November 28, 2024 • 33 mins
On the Early Edition with Ryan Bridge Full Show Podcast for Friday 29th of November, the first phase of the Royal Commission into our pandemic response is out, and Lady Deborah Chambers says Labour should apologise. She explained why to Ryan.
Could you be paying more for public transport in the New Year? NZTA wants councils to increase their revenue share, so public transport leaders have written to the Transport Minister requesting a meeting. Greater Wellington Regional Council Chair Daran Ponter wrote the letter and joins the show.
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
The issues, the interviews and the inside. Ryan Bridge new
for twenty twenty four on the early edition with Smith City,
New Zealand's furniture Vans and a play at store.
Speaker 2 (00:14):
News Talks, it'd be good, A good morning. It's six
after five year on News Talks, it'd be I can
confirm today's Black Friday for anyone who's wanting a sale
or wanting a bargain, although it has technically been running
all week. Lady Deborah Chambers, you'll remember the opinion piece
she wrote during COVID, which was highly controversial but right
(00:35):
on the money. She reacts to the first phase of
the COVID inquiry. Just before six this morning, we're going
to talk to the Greater Wellington Regional Council and before
you go, it's about a potential seventy percent increase in
public transport prices. Are ay fairmongering. Vincent McAvennie is in
the UK and Putin is gearing up for a bigger,
(00:58):
more expanded or on Ukraine will have details the agenda.
It is right at the twenty ninth of November. Welcome
to the program. It's past. Australia's the first country to
ban under sixteen year olds from sosh Med that comes
into falls later next year.
Speaker 3 (01:17):
We know there is wide press spread concern and evidence
about the severe mental health impact of social media on children.
We've seen very disturbing global trends and youth mental health
since the rise of social media.
Speaker 2 (01:31):
Do you know how I know this is not going
to work? Social media companies face fines of up to
fifty four million dollars for non compliance. Drop in the ocean,
Russian drone and missile strikes have hit twelve targets according
to Ukraine's Air Force, mostly energy and fuel facilities. Around
one million people are without power right now as a
result of these latest strikes. Meanwhile, Putin has said Russia
(01:54):
has begun manufacturing new nuclear capable weapons and is selecting
targets for them in Ukraine, including in Kiev's decision making centers.
Winston Peters has put out of release over the Night'll
get to that shortly. Surprise, surprise. Israel and hissbil I
have accused each other of breaking the ceasefire. This is
(02:15):
twenty four hours in.
Speaker 4 (02:17):
Israel says what they're calling suspects had made their way
to southern Lebanon. Israeli tanks have reportedly hit six areas
along the border. A Hasbela official is now accusing Israel
of attacking people going back to their villages.
Speaker 2 (02:33):
UK can't count. They told us they had net migration
positive net migration numbers for June twenty twenty three. They
said at the time that it was about seven hundred
and forty odd. They've added one hundred and sixty six
thousand people that they didn't count. That number has since
come down.
Speaker 5 (02:51):
The Independent Office of National Statistics to conducted vital work
on the state of immigration. The previous government were running
an open borders experiment.
Speaker 1 (03:05):
The first word on the News of the Day early
edition with Ryan Bridge and Smith City, New Zealand's furniture
beds and a playing store news talks.
Speaker 2 (03:14):
They'd be nine after five news talks. They'd be great
to have your company on a Friday morning. They said
that Mark Mitchell's war on gangs wouldn't work. Remember that
it'd be ineffective and people wouldn't feel any safer. What
I saw on the news yesterday at Matzipiphi and the
Bay of Plenty proved them all wrong. A big line
of big burly cops longer than your arms, stopping the
(03:37):
gangs in their tracks. Fourteen arrests in totals, some for
wearing patches, dangerous driving, possession of firearms. It felt like
we were finally striking back against the intimidation factor that's
driven Granny to lock her doors at night and avoid
Main Street. And how did we did nims feel about
it all?
Speaker 6 (03:57):
Well, at the moment I reckon they're coming down, you know,
stup Hey, because it's just a minus thing.
Speaker 2 (04:03):
You want to catch people doing other things, not just
being clothes. He said it was unfair. What about the
unfairness and the pain caused by some of these gang
members when they bash a member of the public or
kill one of their rivals. And the five months to
April they committed roughly six thousand crimes. They're harassment, sexual
(04:24):
assaults and twelve homic science. That's in the space of
about five months. So do I have sympathy for them
crying wolf outside the cop shop and mutipaker yesterday? No, none, zilch.
The public has had a guts fill, a guts full
of this and they want their streets back. And to
use the words of the current lot in Wellington, this
(04:45):
is war and in war there are usually casualties on
both sides. Ranbridge eleven after the five year on news
Talk said, but I am very much looking forward to
hearing what Lady Deborah Chambers has to say about that
COVID response yesterday. I'll very quickly run you through Winston
(05:05):
Peters So he has imposed new sanctions on behalf of
our government overnight. This is for the use of chemical
weapons by Russia on Ukraine. Illegal riot control agents are
being used on the front lines, according to a statement
he released last night. They've also hit out at the
Iranians for supplying missiles to Russia, which we all kind
(05:25):
of knew was happening. Also, they've had a crack at
North Korea for using shadow fleets. This is how they're
getting around all of these sanctions. And you're wondering, how
the hell is Russia still operating shadow fleets of ships
which are basically under the radar carrying the oil, carrying
the weapons, whatever dirty stuff they are trading between each
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other illegally and ignoring maritime traffic and the process. So
there you go. Winston's had a crack overnight twelve after
five news talksb.
Speaker 1 (06:02):
On your radio and online on iHeartRadio. Early edition with
Ryan Bridge and Smith City, New Zealand's furniture Beds and
a Plying store. On Youth Talk said be.
Speaker 2 (06:12):
Fourteen a half to five on news Talk said, be
interesting the posturing that's going on over Donald Trump before
he announces any of his actual policies. He's announced his
intention for somebody hasn't actually done anything yet. But this
is one, an interesting one that's come from some oil
big wigs and some bond investors in the United States.
They're saying to Trump, this is on Venezuela. Remember Venezuela
(06:34):
as well, not far from the United States and has
a lot of migrants who cross. Basically want to get
the hell out of Venezuela. They've lost about twenty percent
of their population. They have about two thousand of their
own residents a day who were fleeing, and most of
them heading towards the United States border. So what these
oil executives are saying is, rather than apply your usual
(06:58):
strategy of maximum pressure, which is what Trump does with
the Rahan et cetera, they're saying, do a deal. Do
a deal more oil. In other words, we will buy
more oil from you Venezuela, which would make Maduro very
happy for fewer migrants. So there you God, that's one
way to do diplomacy. Quarter past five. Whether he does
(07:20):
or not, I guess is another matter. Let's come back
to New Zealand now, public transport prices could be on
the rise and there's a furious war of letters going on.
NCTA has written to councils saying basically, increase your revenue,
share that from your users so that we can support
the record level of public transport spending by the government.
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Greater Wellington says it could see a seventy percent high
can fear prices as a result. The move has prompted
all public transport authorities aside from all can Transport, to
request a meeting with the Transport Minister, Simeon Brown. Darren Pontes,
the Greater Wellington Regional cherries with me this morning, Darren,
good morning. Really has he written back? Is he going
(08:02):
to have a meeting with you guys?
Speaker 1 (08:04):
No?
Speaker 7 (08:04):
But we've talked and look, I think we both agreed
that the meeting is required. This is quite a significant
issue for New Zealand, for public transport users, for any
transport users for that for that matter.
Speaker 2 (08:19):
Are you serious when you say, on average, if you're
paying ten dollars at the moment you'd be per day
for public transport in Wellington, you would be paying seventeen
from next year if this goes through.
Speaker 7 (08:30):
We're only using in New Zealand Transport authorities figures to
come to that conclusion, correct.
Speaker 2 (08:37):
And that would need to happen next year.
Speaker 7 (08:40):
Well, they are saying, they're saying, for example, in the
Wellington region that they want us to move from twenty
point five percent fairbox recovery to thirty five percent of
fairbox recovery by twenty five, twenty twenty twenty five, twenty
twenty six. So that's starts on the first of July
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next year.
Speaker 2 (09:01):
Right, So first of July next year, if you're paying
about ten bucks, you'll be having to pay seventeen unless
you can come to some kind of compromise correct.
Speaker 7 (09:10):
Correct, Yeah, and look I think we will. There are,
as you probably are aware of, ry and there are
many moving parts in public transport. The Minister is effectively saying,
or the New Zealand Transport are effectively saying, that the
amount that comes from the actual users has slipped over
the years. And that is true, and that is true
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across the country, and a large part of the reason
for that is the whole COVID period and the fact
that most public transport operators have been very focused on
getting people back onto buses and.
Speaker 2 (09:47):
So you don't want to hike fir. Yeah, you want
to keep the first as as possible. So what will
be why is why is Wellington so high? Because you
look at Auckland, they're only required thirty percent I think
next year thirty four, the year after, forty year after that.
Why is your one seem to be so high? Are
you paying less? Are your users paying less? As a proportion?
Speaker 7 (10:10):
Historically we have been able to recover more from the
from the fairbox. It's it's largely because we provide a
more intense public it's a more mature public transport network
RYAN that has more reliable services, more frequent services, et cetera,
(10:31):
et cetera, and as a consequence, we are able to
extract a little bit more from the from the user.
If you go out into provincial areas, even historically, you'll
find quite a lot of areas that are only at
about twenty percent, seventeen percent some of them.
Speaker 2 (10:48):
Right, can't you can't you just cut the services that
aren't that full.
Speaker 7 (10:53):
And we will and we will we will look at
those services. All public transport providers will look at those services.
But the reality is that public transport is growing quite significantly.
We are on our bus network in Wellington, we are
getting close to one hundred and ten percent of where
we were prior to COVID. Okay, so we only need
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more services, not less.
Speaker 2 (11:16):
Yeah, well yeah, but but I mean someone's got a paper,
I guess, Darren is the point. We'd love to hear
how that meeting goes with the minister. Do let us know,
Darren Ponter the Great at Wellington Regional Council. Share You're
on news Talk zemb coming up next Black Friday. Yes,
this week it's Black Friday. What's the best deal?
Speaker 1 (11:30):
We will tell you news and views you trust to
start your day. It's early edition with Ryan Bridge and
Smith City, New Zealand's Furniture Beds and a Flying Store.
Youth Talk ZIBB.
Speaker 2 (11:41):
Twenty two after five. Chris Wilkinson, First Retail Group managing
directions with us because why it's Black Friday to day
and people will be going out and getting some sales. Chris,
Good morning, Cura right, Well, what's the best deal you've
seen so far?
Speaker 8 (11:57):
Look, that's those perennial deals. It's the like of the
dysons that drop massively at this time of the year.
We've got some pretty good deals going on Might to ten. Know,
they've been doing some pretty big drops across the wall.
There's some good pricing out there this year.
Speaker 2 (12:14):
Yeah. I saw an umbrella yesterday for about seventy percent off,
and I well, I nearly clicked on it and then
I fell asleep. But you know, there are some good
deals to be had. How important an indicator is Black
Friday for what's going to happen at Christmas?
Speaker 8 (12:30):
You're pretty significant. Once upon a time it took a
long time for Christmas to boil in retail. These days,
Black Friday is that real kickoff. So getting a strong
Black Friday, to be honest, Brian, it's actually the week
ahead off and beyond Black Friday that makes the difference.
It's already been pretty strong out there for retail this
particularly last weekend.
Speaker 2 (12:52):
That's interesting because I did promote Black Friday as a
Black Friday week starting seven days ago, so I think
I've done my part. Chris, thank you very much that
this morning, Chris says some mighty ten deals might be
on the cards. That's Chris Wilkinson's first retail group managing
director about Black Friday coming up next. I'll tell you
what I think about that COVID inquiry. I honestly had
(13:13):
to restrain myself watching the news last night. Anyway, it
is twenty three after five. You're on news Talks AB
the Early.
Speaker 1 (13:21):
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AB News.
Speaker 2 (13:27):
Talks the b twenty five minutes after five. This COVID
Phase one report. The verdict is in and it's pretty
much guilty your honor fine to begin with, and then
they as the single podium of truth basically went too
far for too long, tell us something we don't know.
Trust in our institutions is shot. Media took a hammering,
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and rightly so in some cases. Labor supporters and hysterical
scientists and other groups went full militant. I never spoke
about the messages I got from some of them during
my interviews challenging Old Jasinda Adourn during that period, especially
those outside of Auckland. During the lockdown to end all lockdowns,
(14:09):
they were threats of beatings on my social media loads
of homophobia. I was killing people with my questions. There
was hate, there was vitriol. Now I'm not complaining about this,
this is part of my job. But it just shows
how wacko everyone got. Which is not to say the
anti mandate lot were angels either, But what we the
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public were fed was a meal from only one of
the two menus. Then there was the MiQ cruelty. You
will never get another opportunity to kiss a loved one
goodbye never. I watched Hipkins in his media stand up
yesterday with the usual half mere culpa lines we can
learn lessons from this in the future, and the benefit
(14:50):
of hindsight is a great thing. What's the problem with that, Well,
there were plenty of people with plenty of advice at
the time. He could have listened to, chose not to. Instead,
they labeled the protest as a river of filth. We
wrote off entire sectors of scientific community in the name
of social cohesion, like a pack of rabid dogs attacking
(15:12):
a limp lamb. That's what we were. We turned into that.
Had they listened to Auckland, to the planned bears, some
economists and experts in other fields, to Lady Deborah Chambers
who bravely put her head above the parapet on behalf
of the legal fraternity. Simon Bridges basically lost his job
over a Facebook post pointing out many of the problems
(15:33):
that turned out to be quite accurate. But now it
was all Susie Wiles and co. Crying because we didn't
go further and go harder, and where are we now?
Kids not going to school, productivity, jabbed in the face, crime,
out of controlled mental health and anxiety, particularly for kids,
also taking a head to the face, the weightless for
critical medical treatments, delayed, construction stopped, projects delayed, despite the
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Aussies being faster and looser on both counts. It was
the biggest overreach of power, both in real terms and
in some cases legally this country's potentially ever seen. And
only now do they say we might reconsider forcing a
barista to get a jab that they don't want. Don't
(16:18):
get me wrong, I got the jab twice, but that
was my choice to a large extent. And is this
all Labour's fault?
Speaker 9 (16:24):
No.
Speaker 2 (16:25):
The bigger culprits in my mind, media hype, social media pylons,
and unwavering support for the party pushing that lockdown agenda.
The problem was tunnel vision. It was arrogance, ignorance or both,
and now we're all paying a very hefty price tag
for it. There was just one thing missing from yesterday,
(16:48):
any response from the four horsemen of the apocalypse, Grant,
Jacinda Ashley and Adrian Orr. Where were they? Grant's on
eight hundred thousand dollars at Otaga University, all is doing victory,
glad for cutting rates he hiked too high and then
flooding the country with cash and adirn Remember she said
her single biggest driver in politics was to fix child poverty.
(17:10):
Now living in New York while a cost of living
crisis she helped engineer and then deny was existing hammers
some of our poorest and to use a word they
made famous during the COVID catastrophe, our most vulnerable.
Speaker 1 (17:28):
Ryan Bridge New for twenty twenty four on early edition
with Smith City, New Zealand's furniture Beds at a playing store.
News Talk Sydney.
Speaker 2 (17:43):
Scopy, Good Morning, New Zealand. Welcome to your Friday, twenty
four minutes away from six This legend and I can
remember Mum putting his cassette tape on in the car.
This absolute legend of rock and roll is going to
be headlined in Glastonbury. You might have heard about that yesterday.
(18:04):
What you may not have heard is how much is
going to cost the poor old bugger to perform on
the Legends stage.
Speaker 5 (18:12):
The time.
Speaker 2 (18:15):
Spread to legs and that.
Speaker 10 (18:20):
So he's eighty years old. God he's good, isn't he?
And he still looks good too. He's got a full
head of hair, which he says is real. You know,
old people when they get old, they still of go
half ghost like they go. But gray, he's still I mean,
whether it's a fake tan or not, he's still got
a great tan, grateful head to hear, and he can
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still sing anyway.
Speaker 2 (18:44):
He said. It's going to cost him a fortune to
play Glastonbury on the legendary stage. He said, to fly
his band over, get everything together. It's going to be
five hundred thousand New Zealand dollars. He says, I don't care.
I would do it. It is such a I would
be willing to shell out a million US one point
seven million New Zealand dollars for the privilege. So there
(19:06):
you go, get your tickets. I don't know when they
go on sale. Actually, but Glastonbury Rod Stewart got to
be there.
Speaker 1 (19:13):
Secret is that?
Speaker 2 (19:21):
Two?
Speaker 1 (19:24):
That's Bryan Bridge right.
Speaker 2 (19:26):
We're going to our reporters around the country twenty two
minutes away from six o'clock. Don't forget labor debris later
Deborah lady, goodness me, Lady Deborah Chambers with us, who
is a CAC and wrote a very critical pandemic column
in the Herald in twenty twenty two. We'll get her
reaction to the COVID report full six plus we're lied
to the UK with Vincent Macavenie. Right now, Callum Proctor
(19:48):
is Indneedin Cullum. A huge funding boost for Otago Uni
health research Yeah, right on.
Speaker 11 (19:54):
Sixteen researchers here out of Ottaga University have received in
total two point eight million dollars of government funding from
the Health Research Council. So that is a big boost.
It will help enable research into topics such as concussion,
eating disorders and homelessness. Dr Ema Wade is one who's benefited.
She's received a fellowship with almost six hundred thousand dollars
to study how genes contribute to pelvic organ prolapse. She
(20:17):
says it's a condition incredibly common in women, but it's
poorly understood. The Deputy Vice Chancellor, Richard Blakey says this
funding is a testament to the caliber of emerging scientists
at otarge.
Speaker 2 (20:27):
His name right now. How's there weather, Collen?
Speaker 11 (20:30):
A morning cloud then find for us today southwesterlies and seventeen.
Speaker 2 (20:34):
Thank you and Claire is in christ It's clear the
finishing touches going on for a milestone Christmas in the Park.
Speaker 12 (20:41):
Yes, it is a milestone Christmas in the Park here
tomorrow at Hagley Ryan it will be thirty years since
Christmas in the Park started. We've got local performance who
will shine at the free celebration Hip Hop Royalty. Apparently
Chaffour will take the stage along with ki We singers
Shi and Georgia Lines. Creative director of the show Nixon
(21:02):
Daisy says there was a record number of applications for
this year. He says the christ Church talent on offer
is incredible, with the show featuring eight local singers and
at least forty dancers. The Auckland event is in a
couple of weeks time, on December fourteenth.
Speaker 2 (21:18):
O nice one, Claire, how's your weather today?
Speaker 12 (21:20):
Clardie with a few spots of early rain, then fine
breaks for a time This afternoon southerly's easing and a
high of seventeen.
Speaker 2 (21:27):
Brilliant maxism well max. The on boodsman is investigating Kiwi Rail.
Speaker 7 (21:31):
What for?
Speaker 13 (21:32):
Yeah, this is over KiwiRail refusing to disclose the cost
of its advice from global consultancy firm McKinsey and Company.
We believe this information should be made public. This advice
was commissioned to improve performance for its rail freight faery.
Business Finance Minister Nicola Willis has a better idea of
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the number and told us it immediately concerned her, particularly
when KiwiRail has such highly paid executives and his commission
external people to tell it how to run its business.
Willis and The Herald have made efforts to publicly release
the spend Kiwi Rail, though saying it would breach their
contract with McKinsey. So we've got the ombudsman involved. No comment,
(22:14):
No further comment by Kiwi Rail. Victoria University law professor
Dean Knight has weighed in. He believes there's significant public
interest in knowing the public money spent by a state
owned enterprise on consultants, especially when the Minister is concerned
they're outsourcing a business as usual work.
Speaker 2 (22:29):
All right, how's your with a mix?
Speaker 13 (22:32):
Mostly cloudy so Easterly's a high of sixteen?
Speaker 2 (22:34):
Brilliant? Thank you? Were you ever at Rod Stewart Finn
You struck me as someone who would be I fit
the bill.
Speaker 13 (22:40):
I can't say I am, and I think I'm going
to disappoint you with that answer.
Speaker 2 (22:45):
It's your choice. It's a free world. You can do
what you like. DoD, did you go to maw and
Nui or what was it called Miao Knwei? Was that
last night?
Speaker 1 (22:54):
No?
Speaker 2 (22:54):
No, I haven't been.
Speaker 13 (22:55):
I've been to miaw a few times, the original bar,
but this new venue looks pretty d good does Yeah?
Speaker 2 (23:01):
I saw the pictures. Looks great.
Speaker 13 (23:03):
As I inserted into my script yesterday. Going to some
of those bars like san fran and Meow sorry mew,
it gets a bit claustrophobic and sweaty, too many people around.
I like a bit of space. Meo knew he seems
to have that, all.
Speaker 2 (23:15):
Right, good to know. Let's go to Neva. Hey, Neva.
Speaker 14 (23:18):
That does not surprise me that you know mix doesn't
like sweetie go and going into bars with heaps of
people around him.
Speaker 10 (23:23):
Don't you reckon?
Speaker 2 (23:24):
I think he's sort of struck me as someone who
might be a bit of a rager. Oh, I don't know. Anyway,
he'll be somewhere like on his own with headphones on,
just shaking in the corner, the corner, no rods to it. Hey,
what's going on with the theories?
Speaker 9 (23:39):
Now?
Speaker 2 (23:40):
It's theories that you go on the sea, not theories
that fly.
Speaker 14 (23:43):
Get that's Friday, isn't it fun? And you're absolutely quite right.
So this is good news for Auckland because the Auckland
Theories in now back to full schedule, just in time
for summer. So the Auckland Transport Services, now you'll remember
this back in October last year and there was gale back.
This was because of an industry wide crew shortage and
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they weren't expected to be reinstated until mid next year.
But Rachel Kara, now she's the eighty Public Transport Operations
Group manager. She says, their operator which is full of
three sixty. They've been able to quickly get in their
upskill the existing crew, train new people and because of
all of this, the Fairy timetable is now up and running.
(24:24):
They reckon. This is five months ahead of schedule. But
you know it's always a problem around summer, do you remember,
you know, there's always cues going.
Speaker 5 (24:30):
To why he cared?
Speaker 14 (24:30):
Yeah, long weekend, so they've already got to get on
top of that.
Speaker 2 (24:33):
But they've had a schedule. Did you never hear those words? Yeah,
congratulations to whoever did that. A weather today.
Speaker 14 (24:40):
It's going to be really really lovely actually chance of
a light morning shower, but we've got afternoon sunny's spells,
you know, just getting really really warm. Twenty three is
the high.
Speaker 2 (24:47):
Brilliant neither, thank you. That is great news for today
for your Friday morning. If you're in all Clint Mients
in maca any a UK correspondent, Next, how do you
just lose one hundred and sixty six thousand people? He'll
answer that question.
Speaker 1 (25:01):
International correspondence with ends and eye insurance, Peace of mind
for New Zealand business.
Speaker 2 (25:08):
It is fourteen minutes away from six Winston Peters has
just put a press release out. He's in Germany. He
is the first foreign minister to visit Berlin since twenty sixteen. Interestingly, anyway,
they had a range of conversations about a bunch of stuff,
including Ukraine and overnight, as we reported earlier this morning,
Winston Peters and our government have introduced new sanctions on
(25:30):
Russia over its war in Ukraine, these of chemical weapons.
Right now, we're going to Vincent mcaviny, UK Europe correspondent,
and we will start with that. Actually, Ukraine has suffered
a huge drone strike with Russia threatening to use new
types of missiles on Kiev. The Vincent, Yeah, that's right.
Speaker 6 (25:49):
Overnight Ukraine suffered a huge attack once again on its
power gred Roy In winter here in Europe, it's very
cold in Ukraine and it's left around a million in
people without power after they struck twelve targets. This is
a pattern they've been following over recent months to really
try and make this winter as difficult and horrible as possible.
(26:11):
And that warning as well that they might use that
new missile. Now, last week when I spoke to you,
Ukraine had suggested it was potentially an ICBM without a
nuclear warhead on it, but we now know it was
some kind of new type of misstile that Russia's developed
that Western governments are scrambling to try to understand, and
they have threatened more attacks, particularly in what they're saying
(26:32):
is the sort of power centres, decision making centers, so
that would be central key trying to possibly destroy the government.
Speaker 2 (26:40):
And very quickly the knit migration revised figures from twenty
twenty three. How do you lose one hundred and sixty
six thousand people?
Speaker 6 (26:47):
Well quiet, and just to frame this, when the Conservatives
came into governments in twenty ten, they promised that they'd
get migration underneath six figures, so net migration be less
than one hundred thousand. When they left their final full
it turns out that they had claimed in the twelve
months to June twenty twenty three only net migration was
only and I say only seven hundred and forty thousand.
(27:09):
It was in the fact nine hundred and six thousand.
That is a huge revision, and there are questions about
why that revision is so drastic. We have found out
the latest in the twelve months to June this year
it's fallen back to seven hundred and twenty eight thousand.
But we know from what's happening in governments around the world,
the US and Europe as well. If labor can't bring
(27:30):
that number down, then they'll likely be punished at the
election in five years time.
Speaker 2 (27:34):
Thanks so much for it that it's been to mecavini
Are UK Europe correspondent News Talk CID be just gone
Living away from six. Ryan Bridge shows phase that the
Royal Commission inquiry into the COVID response has been released,
and while it says many things were done correctly, it's
highly critical of the government response at the time, particularly
around mandates and the length of lockdowns. Lady Debrah Chambers
(27:56):
case he wrote an opinion piece at the time and
I spoke to her then. This is the first line
from it. The emergency legislation in response to COVID nineteen
giving our government the right to control our freedom of
movement is no longer demonstrably justified in removing the fundamental
rights to which New Zealanders are entitled. And Lady devis
(28:18):
with me this morning. Good morning, Good morning Ryan, great
to speak to you again. How did you feel or
what did you think reading that or having a look
at that report yesterday?
Speaker 9 (28:30):
Well, I thought there was some good news there in
that Tony Professor Tony Blakeley has grappled with and the
hurt caused to a lot of New Zealanders and the
harm caused to a lot of New Zealanders by our
government's response to COVID. And he also obviously has some
(28:55):
pretty good ideas about how to cope next time, but
he does grapple with this issue of excessive use of lockdowns.
And it's also, as we know, very critical of the mandates,
particularly towards the end period of the epidemic.
Speaker 2 (29:11):
Do we need some kind of accountability for this?
Speaker 9 (29:15):
Well, personally, I think that an apology is due. I mean,
I was pro vaccination, so I wasn't affected by the mandates.
But I know from my interaction and from this report
that those people affected by the mandates who lost their jobs,
(29:36):
for example, are very angry still because you see them
and you hear them in the community and political things
and so on, that they disrupt political meetings. They are
feeling so angry by that and that social lack of cohesion.
They're not forgetting and they're quite a big group and
(30:00):
they feel very hurt. And also I also think there's been,
as the Commission says, this reduction throughout New Zealand and
confidence and government. So I must say I'm pointing the
finger at Chris Hipkins. Why because he was Minister in
(30:20):
charge of COVID nineteen response, Education, Police, Health and Deputy
Prime Minister. And he's the only one of the three
of them who are still there in Parliament. And you
know his response is so far quote it's a really
helpful report. Quote, I accept the Royal Commissions finding it.
There were things that could have been done differently. Well,
(30:44):
it's the usual weasel words, isn't it from politicians. I mean,
he would be better and it would be it would
make a difference to people if he said we made
for real mistakes and I'm sorry we did that. I'm
sorry we did that around these as use of mandates,
lockdowns and I think am i q as well?
Speaker 2 (31:04):
What about just an apology basically from Hopkins? Yeah, what
about the And we've only got about a minute left here,
lady Debriah, But what about the you wrote this column.
I'm sure you would have got lots of kick back
from lots of corners. Just that social fragmentation. When one
person put their head above the parapet to say something
(31:27):
that God forbid, might contradict the prevailing narrative.
Speaker 15 (31:31):
You're shot down, Yes, yes, that was definitely the case
that no other view was accepted, and it was, you know,
very it was like a fundamentalist religion was it was
far too rigid and far too lacking and taking into account.
Speaker 9 (31:50):
Other people's perspectives as a sorry state.
Speaker 2 (31:53):
That we were in, Lady debri Chambers, I appreciate your time.
Thank you very much for being with me.
Speaker 8 (31:58):
My pleasure.
Speaker 2 (32:00):
A talk seven away from six News Talks HEB, the.
Speaker 1 (32:03):
News you need this morning and the in depth analysis
early edition with Ryan Bridge and Fifth City, New Zealand's
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Speaker 2 (32:12):
News Talk said be five away from six on News
Talks B. We've just had Lady Deborah Chambers on KC
who said that Hepkins needs to stand up in front
of the public, stop pussy footing around my words and
apologize for what happened during COVID. You're on News Talks
HEB and Mike Hosking is up next. Good morning, Make morning.
Speaker 16 (32:33):
Fortunately, we've got jacindaduon who arrives back in the country
this morning to come into the studio and answer all
the questions.
Speaker 2 (32:38):
You don't undert honestly, shock don't. We don't either. That's right.
Speaker 16 (32:44):
Where where's where's she?
Speaker 2 (32:46):
Oh, that's right, she's not here in New York. Get
three hundred capers speaking.
Speaker 16 (32:51):
Apparently saying no, she's not available to talk to anyone
about the decision she made.
Speaker 2 (32:54):
How ironic in some ways you think, well, if she
did come back, could she actually walk down the street.
I thought that quite long, you know what I mean.
Speaker 16 (33:03):
I'm waiting for her book, which apparently was due out
by Christmas, which is clearly never coming. But how do
you how does a woman like her? And that seems
I almost feel sorry for it. How do you come
back to the country ever, Well, that's right, go sit
and wit calls without the book, security guards around your saying,
oh you're wanting me to sign your book, or where
else would you like me to put the book? But
(33:23):
we know where her book sales will do best, and
that's overseas. Yeah, I think that's part of it. Anyway,
we'll be doing a bit of that today. And I
liked your comments earlier on about the police yesterday, that
that local superintendent he's the goods.
Speaker 7 (33:34):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (33:35):
And also I like the fact that they spoke, they
had someone there to speak in Maldi to the coury
who was upset. That's progressive policing. See Tomorrow No Monday for.
Speaker 1 (33:47):
More from Early Edition with Ryan Bridge. Listen live to
News Talks it Be from five am weekdays, or follow
the podcast on iHeartRadio
The issues, the interviews and the inside. Ryan Bridge new
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New Zealand's furniture Vans and a play at store.
Speaker 2 (00:14):
News Talks, it'd be good, A good morning. It's six
after five year on News Talks, it'd be I can
confirm today's Black Friday for anyone who's wanting a sale
or wanting a bargain, although it has technically been running
all week. Lady Deborah Chambers, you'll remember the opinion piece
she wrote during COVID, which was highly controversial but right
(00:35):
on the money. She reacts to the first phase of
the COVID inquiry. Just before six this morning, we're going
to talk to the Greater Wellington Regional Council and before
you go, it's about a potential seventy percent increase in
public transport prices. Are ay fairmongering. Vincent McAvennie is in
the UK and Putin is gearing up for a bigger,
(00:58):
more expanded or on Ukraine will have details the agenda.
It is right at the twenty ninth of November. Welcome
to the program. It's past. Australia's the first country to
ban under sixteen year olds from sosh Med that comes
into falls later next year.
Speaker 3 (01:17):
We know there is wide press spread concern and evidence
about the severe mental health impact of social media on children.
We've seen very disturbing global trends and youth mental health
since the rise of social media.
Speaker 2 (01:31):
Do you know how I know this is not going
to work? Social media companies face fines of up to
fifty four million dollars for non compliance. Drop in the ocean,
Russian drone and missile strikes have hit twelve targets according
to Ukraine's Air Force, mostly energy and fuel facilities. Around
one million people are without power right now as a
result of these latest strikes. Meanwhile, Putin has said Russia
(01:54):
has begun manufacturing new nuclear capable weapons and is selecting
targets for them in Ukraine, including in Kiev's decision making centers.
Winston Peters has put out of release over the Night'll
get to that shortly. Surprise, surprise. Israel and hissbil I
have accused each other of breaking the ceasefire. This is
(02:15):
twenty four hours in.
Speaker 4 (02:17):
Israel says what they're calling suspects had made their way
to southern Lebanon. Israeli tanks have reportedly hit six areas
along the border. A Hasbela official is now accusing Israel
of attacking people going back to their villages.
Speaker 2 (02:33):
UK can't count. They told us they had net migration
positive net migration numbers for June twenty twenty three. They
said at the time that it was about seven hundred
and forty odd. They've added one hundred and sixty six
thousand people that they didn't count. That number has since
come down.
Speaker 5 (02:51):
The Independent Office of National Statistics to conducted vital work
on the state of immigration. The previous government were running
an open borders experiment.
Speaker 1 (03:05):
The first word on the News of the Day early
edition with Ryan Bridge and Smith City, New Zealand's furniture
beds and a playing store news talks.
Speaker 2 (03:14):
They'd be nine after five news talks. They'd be great
to have your company on a Friday morning. They said
that Mark Mitchell's war on gangs wouldn't work. Remember that
it'd be ineffective and people wouldn't feel any safer. What
I saw on the news yesterday at Matzipiphi and the
Bay of Plenty proved them all wrong. A big line
of big burly cops longer than your arms, stopping the
(03:37):
gangs in their tracks. Fourteen arrests in totals, some for
wearing patches, dangerous driving, possession of firearms. It felt like
we were finally striking back against the intimidation factor that's
driven Granny to lock her doors at night and avoid
Main Street. And how did we did nims feel about
it all?
Speaker 6 (03:57):
Well, at the moment I reckon they're coming down, you know,
stup Hey, because it's just a minus thing.
Speaker 2 (04:03):
You want to catch people doing other things, not just
being clothes. He said it was unfair. What about the
unfairness and the pain caused by some of these gang
members when they bash a member of the public or
kill one of their rivals. And the five months to
April they committed roughly six thousand crimes. They're harassment, sexual
(04:24):
assaults and twelve homic science. That's in the space of
about five months. So do I have sympathy for them
crying wolf outside the cop shop and mutipaker yesterday? No, none, zilch.
The public has had a guts fill, a guts full
of this and they want their streets back. And to
use the words of the current lot in Wellington, this
(04:45):
is war and in war there are usually casualties on
both sides. Ranbridge eleven after the five year on news
Talk said, but I am very much looking forward to
hearing what Lady Deborah Chambers has to say about that
COVID response yesterday. I'll very quickly run you through Winston
(05:05):
Peters So he has imposed new sanctions on behalf of
our government overnight. This is for the use of chemical
weapons by Russia on Ukraine. Illegal riot control agents are
being used on the front lines, according to a statement
he released last night. They've also hit out at the
Iranians for supplying missiles to Russia, which we all kind
(05:25):
of knew was happening. Also, they've had a crack at
North Korea for using shadow fleets. This is how they're
getting around all of these sanctions. And you're wondering, how
the hell is Russia still operating shadow fleets of ships
which are basically under the radar carrying the oil, carrying
the weapons, whatever dirty stuff they are trading between each
(05:46):
other illegally and ignoring maritime traffic and the process. So
there you go. Winston's had a crack overnight twelve after
five news talksb.
Speaker 1 (06:02):
On your radio and online on iHeartRadio. Early edition with
Ryan Bridge and Smith City, New Zealand's furniture Beds and
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Speaker 2 (06:12):
Fourteen a half to five on news Talk said, be
interesting the posturing that's going on over Donald Trump before
he announces any of his actual policies. He's announced his
intention for somebody hasn't actually done anything yet. But this
is one, an interesting one that's come from some oil
big wigs and some bond investors in the United States.
They're saying to Trump, this is on Venezuela. Remember Venezuela
(06:34):
as well, not far from the United States and has
a lot of migrants who cross. Basically want to get
the hell out of Venezuela. They've lost about twenty percent
of their population. They have about two thousand of their
own residents a day who were fleeing, and most of
them heading towards the United States border. So what these
oil executives are saying is, rather than apply your usual
(06:58):
strategy of maximum pressure, which is what Trump does with
the Rahan et cetera, they're saying, do a deal. Do
a deal more oil. In other words, we will buy
more oil from you Venezuela, which would make Maduro very
happy for fewer migrants. So there you God, that's one
way to do diplomacy. Quarter past five. Whether he does
(07:20):
or not, I guess is another matter. Let's come back
to New Zealand now, public transport prices could be on
the rise and there's a furious war of letters going on.
NCTA has written to councils saying basically, increase your revenue,
share that from your users so that we can support
the record level of public transport spending by the government.
(07:41):
Greater Wellington says it could see a seventy percent high
can fear prices as a result. The move has prompted
all public transport authorities aside from all can Transport, to
request a meeting with the Transport Minister, Simeon Brown. Darren Pontes,
the Greater Wellington Regional cherries with me this morning, Darren,
good morning. Really has he written back? Is he going
(08:02):
to have a meeting with you guys?
Speaker 1 (08:04):
No?
Speaker 7 (08:04):
But we've talked and look, I think we both agreed
that the meeting is required. This is quite a significant
issue for New Zealand, for public transport users, for any
transport users for that for that matter.
Speaker 2 (08:19):
Are you serious when you say, on average, if you're
paying ten dollars at the moment you'd be per day
for public transport in Wellington, you would be paying seventeen
from next year if this goes through.
Speaker 7 (08:30):
We're only using in New Zealand Transport authorities figures to
come to that conclusion, correct.
Speaker 2 (08:37):
And that would need to happen next year.
Speaker 7 (08:40):
Well, they are saying, they're saying, for example, in the
Wellington region that they want us to move from twenty
point five percent fairbox recovery to thirty five percent of
fairbox recovery by twenty five, twenty twenty twenty five, twenty
twenty six. So that's starts on the first of July
(09:01):
next year.
Speaker 2 (09:01):
Right, So first of July next year, if you're paying
about ten bucks, you'll be having to pay seventeen unless
you can come to some kind of compromise correct.
Speaker 7 (09:10):
Correct, Yeah, and look I think we will. There are,
as you probably are aware of, ry and there are
many moving parts in public transport. The Minister is effectively saying,
or the New Zealand Transport are effectively saying, that the
amount that comes from the actual users has slipped over
the years. And that is true, and that is true
(09:32):
across the country, and a large part of the reason
for that is the whole COVID period and the fact
that most public transport operators have been very focused on
getting people back onto buses and.
Speaker 2 (09:47):
So you don't want to hike fir. Yeah, you want
to keep the first as as possible. So what will
be why is why is Wellington so high? Because you
look at Auckland, they're only required thirty percent I think
next year thirty four, the year after, forty year after that.
Why is your one seem to be so high? Are
you paying less? Are your users paying less? As a proportion?
Speaker 7 (10:10):
Historically we have been able to recover more from the
from the fairbox. It's it's largely because we provide a
more intense public it's a more mature public transport network
RYAN that has more reliable services, more frequent services, et cetera,
(10:31):
et cetera, and as a consequence, we are able to
extract a little bit more from the from the user.
If you go out into provincial areas, even historically, you'll
find quite a lot of areas that are only at
about twenty percent, seventeen percent some of them.
Speaker 2 (10:48):
Right, can't you can't you just cut the services that
aren't that full.
Speaker 7 (10:53):
And we will and we will we will look at
those services. All public transport providers will look at those services.
But the reality is that public transport is growing quite significantly.
We are on our bus network in Wellington, we are
getting close to one hundred and ten percent of where
we were prior to COVID. Okay, so we only need
(11:14):
more services, not less.
Speaker 2 (11:16):
Yeah, well yeah, but but I mean someone's got a paper,
I guess, Darren is the point. We'd love to hear
how that meeting goes with the minister. Do let us know,
Darren Ponter the Great at Wellington Regional Council. Share You're
on news Talk zemb coming up next Black Friday. Yes,
this week it's Black Friday. What's the best deal?
Speaker 1 (11:30):
We will tell you news and views you trust to
start your day. It's early edition with Ryan Bridge and
Smith City, New Zealand's Furniture Beds and a Flying Store.
Youth Talk ZIBB.
Speaker 2 (11:41):
Twenty two after five. Chris Wilkinson, First Retail Group managing
directions with us because why it's Black Friday to day
and people will be going out and getting some sales. Chris,
Good morning, Cura right, Well, what's the best deal you've
seen so far?
Speaker 8 (11:57):
Look, that's those perennial deals. It's the like of the
dysons that drop massively at this time of the year.
We've got some pretty good deals going on Might to ten. Know,
they've been doing some pretty big drops across the wall.
There's some good pricing out there this year.
Speaker 2 (12:14):
Yeah. I saw an umbrella yesterday for about seventy percent off,
and I well, I nearly clicked on it and then
I fell asleep. But you know, there are some good
deals to be had. How important an indicator is Black
Friday for what's going to happen at Christmas?
Speaker 8 (12:30):
You're pretty significant. Once upon a time it took a
long time for Christmas to boil in retail. These days,
Black Friday is that real kickoff. So getting a strong
Black Friday, to be honest, Brian, it's actually the week
ahead off and beyond Black Friday that makes the difference.
It's already been pretty strong out there for retail this
particularly last weekend.
Speaker 2 (12:52):
That's interesting because I did promote Black Friday as a
Black Friday week starting seven days ago, so I think
I've done my part. Chris, thank you very much that
this morning, Chris says some mighty ten deals might be
on the cards. That's Chris Wilkinson's first retail group managing
director about Black Friday coming up next. I'll tell you
what I think about that COVID inquiry. I honestly had
(13:13):
to restrain myself watching the news last night. Anyway, it
is twenty three after five. You're on news Talks AB
the Early.
Speaker 1 (13:21):
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Speaker 2 (13:27):
Talks the b twenty five minutes after five. This COVID
Phase one report. The verdict is in and it's pretty
much guilty your honor fine to begin with, and then
they as the single podium of truth basically went too
far for too long, tell us something we don't know.
Trust in our institutions is shot. Media took a hammering,
(13:49):
and rightly so in some cases. Labor supporters and hysterical
scientists and other groups went full militant. I never spoke
about the messages I got from some of them during
my interviews challenging Old Jasinda Adourn during that period, especially
those outside of Auckland. During the lockdown to end all lockdowns,
(14:09):
they were threats of beatings on my social media loads
of homophobia. I was killing people with my questions. There
was hate, there was vitriol. Now I'm not complaining about this,
this is part of my job. But it just shows
how wacko everyone got. Which is not to say the
anti mandate lot were angels either, But what we the
(14:30):
public were fed was a meal from only one of
the two menus. Then there was the MiQ cruelty. You
will never get another opportunity to kiss a loved one
goodbye never. I watched Hipkins in his media stand up
yesterday with the usual half mere culpa lines we can
learn lessons from this in the future, and the benefit
(14:50):
of hindsight is a great thing. What's the problem with that, Well,
there were plenty of people with plenty of advice at
the time. He could have listened to, chose not to. Instead,
they labeled the protest as a river of filth. We
wrote off entire sectors of scientific community in the name
of social cohesion, like a pack of rabid dogs attacking
(15:12):
a limp lamb. That's what we were. We turned into that.
Had they listened to Auckland, to the planned bears, some
economists and experts in other fields, to Lady Deborah Chambers
who bravely put her head above the parapet on behalf
of the legal fraternity. Simon Bridges basically lost his job
over a Facebook post pointing out many of the problems
(15:33):
that turned out to be quite accurate. But now it
was all Susie Wiles and co. Crying because we didn't
go further and go harder, and where are we now?
Kids not going to school, productivity, jabbed in the face, crime,
out of controlled mental health and anxiety, particularly for kids,
also taking a head to the face, the weightless for
critical medical treatments, delayed, construction stopped, projects delayed, despite the
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Aussies being faster and looser on both counts. It was
the biggest overreach of power, both in real terms and
in some cases legally this country's potentially ever seen. And
only now do they say we might reconsider forcing a
barista to get a jab that they don't want. Don't
(16:18):
get me wrong, I got the jab twice, but that
was my choice to a large extent. And is this
all Labour's fault?
Speaker 9 (16:24):
No.
Speaker 2 (16:25):
The bigger culprits in my mind, media hype, social media pylons,
and unwavering support for the party pushing that lockdown agenda.
The problem was tunnel vision. It was arrogance, ignorance or both,
and now we're all paying a very hefty price tag
for it. There was just one thing missing from yesterday,
(16:48):
any response from the four horsemen of the apocalypse, Grant,
Jacinda Ashley and Adrian Orr. Where were they? Grant's on
eight hundred thousand dollars at Otaga University, all is doing victory,
glad for cutting rates he hiked too high and then
flooding the country with cash and adirn Remember she said
her single biggest driver in politics was to fix child poverty.
(17:10):
Now living in New York while a cost of living
crisis she helped engineer and then deny was existing hammers
some of our poorest and to use a word they
made famous during the COVID catastrophe, our most vulnerable.
Speaker 1 (17:28):
Ryan Bridge New for twenty twenty four on early edition
with Smith City, New Zealand's furniture Beds at a playing store.
News Talk Sydney.
Speaker 2 (17:43):
Scopy, Good Morning, New Zealand. Welcome to your Friday, twenty
four minutes away from six This legend and I can
remember Mum putting his cassette tape on in the car.
This absolute legend of rock and roll is going to
be headlined in Glastonbury. You might have heard about that yesterday.
(18:04):
What you may not have heard is how much is
going to cost the poor old bugger to perform on
the Legends stage.
Speaker 5 (18:12):
The time.
Speaker 2 (18:15):
Spread to legs and that.
Speaker 10 (18:20):
So he's eighty years old. God he's good, isn't he?
And he still looks good too. He's got a full
head of hair, which he says is real. You know,
old people when they get old, they still of go
half ghost like they go. But gray, he's still I mean,
whether it's a fake tan or not, he's still got
a great tan, grateful head to hear, and he can
(18:42):
still sing anyway.
Speaker 2 (18:44):
He said. It's going to cost him a fortune to
play Glastonbury on the legendary stage. He said, to fly
his band over, get everything together. It's going to be
five hundred thousand New Zealand dollars. He says, I don't care.
I would do it. It is such a I would
be willing to shell out a million US one point
seven million New Zealand dollars for the privilege. So there
(19:06):
you go, get your tickets. I don't know when they
go on sale. Actually, but Glastonbury Rod Stewart got to
be there.
Speaker 1 (19:13):
Secret is that?
Speaker 2 (19:21):
Two?
Speaker 1 (19:24):
That's Bryan Bridge right.
Speaker 2 (19:26):
We're going to our reporters around the country twenty two
minutes away from six o'clock. Don't forget labor debris later
Deborah lady, goodness me, Lady Deborah Chambers with us, who
is a CAC and wrote a very critical pandemic column
in the Herald in twenty twenty two. We'll get her
reaction to the COVID report full six plus we're lied
to the UK with Vincent Macavenie. Right now, Callum Proctor
(19:48):
is Indneedin Cullum. A huge funding boost for Otago Uni
health research Yeah, right on.
Speaker 11 (19:54):
Sixteen researchers here out of Ottaga University have received in
total two point eight million dollars of government funding from
the Health Research Council. So that is a big boost.
It will help enable research into topics such as concussion,
eating disorders and homelessness. Dr Ema Wade is one who's benefited.
She's received a fellowship with almost six hundred thousand dollars
to study how genes contribute to pelvic organ prolapse. She
(20:17):
says it's a condition incredibly common in women, but it's
poorly understood. The Deputy Vice Chancellor, Richard Blakey says this
funding is a testament to the caliber of emerging scientists
at otarge.
Speaker 2 (20:27):
His name right now. How's there weather, Collen?
Speaker 11 (20:30):
A morning cloud then find for us today southwesterlies and seventeen.
Speaker 2 (20:34):
Thank you and Claire is in christ It's clear the
finishing touches going on for a milestone Christmas in the Park.
Speaker 12 (20:41):
Yes, it is a milestone Christmas in the Park here
tomorrow at Hagley Ryan it will be thirty years since
Christmas in the Park started. We've got local performance who
will shine at the free celebration Hip Hop Royalty. Apparently
Chaffour will take the stage along with ki We singers
Shi and Georgia Lines. Creative director of the show Nixon
(21:02):
Daisy says there was a record number of applications for
this year. He says the christ Church talent on offer
is incredible, with the show featuring eight local singers and
at least forty dancers. The Auckland event is in a
couple of weeks time, on December fourteenth.
Speaker 2 (21:18):
O nice one, Claire, how's your weather today?
Speaker 12 (21:20):
Clardie with a few spots of early rain, then fine
breaks for a time This afternoon southerly's easing and a
high of seventeen.
Speaker 2 (21:27):
Brilliant maxism well max. The on boodsman is investigating Kiwi Rail.
Speaker 7 (21:31):
What for?
Speaker 13 (21:32):
Yeah, this is over KiwiRail refusing to disclose the cost
of its advice from global consultancy firm McKinsey and Company.
We believe this information should be made public. This advice
was commissioned to improve performance for its rail freight faery.
Business Finance Minister Nicola Willis has a better idea of
(21:52):
the number and told us it immediately concerned her, particularly
when KiwiRail has such highly paid executives and his commission
external people to tell it how to run its business.
Willis and The Herald have made efforts to publicly release
the spend Kiwi Rail, though saying it would breach their
contract with McKinsey. So we've got the ombudsman involved. No comment,
(22:14):
No further comment by Kiwi Rail. Victoria University law professor
Dean Knight has weighed in. He believes there's significant public
interest in knowing the public money spent by a state
owned enterprise on consultants, especially when the Minister is concerned
they're outsourcing a business as usual work.
Speaker 2 (22:29):
All right, how's your with a mix?
Speaker 13 (22:32):
Mostly cloudy so Easterly's a high of sixteen?
Speaker 2 (22:34):
Brilliant? Thank you? Were you ever at Rod Stewart Finn
You struck me as someone who would be I fit
the bill.
Speaker 13 (22:40):
I can't say I am, and I think I'm going
to disappoint you with that answer.
Speaker 2 (22:45):
It's your choice. It's a free world. You can do
what you like. DoD, did you go to maw and
Nui or what was it called Miao Knwei? Was that
last night?
Speaker 1 (22:54):
No?
Speaker 2 (22:54):
No, I haven't been.
Speaker 13 (22:55):
I've been to miaw a few times, the original bar,
but this new venue looks pretty d good does Yeah?
Speaker 2 (23:01):
I saw the pictures. Looks great.
Speaker 13 (23:03):
As I inserted into my script yesterday. Going to some
of those bars like san fran and Meow sorry mew,
it gets a bit claustrophobic and sweaty, too many people around.
I like a bit of space. Meo knew he seems
to have that, all.
Speaker 2 (23:15):
Right, good to know. Let's go to Neva. Hey, Neva.
Speaker 14 (23:18):
That does not surprise me that you know mix doesn't
like sweetie go and going into bars with heaps of
people around him.
Speaker 10 (23:23):
Don't you reckon?
Speaker 2 (23:24):
I think he's sort of struck me as someone who
might be a bit of a rager. Oh, I don't know. Anyway,
he'll be somewhere like on his own with headphones on,
just shaking in the corner, the corner, no rods to it. Hey,
what's going on with the theories?
Speaker 9 (23:39):
Now?
Speaker 2 (23:40):
It's theories that you go on the sea, not theories
that fly.
Speaker 14 (23:43):
Get that's Friday, isn't it fun? And you're absolutely quite right.
So this is good news for Auckland because the Auckland
Theories in now back to full schedule, just in time
for summer. So the Auckland Transport Services, now you'll remember
this back in October last year and there was gale back.
This was because of an industry wide crew shortage and
(24:03):
they weren't expected to be reinstated until mid next year.
But Rachel Kara, now she's the eighty Public Transport Operations
Group manager. She says, their operator which is full of
three sixty. They've been able to quickly get in their
upskill the existing crew, train new people and because of
all of this, the Fairy timetable is now up and running.
(24:24):
They reckon. This is five months ahead of schedule. But
you know it's always a problem around summer, do you remember,
you know, there's always cues going.
Speaker 5 (24:30):
To why he cared?
Speaker 14 (24:30):
Yeah, long weekend, so they've already got to get on
top of that.
Speaker 2 (24:33):
But they've had a schedule. Did you never hear those words? Yeah,
congratulations to whoever did that. A weather today.
Speaker 14 (24:40):
It's going to be really really lovely actually chance of
a light morning shower, but we've got afternoon sunny's spells,
you know, just getting really really warm. Twenty three is
the high.
Speaker 2 (24:47):
Brilliant neither, thank you. That is great news for today
for your Friday morning. If you're in all Clint Mients
in maca any a UK correspondent, Next, how do you
just lose one hundred and sixty six thousand people? He'll
answer that question.
Speaker 1 (25:01):
International correspondence with ends and eye insurance, Peace of mind
for New Zealand business.
Speaker 2 (25:08):
It is fourteen minutes away from six Winston Peters has
just put a press release out. He's in Germany. He
is the first foreign minister to visit Berlin since twenty sixteen. Interestingly, anyway,
they had a range of conversations about a bunch of stuff,
including Ukraine and overnight, as we reported earlier this morning,
Winston Peters and our government have introduced new sanctions on
(25:30):
Russia over its war in Ukraine, these of chemical weapons.
Right now, we're going to Vincent mcaviny, UK Europe correspondent,
and we will start with that. Actually, Ukraine has suffered
a huge drone strike with Russia threatening to use new
types of missiles on Kiev. The Vincent, Yeah, that's right.
Speaker 6 (25:49):
Overnight Ukraine suffered a huge attack once again on its
power gred Roy In winter here in Europe, it's very
cold in Ukraine and it's left around a million in
people without power after they struck twelve targets. This is
a pattern they've been following over recent months to really
try and make this winter as difficult and horrible as possible.
(26:11):
And that warning as well that they might use that
new missile. Now, last week when I spoke to you,
Ukraine had suggested it was potentially an ICBM without a
nuclear warhead on it, but we now know it was
some kind of new type of misstile that Russia's developed
that Western governments are scrambling to try to understand, and
they have threatened more attacks, particularly in what they're saying
(26:32):
is the sort of power centres, decision making centers, so
that would be central key trying to possibly destroy the government.
Speaker 2 (26:40):
And very quickly the knit migration revised figures from twenty
twenty three. How do you lose one hundred and sixty
six thousand people?
Speaker 6 (26:47):
Well quiet, and just to frame this, when the Conservatives
came into governments in twenty ten, they promised that they'd
get migration underneath six figures, so net migration be less
than one hundred thousand. When they left their final full
it turns out that they had claimed in the twelve
months to June twenty twenty three only net migration was
only and I say only seven hundred and forty thousand.
(27:09):
It was in the fact nine hundred and six thousand.
That is a huge revision, and there are questions about
why that revision is so drastic. We have found out
the latest in the twelve months to June this year
it's fallen back to seven hundred and twenty eight thousand.
But we know from what's happening in governments around the world,
the US and Europe as well. If labor can't bring
(27:30):
that number down, then they'll likely be punished at the
election in five years time.
Speaker 2 (27:34):
Thanks so much for it that it's been to mecavini
Are UK Europe correspondent News Talk CID be just gone
Living away from six. Ryan Bridge shows phase that the
Royal Commission inquiry into the COVID response has been released,
and while it says many things were done correctly, it's
highly critical of the government response at the time, particularly
around mandates and the length of lockdowns. Lady Debrah Chambers
(27:56):
case he wrote an opinion piece at the time and
I spoke to her then. This is the first line
from it. The emergency legislation in response to COVID nineteen
giving our government the right to control our freedom of
movement is no longer demonstrably justified in removing the fundamental
rights to which New Zealanders are entitled. And Lady devis
(28:18):
with me this morning. Good morning, Good morning Ryan, great
to speak to you again. How did you feel or
what did you think reading that or having a look
at that report yesterday?
Speaker 9 (28:30):
Well, I thought there was some good news there in
that Tony Professor Tony Blakeley has grappled with and the
hurt caused to a lot of New Zealanders and the
harm caused to a lot of New Zealanders by our
government's response to COVID. And he also obviously has some
(28:55):
pretty good ideas about how to cope next time, but
he does grapple with this issue of excessive use of lockdowns.
And it's also, as we know, very critical of the mandates,
particularly towards the end period of the epidemic.
Speaker 2 (29:11):
Do we need some kind of accountability for this?
Speaker 9 (29:15):
Well, personally, I think that an apology is due. I mean,
I was pro vaccination, so I wasn't affected by the mandates.
But I know from my interaction and from this report
that those people affected by the mandates who lost their jobs,
(29:36):
for example, are very angry still because you see them
and you hear them in the community and political things
and so on, that they disrupt political meetings. They are
feeling so angry by that and that social lack of cohesion.
They're not forgetting and they're quite a big group and
(30:00):
they feel very hurt. And also I also think there's been,
as the Commission says, this reduction throughout New Zealand and
confidence and government. So I must say I'm pointing the
finger at Chris Hipkins. Why because he was Minister in
(30:20):
charge of COVID nineteen response, Education, Police, Health and Deputy
Prime Minister. And he's the only one of the three
of them who are still there in Parliament. And you
know his response is so far quote it's a really
helpful report. Quote, I accept the Royal Commissions finding it.
There were things that could have been done differently. Well,
(30:44):
it's the usual weasel words, isn't it from politicians. I mean,
he would be better and it would be it would
make a difference to people if he said we made
for real mistakes and I'm sorry we did that. I'm
sorry we did that around these as use of mandates,
lockdowns and I think am i q as well?
Speaker 2 (31:04):
What about just an apology basically from Hopkins? Yeah, what
about the And we've only got about a minute left here,
lady Debriah, But what about the you wrote this column.
I'm sure you would have got lots of kick back
from lots of corners. Just that social fragmentation. When one
person put their head above the parapet to say something
(31:27):
that God forbid, might contradict the prevailing narrative.
Speaker 15 (31:31):
You're shot down, Yes, yes, that was definitely the case
that no other view was accepted, and it was, you know,
very it was like a fundamentalist religion was it was
far too rigid and far too lacking and taking into account.
Speaker 9 (31:50):
Other people's perspectives as a sorry state.
Speaker 2 (31:53):
That we were in, Lady debri Chambers, I appreciate your time.
Thank you very much for being with me.
Speaker 8 (31:58):
My pleasure.
Speaker 2 (32:00):
A talk seven away from six News Talks HEB, the.
Speaker 1 (32:03):
News you need this morning and the in depth analysis
early edition with Ryan Bridge and Fifth City, New Zealand's
Furniture Beds and a playing Store.
Speaker 2 (32:12):
News Talk said be five away from six on News
Talks B. We've just had Lady Deborah Chambers on KC
who said that Hepkins needs to stand up in front
of the public, stop pussy footing around my words and
apologize for what happened during COVID. You're on News Talks
HEB and Mike Hosking is up next. Good morning, Make morning.
Speaker 16 (32:33):
Fortunately, we've got jacindaduon who arrives back in the country
this morning to come into the studio and answer all
the questions.
Speaker 2 (32:38):
You don't undert honestly, shock don't. We don't either. That's right.
Speaker 16 (32:44):
Where where's where's she?
Speaker 2 (32:46):
Oh, that's right, she's not here in New York. Get
three hundred capers speaking.
Speaker 16 (32:51):
Apparently saying no, she's not available to talk to anyone
about the decision she made.
Speaker 2 (32:54):
How ironic in some ways you think, well, if she
did come back, could she actually walk down the street.
I thought that quite long, you know what I mean.
Speaker 16 (33:03):
I'm waiting for her book, which apparently was due out
by Christmas, which is clearly never coming. But how do
you how does a woman like her? And that seems
I almost feel sorry for it. How do you come
back to the country ever, Well, that's right, go sit
and wit calls without the book, security guards around your saying,
oh you're wanting me to sign your book, or where
else would you like me to put the book? But
(33:23):
we know where her book sales will do best, and
that's overseas. Yeah, I think that's part of it. Anyway,
we'll be doing a bit of that today. And I
liked your comments earlier on about the police yesterday, that
that local superintendent he's the goods.
Speaker 7 (33:34):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (33:35):
And also I like the fact that they spoke, they
had someone there to speak in Maldi to the coury
who was upset. That's progressive policing. See Tomorrow No Monday for.
Speaker 1 (33:47):
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