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Speaker 1 (00:01):
The Issues, US.
Speaker 2 (00:03):
The interviews and the inside. Ryan Bridge new for twenty
twenty four on the early edition with Smith City, New
Zealand's furniture beds and a play at store.
Speaker 1 (00:14):
Ustorgs'd be good morning.
Speaker 3 (00:16):
It is Wednesday, Humpday Debate Day two. Former US Ambassador
Mark Gilbert joins us. Gilbert, I should say, joins us
on that before six population in some towns could have
after Winstone Pop's closure banning phones for kids, How will
you police it if you're a parent? Plus, after five
point thirty seventeen hundred prisoners are being released today. Don't worry.
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It's in the UK, not here. It's to combat overcrowding
in prisons and we know how well that went for US.
Gavin Gray is our UK correspondent after the News the agenda.
It is Wednesday, the eleventh of September. Great to have
your company. Nineteen people have died following an Israeli strike
in southern gazas humanitarians. This is according to the Hamas
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Health Ministry.
Speaker 4 (01:02):
We have eyewitnesses who are saying that they walk up
to the sound of between four and six missiles heading
the camp, setting tents on fire.
Speaker 3 (01:14):
Terrible at least one hundred and twenty seven people have
died in Vietnam after a typhoon struck northern regions of
the country. Fifty four people still missing. It had previously
struck China and the Philippines, leaving twenty four dead. It
is debate day today. Kamala Harris is bringing friends to
Philly with her. She's going to troll Trump, inviting some
of his former officials, former Trump White House Communications director
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Anthony Scaramucci. Scaramucci is going to be going. He served
only ten days before he was fired, so really, what
value can he add. She's inviting them as guests and
surrogates because there's no audience obviously, but you can as
a candidate, you can bring guests or surrogates. So she
is bringing two of those. Debate kicks off one pm.
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You can watch on YouTube. Australia, Peter Dutton is channeling
Tony Abbott, going hard after Labor and Albanesi on a
carbon tax attack.
Speaker 5 (02:08):
I'm not going to destroy the economy and send families
bankrupt in the process of decarbonizing our economy.
Speaker 3 (02:18):
It sounds like somebody's thinking practically. At least Dutton Montster
built six nuclear reactors to limit power outages. Eight after five.
Speaker 2 (02:26):
On your radio and online on iHeartRadio Early edition with
Ryan Bridge and Smith City, New Zealand's Furniture Beds and
a playing store.
Speaker 3 (02:35):
On News Talk z B, we'll get two cycle ways
in a second. Also, whether you could be going one
hundred and twenty k's on a motorway in New Zealand. Well,
that's got you excited, hasn't it. First though, Wilworst is
fighting back. This is a really interesting business desk piece.
Wilwast is fighting back. So you had the ComCom come
out and the groceries are the grocery Commissioner coming out
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and saying they're profiting, their margins are up, grocery guys
bad and there's no meaningful competition. And this is what
they said. They said there's no meaningful competition after the
introduction of the Grocery Industry Competition Act or GEEKER as
I'm calling it. So that was Labour's act that they introduced.
It was quite rushed, quite hurried. Anyway, they said no
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meaningful competition after the introduction of GEEKER. They said that
retail margins are up three point one percent on non
fresh point four percent on fresh you know, naughty, bad,
evil supermarkets. Anyway, the supermarkets have come back. Warl worst
is saying the report used old data. All the data
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used for the margins predates that new law. So how
can you say the law wasn't making meaningful differences to
competition if you don't have the figures relevant to the
period after the law was enacted. Doesn't make any sense.
According to wol Wis, I couched that with According to
wo Wis, they also said, and this is interesting, wages
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for their supermarkets up nineteen percent over two years. The
return on average capital was overstated, they say by the ComCom.
It actually dropped from fourteen percent in twenty nineteen to
six percent in twenty twenty three. They now say their
return on average capital so what they're getting out from
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what they're putting in is two percent. Now that doesn't
sound good to me. I'm no expert. But worryingly, in
this article they say, given current market conditions, Woolworths has
very little appetite to invest in New Zealand. Now if
our so called two headed duopoly, the monsters who sit
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back and profit and you know, rake in the cash,
won't invest here. What hope do we have of a new.
Speaker 1 (04:54):
Entrant Rambridge from the Western.
Speaker 3 (05:00):
Yes, it is five minutes, sorry, eleven minutes after five,
I should say. On News Talks it'd be lots more
to come. We're going to talk phone banning phones. If
you're a parent, how would you actually police that? Do
you have a cupboard that you would lock the phones in?
That's what I would do? I mean, or some of
you lock the children? I guess probably free proably both.
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We'll get to that just before the news at five
thirty News Talks, he'd be.
Speaker 2 (05:27):
Ryan Bridge you for twenty twenty four on early edition
with Smith City, New Zealand's furniture beds and a playing store.
Speaker 1 (05:35):
News Talks, it'd be great.
Speaker 3 (05:36):
To have you with me fourteen after five News Talks,
he'd be text me nine to nine two and I'll
read your text out on ear if there's no profanity.
We'd love to hear your thoughts this morning on how
You because we're going to talk about it just after,
just before the news, how you police your kid's mobile phone?
Speaker 1 (05:53):
News?
Speaker 3 (05:53):
Because it's obviously doing damage to them right now. Though
it's going to be a hard job policing these two.
A big day in the US. The first presidential debate
since Joe Biden quit the race. So I guess it's
Trump's second presidential debate of this election season, his first
against Kamala Harris, what is going to happen and does
it really matter? Mark Gilbert joins US. He's a former
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US ambassador and Democrat Party member. He's joining us from
Park City, Utah. This morning. Mark, Good morning, thanks for
being on the show.
Speaker 6 (06:23):
Good morning, Ryan Kiyota.
Speaker 3 (06:25):
Tell me what's your read? Here? Is what happens today?
Going to move the dial make a difference?
Speaker 6 (06:34):
I believe that it could. First of all, this is,
as you just mentioned, the vice president's first presidential debate,
and a lot of the polling shows that many people
across the unit as they really don't know her. So
this will be a great opportunity for her to be seen.
And the expectation is that this will exceed more than
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fifty nine in people, maybe as many as sixty million
people will watch.
Speaker 3 (07:04):
Harris says Trump is not burdened by telling the truth.
Does that matter? I mean, he's been elected previously, we
know he's got form in that area. Do people care?
Does it matter if he's not trying to tell the truth.
Should she try and fact Chickenen like Hillary Clinton did.
Speaker 6 (07:24):
I think she will, and I think this is different
than twenty sixteen. You know, back in twenty sixteen, he
was seen into an outsider. His independence was seen through
the kind of comments that he made and actually a
little bit of a bullying with Secretary Clinton. I don't
believe that that is how people look at it today,
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because he has said some things especially that people just
look at and go, oh my god, I can't possibly
be true. So I do think it will make a difference,
But of course it will matter how the Vice president
addresses that, whether she fax checks in in real time
or basically says, you know, here you go, that's just
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another lie. Let me tell everyone what the real truth is.
Speaker 3 (08:13):
How vulnerable is she on the border and inflation that
incumbency issue that she's got from being attached to Biden.
Speaker 6 (08:22):
So the border probably would have been her largest negative
issue until the President told the Republican Party to take
the bill that their party actually negotiated and throw it
out because he wanted it as a campaign issue. So
I believe that that's something that is actually backfired for him,
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and the numbers at the border have dramatically closed. As
far as how people see which party's fault, it is,
as a matter of fact, a lot of people see
it as both parties fault and that's something that I
personally agree with.
Speaker 3 (09:00):
It's hard to see how it could be anything, but
given the numbers over over so many different presidencies. Right, Mark,
thank you very much for joining us this morning. Really
appreciate your time and enjoy the debate. Mark Gilbert, former
US Ambassador and Democrat Party member, joining us from Park City, Utah.
You can catch that debate on here in New Zone.
You can actually watch it on YouTube. I've discovered from
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one o'clock this afternoon, seventeen after five coming up next,
your kids and their phones? Would you realistically would you
be able to enforce a ban nine to ninety two
the number to text eighteen after five?
Speaker 2 (09:36):
The news you need this morning and the in depth
analysis early edition with Ryan Bridge and Fifth City, New
Zealand's furniture beds and a playing store.
Speaker 1 (09:45):
News Talk said, be.
Speaker 3 (09:46):
I'll get to this idea of one hundred and twenty
kilometers in our speed limits for new roads in New
Zealand in just a second. But first the Aussies. The
government there it has decided to ban the use of
social media apps like TikTok, Snapchat, Instagram, Facebook for children
the age limit don't know yet still but to be decided.
The legislation will be introduced by the end of the year.
They say, our Prime minister City is open to looking
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at this. How do you police it? Nathan Wallace is
a parenting expert and he's with us this morning. Nathan,
good morning, Good morning, right, how are you mate, I'm
very well, thank you. Good idea bad idea for a ban.
Speaker 7 (10:20):
I think it's a good idea. I mean, I know
it seems like the horses bolted already, but there's long
correlation between our mental health crisis and how social media
is contributing to that. And you know people can't access counseling.
People on the phone, you stilly actually trying to get
access counseling and trying to get an ADHD diagnosis though
I told it was either two and a half grand
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to see someone or a year and a half wait.
So if we take the health crisis from the other end,
if we ban things like social media, that could be
one of the major causes of our our mental health
crisis with teenagers support.
Speaker 3 (10:52):
It Okay, these days, I'm like, who doesn't have ADHD?
Speaker 1 (10:57):
Is is it possible?
Speaker 3 (10:59):
Can phones call ADHD?
Speaker 1 (11:02):
No?
Speaker 7 (11:03):
Not really ADHD. It's hard to diagnose ADHD because it's
very similar to trauma, you know, I'm basically the brain
just responds to stress in a similar way. So whether
that is trauma, whether it's ADHD, whether you're grieving because
your grandmother's dying, the brain responds in a similar way.
So it's hard to say exactly what is ADHD.
Speaker 3 (11:22):
Vaping, but yeah, vaping and drinking. Obviously kids can't do it,
but they still do. Do you see this as another
one that would fall into that category? Are you shouldn't
it's illegal? But actually they do.
Speaker 7 (11:33):
Anyway, Absolutely, And I think lots of people are going
to do social media anyway because they've had a whole
generation of kids who've got used to doing social media.
But when you make it illegal, you do send a
clear message that this is dangerous because a lot of
people now let their kids drink under a team, you know,
let their kids vape, So you're going to get people
that do it anyway. But I still think it's a
good message to make it illegal and say, look it
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just because a warning flag to people. This is a problem,
This is a cause of concern.
Speaker 3 (12:00):
How old should a kid be before they get a phone?
Speaker 7 (12:05):
Oh it's hard to say, isn't it. I'm an ideal world.
Sixteen Yeah, and you've got two years, well actually sixteen,
two years of your parents helping you to manage it
before you're eighteen and they have to manage it by yourself.
Speaker 3 (12:16):
Couldn't agree with you more. Nathan, thank you very much
for being with us this morning, so early as well.
Nathan Wallace, parenting expert, just gone twenty two minutes after five.
Good morning, Ryan, says Marie. I use an app on
my phone called Arrow, which allows me to limit the
screen time for kids, block apps from individual phones, etc.
In fact, I can even block the husband if he
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annoys me. Sounds like a great app, Marie. Another says,
what age are the kids? As a parent, don't buy
your kid a phone or buy them a dumb phone
so they can only ring or text. My mum wouldn't
let me get a phone when I was a kid.
I think I must. I think she will. Actually she
wouldn't let me get one until I was sixteen. But
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I bought one with my paper run money a little
earlier than that and just didn't tell her. What she
didn't know didn't really hurt her. And actually she used
to have a rule at the dinner table you weren't
allowed to use your phone, you know, which is fair enough.
That's a pretty basic standard rule. I would have thought
you will have that in your house as well. Ninety
two number to text. However, the other day mum came
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to stay. What was she doing at the dinner table
on her bloody phone? Anyway, We'd love to hear your
rules at home. Nineteen nine twers number of text twenty
four minutes after five The early.
Speaker 2 (13:35):
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Speaker 3 (13:39):
Me a wild, bizarre and highly entertaining media scrum in
Wellington yesterday, culminating with an MP saying he didn't mind
swimming in other people's sewerage. Yes, human waste. I'm talking
here about the chaotic caucus run of one labor MP
for Ohadio, Greg O'Connor. He was asked, first of all,
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why Wellington's dying? You know you've seeing that in the
news with the cafes closing down et cetera.
Speaker 5 (14:05):
Why when you walk along the waterfront, there's not enough
to do along that waterfront. I mean there's been stopping
things from happening. I mean you can walk a long
way there. There's no cafe. There's no way to actually
get a coffee.
Speaker 3 (14:17):
Greg, Greg, Greg, Why don't they just put more cafes in?
He says, Well, these things require business investment and profit
to be had, don't they could? The reason that there
aren't enough flat whites down at Queen's Wharf be because
one labor heights the minimum wage beyond affordability. Too, they
help drive up inflation with unrestrained government spending. And three
they told everyone to stay home and out of the CBD,
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out of the office. So far so normally, I guess,
and MP struggling to grasp the realities of running a
small business. Here's where it all gets a bit messy,
though literally, he says. The solution is to get more people, tourists, residents, whoever,
get them down to the waterfront. Get them down to
Queen's Wharf, he says, And a reporter kindly points out
that the water is often not safe swimming because of
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human waste. Are you talking about the same harbor that
gets polluted when there's heavy rain due to the bed places.
Speaker 5 (15:06):
Don't stop people swimming and there doesn't know, Hey, that's
a typical not so why you look at the where
else can you swim off Oriental Bay Beach?
Speaker 8 (15:17):
Well, they don't advise you to swim in there because
the sewage in the harbor, And we're.
Speaker 5 (15:21):
Rising people not to do that for years, so people
have done it.
Speaker 9 (15:24):
Look, ok, would would you swim in the harbor of
the sewageon there?
Speaker 3 (15:30):
Don't worry about it, just jump in. Don't worry about
the feces. Then here's the best part. Let's blame the
journalists for reporting on the wastewater in the first place.
Speaker 5 (15:38):
Is there a warning at the moment? I don't know
you guys. Is there a warning at the moment? So
why bringing this up there? So it's well? Intent positive?
Is that you can go swimming well in in harbor today?
Is that what I'm hearing from you? Good report that, guys?
Speaker 3 (15:55):
The world According to Greg O'Connor, you can't beg welling's
on a good day. A good day being one with
no wind and no rain, no pooh in your harbor,
and perhaps a coffee cart down at the waterfront. I
think there should be a new slogan, Wellington take a
chance on me. Twenty eight after five, Bryan Bridge, you
might have seen this in the news, and if you have,
I'm concerned for you. It's the fake news slash scam
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news alert. This morning there's an imposter web page apparently
warning people that the Prime Minister has canceled New Zealand
superannuation and senior citizens are losing their minds poor things.
Age Concerns says it's a fake story. It's designed to
look like the Herald website so that you know, sort
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of passes for the muster. I suppose some people in
the far North are saying, has Christopher Luxen canceled the pinsure? No,
he hasn't. It's a fake news story and it's asking
you to pay four hundred and ten dollars to secure
your super which should be the giveaway. I would have
thought anyway, we're talking about banning kids from social media.
Speaker 10 (17:00):
Be the elderly, honestly.
Speaker 1 (17:29):
The first word on the News of the Day early edition.
Speaker 2 (17:32):
With Ryan Bridge and Smith City, New Zealand's furniture bids
and a playing store news talk Sippy.
Speaker 3 (17:50):
Good Morning, New Zealand, twenty four away from Sex. Welcome
to your Wednesday morning. Great to have you with me.
And do you want the good news all the bad news?
We'll get to our reporters. Well, this is not bad news.
We'll get to our reporter and just a few seconds
who are with us live around the country. Also our
UK correspondent Gavin Gray. They're letting seventeen hundred prisoners out,
releasing them all today because the prison's are overcrowded. How's
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that going to go? Right now? Though? The good news,
the bad news. The good news. Apparently most of us
support a one hundred and twenty kilometer in our speed
limit on highways. Yes, they surveyed, well, got people to
put submissions in on this idea, and half of the
five thousand submitters supported it. Imagine that going one hundred
and twenty ks cruising on the motorways up and down
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New Zealand, how.
Speaker 10 (18:36):
Much quicker we would get places?
Speaker 3 (18:37):
However, the bad news, roads will be and how many
of you do it anyway? Be honest, roads will be
more expensive to build if we do this, new safety
engineering standards will be required. They would need to be straighter, flatter,
with the wider shoulders. The reality is we can barely
get roads built for one hundred kilometers an hour, so
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maybe we should be realistic. A road, any road, is
better than a fast road, and that's probably all we
can hope for at the moment. Twenty two away from
the six Crayan Bridge, right, we're going to Callum first,
who's in Dunedan Calm. Good morning morning, Ryan, Good to
have you on the show. Tell us about this futuristic
public transport that's been dreamed up. It's been dreamed up
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by New Zealand company Woosh, and it's a gondola cable
car style form of transportation where that riders would be
elevated above traffic and enclosed cabins taking them from A
to B and woosher working towards a pilot of this
form of transportation in Queenstown. CEO Chris Ellingson's told us
the technology has already been fully funded and they're on
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track to get the last funding in place for this
pilot early next year.
Speaker 11 (19:47):
He says, for Queenstown this would solve some pretty significant
traffic issues in a cost effective way, and the pilot
would be the first stage of a wider city project.
Speaker 3 (19:57):
Well, and so it's just you and the gondola. There's
no one it's a one person gondola. I think this
room for more than one in some of the cabins.
But it's an on demand style type form of transportation.
You'd have an app and you'd dial it up and
it would come to your aid and wash off.
Speaker 1 (20:15):
You go.
Speaker 3 (20:16):
All right, how's it we there today, Callum.
Speaker 11 (20:19):
You mainly find high cloud develops this afternoon and northerally
this morning the high seventeen.
Speaker 3 (20:24):
Thank you very much. Clear sherewards with us in christ
Church this morning. Good morning, Clear, good morning. Good to
have you on the show again. The significant milestone for
christ Church's post quake infrastructure.
Speaker 9 (20:34):
Yes, Ryan, this is the construction of the city's Olympic
sized swimming pool, which is officially underway. The fifty meter
competition pool is one of the key features of our
new metro sports facility, Padda Kyorday. This is the one
that was initially meant to open in twenty twenty one,
but it has been plagued by seriously ongoing delays and setbacks.
The pool installer Lea Jacobs says this pool has five
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hundred panels held together by about bolt. He says it's
very versatile. There's also a movable boom which will allow
council to transform it into two twenty five meter polls
as needed. The facility, pado Chiod is still due to
open late next year. At the stage, it's.
Speaker 3 (21:13):
Good news clear you're weather today.
Speaker 9 (21:15):
It's frosty to start in christ Jews, but should clear
to find northeasterlies easing the highest fourteen.
Speaker 3 (21:20):
Thank you very much, Max, Minji Max and Wellington Max.
Excuse me, in fact you should front the new ad
campaign for attracting tourists to Wellington Max, because because it
sounds like Wellington needs it well, as.
Speaker 12 (21:39):
You played on the program earlier. Some very odd comments
from Labour's Greg O'Connor regarding the declining state of our economy.
More cafes should just open. Everyone in Wellington needs to
be more positive. We the news media need to do
better running more positive stories. And even if there's a
sewage in the harbor, we shouldn't be afraid of taking
a dirty dip. Tori Faro, the Mayor, speaking a little
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more sensibly yesterday, she acknowledging really for the first time
that I can relect how much disruption all the construction
work has had on businesses and will have going forward.
She says the Council is now looking into a business
support package for when the Golden Mile work gets underway.
That's along Courtley Place, Willis Street. Lambdon key. A little
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less sympathy though for the businesses that are closing or
losing money, blaming car parks at least partly being taken away.
Quite simply, she says she doesn't believe that's a factor
at all.
Speaker 3 (22:33):
Okay, well she was doing so well right un tilling
in here? Next weather today?
Speaker 12 (22:39):
Yeah, almost listening fine with southerleast thirteen the high Central brilliant.
Speaker 3 (22:43):
Thank you, Neva any Man as an Auckland, Hey, Neva,
good morning, big giant Heymart habig.
Speaker 8 (22:48):
Camart, Camart is coming, well, the biggest New Zealand's biggest kmart.
And where is it going? Auckland's Westgate. Everything goes to Westgate,
doesn't it. So the really big retail chain is building now.
This is six thousan seven hundred square meter store. So
that's going to go opposite Costco in a street yet
to be creative. But they've got a name for it.
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Maukey Place. That's what it's going to be called.
Speaker 13 (23:12):
Now.
Speaker 8 (23:12):
This top's the almost five thousand square meter store and
that's the one in Monaco. So it's going to be
the twenty eighth shop country wide. The good news that
will employ about two hundred and forty staff.
Speaker 3 (23:24):
Wow.
Speaker 8 (23:25):
Can you imagine the traffic though, That's what we were
just talking about before, and that Westgate once it's all done.
Speaker 3 (23:29):
Because you wouldn't go there on a Saturday, would you.
Interesting though, that's the same number of people who have
just been let go from the to the Windstone pop
International Mills in Repay's and that number all employed by
one shop in Auckland. Isn't that crazy?
Speaker 1 (23:46):
Yes?
Speaker 3 (23:46):
Yeah, but how long would you spend out there? You
drive out to Wisgate and you would just never leave.
Speaker 8 (23:51):
Well, that's it, I mean, and some people do that,
you know. I mean, I love Camus.
Speaker 3 (23:56):
People have gone miss.
Speaker 8 (23:57):
People have gone missing in the stores. The good thing
was us is it? Because we finish early. I wouldn't
go on the weekend, but you know I would go
after nine thirty am. I'd have my nap, my daily
nap a little bit later, so you and I we
could go to the store. We could probably go there
for like two or three hours.
Speaker 13 (24:14):
I'd lose you.
Speaker 8 (24:14):
You'd go one end, I'd go the other end.
Speaker 3 (24:16):
Well, no one would never see us again. As the
weather today never.
Speaker 8 (24:19):
Cloudy, isolated showers becoming fine this morning Auckland's high sixteen degrees.
Speaker 3 (24:23):
And then thank you our UK europe correspondent with us
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They're living seventeen hundred prisoners out of prison in England
and Wales today. This is to try and reduce over
crowd and Gavin Gray's our UK and Europe correspondent.
Speaker 14 (25:48):
Gavin indeed, yeah, Ryan, So all those prisoners been released
on a single day, which is raised a few eyebrows
because of course it'll be a real stretch to make
sure that there are just left out on the street
with nowhere to go and no help to try and
get back on their feet. But instead of people being
allowed at having served fifty percent of their sentence, the
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government has now reduced that to forty percent of their sentences.
The government is pointing out the offenders jailed for violent
offenses with the sentences of at least four years, sex
offenders and domestic abusers are not eligible for early released.
So who are these people? Well, a mix of different
criminal offenders here. But being released on license means the
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defenders must st adhere to well quite a few restrictions
for the rest of their sentence that could include a curfew,
could include being tagged and of course being supervised by
probation officers. However, some are saying that the victims of
those who have been released have not been warned early
enough that they were going to be released, which is
a concern for those who might have been stalked or
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maybe potentially if you've been abused by a partner or
so forth. So there are concerns about the numbers being
released and guess what, Raan, They'll be doing it all
again next month. Why because the jails are full and
I'm afraid to say they are almost at capacity. Just
at the time when the government has been tough with
all those that took part in the rum.
Speaker 3 (27:14):
Yeah, it sounds like a real problem. We did the
same thing here and it didn't go very well for us.
I can tell you that. Given tell us about this fine,
the two billion pounds that Google's been fined what for.
Speaker 14 (27:27):
Yeah, so they were fined for abusing the market dominance
of its shopping comparison service by Europe's top court, so
roughly four point two four point three billion New Zealand
dollars in a fine. The original fine was levied back
in twenty seventeen, but Google appealed. However, today it learned
(27:49):
it has lost and so therefore it is going to
go through. And it incidentally was the biggest ever find
the meeted out by the Commission that that has been
overtaken by a bigger fine also against Google. Google says
it's disappointed with the ruling and this brends an end
though to a very long running case. At the heart
(28:10):
of this case was the contention that Google made its
own shopping recommendations appear much more prominently than its rivals
when somebody went into search results. So Google had argued
that the case had no legal or economic merit, but
the European Commission decided that was not the case and
dismissed their appeal. And incidentally, if you think that's it,
(28:33):
well believe it or not. Actually, I think it shows
perhaps a direction of travel because the search giant has
amassed about eight billion euros of fines from the Commission
and other things are still going through cases in America,
cases in the UK, and the EU is also currently
investigating the firm over whether its preferences its own goods
(28:54):
and services over others in search results. And if found guilty, Yep,
you guessed it, it could be another big fine on
the way.
Speaker 3 (29:00):
Goodness me all right, Kevin. So criminals walk free and
Google gets a fine. That's how UK you're correspondent Gavin
Grade ten to six. Ryan Bridge sales for the electricity, gas,
waste and water services industry up thirty six percent in
the June quarter. That's on the same time last year.
This is from stats end Z. They put it down
(29:21):
to the energy crunch, So no rain for the lakes,
it's cold, we're using more electricity. The gas storage problem,
the gas issue. It comes on the back of the
Windstone Pulp international closures. Yesterday two hundred and thirty jobs
have been lost there. John Harvard is the Major Electricity
Users Group chair. He's with us this morning. John, Good morning,
(29:42):
Good morning. Just wanted to check with you. Are you
aware of any new mills or factories that are considering
closure because of this problem.
Speaker 15 (29:52):
Look, I think it's there's a number of businesses that
are under enormous strain at the moment, and you know,
their ongoing operation is an matter of almost daily consideration.
And I think the other thing we need to bear
in mind with Windstone Pulp is there's a lot of
businesses in that area that make their living from supporting
Windstone Pulp, and so their future at the moment is
highly uncertain as well.
Speaker 3 (30:13):
Yeah, we're talking about essentially about the potential decimation of
entire towns. Here. You've got two hundred and thirty jobs,
but then you look at that that's probably one thousand
people in terms of family members, et cetera. You know,
Aura Kuni data Hei, these have a population of two
thy three hundred.
Speaker 15 (30:33):
Yeah, it's absolutely devastating for that community, and I think
it really shines a light on how vulnerable that a
lot of our regional and provincial communities are too, things
like rapidly escalating wholesale electricity prices that undermine the viability
of the businesses that they depend on.
Speaker 3 (30:54):
This thirty six six percent increase, this is for the
journ court on the same time last year for electricity, gas,
waste and wastewater services. Is that significant?
Speaker 15 (31:03):
Yeah, it's absolutely significant. To put another sort of way
of looking at it, Ryan is for the period we're
looking at, starting in twenty sixteen. At that time, the
combined profits of the Ford gent Taylors was two hundred
and ninety seven million dollars. This year, the combined profits
of the for Gent Taylor's is one billion and eighty
five million dollars. So we've seen a massive increase in
(31:25):
the amount of profit these companies are making, and they're
not making any more electricity than they were eight years ago.
Speaker 3 (31:32):
So we shouldn't have partially privatized them.
Speaker 15 (31:36):
Well, I think we certainly had an argument that the
partial privatization has exacerbated a pre existing problem. The Commist
Commission back in two thousand and nine, so prior to
the partial float, found that New Zealanders were already paying
higher prices for electricity than they would if we had
a competitive market. And to give you a sense of
(31:57):
sort of what the scale of that is is sort
of between the electricity regulator, the electricity authority and private
investment companies that have sort of looked at this with
their modeling tools. As the estimate is New Zealand consumers
including households, are paying between one and two billion dollars
a year more than we should be for our electricity.
Speaker 3 (32:16):
Goodness me, John, thank you very much for that. Of course,
there's a task force that is currently looking at options.
We'll see how that goes over in Australia. As a
report earlier in the show, they are looking at nuclear,
you know, because you cannot rely on wind, solar and
hydro its intermittent, so you either need coal or gas
or nuclear. So there you go. Mike's here next six
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to six.
Speaker 1 (32:40):
Get ahead of the headlines.
Speaker 2 (32:42):
Ryan Bridge you for twenty twenty four on early edition
with Smith City, New Zealand's furniture beds and a playing store.
Speaker 1 (32:49):
News talks be four to six.
Speaker 3 (32:51):
News talks said be on Windstone pulp closing and a
huge kmart set to open in Auckland. Steve says two
hundred and forty workers gone from production to consumption. Caroline says,
came out as a great employer. I have several Farno
who work there and they absolutely love it. Mike's with
us now, Good morning, Good morning.
Speaker 13 (33:08):
Where's Mike Ryan, head of Winstone. Where's he? Well, so
he makes a big announcement.
Speaker 16 (33:13):
One of the obligations you have, I think, is that
when you make the sort of and it's not about
just the business, it's about the region, it's about the country,
it's about the economy. It's a much wider story. Where
are the people who run this place explaining it? Because
here's my suspicion. As easy as it is to blame
the power and it is easy, I think it's got
as much to do with the price of wood and
(33:33):
pulp and paper and all the other problems in that industry,
and you can just go, oh, there's escape yard.
Speaker 13 (33:38):
Don't blame the power companies. So we'll have a look
at that this morning.
Speaker 3 (33:41):
I take it without Mike Ryhan, without Mike Ryan. See tomorrow.
Speaker 2 (33:48):
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