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September 19, 2024 28 mins

On the Early Edition with Ryan Bridge Full Show Podcast for Friday 20th of September. New Zealand's GDP has dropped, but it's not quite as bad as the forecasts. So where to from here and when will we start to see growth? ASB's Chief Economist Nick Tuffley joins the show. 

A new solution to tackle backlog in the count system - the Government wants to reduce the number of jury trials to save time. KC Phillip Morgan speaks to Ryan about the proposed changes. 

Former All Blacks Captain Ian Kirkpatrick speaks to Ryan about NZ's chances of winning against the Wallabies this weekend, following two back-to-back losses against South Africa. 

Christopher Luxon's getting a bit tetchy and brassed off by questions about his targets - he's set the goals, now he needs to meet them, and perhaps be a little more relaxed about the questions along the way. 

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
The issues, the interviews and the inside Ryan Bridge new
for twenty twenty four on the early edition with Smith City,
New Zealand's furniture bands and a player store news Dogs.

Speaker 2 (00:15):
It'd be good morning this six after five. Welcome to
your Friday morning. Could our mortgagees be getting a seventy
five basis point Carton or the OACR by Christmas? We'll
look at that. Just before six this morning, Doughtie al
Fayed's dad Muhammad is accused of rape by who and how?
This is all at Harold's. Apparently the former All Blacks
captain Ian Kirkpatrick is with us ahead of tomorrow's game

(00:38):
and jury trials the judges, which one are you more
likely to get off under? It's sonata bit we because
we speaking of a barrister. In a couple of minutes,
it is seven up to five.

Speaker 3 (00:55):
The agenda.

Speaker 2 (00:56):
Israel's carried out a new wave of attacks against his
villa target in Lebanon, killing at least thirty seven people.
Also flying warplanes over Beirute the capitol, all caught on
CNN as someone was doing a live cross hell is
Reli air plane overhead. Okay Eleni, there's an Israeli fighter

(01:19):
jet flying dropping flares. His son ISRAELA this is the
haz Buller leader has spoken. He says that Israel has
crossed all the red lines over the pager and walkie
talkie attacks as before, what's happened overnight, So we'll have
to wait and see what happens there. The cooks Strait
still cooks bluebridges. Connie mar A fairy lost power overnight,

(01:40):
drifted for two hours, just a drift on the cook
straight and eighty eight people on board. Will have more
on that soon. A new Washington Post poll out has
Trump and Harris in a statistical tie. In the King
of the Swings, Pennsylvania. Harris is getting hammered there by
oil rigged workers for flip flopping on fracking.

Speaker 4 (01:59):
Do you believe No, I believe she's out there saying
whatever she can to make people, you know, try to
swing her away so.

Speaker 2 (02:06):
That she can try to get presidency.

Speaker 5 (02:08):
The settlement around this whole region is nobody believes that.

Speaker 2 (02:11):
I don't believe anybody in that administration. The walkie talkies
that blew up in Lebanon, well, turns out they were
made by a Japanese company who says we had nothing
to do with that. They were exported to the Middle
East between two thousand and four and twenty fourteen and
were discontinued ten years ago. They reckon they must have

(02:31):
been booby traps. Eight after five on.

Speaker 3 (02:34):
Your radio and online on iHeartRadio early edition with Ryan
Bridge and Smith City, New Zealand's Furniture Bids and a
playing store.

Speaker 2 (02:43):
US Talk said be so, if you're just joining us,
good morning. It's Friday. And the Connie Mara, this is
a Blue Bridge ferry blacked out and drifted for two hours.
And they said, oh, it's okay because it's not drifting
towards show, it's drifting out to the ocean. Well cold
comfort for those on board. I would have thought it
was a freight trip. So only eighty eight people on board.
But they issued a statement eleven fifty nine pm this

(03:05):
is Maritime New Zealand saying the Blue Bridge ferry Connie
Marra has lost power and the cook straight three point
seven kilometers south of Sinclair Head. Whether in sea conditions
moderate at the time it is drifting. Then at one
thirty am there's another update. The tugboats are there, so
that's good. You'd be thinking if you were the inter islander,
you'd be thinking, oh, thank god, it's not us, wouldn't

(03:27):
you if you've been serious, if you know, if you've
been real about it, because boy have they had their troubles,
the out of Teddy around a ground in June. If
you're on board, because I think they're still tugging it
back into the harbor. So if you're on board, text
me nine two ninety two. We'd love to hear what
they what happened and what they told you at the time.
Just gone ten minutes after five Ryan Bridge. It took

(03:50):
a minute. It took a minute. But stocks are down. Sorry,
stocks are up, I should say. This is the market
reacting to the Fed's double whammy rate cut yesterday. So
they've rallied overnight, the Nasdak climbing more than two percent,
the S and P five hundred adding a percent, which
is good. They are reacting positively to the news. The
other central banks a Bank of England they held steady

(04:12):
at five percent. They've already started cutting like us, so
there's no reaction to be had. South Africa they have
the first and only so far actually to react to
the FEDS cup they've lowered their key rate from eight
point twenty five percent to eight percent. That was a
fifteen year higher for them. In South Africa, Norway unchanged,

(04:32):
Taiwan held rates. Turkey they've kept their benchmark rate at
fifty percent, which is meeting expectations because they're battling hyperinflation
over there. We're going to talk jury trials this rejudges next.
It is eleven after five on your Friday morning.

Speaker 3 (04:56):
Ryan Bridge new for twenty twenty four on early edition
with Smith City, New Zealand's furniture beds and a playing
store used.

Speaker 2 (05:04):
Dog Zidby thirteen after five, there's a group called White
Dudes for Harris who are supporting Kamala Harris, including Jeff
Bridges and Mark Ruffalo, the actors, and they are putting
ten million dollars into ads for swing states. Have a listen, hey,
waite dudes.

Speaker 4 (05:19):
So I think we're all pretty sick of hearing how
much we suck. Every time you go online it's the
same story where the problem and yeah, some white dudes
are Trump and all his magabuddies rut there making it worse,
shouting nonsense in their stupid red hats and acting like
they speak for us when they don't.

Speaker 2 (05:36):
Does that make anyone else cringe? And what happened to
the good old days when actors and musicians would just
you know, sing and act ray and bridge. The government
wants to reduce the number of jury trials to address
backlogs in the court system. So to do this, to
get a jury trial at the moment, you must be
charged with an offense which carries a maximum penalty of
two years or more in prison. They want to up

(05:58):
that two, three or four years, the being that fewer
people will have the option of a jury trial and
will speed the whole thing up. Philip Morgan is Casey
is a barrister. He's with us this morning. Philip, good morning,
Good morning you thank you for being here. Do you
think this is going to work? I have my doubt.

Speaker 6 (06:16):
I meanly, I approad anything to try and to produce
the backlog and the courts, But I question the number
of jury trials that will drop merely because the threshold
of two years in prison unt or more has changed

(06:37):
to three years of prisonment or more, or even four
years imprisonment or more. That's because I think that the
number of ury trials which proceed to trial for which
the most serious offense in the Crown charge notice is
an offense of lible to term of imprisonment for two

(07:01):
or three years or more. I think that the number
of such cases is very small.

Speaker 2 (07:07):
Okay, what is the hit rate? Guilty v? Not guilty?
Jury verse judge? You know, what do you advise your clients?

Speaker 6 (07:18):
There isn't an answer to rate, And what I tend
to advise my clients is that there are advantages and
disadvantages in acting either judge alone or judge and jury,
and they need to make a decision based on a
series of criteria. These days, it's fair to say that

(07:43):
there's no real advantage to a defendant in deciding to
go judge alone compared to a gingury. So it is
certainly in terms of your initial election, where do you
ultimately stay and have it with the election for trial

(08:07):
by jury or change it back to judge alone. You
know that will vary from case to case a well, and.

Speaker 2 (08:16):
You can get some benefits by doing that, can't you?
If you pick judge alone, do you have to do
judge alone?

Speaker 6 (08:25):
Ordinarily, yes, it's difficult to persuade a court once you've
elected judge alone or you've not made an election of
trial by jury to be able to change this to
judge alone.

Speaker 2 (08:38):
And that's part of the problem, isn't it, Because that's
why everyone goes, well, I'll do jury and then I
can always flip to judge alone later. Yeah, yeah, I agree,
and draws the pro whole process out, which deflects the purpose.
Yeah yeah, all right, Hey, thanks very much for your time.
That's Philip Morgan case with us. He's say barrister talking
there about the government's plans to try and I am

(08:59):
an applaud for doing something I guess try and reduce
the backlog in our court system, because, as they say,
justice delayed is justice denied. Seventeen minutes after five, news
Talk said be Ian Kirkpatrick.

Speaker 3 (09:11):
Next the news you need this morning and the in
depth analysis early edition with Ryan Bridge and Fifth City,
New Zealand's furniture beds and a playing store.

Speaker 2 (09:21):
News Talk said, be really interesting story out of Sweden
this morning. We'll get to it after the news at
five point thirty. You know Greta Thunburg, she was the
catalyst for getting a tax on flying introduced. Something has
happened to that tax. I'll tell you about it after
five thirty. Right now, the All Blacks are facing a
big text to test this weekend as the first match
in the Bledderslow Cup gets underway against the Wallabyes in Sydney.

(09:42):
It's been almost two weeks since the back to back
losses against South Africa, so what's going wrong and do
they have time to fix it all? Of course Australia
is not looking that great themselves, are they. Ian Kirkpatrick
is the former All Blacks captain. Ian, who do you
think is going to win?

Speaker 7 (09:57):
You can, you can say what you like about the
previous games, but this is just a different one altogether.
And so if they're All Blacks can start like they
did against the swoon Box and Joeburt, I think we've
got you know, we got a good chance, but you know,
might take half the game to sort of wear them
down or get on top of them. Who knows, you know,

(10:18):
it's just a you know, this game now is about
it's about physicality and so the team that's up on
or we'll say up for it on the day, yeah,
they're the ones that will come out. So it's sort
of you know, it's yeah, there's I say fifty to fifty,
but we like to think it might be better than that.

(10:39):
But the point you start predicting too much is on
most cases are pretty wrong.

Speaker 2 (10:47):
Well, I'm glad we've got you on the line. And
how do you rate raise us so far? How's he doing?

Speaker 7 (10:55):
Oh, look, he's had a you know, he's got the
newest team with those guys that were tired after the
World Cup, and those guys are there for a long time,
so you know, there was a pretty good team bonding
in that team and this one's you know, a new
new era just about. So yeah, it's it was wasn't

(11:18):
always going to be easy, not going over to sturg
for two in a row there. I mean, that's that's
a pretty big call. So you know, I wouldn't I
wouldn't judge raises. You know, if it's so far, it's
too early yet. What these guys are. You know, they
will settle into a pretty good, you know, pretty good team.

(11:38):
I think that, you know, the teams, I don't think
you'd picked a better team than this, I would have thought.
So it's really how they come out on the day
and how the opposition sort of play against them. We
don't you know, they don't know, they're trying to work
out each other what they might be doing or what
they could do, but it doesn't always work out that
way either. So it's it's you know, what they're going

(12:00):
to play with in front of them. That's a sort
of a modern sort of cliche.

Speaker 2 (12:07):
In summer, you would say you're positive, cautiously optimistic about
the state of rugby and New Zealand. You think, give
it some time, let them better, and they've got the
right team, the coach will get there and eventually we'll
get one over South Africa.

Speaker 7 (12:21):
Yeah, I think so, you know, I think you know,
we're in New Zealand. If you look at NPC and
Super Rugby, you know, the teams want to play an
open game. I don't. It's not you know, I think
there could be a better game to play than this.
The rules and such that. It's combative. There's no space anymore,
and it's all about taking it up and trying to

(12:43):
get over the advantage line. You know with Savage was
there big men. It's sort of about about size, which
is not what the game is really all about really,
to be honest. It's about running into space like we
did in you know, Post ninety six, and.

Speaker 2 (13:02):
That was the n Kirkpatrick, former All Blacks captain with
US twenty three minutes after five. That game you can
hear on Newstalalk, said b Tomorrow, Brian Bread. So it's
interesting these Wall Streets, well they're called darlings of Wall
Street when they all pile on and have a bit
of a love affair with companies. The latest is clean
jet fuel, so this will mean that you can fly

(13:24):
without the guilt, not that anyone actually feels guilty when
they go flying anyway. Have you ever sat there thinking, oh, gosh,
I must think about the planet. No, you're just thinking
about where you're going anyway. So the latest company is
called twelve and they've managed to raise six hundred and
forty five million dollars from backers. This is private equity.
Alaska Airlines has put money in with them too. Their
value is now billion dollars and basically what it is,

(13:46):
and there's about six or seven companies like this, startup
companies like this. It's synthetic fuel that they're creating, so
they're using chemicals to make jet fuel rather than fossil fuels.
It's a bit like I suppose it's a bit like
artificial sweetness instead of you know, a stevia instead of
a sugar. It's supposedly not going to make you fat,

(14:07):
not going to burn the atmosphere and warm the planet.
So anyway, they have managed to raise for themselves six
hundred and forty five million dollars in a capital raise
and they are not the only one either. Twenty four
minutes after five, news Talk said be more on Mount
Rupehu and why we don't need to be worried about
that coming away shortly the early.

Speaker 3 (14:27):
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Speaker 2 (14:32):
I have not seen Christopher Luxen this tetchy and brassed
off before the freaking target? Can we get that again, Leo?
The freaking targets? He says, it's the freaking targets. He
was answering a question about the National gang List. The
cops have been sanitizing the list, hygienically cleaning the list, spraying,

(14:53):
wiping the list. It apparently is to remove people who
are dead who obviously shouldn't be on the list, and
people who have said goodbye to thug life already. The
reason he's worked is up is he keeps getting asked
about the targets, they're off track and he's being peppered
or assaulted, depending on how you look at it. With
questions violent crime victimizations up not down, and this morning

(15:15):
in the Herald, beneficiary numbers projected up not down. The
question for the government and all of us is whether
the targets are worth it. Politically for Luxen, they're clearly
causing some frustration. Hence the fracking targets comment. It's the
political cost that he is enduring and is it worth it?
The constant updates and the inquisition are they worth the

(15:39):
end result? And the answer, of course is yes. Ask
anyone who is successful how they got there, and they
will usually say small, intentional, planned steps in a particular direction.
Things don't just happen in life. You have to make
them happen, and you have to plan to make them happen.
We all have targets in our own lives. We do

(16:01):
you want to be in ten years? We do you
want to be in five years? I want to run
a marathon by the time I'm forty. I want to
retire at fifty five. Whatever it is. You don't set
the target. If you don't set a target, it'll likely
never happen, and that's what happened with the last lot.
They got rid of a whole bunch of them. Remember,
make no mistake, these targets will be the making or
breaking of lux and the key issue that could unseat

(16:23):
him in twenty twenty nine. He has set the goals.
Now he needs to meet them and perhaps just perhaps
be a little less touchy when he's asked about them
along the way. A freaking target. Ryan Bridge, twenty eight
minutes after five. It must be annoying. I've always thought,
because I used to be in the press gallery in
Parliament and be in those scrums, and I often thought,

(16:47):
we must be so annoying because you just badger, badger, badger, constant, constant, constant.
And it's because you're normally because you're trying to get
a genuine answer to a question, and it can be
frustrating on both sides. But I've always looking at them
thinking sometimes I do feel sorry for them, not Lucks
in particular, but just sometimes politicians. I think there's twenty

(17:09):
of us and one of you. You know, anyway, it
is coming up to news at half five, and then
I will tell you about why Grisha Grisha Thunberg is
upset in Sweden this morning.

Speaker 7 (17:22):
Four labor or hanging out the past.

Speaker 3 (17:30):
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Speaker 2 (17:36):
You taught to be just got one quarter to six now.
Gavin Gray is our UK and Europe correspondent. Five women
say that they've been raped by the former Herold's boss,
Muhammed al Fayed, of course, father of Dodie al Fayed.

Speaker 8 (17:48):
Gavin, Yes, indeed, run so. Muhammed al Fayed was a
very colorful figure. He died last year at the age
of ninety four. Colorful figure because for many years he
ran the luxury London apart and store Harold's, became sort
of a bit of a TV personality as well, ingratiated
himself with the royal family, and of course, as you said,

(18:09):
his son later died in a car crash, having been
partnered alongside Diana, the Princess of Wales back in nineteen
ninety seven. Indeed, the new generation beginning to know the
Alphaeds through the series of The Crown. But it is
tonight Muhammad al Faired and his relationship with his former
female ex employees. They are claiming that the billionaire raped

(18:32):
them or at least sexually assaulted them. Now twenty have
come forward in total, and they say that Harold's not
only failed to intervene, but they actually helped cover up
abuse allegations when al Faired was owning it and in
charge of it. Harold's current owners say they're utterly apport
by the allegations and that his victims had been jailed

(18:52):
for what the store sincerely apologized and the fired faced
sexual assault claims while he was alive. Ryan that these
allegations now are much much more serious and of an
unprecedented scale.

Speaker 2 (19:05):
Absolutely, he did. The UK prisoners that were released as
part of the overcrowding deal to reduce the numbers in
the prisons, what's happened with their bracelets?

Speaker 8 (19:15):
Yeah, what a very very good question, Ryan. Many of
them were supposed to be wearing these tags, electronic tags
so that the authorities can keep an on them, they
know where they are and sometimes they have to attend
a police station as well. Of course, some one seven
hundred prisoners were let out early in England and Wales
last week because of overcrowding in prisons. Now we learn

(19:37):
that some of them were released, but weren't given electronic
tagging devices despite it being a condition of their release.
The Ministry Justice is blaming the contractor and saying there's
been a shortage of the tag. So not only is
there a shortened prison spaces, but they were still allowed
out early and then we learned as a shortage of
the tags. The contractor says is to everything you can

(20:01):
to rectify this. The government is threating some sort of
compensation deal if the situation isn't sorted out either. But
there are some in the justice industry, as it were,
in the justice sector who are saying this is a
disaster waiting to happen, allowing out these people without at tag.
And incidentally, if you wondered, the Chief Inspector Probation believes

(20:23):
about one in three of those released early will re offend.

Speaker 2 (20:29):
Ken that is the dumbest thing I've heard this morning, Kevin,
Thank you very much for that, Kevin Gray, who's our
UK and Europe correspondent. Imagine getting you know, or line
them all up, the doors open and you say, oh,
we've run out of tag, so you can go anyway.
Who may they call? Twelve away from six Ryan Bridge
bitter than expected, but still bad. That seems to be

(20:51):
the vert on our GDP data out yesterday, dowe point
two percent for the June quarter. Will that hinder our
chances of more and maybe bigger rate cuts this year
before Christmas? Nick Tuughley is asb's two economist.

Speaker 5 (21:02):
Nick, good morning, Good morning.

Speaker 2 (21:04):
What do you reckon? Well, what does it affect what
you've seen yesterday our chances of cuts this year?

Speaker 5 (21:12):
No, it doesn't. The Reserve Bank will be cutting anyway.
The Reserve Bank was expecting a slightly weakened number, but
it's not going to go fuel. Let's keep rates where
they are now. It's of the view that it's got
inflation under control. And the thing is that we need
to see the cash rate get from over five percent
down to something a bit over three percent, which is
a more neutral level, reasonably quickly. So they'll keep cutting rates.

Speaker 2 (21:35):
How soon do you reckon? We'll get to that three percent.

Speaker 5 (21:40):
If they cut at a quarter percent every single meeting.
They've only got seven meetings a year, then we're talking
about say about this time next year, round around October
next year now, because that's a long time to have
rates essentially still with the foot on the brake, there
is that possibility that we do get a larger cut,

(22:00):
say later this year or early next year. But it's
really going to depend on whether inflation starts to look
like it's falling a loter than what the Reserve Bank's
been anticipating that.

Speaker 2 (22:11):
Potential for a fifty basis point cut. How does the
summer break, because obviously they go away for some of them,
not back to February. How does that affect the potential
for it to be either this side or the other
side of Christmas.

Speaker 5 (22:23):
Well, it does mean that you have this chance that
you do get a bigger cut, and that's what financial
markets have been building it, and financial markets have been
building in a very strong chance that you get large
cuts it either or both of those meeting. It's got
a huge amount built in over that period. So look

(22:43):
at it's certainly a risk. It's going to depend on
what the data is looking like, particularly some of the
labor market data that we get an early November ahead
of the Reserve banks last decision of the year, and
also the inflation figures that it seems before that last
decision of the year.

Speaker 2 (22:57):
Immigration. How worried are you about because obviously it props
up our GDP. How worried are you about potential for
net zero migration to New Zealand next year?

Speaker 5 (23:07):
Well, from an inflation point of view, it's probably potentially
a bit helpful, and we don't need the people in
the workforce like we did a couple of years where
we sort of went from sort of like fam to
feast and now we do face some pretty weak need
immigration next year. But look, the thing about net immigration
is it's about the pace and the type of people

(23:30):
that we are getting, and as well and looking over
longer term, having migration that's not going in such big
swims so you can cope better from the infrastructure is
really important, and also who's coming and who's going out.
It's really important as well from the sorts of skills
that we need.

Speaker 2 (23:45):
All Right, Nick, thank you very much for that update.
Great TV on the show is always Nick Tufley, Chief
economist at ASB. Just gone nine minutes away from.

Speaker 3 (23:52):
Sex Bryan Bridge.

Speaker 2 (24:00):
So you know you're a young person, you want to
go on a joy ride, steal a car, do something bad,
maybe do a ram raid, something like that. There's a
teenager in New York who's just elevated this to a
whole new level and stolen a subway train. She and
her friend She's seventeen years old, from Queen's, New York.

(24:20):
They accused of entering and operating the train, then causing
a collision, so basically a joy ride and then a
crash in a subway train. The best part of the story.
These surveillance images released by police showed one suspect dressed
fully in pink, including a shower cap, and a second
person wearing blue blue still on the run. Pinky has

(24:41):
been caught. It is eight to.

Speaker 9 (24:43):
Six on the program. In fact, you do too. I
look through the double glazing at Oldly.

Speaker 10 (24:56):
Oh there, and they need what you would loosely call
god idance, Yeah, as to as to as to what's
acceptable and what's not acceptable. And I'll put this out
there now, seeing you if you've made this so public,
little Sammy, Little Sammy said the in fact was was
it not? The first thing he said to me this morning.

Speaker 2 (25:14):
Was like an excited puppy exactly.

Speaker 10 (25:17):
And what I like to do is start the day
on a positive note. And so we and so the
first thing he goes is, hey, Helen Clark's available, So
that immediately puts me in a bad mood, and I said,
really is she how exciting? He goes, now, what time
would you like her? And I go, well, not today,
I said, let's I did say, let's get her on
the show and see what sort of text feedback we'll

(25:38):
get on that.

Speaker 2 (25:38):
It's already come in because she was in the news.

Speaker 9 (25:43):
I haven't said, I cannot see the screen. Correct me
if I'm wrong.

Speaker 10 (25:46):
Has the text said? Does the text say something like
why would you bother pulling it?

Speaker 9 (25:51):
Exactly?

Speaker 2 (25:51):
And where is a doern? She did too?

Speaker 9 (25:54):
Exactly?

Speaker 10 (25:55):
So you'll be pleased to know that we do not
have if you next two, we do not have Helling
Clark on the program.

Speaker 9 (26:02):
I thought, you know, I know what.

Speaker 10 (26:04):
I said to Sammy. I said, that'll come up in
your annual review, and it's not going to go well.

Speaker 2 (26:08):
For you because she I mean, she is a former
Prime Minister of New Zealand. She was head of the UNDP.

Speaker 10 (26:13):
Sokay, you spend some time with Sammy after the show,
because clearly you were closed out and what he wanted
to replace was the interview on a vaccine that potentially
is one going to revolutionized New Zealand economy, if not
the global economy, if not the climate change, if not
the entire rural sector.

Speaker 2 (26:33):
I said, sure, Sam, it could have been a story
about someone stubbing their toe and you would have sold
it just like this.

Speaker 9 (26:40):
If it was a stubbing the toe story, he might
have had a point. But he doesn't have a point.

Speaker 10 (26:43):
So the good news is Will Jordan is on Helen
Clark isn't all right?

Speaker 2 (26:48):
Everyone, have a great weekend. I will see you on Monday.

Speaker 3 (27:08):
On your radio and online on iHeartRadio Early Edition with
Ryan Bridge and Smith City, New Zealand's Furniture Beds and
a playing Store.

Speaker 2 (27:17):
News Talk said be five to six. Lots of people say, actually,
leave Lester Levy alone. He is doing the job of
Commissioner of Health New Zealand but also doing a couple
of days a week lecturing at a university and says,
I have done that before. He's doing seventy hours a
week in his house role. What more can you ask
of him? Mike Cosking is in the studio, He's with
you next night. Tend to agree.

Speaker 9 (27:38):
I've done the numbers.

Speaker 10 (27:39):
So if you say, he said ten to twelve hours
a day, so let's give him ten and you do
that for a seventy hour week, you do. I can't
remember it was three thy three hundred and something hours
in the year. That rolls out at ninety five for
three hundred and twenty thousand dollars that rolls out at
ninety five dollars now.

Speaker 2 (27:56):
Also, he's not running Health New Zealand. That's Auntie Arper's job.
He's just basically a.

Speaker 10 (28:01):
Direct He's a consultant who's looking at what's going on
how to fix it. So if you're putting in that
many hours for that amount of money at ninety five
dollars now because the media always get angsty about that stuff,
you know, I mean ninety five dollars now, my head
dressed charges more than that.

Speaker 9 (28:15):
So and this is a guy running the whole publicize.

Speaker 2 (28:17):
Also, he's on three twenty, but Tory's on one hundred
and ninety.

Speaker 9 (28:20):
Exit but she can't make ends meet. You've got to
sell a car to board thing.

Speaker 2 (28:24):
See you tomorrow. It's beautiful, says it. Oh.

Speaker 3 (28:30):
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