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On the Early Edition with Ryan Bridge Full Show Podcast for Monday the 29th of July. The Government's serious young offender bootcamp trial starts today - Ryan speaks to Labour about their thoughts on the pilot programme. 

Darleen Tana has been asked again by her former party to resign from parliament. What are the next steps for the party? 

It's all on in Paris - Kiwi athletes could win their first medals this morning. Andrew Alderson takes us through the latest from the Olympics. 

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
The issues, the interviews and the inside. Ryan Bridge new
for twenty twenty four on the early edition with Smith City,
New Zealand's furniture Bents and a play at store.

Speaker 2 (00:14):
News Talks. B.

Speaker 3 (00:16):
Good morning, it is six after five. Welcome to your
Monday morning. Great to have your company here on news Talk,
said B. I'm Ryan Bridge today on the program why
we taxpayers are basically at the mercy of the Greens
drawn out process to Walker Jump Darley and Tanna Bridget
Morton on that soon boot camps. It is day one
for boot camps and Palmerston North today Labors, responding just

(00:39):
before six plus is Trump rarely suggesting that he'll fix
the next election in the United States? And the who
done it? Of the Olympics that train attack on Friday?
Why has nobody claimed responsibility? We'll look at that all
in the next hour. It's seven after five the Agenda, Monday,
the twenty ninth of July. Luca Jones has finished eighth

(01:02):
in the women's K one canoe slalom final. She started strong.

Speaker 2 (01:08):
Luca Jones of.

Speaker 4 (01:09):
New Zealand is underway negotiating the challenging Whitewater rapids.

Speaker 2 (01:13):
So far, the first Redgate is approaching.

Speaker 5 (01:16):
They have to come upstream and she successfully negotiates that.

Speaker 2 (01:19):
A great start so far and.

Speaker 3 (01:21):
Great start unfortunately finished eighth. Australia's Jessica Fox placed first,
winning the gold medal, and later this morning Lewis Clairbert
will compete in the men's four hundred meter medley final
that's from six thirty this morning. There affairs that a
rock rocket attack rather in the Israeli occupied Golan Heights
could spark in all out war in the region. Twelve

(01:43):
children were killed in the strike, with Israel voaring Lebanese
militant group Hezbela will pay the price for the attack,
which Hesbela denies they are behind. The Israeli Defense Force
say they will retaliate. We will act to restore full
security now northern border for all of the citizens of

(02:04):
the Seat of Israel. They've already struck a number of
his Bullo targets and Lebanon, including a stockpile of weapons,
and Benjamin Netanya, who has cut short his trip to
Washington to deal with the situation. More than sixty thousand
Kiwis have applied for Australian citizenship in the first year
of a Visa Pathway. New Zealanders who hold a special
category visa and have been living in Australia for more

(02:26):
than four years can apply to become a citizen without
needing a permanent visa. Since the pathway was introduced last July,
more than twenty three thousand Kiwis have received Australian citizenship
and another thirty thousand have passed the citizenship test. It
is nine after five.

Speaker 1 (02:42):
The News you Need this morning and the in depth
analysis early edition with Ryan Bridge and Smith City, New
Zealand's furniture beds and a playing store.

Speaker 2 (02:51):
News Talk said, be.

Speaker 3 (02:52):
Great to have your company. We'll deal with Darling and
Tana first. So the Greens had a meeting at the
weekend and they decided to basically send a lead to
Darling Tana to say we think we want to walker
jump you. Is the gist of it, and this is
the first step in the process. And then Darling Tanner
has twenty one days to respond, and then they've called

(03:13):
a special meeting for September where they'll vote on whether
they should do it or not. I mean, what a
mad process and we're all basically at the mercy of it.
They can decide how long they want to take before
they finally get the cahunits to Walker Jumper. And in
the meantime, we're paying this what one hundred and seventy
thousand dollars salary for her to sit there, and it's

(03:35):
already what are we almost August? What has she done?
What is she doing? Why are we paying her salary?
I think it's madness that this is allowed to continue
and will continue. I mean, by the time they actually
get rid of her, if indeed that happens, it'll be Christmas,
and that's a year and a bit of nothing. So anyway,

(03:56):
Darling Tana also interesting about her her pronouns.

Speaker 6 (04:01):
My pronouns are they them?

Speaker 2 (04:04):
I never walk away?

Speaker 3 (04:06):
So she said they them? And I thought, because I
like to get this right, if somebody has a they
them pronoun, I like to do that. I mean, if
it makes somebody happy, what do I care? But actually
she's said she's clarified to our newsroom. I've checked on
this this morning, because some people like stuff is saying
they them, I think, and then others are saying she her,

(04:27):
So it's very confusing. Anyway, Apparently she has clarified saying
she doesn't mind how she's referred to in the media.
She said, my pronouns are not necessarily about gender. This
clarifies things very quickly. This is Donald Trump at the
weekend talking to the Believer's Summit in Florida. It's a

(04:49):
Christian gathering about this election and the next one.

Speaker 6 (04:52):
Listen, you won't have to do it anymore for more years.
You know what, It'll be fixed. It'll be fine. You
won't have to vote.

Speaker 7 (04:59):
It him one of my beautiful Christians. I love you Christians.
I'm a Christian. I love you.

Speaker 2 (05:04):
Get out.

Speaker 7 (05:05):
You gotta get out and vote. In four years, you
don't have to vote again. We'll have it fixtional good.
You're not gonna have to.

Speaker 3 (05:13):
Brilliant. I was thinking of the weekend actually do with
the US elections. It's fun to listen to Trump sound like,
you know, he's going off the deep end. But really,
as Kiwi's we want Karmala Harris to win, don't we.
You know, Trump's America first sort of ethos, the nationalist ethos,
far more instability and unpredictable global events. You know, you

(05:36):
think about Ukraine, and then you think about the trade
tariffs and the trade wars, China and Mexico. I mean,
none of this is good for a small trading nation
at the bottom of the world like New Zealand, is
it so? I would have thought that we would be
wanting Karmala Harris to win, do we not? Twelve after
five we're talking boot camps next.

Speaker 1 (05:55):
Get ahead of the headlines, Ryan Bridge, you for twenty
twenty four early edition with Smith City, New Zealand's furniture
beds and a player store news talk z'd.

Speaker 3 (06:05):
Be fourteen after five? Can I identify Darling Tanner as
a waste of space? Yes? I think I can. Right.
It is the story that just isn't going away for
the Greens. Former Green MP Darling Tarner still hasn't left
his seat in Parliament despite no longer being a member
of the Green Party. She's now an independent MP, and
she has been asked again by her former party colleagues

(06:26):
to resign. Chloe Swarbrook says the party's delegates will hold
a vote in September, yes, all the way in September,
on whether to invoke the waker jumping legislation and kick
her out of Parliament. Joining me now is political commentator
Bridget Morton. Bridget why is it fear on us that
we are all at the mercy of what seems a

(06:47):
very drawn out process from the Greens.

Speaker 8 (06:51):
Yeah, I don't think it is necessarily fear or the taxpayer.
As you say, I don't think Darling Tarner is providing
any value at the moment in her position. The problem
for the Greens tho, particularly the Greens leadership, is that
it's clear that the party is not necessarily with them,
and so they can't actually make that decision unilaterally without

(07:11):
quite a lot of consequence.

Speaker 3 (07:14):
Yeah, and now you're seeing there was reporting and stuff
about the Greens Pacifica one of the three most three
of the most senior Pacifica leaders and the Greens apparently
resigning from the party in protest at the way that
they've treated Darling Tana.

Speaker 1 (07:30):
Yeah.

Speaker 8 (07:31):
And on top of they also the treatment of Elizabeth
Kitty Kenny last year and some treatment they say following
the passing of the Fesso Collins. So I think there's
definitely a disconnect, but I think it goes further. There
was also reports across most media about the fact that
party members weren't clear in what they wanted to do,
that there was still a lot of opposition to Woker

(07:52):
jumping legislation in principle, do we.

Speaker 3 (07:55):
Need to change the Waker jumping legislation to me to
make it easier on Artist to get rid of MPs.

Speaker 8 (08:03):
Well, I think you always want to maintain a balance
that you don't want their belief a party leaders to
completely and utterly, unilaterally have people kicked out of parliament.
But of course the problem we have here is that
there doesn't appear to be anyone who wants to keep
Darling Tana in Parliament except for Tanna herself.

Speaker 3 (08:21):
Except Darling Tana at least she's not alone. She says
that she doesn't walk alone, she's abay them, which is
causing a lot of confusion for people. Bridget, thank you
very much for your time. We appreciate it. Bridget Morton,
the political commentator there on Darling Tana Bryan Bridge. Olympic
security must be a night near this time round. They've

(08:42):
apparently got about forty five thousand police officers on the
beat trying to contain whatever might happen. And on Friday,
those rail lines that were taken out by arsonists have
been restored, so that is good news, but it affected
eight hundred thousand travelers over three days. I mean that's
almost a million people. That is a massive issue for them,

(09:04):
and they still haven't found out who did it? Who
done it? And your you know, so many options. Was it,
you know, a pro Palestinian protest? Was it a pro
Israeli protest? Was that the far right after those election results?
You know? Was it some sort of Gehrty attack? Was
it the Russians? I mean, where it's so many places

(09:27):
you can point your finger, you wouldn't know where to start.
Who do you reckon? Who done it? Nineteen nine two
is the number to text let me know what your thoughts.
I sort of have a suspicion that if it because
it hasn't been claimed by anybody, then it must be Russia,
because Russia is the only one who wouldn't want to
take responsibility. Surely the rest of them would know. It's

(09:47):
eighteen after five.

Speaker 1 (09:49):
On your radio and online on iHeartRadio Early edition with
Ryan Bridge and Smith City New Zealand's Furniture Beds and
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Speaker 2 (09:58):
News Talk, z'd be good morning.

Speaker 3 (10:00):
It is twenty after five year on news Talk said
be lots of text coming, and I mentioned that from
a new Zealand perspective, we would prefer that actually Karmala
Harris was in the White House over Donald Trump, simply
because we're a small trading nation and you know, Trump
is quite nationalists protectionists when it comes to trade and
Tariff's morning, Ryan incorrect. I and many others want Trump

(10:23):
to win. Harris as a traitor to the USA who
will flood the country with illegals and stay in power
at any cost. Ryan Harris is a repeat of Jacinda. No,
thank you, No to Carmela. She's a puppet on a
string and she just wants somebody else will be controlling
those strings, not her. So there you go. Twenty one
minutes after five.

Speaker 9 (10:44):
It sounds like you're received. You come up, it's there.

Speaker 3 (10:46):
I certainly have andrew all listeners with us for sport.
Good morning greetings. How are we doing these forty nine
er sailors in Massaim?

Speaker 6 (10:53):
Yeah?

Speaker 9 (10:53):
I must say, the probably the best of the performers
of the New Zealand team overnight. I think winning a
race their opening race setting standard picked up a third
and then they've had an eighth as well. But you
can drop your worst performance, so they can drop the
eighth for now, depending on how they go with the
rest of the regatta. So that's an excellent effort from

(11:15):
McKenzie and McCarty, so well done to them. Not so
good for the fort nine air effects. Joe la and
Molly Meach last by comparison, so that's a bit of
a contrast anyway.

Speaker 3 (11:27):
But what about early days Lewis Claibert. Is he going
to do it this morning? Cheap as I hope?

Speaker 9 (11:32):
So it's been a long wait for a middle on
a pool for New Zealand nineteen ninety six, deniar Loader.
I was at university at the time. We watched it
in the university hostel up the road at Iraq Hall
and it was quite something. But it seems a long
time ago, twenty eight years.

Speaker 6 (11:48):
Maybe he can.

Speaker 9 (11:49):
But he struggled to some degree in the heat, I
did think. And he finished fourth and it's going to
be a struggle to take out Leon Marshaun with that
French crowd behind him. There's one medal, I would have thought, So, yeah,
he's got a battle.

Speaker 2 (12:03):
On his hands.

Speaker 3 (12:04):
Yeah. And the new Michael Felts they're calling him, aren't they.

Speaker 9 (12:08):
Yeah, he and honestly he was really impressive. Yeah, yeah,
terrific medley swimmer and just yeah, I just think you've
almost Yeah, you just gain some meters or some sort
of slipperiness when you get in the pool with that
sort of crowd. Yeah, behind you.

Speaker 3 (12:23):
The water quality in the river sense, it's.

Speaker 9 (12:26):
Ongoing, right, I mean I think should they have moved
this by now? I mean it's so depending on if
they get rain, then they get problems. So they're kind
of waiting on the weathers to see it. And it's
disruptive for the triathletes and the marathon swimmers for that matter.
So yeah, they couldn't They couldn't train today because of
the rain and the efforet washes it through and it

(12:47):
stirs it all up, et cetera. So one day the
quality's okay, next it's not. It just seems they had
a lot. Yeah, it's not a particularly good element to
the Games. I mean, I mean there's been some great
element so far, but that's that's a bit of.

Speaker 3 (13:01):
A sound across. Yeah, the medal talley Australia, we don't
feature too prominently on that, baking up the numbers at
the moment, but Australia it's not all about the medals, right, Well,
it is Australia's out in front at the moment. Apparently
they are. They've had some six medals for all reckoning. Yeah,

(13:22):
four golds, two silvers. I've got South Korea in there, China,
Japan up there, the US up there too.

Speaker 9 (13:28):
Yeah, where are we the usual suspects? Yeah, maybe maybe
it's maybe it's gonna be a little clear of it,
I hope, so fingers crossed, So yeah, it will be awesome.

Speaker 3 (13:38):
So any medal, whether it's bronze, it would be our
first swimming medal since nineteen ninety six.

Speaker 2 (13:43):
That's right.

Speaker 3 (13:44):
Yeah, we're a country surrounded by water. Shouldn't we be
good at swimming?

Speaker 9 (13:47):
Well, that's what the sailors are doing.

Speaker 2 (13:49):
Well.

Speaker 3 (13:49):
True anyway, true, all right, Andrew Ortison was spot Thanks
so much for your time. Twenty four after five. You're
on news Talk, said.

Speaker 1 (13:54):
B, separating the fact from the fiction spilly edition with
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Speaker 3 (14:05):
Sab twenty six after five News Talk, said B. Is
it just me or does it feel like democracy is
somewhat under threat or at risk? Just reading the international
news headlines day in day out, it feels precarious. Trump
over the weekend, if you missed it, is saying that,
and he's probably joking. You know, you didn't never really

(14:28):
tell with Donald Trump, but suggesting that he might fix
the next election.

Speaker 6 (14:32):
Listen, you won't have to do it anymore four more years,
you know what, It'll be fixed.

Speaker 7 (14:37):
It'll be fine. You won't have to vote anymore. Of
my beautiful Christians. I love you Christians. I'm a Christian.
I love you. Get out. You gotta get out and vote.
In four years, you don't have to vote again. We'll
have it fixed. Shell good. You're not gonna have to vote.

Speaker 3 (14:51):
So there's Trump, and then you've got a barely functioning
Joe Biden and the White House. Are these the shining
beacons of demmocracy we can hold up as our post
to kids. I don't think so. And then there's if
you look apart from the Olympics in France, the election
result there has left them basically in limbo. I mean,
who is actually running the government? You know, the Olympics

(15:15):
is kind of the spectacle, that's a side show, but
really who's running the place. And there's such an extreme
spectrum from that vote that they had you've had Hungary's
Victor Aorbarne at the weekend talking about nationalism. You know
his Pertian's mate. He says, there's a shift in global
power underway. In a few decades or centuries. He reckons,
Asia will be the center of the world. The future

(15:37):
big powers China, India, Pakistan, Indonesia. The West has pushed
Russia towards this block of countries, he reckons. The International
Institute for Democracy and Electoral Assistants says half of the
world's countries are suffering democratic decline. They say things like
flawed elections and curtailed rights of freedom and assembly and speed,

(16:00):
which are reducing the power of democracy across the world.
And this is six consecutive years of declines, they say.
So I don't really know what the conclusion of all
that is, other than I suppose just keep watching the
Olympics and forget about it.

Speaker 2 (16:17):
Rain Bridge twenty.

Speaker 3 (16:18):
Eight minutes after five, speaking of the rowers are doing
really well, looking really good. The men's for the women's
four both straight to the final. That'll be Thursday night
our time, So that'd be a good night to watch.
If you've got Sky or you're listening on Gold sport,
which of course you should be. Emma Twig looking great,
Tom Macintosh, the single scollar's looking great and the men's

(16:41):
double scullers have made it to the semis as well,
so that is very exciting for our rowers. Hopefully a
chance at getting us on that medal table, which would
be lovely, wouldn't it. Ninety two is the number to text.
We've got lots of your feedback coming in on Karmala Harris.
We'll get to that shortly. Also, we're talking to Labor
just before six about boot camps, because it is day

(17:03):
one to day for the boot camps kicking off in
Palmerston North. Labor says there are shambles, we shouldn't be
doing it, but we'll look at their record while in
government too. News is next, Take my.

Speaker 2 (17:21):
Heart, don't backing, Love me too, My.

Speaker 6 (17:28):
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Speaker 2 (17:36):
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Speaker 1 (17:39):
It's early edition with Ryan Bridge and Smith City, New
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Speaker 4 (17:47):
Did your bootstock were against your truck briage?

Speaker 10 (17:51):
Did you put through my digits fun house? There's a
way and I'm not sure you're lasted.

Speaker 3 (18:02):
Thirty four away from six here on news talk to V.
I'm Rhyan Bridge. Good to have your company this morning.
Why do we keep taking out these drug kingpins and
hoping that the war on drugs will finally end? It
just makes things more violent, history tells us. But in
any case, the Americans have arrested al Mayo, who ran
the Cineloa cartel with al Chapo. Now al Mayo has

(18:27):
been taken to a federal court in al Paso. So
you have al Mayo, al Chapo and al Paso. Anyway,
Almeo was arrested after apparently al Chapo's son lured him
onto a plane and said, Oh, we're going to go
check out some airstrips that we can land our drug
planes on. Come on, come on, get on, and then

(18:49):
he gets on and then they go and land in
al Paso. So, yeah, Almeo, al Chapo both in custody
and the States one in al Paso. The thing is,
and there is a sad part to this story, obviously,
and that is the impact that these drugs are having
in the United States. Some frightening numbers when you read
these stories Ventanyl deaths, and this is why they keep

(19:12):
going after these guys eighteen to forty five year olds.
Ventanyl is the leading cause of death in America eighteen
to forty five year olds. More people die from overdoses
in America than firearms incidents and car crashes combined. It's
more than one hundred thousand people a year, the majority

(19:34):
of those ventanyl twenty two away.

Speaker 2 (19:36):
From six Brian Bridge.

Speaker 3 (19:38):
We're going to deneed In this morning. Calum Proctor is
with us. Callum a bit worried about that hospital. The
construction's underway, but will it all be finished?

Speaker 4 (19:49):
Yeah, morning, Ryan will certainly. There's more concerns here after
reports that the new Health and Z Commissioner Less the
Levy says you'll consider downscaling the you toned In hospital
build if required, and so in response, there's been some
fighting words from our mayor Jills Raddick. He says he
expects the Health Minister to keep his promises and build

(20:09):
the current design, adding downsizing would be a false economy.
He says if they do downscale, they can be sure
of an absolute uproar and outrage from people all over
the Otaga region, especially Dunedin. Raddick says they don't want
to protest on this issue again, but the possibility always exists.

Speaker 3 (20:26):
Yeah. I think you've just got to go with it now,
don't you. How's your weather today? Come? Not good?

Speaker 4 (20:31):
Heavy rain and heavy snow warnings for us daneed and
heavy rain this afternoon as easterly has developed the High nine.

Speaker 3 (20:38):
Thank you Blake Benny's in christ Church and a city
councilor in a spot of bother blake. Yes. They say.

Speaker 10 (20:44):
The city has been put in a difficult position following
the government's forestry regulation decision, so it said no for
now to a bid from local Canterbury councils to prevent
plan and replanting on the porthills following this year's six
hundred and fifty he dear Blades. Heath Get Counselor Climate
Change Portfolio leads Sarah Templeton says plantations are getting even

(21:04):
riskier with hotter, drier summers and increased winds. She says
the decision is really disappointing and short sighted, adding the
ability for counsel to deal with this increased risk is
really important. Templeton says they'll have to use other tools
such as working with communities and fens, but Hope's counsel
will continue pushing for this change.

Speaker 3 (21:24):
Blake has your weather today.

Speaker 10 (21:25):
It's going to be a cloudy one with a bit
of light rain both before dawn and this evening a
high thirteen.

Speaker 3 (21:30):
Thank you. Max Toles and Wellington police are cracking down
on street races. Max, I can see you honing around
Courtney Place in a n the San skyline.

Speaker 11 (21:39):
I'm probably the last person on the planet who would
go street racing in my two thousand honder record.

Speaker 3 (21:45):
That's right.

Speaker 11 (21:46):
Police cracking down on illegal cars burnout street racing across
the Hut Valley and pottly Do over the weekend. Multiple arrests,
quite a few fines dished out, cars being seized. Please
say these people try to take over a number of
intersections and roads at night. Police had to move around
quite a bit stopping cars, putting in checkpoints. They do

(22:06):
reckon They frustrated this group which had to end it's
a so called fun quite early in the night. This
has been a problem in particularly parts of up Hut
for some time. Out near Trentham, locals are frustrated. This
keeps them up at night. Hopefully these sorts of thorns
in their side.

Speaker 3 (22:22):
Keep up absolutely weather today.

Speaker 11 (22:24):
Mix cloudy with morning and evening showers. Fourteen the high
Central brilliant.

Speaker 3 (22:29):
Thank you and never ready minds with us in Auckland,
Good morning, good morning.

Speaker 12 (22:33):
Do you have a nice weekend?

Speaker 3 (22:34):
Had a lovely weekend? Thank you and you?

Speaker 11 (22:36):
Yes?

Speaker 12 (22:36):
I did, well, you know I did. I'm feeling I was.
I said to a friend, this is about two weeks ago.
Friend of mine said, hey, let's go walking, you know,
five thirty six am on a Saturday morning. Two weeks ago.
I said, yeah, yeah, I'm in for it, thinking that
he would have forgotten about it, but he remembered, and
so there we were climbing up Mount Eden. I'm sore today.

Speaker 3 (22:56):
It would have been dark at that.

Speaker 12 (22:57):
It was because I would never go by myself.

Speaker 3 (22:59):
He goes, no, you're fine.

Speaker 12 (23:00):
I said, there are criminals out there.

Speaker 3 (23:01):
He said, no, don't worry, nev No, don't go out
on your own Neva. No, it's not a safe city.
It's not.

Speaker 12 (23:06):
No one would dare to come up to me, would they.

Speaker 3 (23:09):
But the economy is bounced back after COVID.

Speaker 12 (23:11):
Yes, the economy, so this is good news. So this
new report is out Tatucky Auckland Unlimited's Economic monitor tracking
the region's five year This is the macro economic performance
from twenty nineteen to twenty twenty three. So this is
found that the economy grew ten percent, matching the national average.
That's got to be great despite having a longer, more

(23:34):
frequent lockdowns you know here in Auckland compared to the
rest of the country during the pandemic. The head of
Economic Transformation this is John Lavery. He says that our city,
the entrepreneurial spirit, played a big part in this. So
what is that while the registered business is two hundred
and twenty five than twenty twenty three, So that's twenty
four thousand more in twenty nineteen. I mean that's got

(23:56):
to be So.

Speaker 3 (23:57):
We're growing here. I think the thing is now. I
mean it's going to walk down Main Street exactly. I
mean not caput, hasn't it?

Speaker 2 (24:03):
No?

Speaker 12 (24:03):
Correct, that's quite right.

Speaker 3 (24:05):
Thank you need our weather today in Auckland.

Speaker 12 (24:07):
Cloudy chance of a shower sixteen is a high.

Speaker 3 (24:09):
Brilliant thank you very much. Eighteen minutes away from six o'clock. Celendion.
Did I not tell you that Celendion would perform at
the Olympics opening ceremony on Friday. I think I may
have suggested that here she is, come on see. French

(24:44):
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from halfway up the Eiffel Tower, seventeen away from six
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Speaker 1 (25:46):
Well international correspondence with ends and eye insurance, peace of
mind for New Zealand business.

Speaker 3 (25:52):
Kevin Gray as a UK and Europe correspondent. He's with
US Live this morning. Good morning, Gavin. Has anyone claimed
responsibility yet for this in France?

Speaker 13 (26:02):
No, not yet, and it has of course been something
that has rocked the early part of the Olympics. It
took place on Friday local time, just before the opening
ceremony of the Olympics. Things are getting back to normal slowly.
They hope to run a full service on Monday tomorrow
at our time, but at the moment one in four

(26:23):
Eurostar trains they're the international services between London and Paris
using a high speed line in Paris, just one in
four of its trains that will not run, so cancelations down,
but still really quite considerable, bearing in mind most of
the trains are absolutely solidly booked up, so that's still
a problem. And the rail company said the main Western

(26:46):
line from Paris was operating, was normal, but three out
of four TGV trains those are the more high speed
trains were running on the Northern line for mill with
no delays expected. But still you know, that's only three
out of four. So rail workers did manage to foil
one attempt to destroy safety equipment on a fourth line,
but three of those high speed lines out of the

(27:08):
capital absolutely paralyzed. They should be all back to normal,
but not the start of the Olympics. They wanted. Nobody's
thee at claim responsibility. Plenty of people pointing the finger
at Russian saboteurs.

Speaker 3 (27:20):
Yeah, because you would think anyone else would climb responsibility.
Russia is the only one with an interest in not
you know what I mean? Yeah, Hey, are you being
softened up for a text and crisis in the Yuka?
Do yourickon?

Speaker 13 (27:33):
I think we might be let me know in twenty
four hours. I'll come back to you, because we are
due to hear from our chancellor, the first female chancellor
in history, Rachel Reeves. She of course part of the
new government here in the UK that started on the
fourth of July. Now, already they've been saying, oh, well,
we were left a much worse situation than we thought.

(27:53):
Things are not as good as we thought economically, and
they had always in the pre election campaigning said that
they would effectively continue on the same economic spending and
taxing as the preceding government. However, if this report out
tomorrow from the Chancellor reveals what we hear, which is

(28:15):
a massive black hole in the economy, then I think
we are going to see tax rises pretty quickly. It
is rumored by some that the black hole in the
economy could be as much as over forty five billion
New Zealand dollars a year, and of course yes they
can cut back on spending, but then they might be
looking at generally Conhaps another one could be inheritance tax.

(28:38):
What you inherit when somebody dies and leaves you their money,
and possibly also capital gains, so that is the selling
of an asset and a tax on the growth. Yeah,
it could be bad news, could.

Speaker 3 (28:50):
Be bad news, could be one of those, or it
could be all of those. Given, thanks so much for
your time and good luck. In Away from six ran Bridge,
Tambody's boot Camp pilot program for serious young offenders starts today.
The twelvemonth military style program will see one to one
mentoring for each teenager with a focus on routine physical

(29:11):
activity and education. Willow jene Prime is Labour's Children's spokesperson
and joins me, now, thank you for being with me
this morning. First of all, this sounds like quite a
good thing, particularly for those serious repeat young offenders.

Speaker 14 (29:26):
No, no, it doesn't sound like a good thing, Ryan,
and that is because what we have here is the
government running a pilot. Essentially, the pilot pilot is an experiment,
and that is despite evidence, experts and people with experience
all saying that military style academies or boot camps do

(29:49):
not work for these young people.

Speaker 3 (29:51):
Karen Shaw says they have learned from past boot camps.
The focus this time will be more on rehabilitation and
re entering the community.

Speaker 14 (30:02):
They say that they have learned, yet they are ignoring evidence,
experts and people with experience who say that the scared
straight and boot camp style programs do not work. And
that was the most recent report on them by Sir
Peter Gluckman in twenty and eighteen. And this just last
week we had the Royal Commission report on Abuse in

(30:24):
staycare and it includes an entire chapter on boot camp
and in there many of the same issues are raised
in that report, and they continue to ignore that and
insist on their tough on crime, punitive rhetoric and approaches
to dealing with these young people.

Speaker 3 (30:42):
Can you see why they might be wanting to try
new innovative things like pilots, given that, according to the
Ministry of Justice, there was a twenty six percent increase
in fourteen to sixteen year olds indergoing serious and persistent offending.

Speaker 14 (31:01):
The issue that we have here is that when the
government came in, they were givent a briefing which showed
that the Circuit Brecket program was having a seventy six
percent success rate. They have decided to cancel the Enhanced
Fast Track program instead in favor of their boot camp pilot,
where there is ample evidence, decades of evidence, recent evidence

(31:22):
from nineteen eighty nine to two thousand and four that
boot camps do not work. Yet they insist on experimenting
once again with young people instead of acknowledging and supporting
those programs that do and can work.

Speaker 3 (31:38):
How would you rate Labour's performance in supporting young people
who might be at risk of offending Given that four
thousand children were living in motels and there was a
two percent increase in material hardship child poverty figures under
your watch.

Speaker 14 (31:54):
These are extremely difficult challenges that we all have and
that we have to face as a society. That is
what came out of the Royal Commission's report. Labor invested
significantly in the Circuit Breaker program, which evidence shows was
having a seventy six percent success rate in working with
our young serious offenders. We invested further into the Enhanced FasTrak.

(32:20):
I was so disappointed when this government canceled that program
in favor of failed experiments of the past, the boot Camp.

Speaker 3 (32:28):
Well o, Jen Prime, Labour's Children's spokesperson, thanks so much
for your time. It is seven away from six.

Speaker 1 (32:36):
Ryan Bridge New for twenty twenty four on early edition
with Smith City, New Zealand's furniture beds and a playing store.

Speaker 2 (32:44):
News Talk zib it is.

Speaker 3 (32:45):
Five to six news Talk, said be Mike Hoskins in
the studio. I was looking at the metal tally because
I know you like keeping a score, Mike, and you
know we haven't won any medals.

Speaker 5 (32:55):
We've won no medals and Australia's doing well though they
are doing very well. But the swimming's on and so
they will do well in swimming, so they will front
load their table and depending on how good they are
in other sports. Speaking sports, I've got to get this
off my chest. If one this morning, Inspa George Russell won.
He drove the race of his life. It was the

(33:16):
most enthralling thing you've ever seen. He called a one
stop strategy on hard tires. He said, don't pit me.
I'm going to go all the way. So his tires
are degrading. He's getting closer and closer to the finish line.
Lewis Hamilton's up his tailpipe, catching him because he's got
newer wheels, and Piastre's coming in third. It's between first
and thirds but less than a second. It was the

(33:37):
most exciting thing. At the end of the race. Russell's
being disqualified, Oh no, because they Mercedes blew it. The
car come in and came in underweight, and so.

Speaker 3 (33:48):
It's the car drama.

Speaker 5 (33:51):
You weigh the car, the car came in underweight. So
he goes to the summer break, distraught, high drama.

Speaker 3 (33:58):
All right, Well, so we'll hear nothing about the olymp
it's from Mike, but everything about the F one. He's
with you in a few minutes.

Speaker 1 (34:04):
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