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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Low magnitude four point eight hit southwest of Poronga Hoo
just before eleven also in Wellington and this would suck.
An apartment building evacuated over structural concerns. That happened at
about midnight after their five point seven yesterday. Israel issuing
new warnings for those in southern Lebanon following fresh strikes
in Bay Roots, described as some of the worst so far.
Speaker 2 (00:21):
There were more than thirty attacks in southern suburbs of
b root Chiswila has a strong presence there, but it's
a densely populated residential area.
Speaker 1 (00:31):
Two it's one year since the war began. With the
terror attacks, We've got a statement from the Prime Minister
and Winston Peters shortly a resignation at Number ten Downing
Street overnight. No, not the new Prime Minister yet. Starmer's
chief of staff is out of there. Goodbye Sue Gray.
She's basically the fall guy for the donation scandal and
the energy payment cuts. Will it stop the bleeding? I
(00:52):
don't think so. Plus Australia's building codes, they're looking at
changing them and forcing new venues to have more toilets
for women. The study has found that at worst women
Q for thirteen minutes, men for nine minutes, disproportionately affecting
the fair.
Speaker 3 (01:07):
Sex News and Views you trust has Starne Your Day
It's early edition with Ryan Bridge and Smith City, New
Zealand's furniture beds and a flying store.
Speaker 1 (01:17):
News talk said, be honestly, they didn't spend so much
time doing their makeup.
Speaker 4 (01:21):
Ryan.
Speaker 1 (01:22):
Doesn't the Navy have insurance for the boat that's sunk?
That sank? We will ask ron Mark. I don't think so.
I spoke to a friend of mine who works has
worked in the Navy previously. He says, how do you
ensure a warship? Imagine what the premiums would be. But
we will ask ron Mark about that front page of
the Herald this morning. Fast Track to controversy. This is
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about the government's announcement yesterday of one hundred and forty
and nine projects to be included in its controversial Fast
Track Approvals legislation. One of them, and we are going
to speak to big mining or the mining industry in
a few moments time. One of them is trans Tasman Resources.
This is mining of the Taarannaki Sea bed. There was
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a Supreme Court ruling, there was an environment court. You
can imagine how many rulings there have been on this
and it's basically been stuck going nowhere and now in
walks Shane Jones, in walks Chris Bishop and Wila, this
thing will hopefully get off the ground with one hurdle
to get through rather than a thousand problem there are.
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This is according to Greenpeace and Forest and Bird and
the Green Party and the Labor Party and anyone else.
You can imagine, home to thirty species of marine mammals.
It's a migration passage for blue whales. Little blue penguins
apparently hang out here sixty five square meters. Is that
here's the other side of the coin, though the benefits
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well one Norway is apparently looking at doing this very
same thing in two hundred and eighty thousand square kilometers
of the Arctic Sea. So I mean we're a drop
in the ocean, aren't we. One billion dollars in export
receipts per year, two hundred and fifty million dollars in
royalties and tax per year, a wealth boost to New
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Zealand of one hundred and fifty billion dollars. Who cares
about the whales, you know, surely they can just go around.
It's a big ocean. This is the problem, isn't it.
When you're when your country is in such a state
as New Zealanders, you start I love the ocean. I
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swim in the ocean. I do lots of swimming in
the ocean. I love it. But you start to think
more about the fact that we need to do something,
we need to grow something in order to at least
maintain ourselves as a as a first world country. Nine
to ninety two. We'd love your views on that. This morning,
eleven after five, cry and Bridge. Yeah, so we're going
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to talk mining in just a few moments. Also this morning,
there is the new grocery supply cost indexes come out
a two point three percent increase. This is what the
suppliers charge food stuffs. It's done by infometrics, same number
as August chocolate and oil up. This is brad Olson's
outfit and there have been some criticisms of this number
(04:20):
because it's looking only at the number before discounts are applied.
So you know how everyone says the supermarket screw the
screw the suppliers down, Well, this number is pre screwing basically,
So take that with a grain of salt. It is
twelve after five, News Talk said B.
Speaker 3 (04:41):
The news you need this morning and the in depth
analysis early edition with Ryan Bridge and smit City New
Zealand's furniture beds and applying store.
Speaker 1 (04:50):
News Talk said B. Fourteen minutes after five, news Talk
said B. Are people still using Google? So the search
advertising business is worth three hundred billion dollars. This is
globally three hundred billion dollars. It's massive and Google has
an iron grip on it. However, TikTok young people these days,
the young ones, they're not using Google in the same
(05:12):
way that we might use Google, that I might use Google.
They're going on TikTok and searching through TikTok, or they're
using Ai to search as opposed to Google, so they reckon.
This is the share of the US search ad market.
Google's share expected to drop below fifty percent next year
for the first time in more than a decade. Amazon up,
(05:33):
TikTok up, Ai up, So it's a could be an
existential threat to Google. Fifteen minutes a quarter past five,
Ryan Bridge, so one hundred and forty nine projects are
set to be included in the government's Fast track approvals build.
The majority are for housing, land development, infrastructure, as well
as renewable electricity generation. Eleven mining and eight quarrying projects
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are on the list, with the hope it could help
with the government's goal to double the value of mineral
exports by twenty thirty five. Josie Vdal is with US
the Straterra Mining Chief executive. Josie, good morning, Good morning.
What do you say to the naysay is the opposition
who says this is going to wreck havoc on our environment?
Speaker 4 (06:15):
Well, first of all, I say progress and jobs are good.
Contributing to the global supply chain of minerals everyone needs
is good, and the misinformation about the bill is not
so good. So I suggest that people actually read it
and understand it. The people who are on that list
still have to make an application to the Environmental Protection
(06:37):
Authority and still be assessed under the bill once it passes. Yeah,
we say, you know.
Speaker 1 (06:44):
But the protections are greatly reduced for the environment. Ut
that I mean the environmental protections under the RMA Conservation Act,
the Wildlife Act. They can be overridden.
Speaker 4 (06:55):
We don't believe that that will happen in mining, because
responsible min in New Zealand still has to meet the
same high standards to be a global player. Basically, there's
so much pressure on companies now to report on their
environment or social and governance standards.
Speaker 5 (07:14):
So we're not going to see standards slip.
Speaker 1 (07:17):
Okay, the trans if.
Speaker 5 (07:19):
Things happen faster and more efficiency.
Speaker 1 (07:21):
The trans Tasman resources of the Tataranhaki sea bed mining,
let's look at that for example. So you've had a
Supreme Court overturning the consents, You've had the Environment Court involved,
So how can it go ahead if all of those
protections that that have already been looked at are still
in place.
Speaker 4 (07:41):
So what we had before was a system where the
only thing considered for a project was the environment by
a whole lot of people who were very fixated on
the environment. Now we can consider economic and environment. It's
slightly more appropriate.
Speaker 1 (08:02):
Okay, which is fine, Josie, because this is this is
the point I think you're you're conceding that because we're
looking wider than just environment, there will be some more
detrimental environmental impacts. But we're taking a wider view here.
Speaker 4 (08:18):
No, and I don't think there will be detrimental impacts
from mining because there's so there's been so many years
of measuring and managing them that people have the science
behind them. We have to you know, New Zealand has
to rely on science and technology and facts and evidence,
not emotion. And there's been a high amount of emotion
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in this argument. And you know t here I have done.
There's spent millions of dollars on science to show that
what the impact of the seam with mining their planning
is and it's pretty low impact.
Speaker 1 (08:54):
So species, no species will go extinct like they're claiming.
You know, it's home thirty species of marine mammals. We
won't lose.
Speaker 4 (09:02):
Any Well, the research in science that TTR of God
suggests that that's a very turbulent part of the coast
and the sea beard is being churned up all the
time anyway. So you know, they have presented science and
they will continue to present science to the Environmental Protection
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Authority when they go through their application.
Speaker 1 (09:26):
All right, Josie, thank you very much for your time
this morning, really appreciate it. Just before you go, Josie,
you're expecting any more protest now that this is this
list has come out because you had those ones on
the terrace well.
Speaker 4 (09:38):
I think it's unfortunate as I say that people aren't
following what is actually happening and I'm basically making stuff up.
So yeah, they probably they will protest because that's what
they do. That's a job for them.
Speaker 1 (09:53):
Fair enough, ye, Jase, thank you, I say, go science. Jase,
thank you for your time. Really appreciate your getting up
for us this morning. Joseph vdel who is with Straterra,
that's the Mining Association group, and one of their clients
is trans Tasman Resources, who are looking at doing the
Tadanhaki Sea bed mining. The benefits, as I mentioned earlier,
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a billion dollars in export receipts per year, two hundred
and fifty million dollars in royal who's attacks and an
estimated wealth boost of one hundred and fifty billion dollars
over the lifetime of the project. What do you reckon?
Nine two nineteen after five.
Speaker 3 (10:26):
The first word on the News of the Day early
edition with Ryan Bridge and Smith City, New Zealand's Furniture
Beds and a playing store.
Speaker 1 (10:34):
News Talk Zippy twenty two minutes after five, loads of
feedback coming in on the fast Track Bill, which the
government has named the projects. Now we have a list
of one hundred and forty nine projects. We'll get to
that feedback in just a second. Also Ron Mark, the
Defense minister who worded the ship that sunk off the
coast of Sama on the show just before six, Gavin
Gray after the news at five point thirty right now
Sport and the Andrew Ordison is with us this morning.
(10:57):
Good morning, greetings, right and you a lot going on elsewhere?
Is that is? But Nral the Panthers have.
Speaker 6 (11:03):
Made it for in a row they have, indeed, and
another piece of history really for Ivan Cleary the coach
and his team and of course son Nathan. But just
that team performance again holding on against Melbourne fourteen six,
and yeah, just part of I mean it hasn't been
seen before in the modern ear. I mean you have
to go back to nineteen sixty six, Saint George eleven
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in a row, South Sydney with five in row in
nineteen twenty nine.
Speaker 1 (11:29):
But this is just rare territory. They've just got such poise.
Speaker 6 (11:33):
Just seeing last night the defense that the penis side
shown under pressure with a couple of controversial moments. Is
that need to be addressed at some point? Cameron Munsters
is alleged to have been involved in a biting incident
on Paul Alamotti. And also there was a try in
the fiftieth minute that went to the bunk and was
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or at least they got across the line, but whether
or not they got it down was debated.
Speaker 1 (12:00):
Did appear that the ball seemed to touch the turf?
Did he bite him because apparently the ref said, I
don't know. All I saw was saliva. Did he some teeth,
any bloods?
Speaker 6 (12:14):
It's just I'm always sort of perplexed by these biting situations,
and you think that's one thing you can keep your
trap shut. I suppose when you're when you're a tackle
or whatever.
Speaker 1 (12:24):
But the last thing I would want to do is
bite somebody. Dear, oh dear, I'm with you, with you,
there's no biting in netball, not that we know of
you too much to go on for that. But we've
beaten England, that's.
Speaker 6 (12:35):
Right, So I mean dead rub a match and in
for cargo, but still at least some Constellation consolation ahead
of the Constellation Cup four New Zealand against Australia.
Speaker 1 (12:44):
But they've they've beaten.
Speaker 6 (12:45):
England sixty one fifty six so England coming back in
the third quarter eighteen fifteen, but New Zealand a fairly
firm grip on that that fixture.
Speaker 1 (12:55):
And tak taken out the ren Philly shell.
Speaker 6 (12:58):
It's gone to Taranaki for the summer. In defending champions
in the n PC, I mean they're looking good again
this year and Wellington top of the table. I think
Tablacki's second Tasman there but beating Tasman and they haven't
had the shield since twenty twenty. In that instance, they
didn't even get to defend it for a match. I
think it was taken the following week by target I
think from reclection.
Speaker 1 (13:19):
So getting it for the first time in four years.
No nice. I actually watched the game the other day.
I don't know how. I came across at Andrew Yes
looking at it and it was in New Plymouth and
the Yarrow Stadium. Yes, half of it's been renovated, but
it just looked like there was no one that wanted
to go watch the rugby. It's kind of a show.
The camera angle was a shame.
Speaker 6 (13:35):
Yeah, but I think that was quite good. Never wed
describe bout there hit your camera ang or I get
to get the one hundred people will say that you
know exactly those patches.
Speaker 1 (13:44):
Anyway, Andrew, thank you for that and the ab' squad
announcement today. Yes, isn't it two o'clock? So we'll keep
an eye on at as well for it on ZB
Andrew Ordison with us for sport this morning. Twenty five
minutes after five year on News Talk said B coming
up next. Why we deserve some quick answers over this vessel.
The Navy vessels thinking the Manawanui twenty seven after five
(16:06):
News Talk ZEBB Why the sinking of the Manawanui? Why?
It's the question we all want answered this morning, but
what we are likely to get is a bunch of speculation.
The first most important question has been answered. Is the
crew safe? Yes? Mostly thankfully and by the sounds of it,
thanks in large part to help from others and the
decision to abandon ship, plus a dose of good luck.
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Some of the crew spent five hours in life rafts.
Can you imagine battling the conditions to make it to
show one capsize before getting there? But we have so
many whys? How comes We've just lost our first navy
vessel since World War II? Worth one hundred billion bucks
just gone up and smoke sunk to the bottom of
the ocean. Why did the Munawanu hit a reef? Was
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it human error? Was it mechanical failure? What happened on
the bridge in the moments leading up to the collision?
Where was the officer of the watch? Were there no
alarms that sound before something like this happens. Was it
the weather? Why was it surveying so close to a
non reef at night? Why did it catch fire? We
have so many questions and so far zero answers. We
know the sea was rough, the wind was strong, but
(17:12):
that's about it. The Navy and the Minister both say
we'll wait for a court of inquiry. But is that
good enough. Surely they have some idea of what went wrong.
By now, what's the harm in the public knowing what happened?
Can we not handle the truth? We've been here before,
remember the entire islander grounding. There were crickets until New
Zealand first started tweeting up a storm. We learned from
(17:35):
the Northland Pylon debarcle that officials pretty much knew straight
away what went wrong. But we wait for inquiries and
reports and courts to tell us the truth months later. This,
I think is more media management than investigation integrity. And
the problem with this strategy is the void gets filled
(17:57):
with a bunch of speculation rather than facts at least
as established thus far, and a little bit of accuracy.
A little bit of accurate information is surely better than
a whole bunch of the opposite. Bryan Bridge, twenty nine
minutes after five. You're on News Talk SEBB the early.
Speaker 3 (18:19):
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Speaker 1 (18:25):
Twenty seven after five News Talk ZIBB. Why the thinking
of the Manawanui? Why? It's the question we all want
answered this morning, But what we are likely to get
is a bunch of speculation. The first most important question
has been answered. Is the crew safe? Yes? Mostly thankfully
and by the sounds of it, thanks in large part
to help from others and the decision to abandon ship,
(18:46):
plus a dose of good luck. Some of the crew
spent five hours in life rafts. Can you imagine battling
the conditions to make it to show one capsize before
getting there? But we have so many whys? How comes
We've just lost our first navy vessel since World War II?
Worth one hundred billion bucks just gone up and smoke
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sank to the bottom of the ocean. Why did the
money who hit a reef? Was it human error? Was
it mechanical failure? What happened on the bridge in the
moments leading up to the collision? Where was the officer
of the watch? Were there no alarms that sound before
something like this happens. Was it the weather? Why was
it surveying so close to a non reef at night?
Why did it catch fire? We have so many questions
(19:28):
and so far zero answers. We know the sea was rough,
the wind was strong, but that's about it. The Navy
and the minister both say we'll wait for a court
of inquiry. But is that good enough. Surely they have
some idea of what went wrong. By now, what's the
harm in the public knowing what happened? Can we not
handle the truth? We've been here before, remember the entire
(19:48):
islander grounding. There were crickets until New Zealand first started
tweeting up a storm. We learned from the Northland Pylon
debarcle that officials pretty much knew straight away what went wrong.
But we wait for inquiries and reports and courts to
tell us the truth months later. This I think is
(20:10):
more media management than investigation integrity. And the problem with
this strategy is the void gets filled with a bunch
of speculation rather than facts at least as established thus far,
and a little bit of accuracy. A little bit of
accurate information is surely better than a whole bunch of
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the opposite. Bryan Bridge, twenty nine minutes after five, You're
on News Talk SETB.
Speaker 3 (20:42):
First with the News, First with the Views, its early
edition with Ryan Bridge and Smith's City. This is News Talks,
had been news.
Speaker 2 (20:51):
Good morning, It's five point thirty. I'm never ready.
Speaker 1 (20:54):
Manu.
Speaker 2 (20:55):
The longer the hm NZ it is Manawanui stays in
the ocean, the worst comes for the nearby environment. The
navy vessel ran aground on Saturday night, then caught fire
and sank off the Sarmon coast yesterday morning. All seventy
five people on board were rescued. It was conducting a
survey around one nautical mile off shore when it struck
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the reef. A Court of inquiry will probe what led
to its sinking. It's the first time the Navy's loster
ship during peacetime. New Zealand Defense Force personnel have been
deployed to Sarmour to help the cleanup and aid the crew.
Marine ecologist Phil Ross says how badly the marine life
is affected will depend on how much they can salvage
off the reef.
Speaker 5 (21:36):
For me will be Philly, pristine, have a huge amount
of biodiversity.
Speaker 4 (21:40):
You know, it would have been a pretty spectacular place.
Speaker 2 (21:42):
I imagine tragedy for the community. After a vehicle went
into Marlborough's to a marina river near Blenhim. Five people
were in the car as it plunged into the river
off the intersection of State Highway I and Bush Road
in the early hours of yesterday morning. Two of the
occupants escaped the vehicle and are in hospital with moderate injuries.
Police divers found the cart submerged in the river around midday,
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recovering the three bodies still inside. The government's making it
clear projects on its Fast Track Approvals Bill are not
set in stone. Infrastructure Minister Chris Bishop selected one hundred
and forty nine projects to be listed on the bill.
They include infrastructure, housing, mining and electricity developments, as well
as a revamp of Eden Park Stadium. Bishop says once
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the bill is back from the Environment Committee. Each project
will then need to go before an expert panel.
Speaker 5 (22:33):
We're also recommending to the Select Committee that the panels
will have the ability to turn down projects.
Speaker 2 (22:38):
Meanwhile, Forest and Bird Advocacy General Manager Richard Cappy says
they've been fighting some of the listed projects for years.
He says their developments like coal mining, stripping native forest
on conservation land, and ones that damage the ocean. A
renewed push for more tangible support for Palestinians from the government.
Today marks a year since the October seven harmactan on Israel,
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initiating an ongoing war. World Vision New Zealand head of
Advocacy and Justice Rebecca Armstrong told the front Page podcast
they want the government to issue humanitarian visas. She says,
they also want the government to provide full resettlement assistance
for Palestinians with family members here.
Speaker 1 (23:17):
It would provide some hope a tangible path for Palestinians,
signaling that once movement as possible, it can leave a
conflict zone.
Speaker 2 (23:25):
Fire and Emergency have been using drones overnight to check
and now contained fire in a remote part of the
Far North. A vegetation fire broke out between Herdechno and
Ahipata on Saturday morning. It's burned one hundred and seventy
seven headtears within a perimeter of seven point one kilometers.
Thomas Rice is more.
Speaker 7 (23:44):
There is no active fire front and Fire and Emergency
have been working with forestry firefighters with heavy machinery. They've
been supported by helicopters to ensure what the containment holds.
Cruise today will be on the ground checking for any
small hot spots.
Speaker 2 (24:01):
A warning to Southland boaties to be aware of changing
river conditions. It follows two accidents on the Oritti River
within a fortnight. Record rainfalls over winter means Southlands rivers
are experiencing high flows, changing waterways.
Speaker 6 (24:19):
Today's talks, he'd be sports Pendroth have secured the Estatus
is Australian League's greatest club team since nineteen sixty six,
claiming their fourth straight premiership fourteen to six over Melbourne
in the NRL Final. Second ra and Triscore Liam Martin
claimed the Clive Churchill Medal for Player of the match.
Speaker 1 (24:37):
He was his initial reaction, oh.
Speaker 6 (24:39):
Well before he collected his thoughts on Sky Sport.
Speaker 1 (24:45):
Oh I've gone, then have your boys drag me along?
And then are you guys. The fans just love you, guys,
thank you so much.
Speaker 4 (24:53):
We don't hear.
Speaker 6 (24:55):
Love you only South Sydney in nineteen twenty nine with
five Premier shi in Saint George in nineteen sixty six
with eleven have had more consecutive success in our old
coverage with Pitstop get a free warrantor fitness check with
every easy service. New Zealand have beaten England sixty one
fifty six in the third and final Dead Rubber Tiny
Jamison Trophy Netball Test to lose the series two to one,
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and in Vericago, the Silver Fern has lost third quarter
eighteen fifteen, but otherwise maintained a firm grip on the fixture.
Their next series is the Constellation Cup against Australia, starting
in Wellington on October twenty. Captain Amita and Eginasi has
told Sky Sport the Diamonds will require more application.
Speaker 8 (25:36):
It'll just be figuring out what important things we've got
to take forward.
Speaker 2 (25:39):
But we know we have to step up again and
it's important that we learn fast.
Speaker 6 (25:43):
Koko Goff's taken her second tennis title this season and
eighth in her career, with a straight sets victory of
a Carolina Mukova in the final of the China Open.
The twenty year old American became the youngest champion at
the event in fourteen years. She's maintained a perfect record
of seven victories in hardcore WTA finals. In Premier League Football,
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Chelsea and Nottingham Forest have drawn one all. The Manchester
United and Aston Villa have drawn nil all. Tottenham lead
Brighton two nil at halftime. I'm Andrew Alderson and that's
News Talks. He'd be News and sport to twenty five
minutes to six.
Speaker 1 (26:18):
That's apparently a worry something you should be concerned about
this morning, twenty two minutes away from six.
Speaker 3 (26:23):
Bryan Bridge, going.
Speaker 1 (26:24):
To our reporters around the country. Callum Proctor is in
the need and for us, Colum, we missed you on Friday.
Everything all right at your place.
Speaker 9 (26:32):
Look a bit damp, Ryan, but certainly not as bad
as many other residents around the city. It's been a
weekend of cleaning up, that's for sure, after Friday's floods.
As of four o'clock yesterday, though here, Dunedin's state of
emergency was lifted, as was the case for the Kluther district.
Look the strain as we know, saw residents evacuated, roads closed,
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many slips and also problems with water supply. Mayor Jills
Raddick says there's been a considerable number of slips. That's
their priority now with a few homes read sticket as
a result in the next few weeks of recovery for
that may take some time. He says, skips will be
available for residents and collections will take place to help
dispose of sandbags and rubbish. State Highway eighty eight to
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Port Charmers due to reopen at six o'clock this morning.
Speaker 1 (27:17):
Callum, how is your weather looking today? I know you've
got some bad weather coming back later in the week,
but today.
Speaker 9 (27:23):
Well showers this afternoon, some possibly thundery, says the Met Service,
so we'll keep an eye on them. Light wins today's
high seventeen.
Speaker 1 (27:30):
All right, okay, thank you for that clear Surewards and
christ Church Claire. Good morning to you locals looking to
buy a slice of Banks Peninsula.
Speaker 8 (27:37):
Yes, s Lebon's Bay Conservation Trust has been hoping to
raise four hundred and fifty thousand dollars for a thirty
nine hectare property on Old Wolf Road. Its intention is
to use this land to create a reserve, to do
some planting and also protect native wildlife. The Trust turned
to crowdfunding in order to raise the funds it needs.
Speaker 4 (27:58):
Jefferson.
Speaker 8 (27:58):
Matthew McDonald says, with two undred and seventy five thousand
dollars in the bag, it is clear that people want
to preserve the environment. That's exactly what he wanted, something
which will be a lasting legacy from the people of
twenty twenty five to the people of twenty one twenty five.
The trust has until March to raise the funds it needs.
McDonald's adamant they'll.
Speaker 1 (28:17):
Get there all right. How's your weather today?
Speaker 2 (28:18):
Clear, often cloudy.
Speaker 8 (28:20):
There is the chance of some fog today, some afternoon
and evening showers, possibly heavy and thundery, light winds and
a maximum of twenty Thank you.
Speaker 1 (28:28):
Lots of questions coming in on the Manawanui. Andrew and
Taranaki says, I have a question about this. How many
hells does a real navy ship have? How many hells
does the Manawannui have? I believe money was saved by
building it with a single hell. We bought it off.
Was it the Norwegians? We bought it off Norway. It
was a surveying ship for mining up in Norway. So
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we're going to ask ron Mark all these questions right
now though, we're going to Claudia O'Neil for our Wellington
News Claudia, good morning. Wellington City Council starting to chase
down those who aren't paying their rates.
Speaker 10 (29:02):
Yes, so a small number of disgruntled rates payers in
the capital are boycotting the twenty one percent average rates increase.
Pens and A. Julie roll Off and her her husband
have been living it in their home for their sorry
let me talk again, and her husband have been living
in their home for thirty years, but fear of rates
continue to increase, they won't be able to afford it anymore.
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She's decided to take his stand and is refusing to
pay the increase, only paying her rates bill at last
year's level. A handful of other rate payers of following suit,
and the councils declining to comment.
Speaker 1 (29:33):
Oh okay, that sounds spicy. I say good on them.
But in the end the council does come for you,
don't they remember Penny Bright refused to pay rates and
then they said, well we'll take your house off you
Claudia House. See Wellington weather.
Speaker 10 (29:46):
Today cloudy, curious hours later in the day and a
high of sixteen degree.
Speaker 1 (29:50):
Thank you neveras and Auckland. Good morning, Neva, Good morning.
Speaker 2 (29:53):
Claudia's leaving so I'm going to grab her here because
time's a tough one. We've only got one cheer. Came
back from Wellington.
Speaker 1 (30:00):
Ah, yes, yes, right nice, yeah nephews twenty First.
Speaker 2 (30:04):
Can I say I missed the quake. I slept through it.
I was parting till two am, and then I went
back to the hotel room and went to sleep. I know,
and then I thought, is that a noise? I thought
it was the next door, you know that the people
next door. I thought it was the headboard. I went,
is that people next door?
Speaker 1 (30:19):
And I went, is it? And then I went back
to sleep.
Speaker 2 (30:22):
And then when I woke up at eight am, everyone
or there was so many terist there for a while.
I was really good vibe there in Wellington, and everyone
in the hotel was talking about it. They were all
quite shaken. Eye said, what about you miss Did you
feel it? I mean I missed it completely.
Speaker 7 (30:35):
I was fast asleep.
Speaker 1 (30:36):
Oh that's probably a good thing. Hey, how's the weather?
In Auckland today.
Speaker 2 (30:39):
Okay, well look there's a oh the weather rain possibly heavy,
was scawny, thunderstorms turning to showers this morning, then easing
this afternoon. Bit of a mixed bad but we've got
strong winds as well. Still warm, high of twenty quite Maggie.
Speaker 1 (30:53):
Last night I have to say in bed sixteen and
a half degrees at midnight.
Speaker 6 (30:57):
Oh my god.
Speaker 11 (30:58):
And because it's currently sixteen now.
Speaker 1 (31:00):
Oh so basically the same thing. Neva, Thank you very
much for that. That's Neva in Auckland for us and
our reporters around the country, eighteen minutes away from six
just before six. Ron Mark on the Manamanui. Also next,
Gavin Gray out of the UK. You're on news Talk
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Look at the monominerin a sick and right now. Though
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Europe correspondent Gavin good morning to you.
Speaker 12 (32:25):
Morning there.
Speaker 1 (32:26):
Tell us there's been a resignation at Number ten.
Speaker 12 (32:30):
Yes, Sue Gray. Now she's not an MP, she's not
a member of the cabinet. She is instead the chief
of staff for Secure Starmer or should I say our
Prime Minister's former chief of staff. Because she has resigned
she was caught up in lots of rows about pay
materialized she was being paid more than the Prime minister.
That was leaked by dissatisfied colleagues who had actually taken
(32:52):
a pay cup. And also it was really last few
weeks have been dominated by freebies, by the donations given
to the Prime Minister, his wife and indeed to other
ministers that I don't know, many say not been handled
very well. So Sue Gray is going to move to
a new role as the Prime Minister's Envoy for Nations
(33:14):
and Regions. But make no mistake her resignation, she said,
was because she'd become a distraction to the part of
the government. There will be plenty of people in the
opposition benches who were in government who will be delighted.
After all, Sue Gray led the investigation into parties at
Downing Street, which ultimately led to Boris Johnson's downfall.
Speaker 1 (33:36):
Interesting move, isn't it. Let's go to the situation in
the Middle East. The Israeli Prime Minister leshing out at
Emanuel Machrom.
Speaker 3 (33:46):
Yes.
Speaker 12 (33:46):
So the seventh of October is the first anniversary of
Hammers's attack on Israel, in which about two hundred people
were killed in two hundred and fifty one taken hostage.
So it was an odd time for the French President
Emmanuel Macron to call for a holt on arms deliveries
to Israel for use in Gaza. Immediately, the Israeli Prime
(34:06):
Minister Benjamin Yetnaho hit back, saying effectively, this is shame
on them. He said, Israel will win with or without
their support, calling it a disgrace. Well, the French have
hit back saying that France is a steadfast friend of
Israel and that Netanyah whose reaction is excessive and detached
(34:27):
from the friendship between France and Israel. Will others, however,
begin to make plain their feelings on the matter. Will
America change heart with its tactics, Well not at the moment,
but I think this gives some indication ran as to
how upset frustrated so many in the European ranks are
and whether it'll make any difference, of course, to Benjamin Mettnia,
(34:50):
who is a completely different question.
Speaker 1 (34:52):
Yeah, certainly, as thank you for that. Givin gray are UK,
your correspondent just gone nine minutes away from Sex and
Bridge Rich So the Mona Minui has sunk Defense Minister
Judith Collins at the press conference yesterday.
Speaker 4 (35:05):
This could have been a truly terrible day, but actually
it's a bad day.
Speaker 1 (35:12):
Purchased in twenty eighteen from Norway, it was used in
the oil and gas industry there. It cost US one
hundred and three million dollars to buy and convert into
a navy ship which was ready for service in twenty nineteen.
The guy who signed the cabinet paper to get that
done was Ron Mark, former Defense Minister. He's with us
live this morning. Ron. Good morning, Good morning Ryan.
Speaker 5 (35:30):
How are you.
Speaker 1 (35:31):
I'm well, thank you? How are you feeling about this?
Speaker 5 (35:33):
No, I'm gutted. IM pretty sad and I guess you
know fair to say this one hurt not just for
me but for my entire for my former ministerial staff team.
We work at butts off on a range of cabinet
papers at that time and brought into service, upgraded the frigates.
(35:56):
We bought this ship into service. We completed the project
that former government had started with Altro introduced that vessel
into service as well. To lose a ship that brought
such an amazing capability to the Royal New Zealand Navy
into New Zealand as a whole, which quietly stunned a
lot of our Five Eyes and other partners because of
(36:17):
its capability and the innovation and thinking that was behind
its purchase. Yeah, lose that ship. We knew it should
be a stopgap for about fifteen minute fifteen years, not
fifteen minutes and fifteen year stop gap to cover the
resolution and the former money were knowing one being a
survey ship, the other being the dive ship. We thought
(36:39):
it was a very innovative and smart purchase and get
cabinet sign off was a wonderful thing, and particularly at
that time because I'd been left with a bit of
a disaster with a frigate system's upgrade and a project
which had gone over one hundred and forty million because
it had been stalled for ten years, sitting there waiting
for the government, the previous government to sign off on it,
(37:01):
and we had to fill find money from somewhere. We've
pulled the money out of the latoral vessel that was
meant to be purchased and put it in to sign
off the FSH and get that done. And then we
bought bought Mono Nui or Eda from as she was
known back then.
Speaker 1 (37:17):
In a way hugely important asset to us. What are
you hearing about what went wrong?
Speaker 5 (37:23):
Well, it's a bit dangerous for me to even repeat
any of the speculation that's out there, because Ryan, as
you know, the Navy will stand up a court of inquiry,
a convenient officer will clearly be the chief of Navy.
He will be looking for people the right expertise. I'd
expect that within forty eight hours there will be an
announcement on that. I'd expect it it'll be very, very quick,
(37:44):
because they want to ascertain exactly how and why the
ship ended up in peril and sinking the way it did.
I guess they'll know that we've got to wait to
hear the results of that court are acquiring. As a
former Minister of Defense, it wouldn't do meaning good to
be speculating in the media and corrupting the process.
Speaker 1 (38:03):
No, fair enough, one quick question on that process. Could
a commanding office a big court martialed for something like that? If?
Speaker 5 (38:10):
I wouldn't even want to spark fair conversation around that,
because all right now, I'd say the commanding of the
Skipper will be feeling it really really hard now. One
of the things I do know is that the skipper
made a call, a very tough call, which some might
have thought was a bit premature. But at the end
of the day, everyone got off that vessel. No one died,
and the vessel did go to the bottom. And yet
(38:32):
well show disadvantage. Yeah, well it.
Speaker 1 (38:34):
Just goes to show that it was the right call
in the end, wasn't it. And seventy five souls are
living today to tell the tale. Ron, thank you very
much for that. That's Ron Mark, former Defense minister with US.
He's signed off on the cabinet paper to upgrade and
bring that in from Norway. It is eight minutes away
from six.
Speaker 3 (38:50):
News and Views you trust to start your day. It's
early edition with Ryan Bridge and Smith City, New Zealand's furniture,
beds and a playing store. You've talk Sidby.
Speaker 1 (39:00):
Five away from six. Roy has a novel approach on smoking.
He says, just make smokes two dollars a packet for
adults and stop ripping people off.
Speaker 11 (39:07):
You see this debate about Ryan. Hello, it's Heather here.
Speaker 1 (39:11):
I'm like one of those welcome yeah, thank you.
Speaker 11 (39:13):
I'm like one of those people that just joins the
phone conversation like your husband's on the phone and the
speaker and you just chip in, that's me right now,
you've tried. The debate is about these.
Speaker 1 (39:23):
What are they called coss Have you ever tried? Yes,
I have tried one of them.
Speaker 11 (39:28):
Yeah, I tried them two like years and years ago.
Because I've actually been on the market for eight yes,
and because I used to smoke when I was young,
like twenty years ago, and so from time to time,
you know, you have a couple of beers and then
you think, oh, that would be loveling. No, it's not
a good idea. And one time it was actually I
think with an employee of Philip Morris and tried it.
And I don't really understand the argument quite. I mean,
(39:50):
this is not science, but I can kind of see
how Casey Costello could say that they may not be
as harmful as Siggi's because it's not nearly as harsh
as a SIGI when.
Speaker 1 (39:58):
You know, tried it, as can she prove it right?
And that's what the whole debate is about. And what
evidence is she using to prove it? We've just had
case the Cassell on the show.
Speaker 11 (40:06):
To that point. Can I say also to that point,
we can't say that vaping is less harmful than smoking.
Speaker 1 (40:12):
We don't have long term well I know, we don't
have long term right right.
Speaker 11 (40:15):
It'd be just as bad, if not worth your smoking.
But it's bringing all these weird chemicals in.
Speaker 1 (40:19):
But if you do it, you know it, do you
know what I mean? And feel as Yeah, no, it doesn't.
Speaker 11 (40:24):
That's what I'm saying. Right, So SIGI is like your
nuclear option of yuckness. Then the Q cost or whatever
it's called, like whatever, you know, that thing that's less,
and then the vaping feels less as well.
Speaker 1 (40:35):
Anyway, what are you doing today?
Speaker 11 (40:36):
We're going to talk to the Chief Executive Health New
Zealand after seven o'clock because a five hundred million dollar
surplus in May turned into a billion dollar deficit for
the jude How does that happen?
Speaker 1 (40:46):
Quite messy? All right, we'll look forward to that. Heather
with your next have a great weekend. I'll see you
on Monday.
Speaker 12 (41:00):
Bye bye.
Speaker 3 (41:02):
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Low magnitude four point eight hit southwest of Poronga Hoo
just before eleven also in Wellington and this would suck.
An apartment building evacuated over structural concerns. That happened at
about midnight after their five point seven yesterday. Israel issuing
new warnings for those in southern Lebanon following fresh strikes
in Bay Roots, described as some of the worst so far.
Speaker 2 (00:21):
There were more than thirty attacks in southern suburbs of
b root Chiswila has a strong presence there, but it's
a densely populated residential area.
Speaker 1 (00:31):
Two it's one year since the war began. With the
terror attacks, We've got a statement from the Prime Minister
and Winston Peters shortly a resignation at Number ten Downing
Street overnight. No, not the new Prime Minister yet. Starmer's
chief of staff is out of there. Goodbye Sue Gray.
She's basically the fall guy for the donation scandal and
the energy payment cuts. Will it stop the bleeding? I
(00:52):
don't think so. Plus Australia's building codes, they're looking at
changing them and forcing new venues to have more toilets
for women. The study has found that at worst women
Q for thirteen minutes, men for nine minutes, disproportionately affecting
the fair.
Speaker 3 (01:07):
Sex News and Views you trust has Starne Your Day
It's early edition with Ryan Bridge and Smith City, New
Zealand's furniture beds and a flying store.
Speaker 1 (01:17):
News talk said, be honestly, they didn't spend so much
time doing their makeup.
Speaker 4 (01:21):
Ryan.
Speaker 1 (01:22):
Doesn't the Navy have insurance for the boat that's sunk?
That sank? We will ask ron Mark. I don't think so.
I spoke to a friend of mine who works has
worked in the Navy previously. He says, how do you
ensure a warship? Imagine what the premiums would be. But
we will ask ron Mark about that front page of
the Herald this morning. Fast Track to controversy. This is
(01:43):
about the government's announcement yesterday of one hundred and forty
and nine projects to be included in its controversial Fast
Track Approvals legislation. One of them, and we are going
to speak to big mining or the mining industry in
a few moments time. One of them is trans Tasman Resources.
This is mining of the Taarannaki Sea bed. There was
(02:03):
a Supreme Court ruling, there was an environment court. You
can imagine how many rulings there have been on this
and it's basically been stuck going nowhere and now in
walks Shane Jones, in walks Chris Bishop and Wila, this
thing will hopefully get off the ground with one hurdle
to get through rather than a thousand problem there are.
(02:26):
This is according to Greenpeace and Forest and Bird and
the Green Party and the Labor Party and anyone else.
You can imagine, home to thirty species of marine mammals.
It's a migration passage for blue whales. Little blue penguins
apparently hang out here sixty five square meters. Is that
here's the other side of the coin, though the benefits
(02:48):
well one Norway is apparently looking at doing this very
same thing in two hundred and eighty thousand square kilometers
of the Arctic Sea. So I mean we're a drop
in the ocean, aren't we. One billion dollars in export
receipts per year, two hundred and fifty million dollars in
royalties and tax per year, a wealth boost to New
(03:10):
Zealand of one hundred and fifty billion dollars. Who cares
about the whales, you know, surely they can just go around.
It's a big ocean. This is the problem, isn't it.
When you're when your country is in such a state
as New Zealanders, you start I love the ocean. I
(03:32):
swim in the ocean. I do lots of swimming in
the ocean. I love it. But you start to think
more about the fact that we need to do something,
we need to grow something in order to at least
maintain ourselves as a as a first world country. Nine
to ninety two. We'd love your views on that. This morning,
eleven after five, cry and Bridge. Yeah, so we're going
(03:57):
to talk mining in just a few moments. Also this morning,
there is the new grocery supply cost indexes come out
a two point three percent increase. This is what the
suppliers charge food stuffs. It's done by infometrics, same number
as August chocolate and oil up. This is brad Olson's
outfit and there have been some criticisms of this number
(04:20):
because it's looking only at the number before discounts are applied.
So you know how everyone says the supermarket screw the
screw the suppliers down, Well, this number is pre screwing basically,
So take that with a grain of salt. It is
twelve after five, News Talk said B.
Speaker 3 (04:41):
The news you need this morning and the in depth
analysis early edition with Ryan Bridge and smit City New
Zealand's furniture beds and applying store.
Speaker 1 (04:50):
News Talk said B. Fourteen minutes after five, news Talk
said B. Are people still using Google? So the search
advertising business is worth three hundred billion dollars. This is
globally three hundred billion dollars. It's massive and Google has
an iron grip on it. However, TikTok young people these days,
the young ones, they're not using Google in the same
(05:12):
way that we might use Google, that I might use Google.
They're going on TikTok and searching through TikTok, or they're
using Ai to search as opposed to Google, so they reckon.
This is the share of the US search ad market.
Google's share expected to drop below fifty percent next year
for the first time in more than a decade. Amazon up,
(05:33):
TikTok up, Ai up, So it's a could be an
existential threat to Google. Fifteen minutes a quarter past five,
Ryan Bridge, so one hundred and forty nine projects are
set to be included in the government's Fast track approvals build.
The majority are for housing, land development, infrastructure, as well
as renewable electricity generation. Eleven mining and eight quarrying projects
(05:56):
are on the list, with the hope it could help
with the government's goal to double the value of mineral
exports by twenty thirty five. Josie Vdal is with US
the Straterra Mining Chief executive. Josie, good morning, Good morning.
What do you say to the naysay is the opposition
who says this is going to wreck havoc on our environment?
Speaker 4 (06:15):
Well, first of all, I say progress and jobs are good.
Contributing to the global supply chain of minerals everyone needs
is good, and the misinformation about the bill is not
so good. So I suggest that people actually read it
and understand it. The people who are on that list
still have to make an application to the Environmental Protection
(06:37):
Authority and still be assessed under the bill once it passes. Yeah,
we say, you know.
Speaker 1 (06:44):
But the protections are greatly reduced for the environment. Ut
that I mean the environmental protections under the RMA Conservation Act,
the Wildlife Act. They can be overridden.
Speaker 4 (06:55):
We don't believe that that will happen in mining, because
responsible min in New Zealand still has to meet the
same high standards to be a global player. Basically, there's
so much pressure on companies now to report on their
environment or social and governance standards.
Speaker 5 (07:14):
So we're not going to see standards slip.
Speaker 1 (07:17):
Okay, the trans if.
Speaker 5 (07:19):
Things happen faster and more efficiency.
Speaker 1 (07:21):
The trans Tasman resources of the Tataranhaki sea bed mining,
let's look at that for example. So you've had a
Supreme Court overturning the consents, You've had the Environment Court involved,
So how can it go ahead if all of those
protections that that have already been looked at are still
in place.
Speaker 4 (07:41):
So what we had before was a system where the
only thing considered for a project was the environment by
a whole lot of people who were very fixated on
the environment. Now we can consider economic and environment. It's
slightly more appropriate.
Speaker 1 (08:02):
Okay, which is fine, Josie, because this is this is
the point I think you're you're conceding that because we're
looking wider than just environment, there will be some more
detrimental environmental impacts. But we're taking a wider view here.
Speaker 4 (08:18):
No, and I don't think there will be detrimental impacts
from mining because there's so there's been so many years
of measuring and managing them that people have the science
behind them. We have to you know, New Zealand has
to rely on science and technology and facts and evidence,
not emotion. And there's been a high amount of emotion
(08:40):
in this argument. And you know t here I have done.
There's spent millions of dollars on science to show that
what the impact of the seam with mining their planning
is and it's pretty low impact.
Speaker 1 (08:54):
So species, no species will go extinct like they're claiming.
You know, it's home thirty species of marine mammals. We
won't lose.
Speaker 4 (09:02):
Any Well, the research in science that TTR of God
suggests that that's a very turbulent part of the coast
and the sea beard is being churned up all the
time anyway. So you know, they have presented science and
they will continue to present science to the Environmental Protection
(09:24):
Authority when they go through their application.
Speaker 1 (09:26):
All right, Josie, thank you very much for your time
this morning, really appreciate it. Just before you go, Josie,
you're expecting any more protest now that this is this
list has come out because you had those ones on
the terrace well.
Speaker 4 (09:38):
I think it's unfortunate as I say that people aren't
following what is actually happening and I'm basically making stuff up.
So yeah, they probably they will protest because that's what
they do. That's a job for them.
Speaker 1 (09:53):
Fair enough, ye, Jase, thank you, I say, go science. Jase,
thank you for your time. Really appreciate your getting up
for us this morning. Joseph vdel who is with Straterra,
that's the Mining Association group, and one of their clients
is trans Tasman Resources, who are looking at doing the
Tadanhaki Sea bed mining. The benefits, as I mentioned earlier,
(10:14):
a billion dollars in export receipts per year, two hundred
and fifty million dollars in royal who's attacks and an
estimated wealth boost of one hundred and fifty billion dollars
over the lifetime of the project. What do you reckon?
Nine two nineteen after five.
Speaker 3 (10:26):
The first word on the News of the Day early
edition with Ryan Bridge and Smith City, New Zealand's Furniture
Beds and a playing store.
Speaker 1 (10:34):
News Talk Zippy twenty two minutes after five, loads of
feedback coming in on the fast Track Bill, which the
government has named the projects. Now we have a list
of one hundred and forty nine projects. We'll get to
that feedback in just a second. Also Ron Mark, the
Defense minister who worded the ship that sunk off the
coast of Sama on the show just before six, Gavin
Gray after the news at five point thirty right now
Sport and the Andrew Ordison is with us this morning.
(10:57):
Good morning, greetings, right and you a lot going on elsewhere?
Is that is? But Nral the Panthers have.
Speaker 6 (11:03):
Made it for in a row they have, indeed, and
another piece of history really for Ivan Cleary the coach
and his team and of course son Nathan. But just
that team performance again holding on against Melbourne fourteen six,
and yeah, just part of I mean it hasn't been
seen before in the modern ear. I mean you have
to go back to nineteen sixty six, Saint George eleven
(11:24):
in a row, South Sydney with five in row in
nineteen twenty nine.
Speaker 1 (11:29):
But this is just rare territory. They've just got such poise.
Speaker 6 (11:33):
Just seeing last night the defense that the penis side
shown under pressure with a couple of controversial moments. Is
that need to be addressed at some point? Cameron Munsters
is alleged to have been involved in a biting incident
on Paul Alamotti. And also there was a try in
the fiftieth minute that went to the bunk and was
(11:53):
or at least they got across the line, but whether
or not they got it down was debated.
Speaker 1 (12:00):
Did appear that the ball seemed to touch the turf?
Did he bite him because apparently the ref said, I
don't know. All I saw was saliva. Did he some teeth,
any bloods?
Speaker 6 (12:14):
It's just I'm always sort of perplexed by these biting situations,
and you think that's one thing you can keep your
trap shut. I suppose when you're when you're a tackle
or whatever.
Speaker 1 (12:24):
But the last thing I would want to do is
bite somebody. Dear, oh dear, I'm with you, with you,
there's no biting in netball, not that we know of
you too much to go on for that. But we've
beaten England, that's.
Speaker 6 (12:35):
Right, So I mean dead rub a match and in
for cargo, but still at least some Constellation consolation ahead
of the Constellation Cup four New Zealand against Australia.
Speaker 1 (12:44):
But they've they've beaten.
Speaker 6 (12:45):
England sixty one fifty six so England coming back in
the third quarter eighteen fifteen, but New Zealand a fairly
firm grip on that that fixture.
Speaker 1 (12:55):
And tak taken out the ren Philly shell.
Speaker 6 (12:58):
It's gone to Taranaki for the summer. In defending champions
in the n PC, I mean they're looking good again
this year and Wellington top of the table. I think
Tablacki's second Tasman there but beating Tasman and they haven't
had the shield since twenty twenty. In that instance, they
didn't even get to defend it for a match. I
think it was taken the following week by target I
think from reclection.
Speaker 1 (13:19):
So getting it for the first time in four years.
No nice. I actually watched the game the other day.
I don't know how. I came across at Andrew Yes
looking at it and it was in New Plymouth and
the Yarrow Stadium. Yes, half of it's been renovated, but
it just looked like there was no one that wanted
to go watch the rugby. It's kind of a show.
The camera angle was a shame.
Speaker 6 (13:35):
Yeah, but I think that was quite good. Never wed
describe bout there hit your camera ang or I get
to get the one hundred people will say that you
know exactly those patches.
Speaker 1 (13:44):
Anyway, Andrew, thank you for that and the ab' squad
announcement today. Yes, isn't it two o'clock? So we'll keep
an eye on at as well for it on ZB
Andrew Ordison with us for sport this morning. Twenty five
minutes after five year on News Talk said B coming
up next. Why we deserve some quick answers over this vessel.
The Navy vessels thinking the Manawanui twenty seven after five
(16:06):
News Talk ZEBB Why the sinking of the Manawanui? Why?
It's the question we all want answered this morning, but
what we are likely to get is a bunch of speculation.
The first most important question has been answered. Is the
crew safe? Yes? Mostly thankfully and by the sounds of it,
thanks in large part to help from others and the
decision to abandon ship, plus a dose of good luck.
(16:28):
Some of the crew spent five hours in life rafts.
Can you imagine battling the conditions to make it to
show one capsize before getting there? But we have so
many whys? How comes We've just lost our first navy
vessel since World War II? Worth one hundred billion bucks
just gone up and smoke sunk to the bottom of
the ocean. Why did the Munawanu hit a reef? Was
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it human error? Was it mechanical failure? What happened on
the bridge in the moments leading up to the collision?
Where was the officer of the watch? Were there no
alarms that sound before something like this happens. Was it
the weather? Why was it surveying so close to a
non reef at night? Why did it catch fire? We
have so many questions and so far zero answers. We
know the sea was rough, the wind was strong, but
(17:12):
that's about it. The Navy and the Minister both say
we'll wait for a court of inquiry. But is that
good enough. Surely they have some idea of what went wrong.
By now, what's the harm in the public knowing what happened?
Can we not handle the truth? We've been here before,
remember the entire islander grounding. There were crickets until New
Zealand first started tweeting up a storm. We learned from
(17:35):
the Northland Pylon debarcle that officials pretty much knew straight
away what went wrong. But we wait for inquiries and
reports and courts to tell us the truth months later. This,
I think is more media management than investigation integrity. And
the problem with this strategy is the void gets filled
(17:57):
with a bunch of speculation rather than facts at least
as established thus far, and a little bit of accuracy.
A little bit of accurate information is surely better than
a whole bunch of the opposite. Bryan Bridge, twenty nine
minutes after five. You're on News Talk SEBB the early.
Speaker 3 (18:19):
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Speaker 1 (18:25):
Twenty seven after five News Talk ZIBB. Why the thinking
of the Manawanui? Why? It's the question we all want
answered this morning, But what we are likely to get
is a bunch of speculation. The first most important question
has been answered. Is the crew safe? Yes? Mostly thankfully
and by the sounds of it, thanks in large part
to help from others and the decision to abandon ship,
(18:46):
plus a dose of good luck. Some of the crew
spent five hours in life rafts. Can you imagine battling
the conditions to make it to show one capsize before
getting there? But we have so many whys? How comes
We've just lost our first navy vessel since World War II?
Worth one hundred billion bucks just gone up and smoke
(19:06):
sank to the bottom of the ocean. Why did the
money who hit a reef? Was it human error? Was
it mechanical failure? What happened on the bridge in the
moments leading up to the collision? Where was the officer
of the watch? Were there no alarms that sound before
something like this happens. Was it the weather? Why was
it surveying so close to a non reef at night?
Why did it catch fire? We have so many questions
(19:28):
and so far zero answers. We know the sea was rough,
the wind was strong, but that's about it. The Navy
and the minister both say we'll wait for a court
of inquiry. But is that good enough. Surely they have
some idea of what went wrong. By now, what's the
harm in the public knowing what happened? Can we not
handle the truth? We've been here before, remember the entire
(19:48):
islander grounding. There were crickets until New Zealand first started
tweeting up a storm. We learned from the Northland Pylon
debarcle that officials pretty much knew straight away what went wrong.
But we wait for inquiries and reports and courts to
tell us the truth months later. This I think is
(20:10):
more media management than investigation integrity. And the problem with
this strategy is the void gets filled with a bunch
of speculation rather than facts at least as established thus far,
and a little bit of accuracy. A little bit of
accurate information is surely better than a whole bunch of
(20:32):
the opposite. Bryan Bridge, twenty nine minutes after five, You're
on News Talk SETB.
Speaker 3 (20:42):
First with the News, First with the Views, its early
edition with Ryan Bridge and Smith's City. This is News Talks,
had been news.
Speaker 2 (20:51):
Good morning, It's five point thirty. I'm never ready.
Speaker 1 (20:54):
Manu.
Speaker 2 (20:55):
The longer the hm NZ it is Manawanui stays in
the ocean, the worst comes for the nearby environment. The
navy vessel ran aground on Saturday night, then caught fire
and sank off the Sarmon coast yesterday morning. All seventy
five people on board were rescued. It was conducting a
survey around one nautical mile off shore when it struck
(21:15):
the reef. A Court of inquiry will probe what led
to its sinking. It's the first time the Navy's loster
ship during peacetime. New Zealand Defense Force personnel have been
deployed to Sarmour to help the cleanup and aid the crew.
Marine ecologist Phil Ross says how badly the marine life
is affected will depend on how much they can salvage
off the reef.
Speaker 5 (21:36):
For me will be Philly, pristine, have a huge amount
of biodiversity.
Speaker 4 (21:40):
You know, it would have been a pretty spectacular place.
Speaker 2 (21:42):
I imagine tragedy for the community. After a vehicle went
into Marlborough's to a marina river near Blenhim. Five people
were in the car as it plunged into the river
off the intersection of State Highway I and Bush Road
in the early hours of yesterday morning. Two of the
occupants escaped the vehicle and are in hospital with moderate injuries.
Police divers found the cart submerged in the river around midday,
(22:04):
recovering the three bodies still inside. The government's making it
clear projects on its Fast Track Approvals Bill are not
set in stone. Infrastructure Minister Chris Bishop selected one hundred
and forty nine projects to be listed on the bill.
They include infrastructure, housing, mining and electricity developments, as well
as a revamp of Eden Park Stadium. Bishop says once
(22:27):
the bill is back from the Environment Committee. Each project
will then need to go before an expert panel.
Speaker 5 (22:33):
We're also recommending to the Select Committee that the panels
will have the ability to turn down projects.
Speaker 2 (22:38):
Meanwhile, Forest and Bird Advocacy General Manager Richard Cappy says
they've been fighting some of the listed projects for years.
He says their developments like coal mining, stripping native forest
on conservation land, and ones that damage the ocean. A
renewed push for more tangible support for Palestinians from the government.
Today marks a year since the October seven harmactan on Israel,
(23:00):
initiating an ongoing war. World Vision New Zealand head of
Advocacy and Justice Rebecca Armstrong told the front Page podcast
they want the government to issue humanitarian visas. She says,
they also want the government to provide full resettlement assistance
for Palestinians with family members here.
Speaker 1 (23:17):
It would provide some hope a tangible path for Palestinians,
signaling that once movement as possible, it can leave a
conflict zone.
Speaker 2 (23:25):
Fire and Emergency have been using drones overnight to check
and now contained fire in a remote part of the
Far North. A vegetation fire broke out between Herdechno and
Ahipata on Saturday morning. It's burned one hundred and seventy
seven headtears within a perimeter of seven point one kilometers.
Thomas Rice is more.
Speaker 7 (23:44):
There is no active fire front and Fire and Emergency
have been working with forestry firefighters with heavy machinery. They've
been supported by helicopters to ensure what the containment holds.
Cruise today will be on the ground checking for any
small hot spots.
Speaker 2 (24:01):
A warning to Southland boaties to be aware of changing
river conditions. It follows two accidents on the Oritti River
within a fortnight. Record rainfalls over winter means Southlands rivers
are experiencing high flows, changing waterways.
Speaker 6 (24:19):
Today's talks, he'd be sports Pendroth have secured the Estatus
is Australian League's greatest club team since nineteen sixty six,
claiming their fourth straight premiership fourteen to six over Melbourne
in the NRL Final. Second ra and Triscore Liam Martin
claimed the Clive Churchill Medal for Player of the match.
Speaker 1 (24:37):
He was his initial reaction, oh.
Speaker 6 (24:39):
Well before he collected his thoughts on Sky Sport.
Speaker 1 (24:45):
Oh I've gone, then have your boys drag me along?
And then are you guys. The fans just love you, guys,
thank you so much.
Speaker 4 (24:53):
We don't hear.
Speaker 6 (24:55):
Love you only South Sydney in nineteen twenty nine with
five Premier shi in Saint George in nineteen sixty six
with eleven have had more consecutive success in our old
coverage with Pitstop get a free warrantor fitness check with
every easy service. New Zealand have beaten England sixty one
fifty six in the third and final Dead Rubber Tiny
Jamison Trophy Netball Test to lose the series two to one,
(25:18):
and in Vericago, the Silver Fern has lost third quarter
eighteen fifteen, but otherwise maintained a firm grip on the fixture.
Their next series is the Constellation Cup against Australia, starting
in Wellington on October twenty. Captain Amita and Eginasi has
told Sky Sport the Diamonds will require more application.
Speaker 8 (25:36):
It'll just be figuring out what important things we've got
to take forward.
Speaker 2 (25:39):
But we know we have to step up again and
it's important that we learn fast.
Speaker 6 (25:43):
Koko Goff's taken her second tennis title this season and
eighth in her career, with a straight sets victory of
a Carolina Mukova in the final of the China Open.
The twenty year old American became the youngest champion at
the event in fourteen years. She's maintained a perfect record
of seven victories in hardcore WTA finals. In Premier League Football,
(26:04):
Chelsea and Nottingham Forest have drawn one all. The Manchester
United and Aston Villa have drawn nil all. Tottenham lead
Brighton two nil at halftime. I'm Andrew Alderson and that's
News Talks. He'd be News and sport to twenty five
minutes to six.
Speaker 1 (26:18):
That's apparently a worry something you should be concerned about
this morning, twenty two minutes away from six.
Speaker 3 (26:23):
Bryan Bridge, going.
Speaker 1 (26:24):
To our reporters around the country. Callum Proctor is in
the need and for us, Colum, we missed you on Friday.
Everything all right at your place.
Speaker 9 (26:32):
Look a bit damp, Ryan, but certainly not as bad
as many other residents around the city. It's been a
weekend of cleaning up, that's for sure, after Friday's floods.
As of four o'clock yesterday, though here, Dunedin's state of
emergency was lifted, as was the case for the Kluther district.
Look the strain as we know, saw residents evacuated, roads closed,
(26:53):
many slips and also problems with water supply. Mayor Jills
Raddick says there's been a considerable number of slips. That's
their priority now with a few homes read sticket as
a result in the next few weeks of recovery for
that may take some time. He says, skips will be
available for residents and collections will take place to help
dispose of sandbags and rubbish. State Highway eighty eight to
(27:14):
Port Charmers due to reopen at six o'clock this morning.
Speaker 1 (27:17):
Callum, how is your weather looking today? I know you've
got some bad weather coming back later in the week,
but today.
Speaker 9 (27:23):
Well showers this afternoon, some possibly thundery, says the Met Service,
so we'll keep an eye on them. Light wins today's
high seventeen.
Speaker 1 (27:30):
All right, okay, thank you for that clear Surewards and
christ Church Claire. Good morning to you locals looking to
buy a slice of Banks Peninsula.
Speaker 8 (27:37):
Yes, s Lebon's Bay Conservation Trust has been hoping to
raise four hundred and fifty thousand dollars for a thirty
nine hectare property on Old Wolf Road. Its intention is
to use this land to create a reserve, to do
some planting and also protect native wildlife. The Trust turned
to crowdfunding in order to raise the funds it needs.
Speaker 4 (27:58):
Jefferson.
Speaker 8 (27:58):
Matthew McDonald says, with two undred and seventy five thousand
dollars in the bag, it is clear that people want
to preserve the environment. That's exactly what he wanted, something
which will be a lasting legacy from the people of
twenty twenty five to the people of twenty one twenty five.
The trust has until March to raise the funds it needs.
McDonald's adamant they'll.
Speaker 1 (28:17):
Get there all right. How's your weather today?
Speaker 2 (28:18):
Clear, often cloudy.
Speaker 8 (28:20):
There is the chance of some fog today, some afternoon
and evening showers, possibly heavy and thundery, light winds and
a maximum of twenty Thank you.
Speaker 1 (28:28):
Lots of questions coming in on the Manawanui. Andrew and
Taranaki says, I have a question about this. How many
hells does a real navy ship have? How many hells
does the Manawannui have? I believe money was saved by
building it with a single hell. We bought it off.
Was it the Norwegians? We bought it off Norway. It
was a surveying ship for mining up in Norway. So
(28:49):
we're going to ask ron Mark all these questions right
now though, we're going to Claudia O'Neil for our Wellington
News Claudia, good morning. Wellington City Council starting to chase
down those who aren't paying their rates.
Speaker 10 (29:02):
Yes, so a small number of disgruntled rates payers in
the capital are boycotting the twenty one percent average rates increase.
Pens and A. Julie roll Off and her her husband
have been living it in their home for their sorry
let me talk again, and her husband have been living
in their home for thirty years, but fear of rates
continue to increase, they won't be able to afford it anymore.
(29:23):
She's decided to take his stand and is refusing to
pay the increase, only paying her rates bill at last
year's level. A handful of other rate payers of following suit,
and the councils declining to comment.
Speaker 1 (29:33):
Oh okay, that sounds spicy. I say good on them.
But in the end the council does come for you,
don't they remember Penny Bright refused to pay rates and
then they said, well we'll take your house off you
Claudia House. See Wellington weather.
Speaker 10 (29:46):
Today cloudy, curious hours later in the day and a
high of sixteen degree.
Speaker 1 (29:50):
Thank you neveras and Auckland. Good morning, Neva, Good morning.
Speaker 2 (29:53):
Claudia's leaving so I'm going to grab her here because
time's a tough one. We've only got one cheer. Came
back from Wellington.
Speaker 1 (30:00):
Ah, yes, yes, right nice, yeah nephews twenty First.
Speaker 2 (30:04):
Can I say I missed the quake. I slept through it.
I was parting till two am, and then I went
back to the hotel room and went to sleep. I know,
and then I thought, is that a noise? I thought
it was the next door, you know that the people
next door. I thought it was the headboard. I went,
is that people next door?
Speaker 1 (30:19):
And I went, is it? And then I went back
to sleep.
Speaker 2 (30:22):
And then when I woke up at eight am, everyone
or there was so many terist there for a while.
I was really good vibe there in Wellington, and everyone
in the hotel was talking about it. They were all
quite shaken. Eye said, what about you miss Did you
feel it? I mean I missed it completely.
Speaker 7 (30:35):
I was fast asleep.
Speaker 1 (30:36):
Oh that's probably a good thing. Hey, how's the weather?
In Auckland today.
Speaker 2 (30:39):
Okay, well look there's a oh the weather rain possibly heavy,
was scawny, thunderstorms turning to showers this morning, then easing
this afternoon. Bit of a mixed bad but we've got
strong winds as well. Still warm, high of twenty quite Maggie.
Speaker 1 (30:53):
Last night I have to say in bed sixteen and
a half degrees at midnight.
Speaker 6 (30:57):
Oh my god.
Speaker 11 (30:58):
And because it's currently sixteen now.
Speaker 1 (31:00):
Oh so basically the same thing. Neva, Thank you very
much for that. That's Neva in Auckland for us and
our reporters around the country, eighteen minutes away from six
just before six. Ron Mark on the Manamanui. Also next,
Gavin Gray out of the UK. You're on news Talk
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Look at the monominerin a sick and right now. Though
Gavin Gray is in the UK, here's how you can
Europe correspondent Gavin good morning to you.
Speaker 12 (32:25):
Morning there.
Speaker 1 (32:26):
Tell us there's been a resignation at Number ten.
Speaker 12 (32:30):
Yes, Sue Gray. Now she's not an MP, she's not
a member of the cabinet. She is instead the chief
of staff for Secure Starmer or should I say our
Prime Minister's former chief of staff. Because she has resigned
she was caught up in lots of rows about pay
materialized she was being paid more than the Prime minister.
That was leaked by dissatisfied colleagues who had actually taken
(32:52):
a pay cup. And also it was really last few
weeks have been dominated by freebies, by the donations given
to the Prime Minister, his wife and indeed to other
ministers that I don't know, many say not been handled
very well. So Sue Gray is going to move to
a new role as the Prime Minister's Envoy for Nations
(33:14):
and Regions. But make no mistake her resignation, she said,
was because she'd become a distraction to the part of
the government. There will be plenty of people in the
opposition benches who were in government who will be delighted.
After all, Sue Gray led the investigation into parties at
Downing Street, which ultimately led to Boris Johnson's downfall.
Speaker 1 (33:36):
Interesting move, isn't it. Let's go to the situation in
the Middle East. The Israeli Prime Minister leshing out at
Emanuel Machrom.
Speaker 3 (33:46):
Yes.
Speaker 12 (33:46):
So the seventh of October is the first anniversary of
Hammers's attack on Israel, in which about two hundred people
were killed in two hundred and fifty one taken hostage.
So it was an odd time for the French President
Emmanuel Macron to call for a holt on arms deliveries
to Israel for use in Gaza. Immediately, the Israeli Prime
(34:06):
Minister Benjamin Yetnaho hit back, saying effectively, this is shame
on them. He said, Israel will win with or without
their support, calling it a disgrace. Well, the French have
hit back saying that France is a steadfast friend of
Israel and that Netanyah whose reaction is excessive and detached
(34:27):
from the friendship between France and Israel. Will others, however,
begin to make plain their feelings on the matter. Will
America change heart with its tactics, Well not at the moment,
but I think this gives some indication ran as to
how upset frustrated so many in the European ranks are
and whether it'll make any difference, of course, to Benjamin Mettnia,
(34:50):
who is a completely different question.
Speaker 1 (34:52):
Yeah, certainly, as thank you for that. Givin gray are UK,
your correspondent just gone nine minutes away from Sex and
Bridge Rich So the Mona Minui has sunk Defense Minister
Judith Collins at the press conference yesterday.
Speaker 4 (35:05):
This could have been a truly terrible day, but actually
it's a bad day.
Speaker 1 (35:12):
Purchased in twenty eighteen from Norway, it was used in
the oil and gas industry there. It cost US one
hundred and three million dollars to buy and convert into
a navy ship which was ready for service in twenty nineteen.
The guy who signed the cabinet paper to get that
done was Ron Mark, former Defense Minister. He's with us
live this morning. Ron. Good morning, Good morning Ryan.
Speaker 5 (35:30):
How are you.
Speaker 1 (35:31):
I'm well, thank you? How are you feeling about this?
Speaker 5 (35:33):
No, I'm gutted. IM pretty sad and I guess you
know fair to say this one hurt not just for
me but for my entire for my former ministerial staff team.
We work at butts off on a range of cabinet
papers at that time and brought into service, upgraded the frigates.
(35:56):
We bought this ship into service. We completed the project
that former government had started with Altro introduced that vessel
into service as well. To lose a ship that brought
such an amazing capability to the Royal New Zealand Navy
into New Zealand as a whole, which quietly stunned a
lot of our Five Eyes and other partners because of
(36:17):
its capability and the innovation and thinking that was behind
its purchase. Yeah, lose that ship. We knew it should
be a stopgap for about fifteen minute fifteen years, not
fifteen minutes and fifteen year stop gap to cover the
resolution and the former money were knowing one being a
survey ship, the other being the dive ship. We thought
(36:39):
it was a very innovative and smart purchase and get
cabinet sign off was a wonderful thing, and particularly at
that time because I'd been left with a bit of
a disaster with a frigate system's upgrade and a project
which had gone over one hundred and forty million because
it had been stalled for ten years, sitting there waiting
for the government, the previous government to sign off on it,
(37:01):
and we had to fill find money from somewhere. We've
pulled the money out of the latoral vessel that was
meant to be purchased and put it in to sign
off the FSH and get that done. And then we
bought bought Mono Nui or Eda from as she was
known back then.
Speaker 1 (37:17):
In a way hugely important asset to us. What are
you hearing about what went wrong?
Speaker 5 (37:23):
Well, it's a bit dangerous for me to even repeat
any of the speculation that's out there, because Ryan, as
you know, the Navy will stand up a court of inquiry,
a convenient officer will clearly be the chief of Navy.
He will be looking for people the right expertise. I'd
expect that within forty eight hours there will be an
announcement on that. I'd expect it it'll be very, very quick,
(37:44):
because they want to ascertain exactly how and why the
ship ended up in peril and sinking the way it did.
I guess they'll know that we've got to wait to
hear the results of that court are acquiring. As a
former Minister of Defense, it wouldn't do meaning good to
be speculating in the media and corrupting the process.
Speaker 1 (38:03):
No, fair enough, one quick question on that process. Could
a commanding office a big court martialed for something like that? If?
Speaker 5 (38:10):
I wouldn't even want to spark fair conversation around that,
because all right now, I'd say the commanding of the
Skipper will be feeling it really really hard now. One
of the things I do know is that the skipper
made a call, a very tough call, which some might
have thought was a bit premature. But at the end
of the day, everyone got off that vessel. No one died,
and the vessel did go to the bottom. And yet
(38:32):
well show disadvantage. Yeah, well it.
Speaker 1 (38:34):
Just goes to show that it was the right call
in the end, wasn't it. And seventy five souls are
living today to tell the tale. Ron, thank you very
much for that. That's Ron Mark, former Defense minister with US.
He's signed off on the cabinet paper to upgrade and
bring that in from Norway. It is eight minutes away
from six.
Speaker 3 (38:50):
News and Views you trust to start your day. It's
early edition with Ryan Bridge and Smith City, New Zealand's furniture,
beds and a playing store. You've talk Sidby.
Speaker 1 (39:00):
Five away from six. Roy has a novel approach on smoking.
He says, just make smokes two dollars a packet for
adults and stop ripping people off.
Speaker 11 (39:07):
You see this debate about Ryan. Hello, it's Heather here.
Speaker 1 (39:11):
I'm like one of those welcome yeah, thank you.
Speaker 11 (39:13):
I'm like one of those people that just joins the
phone conversation like your husband's on the phone and the
speaker and you just chip in, that's me right now,
you've tried. The debate is about these.
Speaker 1 (39:23):
What are they called coss Have you ever tried? Yes,
I have tried one of them.
Speaker 11 (39:28):
Yeah, I tried them two like years and years ago.
Because I've actually been on the market for eight yes,
and because I used to smoke when I was young,
like twenty years ago, and so from time to time,
you know, you have a couple of beers and then
you think, oh, that would be loveling. No, it's not
a good idea. And one time it was actually I
think with an employee of Philip Morris and tried it.
And I don't really understand the argument quite. I mean,
(39:50):
this is not science, but I can kind of see
how Casey Costello could say that they may not be
as harmful as Siggi's because it's not nearly as harsh
as a SIGI when.
Speaker 1 (39:58):
You know, tried it, as can she prove it right?
And that's what the whole debate is about. And what
evidence is she using to prove it? We've just had
case the Cassell on the show.
Speaker 11 (40:06):
To that point. Can I say also to that point,
we can't say that vaping is less harmful than smoking.
Speaker 1 (40:12):
We don't have long term well I know, we don't
have long term right right.
Speaker 11 (40:15):
It'd be just as bad, if not worth your smoking.
But it's bringing all these weird chemicals in.
Speaker 1 (40:19):
But if you do it, you know it, do you
know what I mean? And feel as Yeah, no, it doesn't.
Speaker 11 (40:24):
That's what I'm saying. Right, So SIGI is like your
nuclear option of yuckness. Then the Q cost or whatever
it's called, like whatever, you know, that thing that's less,
and then the vaping feels less as well.
Speaker 1 (40:35):
Anyway, what are you doing today?
Speaker 11 (40:36):
We're going to talk to the Chief Executive Health New
Zealand after seven o'clock because a five hundred million dollar
surplus in May turned into a billion dollar deficit for
the jude How does that happen?
Speaker 1 (40:46):
Quite messy? All right, we'll look forward to that. Heather
with your next have a great weekend. I'll see you
on Monday.
Speaker 12 (41:00):
Bye bye.
Speaker 3 (41:02):
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