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Speaker 1 (00:01):
The issues, excuse the interviews and the inside. Ryan Bridge
new for twenty twenty four on the early edition with
Smith City, New Zealand's Furniture Vents and a play a
store news talks.
Speaker 2 (00:15):
He'd be good morning six after five. Great to have
your news talks. There'd be this morning coming up just
before six labors Dunk and web on violent crime going
up and Chippy's popularity going down. Updates on Trump throughout
the show this morning. Also the economy's baggage, but farmers
are upbeats. We'll look at that at five twenty and
on a demao out of Australia.
Speaker 3 (00:37):
The agenda it.
Speaker 2 (00:38):
Is Tuesday to seventeenth of August. The guy thought to
be planning an attempt on Trump's life, Yes, another one
has appeared in court. Hearing lasted ten minutes. His special
affect was so flat, his demeanor was relaxed.
Speaker 4 (00:52):
I honestly thought it look like somebody that just left
the church picnic and was on his way home.
Speaker 2 (00:58):
At this stage. Ryan Wes Routh has only been charged
with possession of a firearm by convicted felon and position
of a firearm with an obstructed serial number, which he's
accused of scratching off. Both are federal charges. You can
definitely expect there'll be more of those too. Zero, nada, zilch.
That's how much our economy is tipped to grow by
in the year to March twenty twenty five. This is
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NZII quarterly consensus forecasts. We'll pick up to two point
two percent growth by March twenty twenty six. We have
inflation data out this Thursday here in New Zealand. By
the way, October ninth is our next OCR review and
we'll look at those numbers and more details shortly. Borders
are going up in Europe again, well sort of. Germany
has added new checks to the borders and a crackdown
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on migration.
Speaker 3 (01:44):
We do not check every vehicle or every person.
Speaker 5 (01:47):
Rather, the checks are targeted at vehicles suspected of carrying
illegal migrants.
Speaker 2 (01:53):
The PSA says the zero wage increase put forward by
the Defense Force is insulting. This is for non uniformed members.
They're unhappy following the Defense Force's refusal to lift pay
for civilian workers during bargaining for a new collective agreement.
Is there sympathy for Wellington based office staff given the
state of housing that our soldiers living in around in Wayoudu,
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Zimbabwe is going to cull two hundred elephants. That's that
I should say, that's not the sound of them being culled.
Who was worried listening at home? So two hundred elephants, yes,
that sounds like a lot, but they've got eighty five thousand.
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That's double their capacity of forty five thousand. The Environment
Minister says they've got more than they need and their
forests can't accommodate them all. They're being used to feed
humans left hungry by the worst drought in decades.
Speaker 1 (02:50):
The news you need this morning and the in depth
analysis early edition with Ryan Bridge and Swift City, New
Zealand's furniture Beds and a playing store news Talk.
Speaker 2 (03:00):
When Theamibia is doing it too. They're all coloring elephants. Actually,
in Namimbia they're colling hippos as well. Elephants and hippos
seven hundred last month. And it's quite simple really. They
are fighting competing for resources with these animals, and the
animals can provide protein and people are hungry, and when
people are hungry, they need to be fed, so they're
culling them and you can imagine the animal rights groups,
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the activists, et cetera, all upset, but they're all sitting there,
probably popping down to the cafe for a sandwich at lunch,
not really starving, you know, so it's all very well
for them to say. Apparently, what they're going to try
and do is mobilize women from the villages to dry
and pack the meat and then get it to the
villages which most need protein. So it's not like they're
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culling them and then you know, discarding them or anything.
It is going to feed hungry miles ten.
Speaker 3 (03:48):
After five, Bryan Bridge tell.
Speaker 2 (03:51):
You he'll be doing a little victory lap, a little
I Told you So dance this morning, and that is
Nikola Willis, the Finance minister. Remember she said there was
a big debate about whether the tax cuts that the
government's offering would add to inflation because you get more
money in your back pocket, you go and spend it,
as the theory, and then you'd continue to drive prices up.
So why would you give a tax cut at a
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time like this, said labor etc. Will treasuries release the
beef and they have said actually either neutral in terms
of its effect on inflation or in the scenario that
they have paid. Because it depends how much of the
tax cut you go and spend, you might save some, right,
so it doesn't add to inflation. They said. The verdict
was basically it was either neutral or more likely it
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would actually reduce inflation because of how much they're cutting
through government services. So she will be happy with that.
Our finance minister and Bridge brig she's got eleven minutes
after five, you're on newstalk said be hey, some I
know you may not like hearing about Boeing, but I'm
just endlessly fascinated by them. So more turbulence from them. Overnight.
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There's shares of down four percent. They're hiring freezers now
kicking in. They are cutting back on orders, more orders.
They've got this huge backlog of planes that they need
to get through, and they build half of the planes
that we fly in. You know, they've got a q
longer than an X ray machine at Heathrow Airport in
terms of planes. Anyway, because of the strikes, which are
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costing them five hundred million dollars a week, it's half
a billion dollars a week. Because of the strikes, their
credit rating is now at risk, so more bad news
for Boeing, good news for farmers on the way. Eleven
after five.
Speaker 1 (05:47):
Get ahead of the headlines, Ryan Bridge, You for twenty
twenty four on early edition with Smith City, New Zealand's
furniture beds and a player store.
Speaker 3 (05:56):
News Talk said B.
Speaker 2 (05:57):
Fourteen after five on news Talk said B. The latest
theory Zed's quarterly ECON tracker. The last one this is
for June, predicted a payer including dividends of eight dollars
thirty four per kilogram of milk solids, a break even
point of eight dollars oh seven. This now has been
revised up to eight dollars eighty four and eight dollars
oh nine. We're going to talk to fed farmers about
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that in just a few minutes. Just gone fourteen after five,
Ryan Bridge. A new report in to the health of
the children in this country is a particularly grim read
out this morning. Cure Kids fourth State of Child Health
Report has found that PACIFICA children are one hundred and
fifteen times more likely and MALDI children forty six times
more likely to be hospitalized with acute dramatic fever compared
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to their European counterparts. Hospitalization rates for respiratory conditions and
children under one year have increased by forty four percent
over the past two decades. Stuart Darzil is the Cure
Kids Chair of Child Health Research and a University of
Aukland professor. He's with us this morning. Good morning, Good morning, right,
thanks for being with me. Can I first ask about
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this report? Why have you decided to group the children
by race?
Speaker 6 (07:08):
I think it's important when we look at our statistics
across the health system that we look at groups where
we have not delivered good quality healthcare in the past too,
and so that is grouping children by race and ethnicity
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is quite useful for that, but also grouping children according
to their socioeconomic status as well. And that same disparity
that you just talked about in terms of race, you
see that same disparity across the report for a number
of conditions for socioeconomic status as well.
Speaker 2 (07:50):
So what is driving these stats? Is it poverty or
is it race?
Speaker 6 (07:58):
I think it is a common it's a combination of things.
And if we look at what are the foundations that
good health is built on. That's about adequate housing, that's
about adequate nutrition, that's about freedom from poverty, and we
haven't got those things sorted for all of our children,
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and as a country, we need to be concentrating on
those big ticket items as well as the kind of
individual diseases we talked about in the report. In terms
of implementing specific health change as well, the.
Speaker 2 (08:34):
Government has issued a director saying that we need to
focus on need rather than race. What particular needs does
this report say that we should focus on?
Speaker 6 (08:45):
So I think the report is quite clear in terms
of where the need be, where the need lies. So
the report looked at five key health conditions respiratory disease,
can infection, rheumatic heart disease, dental disease, and mental health.
And you alluded to the change that we've seen over
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the last two decades. You know, in our infants, the
rates of respiratory disease have increased by forty four percent
over the last two decades. If we look at dental
health and mental health disorders, the rates of these have
increased by twice what they were two decades ago. We've
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reduced some things like skin infection and rheumatic heart disease,
but for skin infections our rates are still twice what
they should actually be. And for grammatic heart disease. We're
seeing one sixtieth what we should be seeing is one
sixtieth of what we are actually seeing. So the priority
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is these areas of need and that's what we should
be focusing on. And there are individual communities within that
that we should be focusing on. But ideally, if we
just focus on these five conditions and we get it right,
we're going to get help right for all of New
Zeasand's children.
Speaker 2 (10:04):
Would you agree then with the government that it is
more helpful to focus on housing, to focus on family income,
focus on poverty, rather than divvying everything up by race.
Speaker 6 (10:22):
Look, I think, honestly, you've got to look at both strategies.
I think you've got to look at a lens to
say which children are we failing And if we see
that we are failing on the basis of race, we
then need to have strategies and we need to question
ourselves why are we failing on race? Now, the answers
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to that may not be specifically race targeted policies, but
what we need is we need policy. We need to
be very clear about where we are failing, and then
we can look at ways to im.
Speaker 2 (11:00):
All right, Stuart thank you very much for your time
this morning. Stuart Darzil Cure Kid's Tear of Child Health
Research and University of Auckland professor this near port out
this morning. It does make four particularly grim reading on
the state of our children's health. Nineteen minutes after five
news talks he'd been.
Speaker 1 (11:15):
On your radio and online on iHeartRadio early edition with
Ryan Bridge and Smith City, New Zealand's Furniture Beds and
a Flying Store.
Speaker 3 (11:24):
News talk said be.
Speaker 2 (11:25):
Twenty one minutes after five, the guy accused Well, actually,
at this stage he's only facing gun charges because he
is a convicted felon already hasn't faced any charges of
attempt assassination yet anything like that. However, they've just been
told in court in West Palm Beach, Florida that he
was hiding in the bushes at Trump's golf course for
twelve hours because yesterday, remember we learned that it was
(11:47):
an unscheduled stop for the former president. So this guy
was in the bush allegedly for twelve hours before take it,
well before the Secret Service took shots at him. Twenty
two after five. Darien Z's quarterly ECON tracker is out.
The last one predicted a payout including dividends eight dollars
thirty four, a break even point of eight dollars zero
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seven per kg of milk solids. Now the payout is
up eight dollars eighty four predicted break even eight dollars
oh nine. Joining us Mark story darien Z, Head of Economics, Mark,
good morning, Good morning, Roy, Thank you for being with me.
What's pushing this? What's driving this?
Speaker 7 (12:25):
Yeah, two things are driving that revised those revised forecasts.
The first is the improvements in the forecast milk power
price and proticted from FRONTIRA and announcements in August, so
the revenue side's going up. And the second is the
reserve banks forecast of interest rate costs adjustments and banks
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beginning to respond to that. So those two, those two
factors are in combination are driving and improved outlook for
our dairy farmers this season.
Speaker 2 (12:54):
How much is that worth to your average farmer? The
reduction and interest rates.
Speaker 7 (13:01):
Well, if we're looking at it, it obviously it depends
a lot for farm to farm. But if we're looking
at you know, I guess it's coming into well, we're
looking at rates of you know, an extra half percent
more than a half percent in the remainder of this season.
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We've done some analysis which has looked at what the
difference would be between you know, fast rates coming in
the December this year, if we were dropping down to
seven and a half percent from from eight point five
at present, and we're looking in the low tens of thousands.
But the more that flows into the season after that, yeah,
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obviously or makes a healthy difference.
Speaker 2 (13:46):
So that it's quite significant then, isn't it that? How
are you feeling? How farmersphiling? It must be it must
be a positive step. I guess a positive outlook.
Speaker 7 (13:57):
Yeah, it's definitely always cautious positive. It's early in the
season yet, so everyone's relying on forecasts of revenue and
forecasts of expenses at the same time. But it's it's
looking positive compared to previous seasons. Anything, any payout pies
with an eight in front of it tends to be good.
And if it starts getting up towards the nine, then
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farmers are generally sitting in a fairly positive situation. Expenses
are still high and they are staying quite stubbornly high,
so things like wages, fertilizer, feed, et cetera. Having come
down and perhaps as much as we would rights. In fact,
in this forecast where predicting that they've gone up. That's reflecting,
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you know, there's inflation staying in the system and those
prices are quite sticky. But overall farmers are getting in
a better position and hopefully can start paying down some
of their debt this season.
Speaker 2 (14:51):
Good good. I am pleased to hear it. And when
I'm looking at an n ZE forecast saying for a
zero percent growth as its country through to March next year,
I'm pleased to hear a little a spot of good news. Mark,
Thank you very much. Mark story, Darien's ed head of
economics with us this morning, someone says, Mark says, its
snowing in christ Church. Thanks Mark, give us your year
(15:13):
of snow reports. This morning, nine nine two on the
text twenty five after five.
Speaker 1 (15:17):
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Speaker 2 (15:23):
Chris Luxen has something to smile about this morning. Two
sets of data to cheer about, you could say. The
first is the pole. He seems to be, at least
from what I've seen, shaking off that slightly cringe ceo
Monica that people had been labeling him as cementing himself
as a man with a plan in charge across most
of the issues and not allowing himself to become distracted
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by the inevitable noise that comes with running the ninth floor.
So this latest Taxpayer's Union Carrier poll, the NATS are
up one point four to thirty nine percent. That's an
extra seat for them, no change for act in New
Zealand first grabbing an extra seat that is safe across
the line. The preferred PM numbers are interesting. Chippy's gone
off a cliff. The trend is down and that's this
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result in particular as a shocker. He's down six point
one points to twelve point six percent. Luxen thirty two
point seven percent, so Chippy is now almost within margin
of era, with not luxin but Chloe on seven point
two percent. The other number is the NZII quarterly consensus
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start we've been talking about not so great for us,
at least in the short term, a big fat zero
GDP growth in the year to March, which is depressing
because we've had almost two years of recession or close
to it now and people just want to see the
country firing again. We want to see it spark and
that's where luxin will be happy to see this projection
two point two percent, that is growth expected in the
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year to March twenty twenty six. And we know what
else is happening in twenty twenty six right an election,
it's humble two point two percent. It's not run away,
but after these past few years, it's like electoral fairy dust.
People don't generally vote on race relations, the politics of envy,
climate change. They vote basically on how rich they feel
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and who might make them richer and lux and at
least on these numbers would appear to have the upper
hand on that front. Ryan Bridge twenty nine five. We've
got Duncan Webb from Labor on the show just before
six because despite what I've just said, they're not quite
meeting their targets when it comes to law and order.
Speaker 3 (17:33):
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Speaker 2 (17:50):
The Good Morning New Zealand. It is twenty four minutes
away from six. Hope you're warming up in the Deep South.
We're getting reports of snow in christ Church this morning.
Our nine two is the number text. Let us know
how it is at your place. I'm getting a little
sick of these weather warnings for Auckland. Yesterday they said
weather bomb coming, possible tornadoes. Today they're saying possible power outages. Honestly,
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it rained for five minutes yesterday. So underwhelming, so anti climatic.
I know you shouldn't wish for bad weather, but sometimes
when you're inside and you don't have to be out there,
it's kind of nice to think about. Anyway, it was.
It was a lame storm, That's what it was. Nine
two the number to text. We're going to get to
our reporters around the country in just a second. Donna
de Mayo out of Australia and Duncan Web, the Labor
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Party spokesperson for Justice on those numbers from yesterday showing
an increase in violent crime. A lot of that stuff
happened while they were in power, So will they accept
responsibility and what does he think about Chippy on twelve
percent for preferred Prime Minister Brian Bridge. We're going to
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our reporters around the country, starting with Clum and Dunedin. Caulum,
you cold this morning?
Speaker 8 (18:58):
Yeah, it is chilly this morning, single figure stuff, I
mean our high today's just seven. We do have a
road snowfall warning, but really no sign of it at
the moment.
Speaker 2 (19:06):
No roads closed at this stage. All right, what's happening
with Coronet Peak.
Speaker 8 (19:10):
Look, there's a proposed development at the foothills of the
ski field that's facing a big community pushback.
Speaker 2 (19:17):
Coronet Village Limited.
Speaker 8 (19:19):
Project includes a new gondola, a seven hundred and eighty
home subdivision, a commercial center, private schools, also car parks.
But in response, Malligan's Valley Protection Society has been established
and it's growing concerns around this proposal. The society is
pushing back, saying it's worried that this project could get
approved for fast track development. They say it could be
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given the green light with nobody having a say on it.
Speaker 2 (19:45):
All right, thanks so much for that, Callum Claire shereward
Is and crushers this morning, clear have any sign of
the snow? First of all, how is you weather for today?
Speaker 9 (19:53):
With the snow yet to Ryan, It's very wet here
this morning, pouring with rain. It is really cold. Those
single figures here as well too, agrees at the moment,
and only nine today our high the low tonight get
this minus four.
Speaker 2 (20:05):
Lovely Clia tell us about these birds will have a
chili arrival to christ Church.
Speaker 9 (20:10):
Well, they will have a chili arrival. Look, hundreds of
the bar tailed Godwits have made their arrival to the
avon Hethket Estuary. These are the birds that fly more
than eleven thousand kilometers across the Pacific over somewhere between
six and eight days from the Alaskan coast. The arrival
of them. At this point, we've got two hundred and
twenty eight here in christ Church. It's a few days
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later than their arrival last year, which was actually the
second earliest on record, but we are expecting more surges
over the coming days.
Speaker 2 (20:38):
All right, nice one, Thanks Claire. We're going to Wellington
Max is with us. Max you have failed to give
us your topic ahead of time, so I don't know.
I don't know what it is you were speaking about.
Speaker 5 (20:48):
Well, have you been to a storier lately? The Cafe
bar on Midland Park, Lampton.
Speaker 3 (20:54):
Key.
Speaker 2 (20:54):
No, Actually I went there with my mum maybe two
years ago.
Speaker 3 (20:57):
What's going on?
Speaker 2 (20:58):
What was a story with a story?
Speaker 5 (21:00):
Yeah, it was right around the time they had a
massive refurbishment, very swanky now new kitchen busy. Quite often
the owners you group looking for they're going to open
a second storya near Parliament, aiming for early next year
in the new Bowen campus. They believe there's a market
close to Parliament. Hucks Lease has done well around their
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other spots of closing. Worth pointing out though another of
you Group's businesses, the Hudson, is closing at least temporarily
with business down close to the old Central Library off
Victoria Street. But a second a story coming early twenty
twenty five.
Speaker 2 (21:38):
Interesting that there is some expansion. At least there is
one bit of good news. Max. How's your winner?
Speaker 5 (21:44):
Yeah, not great either, periods of rain, strong, southerly's cold
nine the high in the city.
Speaker 2 (21:50):
Thank you Max. We're going to Neva an Auckland. Good morning,
good morning. We just had a text in from one
of our lovely listeners. It's snowing at sea level in Waikuku.
Be each North Canterbury.
Speaker 4 (22:01):
Stop it.
Speaker 2 (22:01):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (22:02):
Well they were saying, now we're just talking about that
in the newsroom, saying that some of the temperatures to
do minus three. Christch was a minus four. It's like wow,
So we shouldn't complain really here in Auckland. But I've missed.
I heard you talking about, you know, like the heavy.
Speaker 2 (22:18):
Rain of the storm look out betting down the hatches.
Speaker 3 (22:20):
I missed that.
Speaker 2 (22:21):
I fell asleep. I would have lasted about two seconds.
Speaker 4 (22:25):
I was just thinking everyone else out there though they said,
oh man, how did you go? Those saying oh, really
bigger than Ben.
Speaker 2 (22:31):
Hurt, that'd be Jenny at composting.
Speaker 4 (22:35):
Actually I thought a booklar could go into my place
and I'd be sound asleep to take everything and I'd
be still. I'd still miss everything.
Speaker 2 (22:43):
Hey, what's this? What's happening with a pool closing?
Speaker 3 (22:45):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (22:45):
Now look this is the Auckland Council release it's long
waited report. This is into the Olympic Pools and Fitness
center in new Market. You've probably been there, you go there.
Speaker 2 (22:54):
The one that okay, well.
Speaker 4 (22:55):
Yeah, well look it's released this report just two months
before the least expires. Now it's identified there's several structural
issues with the buildings, which estimates it could cost about
five million dollars to address. So the report offers four
options for going forward. And because of this earthquake prone
and now it's saying that the White Mantar Local board
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is going to vote on it today, so it could
close for a year. So what it's recommending an extension
of the Olympic Pool's lease until twenty twenty six and
the year closure of the facility afterwards for construction.
Speaker 2 (23:29):
Oh goodness man, So.
Speaker 4 (23:30):
Yeah, what I mean Olympic Pool. You know the director,
he's not very happy about it. He's saying, look, we
put forward, you know, some of the things that keep
it open, and we can get some of the construction
work done. So it's going back and forward.
Speaker 2 (23:40):
Because if the ground was going to open up and
swallow you in, you know, during an earthquake, you wouldn't
want to be in a pool, would you, because you
just get flushed down like a toilet. Do you know
what I mean? Exactly if you're swimming in a pool
and there's a huge crack and the ground opens up.
I mean, at least if you were on land, you
can grab onto something.
Speaker 4 (23:57):
Oh that's right, I'll grab on to you. You pushed
me down there, going see you later.
Speaker 2 (24:02):
How's the weather in contru.
Speaker 4 (24:03):
Gavy rain, thunderstorms inhil possible batten down the hatches southwesterly
is gale from afternoon, gusting ninety kilometers per hour. Thirteen
is the high.
Speaker 2 (24:11):
Thanks never seventeen to six News Talks, he'd.
Speaker 1 (24:14):
Been international correspondence with ends and eye insurance. Peace of
mind for New Zealand business if.
Speaker 2 (24:20):
You're just joining us. The man accused of potentially harming
or planning to harm the US president, former President Donald Trump,
has appeared in West Palm Beach in the court there
and was apparently hiding out in the bushes at his
golf club for twelve hours before Secret Service agents shot
at him and he drove away. He is facing two
(24:43):
chargers which are basically just low level gun charges and
the reason for that is the more serious charges are
expected to come later. These are the ones they could
basically pin them on. Right now, just gone fourteen away.
Speaker 3 (24:55):
From six Bryan Bridge.
Speaker 2 (24:57):
I'm we're going to Donald Tomo, our Australia correspondent. Done
very cold over your way.
Speaker 10 (25:02):
Oh you wouldn't believe it, but Australians just love talking
about the weather and we have had record load temperatures
across Southeast Australia. This icy blast has struck several states
in fact, and these freezing temperatures have pretty much caught
us unawares in the capital, for instance, in Canberra minus
six point nine degrees, Inland, New South Wales below zero
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across many areas, and in a South Australia town the
coldest September in sixty two years. As I mentioned New
South Wales, you know areas minus eight, minus six in
Bathist minus four degrees. Victoria regional areas had minus four
point five and minus four in the Mali region in
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the heart of Victoria the coldest in twenty nine years.
So the way the Bureau says, oh, this system has
come almost from Antarctica and these temperatures about five to
eight degrees below average. Frankly, it's all take It's all
been a bit of a shock, to be honest. But
the weather forecast for today it's going to be a
frosty morning, but thankfully by tomorrow it should start warming up.
Speaker 2 (26:09):
I was going to say, is this really news, but
it's cold and Australia. Yes there is news. Let's go
to trot warm tropical Queensland. There's a famous island that's
been sold.
Speaker 10 (26:21):
So this Queensland island inspired scenes in Chronicles of Narnia.
A film that came out I think around twenty ten.
Speaker 4 (26:29):
It's just solid.
Speaker 10 (26:30):
At auction, there were about two hundred and eighty seven inquiries.
Now sadly I wasn't one of them. But this this
place is called Little Green Island. It's owned by a
film producer and actor called Douglas Gresham. Happens to be
the stepson of Narnia's author C. S.
Speaker 3 (26:44):
Lewis.
Speaker 10 (26:45):
It's just south of the Whitsunday Islands on the Great
Barrier Reef, a beautiful, beautiful part of the world. Well
Gresham happens to live in Malta, but he bought this
sixty three acre private island for two point four to
five million about fifteen years ago. And what's their well,
tropical forest, lagoon, pristine beaches, one house and a caretaker's
cottage in a pool. And the family said that they
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relay to the agent that this island had inspired these
scenes in this film The Chronicles of Narnia. The agent
said it was unspoilt and secluded and it was quite beautiful.
But they're very very thankful locals are anyway, that the
buyer came from Mackay in Queensland, so it didn't go
to an international buyer. As I mentioned that many, many
people wanted to get their hands on this beautiful, beautiful
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part of the world.
Speaker 2 (27:30):
It sounds like it, Donna, thank you very much for that.
Don and our Australia correspondent eleven minutes away from.
Speaker 3 (27:35):
Six crain Bridge.
Speaker 2 (27:37):
So the government's plans target is to have twenty thousand
fewer victims of violent crime by twenty thirty, but the
latest figures show that victimizations are going up. Luxelon's blaming
the previous lot and.
Speaker 10 (27:48):
It's also further proof that the previous soft on crime
approach has emboldened defenders and created a crime wave that
will take a much tougher approach to stop.
Speaker 2 (27:58):
Duncan web Is, Labour's Justice person is with us this morning,
dunk and good morning.
Speaker 11 (28:02):
Good morning. When that line's not going to work forever,
is that he's he's had a pretty much a year
now in things getting worse.
Speaker 2 (28:09):
But you guys use that line for six years.
Speaker 11 (28:14):
No, well they had nine years in so they've got
more to an answer for. But look, the fact of
the matter is that the tough on crime it sounds
good and everyone wants a safe community and we should
be tough on violent criminals. People who are violent criminals
should be sentenced properly. But there's nothing new in this
sentencing change that we're seeing now.
Speaker 2 (28:36):
Well, they're wanting to limit the discounts to forty percent.
What would be your number in terms of a discount
if you're a criminal, you're going through the courts, how
much is your maximum discount? Do you think?
Speaker 11 (28:48):
Well, I look at what judges do now, and when
ever they give a discount, particularly particularly a large one,
they want really good reasons. They want to show that
it's going to be manifestly unjust if they if they imprison.
Speaker 3 (29:01):
Them for longer.
Speaker 11 (29:02):
And that's exactly the rule that they're putting in. So,
I mean, the judges have discretion for a reason, and
the reason is to take account of exceptional cases. A
forty percent discount in real life is a very very
large discount. Indeed, this isn't even a bright line maximum.
It's forty percent unless it would be manifest now just
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to impose that sentence, in which case you can get
a great discount. So it's not even a rule. So
would you then what's there already? Well, it changes nothing,
and it places more and more confusing rules in the
for the opposing sentences, So probably not, you.
Speaker 2 (29:41):
Know, probably not, because are you going to support any
of their changes? I mean when it comes to the
gang laws, for example, is there anything in there that
you say, yes, good idea, will support you on that.
Speaker 11 (29:54):
The gang laws are another one which are an absolute
dog's breakfast. It's pretty much unf forceful. The Gang Insignia DAN,
the dispersal orders thing, going to serve notices on gangs
by email, the first time I've ever seen anything like that,
and they haven't even got their email addresses. They have
to go up and ask nicely for them. This is
exactly what I mean. So government, how you see something
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the table? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (30:17):
Can you see though why we are here? Can you
see why a government would come in and respond like this?
Try everything they can literally throw in the kitchen table,
at the kitchen sink at this because things have gotten
so bad under.
Speaker 11 (30:33):
You guys, well they might as well throw the kitchen sink.
Because as much evidence to that helping as is for
things like boot camps, you know, and that's part of
the point. We put in some programs that were making
great progress. They were the circuit break of programs for
young offenders. They took half of that and added a
boot camp to it and said, look what we're doing
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now again, Yes, we see that we want safer communities,
and over since OVID there's been an increase in crime,
and that increase has continued. Yes, we agree we need
to do things, but doing things like just putting a
quick coat of paint over the Sentencing Act isn't doing anything.
What we need is better interventions, better alcohol and treatment,
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better health interventions for petter mental health problems, and a
better reaction system.
Speaker 2 (31:21):
Yeah, well that all sounds lovely. Hey, speaking of interventions,
are you is anyone planning an intervention on Chippy down
on twelve percent?
Speaker 11 (31:32):
I hadn't seen that number. The look, we think he's doing.
Speaker 3 (31:34):
A great jobs.
Speaker 2 (31:36):
So I'll tell you the number that have had The
taxpayer Uni Caurier poll out has preferred PM down six
point one points to twelve point six. Yeah.
Speaker 11 (31:47):
Well that's David Fower's pole and his polling methods are
a bit dodgy. But whatever the number, we think he's
doing a great job. He's out there, he's getting around
the country, he's telling our story, and we think he's
doing a great job.
Speaker 2 (31:59):
You're ok with them going over to the UK to
the Labor Party conference? Is that is that the place
to be to get crime down?
Speaker 11 (32:06):
Oh, the Labor Party conference is going to look at
a party that won and got some new ideas and
doing different things and we want to see how they
did it. I think it's a really good all.
Speaker 2 (32:14):
Right, Duncan, thank you very much for coming on the
show and getting up early. Really appreciate your time at
Duncan Web is Labour's Justice spokesperson. It is seven to six.
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Speaker 3 (32:55):
You everything that's wrong with us.
Speaker 2 (32:57):
Well, we're discussing pizza heart. Oh no, I've got very
fond memories. All you can eat? How much could you eat?
Speaker 3 (33:05):
Well?
Speaker 2 (33:05):
Quite a lot, because they it was the first time
I'd been able to pour my own ice cream from
one of those machines. Would you go, yeah, that's fun,
I'll give you that. Would you go straight to the
dessert because you don't want to have all the pizza?
You have no room for dessert?
Speaker 6 (33:19):
You do?
Speaker 2 (33:20):
Could you go a whole pizza? Of course? I could
you go a whole multiple whole pizzas, true, you could not.
How many pizzas could you How many regular sized pizzas
could you eat? Honestly?
Speaker 3 (33:33):
And one in one go?
Speaker 2 (33:35):
I could eat two regular sides, regular plus dessert plus dessert.
Could you do the jelly because they're selling jelly. Yeah,
they're doing it. I'm not a big fan of jelly,
but I would definitely get that moose in my mouth.
Speaker 11 (33:49):
So yeah.
Speaker 1 (33:50):
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