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July 22, 2024 34 mins

On the Early Edition with Ryan Bridge Full Show Podcast for Tuesday 23rd of July, Joe Biden is no longer seeking re-election and has endorsed Vice President Kamala Harris for the top job. U.S. election analyst Henry Olsen joins Ryan from the States to provide his thoughts. 

Health NZ's board has been scrapped by the Government, replaced by a commissioner for the next year. Ryan speaks to the Residents Doctors Association. 

A lifeline for the Interislander? A new report has found the 3 ships can run up until 2029, longer than expected. But the Maritime Union aren't happy with the results. 

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
The issues, the interviews and the inside. Ryan Bridge new
for twenty twenty four on the early edition with Smith City,
New Zealand's furniture bands and a play at store.

Speaker 2 (00:14):
News Talk said, be good morning, New Zealand. It is
six half to five. I'm Ryan Bridge. This his early
edition on Newstalk. Sa'd be great to have your company
this Tuesday morning. Lots to get through today. We're looking
at Shane Ritti. He's gone full Trump on Health New
Zealand's board. You're fired, he told them yesterday. Actually most
of those board members had either quit or we leaving anyway. However,

(00:36):
the commission is going to be in place. Will it
solve our problems? We will talk to the union at
five point thirty this morning. Kamala Harris is I reckon
she's got this sewn up. Too many Democrats now have
come out leading Democrats have come out in support of her.
So can she beat Trump? That's the question. The Washington
Post columnist Henry Olsen is with us just before six
this morning. Plus this new report that reckons the ferry

(00:59):
that ground, this is the out of Teddy just a
few weeks ago, is in good condition. Really, we speak
to the Union on that just before five point thirty
right now seven after.

Speaker 1 (01:10):
The agenda.

Speaker 2 (01:11):
It is Tuesday, the twenty third of July. US Vice
President Karmala Harris has spoken publicly for the first time
since President Joe Biden announced he will not seek reelection.

Speaker 3 (01:21):
Joe Biden's legacy of accomplishment over the past three years
is unmatched in modern history. In one term, he has
already surpassed the legacy of most presidents have served two terms.

Speaker 2 (01:34):
Well, big call there, anyway. She didn't say much else
other than I love Joe Biden, which is I guess
it was a pre arranged event. So she's been endorsed
by many of the leading Democrats, including Biden. She's seeking
the nomination. However, the process which they will follow to
get her to that point we still don't quite know.
The National convention being held next month in Chicago. US

(01:55):
Secret Service Director Kimberly Cheatle has testified in front of
the House Oversight Committee following that sassination attempt of Donald Trump.
The Service has been widely criticized for not having snipers
on the roof where the gunman, Thomas Matthew Crooks shot
the former president from.

Speaker 4 (02:09):
The assassination attempt of former President Donald Trump on July
thirteenth is the most significant operational failure of the Secret
Service in decades.

Speaker 2 (02:18):
You can say that again. She was confronted by Republicans
at the RNC last week and previously blamed local police
for not securing the rooftop. Back here. This is some amazing,
fantastic news out of New Zealand. Groundbreaking cancer therapy has
reached a new milestone. The trial of car T cell therapy,
which genetically modifies sales to attack cancer, has reached the

(02:40):
second phase of its trial run out of the Malgan
Institute in Wellington. The treatment has already used overseas for
types of blood cancer. The clinical director says the aversion
is looking safer and effective. He says almost all thirty
trial cancer patients said it's easier on them than chemo.
Nine after five.

Speaker 1 (03:00):
Radio and online on iHeartRadio early edition with Ryan Bridge
and Smith City, New Zealand's furniture, Beds and a playing store.

Speaker 2 (03:08):
News talk said, be so Shane Ready's got rid of
the board. Goodbye, I see you later. I think it
was only one left anyway, And is appointed this professor
Lester Levy, who was the chairman of the board. He's
South African born, he's a doctor, he's on lots of board,
so he seems like he's fit for the job. How
on earth does Health New Zealand spend one hundred and
thirty million dollars over budget a month and the savings

(03:32):
that they're going to be required to look at is
one point four billion dollars fourteen layers apparently of bureaucracy
between a patient and the CEO. So the question here
is will the system crash under a savings drive like that?
Can they actually cope with trying to cut back. We've
got nurses and doctors who are worried about their pay
deals going forward because if the board's gone, the process

(03:56):
might change. There's too much power, too much control from
the government. So we're going to talk to the doctor's
union about that in just a few minutes. Actually, also
just a shout out this morning, a big thank you
to the volunteer firefighters and the first responders. This is
near Lake Pukaki in the South Island. Not only did
they have that double bus crash the other day to

(04:16):
deal with, there was a multiple car crash a few
days before that. Now there's a fire. It's like fire
and ice.

Speaker 5 (04:22):
Here.

Speaker 2 (04:23):
Fifty hectares have been burning since yesterday afternoon. It was
a farmer who was doing a burnoff got out of control.
It's about a kilometer from some nearby properties. They've evacuated
a couple of houses. But imagine they're all volunteers. The
Saint John Ambo guys are volunteers. The firefighters are volunteers.
And they've had now four major callouts in the space

(04:45):
of five days. So thank you for doing all the
hard work that you are doing. And hopefully that fire
will be contained soon if it wasn't overnight already eleven
after five. Now on News Talk ZB coming up next,
we are looking at Health New Zealand. Will this commissioner
be the saving grace?

Speaker 1 (05:02):
Ryan Bridge New for twenty twenty four on early edition
with Smith City, New Zealand's Furniture Beds and a playing
store News doalg Sidby.

Speaker 6 (05:12):
Is it a coup against Joe Biden?

Speaker 2 (05:14):
A sort of yeah, I think it is. I mean, look,
there's a social process, the twenty fifth Amendment.

Speaker 7 (05:19):
If Joe Biden can't run for president, he can't serve
as president.

Speaker 2 (05:23):
It's jd Vance alongside Trump, appearing on Fox News Jesse
Waters Show yesterday saying that basically, it's a coup what
the Democrats have done to Joe Biden. It's a coup.
This is the line. They're going to be running. Fifty
million dollars. That's how much Carmena Harris has managed to
raise so far in just a couple of days for
the Democratic ticket, which she will likely be the head

(05:43):
of I presume. Anyway, We're going to Henry Olsen from
the Washington Post just before six this morning. Right now,
fourteen after five, Ryan Bridge Health, New Zealand's border is
being replaced by a new commissioner, Professor Lester Levy, who
was recently appointed the Chair of Health New Zealand, will
take charge of the organization for a twelve month term.
Health Minister Shane Retti has made the move following what

(06:03):
he called serious concerns around oversight, overspend and a significant
deterioration in the financial outlook. In other words, financially, it's
up the creek. Debrah Powell is the New Zealand Resident
Doctors Association National Secretary and she's with me now. Deborah.
Good morning, Debra. Good to have you on the show.
First of all, your reaction to what the minister announced yesterday.

Speaker 4 (06:28):
Oh, it's a sad day in the house. I have
to say, whenever we get a board replaced by the
autographic system that is a commissioner, it's always.

Speaker 8 (06:37):
A bad day.

Speaker 4 (06:38):
It's also a bad day because the sole focus is
funding and money and that it's important. I'm not saying
it's not, but it shouldn't be the sole focus. We
should be focused on our workforce, which Minister Retti did
say would be the priority, and we should be focusing

(06:58):
on investing in both works course and our infrastructure to
turn us around. So no, it wasn't a good announcement
in my grade.

Speaker 2 (07:06):
Can you not see where he's coming from? Though, Because
if you're putting in, if you're overspending by one hundred
and thirty million dollars per month, you've got it apparently
an increase in full time equivalent workers, plus you've got
an increase in contractors, but the results are not going
up at the same rate. I mean, something's clearly wrong,
isn't it.

Speaker 4 (07:23):
Isn't it well our fundamental problem and I do see
where he's coming from. In one hand that let me
explain our fundamental problem is that we're underfunded, and it's
not so much mismanagement as underfunding. And quite frankly, I
am sick of successive governments blaming the government before for
the underfunding. We've been underfunded since the last Labor government

(07:46):
and the National government before that, and it's time to
turn that around. The money we get is always in
catch up node these days, we need to get into
an investment phase. Secondly, and look, I'll use a real
live example. We have MRI scanners. These are part of
the radiology group that diagnose and then monitor treatment of
patients their magnetic resonance imaging scanners for the long term,

(08:10):
so we call them mrs. We have mrs interfatile aura
at this very moment lying idle because we don't have
the workforce to run them. So of course, cancer patients
who need diagnosis and monitoring are getting held up. Our
weight lists are growing for surgery inpatients are sitting around
because they need an MR before we can actually release
them to go home. So these things are going on.

(08:34):
Sorry it's a bit long, but we're spending. This government
has said thirty million dollars more to outsource to private
in order to get the staff we need to run
the scanners. We already have one point five million. So yes,
it is about the money. But if you put your
focus on workforce first, in actual fact, you get a
better financial outcome. And that's where they're going wrong.

Speaker 2 (08:57):
Well, well, is that not the point that Shaney this
is made exactly that he is going to be focusing
on the front line to make sure that those services
are there.

Speaker 4 (09:06):
Yeah, but I haven't seen any of it. And what
we're all the signals we're getting is thirty million for outsourcing,
one point five to support competitive rates of pay for
our own staff. No. Right, that's what we're seeing.

Speaker 2 (09:20):
In a word, Deborah, because we are out of time.
Have the reforms is the creation of health in New Zealand?
Has that made the situation better or worse?

Speaker 4 (09:30):
I think it's made it better. Before we had twenty
district health boards competing and that was wasting money. We
were duplicating services. It has been a difficult transformation, there's
no two ways about it. But it's still early days
in such a big change. It's only two years in
and going back into more restructuring, refocusing regionally instead of nationally,

(09:52):
it's just going to be more wasted energy and resources.

Speaker 2 (09:55):
All right, Debra, thank you very much for your time.
Nice to have you on the show. Doctor Debrah Powell,
who's the New Zealand Resident Doctors Association National secretary. Just
gone eighteen minutes after five. Coming up next, some surprise
news about our fleet. This is Kiwi Rail, the fleet
of our sorry, the state of our inter island of fleet.
It's in better condition than previously thought, apparently, though the

(10:18):
union's a bit skeptical. Will talk them next.

Speaker 1 (10:20):
The news you need this morning and the in depth
analysis early edition with Ryan Bridge and Smith City, New
Zealand's furniture beds and a playing store.

Speaker 2 (10:29):
News Talk said be Just gone twenty after five on
News Talks said, be, We're going to get to this
teenager who robbed it was in an armed robbery he
was involved with and gets a sixty five percent discount
on his sentence. That's better than a Brisco's sale, more
off that a Brisco's sale. Will talk about that in
just a few moments right now. Though, twenty one after five,
maritime experts have found the aging inter Island of fleet

(10:50):
is in better condition than previously thought. The report found
no systemic issues are preventing their ferries from running until
twenty twenty nine, but it will cost an extra seven
million dollars each year in maintenance, bringing the total to
thirty six million annually. The Maritime Union is cautious of
the findings, pointing to several recent failures with the ships.
Cal Finlay Is the Maritime Union from the Maritime Union

(11:12):
joins me, now, good morning, good to have you on
the show. Do you are you not buying this report.

Speaker 8 (11:19):
Right?

Speaker 5 (11:20):
And we accept the report, but always saying as with caution.
You know that these aging vessels come with problems and
they're still not being addressed by the government and what
they're going to do and replacing them, because they need
to be replacing them. There's no getting away from that, mate.

Speaker 2 (11:38):
Do you think they can carry on to twenty twenty nine?

Speaker 5 (11:41):
Though, well, that's not ideal, but I guess Jimmy, rawl
have been put on impossible position where they need to
carry on and as you pointed out, they're spending all
this extra money on the maintenance just to keep them
going and on a daily basis, which is which is

(12:02):
not ideal for anyone.

Speaker 2 (12:04):
The report says the Kayatacky is in good to fear
condition in general. The chato here is in good to
fear condition in general. The aditiary, the one that grounded recently,
is in good condition in general. Do you agree with
the assessments.

Speaker 5 (12:19):
Well, you have to get you know, they say they've
got the top experts, and you have to believe in
in their assessment. But what I would say is that,
you know, Crewe welfare has to be a priority here,
and I think I think with the given history, they
need to have a very very clear, well fought out

(12:40):
rescue plan if something does decide to go go wrong.

Speaker 2 (12:46):
What do you think something something could go wrong? I mean,
obviously it's a rest because especially when you've got aging,
aging vessels.

Speaker 5 (12:53):
Yeah, yeah, definitely. I just I'd just rather be prepared
than the old, you know story of the implants at
the bottom of the close sort of scenario.

Speaker 2 (13:02):
That button that was inadvertently pressed on the other teddy.
I mean, does that not show that perhaps it is
human failure there rather than vessel failure.

Speaker 5 (13:12):
Look, I think we need to text their back mate
and just really wait for the report because obviously that's
really really serious. And I've just sort of done have
a poor, poor fuel on the fire. I'm going to
wait for the report to make any comments on that, mate.

Speaker 2 (13:28):
No, that's fine. I understand and appreciate it. Carl, thank
you very much for your time this morning. Really appreciate it.
Cal Finlay is the Maritime Union of New Zealand National Secretary.
It is twenty three after five. Interestingly, in this report
it talks about the hull fatigue. The fatigue age of
the inter islander fleets steel hulls was less than a

(13:49):
quarter of the actual age of the ships, meaning they're
in really good condition. Why well, the fairies don't sail
in really heavy seas to avoid discomfort to passengers and livestock.
This has reduced each vessels exposure to extreme waves that
could have accelerated hull fatigue. So they're very young for
their age, almost like they've had a shot of botox
or something. Underneath. They're in good condition underneath, but it's

(14:11):
the mechanical side of it that seems to be failing.
Twenty four after five, back in a second.

Speaker 1 (14:15):
Goode separating the fact from the fiction. Kad's filling edition
with Smith City, New Zealand's furniture Beds and Appliant store News.

Speaker 2 (14:24):
Dog ZB twenty six after five, the row over road
cones is getting so piping hot that somebody might soon
blow a gasket. And the Herald this morning, the boss
of traffic management firm Traffics has laid into the Transport Minister,
saying he and Wayne Brown don't understand how the traffic
industry works. He says they don't charge per road cone

(14:44):
for work, but rather per worker and truck. He says
the public is abusing his staff on site because of
misinformation that's been spread. The problem here is that we
had this independent report and we spoke about this yesterday
from Ey and it was pretty damning. It basically said
that the raw as the current rules incentivize contractors like
Traffics to cause maximum disruption in order to maximize profits.

(15:08):
And NZTA looked at eight hundred maintenance work science this
is on the highway network. One hundred and forty five
of them were not needed. Doesn't that make you blood
boil Auckland Council alone apparently spending one hundred and forty
five million a year on road cones and temporary traffic management.
There was a contractor this is around the corner from
my place, quiet residential suburban street. There was a contract

(15:30):
to digging a hole on the side of the road.
Not a big hole, just a small hole. I could
not believe that they closed the road down. There was
down to one lane with stop ghost signs. This is
the quietest street in the neighborhood. I just thought it
was madness. I would never say anything to the workers, obviously,
because it's not their fault, but clearly, after the EY
report and the message from MZTA, something needs to be

(15:51):
fixed and fast. Wayne Brown wants the power to set
fees and charge penalties if work drags on or wasn't
needed in the first place, and I say give it
to him. Bridge lots to come on the program. Still,
We're going to talk to the Washington Post columnist Henry Olsen.
He'll be on the show just before six this morning.
Because it looks like Karmala Harris has got this sewn

(16:12):
up in terms of the Democratic nomination for president. It
looks like she's got it in the back because there's
too many have come out and supported her already, though
interestingly Nancy Pelosi and Barack Obama haven't endorsed her yet,
despite a flurry of others, including Biden, himself supporting her.
So what is holding up Pelosi and Obama, Because obviously

(16:36):
they're very, very influential figures in the party. What's holding
them up? Are they waiting until this sort of faux
process within the Democrat Democratic Party takes place before they
endorse Karmala Harris or do they actually want to support
another candidate. You would have to say, if you are
wanting to challenge Kamala Harris, given that Biden has indoors to,

(17:00):
given that so many others in the party have endorsed to,
you're on hiding to nothing. So the only reason you
would you would actually challenge Harris is because you don't
have much name recognition and you want to get your
name out there in the public spotlight. I would have
thought we'll get Henry Olsen's view on that just before
six this morning. Right now it is twenty nine after five.
News is next right here on news Talk.

Speaker 1 (17:22):
Sibb the first word on the News of the Day

(17:46):
early edition with Ryan Bridge and Smith City, New Zealand's
Furniture Beds and a playing Store. News Talk Sibby.

Speaker 2 (17:54):
Have a double shadowed wish there's a party down. Tell
everybody at budet good morning. It is twenty four away
from six year on news Talk, said b I'm Ryan Bridge.
Great to have your company. Lots of your feedback coming.
We'll get to in a second, but first in some
developing news for you this morning, Nancy Pelosi has just

(18:16):
issued a statement endorsing Vice President Krmla Harris to run
as the Democratic nominee for president. We were ironically just
speaking about this before the break, before this news happened,
and I was saying, why hasn't she She's like the
grandmother of the Democratic Party, not just because she's very old.
In fact, I think she's eighty four. She's ancient, but
she's still going strong anyway. She has a lot of

(18:37):
influence in that party, and she has come up with
a statement today. It is with immense pride and limitless
optimism for our country's future that I endorse Vice President
Karmala Harris for President of the United States. She says,
my enthusiastic support for Karmla Harris for president is official, personal,
and political. She goes on to talk about the fact,
you know how Karmala has been instrumental in the fight

(19:01):
on abortion and reproductive rights. She says, we must unify
and charge Ford to resoundingly defeat Donald Trump and enthusiastically
elect Karmala Harris onward to victory. So that you go.
Nancy Pelosiho has endorsed Carmla Harris. Lots of you aren't
buying this whole Karmela thing, though Harris talks and riddles.
The Democratic Party is about to face its biggest loss

(19:22):
in history. Ryan, I don't think Carmla Harris could beat
herself out of a paper bag, let alone Trump. That's
from Brian nineteen ninety two, the number to text twenty
two minutes away from six Brian b Locklin winings with
us this morning with news from Duned and actually Wonica
the successful of Warbirds over Wonka. Yeah so that yes.

Speaker 9 (19:43):
Show roared back to life this season, generating more than
forty million dollars for the local economy and more than
sixty thousand people attended three days, with a forty five
percent of first time is actually to the show, and
according to its economic Assessment report, ninety eight percent of
the visitors were satisfied with the event, and board chair
Paul Moody says they're already planning for a better show
in twenty twenty six. He says, the pilots and the

(20:04):
aircraft owners love this year's event and they're enthusiastic to
come back again.

Speaker 2 (20:08):
Brilliant. I actually looked at that and thought, why haven't
I been there? So I will go next time.

Speaker 9 (20:12):
Definitely recommend it to also. Weather today so it's eight
degrees at the moment with a high of twelve today
with fine spells increasing the southwest.

Speaker 2 (20:20):
Brilliant, Thanks Lachlin Blake. Benny is in christ Church for
US this morning that reports on the Orana Wildlife Park
the conditions they are expected back by tomorrow? Are they? Indeed?

Speaker 10 (20:31):
So?

Speaker 11 (20:31):
As we know, more than twenty current and former staff
have detailed multiple animal deaths to one US, some of
which went unreported.

Speaker 6 (20:38):
Now.

Speaker 11 (20:39):
MPI staff were on site yesterday to undertake a rapid
assessment of the conditions. Director of Compliance Response Glenn Burrell
says the zoo was meeting requirements in December with appropriate
staffing and no animal welfare issues identified, although he confirms
there's one active investigation into an incident involving an antelope.

Speaker 2 (20:59):
All Right, Blake. The weather today for christ Judge.

Speaker 11 (21:01):
A cloudy day with some fresh south Westerly ones which
ais this afternoon.

Speaker 2 (21:05):
H I have eleven brilliant thank you and Max toll
is in Wellington for us a possible sad outcome and
that search for a Wellington woman.

Speaker 6 (21:13):
Max, Yeah, this is a story our newsroom broke late
last night. The mother of missing carpety woman Brianna murray
Way has posted on Facebook suggesting her body may have
been found or that she may be confirmed dead. And
murray Way was twenty two when she vanished from Tehdre
Beach in twenty twenty two. Picked up before her disappearance

(21:33):
by a male friend from Wellington, they traveled to Palmerston North,
where they stayed till Saturday night. Police previously interviewing two
men she was with that night but just ending up
with more questions than answers.

Speaker 2 (21:44):
Seemingly.

Speaker 6 (21:45):
On Facebook last night, her mum Jasmine posting as Brianna's mama,
I'd like to be the first to address the nation
with some news of our beloved girl. It was not
the outcome we were hoping for, but we still hold
on to hope that we have closure and the fully justice.
So we're following up to get more detail from police
and they are not yet to comment publicly.

Speaker 2 (22:05):
All right weather today, max sure.

Speaker 6 (22:07):
Party, cloudy, strong, southerly's a high of eleventh central, brilliant.

Speaker 2 (22:11):
Thank you, and Neva is an Auckland this morning? Good morning, No,
good morning? How are we?

Speaker 10 (22:15):
I'm good?

Speaker 2 (22:16):
What are you looking for?

Speaker 10 (22:16):
You're faffing about?

Speaker 2 (22:17):
I know you've lost your paper? I've lost I've lost
a bit of paper. Oh better, I need for my
next interview.

Speaker 10 (22:23):
Oh my gosh, go off, you go, you go get
it and I will take over. What do we do
in a time check? I'm going to tell you about
this Amitus Sparky's work which nearly set Auckland's homerlights. So
what we know is that this was one of five
cases involving Emitas Sparky's doing dangerous work that's landed before
the courts. This has happened in the past six months.

(22:44):
So this has prompted MB to warn homeowners to ensure
that you know, like they're soliciting the services of licensed electricians,
make sure you're doing that, and a reminder of the
dangers of allowing unskilled and untrained people to do electrical work.
Because Rapeesh Kumar, now he was fined, because he was
convicted of this negligent work on electrical installation. Now this

(23:06):
was he was supposed to install. He was hired to
install and connect to hot water cylinder. Then several months later,
apparently the homeowner noticed a burning smell and called the
fire brigade. So you know, some of this happens. So
you've just got to make.

Speaker 2 (23:18):
Sure it's tempting though, isn't it, because it's so expensive.
Well exactly, so you go, well, I could just put
that wire in there myself.

Speaker 10 (23:25):
Oh I say that all the time. I'm not even qualified.

Speaker 2 (23:29):
For goodness sake, before you know it, your you know
your house has burned to the ground. Correct, So don't
use that at home. People don't take that advice to have.
Auckland's weather today never.

Speaker 10 (23:37):
Occasional showers clearing this afternoon, our high fifteen brilliantly, did
you find you a piece of paper?

Speaker 2 (23:42):
I've found one? People, could I eighteen minutes away from
six o'clock, donnor to our Australia correspondent is with us
next plus before the top of the hour. Henry Olsen,
who's a US election analyst but also a columnist for
The Washington Post. His take on whether Karmla Harris can
eat Trump. Sure, she has the endorsement of many now,

(24:03):
including Nancy Pelosi for the Democratic nomination, but taking the
fight to Trump will be a completely different challenge. So
can she do it? Is she up to it? That?
Just before six, just go on quarter to six here
on news Talk said be very quickly this service station
Robert underdou Ruben. You can read the story in the
Herald this morning. He's got a sixty five percent discount

(24:23):
at sentencing after he was taken part was involved with
an armed robbery of a service station. I mean, sixty
five percent off is about as good as a Brisco
sale if you ask me. So what is it actually for?
Twenty five percent was for his early guilty plead, twenty
percent was because he's young, and twenty percent was because
of a Section twenty seven report which detailed his upbringing.

(24:46):
The sentence could have been jail time years of jail time. Instead,
he's got no reparation payments because he doesn't have a job,
and he's walked away with four months home detention to
serve in a residential facility. So go figure. It's just
gone on quarter to six.

Speaker 1 (25:01):
International Correspondence with ends and eye insurance Peace of Mind
for New Zealand business John had.

Speaker 2 (25:08):
Managed in Australia for US. This morning Cameber police approbing
two separate targeted attacks. What's this about.

Speaker 12 (25:15):
Yes, they're investigating after two men were allegedly lured to
locations via dating apps and then assaulted. Now, both victims
were reportedly tricked into meeting up after communicating with fake
user profiles. Obviously they didn't know at the time they
were fake on a dating app. Then they were beaten

(25:35):
by a group of men. Now we know that the
investigations are looking into whether the incidents are linked since
they were almost identical. One of the victims attacked by
four men outside of Canberra home and then he was robbed.
He did end up in hospital. The second victim attacked
when after matching on an app, he was lured to
an abandoned home and assaulted by a group of seven
or eight men. And at that time there were some

(25:58):
homophobic slurs used in during that attack, so it does
seem targeted and premeditated. Now police have also urged people
if they're meeting up with anyone that they've met on
an app, they must and should really consider meeting in
a public place.

Speaker 2 (26:14):
At the very least, we've had a similar thing here
in christ Church, a similar case or a couple of cases
just like that. Donna. Let's talk about the forecast costs
of that tic breakdown we had the front, yes.

Speaker 12 (26:26):
That crowdstrikeer outage that we're all still reeling from. Well,
it's the cost of it is still being fully assessed
here in Australia. It's tipped to leave a damage bill
of almost a billion by some, but then others are
saying that it could reach or run into the billions.
We've heard from government leaders, business leaders and they say
the impact of the outage could be felt for weeks
to come. Now we know what will cause the the outage,

(26:49):
but you know, absolute chaos for millions of Aussies. And
the Home Affairs Minister Claire O'Neil has spoken and said well,
some of these issues, these fallout issues could actually still
be a problem for businesses for at least another two
weeks possibly, And we also heard from the Austrain Industry
Group who says those glitches well could cost us billions,

(27:13):
multiple billions of dollars and at this stage is still
unclear if businesses will be seeking compensation. But we have
heard the CrowdStrike. As you may have already heard as well.
He is said to be preparing for an absolute onslaught
of possible legal action after what happened on Friday.

Speaker 2 (27:29):
Dona, thank you very much for your time. Donnad tomayow
with us from Australia this morning. It is twelve minutes
away from.

Speaker 1 (27:34):
Six Bryan Bridge.

Speaker 2 (27:36):
The fairy godmother you could call her of the Democratic Party,
Nancy Pelosi has this morning thrown her support behind Karmala Harris.
Joe Biden is no longer seeking reelection to be president
of the United States. He's endorsed, along with Nancy Pelosi
in a whole raft of others. Now, Karmala Harris to
be the nominee for the Democrats for president in the

(27:58):
election in November. She says, Kamala Harris, that is, she
wants to earn and win the nomination. So what is
the process and is it who's basically in the bag? Well,
Henry Olsen is with us this morning. He's a US
election analyst and columnist for the Washington Post. Henry, thank
you very much for being with us. Is this basically
thank you for having me? Is this basically all sewn
up for Kamala Harris.

Speaker 8 (28:19):
Now it probably is, and it'll be formally open that
none of the delegates to the National Convention who make
the selection are legally bound to vote for her. But
you can't beat someone with no one and right now,
every single leading national figure who credibly could challenge her
has endorsed her, So it's difficult to see where somebody

(28:42):
gains traction in order to defeat her, even though the
process will be formally open to anyone who wants to
do them.

Speaker 2 (28:49):
It would be political suicide for any serious contender to
throw the hat in the ring, given how many have
come out support and support of her.

Speaker 8 (28:56):
Now that's why they're all doing And I'm sure many
of them privately think that she's not a strong candidate,
many of them privately hunger for the job, but they
all know that if you're going to kill the king,
you have to kill the king. And it's extremely hard
to take out a sitting vice president with the sitting
president's endorsement, who's also got hundreds of millions of dollars

(29:20):
behind her that wouldn't necessarily be transferable to someone who
beat her. Everyone seems to be choosing discretion as the
better part of value in this case.

Speaker 2 (29:28):
Who does she need on the ticket with her? Do
you pick a swing state senator or a governor like
a Josh Shapiro from Pennsylvania.

Speaker 8 (29:37):
That is the common wisdom right now is that she
because she is a woman of color, that she will
put a white male on the ticket. There's never been
an American presidential ticket without a white male on it.
People are looking at Josh Shapiro, the governor of Pennsylvania.
Gretchen Whitmer, the governor of Michigan. Although she's a female,

(29:59):
she is white, took herself out of the running. Today.
A lot of people are looking at Senator Mark Kelly
of Arizona, who was an astronaut before he became a senator,
and whose wife, Gaddy Gibbs, was a popular congresswoman who
was shot in the head and permanently brain damage as
a results in assassination attempt thirteen years ago. Some people

(30:20):
think that between Arizona being a swing state, his biography,
and his family history, that he could add a lot
to the ticket.

Speaker 2 (30:26):
How does trouble? How is Trump reacting and can he
can she beat him?

Speaker 8 (30:33):
Trump is reacting as you might expect Trump to react,
which is to be sharp negative and drawing contrast. There's
already an add up from the Trump superpack that alleges
that she covered up Biden's infirmities and ties her to
the administration. Can she beat him? Yes, but it's hampered

(30:56):
by two things. First of all, she's as unpopular as
Biden was, and so she starts behind in the poll. Secondly,
she's part of the administration. She's not an eighty one
year old man with regrettable but real infirmities. She is
somebody who has an identity of being a follower and

(31:16):
an identity of being involved in a very unpopular administration.
Her challenge is to distinguish herself from the administration, make
an image for herself as a leader, while not running
away from the time that she has spent as Joe
Biden's oil number two. It's a very thin line that
she has to.

Speaker 2 (31:36):
Walk, certainly, as Henry, thanks for your time in your
analysis this morning. That's the US election analyst. Henry Olsen
is also a columnist for The Washington Post, saying there
that basically Karmen Horse is as unpopular as Biden was,
and she still has to carry his baggage through this campaign.
It is eight minutes away from six. Mic Hossing next,

(31:56):
Get ahead of the headlines.

Speaker 1 (31:58):
Ryan Bridge twenty twenty four, on early edition with Smith City,
New Zealand's furniture bids and a play at store.

Speaker 2 (32:05):
News Talk said be five to six here on news
Talk said be. The Democratic Congressional leadership is apparently going
to endorse Carmen Harris for the nominee to be president today.
Nancy Pelosi has already done that too. Mike Hosting is
here and he starts after sixth this morning, So it's hers, isn't.

Speaker 7 (32:22):
It, one assume? So I suppose they wait for Obama,
who said yesterday they want some sort of open contest,
but that seems to have overtaken them, so I guess
it is.

Speaker 2 (32:32):
So we'll deal with all of that this wing.

Speaker 7 (32:34):
Mark Gilbert, by the way, who you might remember he
was here in twenty fifteen to seventeen as the US ambassador,
as nominated by Obama and an ex baseball player of course. Anyway,
he's on the program after right. He knows both Harris
and Biden extremely well. They've been friends for twenty years. Anyway,
I'm listening to your unionists this morning, right.

Speaker 2 (32:51):
Yeah, Well which one we had? Actually two?

Speaker 7 (32:53):
Well that's too many unionists talk to and so we
too many unionists on the program, the health one, Deborah.
So all they ever say is we need more money,
and it's simply not true. Frustrating it's thirty billion dollars
and that you should have watched lux and yesterday was
being on about it for about forty minutes post cab

(33:14):
thirty billion dollars. Do you know how much? That's six
thousand dollars for every man, woman and child each and
every year in this country. So I didn't go to
hospital last year, so that's six thousand dollars has concer
It's a tremendous amount of mate. So the problem is
not we need more money. The problem is clearly when
you've got twelve layers.

Speaker 2 (33:32):
Fourteen I think was it fourteen?

Speaker 7 (33:35):
Let's just say there's a tremendous number of layers and
they've worked out that six And I even thought sex
was a bit over the top personally. I mean, you
think about where you sit in this company and how
close you are to the CEO. I mean, obviously very important,
but so there's not many you know, there's not many
between you and the boss. But you know six is
plenty twelve or fourteen?

Speaker 2 (33:53):
I mean you're serious.

Speaker 7 (33:55):
I mean, how does that work? So you can't just
throw money at itise precisely. So anyway, we'll talk to
we'll talk to a couple of people about that, including
the Prime Minister who's with us up to seven.

Speaker 2 (34:04):
Thirty again, Mike Hoskin with you in just a few moments.
It is three to six. I'll see tomorrow.

Speaker 1 (34:18):
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