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Speaker 1 (00:01):
The issues, the interviews and the inside Ryan Bridge new
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Speaker 2 (00:14):
News Talks, it'd be good morning, welcome to the start
of your week. It is Monday, the eighteenth of November.
Great to have your company just gone six half to
five here on News Talks. There'd be our lead interview
this morning before six is health. The hr and Comm's
contractor's spend has doubled over the past year. Why it's
meant to be coming down? The link between speeding fines
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and crashes. Trump trying to stop the war in Ukraine.
Adam Cooper on Sport and Gavin Gray out of the UK.
Speaker 1 (00:43):
The agenda.
Speaker 2 (00:44):
Russia's gone hard on Ukraine's energy infrastructure heading into winter.
One hundred and twenty missiles dropped over the weekend.
Speaker 3 (00:51):
As winter arrives and we have had the first snow
here in the last few days. Russia turns its attention
to Ukraine's energy infrastruct in an attempt to plunge this
country into darkness during the most difficult months.
Speaker 2 (01:04):
Trump reckons he can stop this will soon. Remember we've
been talking about this. Zelenski actually commented on that during
the weekend, So I'll get into that in just a
few moments. The Philippines meanwhile being hit by its sixth
typhoon in the space of a month. Win speed one
hundred and ninety five kilometers now been recorded, Officials warning
a potentially catastrophic and life threatening situation. One hundred and
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sixty people died over the past five storms to the
Middle East, and Hesbila's chief comms guy has been killed.
Speaker 4 (01:34):
In Lebanon, targeting of Hamad Afif, who is within the
party's political body or media body, is significant here because
it's probably the first time since the beginning of this
swarm that a non military off a non leaders being
directly target had an assist.
Speaker 2 (01:56):
Lebanon is considering a new US lead cease fire deal
at the moment. Back home, the Prime Minister is about
to land literally in the next half an hour, following
the APEX summit in Peru, and that hucker that was
heard around the world has been following him. I think
this is actually a bit of a nonsense story. One
person was seen playing a video in the back of
a speech that Luxelon was giving in Lema Peru. All
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of a sudden, the he boy has followed him to Peru.
Really anyway, he will be landing back in Wellington big
day tomorrow with up to thirty thousand people expected on
Parliament's grounds for the Hecoy against the Treaties Principal's Bill.
The big question is does Luxon go out to meet them?
The answer should be no. You end up with either
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mud or a Lamington on your head. Remember what happened
the other option of courses, You get some of the
group to come and meet you in Parliament. That's probably
the more sensible way to do it. It is nine
after five.
Speaker 1 (02:50):
News and Views you trust to start your day. It's
early edition with Ryan Bridge and Smith City, New Zealand's
Furniture Beds and a flying Store. News Talk said, so.
Speaker 2 (03:00):
Really interesting on Ukraine's been going two and a half
years now and they've just had their bloodiest battles of
the war over the last couple of months, particularly for Russia.
They've lost more troops in the last couple of months
than they have at any time since the start of
the war. And in comes Trump. I'm going to fix it,
you know, by Christmas or within a day or whatever
it is. He said, how does he actually do that?
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Listen to the language from Zelensky, who has said, basically,
Trump will have a better chance of ending this war
than Biden did.
Speaker 5 (03:30):
SrAl and faster with the policy of the seam that
will now lead the way up. This is their approach, Gyam,
their promise to their society switch and it is also
very important to them.
Speaker 2 (03:42):
Right, So how do you actually do that? How do
you stop the war in Ukraine? Well, Trump's insiders have
given some insight into how into their thinking, some of
their thinking about this. First of all, forget about Crimea.
Zelensky's been talking about, Oh, we want to get Crimea back.
That was our next note. You're going to let go
of that. And then you would set up DMZ DE
militarized demilitarized Zone like they have between North and South Korea.
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You basically freeze the fighting at its current point. That
would mean by the way, Russia keeping about a fifth
of Ukraine that it's managed to grab so far. Ukraine
pledges not to join NATO for twenty years. Washington backs
them up to the hilt with weapons. On that DMZ
SO continues spending and supplying on weapons to deter the Russians,
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and you would have a twelve hundred kilometer DMZ patrolled
by either NATO or UN troops. And the curse complication.
We have to sort that out because that's where the
Ukrainians managed to get into Russian territory. That's the sort
of open question. How does that used as a bargaining chip?
But that is the rough blueprint apparently for how they
might end the war in Ukraine. So two and a
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half years of fighting, can Trump pull this off? Certainly
the world would appreciate it. Certainly, I think those living
in the regions where fighting is taking place would appreciate it.
The question will be can Pousian accept Can his ego
accept a compromise because he didn't have to on crime?
Did he? And the other question is is Ukraine willing
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to forego a fifth of its territory? But then you've
got to think, well, interest in this is going to
Wayne is interested in all wars Waynes And you know
Trump might say, well, we're not going to give you
any weapons, and then you screwed. You know you damned
if you do, damn if you don't. So do you
accept a deal like this? Nine two ninety two. The
numbers to text just go one twelve after.
Speaker 1 (05:34):
Five Ryan Bridge.
Speaker 2 (05:38):
We're talking to Robert Patman next. After Trump's meeting with
shi Jing Pang. Should we join ORCUST too? Very geopolitical
show this morning, but there's a lot going on. Should
we join UCUST too? What if the Yanks through in
a little sweetener like, hey, we won't we won't tear
a few if you come on and join Orcust? But
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then how does China on to that? We'll ask Robert
Patman next.
Speaker 1 (06:07):
The news you need this morning and the in depth
analysis early edition with Ryan Bridge and Fifth City, New
Zealand's Furniture Beds and a playing store News talk.
Speaker 2 (06:16):
Sai'd be just before six this morning. We're looking at
a rather strange story the opposition having a crack at
the government over health spending in the year to June.
Now this is June this year, which means that some
of the spending would have of course been under their
watch and included you know, HR officials, comms people stuff
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like that. So is it a smart idea for Aishaviel
to be having a crack at the government over spending
that she was half responsible for we'll look at that
just before six. It's just gone quarter past five. Bryan
Bridge Bludston landing back in New Zealand any moment now.
After the APEX Summit wrapped up in Lima, Peru, New
Zealand secured trade deals with Costa Rica, Switzerland and Iceland
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during the summit, removing tariffs on wood and wool products.
I'll tell you more about that in a second, because
it is quite interesting. Luxon having his first meeting with She,
his first meeting with the Indonesia, Indonesians, the Vietnamese Perode, Chile,
his first formal meeting with the new Japanese Prime minister,
and he said see later Biden. Robert Patman's I Targer
University's International Relations Experience with US Live. Good morning, Robert,
(07:23):
good morning, Good morning Ryan. Great to have you on
the show. Tell me, thank you. What did you make
of that meeting with Luxeon and She?
Speaker 6 (07:33):
I thought the Luxe She meeting went as well as
could be expected. As mister Luxon quite candidly said, there
are real points of convergence, but there's also points of divergence.
And amongst the diverging points were the fact that we
don't see a toy on news China's role in the
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South Pacific see area, and we also don't really see
itoy over the utility of ORCUS in the Indo Pacific region.
So but putting those points aside, it was I think
the meeting went very well and they seem to agree
to disagree without the whole thing poisoning the atmosphere. And
the fact that mister Luxelm got invited to China within
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the next few months I think is good because at
the time, China remains our biggest trade partner, Unlike the
United States. China gave us a free trade agreement.
Speaker 5 (08:28):
And.
Speaker 6 (08:29):
It's important to consolidate that relationship at a time when
the new Trump administration seems poised to impose blanket tariffs
on its trading partners.
Speaker 2 (08:40):
Now they have obviously, the Chinese have expressed concern about
ucust Pillar two. They're worried about what it could mean
for the region, and it's the US getting into Asia Pacific, etc.
And we are on the fence at the moment about
signing it right. We are saying, still reading the details,
still reading the te le's we'll figure it out as
we go. What if the U sweeten the deal and said, hey,
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we'll exempt you from trade tariff if you sign.
Speaker 6 (09:05):
Well, that's a possibility. But you know what, I don't
think that there was a signal that mister Luxon gave.
I think there's a border concern here. New Zealand, unlike
the United States, has a huge state in what's called
international rules based or the both in security terms and
trade terms. We've been very concerned by the undermining of
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the wto the World Trade Organization by both the Trump
administration between twenty seventeen twenty twenty and also the Biden
administration as well. And mister Trump's protectionism doesn't sit well
with our position. So I think we'd be obviously open
to negotiation exemption, but I think we'd have a broader
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concern about mister Trump's protection and having an effect on
global trade, in which of course we have a big stake.
So in short, Ryan, I think we'd be open to
negotiationing exemption, but not at the expense of our position
of protectionism in general.
Speaker 2 (10:02):
If we did sign it, how what reaction could we
get from China Because the Ausies have gone are there
for opinion for a pound, and they haven't had much
a way of a stern reaction in China.
Speaker 6 (10:14):
But they're in a qualitaively different position for US. They've
always been closer to the US, and so China look
at them in that regard. And secondly, China's trade relationship.
They import a lot of minerals from Australia. They've also
had tenser relations with China. They sanctioned them, I think
in twenty twenty twenty one, so I would hesitate to
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draw the parallel it China sees New Zealand is much
more of an independent player in the Asia Pacific. We've
got to make up our own mind. I'm a bit
of a skeptic in August myself, but I was struck
by the fact that mister Bluckson said, on the one hand,
he thought it was generally a positive thing. On the
other hand, he said it may not necessarily be the
(11:00):
right thing for New Zealm or implied that yeah and so, yeah,
he's keeping You're quite right. I think he's keeping his
power to dry, so to speak. I think the advent
of the Trump administration has really complicated New Zeum's decision
making around UCAS. I mean, after all, many keywis will
be upset whether they are left, right or center. If
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we got even closer to a country was effectively trying
to impose tariff on us or some of our.
Speaker 2 (11:28):
Friends exactly, which is why you were thinking. I mean,
if you were going, if you were going to put
me into paper, you would want some well, I would
want to assuage me. I would like some sweetener. Thank
you very much in the way of an exemption from tariff.
But that's just me. Robert, thank you very much for
you analysis. Is always great to have you on the show.
That is Professor attag nivisit the international relations expert? Robert
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Petman News Talks in b.
Speaker 1 (11:51):
The First Word on the News of the Day Early
edition with Ryan Bridge and Smith City, New Zealand's Furniture
Beds and a player store. You talks.
Speaker 2 (12:00):
That'd be twenty two after five lots of sport at
the weekend, Tyson obviously playing that YouTuber guy. I watched that.
We'll talk about that in a second, but first, Adam
Cooper's here was sporting the All Blacks, losing by one
point to France after a good first half. It was
disappointing to watch. Wasn't it a Monie run? Certainly?
Speaker 7 (12:19):
Was you know, just as you said, so much promise
from a very strong and comprehensive first half. I thought
arguably one of their best spells of forty minutes from
the whole season, with the All Blacks doing what we've
known all year that they're capable of setting up some
great tries.
Speaker 2 (12:33):
They rarely had the free sure on the back foot.
Speaker 7 (12:35):
I think they had to make well over a hundred
tackles against the All Blacks and that that first spell,
but as it has also been rather familiar this season,
just just losing their way a little bit in the second.
In the second spell, you know, a little bit of
decision making, a little bit of discipline, you know, you
think of a suffer on Moor's watched lineout throw. You
know that the likes of Cody Taylor getting penalized there. Yes,
(12:58):
there were some contentious decisions with the officiating, which we're
always going to debate afterwards, but I think.
Speaker 2 (13:03):
The All Blacks can we can't go on and on
about this.
Speaker 7 (13:06):
I think the All Blacks lost that game themselves, regardless
of a couple of possible referee calls or TM decisions.
I think they again just lost their way a bit
and multiple factors just you know, let them down. Quite astonishing.
Now three in a row for France against the All
Blacks and starts to France, of course, where the All
Blacks lost the final last year, sort of comes back
to haunt them, which is really interesting. Hey, well what
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do they do now, because that's their last game for
the Northern Tour, isn't it. I've got Italy this weekend,
so one more not not as obviously as strong as
opponents as the last couple of weeks, so I suspect
we'll see a few of the younger players get a
bit of a run and they'll try and end the
year on a bit of a high. So certainly the
toughest couple of games of the tours all done on Dusty.
Speaker 2 (13:47):
And you've got an update for us on Black Caps
in the stri Lanka.
Speaker 7 (13:50):
Yes, Schlanka, So yeah, Sri Lanka are batting and the
run chase, they're trying to get two hundred and ten
to beat New Zealand. They are doing pretty well one
hundred and twenty three for five, needing eighty seven runs
from eighteen overs. So yeah, Cus almendis just in the
middle order the epsod of holding firm for the Sri Lankans.
So unless New Zealand can urgently get a few court wickets,
it's going to be a Sri Lankan victory, and which
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would see them wrap up the series as well, because
of course the Srilankans won this first one day just
a few days ago.
Speaker 2 (14:18):
Brilliant, Thank you Adam Cooper's Debby's Sport. It is twenty
four minutes after five Ray and Bridge. So Trump has
appointed his new US Department of Energy secretary, and he
is we will drill, baby, drill. Chris right. He's an
oil and gas industry executive. He was the founder and
(14:39):
CEO of Liberty Energy, which is an oil field services
firm based in Denver, Colorado. He aims to maximize production
of oil and gas into seat ways to boost a
new generation of electricity. So this is their new Secretary
of Energy. They'll be stoked with this. He made a
splash in twenty nineteen when he drank fracking fluid on
camera to demonstrate it was not dangerous. And here's the
(15:02):
rub for Democrats, by the way, who might be upset
about this. US oil output hit the highest level any
country has ever produced under Biden.
Speaker 1 (15:12):
The early edition full show podcast on i Art Radio
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Speaker 2 (15:21):
You're on news Talks. Heb it is twenty seven minutes
after five. I felt bad watching those eight rounds on
the ring with Mike Tyson de jew. I felt bad
for him, the fifty eight year old. What on earth
was he doing in there? Twenty million US dollars from Netflix.
Apparently that's what they paid him. That's what he was
doing there. His networks about ten million. He went bankrupt
a few years ago. Of course, went to prison. Was
worth three hundred million. Ayway, he needed money, poor old
(15:44):
Mike Tyson. And Netflix paid the other guy, Jake Paul
forty million dollars president Gate Tarkit sales Gate ticket sales
are from AT and T Stadium brought in close to
US eighteen million dollars and seventy fans and Netflix while
they won the fight with sixty five million viewers at peak.
(16:06):
It's part of a new strategy that they've got to
get live sport events to their subscribers, including those that
are paying less but getting fed ads on the platform.
This is their clever strategy. So their ad supported flip
platform now accounts for fifty percent of their new signups.
It's grown to seventy million new use in news in
just two years. It's a credible These big tech bro
(16:28):
Silicon Valley giant media companies, you know, YouTube's all of
those types. They're just going from strength to strength, aren't they.
And they're the ones that have our attention. There are one,
two and three most streamed in New Zealand, and yet
we here in New Zealand and Australia are trying to
force them into news content deals with us. We're battling
with taxpayers cash to reinvigorate failing state media companies to
(16:51):
compete with these guys and are doomed to fail battle.
We're like the fifty eight year old Mike Tyson who
apparently nearly died before entering the ring. Annoying twenty seven
year old new to boxing but bringing in the eyeballs
Jake Paul, these big tech companies. So what do we
need to do? Keep fighting, get more bloodied, get more bruised,
(17:12):
or create partnerships and try and get our content to
their eyeballs.
Speaker 1 (17:23):
Get ahead of the headlines. Ryan Bridge you for twenty
twenty four on Early edition with Smith City, New Zealand's
furniture bids and a playing store.
Speaker 2 (17:32):
News Talk zidby good Morning New Zealand, twenty four minutes
away from six year on news Talk, said by welcome
to the start of your week. Welcome to you Monday.
We're going to go to Gavin Graham the UK shortly
Poland scrambling its air force. Y also this concern we're
(17:54):
spending too much still on consultants and pr gurus, et cetera,
and the healthiest we'll talk to the Sarah Dalton about that.
We'll go to our reporters around the country. Cash. Remember
I said a couple of weeks ago that we should
make it a law, change the law to allow people
to use cash for essentials like fuel and like groceries,
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because one day we'll have another earthquake or whatever and
everyone will have their postcards and no one will be
able to use them because the power goes down and
there's glitches, et cetera. So we need to encourage cash more.
And at the moment in New Zealand, you only need
the only requirement for accepting cash's legal tender is if
you're paying off debt, so you can use cash to
(18:38):
do that. However, it should go further than that. You
should be able to pay for your groceries and for
your petrol with cash. Now at the moment most of
those outlets accept it, but one day they probably won't. Well,
what's happening today? Apparently, according to the Sydney Morning Herald,
today the Australian Government will announce exactly what I said
we should that retailers must sell gross groceries and fuel
(19:05):
and accept banknotes and coins. In doing so. You can
accept other forms obviously, you can still do your payWave
and your credit card and whatnot. But they're saying we
need to keep cash and circulation. Should something, should the
shite hit the fan twenty two minutes away from six
News Talks, he'd be Bryan Bridgelake Benny's without Dunedian News Blake,
Good Morning. The Dunedan mayor upset that Shane snubbed them.
Speaker 8 (19:29):
Yeah, so this is Health Minister Shane Retty's decision to
decline his SOS Hospital rally invite, which the mayor is
calling a missed opportunity. Residents are invited to the Dunedin
Town Hall from six pm as part of the council's
campaign to have the new hospital built to its original
promise plans. Mayor Jules Raddick says he's disappointed but not
surprised by the Health Minister's absence. He says reci would
(19:52):
have been able to hear from independent experts who could
determine the right size for the hospital, but Raddit says
they'll just send the Health Minister a no nonsense statement instead.
Speaker 2 (20:02):
All right, how's the weather.
Speaker 8 (20:03):
It's fine. Northeasterly is on the cards today, which will
ease this evening high of twenty.
Speaker 2 (20:08):
Cheers, Blake, have a good day, Claire's and christ Church clear.
Young Fayibao being farewelled at a service today.
Speaker 9 (20:14):
Yes, this is real estate agent Young Faybao Ryan. Members
of the public are being invited to join her family
and friends for a service today. It's at eleven this
morning at a church in Stotburn called Our Lady of
Victories Now. Organizers say everyone's welcome. They want to remember
Young Faybao's beautiful life and celebrate some of her incredible accomplishments.
That are inviting people to share their own favorite memories.
Speaker 10 (20:36):
Of her too.
Speaker 9 (20:37):
This comes, of course, as the trial for the man
alleged to have murdered. Boo continues, it'll be the fifth
week of that trial. This week the crown witnesses are
still being called and the accused Tin Jun Choo is
now running his own defense.
Speaker 2 (20:50):
All right, how's your weather today?
Speaker 9 (20:52):
Fine for christ Church as well, fresh northeasterly is easing
a bit later the high will be eighteen brilliant.
Speaker 2 (20:57):
Thank you. In Wellington, the hikoy's heading there and is
the for us this morning?
Speaker 6 (21:01):
Mix?
Speaker 2 (21:02):
What's the advice for people?
Speaker 11 (21:04):
Yeah, as you said earlier, up to thirty thousand expected
to descend on Parliament tomorrow. That might potentially overflow from
the grounds. The central city is going to be an
absolute nightmare logistically, public servants being urged to work from home,
several businesses. The same police say a similar precedent might
be the Foreshore and seabed protest, but they insist they
(21:24):
are well prepared for a mass protest at Parliament that
might make a bit of a change. A police actually
quite complimentary of how this hecoy has been organized so far. Ultimately,
the key message is to remain peaceful and on message.
Tomorrow should go relatively smoothly. If that's the case, schools
have to remain open some online options for some students. Otherwise,
(21:45):
for instance, kids who go to the hecoy instead of
scheduled NCEEEA exam won't be eligible for a derived grade.
Backbench Apub across the road expressing a little bit of
concern about again traffic and logistics and such.
Speaker 2 (22:00):
It is a shame that they were a big shame
if the kids went and missed out on their grades,
because that's forever, isn't it.
Speaker 11 (22:07):
How's the weather, max, Oh, terrific, fine light winds today?
Speaker 2 (22:11):
There we go, Thank you very much, neighbors and Auckland. Hey, Neva, Hello,
are you t launching a brand new class? Yes, Taylor Swift.
Speaker 12 (22:19):
Correct, Taylor Swift Communications Professional. So now apparently this story
came out, you know what was it a couple of
months ago? But the new angle it starts today, the
new summer school course at aut And apparently this is
going to analyze Swift's eighteen year career through the lens
of communications discipline. So the course runs from today until
(22:40):
December thirteenth, apparently that Swift's birthday. So they're going to
have modules three days a week Monday, Wednesday and Friday.
We're just talking about this in the newsroom, like I mean,
would you. We don't know how many have signed up,
though we're going to find out exactly how many of s.
Speaker 2 (22:53):
I just would have thought it would be part of
a wider music course where you would look at different
artists rather than have tire course on one exactly.
Speaker 12 (23:02):
I mean what they give back in the day, we
would have loved to have sell a black or none
of them as scory.
Speaker 10 (23:07):
Do you know who they are?
Speaker 2 (23:08):
Sell a black?
Speaker 6 (23:08):
I do not?
Speaker 12 (23:10):
Oh, your parents or grandparents. She's still alive. Apparently she's ninety.
There used to be this whole program about her every
Sunday night when the black TV was black and white
back in those days.
Speaker 2 (23:20):
Yeah, I can't have to look her up.
Speaker 11 (23:22):
Yes, and here I am.
Speaker 12 (23:23):
I've got to go because I'm sitting here on my
knees because there's no jem.
Speaker 2 (23:27):
We're a bit poor, aren't we. How's the weather today? Never?
Speaker 1 (23:30):
Partly? Cloudy?
Speaker 8 (23:31):
Isolated?
Speaker 12 (23:31):
Shellers that's north of vord Air with this morning still
will though summer's coming?
Speaker 1 (23:36):
Is it here?
Speaker 10 (23:36):
At twenty one?
Speaker 2 (23:37):
Is the whole certainly feels that way. Let's go to
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Speaker 1 (24:52):
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Speaker 2 (24:58):
Kevin Gray is our man in the UK and scrambling
as air force because of these massive Russian attacks on Ukraine.
That's just as winter's coming, right, Skeiven.
Speaker 13 (25:09):
Sure, we'll just try and sort of force Ukraine into
a miserable winter and of course it does get bitterly
cold there if they knock out all these power plants. Now,
we've just heard in the last few minutes that the
death toll of those overnight strikes missile and drone attacks
from Russia killed ten people, has just gone up from
seven and there are of course others in hospital. And
(25:32):
indeed it was the largest coordinated assault since early September.
One hundred and twenty missiles and ninety drones were launched.
So what is the response from Europe. Well, Poland, Ukraine's
neighbor on the western side, scrambled fighter jets to patron
its own airspace. And that is because some of these drones,
(25:52):
some of the missiles will go into the westernmost part
of Ukraine, in other words, very near to Poland and
also Hungry, which neighbors both Ukraine and Poland, also on
alert with drone attacks just twenty kilometers from the border.
And the country's defense minister. They're saying the situation is
(26:13):
being monitored continuously.
Speaker 2 (26:14):
Yeah, two and a half he is under this war.
What's the vibe, because obviously Trump's come in he says
I'm going to end at your head Zelenski at the weekend,
saying if anyone can end it, you know, Trump has
a bit of chance of ending it. Given as ritric.
Then perhaps Biden did this talk of a DMZ zone
between the countries of Ukraine agreeing not to join NATO
for twenty years. What's the vibe? Is it likely?
Speaker 13 (26:38):
I think here in Europe the concern is Donald Trump
will simply turned the tap off, either completely or largely
on aid the Ukraine financial aid and military aid. And
then the big question is will Europe step up to
the plate and fill the void. They said they will,
but well, there plenty of youre skeptical about that. And
indeed the German Chancellor, leader of Germany, on our Schultz,
(27:02):
he put a call in to Vladimir Putin. They spoke
for over an hour. It was the first time they
were spoken directly for nearly two years, and it infuriated
many in Europe who believe that the opportunity for diplomacy
has gone. There should be no appeasement and indeed they
should step up the support of Ukraine.
Speaker 2 (27:22):
Interesting, Gavin, thank you for that. Givin gray Are UK
europe Correspondent, twelve minutes away from six ran Bridge. The
oppositions having a crack at Health New Zealand and the government.
The agency spent eighty five million dollars more on consultants
and contractors in the year to June twenty twenty four
than it did in the year to June twenty twenty three.
Now some caveats on this. That includes all but half,
(27:46):
well about half actually of labour's time and power, and
it also includes people and comms. An increase in people
in comms. Now people means HR. I think comm's meaning
communication staff. That's blown out twenty seven million dollars to
sixty one. It's doubled. The Health Agency is putting the
spending increase down to a global shortage of health workers.
(28:09):
The roles hired on a contracting basis are needed to
fulfill time workforce gaps, according to the department. Sarah Dalton's
with the Association of Salary Medical Specialists. She's the executive
director there and she's with us this morning. This is
AzID be Exclusive. Good morning Sarah, Good morning Ryan. How
I I'm very well, thank you. I'm assuming, on the
face of it, you would support them spending more money
(28:32):
to fill gaps that need to be filled.
Speaker 14 (28:35):
Yeah, on the face of it, we would obviously. You know,
if you and I are our family go to hospital,
we want to know that there are other clinicians there
to provide good care, right Yeah, So.
Speaker 2 (28:46):
That's good, So we're happy case closed.
Speaker 14 (28:49):
I wish it were that simple. So we would like
to see U fortater Health New Zealand putting that money
into recruiting and retaining permanence staff. And that is they
haven't got the balance right there. So every hospital system
will require local cover. Sometimes they're basically temporary or casual
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doctors or other staff who can fill gaps. But this
health system continues to rely too heavily on locums to
run hospitals. It means staffing remains fragile, and it means
it's really expensive.
Speaker 2 (29:24):
We're never going to get that right though. I mean,
I mean we've got actually an opposition party here criticizing
a budget which they were half responsible for, which probably
just goes to show you that no matter who's in power,
we're going to be using locans up to Marzu.
Speaker 6 (29:38):
No.
Speaker 14 (29:40):
I still think that the balance is wrong. We are
still waiting to see a comprehensive workforce plan and a
workforce census that says, actually, Health New Zealand knows specifically
where the people are, where the specific shortages are, and
what the plan is to address them. You know, the
twenty twenty three workforce Plan identified seventeen hundred doctors missing
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from the system. This year's budget made no reference to
those known vacancies in terms of how they were funding
or how they were working to fill those gaps. And
this year's health workforce plan is missing in action. I
asked the minister about it. He says, it's with cabinets.
Speaker 2 (30:18):
Okay, a lot of things with cabinet at the moment.
Hey just randomly a lot of stories about us importing.
You know, we've got new registrations for doctors coming in
from Ireland and England and Australia and stuff. They're making
up a greater percentage of our new registrations than locally
trained doctors. Same story going with nurses. Is that really
a big problem? Who cares where if my doctor was
(30:39):
trained in Australia or here, they're still going to do
the same operation on me, aren't they.
Speaker 14 (30:44):
Yeah, So we always rely heavily on overseas trained doctors.
That isn't new. Upwards of forty five percent of our
senior doctors intend to sew overseas trained. We still don't
even come close to training as many as we need
here and we would like a greater invest into that.
So on the face of it, as long as those
doctors have are appropriately training, qualified and learn a bit
(31:07):
about what it means to work in New Zealand, that
isn't a massive problem. Although we think having a sensible
mix of locally and overseas trained doctors helps in terms
of again sustainable workforce.
Speaker 2 (31:23):
Because I suppose they could all bugger off at some point,
couldn't they all? Or a pandemic or a war comes along,
they all go home and we're left with no one
to do the operations. Sarah, thank you very much for that.
Sarah Dalton, Executive director of the Association of Salaried Medical Specialists.
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Speaker 1 (31:42):
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Speaker 2 (31:51):
News Talks be it is five away from six year
on news Talks B Mike, I'm just going to hand
you Mike hasn't got a change talk to me most.
Speaker 10 (32:00):
Actually, what sort of welcome or lack of welcome is?
Speaker 2 (32:03):
This never got on her knees when she came in,
all right, So that's how desperate we are without a seat.
I want to look at So just have a look
at this photo. Have you seen that? You probably would
have seen it last night. Yes, So this is the
this is modern American politics. It's a photo of Elon Musk,
Donald Trump, Trump Junior, RFK, Speaker of the House, all
(32:25):
sitting on a on a jet probably Trump forse one
yes with McDonald's Yeah it is.
Speaker 10 (32:29):
And is RFK eating It doesn't look like he's eating anything.
Speaker 2 (32:33):
He's holding up as there's a quarter pounded, there's a
fileo fish. But they're all going to the UFC. I mean,
what is this?
Speaker 10 (32:39):
It's amazing. It's a very good piece.
Speaker 15 (32:41):
You should read in the Sydney Morning Herald this morning. Yeah,
that talked to eighteen people on under the auspices of
anonymity so they could speak freely. And apparently at Mary
Lago it's gone feral. And so what you're seeing is
a repeat of what happened last time. Is so he
had quite a dis team in terms of putting together
(33:03):
a campaign and winning it and all that sort of stuff,
way more discipline than twenty sixteen.
Speaker 10 (33:07):
The moment he won, he went nuts.
Speaker 15 (33:10):
And so your Gates and all the other crazies that
he's putting forward are not part of the strategy. They're
just him, you know, free wheeling and ad libbing. And
one of the quotes is a really good quote. He goes,
I can't find you one of these guys is involved
in the Senate. I can't find you any more than
twenty senators who will ever vote for Gates because some
people still take their job seriously.
Speaker 2 (33:30):
Yeah, so they got all sorts of yeah, he won't
get through will No.
Speaker 10 (33:34):
I don't think you will, which, on the other hand,
to be a problem.
Speaker 2 (33:37):
Now everyone saying, oh, this guy's been accused of sexual
assault the president, you know, as a convicted felon. The
bar is not exactly high.
Speaker 10 (33:43):
I can't stand here holding this microphone up or no
chair forever.
Speaker 2 (33:47):
Get on with your show, all right, See you tomorrow.
Speaker 1 (33:56):
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