November 20, 2024 • 34 mins
On the Early Edition with Ryan Bridge Full Show Podcast for Thursday 21st of November, gang patches are now banned in public. Are police ready to enforce the new law? Assistant Commissioner Paul Basham joins the show.
NZTA has spent Almost $800 million on temporary traffic management in the past 3 years, and that doesn't include local council spending. Dave Tilton from the Temporary Traffic Management Industry Steering Group speaks to Ryan.
Power prices are on the rise as the Commerce Commission allows Transpower and lines companies to increase how much they charge. John Harbord from the Major Electricity Users Group talks about what it means for the country's biggest power users.
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
The issues, the interviews and the inside Ryan Bridge New
for twenty twenty four on the early edition with Smith City,
New Zealand's furniture Vans and a play at store US Dogs.
Speaker 2 (00:15):
It'd be good morning, welcome to your Thursday six after five.
Great to have your company coming up in our lead
interview before six this morning, Police on how many gang
patches they've picked up in the last waters have been
now five hours since the stroke of midnight. We're also
going to Mitch McCanns Stateside JD Varnce at Capitol Hill
trying to get Trump's cabinet confirmed. We'll have the latest
(00:37):
on Ukraine and also the three quarters of a billion
dollar bitter pill that we're all swallowing on road cones.
Speaker 1 (00:47):
The agenda.
Speaker 2 (00:48):
It is Thursday to twenty first of November. So the
United States has closed its Kiv embassy after a specific
information of a potential significant air attack from the Russians.
Speaker 3 (01:00):
Tell of ordinary residents of the capital here about that
they had two and a half hour air a siren
this morning, another forty five minute one early in the
early hours of the morning too, so very used to
incoming attacks. It's a nightly thing here, but it is
highly abnormal for essentially American diplomat to be told to
shelter away and stay away from their place of work.
Speaker 2 (01:20):
Well, I suppose that's what happens when you give them
bombs that can go be shot far into Russia. Anyway.
Italy and Greece have temporarily closed these as well. Ukraine says,
don't worry, this is just psychological warfare. More on what
Biden's given them, because there is more to Camman. A second.
In the UK, inflation has jumped two point three percent,
largely being put down to energy prices. It had been
(01:42):
sitting at one point seven for September. It's more than
the Bank of England was expecting. They thought it'd get
to two point two, but it's gone two point three.
This means for them the cost of living crisis is
not over, and not great news for labor ivor either,
who's just done a big text and spend budget. The
Ossies are doing it and now the UK might as well.
(02:03):
The Technology Secretary they are saying it's possible a social
media ban for under sixteen's is on the table.
Speaker 4 (02:10):
I don't want to go to things like blanket bands
because I want people to benefit from all of the
opportunities presented by modern technology, but where there are harms,
I will keep everything on the table.
Speaker 2 (02:20):
I don't want to do this, but I don't want
to do that, So what really am I going to do?
The Justice Minister Paul Goldsmith is proposing changes to name
suppression laws. He wants to stop courts from issuing a
permanent name suppression order for an adult convicted of a
sexual offense unless the victim agrees to it. The proposed
changes would also see victims of intimate recordings being given
(02:43):
automatic name suppression. That seems fair enough. If somebody's film
during you didn't know what was happening, and you're a victim,
why should you be named in court something that doesn't
happen under the current rules.
Speaker 1 (02:53):
The first word on the News of the Day in
early edition with Ryan Bridge and fith City, New Zealand's.
Speaker 2 (02:59):
Fo to bed and a plan Store, you talk say
name suppression. I've always thought it weird that you would
be accused of a crime. Someone can point the finger
and say that guy stole a car, or that guy
did that or whatever, and you're named publicly for that
before you've actually faced trial or been before a judge.
(03:21):
Does that not strike you as odd?
Speaker 5 (03:23):
Shouldn't?
Speaker 2 (03:24):
Shouldn't you? Like, sure, if you're found guilty of a crime,
name and shame, But until that point, nothing's been proven,
So why should your name be out there? I don't know,
It's always seemed a little bit weird to me. Maybe
you have a different view. Nine two ninety two is
the number to text Regional Economy. We've got an update
for you this morning. This one is the September quarter
(03:45):
from Informtrics. It's an early report actually from them, just
indicative numbers at the stage activity flat surprise, surprise. The
provinces and rural areas doing really tough, down point three
point four percent. That's a year to September nine, metro
areas up point one percent. I mean, it's all pretty sad,
isn't it? A bit lackluster tax cuts now, they came
(04:07):
in in September. During this September quarter, we've also had
lower interest rates, and what have we done with them? Nothing.
There's been no significant boost in the September quarter from
either our personal income tax cuts or from the lowering
interest rates. So what are we doing with our money? Well,
probably paying off bills, I imagine or maybe you're saving
to you spend it at Christmas hopefully nine two nine two,
(04:31):
if you can answer that one. On the upside, dairy
and meat prices are recovering. They're starting to rebound, and
actually will to talk more about dairy prices as well,
because we've got another bank coming out saying ten bucks
eleven after five. You're on News Talks there, b this
is your Thursday morning Brian Bridge. Oh, just by the way,
(04:55):
if ever there was a time that you wanted your
phone charged, your bills, pay a clear signal on your
Wi Fi, it's during the threat of a nuclear wall
with your worst enemy. Right, yes, we can all agree
on that. We'll get this. The hotline that is set
up to diffuse crises between the Kremlin and the White
(05:15):
House is not currently in use. Good luck everybody.
Speaker 1 (05:29):
On your radio and online on iHeartRadio early edition with
Ryan Bridge and Smith City New Zealand's Furniture Beds and
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Speaker 2 (05:39):
B two is the number to text. We'll talk why
your electricity bills going up next year and every year
for the next five years. And that's just to look
after the lines, not even to do with supply demand.
We'll talk about that next. Also, just before six, the
gang patch ban is in place. How many patches have
they picked up in the last five hours and fourteen minutes.
(06:00):
We'll let you know. We've got the cops on just
really quickly. We were talking about that hotline between the
US and the Kremlin. It was set up during the
Cold War because what they used to have to do
during the Cold War. I was listening to a podcast
about this the other day. They had to use the
Western Union. They would have delivery boys on bikes for
the Western Union that would literally have to hand deliver
(06:21):
messages from President Kennedy. Jump on a bike, go round
to the Russian embassy, deliver the message. That's how they
were communicating. So anyway, they said the idea was, let's
make it faster. They set up a hotline. They've got
the hot line now in the middle of this shite show.
It's not working. Spray and Bridge qut A past five.
(06:43):
Great to have your company this morning. So NZTA spent
an eyewater and get this, three quarters of a billion
bucks of taxpayers money on road cones and temporary traffic
management in the past three years. And that doesn't include
spending on local councils and contract what does. The Minister
of Transport, Siman Brown says the cost is eye watering
(07:04):
and excessive. Dave Tilton is the former chair of the
Temporary Traffic Management Industry Staring Group. He's with me this morning, Dave,
Good morning, morning r Now, Unfortunately, I think there is
a direct correlation between the length of somebody's job title
and their productivity. So I'm not I'm not holding out
hope for this. Okay, Dave tell me is he right?
(07:25):
Does he have a point? Are we spending too much?
Speaker 6 (07:29):
I think generally the answer would be yes. Is the
waste in the system?
Speaker 7 (07:32):
Without question?
Speaker 8 (07:33):
Yeah?
Speaker 6 (07:34):
I suppose how much?
Speaker 7 (07:36):
Is it wasteful?
Speaker 6 (07:37):
That's there isn't a direct answer to that question yet.
Speaker 2 (07:40):
I don't think whose fault is the waste? Is it
the industry that you're representing, or is it the government
regulation or both?
Speaker 6 (07:48):
I think historically it would be the system that's constructed
around it, how the decisions get made as to how
much TTAM gets deployed. So historically it's been a very
prescriptive system and that hasn't given a lot of room
for more pragmatic or site specific considerations. So systemically it
hasn't it isn't designed to generate the right amount if
(08:11):
you like.
Speaker 2 (08:12):
Okay, so the system because the government has just changed
the system, so it's less Intense's.
Speaker 6 (08:17):
Probably changed about twenty twenty one was where that spun up,
So that certainly predates the current government.
Speaker 2 (08:23):
Yeah, right, So is that where they made it more
intense or less intense?
Speaker 7 (08:27):
I wouldn't say.
Speaker 6 (08:28):
Probably intensity is probably the word I use, isn't quite right,
but more flexible.
Speaker 2 (08:33):
Call it that.
Speaker 6 (08:34):
And that's where that risk based system started to get designed,
and it just this year it started to implement. But
of course it predates in terms of its design and concept,
and now it's starting to hit the ground.
Speaker 2 (08:49):
Okay, so the risk based system is cheaper.
Speaker 6 (08:53):
It can be, yes, I mean, there is a percentage
of waste in the system, and this method should engineer
out that waste better than the old method. But it's
very dependent on how people do it and how people
use it, and certainly the capability in the system to
do that, which is probably the piece that's lacking. We've
got twenty five plus years of prescriptive thinking that's going
(09:14):
to take it while to get out there's a lot
of inertia that comes.
Speaker 2 (09:17):
With that, right, So what percentage of a big voting
project should be on traffic management? Typically?
Speaker 6 (09:24):
Well, that seven or on six million is nine point
three percent of their total spend out of almost eight
and a half billion. So it's actually pretty small when
you think of as a that's a very big number,
not diminishing that, but certainly as a percentage, it's actually
quite small. How I've been involved in projects that are
more than that, and if it was half that, that'd
(09:44):
be amazing, But I you know, there is a limit
on how low that can be in terms of getting
worked done.
Speaker 2 (09:49):
How does that compare to overseas?
Speaker 6 (09:53):
There isn't a huge amount of data on that, but
it's not double. Put it that way, it would be
within five seen either way, certainly.
Speaker 2 (10:01):
Okay, which is still significant. What about for like local councils.
There was a traffic light that has been installed in
a crossing in Auckland and they reckon that the TTM
was twenty five to thirty five percent of the cost.
I mean, you've got a small suburban street, I've seen
it happen, and you've got not only these temporary traffic
light things. But you've got someone with a stop ghost
(10:23):
sign standing next to the traffic light, I mean, what
the hell's going on there?
Speaker 6 (10:28):
And like, I don't know specific examples, but those are
the kind of situations where that flexible approach might lead
to a much more pragmatic outcome. So there isn't you
know when you when you look, I mean, it's clearly
lots of prescription that's happening now, you know. Yeah, correct,
So when you load something that was you know a
(10:50):
certain about a prescription where someone goes a lot. These
are the rules I have to follow and you know,
I've got no other way to do it, and that's
how the system's constructed around them. Then yeah, you're going
to eat that with some some mismatches of environment versus
risk versus treatments.
Speaker 2 (11:04):
Okay, someone is someone have we saved lives with the
more prescriptive method. Was a fewer deaths than there are now? No,
actually the opposite.
Speaker 6 (11:13):
So death and serious injuries from TTM has climbed pretty
considerably over the last twenty years, which, to be honest,
was the original trigger for the rest based approach being explored.
So you know, ultimately the method hasn't really worked, although
it's not to say that, you know, it was a
bad idea. That's how the world works, that's how every
(11:36):
other country does it. This rest based approach from New
Zealand is world first. Really, no one else is really
doing it this.
Speaker 2 (11:41):
Way, all right, Dave, thanks very much for your time.
Appreciate it. Dave Tilton, who's the former chair of the
Temporary Traffic Management Industry Steering Group, saying that basically we
tried to do it in a prescriptive way. It cost
us a hell of a lot of money and it
didn't even work.
Speaker 1 (11:56):
News and Views you trust has done your day's earlier
this with Ryan Bridge and Smith City, New Zealand's furniture
beds and a playing store.
Speaker 2 (12:04):
News Talk said, b Or, if you've got a good
traffic cone story, I would love to hear it. There's
one round around the corner from my street, and honestly,
it's a whole the size of my foot in the
side of the road with a truck next to it,
a van next to that, and then one hundred thousand
people doing traffic management and it's been there for more
(12:25):
than a week and sometimes they're not even working on it.
I just don't I don't understand. Twenty two minutes after
five News Talk, said b Ryan Bridge, show, and look
at your power bills for the next few years, people,
they're going to get a bit ugly. It's because the
Commerce Commission has given permission to Transpower and the local
lines companies to up their charges. They're doing this because
they need to upgrade the network, is weather issues coming,
(12:47):
More of us are using evs and not enough gas,
et cetera, putting more pressure on the network. John John
Hubbard is the Major Electricity Users Group chairing. He's with
us this morning. John, Good morning. What impact will this,
if any, have on business?
Speaker 7 (13:04):
Look, I think it's it's important to note that the
impact on Certney, large sort of industrial manufacturers will be
more significant than what's going to impact households. And that's
because those large businesses don't buy their electricity from retailers,
so the percentage of their bill that comes from transmission
and distribution is higher. So what we're going to see
(13:25):
is those large employers, many of whom are already struggling,
their electricity bills are going to go up considerably more
than about the five percent increase that households are looking at.
Speaker 2 (13:35):
What percent are we're talking, Well, it's.
Speaker 7 (13:37):
Going to vary by businesses. So you get some very
large users like the Alu Medium smells at ty, who
buy their electricity direct from the national grid. Others will
be going through their lines company, so it varies by
the businesses.
Speaker 2 (13:51):
What's the max.
Speaker 7 (13:54):
Well, some of them buy oh I think you're looking
at you know, well over two percent of their bills
for transmission, transmission and distribution year.
Speaker 2 (14:06):
And they'll be going up by do you know and
sort of a range.
Speaker 7 (14:11):
It's very hard to say. The Commission very consciously didn't
provide any estimates, and that's just because of the variability
of the nature of the businesses we're talking about.
Speaker 2 (14:19):
Right, Okay, do you think it's going to be enough
significant enough to put some of them out of business?
We have seen that in the last couple of months
with spot prices.
Speaker 7 (14:29):
Not in and of itself, but it's important to note,
and this applies to households as well, is what the
Commission has approved is just increases in transmission and distribution.
So generators, for instance, are planning to spend billions of
dollars on new generation, which we need, so that price
impact will come through as well, and also any increases
(14:49):
that electricity retailers make so household bills are going to
go up by more than the ten dollars a month
that the Commission's flag.
Speaker 2 (14:58):
Yeah, interesting, John, thank you very much for that. Appreciate
your time, John Harbored Major Electricity US. This group they're
saying that as a percentage, big businesses, big news is
will pay more because they pay more for the transmission
as a percentage of their outgoings. Just so that you know,
for consumers, it's approximately ten dollars a month or one
hundred and twenty dollars annually for the first year, and
then it is five dollars a month or fifty five
(15:20):
dollars annually for it for the year, every every for
the next four years, I should say, And that would
bring your total to around three hundred and forty dollars
per year extra on your power bills within five years.
Speaker 1 (15:35):
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Talks ITV News Talks B twenty eight after five. Everyone
hates gangs unless you're in them. You hate them because
they intimidate, they cause misery, they beat their wives, they
do all sorts of awful things. But I just worry
that the gang patch ban in and of itself, it's
(16:00):
not really going to solve the underlying causes of it,
is it? And what I worry about is the waste
that could go into this, the waste of time, police
energy and resources running after you. Every time Betty sees
a gang patch, she rings in one one one, Oh,
I've seen the Magro mob, which is fine because I
know it's intimidating. I'm just I'm not being disparaging of Betty. However,
(16:25):
that is going to tie up some police time which
could be better spent solving an actual crime. The other
problem here is the design of the insignia the gang patch.
So at the moment the police know the designs of
each of the patches or mobs patches, what they're apparently
doing is going down through and making subtle changes, adding
(16:46):
words like manifenua or changing this logo or that logo.
So sure, you will take the patch, you will collect
it as evidence, you will take it to court, and
the lawyers will argue it's different mean and where are
we now with our legal bills and our legal aid
bills and what have we actually achieved in doing that?
(17:07):
Have we reduced crime or have we increased the cost
of administering administering a fashion police policy. You know, that's
my only concern. Twenty nine after five News Talks to B,
we'll check in with the police on the first five
hours of the ban.
Speaker 1 (17:24):
Just before six, Ryan Bridge you for twenty twenty four
on early edition with Smith City, New Zealand's Furniture Beds
and a playing store.
Speaker 2 (17:39):
News Talk ZIB, Good morning New Zealand. It is twenty
four minutes away from six year on News TALKSB, which
means we're five hours and twenty four minutes into our
gang patch band. We're going to catch up with Paul Basham.
He's the police assays and commissioner in charge of this band.
(18:01):
How many have they caught so far? He's with us
just before six this morning. Also, the US embassy in
Kiev has been closed. This is in Ukraine and this
is for faars that Russia is going to retaliate after
what we've spoke about yesterday the long range missiles. Calm
down everyone. Ukraine says this is just psychological warfare. They're
trying to freak them out. But anyway, the US embassy
(18:23):
there has been cleared for the day, along with a
couple of others. In Vidia, this is going to be
big news today. This is now the most valuable public
company in the world in video. It's the chip maker,
the AI chip maker. Profit expected to be around seventeen
point four billion. It's reporting its earnings today and that's
off the back of a near doubling in sales. It's
(18:43):
incredible story. So this company was worth two percent of
Apple's value ten years ago, two percent like the number
between one and three. It's now just three percent shy
of apple total three trillion dollars valuation. It's an incredible
(19:04):
meteoric rise. And today they look like they might just
hit them at the post and become the most profitable, sorry,
the most valuable company in the entire world. Twenty three
minutes away from six, we're going to our reporters around
the country. Columns in dunedan calum confirmation that younger dairy
cattle produce almost half the greenhouse gases of older ones.
(19:26):
Ye Morning Ride. This is an agg research study.
Speaker 9 (19:28):
It was commissioned by Meati, which is an Omaru based company,
and it's found that cattle raised to ten to eighteen
months has forty eight percent lower carbon footprint than average
mixed beef cattle.
Speaker 2 (19:39):
So it's hoped that this research will.
Speaker 9 (19:41):
Change how farmers treat young bobby calves, as almost two
million are considered a waste.
Speaker 2 (19:45):
Product and killed each year.
Speaker 9 (19:47):
Meati says that the studies results are not surprising, but
they're hoping to inspire people here to think of what
could add value to the red meat industry.
Speaker 2 (19:55):
Interesting. All right, how's the weather?
Speaker 9 (19:58):
A few showers for toned in fresh sol West. He's
easing in twelve today.
Speaker 2 (20:02):
Thank you. Clear the smell is finding a go away.
This is in Bromley.
Speaker 10 (20:06):
Oh, this is the smell that's just gone on and
on and on rhinan and it is finally going to
go away. We have confirmation that the demolition of part
of the wastewater treatment plant at Bromley is starting today.
As you say, the city's east especially has been plagued
by the cench, but this went right across the city
for several months, if not years, after a big fire
ripped through the trickling filters back in twenty twenty one.
(20:30):
Demolition starts today. It should take around four months to
be complete. Head of Three Waters, Gavin Hutchinson says council's
been working really hard in order to get contractors on
the ground as quickly as possible. He says the sites
isolated from the rest of the plants, so some of
the day to day operations can still continue while the
demo happens.
Speaker 2 (20:50):
Well, it's good house.
Speaker 10 (20:51):
The weather a few showers, possibly heavy and thundery with hail,
but easing by evening. Southwesterly is easing to only fifteen degrees.
Speaker 2 (21:00):
Thank you Mexis and Wellington, mex there's a missing bird.
Speaker 11 (21:03):
Yeah, this is actually quite an upsetting story. At the
beginning of the week, Pepper, a six year old cocker two,
was apparently stolen from the Staglands Wildlife Reserve in Appah.
Stagland's a popular place for kids. You can pet animals
the bird enclosure. You can't miss Pepper. She's a brilliant
white can talk, say a few phrases, and sports what
(21:23):
appears to be quite a flamboyant quiff on her head.
Quite how she was stolen, no one really knows. Staglands
reckons by someone who knew what they were doing, possibly
stuffed into a backpack or something. Perhaps there's an act
of vengeance from someone who's been nipped by her in
the past or something. Staff very upset. Please if you've
noticed someone come home with a brand new talking cocker
(21:44):
two with a few claws missing on her feet, get
in touch with police or staglands themselves. They say they
will not press charges.
Speaker 2 (21:52):
What does she say?
Speaker 11 (21:54):
She can say hello, darling and hallo pepper, which the
second one doesn't quite make sense, but she can say.
Speaker 2 (22:00):
Name ah oh, So anyone who's come home with a
cock or two get in touch. How's the web, how's
the weather?
Speaker 11 (22:08):
Some heavy rain around mid day?
Speaker 2 (22:10):
The high seventeen? Thank you neither good morning?
Speaker 1 (22:12):
Good morning?
Speaker 2 (22:13):
So dozens of watercare staff have portally been called into
an urgent meaning what's that about?
Speaker 12 (22:18):
Yes, now, look this is off the beck of Wayne Brown,
Auckland's meor's cost cutting plan. So Brown's proposing the shakeup
of the council controlled organizations. Now this includes Eki Panuku Tatuki,
Auckland Unlimited and Auckland Transport. But what we know is
that water Care didn't feature in the proposal. But the
Mayor's recommending all CEOs they speed up their back office
functions to save money. Now, a water Care source has
(22:40):
told our newsroom that potentially affected staff they were pulled
into meetings. This is within half an hour of Brown's
plans that were announced on Tuesday. So chief executive there
of water Care, Dave Chambers, he's declined to say how
many of his thirteen hundred staff could be impacted. So
that's all we know at this stage for those guys.
Speaker 2 (22:59):
Never nice thing to happen around Christmas time, is it.
How's the weather, Neva.
Speaker 12 (23:03):
We got scattered showers but they will clear this afternoon. Southwesterly,
strong in it'sposed places. Nineteen is the high here in Auckland.
Speaker 2 (23:09):
Brilliant, our wonderful Neva in Auckland, Bryan Bridge, Lots of
your texts coming in this morning on and I want
to get to them very quickly on the gang patch
ban and also on the traffic management because we heard
earlier we've gone down this huge experimental road of overly
prescriptive traffic management and guess what deaths of road workers
went up. It was a failure. This is from one
(23:33):
of our listeners this morning, Mark, Good morning Ryan. We
had a stop go person outside our house doing roadworks
and he fell asleep under a tree. My wife thought
he was dead, walked over and woke him up. I mean,
you would fall asleep, wouldn't you, because you're just sitting
there doing nothing. And now they've got those traffic lights
that do the stop go job for you. So what
are they doing there? I don't know. Anyway, it's apparently
(23:55):
we're going to change.
Speaker 5 (23:56):
Ryan.
Speaker 2 (23:56):
I live in a small provincial town in the North Island.
For more than three months before work started on repairing
the roads State Highway Too, there were hundreds of road
cones blocking off a passing lane with no indication of
what for and for how long. That's the other big
complaint is that they finished the job and leave the
cones behind.
Speaker 1 (24:17):
International correspondence with ends and eye insurance, peace of mind
for New Zealand business just go on quarter to six.
Speaker 2 (24:24):
Paul Basham, the Police Assistant Commissioner, with us in just
a few moments. Right now, Mitch McCann is stateside. Mitch,
a very tricky task on Capital Hell jd Vance is there.
They're trying to get Trump's cabinet confirmed.
Speaker 5 (24:36):
Yeah, that's Ryan, Good morning, Ryan.
Speaker 13 (24:37):
It's no secret Donald Trump has chosen some controversial choices.
I think is fair to say for his cabinet, people
like Robert F. Kennedy Junior. He's accused of being an
anti vaxer. Pete Higseth, he's a TV host on Fox News.
He's been accused in the past of sexual assault. But
perhaps the most controversial here is the now former Florida
Congressman Matt Gates, who Donald Trump is lined up to
(24:59):
be his attorney general now. He was investigated by the
FBI over six trafficking allegations, including that he had six
with a seventeen year old girl. He denies this and
wasn't charged, but a new report from lawmakers investigate his
conduct is being kept under wraps for now.
Speaker 5 (25:17):
Gates is on Capitol Hill today with JD.
Speaker 13 (25:19):
Vance as they try and convince lawmakers or senators that
are going to have to confirm his appointment that he
is good enough or he's credible enough for that job.
It's going to be a tall order because people have
already spoken out against him, but it would be quite
the defeat for Donald Trump if he does get rejected.
Speaker 2 (25:34):
Yeah, how's the cyclone the bomb cycclone that's cutting power
to thousands going?
Speaker 13 (25:40):
Yeah, so womans did hundreds of thousands of people are
without power this morning in the northwest of the US
because of this bomb cyclone. This morning, more than six
hundred thousand homes in Washington we're without power, and around
fifteen thousand customers were experiencing outages in California. Most of
the storm is going to pass later today, but there
is going to be stream rainfall four parts of California.
Speaker 2 (26:02):
Do you see many gang patches where you are in
New York?
Speaker 5 (26:06):
No?
Speaker 13 (26:07):
Actually, And I was explaining to an American friend the
other day or a British friend that I work with,
about gang patches and they didn't even know what they were.
And when I Google game patches, New Zealand was the
first thing that came up.
Speaker 5 (26:17):
So I'm not sure it's something we want to be
known for overseas.
Speaker 2 (26:20):
No, it's not, but it is something that's sort of
quite It is quite uniquely US, and the Aussies as
well have a big problem with it. Mitch, thank you.
Way out of your purview now, aren't we. Mitch McCann,
who's our US correspondent with US from New York City,
just gone thirteen away from six rich So the gang
patch ban, Will we soon become like New York and
no longer see them on the streets. The force of
(26:42):
the band is now in force. Police have been preparing
for the new rules for six months and say they
are ready to enforce them. It's not just rules around
signia changing today though, Police will be able to issue
non consulting audios to stop consulting audios orders, I should say,
to stop them talking to each other and associating with
each other. Paul Basham is the police Assistant Commissioner. He's
(27:02):
with me live this morning. Good morning, Good morning, Ryan.
Have you had any taken in yet? Have you got
any patches?
Speaker 8 (27:10):
No, not this far. We have noticed an increase in reporting,
but the increased reporting, that is to say, sighting of
gang members out and about in public, occurred before midnight
last night, as it were, And so of course the
legislation hasn't come live until midnight last night. So as
(27:31):
I talk to you now on the information that I've
got and we are still collating events from overnight, we
actually haven't issued a prosecution at this point, although we
have had the odd increase in reporting where we've dealt
with gang members as we normally would for different.
Speaker 2 (27:50):
Things, and were they wearing their patches when you dealt
with them.
Speaker 8 (27:54):
Yes, yeah, we've definitely noticed in the last twenty four
hours or sort of hours proceeding midnight, that there were
a more overt display of or more presence of gang
members wearing gang patches and public or you know.
Speaker 2 (28:10):
One last rah, sorry, one last hurrah before midnight.
Speaker 8 (28:16):
Well that might be from their perspective. You know, we
we we're dealing with gang members and their behavior up
and down the country every day, so we get reporting
about criminal behavior all the time. So the reporting that
I'm talking to you about this morning is that plus
what I would see is sort of just a heightened
awareness from the public, you know, reporting and other things
(28:40):
that of course weren't triggered by the legislation until.
Speaker 2 (28:42):
Last night, right And so after midnight, did you has
police had any interactions with gang members and if so,
were they were in their patches? You don't know?
Speaker 8 (28:53):
Oh, look, it's truly really and we're collating things from overnight.
I mean, I know we've, as I said, you know,
we deal with gang members and their behavior, things like
domestic violence and other stuff. So we would have been
doing that out last night as we normally do. But
if they're wearing their patches in their own homes. It's
not an offence that sort of thing. So I think
(29:13):
it's what's in front of us today, through this weekend,
in the next few weeks, which will be telling us.
Speaker 2 (29:19):
You said your people have been phoning in with the
you know, I've seen them someone with a game patch.
What number do people call if I see a person
with a gang patch? Do I call one one one
or do I call one oh five?
Speaker 8 (29:30):
It's a really good question. I think the same rule supply,
you know common teen supplies that people are frightened or scared,
you know, intimidated, or they're seeing something in front of them,
like a like an assault or something that has some
sort of violence and threat to life, then it's always
you know, one one one, as you normally would in
any situation where you were scared or felt threatened.
Speaker 2 (29:49):
But if it's a game member picking up broccoli at countdown,
then one oh five.
Speaker 8 (29:55):
Yeah, one IFI is probably been. And if it's something
that's historical, even online, you know, we've got to cope
with all sorts of demand and this is on top
of that. So it's just how we manage that. But
you know, the messages of people are frightened or scared
or they're seeing something that's you know, like physical harm,
then absolutely one one.
Speaker 2 (30:12):
One is it do you have extra staff? Know how
many extra staff whose specific job it is to deal
with the game patch band? Do you have?
Speaker 8 (30:23):
Yeah, well, we said the Celestial Gang Unit back in
July I think it was. That's circa twenty five staff,
sort of like a support engine here in Wellington, and
then across the country there's in a distant seventy seven
positions that have been established. That's on top of you know,
other units like technical crime units and other units that
(30:43):
are sort of doing this sort of work. And you know,
we're you know, constavory work for a force of circer
ten thousands, and so we don't sort of see it
in sort of silos. We kind of would print of
view that we're seeing you approach.
Speaker 2 (30:56):
In terms of priority. I mean, if you know you've
got murders, robberies and drug deals and whatever committed by gangs,
they're going to take priority over prosecutions for wearing a patch, right.
Speaker 8 (31:08):
Well, we have to prioritize our demand every day, our
staff and our sergeancy team leaders and do that in
the course of a shift multiple times depending on what's
in front of them, you know, plasing situational. It's hard
to predict sometimes what the shift will look like. And
you know, our people are really good at making those
sorts of decisions, prioritizing, making the odd trade off where
(31:29):
they need to. But I would say that, you know,
from a crime science point of view, if you police
a small cohort that are proportionately like to cause more
damage and violence in communities, then you get a disproportional benefit.
It's the sort of twenty eight year old in crime science,
and so to the extent that gang members are often
(31:52):
associated with violent and other forms of criminal behavior using
this legislation.
Speaker 2 (31:59):
Yeah, it a compounding interest effect on it. Yeah, I
appreciate what you're saying there, Paul, Thank you very much
for your time. Paul Bash and Police Assistant Commissioner just
gone seven minutes away from six patches off today.
Speaker 1 (32:10):
Please the news you need this morning and the in
depth analysis early edition with Ryan Bridge and Fifth City,
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Speaker 2 (32:19):
News Talk said, be five to six. Looks like the
Brits are joining the Americans on Ukraine. They have just fired.
This is according to Ukraine fired UK supplied long range
storm shadow missiles that Russian targets deep inside Russia. The
UK government not commenting on it at this stage. It's
just a report that's come up from the BBC. Mike
is here with us next. Good morning, Mike.
Speaker 14 (32:41):
Do you know how fast those missiles can fly?
Speaker 2 (32:43):
I know how far they can go? Three hundred kilometers,
thousand kilometers?
Speaker 14 (32:47):
And now do you know what the magic is? The
GPS you can't get them, can't shoot.
Speaker 2 (32:51):
Them, and the kload one point seven.
Speaker 14 (32:54):
They dodge you, so when you go to shoot them down.
Speaker 2 (32:57):
They skid away. It's clear. Do you know what the
word of the year is for the Cambridge Dictionary this year?
Speaker 1 (33:03):
Oh?
Speaker 14 (33:03):
Cambridge. I saw the Australian one, which was Colesworth.
Speaker 2 (33:07):
So what's Cambridge manifesting? Why? You know the celebrities they say,
I'm going to manifest this enough like Colesworth better than
I've never heard of. It's a combination of Cole's and Woolworths.
Because people got so angsty about supermarkets and their problems,
they call it cold. I thought that was quite good,
but manifesting is a bit annoying. I'm manifesting this and
it's going to happen. I mean, in some ways it's
(33:29):
I guess it's just like dreaming, isn't it. You have
a dream and you think about it.
Speaker 14 (33:32):
No, manifesting is making it happen. Manifesting is it happens.
Dreaming is thinking. Manifesting is different than dreaming. Don't misleave
the audience.
Speaker 8 (33:41):
Is like.
Speaker 2 (33:43):
Meaning moving something into existence.
Speaker 14 (33:45):
Yes, you're going to manifest it, to manifest us to do.
If I'm going to manifest a program that's actually going
to happen, I'm dreaming of doing the program means it
may or may not happen.
Speaker 2 (33:53):
I'm going to manifest that the mine ends.
Speaker 14 (33:56):
Well, No, that's that's really but by.
Speaker 1 (34:03):
For more from Early Edition with Ryan Bridge. Listen live
to News Talks itt B from five am weekdays, or
follow the podcast on iHeartRadio
The issues, the interviews and the inside Ryan Bridge New
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New Zealand's furniture Vans and a play at store US Dogs.
Speaker 2 (00:15):
It'd be good morning, welcome to your Thursday six after five.
Great to have your company coming up in our lead
interview before six this morning, Police on how many gang
patches they've picked up in the last waters have been
now five hours since the stroke of midnight. We're also
going to Mitch McCanns Stateside JD Varnce at Capitol Hill
trying to get Trump's cabinet confirmed. We'll have the latest
(00:37):
on Ukraine and also the three quarters of a billion
dollar bitter pill that we're all swallowing on road cones.
Speaker 1 (00:47):
The agenda.
Speaker 2 (00:48):
It is Thursday to twenty first of November. So the
United States has closed its Kiv embassy after a specific
information of a potential significant air attack from the Russians.
Speaker 3 (01:00):
Tell of ordinary residents of the capital here about that
they had two and a half hour air a siren
this morning, another forty five minute one early in the
early hours of the morning too, so very used to
incoming attacks. It's a nightly thing here, but it is
highly abnormal for essentially American diplomat to be told to
shelter away and stay away from their place of work.
Speaker 2 (01:20):
Well, I suppose that's what happens when you give them
bombs that can go be shot far into Russia. Anyway.
Italy and Greece have temporarily closed these as well. Ukraine says,
don't worry, this is just psychological warfare. More on what
Biden's given them, because there is more to Camman. A second.
In the UK, inflation has jumped two point three percent,
largely being put down to energy prices. It had been
(01:42):
sitting at one point seven for September. It's more than
the Bank of England was expecting. They thought it'd get
to two point two, but it's gone two point three.
This means for them the cost of living crisis is
not over, and not great news for labor ivor either,
who's just done a big text and spend budget. The
Ossies are doing it and now the UK might as well.
(02:03):
The Technology Secretary they are saying it's possible a social
media ban for under sixteen's is on the table.
Speaker 4 (02:10):
I don't want to go to things like blanket bands
because I want people to benefit from all of the
opportunities presented by modern technology, but where there are harms,
I will keep everything on the table.
Speaker 2 (02:20):
I don't want to do this, but I don't want
to do that, So what really am I going to do?
The Justice Minister Paul Goldsmith is proposing changes to name
suppression laws. He wants to stop courts from issuing a
permanent name suppression order for an adult convicted of a
sexual offense unless the victim agrees to it. The proposed
changes would also see victims of intimate recordings being given
(02:43):
automatic name suppression. That seems fair enough. If somebody's film
during you didn't know what was happening, and you're a victim,
why should you be named in court something that doesn't
happen under the current rules.
Speaker 1 (02:53):
The first word on the News of the Day in
early edition with Ryan Bridge and fith City, New Zealand's.
Speaker 2 (02:59):
Fo to bed and a plan Store, you talk say
name suppression. I've always thought it weird that you would
be accused of a crime. Someone can point the finger
and say that guy stole a car, or that guy
did that or whatever, and you're named publicly for that
before you've actually faced trial or been before a judge.
(03:21):
Does that not strike you as odd?
Speaker 5 (03:23):
Shouldn't?
Speaker 2 (03:24):
Shouldn't you? Like, sure, if you're found guilty of a crime,
name and shame, But until that point, nothing's been proven,
So why should your name be out there? I don't know,
It's always seemed a little bit weird to me. Maybe
you have a different view. Nine two ninety two is
the number to text Regional Economy. We've got an update
for you this morning. This one is the September quarter
(03:45):
from Informtrics. It's an early report actually from them, just
indicative numbers at the stage activity flat surprise, surprise. The
provinces and rural areas doing really tough, down point three
point four percent. That's a year to September nine, metro
areas up point one percent. I mean, it's all pretty sad,
isn't it? A bit lackluster tax cuts now, they came
(04:07):
in in September. During this September quarter, we've also had
lower interest rates, and what have we done with them? Nothing.
There's been no significant boost in the September quarter from
either our personal income tax cuts or from the lowering
interest rates. So what are we doing with our money? Well,
probably paying off bills, I imagine or maybe you're saving
to you spend it at Christmas hopefully nine two nine two,
(04:31):
if you can answer that one. On the upside, dairy
and meat prices are recovering. They're starting to rebound, and
actually will to talk more about dairy prices as well,
because we've got another bank coming out saying ten bucks
eleven after five. You're on News Talks there, b this
is your Thursday morning Brian Bridge. Oh, just by the way,
(04:55):
if ever there was a time that you wanted your
phone charged, your bills, pay a clear signal on your
Wi Fi, it's during the threat of a nuclear wall
with your worst enemy. Right, yes, we can all agree
on that. We'll get this. The hotline that is set
up to diffuse crises between the Kremlin and the White
(05:15):
House is not currently in use. Good luck everybody.
Speaker 1 (05:29):
On your radio and online on iHeartRadio early edition with
Ryan Bridge and Smith City New Zealand's Furniture Beds and
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Speaker 2 (05:39):
B two is the number to text. We'll talk why
your electricity bills going up next year and every year
for the next five years. And that's just to look
after the lines, not even to do with supply demand.
We'll talk about that next. Also, just before six, the
gang patch ban is in place. How many patches have
they picked up in the last five hours and fourteen minutes.
(06:00):
We'll let you know. We've got the cops on just
really quickly. We were talking about that hotline between the
US and the Kremlin. It was set up during the
Cold War because what they used to have to do
during the Cold War. I was listening to a podcast
about this the other day. They had to use the
Western Union. They would have delivery boys on bikes for
the Western Union that would literally have to hand deliver
(06:21):
messages from President Kennedy. Jump on a bike, go round
to the Russian embassy, deliver the message. That's how they
were communicating. So anyway, they said the idea was, let's
make it faster. They set up a hotline. They've got
the hot line now in the middle of this shite show.
It's not working. Spray and Bridge qut A past five.
(06:43):
Great to have your company this morning. So NZTA spent
an eyewater and get this, three quarters of a billion
bucks of taxpayers money on road cones and temporary traffic
management in the past three years. And that doesn't include
spending on local councils and contract what does. The Minister
of Transport, Siman Brown says the cost is eye watering
(07:04):
and excessive. Dave Tilton is the former chair of the
Temporary Traffic Management Industry Staring Group. He's with me this morning, Dave,
Good morning, morning r Now, Unfortunately, I think there is
a direct correlation between the length of somebody's job title
and their productivity. So I'm not I'm not holding out
hope for this. Okay, Dave tell me is he right?
(07:25):
Does he have a point? Are we spending too much?
Speaker 6 (07:29):
I think generally the answer would be yes. Is the
waste in the system?
Speaker 7 (07:32):
Without question?
Speaker 8 (07:33):
Yeah?
Speaker 6 (07:34):
I suppose how much?
Speaker 7 (07:36):
Is it wasteful?
Speaker 6 (07:37):
That's there isn't a direct answer to that question yet.
Speaker 2 (07:40):
I don't think whose fault is the waste? Is it
the industry that you're representing, or is it the government
regulation or both?
Speaker 6 (07:48):
I think historically it would be the system that's constructed
around it, how the decisions get made as to how
much TTAM gets deployed. So historically it's been a very
prescriptive system and that hasn't given a lot of room
for more pragmatic or site specific considerations. So systemically it
hasn't it isn't designed to generate the right amount if
(08:11):
you like.
Speaker 2 (08:12):
Okay, so the system because the government has just changed
the system, so it's less Intense's.
Speaker 6 (08:17):
Probably changed about twenty twenty one was where that spun up,
So that certainly predates the current government.
Speaker 2 (08:23):
Yeah, right, So is that where they made it more
intense or less intense?
Speaker 7 (08:27):
I wouldn't say.
Speaker 6 (08:28):
Probably intensity is probably the word I use, isn't quite right,
but more flexible.
Speaker 2 (08:33):
Call it that.
Speaker 6 (08:34):
And that's where that risk based system started to get designed,
and it just this year it started to implement. But
of course it predates in terms of its design and concept,
and now it's starting to hit the ground.
Speaker 2 (08:49):
Okay, so the risk based system is cheaper.
Speaker 6 (08:53):
It can be, yes, I mean, there is a percentage
of waste in the system, and this method should engineer
out that waste better than the old method. But it's
very dependent on how people do it and how people
use it, and certainly the capability in the system to
do that, which is probably the piece that's lacking. We've
got twenty five plus years of prescriptive thinking that's going
(09:14):
to take it while to get out there's a lot
of inertia that comes.
Speaker 2 (09:17):
With that, right, So what percentage of a big voting
project should be on traffic management? Typically?
Speaker 6 (09:24):
Well, that seven or on six million is nine point
three percent of their total spend out of almost eight
and a half billion. So it's actually pretty small when
you think of as a that's a very big number,
not diminishing that, but certainly as a percentage, it's actually
quite small. How I've been involved in projects that are
more than that, and if it was half that, that'd
(09:44):
be amazing, But I you know, there is a limit
on how low that can be in terms of getting
worked done.
Speaker 2 (09:49):
How does that compare to overseas?
Speaker 6 (09:53):
There isn't a huge amount of data on that, but
it's not double. Put it that way, it would be
within five seen either way, certainly.
Speaker 2 (10:01):
Okay, which is still significant. What about for like local councils.
There was a traffic light that has been installed in
a crossing in Auckland and they reckon that the TTM
was twenty five to thirty five percent of the cost.
I mean, you've got a small suburban street, I've seen
it happen, and you've got not only these temporary traffic
light things. But you've got someone with a stop ghost
(10:23):
sign standing next to the traffic light, I mean, what
the hell's going on there?
Speaker 6 (10:28):
And like, I don't know specific examples, but those are
the kind of situations where that flexible approach might lead
to a much more pragmatic outcome. So there isn't you
know when you when you look, I mean, it's clearly
lots of prescription that's happening now, you know. Yeah, correct,
So when you load something that was you know a
(10:50):
certain about a prescription where someone goes a lot. These
are the rules I have to follow and you know,
I've got no other way to do it, and that's
how the system's constructed around them. Then yeah, you're going
to eat that with some some mismatches of environment versus
risk versus treatments.
Speaker 2 (11:04):
Okay, someone is someone have we saved lives with the
more prescriptive method. Was a fewer deaths than there are now? No,
actually the opposite.
Speaker 6 (11:13):
So death and serious injuries from TTM has climbed pretty
considerably over the last twenty years, which, to be honest,
was the original trigger for the rest based approach being explored.
So you know, ultimately the method hasn't really worked, although
it's not to say that, you know, it was a
bad idea. That's how the world works, that's how every
(11:36):
other country does it. This rest based approach from New
Zealand is world first. Really, no one else is really
doing it this.
Speaker 2 (11:41):
Way, all right, Dave, thanks very much for your time.
Appreciate it. Dave Tilton, who's the former chair of the
Temporary Traffic Management Industry Steering Group, saying that basically we
tried to do it in a prescriptive way. It cost
us a hell of a lot of money and it
didn't even work.
Speaker 1 (11:56):
News and Views you trust has done your day's earlier
this with Ryan Bridge and Smith City, New Zealand's furniture
beds and a playing store.
Speaker 2 (12:04):
News Talk said, b Or, if you've got a good
traffic cone story, I would love to hear it. There's
one round around the corner from my street, and honestly,
it's a whole the size of my foot in the
side of the road with a truck next to it,
a van next to that, and then one hundred thousand
people doing traffic management and it's been there for more
(12:25):
than a week and sometimes they're not even working on it.
I just don't I don't understand. Twenty two minutes after
five News Talk, said b Ryan Bridge, show, and look
at your power bills for the next few years, people,
they're going to get a bit ugly. It's because the
Commerce Commission has given permission to Transpower and the local
lines companies to up their charges. They're doing this because
they need to upgrade the network, is weather issues coming,
(12:47):
More of us are using evs and not enough gas,
et cetera, putting more pressure on the network. John John
Hubbard is the Major Electricity Users Group chairing. He's with
us this morning. John, Good morning. What impact will this,
if any, have on business?
Speaker 7 (13:04):
Look, I think it's it's important to note that the
impact on Certney, large sort of industrial manufacturers will be
more significant than what's going to impact households. And that's
because those large businesses don't buy their electricity from retailers,
so the percentage of their bill that comes from transmission
and distribution is higher. So what we're going to see
(13:25):
is those large employers, many of whom are already struggling,
their electricity bills are going to go up considerably more
than about the five percent increase that households are looking at.
Speaker 2 (13:35):
What percent are we're talking, Well, it's.
Speaker 7 (13:37):
Going to vary by businesses. So you get some very
large users like the Alu Medium smells at ty, who
buy their electricity direct from the national grid. Others will
be going through their lines company, so it varies by
the businesses.
Speaker 2 (13:51):
What's the max.
Speaker 7 (13:54):
Well, some of them buy oh I think you're looking
at you know, well over two percent of their bills
for transmission, transmission and distribution year.
Speaker 2 (14:06):
And they'll be going up by do you know and
sort of a range.
Speaker 7 (14:11):
It's very hard to say. The Commission very consciously didn't
provide any estimates, and that's just because of the variability
of the nature of the businesses we're talking about.
Speaker 2 (14:19):
Right, Okay, do you think it's going to be enough
significant enough to put some of them out of business?
We have seen that in the last couple of months
with spot prices.
Speaker 7 (14:29):
Not in and of itself, but it's important to note,
and this applies to households as well, is what the
Commission has approved is just increases in transmission and distribution.
So generators, for instance, are planning to spend billions of
dollars on new generation, which we need, so that price
impact will come through as well, and also any increases
(14:49):
that electricity retailers make so household bills are going to
go up by more than the ten dollars a month
that the Commission's flag.
Speaker 2 (14:58):
Yeah, interesting, John, thank you very much for that. Appreciate
your time, John Harbored Major Electricity US. This group they're
saying that as a percentage, big businesses, big news is
will pay more because they pay more for the transmission
as a percentage of their outgoings. Just so that you know,
for consumers, it's approximately ten dollars a month or one
hundred and twenty dollars annually for the first year, and
then it is five dollars a month or fifty five
(15:20):
dollars annually for it for the year, every every for
the next four years, I should say, And that would
bring your total to around three hundred and forty dollars
per year extra on your power bills within five years.
Speaker 1 (15:35):
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Talks ITV News Talks B twenty eight after five. Everyone
hates gangs unless you're in them. You hate them because
they intimidate, they cause misery, they beat their wives, they
do all sorts of awful things. But I just worry
that the gang patch ban in and of itself, it's
(16:00):
not really going to solve the underlying causes of it,
is it? And what I worry about is the waste
that could go into this, the waste of time, police
energy and resources running after you. Every time Betty sees
a gang patch, she rings in one one one, Oh,
I've seen the Magro mob, which is fine because I
know it's intimidating. I'm just I'm not being disparaging of Betty. However,
(16:25):
that is going to tie up some police time which
could be better spent solving an actual crime. The other
problem here is the design of the insignia the gang patch.
So at the moment the police know the designs of
each of the patches or mobs patches, what they're apparently
doing is going down through and making subtle changes, adding
(16:46):
words like manifenua or changing this logo or that logo.
So sure, you will take the patch, you will collect
it as evidence, you will take it to court, and
the lawyers will argue it's different mean and where are
we now with our legal bills and our legal aid
bills and what have we actually achieved in doing that?
(17:07):
Have we reduced crime or have we increased the cost
of administering administering a fashion police policy. You know, that's
my only concern. Twenty nine after five News Talks to B,
we'll check in with the police on the first five
hours of the ban.
Speaker 1 (17:24):
Just before six, Ryan Bridge you for twenty twenty four
on early edition with Smith City, New Zealand's Furniture Beds
and a playing store.
Speaker 2 (17:39):
News Talk ZIB, Good morning New Zealand. It is twenty
four minutes away from six year on News TALKSB, which
means we're five hours and twenty four minutes into our
gang patch band. We're going to catch up with Paul Basham.
He's the police assays and commissioner in charge of this band.
(18:01):
How many have they caught so far? He's with us
just before six this morning. Also, the US embassy in
Kiev has been closed. This is in Ukraine and this
is for faars that Russia is going to retaliate after
what we've spoke about yesterday the long range missiles. Calm
down everyone. Ukraine says this is just psychological warfare. They're
trying to freak them out. But anyway, the US embassy
(18:23):
there has been cleared for the day, along with a
couple of others. In Vidia, this is going to be
big news today. This is now the most valuable public
company in the world in video. It's the chip maker,
the AI chip maker. Profit expected to be around seventeen
point four billion. It's reporting its earnings today and that's
off the back of a near doubling in sales. It's
(18:43):
incredible story. So this company was worth two percent of
Apple's value ten years ago, two percent like the number
between one and three. It's now just three percent shy
of apple total three trillion dollars valuation. It's an incredible
(19:04):
meteoric rise. And today they look like they might just
hit them at the post and become the most profitable, sorry,
the most valuable company in the entire world. Twenty three
minutes away from six, we're going to our reporters around
the country. Columns in dunedan calum confirmation that younger dairy
cattle produce almost half the greenhouse gases of older ones.
(19:26):
Ye Morning Ride. This is an agg research study.
Speaker 9 (19:28):
It was commissioned by Meati, which is an Omaru based company,
and it's found that cattle raised to ten to eighteen
months has forty eight percent lower carbon footprint than average
mixed beef cattle.
Speaker 2 (19:39):
So it's hoped that this research will.
Speaker 9 (19:41):
Change how farmers treat young bobby calves, as almost two
million are considered a waste.
Speaker 2 (19:45):
Product and killed each year.
Speaker 9 (19:47):
Meati says that the studies results are not surprising, but
they're hoping to inspire people here to think of what
could add value to the red meat industry.
Speaker 2 (19:55):
Interesting. All right, how's the weather?
Speaker 9 (19:58):
A few showers for toned in fresh sol West. He's
easing in twelve today.
Speaker 2 (20:02):
Thank you. Clear the smell is finding a go away.
This is in Bromley.
Speaker 10 (20:06):
Oh, this is the smell that's just gone on and
on and on rhinan and it is finally going to
go away. We have confirmation that the demolition of part
of the wastewater treatment plant at Bromley is starting today.
As you say, the city's east especially has been plagued
by the cench, but this went right across the city
for several months, if not years, after a big fire
ripped through the trickling filters back in twenty twenty one.
(20:30):
Demolition starts today. It should take around four months to
be complete. Head of Three Waters, Gavin Hutchinson says council's
been working really hard in order to get contractors on
the ground as quickly as possible. He says the sites
isolated from the rest of the plants, so some of
the day to day operations can still continue while the
demo happens.
Speaker 2 (20:50):
Well, it's good house.
Speaker 10 (20:51):
The weather a few showers, possibly heavy and thundery with hail,
but easing by evening. Southwesterly is easing to only fifteen degrees.
Speaker 2 (21:00):
Thank you Mexis and Wellington, mex there's a missing bird.
Speaker 11 (21:03):
Yeah, this is actually quite an upsetting story. At the
beginning of the week, Pepper, a six year old cocker two,
was apparently stolen from the Staglands Wildlife Reserve in Appah.
Stagland's a popular place for kids. You can pet animals
the bird enclosure. You can't miss Pepper. She's a brilliant
white can talk, say a few phrases, and sports what
(21:23):
appears to be quite a flamboyant quiff on her head.
Quite how she was stolen, no one really knows. Staglands
reckons by someone who knew what they were doing, possibly
stuffed into a backpack or something. Perhaps there's an act
of vengeance from someone who's been nipped by her in
the past or something. Staff very upset. Please if you've
noticed someone come home with a brand new talking cocker
(21:44):
two with a few claws missing on her feet, get
in touch with police or staglands themselves. They say they
will not press charges.
Speaker 2 (21:52):
What does she say?
Speaker 11 (21:54):
She can say hello, darling and hallo pepper, which the
second one doesn't quite make sense, but she can say.
Speaker 2 (22:00):
Name ah oh, So anyone who's come home with a
cock or two get in touch. How's the web, how's
the weather?
Speaker 11 (22:08):
Some heavy rain around mid day?
Speaker 2 (22:10):
The high seventeen? Thank you neither good morning?
Speaker 1 (22:12):
Good morning?
Speaker 2 (22:13):
So dozens of watercare staff have portally been called into
an urgent meaning what's that about?
Speaker 12 (22:18):
Yes, now, look this is off the beck of Wayne Brown,
Auckland's meor's cost cutting plan. So Brown's proposing the shakeup
of the council controlled organizations. Now this includes Eki Panuku Tatuki,
Auckland Unlimited and Auckland Transport. But what we know is
that water Care didn't feature in the proposal. But the
Mayor's recommending all CEOs they speed up their back office
functions to save money. Now, a water Care source has
(22:40):
told our newsroom that potentially affected staff they were pulled
into meetings. This is within half an hour of Brown's
plans that were announced on Tuesday. So chief executive there
of water Care, Dave Chambers, he's declined to say how
many of his thirteen hundred staff could be impacted. So
that's all we know at this stage for those guys.
Speaker 2 (22:59):
Never nice thing to happen around Christmas time, is it.
How's the weather, Neva.
Speaker 12 (23:03):
We got scattered showers but they will clear this afternoon. Southwesterly,
strong in it'sposed places. Nineteen is the high here in Auckland.
Speaker 2 (23:09):
Brilliant, our wonderful Neva in Auckland, Bryan Bridge, Lots of
your texts coming in this morning on and I want
to get to them very quickly on the gang patch
ban and also on the traffic management because we heard
earlier we've gone down this huge experimental road of overly
prescriptive traffic management and guess what deaths of road workers
went up. It was a failure. This is from one
(23:33):
of our listeners this morning, Mark, Good morning Ryan. We
had a stop go person outside our house doing roadworks
and he fell asleep under a tree. My wife thought
he was dead, walked over and woke him up. I mean,
you would fall asleep, wouldn't you, because you're just sitting
there doing nothing. And now they've got those traffic lights
that do the stop go job for you. So what
are they doing there? I don't know. Anyway, it's apparently
(23:55):
we're going to change.
Speaker 5 (23:56):
Ryan.
Speaker 2 (23:56):
I live in a small provincial town in the North Island.
For more than three months before work started on repairing
the roads State Highway Too, there were hundreds of road
cones blocking off a passing lane with no indication of
what for and for how long. That's the other big
complaint is that they finished the job and leave the
cones behind.
Speaker 1 (24:17):
International correspondence with ends and eye insurance, peace of mind
for New Zealand business just go on quarter to six.
Speaker 2 (24:24):
Paul Basham, the Police Assistant Commissioner, with us in just
a few moments. Right now, Mitch McCann is stateside. Mitch,
a very tricky task on Capital Hell jd Vance is there.
They're trying to get Trump's cabinet confirmed.
Speaker 5 (24:36):
Yeah, that's Ryan, Good morning, Ryan.
Speaker 13 (24:37):
It's no secret Donald Trump has chosen some controversial choices.
I think is fair to say for his cabinet, people
like Robert F. Kennedy Junior. He's accused of being an
anti vaxer. Pete Higseth, he's a TV host on Fox News.
He's been accused in the past of sexual assault. But
perhaps the most controversial here is the now former Florida
Congressman Matt Gates, who Donald Trump is lined up to
(24:59):
be his attorney general now. He was investigated by the
FBI over six trafficking allegations, including that he had six
with a seventeen year old girl. He denies this and
wasn't charged, but a new report from lawmakers investigate his
conduct is being kept under wraps for now.
Speaker 5 (25:17):
Gates is on Capitol Hill today with JD.
Speaker 13 (25:19):
Vance as they try and convince lawmakers or senators that
are going to have to confirm his appointment that he
is good enough or he's credible enough for that job.
It's going to be a tall order because people have
already spoken out against him, but it would be quite
the defeat for Donald Trump if he does get rejected.
Speaker 2 (25:34):
Yeah, how's the cyclone the bomb cycclone that's cutting power
to thousands going?
Speaker 13 (25:40):
Yeah, so womans did hundreds of thousands of people are
without power this morning in the northwest of the US
because of this bomb cyclone. This morning, more than six
hundred thousand homes in Washington we're without power, and around
fifteen thousand customers were experiencing outages in California. Most of
the storm is going to pass later today, but there
is going to be stream rainfall four parts of California.
Speaker 2 (26:02):
Do you see many gang patches where you are in
New York?
Speaker 5 (26:06):
No?
Speaker 13 (26:07):
Actually, And I was explaining to an American friend the
other day or a British friend that I work with,
about gang patches and they didn't even know what they were.
And when I Google game patches, New Zealand was the
first thing that came up.
Speaker 5 (26:17):
So I'm not sure it's something we want to be
known for overseas.
Speaker 2 (26:20):
No, it's not, but it is something that's sort of
quite It is quite uniquely US, and the Aussies as
well have a big problem with it. Mitch, thank you.
Way out of your purview now, aren't we. Mitch McCann,
who's our US correspondent with US from New York City,
just gone thirteen away from six rich So the gang
patch ban, Will we soon become like New York and
no longer see them on the streets. The force of
(26:42):
the band is now in force. Police have been preparing
for the new rules for six months and say they
are ready to enforce them. It's not just rules around
signia changing today though, Police will be able to issue
non consulting audios to stop consulting audios orders, I should say,
to stop them talking to each other and associating with
each other. Paul Basham is the police Assistant Commissioner. He's
(27:02):
with me live this morning. Good morning, Good morning, Ryan.
Have you had any taken in yet? Have you got
any patches?
Speaker 8 (27:10):
No, not this far. We have noticed an increase in reporting,
but the increased reporting, that is to say, sighting of
gang members out and about in public, occurred before midnight
last night, as it were, And so of course the
legislation hasn't come live until midnight last night. So as
(27:31):
I talk to you now on the information that I've
got and we are still collating events from overnight, we
actually haven't issued a prosecution at this point, although we
have had the odd increase in reporting where we've dealt
with gang members as we normally would for different.
Speaker 2 (27:50):
Things, and were they wearing their patches when you dealt
with them.
Speaker 8 (27:54):
Yes, yeah, we've definitely noticed in the last twenty four
hours or sort of hours proceeding midnight, that there were
a more overt display of or more presence of gang
members wearing gang patches and public or you know.
Speaker 2 (28:10):
One last rah, sorry, one last hurrah before midnight.
Speaker 8 (28:16):
Well that might be from their perspective. You know, we
we we're dealing with gang members and their behavior up
and down the country every day, so we get reporting
about criminal behavior all the time. So the reporting that
I'm talking to you about this morning is that plus
what I would see is sort of just a heightened
awareness from the public, you know, reporting and other things
(28:40):
that of course weren't triggered by the legislation until.
Speaker 2 (28:42):
Last night, right And so after midnight, did you has
police had any interactions with gang members and if so,
were they were in their patches? You don't know?
Speaker 8 (28:53):
Oh, look, it's truly really and we're collating things from overnight.
I mean, I know we've, as I said, you know,
we deal with gang members and their behavior, things like
domestic violence and other stuff. So we would have been
doing that out last night as we normally do. But
if they're wearing their patches in their own homes. It's
not an offence that sort of thing. So I think
(29:13):
it's what's in front of us today, through this weekend,
in the next few weeks, which will be telling us.
Speaker 2 (29:19):
You said your people have been phoning in with the
you know, I've seen them someone with a game patch.
What number do people call if I see a person
with a gang patch? Do I call one one one
or do I call one oh five?
Speaker 8 (29:30):
It's a really good question. I think the same rule supply,
you know common teen supplies that people are frightened or scared,
you know, intimidated, or they're seeing something in front of them,
like a like an assault or something that has some
sort of violence and threat to life, then it's always
you know, one one one, as you normally would in
any situation where you were scared or felt threatened.
Speaker 2 (29:49):
But if it's a game member picking up broccoli at countdown,
then one oh five.
Speaker 8 (29:55):
Yeah, one IFI is probably been. And if it's something
that's historical, even online, you know, we've got to cope
with all sorts of demand and this is on top
of that. So it's just how we manage that. But
you know, the messages of people are frightened or scared
or they're seeing something that's you know, like physical harm,
then absolutely one one.
Speaker 2 (30:12):
One is it do you have extra staff? Know how
many extra staff whose specific job it is to deal
with the game patch band? Do you have?
Speaker 8 (30:23):
Yeah, well, we said the Celestial Gang Unit back in
July I think it was. That's circa twenty five staff,
sort of like a support engine here in Wellington, and
then across the country there's in a distant seventy seven
positions that have been established. That's on top of you know,
other units like technical crime units and other units that
(30:43):
are sort of doing this sort of work. And you know,
we're you know, constavory work for a force of circer
ten thousands, and so we don't sort of see it
in sort of silos. We kind of would print of
view that we're seeing you approach.
Speaker 2 (30:56):
In terms of priority. I mean, if you know you've
got murders, robberies and drug deals and whatever committed by gangs,
they're going to take priority over prosecutions for wearing a patch, right.
Speaker 8 (31:08):
Well, we have to prioritize our demand every day, our
staff and our sergeancy team leaders and do that in
the course of a shift multiple times depending on what's
in front of them, you know, plasing situational. It's hard
to predict sometimes what the shift will look like. And
you know, our people are really good at making those
sorts of decisions, prioritizing, making the odd trade off where
(31:29):
they need to. But I would say that, you know,
from a crime science point of view, if you police
a small cohort that are proportionately like to cause more
damage and violence in communities, then you get a disproportional benefit.
It's the sort of twenty eight year old in crime science,
and so to the extent that gang members are often
(31:52):
associated with violent and other forms of criminal behavior using
this legislation.
Speaker 2 (31:59):
Yeah, it a compounding interest effect on it. Yeah, I
appreciate what you're saying there, Paul, Thank you very much
for your time. Paul Bash and Police Assistant Commissioner just
gone seven minutes away from six patches off today.
Speaker 1 (32:10):
Please the news you need this morning and the in
depth analysis early edition with Ryan Bridge and Fifth City,
New Zealand's furniture Beds and a playing store.
Speaker 2 (32:19):
News Talk said, be five to six. Looks like the
Brits are joining the Americans on Ukraine. They have just fired.
This is according to Ukraine fired UK supplied long range
storm shadow missiles that Russian targets deep inside Russia. The
UK government not commenting on it at this stage. It's
just a report that's come up from the BBC. Mike
is here with us next. Good morning, Mike.
Speaker 14 (32:41):
Do you know how fast those missiles can fly?
Speaker 2 (32:43):
I know how far they can go? Three hundred kilometers,
thousand kilometers?
Speaker 14 (32:47):
And now do you know what the magic is? The
GPS you can't get them, can't shoot.
Speaker 2 (32:51):
Them, and the kload one point seven.
Speaker 14 (32:54):
They dodge you, so when you go to shoot them down.
Speaker 2 (32:57):
They skid away. It's clear. Do you know what the
word of the year is for the Cambridge Dictionary this year?
Speaker 1 (33:03):
Oh?
Speaker 14 (33:03):
Cambridge. I saw the Australian one, which was Colesworth.
Speaker 2 (33:07):
So what's Cambridge manifesting? Why? You know the celebrities they say,
I'm going to manifest this enough like Colesworth better than
I've never heard of. It's a combination of Cole's and Woolworths.
Because people got so angsty about supermarkets and their problems,
they call it cold. I thought that was quite good,
but manifesting is a bit annoying. I'm manifesting this and
it's going to happen. I mean, in some ways it's
(33:29):
I guess it's just like dreaming, isn't it. You have
a dream and you think about it.
Speaker 14 (33:32):
No, manifesting is making it happen. Manifesting is it happens.
Dreaming is thinking. Manifesting is different than dreaming. Don't misleave
the audience.
Speaker 8 (33:41):
Is like.
Speaker 2 (33:43):
Meaning moving something into existence.
Speaker 14 (33:45):
Yes, you're going to manifest it, to manifest us to do.
If I'm going to manifest a program that's actually going
to happen, I'm dreaming of doing the program means it
may or may not happen.
Speaker 2 (33:53):
I'm going to manifest that the mine ends.
Speaker 14 (33:56):
Well, No, that's that's really but by.
Speaker 1 (34:03):
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