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October 17, 2024 • 34 mins

On the Early Edition with Ryan Bridge Full Show Podcast for Friday 18th of October, the Green Party has voted to invoke the waka jumping legislation against former party, now independent, MP Darleen Tana. Political Editor Jason Walls has the latest on what comes next. 

The NATO Defence Ministers meeting is underway in Brussels amid ongoing global tension, and Defence Minister Judith Collins speaks to Ryan live from NATO. 

The aviation industry is warning of a looming shortage of pilots. Ardmore Flying School Chief Executive Irene King explains what it could mean for the industry. 

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
The issues, the interviews and the inside. Ryan Bridge new
for twenty twenty four on the early edition with Smith City,
New Zealand's furniture beds and a play a store.

Speaker 2 (00:14):
News Talk said, be.

Speaker 3 (00:15):
Good morning, wasn't a Friday six after five? Newstalk said,
b coming up this morning? Just before six? Judith Collins
from Brussels says at a NATO meeting there. Plus we
want to on the Solicitor General as well. You might
have seen that drama this week. We've got the latest
on Darlene Tana. What's Matidia to day got to do
with that? Apparently quite influential in the background. Liam Payne

(00:37):
the death will speak to our UK europe correspondent. Plus,
we're short on pilots if anyone knows how to fly plane.
The agenda says Friday the eighteenth of October, Israel thinks
it has killed National Enemy number one, Yahya Sinhwa. He
was the Hummas leader and architecture of October the seventh.
The IDF says three people were killed. Was a routines

(01:00):
stopped that they were doing DNA testing underway to confirm
if it was indeed Cinema. The European Central Bank has
lowered rates by twenty five basis points to three point
three five.

Speaker 4 (01:11):
The deesy inflationary process is well on truck. The inflation
knows outlook is also affected by recent downside surprises in
indicators of economic activity.

Speaker 3 (01:24):
Leguard also said, we are breakings and knack of inflation.
You should have used that grably. Oh that was quite
good right. Also this morning, Bangladesh has issued an arrest
warrant for former Prime Minister Shaike Hassena, who fled the
country in August amid a nationwide protest where hundreds were killed.
We covered that. You'll remember that Bangladesh's International Criminal Tribunal

(01:45):
has now found that he was behind a group that
committed massacres, killings and crimes against humanity. He hasn't been
seen since he fled. Australia's Northern Territory looks set to
drop its age of criminal responsibility, meaning children as young
as ten can be jail at the minimum. Age had
been raised twelve years, but the newly elected country Liberal

(02:05):
Party says lowering it is necessary to reduce youth crime.

Speaker 5 (02:09):
Capture these young people early, work out what's going on
and turn their life around.

Speaker 2 (02:15):
News and Views you trust to start your day.

Speaker 1 (02:18):
It's early edition with Ryan Bridge and Smith City, New
Zealand's furniture beds and a flying store.

Speaker 3 (02:23):
News Talk said, be yeah, a lot to ask Judith
cons because she does a lot, doesn't she? Nine two
nine two If you've got something you want to pass
through right, This has just come from the Trade Minister,
Todd McClay. This is a press release they've just put out.
New Zealand takes the next steps in dairy dispute with Canada.
This is all over them blocking New Zealand's dairy access

(02:45):
and there had been a ruling that was made by
a panel of arbitrags and then Canada has apparently failed
to comply with the ruling. Under the agreement, the next
step is for New Zealand to request formal negotiations. So
this press is essentially the New Zealand government today notifying
the Canadian government and other members of the cp TPP

(03:08):
that they've triggered a mandatory negotiation with a dairy dispute
with to do with Canada. So there you go. That's
all happening just this morning. Is number to tix has
just gone nine minutes after five on News Talk Ryan Bridge.
We've also got some numbers from Inframetrics this morning, which

(03:28):
we'll get to just on the state of play. I
know we've had a lot of drop. You know, the
ocr's coming down, inflation's coming back and banned, and people
are feeling good. Well, people aren't feeling that good right now.
I'll tell you how long it might take until there's
a smile on our dials. It's ten up to five.

Speaker 1 (03:52):
The news you need this morning and the in depth
analysis early edition with Ryan Bridge and Smith City, New
Zealand's furniture.

Speaker 2 (04:00):
It's hand a playing store.

Speaker 3 (04:01):
News Talk said, be he's gone twelve minutes after five.
Great to have you with me this morning. We're going
to go to Judith Collins season Brussels for a NATO
meeting that's coming up in just a few minutes. Right now, though,
the aviation industry is warning of a pilot and engineer
shortage because it's becoming too expensive to pay for training. Basically,
demand for pilots is going up. In twenty twenty three,
sorry twenty thirteen, the government capped how much students could

(04:24):
borrow to cover their training costs. That much is thirty
That amount rather is thirty five thousand dollars per year,
and it can cost as much as one hundred and
twenty thousand for two years of flying courses. So Irene
King is the chief executive at Ardmore Flying School. She's
with me this morning. Good morning, Irene, good morning, Good
to have you on the show. That is very expensive.

(04:46):
What is the shortage or is the shortage just down
the line, it's coming later.

Speaker 6 (04:52):
Look, we've got a shortage right now. We're finding it
incredibly hard to track kiwis into into the sector to
undertake training, and that's because they have to self fund,
unlike any other qualification, and they have to self fund
up to fifty thousand dollars per program. Now what you

(05:16):
described was a two year program to be really well
qualified in get into the airlines. You really need to do,
you know, another six to nine months and then you
need to get a job. And most of those jobs
are with in the training industry itself.

Speaker 3 (05:36):
So most who graduate the pilot training school try and
go on to train that's right.

Speaker 6 (05:43):
You know, the trainers train the trainers, and that's that's
the good question. They have to get a few hours
behind them, and you know.

Speaker 3 (05:56):
I get this, I get this is expensive. Is there
an sgument for your your in New Zealand's or do
they already cover some of that cost? You know, I say, right,
these these young men and women look good. I'll cover
their cost now and I know that and bond them
to me later.

Speaker 6 (06:12):
Yeah, it's a difficult concept. Yes, they are trying it,
but you know, you've got some issues around selection, and
you know, not everyone to cut out, even though they
might look great on paper. You get them in and
you know, yeah, yeah, exactly.

Speaker 3 (06:30):
You know you can't be you can't be putting all
your eggs in a couple of baskets, can you?

Speaker 2 (06:35):
All Right?

Speaker 3 (06:35):
So what is so? What is the solution? But what
do we need to do about this?

Speaker 6 (06:40):
Okay? Essentially this problem has been brought on by policy
settings of the government. You know, you talked about the
policy settings in two thousand and We're trying to run
a business in twenty twenty four costumes, but all our
income is frozen and twenty twenty thirteen dollars. So there's

(07:03):
got to be addressed. We've got to have the ability
to train more that was frozen in two thousand and thirty.
The aviation world today is very different from what it
was in two thousan thirteen. Now the third and probably
the most interesting challenge in some respects is actually getting

(07:24):
the qualification the syllabus, which was written in the mid
fifties updating translated.

Speaker 3 (07:32):
Yeah because otherwise people, Yeah, it's abit ancient history at
the moment is now I remember. We have to leave
it there because due to Collins over in Brussels, she's
calling in for us next. It's sixteen minutes after five
News Talks.

Speaker 1 (07:43):
He be the first word on the News of the
Day early edition with Ryan Bridge and Smith City, New
Zealand's furniture Beds and a player store News Talk Cibby.

Speaker 3 (07:54):
You're on News Talk c he b just gone eighteen
minutes after five. The NATO Defense Minister's Meeting has been
held Brussels amid ongoing global tensions the Middle East, Europe.
Where isn't it happening? Frankly? Earlier this week, China held
military drills that completely surrounded Taiwan, just a few weeks
after the hmnz Alte was sailed through the Taiwan straight.

(08:15):
Ukraine's President Zezelenski is set to be at the meeting today.
Judith Collins is our defense minister and she's with us
live from Brussels. Minister, welcome to the show. Oh hi Ryan,
great to have you here. Minister. Tell me, I understand
you've been meeting with the US Sector Defense, Lloyd Austin,
You've been meeting with the Secretary General of NATO. What

(08:36):
are you being told? What is the key thing New
Zealand needs to know about from your meetings.

Speaker 7 (08:41):
So we've had a meeting as well of the all
of the defense ministers and what's called the IP four
and that's ourselves, Australia, Japan, and South Korea Republic of Korea.
We're all hearing the same thing that what happens in Europe,
what happens in Ukraine, actually met in the Indo Pacific region,
and what happens in the Pacific is being noted and

(09:04):
matters to Europe as well as NATO generally. So what
we're hearing is everything's interconnected. I think many of us
know that, but it's being noted that the world is
quite a different place than it was a few years ago.

Speaker 3 (09:20):
Do you think that NATO's an organization that could ever
expand furtherest South?

Speaker 7 (09:26):
Well, no one's talking about that, and certainly on their rules.
Anybody knew joining NATO would have to come from Europe,
and so I don't think that's the point. But the
fact is that the IP four has been invited. This
is our very first time as defense ministers for the
end of Pacific four to be invited to the NATO

(09:47):
discussions and be invited to NATO Defense Ministers meeting. What
I'm really hearing is because we always know New Zealand
knows that what happens in Europe's important to us, but
it's good to hear the europe and the members of NATO,
Canada and US, as well as Europeans and Turkey actually
saying it matters to them too what happens in the

(10:09):
Pacific and the end of the Pacific region.

Speaker 3 (10:11):
Thet's talk about with your with your Attorney General hat
On from a moment, just if I could, minister, the
Solicitor General says that you need to think carefully about
a particular decision, decision where a person is mildly This
is obviously be an issue that's been bubbling away here
in New Zealand. David Semour's had something to say about it.
What do you have to say about it?

Speaker 7 (10:30):
Well, I'm really clear on this. The law needs to
be blind as the people's ethnicity or who they are.
And I'm very much of the view that these are
these Solicitor General's prosecution guidelines. They're certainly not rules, they're guidelines.
But actually I did not write a forward to them,

(10:52):
as most attorneys have been in the past, and I
do not agree that people should be treated differently based
on their ethnocity. It's simply not in my understanding, that
is what we should have. We have the rule of
law that need that means that everyone is subject to
the same law.

Speaker 3 (11:11):
Has these solicited general, in your view, overstepped their independence, Well.

Speaker 7 (11:18):
Sister General is independent in relation to individual cases, but
we've had it. Obviously this is different because of the
way it's words. I think it has led people to
believe that Mari or will be treated differently when it
comes to prosecution decisions. My view is that all prosecution

(11:42):
decisions should be carefully thought about, because it's not just
about whether or not someone can be prosecuted. It should
they be prosecuted in those circumstances, And we know that
that's something that's that's standards, but based on ethnosity.

Speaker 3 (11:59):
No, so will this solicit will anything change or is
there nothing actually you can do?

Speaker 6 (12:05):
Well?

Speaker 7 (12:06):
There these are the sister Generals. I think that she
is looking at the fact that there has been an
overwhelming backlash from the public, but that's something that she
needs to come to herself. I'm very clear myself that
the law must not discriminate based on ethnicity.

Speaker 3 (12:28):
Sarma. The navigation records of the monumentue have apparently been
found by a British warship. Have you been briefed on
that and what else are they finding?

Speaker 7 (12:38):
No, I've seen that there has been some very good
information has been found by the HTMs TMMA which was
in the area, and for the obviously to see what
they could do to help. That will no doubt be
going through defense. It will be part of the investigation,
which is a court of inquiry set up under the

(13:00):
Armed Forces Discipline Act, so no doubt be part of that.

Speaker 3 (13:05):
Do you have any update on the size of any
oil leaks.

Speaker 7 (13:10):
Well, I think there's very little that we can say
about oil leaks in terms of not so much that
more diesel, and even then it seems to be relatively small.
There are a couple of leaks understand that have been
stopped and that the main work now is going on
to remove the containers, but also to see what else

(13:32):
can be done in terms of removal of the fuel
that is remaining those big tanks. Certainly, everything I've seen
and been told is that although it's always very concerning
and we certainly don't want something happening and is a
massive leak or anything like that, so far it's not
nearly as bad as we thought it might have been
at the start.

Speaker 3 (13:53):
Just coming back to NATO for a second, and obviously
we're not a part of NATO, it's now before. But
the bottom is ASKI has made it very clear that
part of his victory plan is being part of NATO,
is being a member of NATO, and you can understand
the reluctance from some countries within it to that. But
I mean, is that what victory means for Ukraine?

Speaker 7 (14:15):
I don't know, you'd have to ask him. My concern
is is that Ukraine has been illegally and immorally invaded
by Russia. It has caused immense misery to the people
Ukraine did nothing to deserve that, and I'm just really
pleased that New Zealand has both the previous government and

(14:37):
ours stepped up and done what we can to assist Ukraine,
and I think it's you know, the international rules based
order is very important for smaller nations. We can't possibly
defend ourselves by ourselves and we need people to stick
to their own borders.

Speaker 3 (14:55):
Judith Collins, we really appreciate your time this morning. Thank
you very much for joining us. The Defense Minister Dudiculin
One's live in Brussels, NATO. It is twenty five after
five the early.

Speaker 1 (15:05):
Edition full show podcast on iHeartRadio. How It by News
Talk ZIV.

Speaker 3 (15:10):
It has just got twenty seven minutes after five. You're
on News Talk CB. I feel very very sad for
the family and for the friends of Liam Payne. This
is the One Direction Star. A lot of people, I
think will know who One Direction is because they were
on X Factor UK and everyone loves Expector UK. Anyway,
so he's somehow he has come off a balcony, third
storre balcony and he has lost his life. It's very sad,

(15:31):
it's very tragic. And then you read this. This is
from a BBZ BBC Verify account that says fake footage
is being shared, including one old video purporting to show
the form of one direction star falling from a hotel balcony.
It actually shows someone else falling from a balcony, and
it doesn't match with the actual photos of the scene.
So people just send out create videos, get them from

(15:53):
the back catalog, and then say look at this. I
guess for the clicks. I suppose that's why you would
do it. Real images have also been posted, sparking a
huge backlash, as you can imagine, because of the impact
they could have on as family and friends who'd just
been signing into the Internet, going on Facebook and there's
your son or your brother or whatever. Anyway, that's the
Internet for you. I guess, isn't it not a nice

(16:14):
place to be most of the time. Twenty eight minutes
after five, your on News Talk said big coming up
just before six, We're going to talk to Jason Walls about,
amongst other things, the Green Party Darlene Tana. Essentially she's going,
but it's now in the Speaker's hands to make that official,
make that happen. Our News is next with and Neva.

(16:38):
Then we're round the country to all of our reporters.

Speaker 8 (16:41):
Have a great morning, a great sat.

Speaker 9 (17:03):
Clenn don't you.

Speaker 2 (17:23):
Know get ahead of the headlines.

Speaker 1 (17:33):
Ryan Bridge you for twenty twenty four on early edition
with Smith City, New Zealand's furniture bids at a playing store.

Speaker 2 (17:40):
News Talk said, B.

Speaker 3 (17:44):
Good one in New Zealand twenty four minutes away from
six year on news Talk said B, We're going to
Vincent macavnny our UK. You're ape correspondent just a few
moments checking in on the one direction sty Liam Paigne's family.
They're obviously all UK based and Israel is checking if
they have in fact killed the Hummas leader Yaya Sinwa.
He's basically their number one enemy. And if they did

(18:07):
get him and they've still got to do DNA testing,
they will be celebrating. You can beat your bottom dollar.
It was a routine military operation in Gaza. They weren't
targeting in particular. Three guys come at them, they shoot back,
kill them. Go oh, that sort of looks like the
architect of October seven. And now they're DNA testing. Pretty
confident they are that they have got him, so they

(18:28):
are celebrating that this morning. Also happening today is a
report from Informetrics on our state of our economy basically,
and it says we're going to remain patchy through till
in mid twenty twenty five. I mean that's I guess
we can understand that, can't we Because not all of
us are on floating mortgage interest rates, so things are

(18:49):
going to take time. But midway through next year brad
Olsen Reckins, and then by mid twenty twenty six we
should be having two point seven percent GDP second quarter
second half GUDP for next year revised up slightly as well,
So we'll stay lower for longer and then quicker up.
Hopefully that's the theory anyway. Twenty two away from sex

(19:10):
Bridge to our reporters around the country, Calen Proctor is
indnedan Calen good Morning Morning Riot claims that Fish and
Games moved away from its core business.

Speaker 10 (19:19):
Yeah, this is from Federated Farmers. As South And farmers
continue to draw battle lines with Fish and Game, Federated
Farmers calling for the government to strip the Collective Council's
advocacy function. This is all just another step in the saga,
spark by a court decision requiring many South And farmers
to gain a resource consent to lawfully operate a Federated

(19:41):
Farmers South and President Jason Herricks told us Fishing Game
needs to stick to managing and maintaining sports, fish, game,
birds and their habitats. He says it needs to leave
the advocacy and lobbying to fit for purpose groups.

Speaker 3 (19:55):
How's the weather in to end today? Pretty good?

Speaker 10 (19:58):
Mainly fine, isolated EA showers, northeastlies and sixteen today.

Speaker 3 (20:02):
Thank you, and let's get to Claire Sherwood who was
in christ Church for us this morning. Thanks callum, Claire.
There's a cult coming to christ Church?

Speaker 6 (20:10):
Is there?

Speaker 3 (20:11):
Well, not quite Ryan.

Speaker 11 (20:12):
There is a conference about cults in christ Church from today.
About two hundred people are going to attend a symposium
named de cult It gets underway today. There's dozens of
international experts and advocacy leaders who will be discussing cultic
harm and coercion. This is an issue that they used
to make to impact about fifty thousand New Zealanders. The

(20:33):
director of the conference, Unkle Rishta, says those who have
left cults often find them mocked, shamed, or don't receive
the support they require.

Speaker 5 (20:42):
She's hopeful that this conference, which.

Speaker 11 (20:44):
By the way, is sold out, will help to create
change and provide better services to cult leavers.

Speaker 3 (20:50):
I'm smelling, ironically, I'm smelling a cult here. How much
does it are they paying for tickets?

Speaker 7 (20:55):
Oh? I couldn't tell you, but I can find that out.

Speaker 5 (20:57):
Would you like to go?

Speaker 3 (20:58):
I'll get you a media passed go. But you know,
I'm thinking, if these are all people susceptible to colts
and they're coming to join an anti colt colt, you know,
and they're asking for money, I don't know.

Speaker 2 (21:09):
Is that a cult?

Speaker 3 (21:11):
Anyway? What's what's the weather like today? Clear?

Speaker 11 (21:14):
Oh, it's nice and crash itch for d cult. Mainly
fine morning and evening cloud passable showers a bit later
easterlies and the highest seventeen brilliant Thank.

Speaker 3 (21:22):
You in Mexus. In Wellington, leaky pipes are backmex Yeah.

Speaker 12 (21:26):
For a few months it almost seemed as if we
hadn't heard much about leeks, burst pipes, sinkholes around the region.

Speaker 2 (21:32):
But after the decent.

Speaker 12 (21:33):
Shake we got a couple of weeks ago that quake,
which Wellington Water warned would have consequences for infrastructure. We
have now had two major leaks in the city, one
down near Parliament on Featherston Street that flooded an intersection
with a raw wastewater a couple of weeks ago also
made its way into the harbor, made it unsafe to
swim for.

Speaker 3 (21:52):
A few days.

Speaker 12 (21:53):
And then later yesterday cast iron main burst under Vivian Street,
a drinking water pipe that's also State Highway one, of course,
flooding a decent block there blocking a lane. Water service
did return to locals late yesterday and needed to be said,
not great timing. With almost two billion dollars already set
aside for water infrastructure in the long Term Plan one

(22:14):
point eight billion dollars, that perhaps doesn't seem like enough.

Speaker 3 (22:18):
Thank you, Max. How's your weather today, party.

Speaker 12 (22:20):
Cloudy northerly, sixteen high central.

Speaker 3 (22:24):
Brilliant, Thank you very much. Neva is an Auckland, Neva,
good morning, Good morning.

Speaker 5 (22:27):
I was just thinking about that cult, you know what
Clear was talking about. Yeah, I'd be terrible in a cult.

Speaker 3 (22:32):
Why you didn't want you? You would follow the No?

Speaker 5 (22:35):
Yeah, I wouldn't follow the rules. No talking, Neva, no laughing?

Speaker 1 (22:39):
Oh to be the.

Speaker 3 (22:41):
Still not happening? Hey, what's happening with the Orcland Council
twenty fifty plan?

Speaker 1 (22:46):
God?

Speaker 3 (22:46):
Well, yes, the.

Speaker 5 (22:47):
Twenty fifty there's an update on that one, and it's
just telling us that the council's progressing in some areas
but staying put in falling behind in others. So probably
no surprise there really. So the plan which guides count
was ten year budgets showing that positive progress towards just
thirty nine percent of the aims for this year. So
they include the public transport use, fewer greenhouse gas emissions,

(23:10):
fewer transport debts. But in fifty one percent of the goals,
council has either made no progress, gone backwards remaining goals
didn't even have enough data to tell. So Shane Henderson,
one of the counselors, he says, look, we've got a
lot of work to do around the measures like unemployment
in housing. So he's going to try and turn that
negative into a positive.

Speaker 3 (23:29):
Oh, that's cool, townd's good. How's the weather today?

Speaker 5 (23:31):
Cloudy? No rain yay, and no rain for the weekend
here on Audland. That's what the Met Service is telling me.
Eighteen is a.

Speaker 3 (23:37):
High fantastic NEV Thank you so much for that. Quickly,
here is a couple of clips from last night's press conference,
because you probably wouldn't have heard it. This is the
Green Party on Darling Tana. Chloe Swarbrooks speaking about next steps.

Speaker 13 (23:50):
After a thorough discussion abbose delligants who came to the
unanimous I feel conclusion to endorse that use of that
legis passion.

Speaker 3 (23:58):
My caucus, and she continued, I'm the end of the mesoning.

Speaker 13 (24:03):
Myself and Martima wrote to Darlene one final time and
foring her to finally do the right thing and resign,
but also informing her that we would be writing to
the Speaker to invoke the legislation.

Speaker 3 (24:16):
Don't I think there might be a problem with that
audio and that it sounds ai. I don't know, maybe
maybe it's just my headphones, but it might have sounded
a little ai to you. It was the actual Chloe
s Waalbrock. I can promise you that, and we're going
to talk about the well the pilava really and what
the Speaker does next with Jason Walls.

Speaker 1 (24:34):
Just before six international correspondence with Ends and Eye Insurance
Peace of Mind for New Zealand business.

Speaker 3 (24:41):
The Israeli Foreign Minister has just confirmed that they have
killed the so called face of evil, Yahya Sinwa. He's
the Hamas leader architect of October seven. Vincent mcavini's our
UK europe correspondent, Vincent, how did this happen?

Speaker 14 (24:57):
Well, we, as you say, have just had that confirmation.
We know that Israel has been on a renewed offensive
the IDF in Gaza and as we understand it, they
got into a conflict with a group of Hammas fighters.

Speaker 2 (25:11):
One of them was killed.

Speaker 14 (25:14):
They believed it to be Yaya Sinwhar. We saw graphic
images online of someone that was suspected to be him
lying in rubble of a building in the aftermath of
intense military conflict with clearly fatal injuries. Now we understand
that Israel used dental records and DNA because he was
held prisoner for a number of years by Israel in jail.

(25:35):
He was released in twenty eleven and they've now used
DNA profiling to confirm we believe that it is him.
So this is a big victory in Israeli minds. He was,
as you say, the architect of October the seventh, which
killed over twelve hundred people. Those hostages two hundred and
fifty were abducted, some still stuck in Gaza. No hostages

(25:57):
were recovered in this mission. But I think in Tel
Aviv they will be celebrating what they think will be
a clear a part of their victory in Gaza against
Hamas in intro and fascinating.

Speaker 3 (26:11):
As you say, it sounds almost like, you know, by accident,
not that he was particularly targeted, but that he came
into confrontation with them. Let's talk about the One Direction style.
Liam Payne has obviously died in Argentina. What's the reaction
being like in the UK.

Speaker 14 (26:26):
I mean it was a real shock reaction really because
you know, One Direction were globally famous and they were
from you know, slightly humble beginnings a reality show. The
x facts are on ITV here, and he was only
thirty one years old. You know, he had been going
through struggles and he'd admitted to problems with alcohol. He

(26:47):
had been to rehab. But still for a lot of
young people, you know, this is a band that they
grew up with. They sold out concerts, they sold out albums,
they were constantly you know, in the media on TV
four sort of the five six years that they were together.
So there's a lot of shock and sadness about this.
He had, of course a relationship with Sheryl Cole, the

(27:08):
singer from Girls Allowed a few years ago and they
had a son, seven year old, Bear Pain, and there's
a lot of sadness for that little boy. And of
course Liam Payne's wider family and his bandmates and friends.
There hasn't been any statements yet from the rest of
the band, that's of course Zaye Malik, Harry Styles Nihor

(27:29):
and Louis Thomson. But there has been a statement now
from his family, Liam Payne's family saying they are heartbroken
and that Liam will live forever in our hearts and
will remember him for his kind, funny and brave soul
is said.

Speaker 3 (27:43):
Isn't that very said? Thank you very much for an update.
Vincent Mecani, a UK and Europe correspondent. It is twelve
away from.

Speaker 2 (27:49):
Six Bryan Bridge, Charline Hanner.

Speaker 3 (27:51):
She looks like she's going to be given the boat
from Parliament all up to the speaker now. The Greens
have basically invoked and said, yes we want the walker
jumping to apply here. We want to have Darling Tana
Woker jumped. Jason Wolves as news talks of Be's political editor.
He's with me this morning, Jason, Good morning, Good morning, Rain,
Good to have you on the show. So they had
a press last night, right, what are they saying?

Speaker 15 (28:14):
Indeed, it was about nine to thirty last night, so
it actually sounds like the meeting wrapped up a little
bit sooner than they had anticipated, because it was thought
that they'd be doing a press conference this morning at
about seven am, but that's been kibosh because Chloe Swarbrick
fronted press last night and essentially she came out and
said yes, the Greens came to a basic consensus on

(28:34):
this and said that the party delegates want to get
Darling Tanner out of Parliament and they've voted to use
the Walker jumping legislation to do so, which essentially is
them saying that they think that she distorts the proportionality
of parliament and they've written to the Speaker to suggest
as such. So really in the hands of Jerry Browne

(28:55):
now and we'll hopefully find out from him today what
the next steps are.

Speaker 3 (28:59):
Yeah, I mean, obviously had a while to think about it.
Interesting the vote though it was all of the one
hundred and eighty five delegates voters to do this, and
apparently the likes of Materiia today coming back to be
quite influential in the vote.

Speaker 15 (29:12):
The return of Materia today is it's massive. She has
been basically absent from the political landscape since she quit
politics many many years ago. Of course, she did that
in quite a dramatic fashion before the twenty seventeen election,
and she hasn't really been seen in public in terms
of any sort of political part to play since then.

(29:34):
So her coming back is such a shocked surprise move.
Even Chloe Swarwick said that she had no idea that
she would be making this contribution to the Call last night,
and it really just goes to show how deep seated
this issue is within the Green Party.

Speaker 3 (29:50):
I mean, Ryan, you'll.

Speaker 15 (29:51):
Remember that it was the Greens that were the most
strident critics of the walker jumping legislation.

Speaker 3 (29:57):
Right here we are, but Jason, here we are thing
about Matidia two days. There is a woman who was scorned,
who left the party because she admitted to the benefit
stuff years and years ago. Maybe she's coming back saying, look,
if you stuff up, if I had to leave, you know,
then perhaps you need to as well.

Speaker 15 (30:17):
There could well be an element of that, and I'm
sure as the days go on, we'll get more details
of what it was than Matidia today actually said. But listen,
it was enough to get a party such as the Greens,
which is so democratized sometimes to a fault, to all
come together on one issue like this. And as I said,
given it was the Greens that were the ones against

(30:38):
the walker jumping legislation even being in place, for all
as many delegates to come together and agree as they
have been, I think it's actually remarkable that this has happened,
and it's really draws a bit of a line under
this whole situation.

Speaker 3 (30:52):
Yeah, it's a complete sort of moral one eighty in
some ways, isn't it. Jason, thank you very much for that.
Great to have you on the show. Jason Will's News
Talk zaid be political Editor. The ball is now in
Jerry's court. It's eight to six on.

Speaker 1 (31:05):
Your radio and online on iHeartRadio early edition with Ryan
Bridge and Smith City New Zealand's Furniture Beds and a
Playing Store, Youth Talks.

Speaker 3 (31:15):
He'd be six away from six News Talks. It'd be
great to have you on the show. Judith Collins was
on earlier from Brussels. We'll put that on the podcast.
A little later on. Right now, this is Donald Trump
talking to a group, a room full of women.

Speaker 6 (31:27):
I got a call from Katie Britt, a young just
a fantastically attractive person from Alabama.

Speaker 16 (31:34):
She's a senator.

Speaker 3 (31:36):
He doesn't need to say that, does he. But I'm mean,
I don't know. It's just gone now six, so it's
still six minutes away from six mikes here next, Hey.

Speaker 16 (31:43):
Mike Somoir. They've got him, Yes, so he's he's been
in the job for what three days, week and a half.

Speaker 3 (31:50):
Since August, don't two weeks? Yeah, so, which is a
huge deal. And they, by the sounds of it, they
didn't target him. There was no special operation. They just
bumped into these three guys on the street, shot them
and then thought one of them looks like, haven't I
seen you before? I knew the architect of October seven?
And then there are so I wonder.

Speaker 16 (32:09):
Run clothes on the program. I wonder, you know when
you talk to her. I know, I don't want to
extend the interview out, but when you look at what
they did last night didn't last as long as they
thought it would. They've written off to git. Why didn't
they do it on day one? You know what I mean,
you look too well?

Speaker 10 (32:25):
Is it?

Speaker 16 (32:26):
Or is it lack of management skills in a crisis?

Speaker 3 (32:30):
Really, the interesting thing I think is Mateia Tude coming
back and voting, because it was it was unanimous. One
hundred and eighty five of them voted to get rid
of Darling Tannet And that's the first time we've seen
her come out of the you know, the mist from
political oblivion. Is it because she got the boot doing
something wrong with she? She quit? Darlene must do the same.
I would have thought so.

Speaker 16 (32:50):
But the interesting thing about that also is whether anybody
in that meeting said, look, we've got a lot of
people that we keep selecting that don't turn out to
be much chop does Has anyone had to look at
the sky? You know what I mean? It's it's got
that we speak to hr. Yeah, we're not really good
at this. Has anyone noticed any of this? It's just
it just worries me that one day these people will
be in a position of some power and responsibility, and

(33:11):
if they bring the same acumen to serious issues as
they've brought to this, nothing literally will ever get done
in this country.

Speaker 3 (33:18):
If you think about it, Hey, what's happening this week,
and you've got some tai chi on what's happening.

Speaker 16 (33:23):
Well, yes, I got my ice bath, of course I do.
Don't don't ridicule the ice bath, but.

Speaker 3 (33:28):
I mean every day.

Speaker 16 (33:30):
There was nothing wrong with that, because if you're gonna
do the sauna, you gotta do the ice bath, don't you.
I mean it's hot and cold.

Speaker 3 (33:34):
How many hours are you doing this in a day?

Speaker 16 (33:36):
But well this is fifteen minutes, last bath, two or
three bombs, simple as that. It's like and look at
and look at me, look at me, look at me.

Speaker 3 (33:43):
I look at you, you old cripple. You can, you can? Really?
So I have a bad bag. Well there's a sauna
going to Texai.

Speaker 16 (33:50):
Give it a go, Give it a go, and let
me know. Anyway, I'll tell you what's big this weekend.
You've got to get into Liam Lawson of course, launches
in Austin.

Speaker 3 (33:58):
I won't, but I'll hear from you on Monday. Have
a great weekend, everybody.

Speaker 1 (34:07):
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