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September 12, 2024 34 mins

On the Early Edition with Ryan Bridge Full Show Podcast for Friday 13th of September, the government's revealed how they will reach its health targets, but health workers are raising concerns. Kerri Nuku from the Nurses Organisation joins the show to discuss. 

Extra coal and gas was needed over winter to generate electricity with low lake levels in the South Island, should we be concerned about the reduction in renewable generation? The University of Otago's Dr Kimberly O'Sullivan talks to Ryan. 

The first privately funded spacewalk has ended successfully. Is this the start of space tourism? University of Auckland's Head of Space Operations Chris Jackson joins the show. 

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
The issues, the interviews and the inside Ryan Bridge new
for twenty twenty four on the early edition with Smith City,
New Zealand's furniture bands and a player store.

Speaker 2 (00:14):
News Talk said, be.

Speaker 3 (00:15):
Good morning, it is six after five year on news
Talk said Bee coming up this morning before six Nurses
not happy with Shane Besi's new health targets. Why billionaire
walks in space wearing weird suit. We'll tell you why
those suits are going to be crucial for spaceflight in
the future. Also, the King's guards bear skin caps. You

(00:36):
would have seen them if you've been to the UK.
Guess how much they cost. Kevin Gray out of the UK.
Plus what has been heating your heat pump this winter?
All ahead.

Speaker 1 (00:46):
The agenda.

Speaker 3 (00:47):
It is Friday, the first, thenth of September. Harvey Weinstein
has been indicted on new charges. These are sex crime
charges in New York this time, but exact details not
revealed until he is formally charged. Weinstein was in court
today after being transferred from prison to hospital for heart surgery.
Earlier this week, the big bowing backlog affecting all of

(01:08):
our air travel. Around thirty thousand Boeing workers have started
voting on a new contract. Possible strike action could happen
as soon as tomorrow. Currently, the proposal, as we said
the other day, a twenty five percent wage increase, though
union's not happy. If they can pay a CEO thirty
three million a year, is that the best they can
really do.

Speaker 2 (01:26):
We're still prioritizing what we have to do.

Speaker 3 (01:28):
We're still in within compliance. We're just making a lot
more noise. A small group of lawyers and activists are
demanding an investigation into whether our spies are guilty of
aiding international war crimes in Gaza. Do they have evidence? No,
a smoking gun.

Speaker 4 (01:45):
No.

Speaker 3 (01:46):
The letter just says that because we're a member of
the Five Eyes, it is plausible to suggest that we
might have done something. I would have thought you'd need
more than a hunch to investigate something like that. What
an awesome display yesterday of Kiewei's and kindness. I know
we hate that word, but it was when the Black
Ferns met King Charles and gave the old boy a

(02:07):
big hug.

Speaker 4 (02:11):
Hug? Why not?

Speaker 3 (02:15):
What excellent ambassadors for New Zealand, respectful, humble. Always good
to ask a monarch first before you go in for
a hug. I would have thought get ahead of the headlines.

Speaker 1 (02:25):
Ryan Bridge you for twenty twenty four on early edition
with Smith City, New Zealand's furniture beds and a planet store.

Speaker 2 (02:32):
News Talk said, be.

Speaker 3 (02:34):
Also bad news for Zelensky overnight, good news for Putin
the Russian troops that have been fighting to try and
recapture parts of the Curse region. Obviously, Zolensky and his
crew went in there. They have managed to recapture several
key villages in the Curse regions. This is a significant
blow to Zelensky and his plans to you know, to
try and force Russia's hand by going into the territory.

(02:58):
The Kremlin has launched a counter and it seems to be,
at least at this stage, it seems to be having
some success. It has just gone nine minutes after five
year on news Talk said be, I would love to
hear from you this morning on this story. Nine two
nine two is the number to text. We're going to
paint the Auckland Harbor Bridge. It's going to take eight
to ten years now. Leo, who's our producer here, has

(03:22):
been building a fence for what seems like for as
long as I've been on this show. So that's like
two months and Leo has been building and his whole family,
but the sounds of it have been building this fence
for two months, and I just think, you know, is
it a border wall?

Speaker 2 (03:38):
You know?

Speaker 3 (03:39):
Is it the Great Wall of China that you're building?

Speaker 2 (03:41):
Leo?

Speaker 3 (03:41):
Anyway seems to be taking forever, and this paint job
on the Alton Harbor Bridge is going to take eight
to ten years. Is there anything wrong with the current
paint job?

Speaker 5 (03:51):
You know?

Speaker 3 (03:52):
I would love to know if anyone has any insight
on this. Are they doing it to try and seal
the bridge from you know, weather from etc. Or is
it just a cosmetic thing, Because if it's a cosmetic thing,
just leave it. It's a bridge. I don't expect it
to look that pretty. I've never looked at that bridge
and thought that needs a paint job. You know, plenty

(04:13):
of things around my house I look at it and
think that needs a paint job, but not the Auckland
Harbor Bridge. So if you have any insight, nineteen nine
two is a number of text. But also I'm really
keen to hear from you, because Friday morning, I'm really
keen to hear what job have you started? In your
house and how long has it taken you? Is any
can anyone set a record for us this morning? Nine
two nine two is the number of text It's going

(04:34):
to cost a lot of money. I can't tell you
exactly how much. At this point they expect the traffic
will be business as usual in Nelson. In Nelson they
have made a new rule about sandwich boards. So I know,
I don't really have a strong opinion on sandwich boards.
You may, I don't really mind. They don't look to

(04:55):
me like pollution. A lot of people say, oh, it's
just gross to have all of these advertisements out on
the path, not really caring about that. People who are
blind or low vision obviously trip over them. And I'm
not blind, so I don't have that problem. So I imagine
for some people they are very annoying, but not for
me anyway. And Nelson they have banned them from putting them,

(05:17):
from putting them near the road on the footpath, so
you have to have a clear way for people who
are blind to walk through, which seems reasonable. They have
banned any flags except for the local council, who are
allowed to fly their flags on the pavement, just not
anybody else. Typical I know twelve minutes after five.

Speaker 1 (05:43):
On your radio and online on iHeartRadio Early Edition with
Ryan Bridge and Smith City, New Zealand's Furniture Beds and
a Plying Store.

Speaker 3 (05:52):
News Talk z B fourteen after five. Welcome to your
Friday morning. Great to have your company. Lots of texts
coming in on the Auckland Harbor Bridge, which they're going
to paint and will take eight to ten years to
finish the job. Ryan, The Harbor Bridge painting is preventative maintenance.
Large steel structures need frequent recoating to prevent corrosion, which
if found would be a whole lot more expensive to fix.

(06:14):
So that makes sense. Ryan. Apparently this is from Cody.
It only took them four years to build the Golden
gate Bridge. Is that true? Leo says it's true. So
four years to build the Golden gate Bridge and eight
to ten years to paint house. Ryan Bridge, she's gone
fourteen after five. We've got some more to add to

(06:35):
the country's energy crisis. New data from MB shows between
April and June this year, extra coal and gas was
needed to generate enough power. Not surprising, I suppose given
recent coverage low hydro late levels meant that electricity generated
from renewable sources drops to eighty one point three percent
of total generation. That's eight point six percent lower compared

(06:55):
at the same time last year, and for the first
time since June twenty twenty one, coal generated more electricity
than wind. Senior research fellow at the University of Otago,
doctor Kimberly Osullivan's with me this morning. Good morning, Thanks
for being with me. What's I suppose this is just
part of the course, right when we don't have enough

(07:15):
in the lakes, we have to go somewhere, We have
to go somewhere.

Speaker 5 (07:20):
Ryan, You're right, but I really think that it's time
to stop looking underground to the solution to our problems.
It's gotten cheaper and cheaper for us to put solar
on houses, and that's what we really need to start
doing urgently if we want to solve this problem.

Speaker 3 (07:33):
So every house should have a solar panel.

Speaker 5 (07:36):
Well, I think we should start with those that can
least afford electricity and help them out, because we know
that when people can't afford enough electricity at home, they're
really doing it tough and we end up spending more
and more money on treating them in hospital when they
don't need to be there.

Speaker 3 (07:53):
So subsidizing solar panels for lower income households is what
you're saying, isn't absolutely will we Okay, let's assume that
all of our low income households have a solar panel
on them. We will still have we will still have
parts of the winter where we won't have enough to
cover ourselves. Right, that's the problem.

Speaker 5 (08:14):
We'll still be a bit short. But if we start
doing things like that, as well as continuing to insulate
our home so that we need to use less energy
than what we currently do in order to stay warm
and healthy at home, then that would go a long
way to solving our problem. The other thing about coal
and gas, fossil fuel, it's expensive now, but it's expensive

(08:35):
in the future too. It's not a climate safe solution,
and we're seeing more in my extreme weather events from
climate change. That's only going to continue if we keep
burning fossil fuels.

Speaker 3 (08:44):
So you're saying we need to reduce consumption as in
what freeze and you know, sit in the cold.

Speaker 5 (08:49):
No, absolutely not. What we need to do is they're
smarter about that. We can build housing, and we can
spect our houses so that they don't need to use
as much energy to keep us warm at home. At
the moment. What we're seeing when we measure temperatures inside
our homes is that they track really closely to their
outdoal temperatures. So in the winter, we really need to

(09:10):
use a lot of energy to keep our houses warmer,
and it doesn't need to be that way. We could
make our houses warmer by increasing the insulation, by retrefiting
insulation on existing homes, by increasing the technology that we
use to make new homes more efficient, and then we
could put solar on top. We could solve a lot
of problems that way.

Speaker 3 (09:30):
Yeah, however, that all sounds great, but we've had subsidies
to do this before. Not all houses have been done.
I mean, look at this. The government, the state is
the worst actually at this in terms of insulating the
state houses. But what you're suggesting will take time, will
take significant investment. In the meantime, we have to use
gas and coal, don't we, And surely gas is better

(09:52):
than coal.

Speaker 5 (09:54):
I think gas is slightly better than coal, but not
a lot. It's also expensive. It also takes time, and
if we're going to keep looking underground for new gas,
that's going to take a really long time. We've got
solutions that are right here. If we ramped up what
we know that we can do now and did a
better job, going harder with the insulation and putting even

(10:15):
more into our home so that we need to use
less energy, then that would go a really long way
to helping to solve this problem. If we put solar on,
then we're going to go even further. And there are
contents already in place for the big gent tailors to
be building so they could get going with this problem
as well and start to make better renewable solutions for us.

Speaker 3 (10:37):
All Right, Doctor Kimberly O. Saloman, thank you very much
for your time this morning. Senior search fellow at the
University of Otago says the prob the solution rather to
our energy wose is to solar panel on the roof,
insulation in the walls. And Bob's your uncle nine to
ninety two to text.

Speaker 1 (10:55):
News and views you trust to start your day is
Billy Addition with Ryan Ridge and Smith City, New Zealand's
furniture Beds and a flying Store.

Speaker 2 (11:04):
You talk, Sibby.

Speaker 3 (11:05):
Lots of texts coming in on our previous guest and
solar energy the solution to all of our woes. We'll
get to those in just a second right now. Though
Polaris Dawn mission successful, a dar Devil billionaire turned astronaut
has floated his way into the history books overnight conducting
the world's first privately funded spacewalk. Jared Isaacman, along with

(11:28):
SpaceX's Sarah Gillis, launched into space about a week ago
on the Falcon nine rocket, and last night they conducted
a two hour walk outside their capsule.

Speaker 5 (11:38):
Back at home, we all have.

Speaker 3 (11:39):
A lot of work to year, but from here first
sure looks.

Speaker 6 (11:43):
Like a perfect world.

Speaker 3 (11:45):
Chris Jackson is the University of Auckland head of space Operations. Chris,
good morning, Good morning Ryan. How significant is this a
privately funded spacewalk?

Speaker 7 (11:57):
Yeah, well, there's been quite a lot of i'll say
advances in private space space tourism over the past five
or ten years, I guess so, and each mission has
been progressing. So getting outside the capsule is actually quite
a big achievement. You know, there's quite a lot of
danger involved with it, and yeah, technically I think it's

(12:18):
quite a big achievement, and you know, it progresses things
for SpaceX and for humanity space I guess quite a
long way in that SpaceX want to go to Mars,
and space suits and the space walk type you know,
is all part of it.

Speaker 3 (12:34):
Yeah, the space suit that they're wearing a lot of
talk about that slim down it's almost like a wetsuit.
It's that title their body nowhere near as bulky is
the NASA ones we're used to seeing, right.

Speaker 7 (12:45):
Yeah, absolutely, And I mean the space suit's quite you know,
quite critical. We obviously think about the I say that
the breathing environment that it obviously provides, but the thermal
environment in space is quite extreme and regulating temperature that
has no air around the outside of the suit is
quite critical. So testing that out is you know, quite

(13:06):
a significant step forward. And making it easier for astronauts
to do work outside of capsules with a smaller suit
is something they want about to do, to do different things,
to say on the Moon, mining and things like that
that they want about to get to.

Speaker 3 (13:22):
He won't say how much he's spent to get up there.
Do you have any idea of what it would cost
to do something like this?

Speaker 7 (13:30):
Well, yeah, I don't know, And I mean he's put
together quite a program, so you know he's going to
be spending a lot of money. But yeah, it certainly
you know, tens of hundreds of millions of dollars I
would expect, I mean a satellite launch just a Falcon
nine launches, you know, in the order of well, let's
say some around about one hundred million new zelland dollars,

(13:50):
so and a manned launches is a lot.

Speaker 3 (13:53):
More than that. Just finally, there are currently nineteen people
in space, which is apparently a record number. How many
is the crowd? Do you reckon up there?

Speaker 2 (14:03):
Well?

Speaker 7 (14:04):
I think it's only going to start to increase. You
know that there's a lot more stuff that people want
to do in space. As I say, you know, NASA
going to the Moon, and it was soon in a
year or two time that that program's drifting a little bit,
but you know they want to populate the Moon and
obviously use that as a stepping stone for getting to Mars.
So yeah, this is only going to be the start

(14:24):
of you know, a lot more people in space and
a lot more different places in space as well.

Speaker 3 (14:28):
Fascinating stuff. Chris, thank you very much for that. Chris Jackson,
University of Auckland head of Space Operations twenty four after
five Ryan Bridge. Interestingly, it was a Soviet Alexei Leonov
back in nineteen sixty five, on the eighteenth of March,
the first person ever to walk in space, way back
in nineteen sixty five. Isn't it incredible what they could
do back then? He was a Soviet, so of course

(14:50):
that wouldn't have gone down well in America. He spent
twelve minutes up there, and get this, as we go
to the break, his suit inflated while he was outside
of the craft. His suit inflated in the vacuum of space,
and he couldn't fit back in the door. You know
when you sometimes you eat so much you can't get

(15:11):
you can't get back in the doorway. That happened to
him in space. He had to manually release the year
from his spacesuit.

Speaker 1 (15:19):
The early edition Full The Show podcast on iHeartRadio powered
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Speaker 3 (15:25):
Karmala Harris was wearing audio earrings during the debate this week.
Did you hear about this? Yeah, she was cheating. They
looked like pearl earrings, but they also looked like audio earrings.
You can buy them and you can have your staff
feed you information and in real time during a debate,
they can coach you live. Yeah, it's real. I read

(15:46):
it on the Internet. And that's the problem, isn't it.
Some corners of the Internet there are you know, there's
the dog duck immigrant conspiracy thing, there's the transmigrant prisoner
sexchange thing, and now there's the Carmela Earrings Aids thing. Misinformation, disinformation, conspiracies,
whatever they are, they seem to be everywhere at the moment.
KRMLA Harris is pushing the conspiracies too. You remember she

(16:09):
said during the debate that Trump would implement Project twenty
twenty five if elected. He says he won't. Isn't that
the same thing? Just lies, just making stuff up? Don't
get me wrong. I do love a good conspiracy, specially
the bizarre ones you get out of the States, but
I would never go nuts online trying to prove one.
The Internet's screwed our brains in that way. What would

(16:31):
have once just been a word of mouth, rumor or
gossip now spreads and presents itself as real news and
has lapped up by millions of people. The biggest problem,
I reckon we have two cohorts of Internet users ones
who lived before the most of their lives without the Internet,
and they place a lot of faith and trust in
what's being written and said, because that's how we used
to operate, remember, And then there are those who are

(16:51):
URL natives who know full well the absolute crap and
the shite that you get online. Which is not to
say it's a generational thing, because people at both things
can get caught out. But we are supposedly living right
now in the enlightened age where the Internet would democratize
information make it accessible to all of us. We'd all
be better informed and better off with all the knowledge

(17:13):
of human history available at the click of a finger.
And what have we done with it? Cats, dogs, ducks
and audio airrings. Twenty nine after.

Speaker 1 (17:25):
Five The News you Need this morning and the in
depth analysis Early edition with Ryan Bridge and Smith City,
New Zealand's Furniture Beds and applying Store News Talk ZIB.

Speaker 8 (17:43):
You got me.

Speaker 3 (17:46):
Sugar Bood morning. It is Kenny far Away from six
News Talks z B. This is Jude Leaper. At two
o'clock this morning, she announced she's a big pop star
in the US, announced that she's coming to New Zealand
and your children or your grandchildren perhaps will love do
a leaper. She's very very popular. A friend of mine

(18:07):
took his kids, took his daughters and said she was brilliant,
like a classic pop star performance with all the outfit
changes and the backup dancers and everything, and she's got
a brilliant voice. Anyway, she's coming here spark Arena April
second next year as part of her tour. According to
Live Nation, here you go. Also this morning we have
a nurses organization reacting to Shane that it's his targets.

(18:30):
That's just before six Vincent mcavenni's in the UK for us.
We'll get to our reporters around the country in just
a couple of seconds, a few of your checks in
the meantime. This is about solar panels because we've been
using lots of coal to fill our energy void at
the moment. Ryan, your guest said that we shouldn't get
stuff from underground for power i e. Coal, but solar

(18:53):
panels will need mining for the materials. Ryan, with so
many very high apartment blos now, I'm just wondering, is
it only the people on the top floor who can
get a solar panel? I think sarcastically asks Lee, and
Michael says, Ryan, it sounds like your guest just wants
to drive rents up even further. Insulation and solar panels

(19:15):
don't come cheap. Brian Bridge reporters Cullum prop to first
and toned and Culum. Good morning Otaga University students. I'll
let you explain this one. It sounds a little bit creepy. Yeah, look,
morning Ryan.

Speaker 9 (19:31):
The university yesterday acknowledged that there have been several cases
of medical students acting inappropriately with cadavers and human remains
over the past three years, and like the university, the
Students Association is disappointed with the actions of these students.
In fact, they've been issued a stern request from the

(19:53):
association's president, that is Keigan Well.

Speaker 3 (19:56):
She says.

Speaker 9 (19:56):
The students need to understand human remains are important to
many cultures. She says, while this was only a small
minority of students to blame, those two blame need to
consider the mala their futures.

Speaker 3 (20:08):
Ats doctors carry do we know? Do we have any
idea what they actually did with them? Bodies? Not specifically? Okay,
probably best we don't. I guess house. The weather today Cullum.

Speaker 9 (20:20):
Yeah, occasional rain snow possible to three hundred meters today.
Thanks so a cold one easterly is developing this afternoon.

Speaker 3 (20:28):
Oh I think we might have lost column there. Thank
you Cullum. Let's go to Claire Sheward who's in christ Church. Clear,
good morning. You get to suffer as well. Round the
Bays is coming to Canterbury.

Speaker 10 (20:37):
I don't know if I'll be putting my hand up Ryan,
but look, the popular North Island Round the Bays is
headed south. This allows people to run, walk or stroll
along christ Church's coastline, all for a good cause. This
will happen for us in February. It's the second of
hebri Actually the good news is it will be superhero
themed and it's an eight point four kilometer course. It
runs from the estuary to the New Write and Pier.

(20:59):
I'm told they're a fast or a scenic route on offer.
Event director Henry mclernen says that it's all about donating
money to the Make a Wish Foundation. The plan is
to generate six wishes from across the country, with two
being awarded to people inside the Canterbury region.

Speaker 3 (21:16):
On that sounds good and weather today, Claire.

Speaker 10 (21:19):
Rainy and cold here as well. After a nice day yesterday,
the southerleis will turn easterly this afternoon, only nine degrees.

Speaker 3 (21:25):
Brilliant, Thank you and Max's in Wellington this morning, Max.
Community work in supervision for a man who assaulted police.

Speaker 8 (21:32):
Yeah morning Ryan. Twenty nine year old Stephen Richards was
sentenced in the hut Valley District Court yesterday after a
run in with police.

Speaker 3 (21:40):
This was last July.

Speaker 8 (21:41):
The cops pulled over a car. Richards was in the
passenger side and when the officer went around to speak
to him, he reached into his trousers and then shoved
his hand into the officer's face, rubbed it and asked
how his nether region smelled. Not in those words. He
was recording the interaction at the same time, so that's assaults,

(22:02):
not amusing for the police officer.

Speaker 3 (22:03):
Of course.

Speaker 8 (22:05):
He was also sentenced at the same time yesterday in
court for breaking someone else's nose in a different incidents.

Speaker 3 (22:10):
So clearly a bad egg.

Speaker 8 (22:12):
The judge told him he was lucky to be receiving,
as you say, community work instead of detention and twelve
months of supervision.

Speaker 3 (22:22):
Thank you. Max. Hou's the weather in Wellington.

Speaker 8 (22:23):
Today mostly cloudy, a few showers, a strong northerlyast fourteen
the high.

Speaker 3 (22:28):
Thank you neighbors and Auckland, good morning.

Speaker 6 (22:31):
You were so good there.

Speaker 3 (22:32):
I thought you were going to laugh.

Speaker 6 (22:34):
Now you're very very proficional.

Speaker 3 (22:36):
That's not doing as You can't laugh at something like that.
That's a police that's there's fensive and an insulting and
assaulting for a police officer, that's right.

Speaker 6 (22:44):
I mean, who would do that? I mean, I mean
there were stupid people.

Speaker 8 (22:48):
There are stupid.

Speaker 3 (22:49):
People are We wouldn't do that. We wouldn't do that.
And besides, it never smells nicely down there, looking for
smells lovely Happy Friday Friday. Hey water care this big
tunnel boring machine that's going on.

Speaker 6 (23:10):
Here that doesn't smell very good either. Well, look what's
happened is that? Get it together neither. This machine now
has completed three quarters of its journey. This is between
Auckland's Mangety and point Erin that's in Herne Bay. So
it's broken ground at Western Springs. Now that was originally
I just like saying, there's Central Interceptor's final destination. But

(23:34):
then the project was extended. So the sixteen point two
kilometer tunnel will collect waste storm water. It's going to
take it to Mungkety Wastewater Treatment Plant or good or
good and it's expected to significantly improve all the water
quality the beaches and waterways and reduce eighty percent of
wet weather overflows. So that's all good. So that project
is set to be finished by twenty twenty six.

Speaker 3 (23:54):
Okay, it's actually coming on schedule, that project. I'm watching
it closely. It's near my house, so I am all right.

Speaker 6 (24:03):
Is he a lot of noise down?

Speaker 3 (24:04):
There has been a lot of noise and they're doing
these big shafts, airshafts that come out of it, and
I'm just worried that it might there might be some
pong once, right, you know what I mean.

Speaker 6 (24:12):
It's all about smell today certainly.

Speaker 3 (24:15):
How's the weather today?

Speaker 6 (24:16):
Cloudy, chance of an afternoon shower. Eighteen is the high
here in Auckland.

Speaker 3 (24:19):
Brilliant. We're live to the UK with our correspondent.

Speaker 1 (24:21):
Next International Correspondents with ends and eye insurance, Peace of
Mind for New Zealand Business Quarter to.

Speaker 3 (24:29):
Six News Talk to be Happy Friday. One of our
listeners is on the ground near Lake Hayes. Right now
in Queenstown, close to ten centimeters of snow has fallen
and still falling at the moment. Are we're talking to
nurses next about Shane Etty's health targets right now. Vincent
macaviny Ore, UK Europe Correspondent. Vincent. The TV Awards last
night and mister Bates and the post office did quite well. Yeah,

(24:50):
that's right.

Speaker 11 (24:50):
The National Television Awards here celebrating British productions and mister
Bates versus the post Office has been the biggest drama
here in the UK. I think it will be available
on Brittbot in New Zealand. And it was the story
told in three parts of what happened here in the
last twenty five years to our post office. This computer
system came in that gave false accounts and so many

(25:11):
of our sub postmasters, the people in your local community
running post offices, ended up being fired, losing their businesses,
some went to prison, some took their own lives. It
was a real disaster, now being described as the biggest
miscarriage in justice in British history. There has been attempts
since the drama went out to try and compensate as
much as possible those affected in it, and that has

(25:33):
been the case. Some of them have received funds. But
last night one of those depicted in the drama, Joe Hamilton,
a real subpostmistress, said to them that despite the change
in government in recent weeks, she's had meetings in Westminster
and still not enough of being done to fix this.
So it just shows really the power of drama to
make change when there has been a real miscarriage.

Speaker 3 (25:54):
The big tall hits that the King's Guards were at
Backingham Palus. How much do they cost?

Speaker 11 (25:59):
Well, they are two thousand pounds each.

Speaker 3 (26:02):
They are made from real bear.

Speaker 11 (26:04):
Fur, and in the past decade it's been revealed that
they cost about a million pounds and so there is
an argument now coming from Peter of course, the animal
rights group that they are against the fur and principle
because of animal cruelty. There's also saying a lot of
people saying that these are hugely expensive.

Speaker 3 (26:22):
They are, of course though iconic.

Speaker 11 (26:23):
If you've ever been to Bucking Palace and seen the
King's Guards marching performing, they are quite startling these hats.
But the military is saying that they've tried looking at alternatives,
non fur versions, but they didn't meet the same safety
and durability considerations. I'm not quite sure about that. These
are decorative items. These aren't things that they wear into battle.

(26:43):
It's not like they need to be tested for sort
of all kinds of real conditions, although of course they
have to be pretty warterproof here in London. But we'll
see whether or not they get those changed.

Speaker 3 (26:53):
Yeah, and warm, I would think too. Thanks so much
for that, Vincent mcavini are UK correspondent r and Bridge
Rich get our first glimpse of how the health sector
is performing and meeting the government's targets by Christmas. The
Health Minister, Doctor Shane at Etti, released more detail on
them yesterday.

Speaker 7 (27:10):
These are ambitious targets and what I've said before is
that a number of these targets were hard for the
previous government.

Speaker 2 (27:15):
You know they're going to be hard for me too.

Speaker 3 (27:17):
So currently Health New Zealand will have to find the
funding within baselines to do this, and there are some groups,
specialist groups who disagree. I think that that's wrong. Katie
Nookho is with us US in New Zeala Nurses Organization
President Kerrie good morning, good morning, Thanks for being with us.
What is your issue with these targets and the way

(27:37):
they're going about doing them.

Speaker 4 (27:40):
Well, it seems to be that it's fine to have
ambitious plans, but if you don't have the people and
the resources to implement it, then any good plan will fail.
And this is what it seems to be that we're
seeing here.

Speaker 3 (27:53):
Do how when you say we don't have the resources,
you're talking about.

Speaker 7 (27:56):
Nurses, the whole workforce.

Speaker 4 (28:00):
It's not just nurses that have said that we're understaffed
and the health system is chronically underfunded. It is doctors,
it is visios, that is the rest of the health workforce.

Speaker 3 (28:11):
Is it not good to have a target just to have,
you know, as you say, have something to aspire to?

Speaker 4 (28:17):
And look, I think we agree with what the minister said.
He said that every dollar spent on health is precious.
But the government health target measures process, not outcomes, and
they're centered mainly around waiting this and access and flow
through the system. But if we fail to look at
the reasons for the blockages and the chokash points and

(28:37):
the delays within the systems now, which is workforce and resourcing,
then we're going to fail to execute any ambitious targets.
And that is the problem here. We've had a system
that's being chronically underfunded for years and chronically understaffed.

Speaker 3 (28:52):
Our nursing vacancy though is down from twelve to fifteen
percent to six percent.

Speaker 4 (28:59):
That is what the government is saying. That is not
the reality of what nurses are feeling on the work
front and the patients engagements, the higher work rates. That
is not the picture that our nurses in reality that
are going to work every day face.

Speaker 3 (29:15):
But surely that stats don't lie, do they.

Speaker 4 (29:19):
Well, Nor do our nurses that are on the front
line and seeing these really high turnover of patient Have.

Speaker 3 (29:25):
We ever had a safe level of nurses in New Zealand?

Speaker 4 (29:29):
No, And that's part of the problem, right, We've never
had like internationally they're introducing what's called nurse to patient ratios.
We've never had that type of approach which will set
a standard around how many nurses per patients in the
work place do we need. That's the push, that's the
direction that our organization is saying for the government, let's

(29:49):
start to look at implementation around safe nurse to patient
ratio standards.

Speaker 3 (29:54):
All right, Kerrie, thank you very much for your time
this morning. Really appreciate. That's Kerrie Niku, the Nurses Organization,
a president with US. Just gone nine minutes away from six.

Speaker 1 (30:04):
Ryan Bridge, take.

Speaker 3 (30:09):
Lots more to come here on News Talk CB Mike
Hoskins in the studio next. Very quickly. You would have
seen food prices yesterday increasing point four percent annually and
people are celebrating like that's a good thing. They're still
going up, aren't they. You know your food is still
going up. It's not negative. It's not deflation. It's disinflation

(30:31):
where the rate of increase slows. But here's the thing.
If you haven't had a pay increase, then you are
still struggling to pay for your food and your grocery,
struggling to put food in your mouth, don't you. They
say what goes up must come down, but that's clearly
a lie.

Speaker 2 (30:55):
Hell the first word on the News of the Day
early edition with Ryan Bridge and Smith City, New Zealand's
Furniture Beds and a play a Store News Talks.

Speaker 3 (31:09):
They'd be six to six news talks. It'd be great
to have your company. New research published this morning. This
is in the Australian and New Zealand Journal of Public Health.
It says Basically, if your teenager starts vaping, they are
five times more likely to then try smoking, and it
gets worse. The younger you are, the worse your odds.
So twelve year olds who had vaped were twenty nine

(31:33):
times more likely to go and try smoking than twelve
year olds who hadn't vaped. Jeez, with stats like that,
you might as well start straight on the durries like
the good old days. You don't when you go behind
the bike sheds and Grandma tells you everyone us to
gun smoke. Anyway, probably not a good idea of five
to six, Ryan Bridge, Mike's here, Good morning, Mike Morning.

Speaker 12 (31:53):
Philippa did that work and she's on the program after
seven o'clock. Brilliant, So we'll do something about that.

Speaker 3 (31:59):
It stands to reason, isn't it. I mean, if you're
if you're younger, you're more impressionable.

Speaker 12 (32:02):
But they still they still argue it's a cessation tool.
I'm not convinced that it's anyway. Quick question for you, Yeah,
what would it need to cost for a spacewalk.

Speaker 3 (32:11):
Before you before I do it? Well, I mean that
is it a cost thing or not? Really? Well, as
you know, I don't have carpet in my non existent garage.

Speaker 12 (32:19):
So let's say things have improved and you've got some carpet,
and you've done and you've done the Rehino's and you
find yourself in a position where the key we save
has done well and you're a little bit of extra.

Speaker 3 (32:28):
Kay. How much would I pay to get up there?
Would you go?

Speaker 8 (32:30):
At all?

Speaker 3 (32:31):
Yeah? I would love to go. You'd love to go.
I would love to go. Fifty grand?

Speaker 12 (32:37):
So you'd pay fifty thousand dollars?

Speaker 3 (32:39):
How much would you pay?

Speaker 12 (32:40):
I wouldn't pay anything, wouldn't go.

Speaker 3 (32:41):
You wouldn't go.

Speaker 5 (32:42):
Do you know?

Speaker 12 (32:42):
Do you know what I think it is? It's it's
I don't want to be killed you I think it's
it like the Antarctic used to be a place that
only the experts when and Everest used to be a
place you had to be a mountaineer, whereas now you
can just buy your way into.

Speaker 3 (32:52):
See, I've been to Antarctica, so I'm just of course
you have, you know, I mean they're basically flying started Noway?

Speaker 12 (32:58):
Is it worth it?

Speaker 3 (32:59):
It was? It was an incredible experience. I went down
there with John Kee when I was you know, following
am around in the press pack. Actually, do you know
who else came with us? Terry Soaper and all there.
I was stuck in the bunk room with Barry Soaper,
no one snoring.

Speaker 12 (33:14):
Has day for God's sake.

Speaker 3 (33:17):
Also, you know how it's light year round down there.
They didn't have fully closable blackout curtains no way. So
I've got Barry snoring, I've got light coming in, and
I'm thinking rather go to space.

Speaker 12 (33:28):
They would have had to have paid me to go
and put up with that experience. But anyway, we'll be
talking about that of course this morning.

Speaker 3 (33:34):
Quite an achievement for a private enterprise. I reckon ye.
All right, MICA's with the next have a fantastic week
in everybody. I will see you again on Monday.

Speaker 2 (33:55):
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Speaker 1 (33:56):
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