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Speaker 1 (00:01):
The issues, the interviews and the inside. Ryan Bridge you
for twenty twenty four on the early edition with Smith City,
New Zealand's furniture beds and a play at store. News talks.
Speaker 2 (00:15):
It'd be good morning. It is six after five year
old news talks. They'd be coming up before six. Willie
Jackson on the Treaty Principal's bill, why our super fund
is absolutely smashing it? And the Australian Correspondent. This morning
at quarter to six, there's a man hunt underway for
a guy who threw hot coffee at a nine month
old baby. It's a horrible, horrible thing to do in
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a public place. We'll ask what's going on with that,
plus what is chrono working. We'll tell you.
Speaker 1 (00:44):
The agenda.
Speaker 2 (00:45):
It's Tuesday, the tenth of September. The Princess of Wales
says she has completed chemotherapy, almost six months after revealing
she was undergoing treatment for cancer.
Speaker 3 (00:54):
Doing what I can to stay cancer free is now
my focus. So I finished chemotherapy. My path to healing
and full recovery is long and I must continue to
take each day as it comes.
Speaker 2 (01:08):
Does anyone else feel a little intrusive about the fact
that we have to get these updates from her. Israeli
forces have conducted airstrikes in Syria, killing at least eighteen people.
It's believed military sites were targeted, including a research center
used to develop weapons. The IDEF says it won't comment
on the strikes, but previously, as we know, they've carried
out operations targeting sites linked to Iran and Hezbula. The
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government's forced a Hawk's Bay health provider to back down
after offering free health care services to patients on the
basis of their race health. Our health Hawks Bay promoted
the access for poor people, those living in deprived areas,
and people with cancer, diabetes, cardiovascular disease, etc. So far okay,
but they also added Maudi and Pacifica people to that list,
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regardless of how well off they are. That's now been undone.
I think most kiwis A agree that's probably the right call.
Surely need must come first.
Speaker 4 (02:03):
Are We communicated back to them that it was not
consistent with government policies, certainly not consistent with my gavement
policy statement.
Speaker 2 (02:10):
There are two strikes making headlines this morning, one at Wilworst,
New Zealand from midday today, the other at Boeing in
the US, Wilworst offering an increase of six point six
percent Boeing twenty five percent. These are very different cases,
and a set will break down why Boeing workers are
likely to win and wool Worst staff likely to lose.
Speaker 1 (02:29):
News and views you trust to start your day, It's
early edition with Ryan Bridge and Smith City, New Zealand's
furniture beds and a playing store. News Talk said B.
Speaker 2 (02:45):
It's nine minutes half to five year o. News Talk
said B. If you watch Postcab yesterday, you might have
seen a little debate ensue between a couple of journals
and Chris luxon this is the Treaty Principles Bill debate
Church b state the four hundred priests and the clergyman
and the clergy women who said they are opposed to
David Seymour's Treaty Principles Bill on the basis of fairness
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and speaking truth to power and all this other stuff.
A lot of the journalists couch their questions. As a
man of faith, mister duckson how do you feel about
you know? Which I suppose is a fair enough tactic.
You know, if you're a journal and you're trying to
get an answer. This is what happened his response to
one of them.
Speaker 1 (03:26):
If you've been described just before by general as a
man of faith and then by a.
Speaker 2 (03:30):
Christian, what does you're in? A few people might be
curious about what you're not.
Speaker 5 (03:36):
I mean, you've been evangelical, Christian has been throwing a
grounded a.
Speaker 2 (03:39):
Lot of labels throwing. Well, I mean your chance to
kind of let us know a little bit about your faith.
Refer you to my maiden speech, Jason, if you're really
keen to understand it. Do we care if he is
a man of faith? Does any does it matter? Does
it make any difference? I suppose it's the same thing
as assuming, you know, are you assuming that because he's
a man of faith, that he will think exactly the
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same as every other man and woman of faith out there?
And isn't their lightest like assuming that every Maordi person
will think exactly the same as every other Maordi person,
or every gay person will think exactly the same. This
is the problem with identity politics, isn't it. You know
you assume, oh, well, they you know, look the same
as me, or have sex with the same people as me.
Therefore they are identical to me. It is not the case. Also,
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just on this Catholics still don't ordain women priests, do they?
And there's no rainbow flag flying at the Vatican. So
hypocrisy much, you know, until the Pope walks on a
pride parade, I think I'll take my moral lectures elsewhere.
Thank you very much the news.
Speaker 1 (04:43):
You need this morning and the in depth analysis early
edition with Ryan Bridge and Smith City, New Zealand's furniture
beds and a playing store.
Speaker 2 (04:52):
News Talk said be two ten minutes after five stocks
have recovered in the US overnight. That the sell off
last week was pretty significant, so at least more well
more than a year since the last sell off that big.
Remember the regional banking crisis that the stock market endured
over in the States, Well it was worse than that
last week. Things have recovered slightly overnight, the Dow adding
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one point one percent. They had that Job's report on Friday,
which was quite mixed. The next big thing to watch
for is the Federal Reserve and their announcement next week.
It's Tuesday or Wednesday next week, I forget which one.
Exactly will they go a quarter of a percent? Will
they go half a percent thirteen after five branch back here.
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There were eighty suspected suicides in the construction industry last year.
That is a record high. And the Mates and Construction
Industry Group, who are a charity, they want to improve
well being and reduce that number. They have released some
new research this morning which is interesting. It found that
eighty five percent of workers reported positive mental well being.
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That's ten percent more than the year previous. Doctor Lauren
donnan is with us this morning. She's from Mates and
constructed and conducted this research. Thank you for being with us.
Speaker 6 (06:04):
Good morning, Good morning, Thank you for having me.
Speaker 2 (06:07):
Can I st up what period of time is this
new data for, because the industry is struggling at the moment,
so I was surprised to hear that there was an
uptick in positive feelings.
Speaker 6 (06:19):
Yeah, the particular piece of research you're referring to is
between August and November of last year.
Speaker 2 (06:26):
Okay, so that might help explain some of that. What
are you putting this down to this increase?
Speaker 6 (06:33):
I think it's really important that we do research annually
so we can understand the trends year on year and
also understand what is working well and what's not going
so well. So we can see underneath that eighty five percent,
what does.
Speaker 2 (06:49):
It look like and what is it telling you?
Speaker 6 (06:53):
It's telling us that year on year, overall well being
seems to be improving, that there are key groups that
are needing extra support within our industry, and those groups
have higher distress and lower mental wellbeing. And those are
workers like al Dangatahi aged fifteen to twenty four, our
non binary and female workers. And interestingly, this year we
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looked at workers at the disability illness or mental illness
and that was a group that really needed extra support,
and one in five workers told us that they had
a disability or illness. When you think about the size
of that group, it's over two thousand workers. I mean, yeah,
quite a significant finding for us.
Speaker 2 (07:35):
It is, it is very significant. What do you so?
Twenty twenty one there was seventy percent reported you know,
positive mental wellbeing. Twenty twenty two that was seventy five percent.
Twenty twenty three, eighty five percent. Is is it possible
that because we're talking more about it and the industry
is talking more about it, that's helping people to feel.
Speaker 7 (07:55):
Better one hundred percent.
Speaker 6 (07:58):
I think what we're seeing in and what our staff
who are out on the ground every day talking to workers,
is that shift in the culture on sites and being
able to talk about mental health, that really early intervention
stuff that we're doing where we get in there and
we make sure that work is still comestable having those
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courageous conversations, and I think that raised awareness around mental
wellbeing is really helping.
Speaker 2 (08:26):
Thank you so much for your time. Really interesting research,
as I said, that's come out this morning, Doctor Lauren
Donnan with us from Mates and Construction. She's the research
manager there. Just gone sixteen minutes after five. News Talk
said b why our super fund is smashing it.
Speaker 1 (08:39):
Next the first word on the News of the Day
early edition with Ryan Bridge and Smith City, New Zealand's
furniture Beds at a playing store. News Talk Sibby.
Speaker 2 (08:49):
Good morning, just gone nineteen minutes after five. We'd love
to get your feedback this morning nine two nine two
on anything we're talking about, including this I mentioned earlier.
Two strikes, two big strikes in the news today is
woolworst here in New Zealand. So thousands are going on
strike today from twelve till two pm, walking off the job.
They say they're underpaid, their understaffed, and undervalue. The other
is Boeing in the States. They'll get to that in
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a sec but with Woolwors so they're offering six point
six percent. This is the average increase for those who
are in the store pay increase six point six percent,
taking the starting rate to twenty six dollars sixty for
those working in a store at Woolworst in New Zealand.
Here's a couple of reasons why I think they might
be in a little bit of trouble getting more than
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that one. The Wilworst result was down fifty seven percent,
the one that we just had reported to seventy one
million dollars two. Inflation is set to be back in
the target range of one to three percent by September,
meaning the wool Worst offer is essentially better than inflation
over the next couple of years. Unemployment in New Zealand
is up in the latest data, so Willis has options
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in terms of hiring other people. The other thing is Costco.
They say Costco's twenty seven dollars an hour. Well, that's
an outlier when you look across the board. Now, the
Boeing thing is really interesting. This is over an American
They are offering a twenty five percent increase in pay
to their staff. Wow. Sure it's over four years, but
that's still six point two five percent per annum. This
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is for their Seattle and Portland factories. Now. The reason
that the workers there have so much power, well, there's
a couple of reasons, but one of them. Boeing is
absolutely under the pump. Has a record backlog of seven
thousand planes. They can't afford to not have any workers
in the factories right now. When you're desperate and you're
in a tight spotlight that you'll basically pay anything to
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keep them on the job. Twenty one minutes after five
Bryan Bridge. The value of the New Zealand Superfund has
reached a record high seventy six point six billion dollars
at the end of financial year twenty four. That's up
from sixty five odd billion a year earlier. Posted an
investment return of almost fifteen percent after costs but before
tax for the year thirtieth of June. It means the
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fund paid one point five billion in tax. The government
contributions to the fund during the year were one point
six billion. Jonathan Erickson's the Superannuation and superfund expert with
us this morning. Jonathan, Good morning morning, Ryan. This sounds great.
Are they just riding the stock market wave here or
is this a specific strategy that's netting the result.
Speaker 8 (11:22):
Now it is the stock market wave, Ryan, but they're
exploiting that wave very well. They've always gone into a
wide range of assets all around the world, but they
are playing it extremely well and the results this year
make up for a very poor return which everybody had
when the markets went down in twenty twenty two. So
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in that sense, fifteen percent is a great return. The
key one from my point of view is that over
the life of the fund, which has been going through
over twenty years now, they've got over ten percent perannum
and that's the superb result because it's consistent as well.
Speaker 2 (12:03):
When it comes to real estate, infrastructure Timber. These are
things that the part of the active investment strategy that
they have is that a significant part.
Speaker 8 (12:12):
Of this no, it's a relatively small part. The bulk
of it is the global share market run that's done
so well, but all these little things on the side help,
and especially in New Zealand. I think the best example
I've got right, and it's an old one there, but
Shell sold its downstream assets and the New Zealand super
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Fund and Infantol joined up and boards Z and now
we've got Z petrol stations throughout the country and they're
making a much better profit than when Shell owned them.
So it is adding value in a whole lot of
different ways. But as I say, the key to it
is the superb run that the stock markets had since
about October last year.
Speaker 2 (12:55):
What does this mean for us in terms of, you know,
our fortunes in retirement.
Speaker 8 (13:00):
Oh, it's superb because it means that everybody can enjoy
their retirement from age sixty five without feeling that you know,
the country owes us money or the taxes having to
go up. And that's the best bit. I mean, if
it wasn't for the New Zealand super Fund, we'd be
paying more tax.
Speaker 2 (13:21):
It's almost like we should have done it earlier. Jonathan.
Thank you Jonathan Ericson with our superannuation and superfund experts
and good news for your Tuesday morning, twenty three minutes
after five News talks theb some of your feedback coming
next Nine to nine two is the number. Also this
business with ird giving your details some of your details
over to Facebook, et cetera. Doesn't seem right, does it.
Speaker 1 (13:43):
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Speaker 2 (13:49):
Ird is giving your data to Facebook? Taxpayers data to Facebook.
That was the headline yesterday. We give them our data
in trust and confidence. Will we don't? Actually we give
them our data because the law says we must file
our tax returns and tell them who we are and
how much we're earning, etc. But perhaps you assume that
the law says that they must keep it to themselves.
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Not so. And I think this is a scandal. It
is scandalous, to be honest. When I read the headline,
I thought, oh, IOD must have been hit by one
of those phone scams. You know, they've been cold called
by Nigerian prince and handed over our private data. But no,
The R and Z report says they give Facebook and
the big tech guys some of our information because it's anonymized.
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It's hashed what they're calling it hashed, so they can't
see who you are when they hand it over. And
it's only for the purposes of IOD placing ads on
these platforms like Facebook, etc. So don't worry about it. Sorry,
I am and I reckon. Most kiwis will hate this.
The reason is pretty simple. It's trust. Do you trust Facebook?
Speaker 1 (14:56):
No?
Speaker 2 (14:57):
Do you believe they will keep your data secure?
Speaker 9 (15:00):
No?
Speaker 2 (15:01):
Do you believe they won't marry up your private data
that our government has just handed them on a silver
platter with the profiles they have on you already. No,
No one trusts these guys. I don't want some government
department sending my data to some Silicon Valley server so
that some tech guy can better bug me with intrusive
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ads about what undies to buy. I actually think there's
more to this story, and there will be, because they
have a life of their own. It won't just be
the IDA that's doing it. There'll be other government departments,
There'll be other private data. There'll be more of us
affected and luxe and should get ahead of this and
just say let's have some kind of little review, because
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otherwise you're going to get these headlines ticking over and
over and over, and I think people will be sick
of it. Also, we need to have as citizens, we
need to have faith that when we give our data
to the government and it is kept secure and safe,
and even a perception that it's not is not good enough.
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Twenty eight after five breach. That's more to come on
the show. We're going to go to Donald Demayo, our
Australia correspondent after the news. At five point thirty there
have been anti war activists disrupting weapons expo in Melbourne.
We'll get the latest on that, plus very quickly the
you know the Russian spy, the beluga whale that we
talked about, the white whale with the thinging around its
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neck they thought was a spy. Anyway, Valdemar is his name.
He's died. I told you that last week, remember, and
the animal rights activists reckoned that he had been shot.
Turns out that's not quite right. And we I even
speculated it was bad, but I speculated that perhaps Putin
had gone hunting. Apparently not. The police have done an
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autopsy on Valdemar, and apparently he had a fourteen inch
stick stuck in his mouth so he couldn't eat poor
thing other than some wrat fishing and found him floating
in the water. Anyway, it wasn't shot, It was a stick.
Twenty nine after five.
Speaker 1 (17:32):
Get ahead of the headlines, Ryan Bridge, you for twenty
twenty four on early edition with Smith City, New Zealand's
furniture bids at a playing store.
Speaker 2 (17:41):
News Talk zid be good morning, it is twenty four
hour way from six. Y're on news Talk said be
on rhyan Bridge. Great to have your company. It is Tuesday,
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the tenth of September and we're going to head to
Willie Jackson, Labour's Maori development spokesperson. Just before six o'clock,
David Seymour has made some concessions on the Treaty Principles Bill.
Does that mean that people are going to back down?
Donod de Mayo, our Australia correspondent, is with us shortly.
There's a big anti war protest going on in Melbourne. Also,
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there's a man hunt for a guy, a thirty two
year old who poured a flask of hot coffee over
a nine month old baby in a Brisbane park. Apparently
he's fled overseas, so we'll find out more about that
from here as well. Do you know what chrono working is?
Interesting story in the Herald this morning, Tipped to be
the next big employment craze here in New Zealand. Chrono
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working is where you're allowed to choose your own work
hours based on your circadian rhythm, your personal sleeping patterns
and the times that you are most productive. Come on,
so you could start early. I mean I might just
go home now I feel my circadian rhythm kicking. So
you can come in at morning tea time, you can
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nap in the early afternoon. You can basically do what
you want. There's a survey in Australia forty two percent
for chrono working would improve their mental health. Have you
ever had such nonsense? It's like those school kids in
christ Heach who have been given the option to study
from home two days a week. Honestly, what was the
world coming to? If you're worried about your mental health,
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do you know what you should not do? Go home
and avoid people. That's the worst thing you can do
for it. Twenty two away from six Ryan Bridge, showing
to our reporters right around the country. Callum Proctor is
in Dunedin. Good morning, callumod morning, right, good to have
you on the show. So tell us about the homeless
people camping in the oval? What's going on here?
Speaker 10 (19:46):
Well, they're not there anymore. These tents were first set
up nearly two years ago. The council has confirmed that
well At its peak, the site had up to sixty
people living there. There have been some rumors on lines
suggesting the campus had been kicked out, but charity groups
and support groups alike saale this isn't the case. Dunedin
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Betting Banks say a lot of groups such as MSD
and police have helped get those people into emergency or
temporary housing now that fits their needs.
Speaker 2 (20:15):
They say.
Speaker 10 (20:15):
Others that were on the site not allocated housing have
also moved on. The Dunedon City Council ryans confirmed that
no one was forcibly removed from the sports ground where
they were camping at the oval in Donedan.
Speaker 2 (20:29):
Oh okay, well that's good that they've found somewhere else
for them. Weather today, Cullum.
Speaker 10 (20:34):
Shower is developing today with the fresh sol westerly easing
the high thirteenth.
Speaker 2 (20:37):
Thank you very much. Claise Sherwood is in christ You
good morning to you. Clear the road tripping staple that's
doing well.
Speaker 11 (20:45):
Yeah, Look, it's nice to have a good news story
this morning.
Speaker 1 (20:47):
Ryan.
Speaker 11 (20:47):
The Fairly Bay House, which if you've traveled the South
Island you'll know is renowned for award winning pies, has
reached a milestone of fifteen years in business, Director Franz
Lieber says it's humbling to have reached what he's describing
as an unexpected success, saying it all comes down to
staff and their consistency. He says the fun they have
at work is evident to customers. I don't know why
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you'd want to go home early if you work there,
and they're always willing to help out as much as
they can. He does say some staff have been with
him for more than a decade, which is a success
in itself.
Speaker 2 (21:18):
Hat what's your favorite there? Have you got a pie
or a what?
Speaker 11 (21:22):
I'm not a big pie eater, but my husband loves
the pork belly and apple sauce.
Speaker 3 (21:26):
One. You should get one, right?
Speaker 2 (21:27):
That sounds pretty good, Thank you, Claire. So that's unfairly.
The weather in Canterbury.
Speaker 11 (21:32):
Today mostly fine today, warm start. We could see a
shower or two though, and the high as eighteen brilliant.
Speaker 2 (21:37):
Thank you Max Holes and Wellington Max. The Kubu rail
sentencing emotions running high.
Speaker 5 (21:43):
Yeah, a QUBA will find more than four hundred thousand
dollars yesterday after the May Day incident early last year
in which the Kentucky Cook straight very lost power. It
began drifting towards share. It happened because of a faulty part. Luckily,
the captain did regain control of the ship before anything
disastered disastrous could happen. Yeah, QWI reel sentence. We learned
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of what it was like on board for some of
those passengers. They were all invited to give statements to
the court during this sentencing. Sixteen were read out crying, vomiting,
panic attacks. One child couldn't be convinced that she and
her family were not going to die, shaking and hyperventilating.
Some of the passengers were filming final farewells to their
family as well. Meanwhile, there's a voice on the intercom
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telling them to put their life jackets on, but the
voice seemed to be crying. Some people trapped for a
time in the lifts. So yeah, a very distressing time
for some of those eight hundred and fifty passengers. Four
hundred and twelve thousand dollars fine, it could have been
a maximum one point five million.
Speaker 2 (22:41):
For qwirail Wow, all right with it today.
Speaker 5 (22:44):
Mix, she'll we mainly find some stronger norwesterly sixteen the
high Central.
Speaker 2 (22:48):
Thank you neighbors, and Auckland. Good morning, neighbor, good morning,
lovely to see you. The text on bus drivers.
Speaker 12 (22:54):
Oh, that's as terrible here in Auckland bus drivers they
deserved danger money. So two Auckland bus drivers have suffered
serious injuries since the end of August. One are broken
to the other spinal fracture. The union's Auckland president, that's
a tramways union says that all the new electric buses
now they're going to be equipped with security screens. And
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Gary Froggett, he's the president. He says, it doesn't cover
all the busses though, and so the next step really
is retro fitting the existing diesel fleet, but that's going
to take some time. But yeah, I mean, you've just
got to feel for these bus drivers. They's just trying
to get their job done. And you know, you get
these people coming in and you know, slapping them around.
Speaker 2 (23:34):
Yet it's not good and you can't exactly kick them
off of the agro, can you, because you know then
you're going to get hurt.
Speaker 13 (23:39):
That's right.
Speaker 12 (23:40):
And you know you can't get the passengers involved either,
and none of the passengers they're quite scared. And so
Froggitt is also saying that many are questioning. This is
the bus drivers saying is it worth being a bus driver.
Speaker 2 (23:51):
At It's a fair question to ask. I want to
know during COVID, remember all the jerryes and everything pop
those perspect that all happened overnight. Why can the bus
drivers not get I've been for years.
Speaker 12 (24:06):
Those screens perfect and they need to get the funding
for that. I think they deserve it.
Speaker 2 (24:10):
I think so too. Neva with it today.
Speaker 12 (24:12):
Find spells increasing this morning We've got isolated shows, but
that will come. This evening eighteen is the high here
in Auckland.
Speaker 2 (24:18):
Brilliant. Have a great day. Seventeen minutes away from Sex
News Talk.
Speaker 1 (24:21):
SEDB International Correspondence with ends in eye Insurance Peace of
mind for New Zealand business.
Speaker 2 (24:28):
Just got brought it to Section News Talks the B
for your Tuesday morning. Willie Jackson here on the Treaty
Principles Bill in just a second right now, though, Donnadma
is our Australia correspondent, Donna, good to have you on
the program. This weapons expo in Melbourne bracing for big protest.
What's going on?
Speaker 14 (24:46):
Yes, In fact, Victoria police have erected a ring of
steel as they describe it around this weapons expo. It's
going to have about eight hundred companies there and there's
going to be military tanks and semi automatic guns on display,
and a lot of peop people are expected to attend
the expo itself, but it's understood up to about twenty
five thousand people may take to the streets, these anti
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war activists they're calling themselves, and they possibly planned to
cause chaos. So Victoria police are trying to be prepared
for that. Interstate police have been called in and it
suggested it may be a repeat of similar scenes. Way
back in two thousand there was absolute mayhem and violence
on the streets when protesters targeted the World Economic Forum
and about one hundred people were arrested at that time.
Speaker 7 (25:32):
So this Land Forces Expo.
Speaker 14 (25:34):
Does have the focus of police and activists. In fact,
already at the weekend some Melbourne hotels have been painted
red and vandalized, and so we do believe that hundreds
of police are being brought in as I mentioned, and
there's already this fencing that's covered in tarps. So it's
not really clear now to the general public what's happening
behind those tips, but you might want to know that
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police now do have these extra increased power was to
search any person and vehicle under heightened anti terrant legislation
in Victoria, the Lord Mary in the meantime, he's just saying,
please everybody stay calm.
Speaker 2 (26:10):
Yeah, Nia, it sounds like there might be some need
for calm there. Tell us this thirty two year old
who allegedly poured a flask of hot coffee on a
nine month old baby in Brisbane.
Speaker 14 (26:21):
Yes, it's been described as a deliberate and unprovoked attack.
This baby suffered significant burdens to his face, arms and legs.
Speaker 7 (26:28):
Now, thankfully he's on the men.
Speaker 3 (26:30):
Now.
Speaker 14 (26:30):
This happened on the twenty seventh of August, but we
have had an update from Brisbane Police and we now
know that the man who allegedly did this pouring this
scolding coffee on a nine month old baby has escaped
overseas and he escaped they believe less than a day
before he was identified by detectives.
Speaker 7 (26:49):
And I found this most interesting.
Speaker 14 (26:52):
Police have confirmed that it became apparent that this person
was aware of police methodologies, was conducting countess of aileence
activity and that made the investigation quite complex.
Speaker 7 (27:03):
Meantime, the family is saying they do hope that one
day justice will be served.
Speaker 2 (27:08):
It's bizarre, isn't that.
Speaker 7 (27:09):
The baby Okay, the baby is on the mend. We
heard from the family as well.
Speaker 14 (27:13):
He's up and about and walking again, and his mother
is just really that he's such a strong little boy.
Speaker 2 (27:19):
As she put it, absolutely Donna, thank you for that. Donald. Tomorrow,
our Australia correspondent, News Talk said b twelve away from six.
Bryan Bridge Act leader David Seymour has confirmed a change
to the Treaty Principal's Bill, which was discussed in Cabinet yesterday.
He says the Government agreed on its broad outline and
the bill will now go to parliament s drafters.
Speaker 13 (27:39):
Well, actually are going to change a little bit to
acknowledge the acknowledgment of the rights of Hapu and Eli
at the time of the treaty, because I think a
lot of people have been annoyed that we didn't include that.
Speaker 2 (27:50):
One of those annoyed, Willie Jackson, labor Maori Development spokesperson,
really more than a good morning, mar Din Ryan.
Speaker 9 (27:57):
Good to talk with you mate.
Speaker 2 (27:58):
Yeah, good to have you on the show. Does that
is that music? To your ears. Are you now on
board with all this?
Speaker 9 (28:03):
Will he cut of that right? I mean, the whole
thing is a joke. It's it's interesting though that he's
made some type of concession, you know, because of the
bloke is you know how seamour's been going. It's all,
we are the world and everybody's got the same rights,
(28:23):
and there's been no concession whatsoever has there in terms
of indigenous or maldi right. So you know, that is
a little bit of a background, I would say, because
you know, he's never ever said that there was any
sort of rights in terms of hapou ewe or whatever.
So I find that interesting. But that's certainly not going
(28:44):
to convince us of the merits of this. This The
drive with us is to actually extinguish indigenous rights. That's
that's just the reality.
Speaker 2 (28:55):
But he's just specifically changed his bill to include them.
Speaker 9 (29:00):
It's just nonsense. The driver, the drive of the bill
is to make it very clear that mary don't have
special rights. He hasn't. He has not said that he's
going to acknowledge. You know, there's an acknowledgement there and
that's and that's good. But but he's trying to give
(29:23):
everyone the same indigenous right set especially allocated for Mardi,
particularly in an article two, in in article three and
and and this is some sort of this is some
sort of strategy I think to try and give him
an opportunity to to see if he can get national
across the line. I don't think he's got any chance
(29:44):
of that at the moment. You never know.
Speaker 2 (29:47):
In your opposition to this, you you there's a lot
of talk from Labor MPs saying, what my reading of
it is here he is aren't adult enough to debate
in an issue like this. Is that a bit condescending?
Speaker 9 (30:01):
Well, it's not just labor MPs who are saying that
they that there should be no debate. You've just had
four hundred Christian leaders who have come out and said
that the whole bill is a total waste of time.
Speaker 2 (30:13):
So the public can't be trusted.
Speaker 9 (30:16):
Well, sorry, who's saying the public can't be trusted?
Speaker 2 (30:19):
Well you are. You're saying we're not adult enough to
have a.
Speaker 9 (30:24):
I'm saying no, No. What I'm saying, mate, is that
I think we've got a dishonest politician and dishonest party
who should know better. You know, the treaty has been
clearly entrenched in terms of New Zealand history. The articles
of the treaty have been recognized by the top judges
of this nation and the top leaders of this nation
(30:45):
on either side, and we should just continue along this track.
Totally trying to upset the apple card, and I think
it's disgraceful.
Speaker 2 (30:52):
But this bills about the principles, not the articles.
Speaker 9 (30:54):
Right, Well, it's about it's about the principles. Obviously, it's
about the principles, but they've been derived from the articles.
The principles have been derived from the articles. The judges
and New Zealand politicians have recognized the principles or may
have been in tru since nineteen eighty seven. Yes, that's correct.
(31:15):
So it's really important that we continue along this trek.
He's just trying to upset the apple cart, and he
keeps making out that Mary's are not anything special in
our history, has got nothing to do with what's happening today.
The reality is Mary have been tracking backwards for many,
many years, and recognizing the principles has given Mary opportunity
(31:38):
in terms of the treaty settlement's process rhyme. In terms
of Mardi television. Maori broadcasting Marti Radio. It's given Mary
an opportunity to get back in terms of equity, and
governments have recognized that.
Speaker 2 (31:52):
Are you proud of your record? I mean, would we
be here today if you guys didn't misstep on co
governance as Chippy said you did? Are you disappointed? Are
you disappointed in not seem or but in yourself? Will
you No, I'm.
Speaker 9 (32:06):
Actually disappointed in you because because we need broadcasters like you,
you know, who understand what we were trying to do
over six years, and we got more change for Maudi
than any other government in history. I think you'd recognize that.
Your mate who's following you recognizes anything's we've got too
much change almost the Hoskins, there's just that. There's just
(32:28):
a reality. But what should he does say is we
could have taken the public a bit better with us.
And I say that that might well be right. But
I'm proud of a co governance. I'm proud of much
atin me. I'm proud of Mutticky Day, the holiday that
is for all New Zealanders. And I think we just
got so much change over six years that a lot
(32:50):
of key we should be proud of that. This is
about partnership. It's not about marriage wanting to do stuff
on their own. I want to partner up with you
and Mike costumes and enjoy mutatially day.
Speaker 13 (33:00):
You know what.
Speaker 9 (33:00):
I want to go out together, beg. There's an invitation
to the zb hih, so you go.
Speaker 2 (33:05):
Right, all right, I'll take you up on that, Willia.
I do enjoy being with you. Willie Jackson, who is
Who's the Labor Party's multi development spokesperson. Just gone six
minutes away from six on.
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Speaker 2 (33:25):
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is joining you next. Mike. What's on the show this morning?
Speaker 4 (33:33):
We will be covering the Seymour situation, of course, and
being a Tuesday. Ryan, you know what tuesday is? Prime
Minister's Prime minister Tuesday is what it is? Seven seven,
twenty five to twenty five to two.
Speaker 2 (33:44):
All right, there we go. I'll be back tomorrow. Have
a great day everyone.
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