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Speaker 1 (00:01):
The issues, the interviews and the insight. Ryan Bridge new
for twenty twenty four on an early edition with Smith City,
New Zealand's furniture Bids and a play at store us Dogs.
Speaker 2 (00:15):
It'd be good morning. It is six half to five.
It is August thirteenth. You're with me, Ryan Bridge. Great
to have your company. Lots to get through today, as
there always is, but we will start looking at this
new payment card for beneficiaries. We will take another look
at it just before six, particularly looking at young people
using this card. Also congestion charging for the rest of
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us well in the major cities Auckland's, Wellington, christ Church, Todong.
It could be coming to a place near you, but
where exactly will you drive? I'm so finding it very
hard to concentrate this morning. There is a very distinct
smell of cologne in the studio. I don't know quite
where it's coming from, but we'll get to the bottom
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of that too. Just gone six five the agenda and
it is when stated the thirteenth of August. Evacuations near
Athens as we go to air International helpers on the
way for Greece where wildfires are moving closer to the
capital forty fires have been burning across the country, and
just the last day thirty have been contained. More than
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six hundred firefighters, seventeen helicopters and sixteen aircraft are working
to extinguish the blaze, with the army assisting.
Speaker 3 (01:29):
The situation is chaotic. Our military unit's been here from
the beginning and we're trying to help the fire unit
and the volunteer teams. We're surrounded by fire here. The
night will be very hard.
Speaker 2 (01:41):
France, Italy and the Czech Republic are all sending firefighting
resources to assist. Russia's President Vladimir Putin says there will
be a quote worthy response to Ukraine's incursion into the
Curse region and a meeting today with security and defense officials.
He said Ukraine is trying to put itself in a
better position for future peace talk. Russian officials say Ukraine
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controls about one thousand square kilometers and twenty eight villages
in the region, with more than one hundred thousand people
now being evacuated. Australian ECE teachers are set to receive
a fifteen percent pay rise across two years if the
centers agreed to limit fee increases. What does that mean
for us, while the NZDI National Secretary of Stephanie Mills,
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says our sector has had a chronic workforce shortage for
a long time and the Ossie pay increase could cause
issues for us here though PAI parity introduced under the
last government has started to turn things around.
Speaker 4 (02:35):
But we're very concerned that if their profession gets done down,
if the government wants to make it cheaper for employers,
that we then worsk losing great people over to Australia.
Speaker 1 (02:46):
Ryan Bridge New for twenty twenty four on early edition
with Smith City, New Zealand's furniture beds and a playing store.
Speaker 2 (02:54):
News talks, it'd be eight after five. Great to have
your company this morning, just with cologne gate. Leo is
that and has reminded me actually that Mike Hoskin comes
to clean the desk in here before I come and
so perhaps there's a lingering smell. Anyway, he'll be with
us just before six. To clarify this morning lots to
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get through. Well, we'll start very quickly with putin just
the latest from overnight. He says, I will kick the
enemy out and obviously referring here to the Ukrainians, that
surprise offensive going inside Russia and they are now fighting
on a second border region. So this is more humiliation
for Putin overnight, and he is upping his rhetoric. They're
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thirty k's inside Russia. The question now is how does
Putin respond to that? What does he do? You know,
first of all, what is the Ukrainian's endgame? But you know,
are they wanting to use the land and negotiations? As
Putin has said? Will it prompt Putin? Will it push
him to go for all out war? I mean, remember
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he's still calling this invasion of Ukraine a military operation,
not a war. So does he now have justification to
go full war? Will watch that this morning? Also the
benefit changes, some are saying cruel. You'll see headlines in
the papers this morning, cruel, stressful for beneficiaries. It's beneficiary bashing.
There was this exchange on three News last night with
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Louise Upston, who's the minister take a list, and it's
talking specifically about beneficiaries with children.
Speaker 5 (04:29):
There are kids out there whose households relied on a
benefit who no longer have any income.
Speaker 6 (04:34):
Yep.
Speaker 7 (04:34):
So I'd say to those parents, it's pretty simple.
Speaker 5 (04:37):
We've got common sense rules around what you need to
do to comply.
Speaker 2 (04:42):
So the interesting thing about this is you would think,
and there have been some beneficiaries with children who have
had their benefits cut by up to fifty percent. That
has happened, but there are small, apparently small in number. Also,
it doesn't just happen out of the blue, you know,
they don't just come along wave a magic one and
say your benefits. But there are steps before you get there.
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So even just yesterday looking at this information from the
Minister's office, there are options for beneficiaries with specifically for
beneficiaries with children, before you go to full sanctions. Option
one is you might be asked to do some work
experience for example. The other option they've introduced is that
half of a person's benefit for a specified period goes
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on that electronic payment card, so you can only buy
groceries etc.
Speaker 1 (05:28):
With it.
Speaker 2 (05:29):
Interesting. We've had a text already and from one of
our listeners saying that they're on a benefit, I've paid
rent power phone, I barely have enough food, let alone
money for beer or for cigarettes. I suppose it's about
how you prioritize it, isn't it. One would love your
feedback on that one This morning nine two nine two,
we're going to speak to a youth advocate just before six.
It's eleven after five.
Speaker 1 (05:51):
The news you need this morning and the in depth
analysis early edition with Ryan Bridge and Swis City, New
Zealand's furniture beds and a flying store.
Speaker 2 (06:00):
News Talk said be fourteen after five year old. News
Talk said be. We are going to speak shortly to AA.
This is about the government's congestion charging legislation. It's going
to be a couple of years away, so you can
relax driving into the cities. This morning, new small business
surveys come out. No surprise really, this is five hundred
SMEs that have been spoken to surveyed by RFI Global Research.
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Seventy percent are stressed and burned out and smeezs remember
make up ninety seven percent of all businesses in New Zealand.
They employ about thirty percent of our workforce. And this
is the number you need to worry about. Just forty
eight percent the confident about the future. This is over
the next year forty eight percent. That's down from fifty
three percent on the last survey. Why inflation cost pressures?
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You know, there aren't people through the door consumers like
there were. And ironically, I suppose one of those problems
will help solve the other, won't they When you know,
interest increase interest rates and you have less foot traffic
through your door, hopefully that should take the pressure off inflation.
So one will help solve the other. But can you
hold on before the rate cut comes? I suppose it's
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the question that decision remember due Wednesday two pm. Also,
just things to note for today. At midday, Elon Musk
is going to interview Donald Trump on X so that'll
be fun. Elon Musk is going to do a first
interview with Trump on X. He backed Biden at twenty twenty,
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and weirdly he is backing Trump even though Trump hates
evs and he owns an EV company. Doesn't make any
sense to me anyway, that is happening at midday today.
It is quarter past.
Speaker 1 (07:41):
Five Ryan Bridge.
Speaker 2 (07:42):
So the legislation is on the way to introduce congestion
charging on our busiest roads. The bill will be drafted
and introduced this year select committee. From early twenty twenty five,
local councils will propose what their ideas are for local roads.
NZTA will help with the design the farm us supposedly
will be ring fence. They must be reinvested back into
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transport in the area. They were taken from the AA
Policy director as Martin Glynn is with us this morning. Martin,
good morning, Good to have you on the show. Good morning, right,
So is this just local roads that we're talking about.
Will this actually help motorway traffic?
Speaker 8 (08:24):
No, I don't think it's local roads at all. I
think there's a very high chance that the food scheme
will be on one or more of Orkand's motorways.
Speaker 2 (08:32):
Okay, so we're not just talking about CBD congestion charging here.
Speaker 8 (08:38):
No, we're not all the singles we've had Ryan As.
It'll be focused on network performance. Utan city centers such
a tiny proportion of the traffic, it doesn't it's not
sort of unable to have it impact on the whole network.
So yeah, we're expecting it'll be beyond the city center,
but we'll have to wait and see what finally, what
Aukland proposes.
Speaker 2 (08:56):
Which I guess makes sense that NZTA is involved, right
given the the motorway networks run by Central.
Speaker 8 (09:03):
Yeah, I think it's a combination of that and the
government wanting to be really sure whatever's proposed is actually
going to it's going to shift the dialogue congestion.
Speaker 2 (09:11):
In Europe, Asia, the Middle East where they've done this.
It only seems to work in those central areas if
you have good public transport alternatives. Do we have that
on our motorway network.
Speaker 6 (09:25):
No, we don't.
Speaker 8 (09:27):
Most of the motorway trips aren't heading to the city
center there, all over the place, a public transport is
now pretty good. And then out of the city center
and an a case of course we'll get a lot
better with the city rail length. But generally, yeah, public
transport is unable to provide tuns of the motorway trips.
Speaker 2 (09:46):
What's a reasonable charge? Do you reckon? I saw Wayne
Brown saying five bucks a cup of coffee.
Speaker 8 (09:53):
Yeah. I think it's a hard question to ryt to answer,
and it will need to be about that level. Make people,
you know, really think about whether they need to be
on the network or not. But they're ladd up. Yeah, Like,
you know, five bucks a trip for someone who's you know,
it doesn't work in the office, and they're not not
don't have the kind of work from home offer in
a couple of days a week, that's fifty bucks. That's
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a week. But yeah, so it's a big amount. And
that's one of the things we're really concerned about that
the charges has got to be affordable because you know,
people don't need the alternatives. Know they're still going to drive.
Speaker 2 (10:24):
Absolutely. Thanks for your time this morning, Martin. Martin Glenn,
the AA policy director for US. And don't forget that
those changes, I mean that will be a couple of
years before they come into for so for people who
are worried right now, I do wonder question if you
live close to where this you know district will be.
You know, if you live in that area, does that
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just mean you can't drive your car if you want
to go, I don't know, visit a friend at peak hour,
you won't be able to do it or you will
have to pay five bucks for the privilege. I suppose
so eighteen minutes after five, emergency vehicles will be exempt.
Importantly for those who are worried about that. Coming up next,
we're looking at construction. Almost three quarters of builders believe
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that the slowdown is going to carry on for at
least another year.
Speaker 1 (11:12):
The first Word on the News of the Day early
edition with Ryan Bridge and Smith City New Zealand's furniture
beds and a play at store news Talk Zippy.
Speaker 2 (11:22):
Twenty one after five new retail crime stats out from
Dairy Owners Group this morning. We'll get to that in
just a second. Also, we'll have more on these benefit
sanctions and exactly what they will mean for beneficiaries just
before six. Right now, almost three quarters of builders believe
the construction slowdown will carry on for at least another year.
According to a new Eboss survey of six hundred and
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fifty Kiwi builders, sixty seven percent don't have as much
work as they did last year. No surprises there, while
seventy percent think that industry conditions will decline over the
next twelve months. Executive director of their Construction Industry Council
is Tommy Honey. He's with me this warning. Hey Tommy, Sure?
Speaker 6 (12:01):
And Ryan, how are you doing?
Speaker 2 (12:02):
Yeah? Good, thanks mate. I've been looking at a couple
of things. Housing can censor down. You've seen those stories
about developers going tips up as well. Who's who's this
heading hardest?
Speaker 6 (12:15):
It's heading hardest of smaller builders, so those about half
of the builders in the survey generally in the country
have zero to five employees, so there are some big
companies around that employ a lot of people and do
very well, and they're they're they they're probably riding through
this this crisis, if you want to call it that
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better than most. So if you if you look at
the smaller builders, there the ones that are being hit hardest.
And and this is survey's extraordinary, the EBOS surveys. There's
a summary out, but if you're actually look into the detail,
there are things that make a real difference of what
they call the forward workload or the short shorthand that's
pipeline how much work you've got coming towards you, and
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for what is it thirty percent of builders it's now
down to zero to three months, and some of that
will be at zero. So people have no work. There's
no work out there at the moment, and I'd say
there's a sort of a perfect store with them. And
once the economic slow down which was hitting us all,
you know, the interest rates aren't moving, but also in
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building the material costs are going up, so it's things
are costing more. The second is a kind of flat
real estate market, and so people because they can't get
to sell their house for what they want, they're just
sitting and waiting, and it's the same is true for buildings.
So they might want to build a new house, but
they've got to sell their old one, so they're not
doing anything. So that kills that. No one's renovating their
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houses to put them on the market because they're waiting
for the market to change, So that kills that part
of the sector. And the third thing is a change
of government, which in itself isn't necessarily a cause of this,
but there's a bit of well I call it wait
and see their part, the government's part, and therefore on
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the whole market, everyone's just waiting and the impact of
sitting builders.
Speaker 2 (14:08):
Tommy, thanks for that update, Tommy Honey with us. He
is from his executive director at the Construction Industry Council,
responding there to a new Eboss survey six hundred and
fifty KI builders basically saying, and most importantly, as Tommy
pointed out, the pipeline of work isn't there. So if
you're a builder, or if you're a trading even and
you're looking at these construction sorry developers going under and
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your pipeline of work isn't there, what do you do?
Do you bugger? Off overseas. I mean, if you can,
if you're mobile, you don't have kids, that sort of thing.
How do you weather the storm when you're you know
your runway is looking so short in front of you.
Twenty four minutes after five nine two ninety two is
the number to text, would love to hear from you
this morning. Back in a second the.
Speaker 1 (14:53):
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Speaker 8 (14:57):
Talks at Me.
Speaker 2 (14:58):
Twenty six after five, Newstalk said, b there is a
real risk to the government's reputation. I mean of every
government is thinking ahead to when they next need to
be re elected. There's a risk here that the government
is taking when it goes for sanctions on beneficiaries, when
it goes for tougher requirements and criteria when it comes
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to social housing, for example. And you're starting to see
some kickback already in response to some of these changes. Now,
if you're a centrist voter, you might think, well, I
think that those are reasonable expectations to put on social
housing providers, to put on emergency accommodation criteria, to put
onto benefit beneficiaries through sanctions or through obligations. You might
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think those things are reasonable. On the other hand, you
might think that seems a bit cruel, and actually, in
an economy like this where jobs are hard to come by,
I might find myself in that position. I don't want
to have those types of obligations. I don't understand what
those obligations are. So there is a political risk to
doing this stuff. But it's bread and butter for national
and it's bread and butter for act. This is exactly
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what their base want, what their supporters want, and so
they are doing it. But it does come with a risk.
It does come with some political risk. One thing that
they need to get on top of the government is
retail crime. The Dairy Owners Group, this is based on
Police STARTA have released new information this morning. So they
say that retail crime is up seventeen percent under national
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seventeen percent. This is the government. Remember the coalition government
said we're going to crack down on retail crime. The
first five months of this year versus last year. Theft
was up, robberies were down interestingly five percent, burglaries down
ten percent. But here's the one you need to worry about.
Acts intended to cause injury. We're up four percent. That
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is very bad. And you're seeing it with hammers and
all sorts of things being used, weapons and shops that
the government needs to get on top of because they
made a big promise. Mark Mitchell has talked the big talk.
The numbers so far unt tracking in their direction and
they need to turn them around. Twenty nine after five,
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Ryan Bridge also this morning, this is the reason why
you don't go diving. Actually, I think we'll have to
come to that story in a second, because we're coming
up to the news story out of the company coast
in Wellington. Just frightening, you know, imagine going diving, popping up,
where's the boat? Boat's gone? What are we going to do? Well,
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I'll tell you in just a few minutes. On News
Talk set B died this.
Speaker 1 (17:41):
Way on your radio and online on iHeartRadio early edition
with Ryan Bridge and Smith City, New Zealand's furniture beds
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and a playing store.
Speaker 2 (18:05):
News Talk said, be.
Speaker 9 (18:08):
As thanks, I'm by myself. You help meself. We care
if you don't tell They said.
Speaker 2 (18:22):
Good morning to get a twenty four away from Sexier.
On news Talk said b I'm Ryan Bridge. It is Tuesday,
the setting that August is great to have your company. Hello, Ryan,
this is I'm just reading this text very quickly. You
are obviously new to the station. You have some interesting views.
Obviously you're a just sinderporter. It just sent a supporter.
It comes across and it's very clear I'd like you
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to take a more balanced approach. You could understand and
bring both sides of the story. You are very very
left leaning. No doubt you won't read this out. Ian,
I've read it out. I don't know what to say. Really.
Lots of other good feedback this morning, Hi, Ryan, No
one talks about the one metric that leads to the
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construction industry downturned consents. They are the intention to build.
Architects have seen a significant decline in the last twelve
to eighteen months. If we don't draw, builders don't build.
It is a good point. It comes after this Eboss
survey of six hundred and fifty Kiwi builders saying seventy
percent basically most builders think that industry conditions won't improve
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over the next year. One really good text this morning, Well,
lots of them, but this one in particular on congestion charges. Ryan,
I have a chronically ill daughter on dialysis. We have
to travel on the motorway for appointments and dialysis at
busy times. Do you think Simeon Brown has thought of
people like us. It's going to be a big expense
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and she is a beneficiary because she's so ill. Judy,
I'm sorry to hear about that situation. It is not ideal.
What I can tell you, Judy, is that emergency vehicles
are exempt. Beyond that, we have no further detail and
it's up to councils to decide on the parameters of
these proposals. To begin with duty. Thanks for your text.
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It is twenty two away from six Brian Bridge. We're
going to our reporters around the country and we will
have that story of the divers and the company coast
in a second. Two Right now the Cullum Proctor as
in Dunedin Culum. You've got a story about the Gourd
District Council this morning, Ye morning Ryan.
Speaker 10 (20:25):
The council's defending its approach to protecting Maori cultural sites.
They say, look, it's no different from the current processes
in place. South and Federated Farmers have expressed concern about
these new plans from the council to declare the entire
district a site and area of significance to MARII. Federated
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Farmers believe it could add unnecessary cost and complexity to
basic farming tasks. The Council those says when a proposed
plan requires resource consent, it may include in put on
any cultural impacts. They say it's important to No decisions
have been made and the topics raised by Federated Farmers
are being considered.
Speaker 2 (21:04):
All right, And how's your weather today?
Speaker 10 (21:06):
Early morning shows clearing to find this afternoon westerlies and
fourteen today brilliant.
Speaker 2 (21:10):
Thank you Claire Sheward's and christ Church this morning. Good
morning Claire. Interesting you were talking the other day about
an expanded Electra Avenue festival and now a scaled back
amp show.
Speaker 11 (21:22):
It's all on here in Canterbury, Ryan Look. Cantabrians are
being urged to show their support for this year's scaled
back show. Just yesterday a former parliament speaker, Sir David Carter,
has been elected the chair of Canterbury Amp Association board
that was at the general meeting had called off this
Novembers show initially because of some financial struggles. That was
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before a local company event Higher came to the rescue.
In June. Carter says he's getting involved at board level
to ensure the show continues for another one hundred years.
He says they're now asking the public to purchase tickets
early and also for sponsors to sign up so it
can return to a strong financial position.
Speaker 2 (22:02):
That sounds like it's going to be a great show.
Clear The weather in Canterbury today.
Speaker 11 (22:07):
Cold and frosty to start, southwesterlies will turn normally a
bit later. The high is twelve with zero overnight.
Speaker 2 (22:13):
Thank you and Max tollers. In Wellington this morning, the
regional Council in a sticky financial spot BEARMX Yeah.
Speaker 12 (22:20):
One of our reporters found this fifty million dollar budget
blowouts at the Greater Wellington Regional Council yesterday which the
council reporting that operating deficit is more than thirty million
higher than expected and the council is now considering cuts
to public transport as a result. No clear reason for
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why it's so big. When we asked yesterday other than
a chair Darren Pont told us a big part of
the shortfall is the council shelling out for the previous
government's public transport subsidies, so he says conversations are soon
beginning on how they can better save, which might include
having to trim back bus services and routes.
Speaker 2 (23:00):
It's less than ideal, isn't it. Max Weather today.
Speaker 12 (23:03):
Clearing as the day goes on, strong southerly's easing Lyater
ten the high Central.
Speaker 2 (23:08):
Brilliant, Thank you and nineteen to sex neveras in the studio,
good morning morning.
Speaker 13 (23:12):
I heard you say after five about a smell in
your studio when you walked in. I thought, oh, I'll
have to have a bit of a snake.
Speaker 2 (23:19):
Can you smell then? Yes, it's thick in the air.
Speaker 13 (23:22):
It is thick in the air. It smells like the
incensey mosque.
Speaker 2 (23:26):
I was going to say expensive.
Speaker 13 (23:28):
Oh yes, so then hey, well who this one?
Speaker 2 (23:31):
Culprit?
Speaker 13 (23:32):
Oh yes, it'll be Hosking of course, of course, because
he would have come and he does as cleaning.
Speaker 2 (23:36):
It does fine, which I think is really nice. I mean,
I'm sure it's not for my benefit that he comes in,
and it's because he doesn't want a doty for when
when he comes in. But there was but I was wondering,
is is it just that he's been in here and
gone and the smell has remained, or is he's actually
spraying the seat.
Speaker 11 (23:54):
Well, he could be.
Speaker 13 (23:56):
What does it say about you saying as we should
try and capture that because little we squirre. It is
probably worth a thousand dollars. I suppose it's better than
the studio smelling a.
Speaker 2 (24:05):
Bo absolutely, absolutely, which is probably what happens when I leave.
Hey very quickly. I know you've got a story for me,
but I've got a story for you.
Speaker 6 (24:14):
Have you tell me?
Speaker 2 (24:15):
These are the divers and Carpity Coast? Did you read that?
Speaker 9 (24:18):
Yes?
Speaker 13 (24:18):
I did, tell me.
Speaker 2 (24:20):
Tell us this is why you don't dive. This is
why I don't dive. Okay, So they're diving. The girlfriends
are on the boat, they go in the water. They're
diving for a couple of hours. They pop up or
they've been dragged south.
Speaker 13 (24:33):
Oh my gosh.
Speaker 2 (24:34):
This is before I've even mentioned sharks, of which they
there are none. But this is what I would be
worried about if I was anyway. Boat's not there, girlfriends
five pm, Sunday night. Where are they? I don't know,
call the emergency services. Can't find out our partners. They've
just you know, gone underwater and haven't popped up. So
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they're thinking obviously the worst. Anyway, the guys have popped up.
They've realized they're too far from the boat. They then
swim through currents and tides and all sorts to an island,
Fisherman Island an hour away.
Speaker 13 (25:11):
An hour, an hour in the water.
Speaker 2 (25:14):
And then they have an emergency pack on them which
has got matches. They light a fire on the island.
Helicopter sees the fire, boom, stop it, rescue serious. This
was Sunday Night and Company.
Speaker 13 (25:25):
These too, neat two divers, two diskies is over medal
is fantastic.
Speaker 2 (25:31):
And the girlfriends for the imagine the nerves.
Speaker 6 (25:33):
Ah, the nerves.
Speaker 13 (25:35):
I mean that's like a movie.
Speaker 2 (25:36):
It is, isn't it? Oh my god?
Speaker 1 (25:38):
Well done?
Speaker 2 (25:39):
What was your story?
Speaker 13 (25:40):
No, I think your story is way better than that.
Mine was about all contransport. But no, but no, you
know we'll wait sick of that. No, your story that
is that tops it. But I'll do the weather. How
about that partly cloudy, isolated light showers early morning Auckland
find spellso increasing this afternoon? Fourteen is the high.
Speaker 2 (25:56):
Brilliant Thank you never get to see sixteen away from sex.
Speaker 1 (26:01):
I love this international correspondence with ends in eye insurance
peace of mind for New Zealand business.
Speaker 2 (26:09):
Fourteen away from six. We're talking to Shirley Johnson, the
Youth Justice Consultant on the beneficiary changes which will do
in just a few moments A very quickly a text,
this one from Jake making a good point, Hi, Ryan,
Nobody will be sanctioned for being unemployed. They'll be sanctioned
for not meeting the requirements I having a CV, attending interviews,
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et cetera. Jake good point well made the text number
nine two, nine to two this morning. We're now going
to Donna Tomayo, our Australia correspondent. There's a push for
a total gambling ad band there, Donna.
Speaker 5 (26:42):
Yes, there was a certain inquiry in twenty twenty two
and it called for a full ban on gambling ads,
and it's back in the news because it looks like
Lady's going to face some resistance from backbenches and the
Greens in regard to what it's said or suggesting that
perhaps there won't be a gambling ad ban, a full ban,
(27:02):
but there might be some cap imposed on them. So
we've heard from the Cabinet Minister Bill Shorten, who says
that I'm not sure the blanket bands work. Interesting, right,
So the Greens spoken up and we heard from their
communications spokespresin Sarah Hanson Young yesterday and she said that
the minor party would be trying to amend that bill
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or any bill that is introduced that would lead and
they do definitely want a total ban on gambling ads.
It's an ongoing campaign. But what would that mean. They
want no ads online, they want none in children's programming,
and they definitely don't want any during live sports broadcasts
and an hour either side of said sports broadcasts. So
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it'll be interesting to see what ends up happening. But
as Albanezi says, the government is working through the issues
and says it is very complex. Now can you imagine
media companies, major sporting codes. Well, they definitely don't want
gambling at bands because I imagine the impact on their
revenue exactly.
Speaker 2 (28:07):
Hey, one person I wouldn't be bidding on and that
that's Raygun the Olympic breakdown. So she's she's spoken, spoken
out on what's happened. What she's saying.
Speaker 5 (28:17):
As we have gone on, Vital has been relentless since that.
You just can't unsee that kangaroo move that she that
she did at that breakdancing at the Olympics. So Raygun
has said that it's all about creativity and originality, and
she said she was never going to beat the girls
she described them and their power moves, but what she
(28:41):
brought to the Olympics and to the breakdancing was creativity
and that sometimes her artistry speaks to the judges and
sometimes it doesn't, but she is convinced that what she
did was art And we also heard from the PM
who said the Olympics, well, it's about people participating in
sport and she gave it a cry.
Speaker 2 (29:01):
She certainly did. Donna, thank you very much for that. Donodo,
our Australia correspondent. It's eleven to six Bryan Bridge Beneficiary
bashing or reasonable Expectations. The government has introduced tougher rules
and harsher penalties for beneficiaries. Job Seekers will have to
reapply for the benefit every six months, and a new
traffic light system which will indicate whether you're complying with
(29:23):
the rules that came into a false yesterday. There will
also be new sanctions like money management. It means that
half of a person's benefit could go on an electronic
payment card which you can only use for things like
essentials like groceries and clothing, but only if they break
the rules to begin with, don't meet the obligations, right,
(29:43):
So what does this mean for particularly young job seekers.
Youth Justice consultant advocate Sheirley Johnson's with me now, Shurley,
good morning.
Speaker 4 (29:51):
Good morning.
Speaker 2 (29:53):
So I suppose there's two Well, there's obviously two arguments here.
But my question to you you would be what is
unreasonable about the expectations.
Speaker 4 (30:06):
Well, you're right, like, obviously we need some accountability, but
there always is a bit of an undertone about people
who find themselves on benefits for whatever reason something the
people who you can't trust, so therefore you've got to
manage their money. And it's a sense that they're sitting
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at home English and on the money which we are
giving them. It's just not the reality. We exist in
a recessionary times for adults finding it hard to get
to work, and so if you look at adult unemployments
going up, young people it's always about double of that.
So for them to get it's really tough times at
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the moment, and I don't think punishments it's the way
to activate this in any way at all.
Speaker 2 (31:00):
So let's be clear, you don't get punished for just
being on the benefit. You only get punished if and
you don't even get punished if you're on the benefit
and you can't find a job. You get punished if
you don't meet the obligations, right, and there are levels
of punishment and traffic light systems, etc.
Speaker 4 (31:21):
Yeah, I think even that idea, like I'd like to
believe that every young person has a casework that they're working,
how we wouldn't know very clearly how they're going in
terms of trying to get a job in supporting them.
The idea that every six month saying you've got to
reapply it really is a bit of a sense of punishment.
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Nothing is more terrifying than him to go into an
organization like MSD to apply to see whether you've got.
Speaker 6 (31:50):
Any more money again.
Speaker 4 (31:52):
And like, I just think some of those steps are
just unnecessary because one of the key things that we've
found over the years in terms of turning things around
for young people, because a lot of young people who
are on benefits kind of either don't have the skills,
have been through a lot of traumas that have lost
tous and confidence both in themselves in the system as
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quality relationships are really important so that they rebuild themselves
and anything that gets in the way of that is
quite destructive. And none of this is new, none of no.
Speaker 6 (32:29):
I know, we have.
Speaker 4 (32:30):
Tried before where beneficiaries are only allowed to purchase whatever.
I've tried before, where you know, you have to work
to get the doll and they actually found that it
didn't work. So it's kind of feels to me a
little bit fullness to go back and redo what we
know doesn't work when there are in fact a lot
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of programs out there that are working incredibly well.
Speaker 2 (32:55):
Surely thanks for your time. That Shirley Johnson, she's the
Youth Justice Consultant Advocate, responding there to the government's changes
on penalties and you know, criteria, et cetera, sanctions. I
don't know. Sherely mentions that there can be terrifying the
thought of having your benefit canceled. Shouldn't that be a
little bit terrifying, you know, the thought that perhaps you
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won't be able to feed and clothe yourself, and therefore
it acts as motivation to get work. Nine two nine
two the number.
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Speaker 7 (33:42):
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Speaker 2 (33:44):
Yeah, well, you know, why is he supporting a guy
who doesn't like evs? That's what I don't care.
Speaker 7 (33:49):
But because he's an unusual bloke and a read very
interesting piece the other day that suggested that his brand
now is damaging the car company because he's so sort
of toxic. Yeah, and so people go, I don't want
to be associated with him, So I wouldn't buy his car,
even if it's a decent car.
Speaker 2 (34:04):
It's interesting anyway.
Speaker 7 (34:05):
Prime Minister on this morning gets Prime Minister Tuesday, so
we'll talk about the electricity market.
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by any chance?
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