December 4, 2024 • 34 mins
On the Early Edition with Ryan Bridge Full Show Podcast for Thursday the 5th of December. Nearly one in four beneficaries are being paid incorrectly when the target is 95% correct payment. What is the Ministry for Social Development doing wrong and how can it be fixed? Green Party Social Development Spokesperson Ricardo Menéndez March joins the show.
The government is looking at advice on our biogenic methane as they look to set new targets next year. Associate Minister for Agriculture Andrew Hoggard speaks to Ryan about what it means for the sector.
More international students are attending our universities, but how do the numbers compare to pre-covid levels? Education NZ's Geoff Bilbrough has the details.
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
The issues, the interviews and the inside. Ryan Bridge new
for twenty twenty four on the early edition with Smith City,
New Zealand's furniture beds and a play a store news
Dogs'd be.
Speaker 2 (00:16):
Good Morning New Zealand. It is six a half to five.
Great to have your company this Thursday morning. Coming up
on the show our lead interview before six beneficiaries have
been over or underpaid in quite large numbers. Why international
student numbers are up, but why aren't we caning it
like the osigs are at pre COVID levels. A major
company's CEO has been shot in Manhattan and New York City.
(00:36):
It appears to be a targeted attack. Our US correspondent explains,
Plus Andrew Hoggard's on the show Chickens Methane Forestry will
talk about all of that and why British consumers are
pouring milk down the sink.
Speaker 1 (00:50):
The agenda.
Speaker 2 (00:51):
It is Thursday, the fifth of December. The chaos continues
in South Korea. Martial law lasted just a few hours.
But will the president have another crack at it? What
position party says?
Speaker 3 (01:01):
Yes, they will try it again by addressing their shortcomings
after they have failed once. When that time comes, We
the citizens, along with the Democratic Party of Korea and
our lawmakers will step forward and fight to ensure this victory.
Speaker 2 (01:15):
A weird little period. The impeachment proceedings will start this weekend,
and the country's largest union called for a strike until
the president resigns. Cuba, we've spoken about this before. Their
electrical grid it's collapsed again. Nobody can go to work
or school for several days in Cuba at the moment.
And the problem, well, it's the same as it was
(01:36):
last time. They don't maintain their power plants properly. There's
more demand for air conditioning, and there's US sanctions limiting
fuel supply. The French prime minister is facing a vote
of no confidence. It's about to be by by Bayer.
The French Prime minister set to last about as long
as a croissant at breakfast, which is not very long
at all.
Speaker 4 (01:56):
Based on what the parties that depose these motions are saying, yeah, mathematically,
it seems like it's going to go through. For me,
the most important issue is not that much that the
government will be turned down, because that's something that could
have happened anyways. When you have such a diviated assembly
but is that we are not going to have a
budget voided by the end of the year.
Speaker 2 (02:16):
So the National Assembly opened just over an hour ago
with a result expected by a round eight o'clock this morning,
So Michael bring you that. Later on a news talk
said bad Spotify wrapped is out Taylor Swifts taking it out.
She's been named the most played artist globally and in
New Zealand for the second year in a row. Music
(02:38):
sound a little bit boring.
Speaker 1 (02:40):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (02:40):
I suppose she has some more upbeat ones, doesn't she.
She pulled in twenty six point six billion streams, followed
by the weekend Bad Bunny Drake and Billie Eilish out
most streamed local Artists six sixty, followed by lab on.
Speaker 1 (02:54):
Your Radio and online on iHeartRadio Early Edition with Ryan
Bridge and It's fist City, New Zealand's Furniture Beds and
a playing store news talk z be.
Speaker 2 (03:05):
I hope you're having a one full morning so far.
Well that something just started, really, hasn't it, And it's
nine minutes after five. I am heading off next week.
I'm going to be filling in for Heather on drives,
so this will be my second to last show with
you all, and I must say it's been an absolute
privilege to be with you for the last five months
and I look forward to rejoining you next year. Sometime.
(03:25):
I'll have more on that after the end of the
show tomorrow. This morning, there is a review being announced
of the Commerce Act. This is from Andrew Bailey. He's
had another glass of wine and he's ready to get
into some work. So he is the Commerce Minister and
he's at the Consumer Fares Minister. The Commerce Commission needs
more teeth. The problem is what they call creeping acquisitions. Now,
(03:50):
what is a creeping acquisition? I hear you ask companies
making small acquisitions which don't affect the makeup of a
whole market they operate in on their own. Now here's
an example for you. Medical centers. You know, you get that,
and veterinary clinics, some physiotherapy, dentistry businesses, lots of little ones,
and then you'll get a big company coming in buying
(04:12):
them all up and so on. It's so micro that
it doesn't You wouldn't have your ComCom coming in and
saying nay to anything like that because it's too minor.
But cumulatively, does it have an impact and if it does,
then does the ComCom need some more powers? That is
basically what Andrew Bailey is looking at. What they've announced
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they're going to look at this morning, that cumulative effect.
Ten minutes after five, Bryan Bridge. So we're going to
talk to Andrew Hoggart next SS, the Associate Agriculture Minister.
There was so much to talk to him about. He's
also buying security minister, so of course we'll get an
update on the chicken situation in Otago, also the methane situation,
(04:57):
the forestry situation and and the pouring of the milk
down the sink in the UK. Lots to talk to
him about next. I found my mind seeing is saying.
Speaker 1 (05:12):
Ryan Bridge New for twenty twenty four on the early
edition with Smith City, New Zealand's furniture beds at a
flying Store News Talk.
Speaker 2 (05:21):
Sidby, We've got some core logic numbers out on housing
will get too shortly as well. Trump's pick for Secretary
of Defense. This is Pete his guest. He is embroiled
in controversy. It's to do with drinking, it's to do
with his treatment of women. So will there be another
of Trump's picks four cabinet fall by the wayside. We'll
talk to our US correspondent about that. Just before I
(05:42):
didn't und quarter to six this morning, Bryan Bridge. So
our methane emissions targets may be lowered. A government appointed
scientific panel has found by reducing our twenty to fifty
methane emissions targets, we could still meet the goal of
not seeing additional warming above twenty seventeen levels. The Climate
Change Commission has warned that there is no evidence to
(06:04):
support changing the existing target of up to forty seven percent.
The government is now going over the panel's advice to
decide on a new target from next year. Andrew Hoggart
is the Associate Minister for Agriculture. He's with me this morning. Andrew,
Good morning, Good morning, Andrew, Yeah, good morning right, good
to have you on the show. Minister. Tell me are
(06:25):
you are you basically saying you will love the targets.
Speaker 5 (06:29):
No, this is just the scientific advice that we've received
and decisions will be made next year. We know from
my previous role my thoughts credy and where the target
should be. So yeah, this is just scientific advice to
inform the policy decision that government will be making.
Speaker 2 (06:47):
Do you concede that it's not as good for the
planet but it's better for farmers?
Speaker 5 (06:53):
Well no, I mean what the science is saying here
is that no additional warming mean from no additional warming, Basically,
the farming sector needs to reduce on what the world's
currently doing by fifteen percent, or if everyone else in
the world steps up, then we have to move up
to twenty four percent. But that's the sort of information
(07:16):
it's come back from this report. And you know, I
would think that our farmer is doing our part, not
adding to additional warming is what they want to be doing.
You know, parents accords all about limiting additional warming for
one point five, we're saying for New Zealand agriculture, what's
the number for zero?
Speaker 2 (07:32):
Yeah? This is the difference though, isn't it. It's the
expectation that the sort of parameters that have been set
for this because it's about not exceeding twenty seventeen levels
versus the current targets, which are more about cooling the planet.
Speaker 5 (07:47):
Well, I mean, well, no, the current targets are about
stopping warming to one and a half an extra one
and a half degrees, And so we're saying We're not
going to add to that at all. Is what this?
You know, this question is asked, what is the number
farmers need to achieve to say that, hey, we haven't
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added to the problem.
Speaker 2 (08:11):
You know, the farm land use changes that you've announced,
do you basically are you basically saying to farmers you
can do what you want with your land, but don't
expect carbon credits if it's productive farming land.
Speaker 5 (08:24):
That's pretty much in a nutshell.
Speaker 2 (08:26):
Yes, two hundred thousand hectares of productive sheep and beef
we've converted in the past five years. Do you have
an idea of what this change might mean for that
number going forward?
Speaker 5 (08:39):
Well, obviously it'll reduce it. Then in terms of the
exact number, No, I wouldn't have that off the top
of my head, but it would sort of. You know,
what we're seeing has been that the main driver for
a forestation has been the carbon price, and that's what's
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driven a lot of their sales and changes of blanket
planting of farmland into forestry. And that's what's occurred. And
for a number of years now we've been hearing from
those real communities massive concern about going to the land
effectively into carbon forestry where there's no jobs, it's just
locked up and becomes a bit of a fire risk
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and real concern to their community.
Speaker 2 (09:25):
Minister, just putting your biosecurity head on for a second.
What's the latest do you have testing results from that
second Dunedin farm that was being.
Speaker 5 (09:32):
Looked at no When I wake up, I checked my
phone and there was nothing came through overnight, So it
should be at some point we'll get the update on
all those other farms, which will give us a real
indication as to what the spread is and how quickly
we can tidy this.
Speaker 2 (09:50):
Up if it's confirmed, like if it's if it's there,
is that really bad?
Speaker 5 (09:58):
It'll depend on whether or not the So this is
the Seeking farm south of Dnean, The question in my
mind will be do we have a trace between those
two properties? Is there a link between them now? If
we can't find a link between them, and also there
is some difference in the sequencing in terms of the
(10:21):
DNA of the disease. That then adds another variable to
the resk of is there singing in the natural environment
that's causing this?
Speaker 2 (10:30):
Yeah, okay, and good to know. Andrew Haggard, thank you
very much. For your time this morning, really appreciate it.
The Associate Minister for Agriculture there on a range of
issues just gone eighteen minutes after five. I will tell
you why this particular cattle feed in the UK is
causing some consternation with consumers. They literally pouring milk down
the sink and the toilet and filming themselves doing it.
(10:50):
I don't know why you pour it down the toilet,
just like you can make the same point pouring it
down the sink and anyway. I'll tell you more about
that later on in the show. Coming up next, we
are talking our student numbers. International student numbers. They are
a big number for US, our fourth largest export earner.
But why aren't we caning it like the Aussies?
Speaker 1 (11:09):
The news you need this morning and the in depth
analysis early edition with Ryan Bridge and Fifth City, New
Zealand's Furniture Beds and a playing store News Talks.
Speaker 2 (11:19):
It'd be twenty one after five. Universities will be celebrating
the international student numbers are up seventy three thousand enrollments
between January and August this year. That's up twenty four
percent compared to the same period last year. The numbers
are up six percent on twenty twenty three totals already
still not back to pre COVID levels, though we are
seven percent shy of that. Jeff bilbra Is with Education
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New Zealand. This is a Crown entity set up to
promote us basically as a study destination to the world. Jeff,
good morning, good morning, How are you today?
Speaker 6 (11:50):
Thanks leaving me on the show.
Speaker 2 (11:51):
Great to have you here. This is obviously a big
export earner for us. Why yes, the numbers are good,
but why aren't we back to you or doing what
the old things are doing and beating their pre COVID levels.
Speaker 6 (12:02):
Oh well, the first thing to note is that in
just two terms that we've had more enrollments than we
had in all of last year. So that's a good
thing to celebrate. Regarding the Australians, what happened and to
the Canadians to some extent, what happened during the pandemic
is both countries decided to use international students as are
economic consentive to help their economy go to economies, and
(12:25):
they both developed what were quite welcoming policies for international students.
Sadly that had not good effects in both countries. And
what we're now seen is both Canada and Australia are
bringing in caps to international students. In Canada, the student
experience was particularly poor and there were reports of students
having to use food beats and some sleeping rough and
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in Australia they lost public support for international education. Now
we haven't had either of those experiences in New Zealand.
Our research suggests that over eighty percent of international students
rate their experience very highly, and by far the bulk
majority of New Zealand is more than seventy percent. Still
have very positive experiences and positive perceptions of New Zealand.
(13:09):
So both Australia and Canada had very welcoming policies. They
got lots of students and it's caused some problems shutting down.
Speaker 2 (13:16):
But they did get the cash too, didn't they, you know?
And that's the outside to it. I suppose will those
cats that you're talking about that Australia is going to
put in, will they benefit us?
Speaker 6 (13:27):
Absolutely? So what's happened now is that the Australian and
the Canadian policies look a lot more like us. So
if you think of it as a running race, they
might have had a bit of a head start before,
but now they're back at the starting line alongside us,
and so we're starting to see a lot of interest.
The agent networks that we have offshore teams work with
them daily. They are telling us that there's a lot
(13:49):
of interest in New Zealand. We'll do a brand health
monitor and we've just got some initial results. I can't
give you the numbers, but I can tell you that
it's positive and it looks like some of the awareness
that we're getting in some of the interests is at
the expense of the Australian So definitely it's a good
period for New Zealand. But I think we need to
recognize that the sort of the steady growth that we've
(14:09):
had over the past three years since the border has
reopened has been to the benefit of both the sector
and the students, and the sector has been able to
build their capacity back steadily and the students experience has
continued to be good through that period.
Speaker 2 (14:24):
Without a sort of rip, shit and bust thing like
Australia and Canada have done. Jeff, my words, not yours, Jeff. Jeff,
thank you very much for being on.
Speaker 6 (14:30):
The very much that right.
Speaker 2 (14:32):
Jeff Pilbre who is with Education New Zealand. It is
twenty four after five News Talks HEB the early.
Speaker 1 (14:38):
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Speaker 2 (14:43):
You're on News Talks HEB twenty six after five. Should
the government buy something just because it's made here in
New Zealand, even if it costs us more. That's basically
the question you've got to ask yourself after the latest
wool snub. This time it was kying of order saying
no in bold text, by the way to key, we
made woolen carpet for state houses and yes to synthetic
(15:06):
imported stuff. Why it's cheaper. We've been here before. You'll
remember the school classroom's same story. And it happens despite
a coalition agreement deal with New Zealand first ensuring where practical,
and that might be the caveat that KAO is using
here to get out of wool, that the local product
be used in government procurement and in government buildings. But Ko,
(15:28):
like a good kid in class, has been listening to
the government's main lecture, which has cut costs. Wool is
thirty percent more expensive on average, and carpets for state
houses than the nylon equivalent, But the industry says KO
and the deal could revitalize the flailing product and its fortunes.
So we have a clash of competing priorities cost versus localism.
(15:52):
The answer to the question posed at the start of
this is another question, which is never It's kind of
annoying when people do that, But here we are what
is the net benefit to New Zealand's economy as a
whole of government buying wool carpet, including the jobs that
you would create, including the spending that you would encourage,
and the increased cost of wool on the taxpayer. That
(16:15):
surely is your number. That is the number that you
would base a decision on whether to use a New
Zealand made product over a synthetic, imported equivalent. Frame Bridge
News Talk SEATB Lots more to come. We're going to
go to our US correspondence. Just before a quarter to
six this morning. There's a health boss, the guy who
(16:38):
runs one of America's largest health insurance companies, has been
shot dead in Manhattan, and they think it was a
targeted attack. So we'll find out more about that. Also,
we're going to talk beneficiaries and why they aren't being
paid the right amounts. Just before six in our lead
twenty nine after five Newstalk set b skin kind of lay,
but the ladies wasn't mind. Oh my good lord, some
(17:03):
change some I'm gonna pull me up a double shot
of whiskey. They on me a tack.
Speaker 7 (17:08):
Damn goody history.
Speaker 2 (17:10):
There's a part of downtown near Fishtry. Everybody had the
barket doumba, tell me up a duble shot of liskey.
Speaker 8 (17:19):
They're on me.
Speaker 2 (17:19):
Attacked down day that the body double man you. Everybody had,
everybody had by.
Speaker 7 (17:37):
You, everybody at.
Speaker 1 (17:38):
By the first word on the News of the Day
early edition with Ryan Bridge and Smith City, New Zealand's
Furniture Bits and a playing store. US talks in me.
Speaker 2 (17:58):
Good morning, Moselle, welcome to your day. It is the
fifth of December. Great to have your company. We're going
to a US correspondent about quarter six this morning, Cape
Fisher is standing by Racardo Me and India's march on
why beneficiaries aren't being paid what they should, some of
them resulting in debts, which is never a good thing.
Also this morning, a really interesting story from the UK.
Social media users are pouring out milk into their sincson
(18:21):
into their toilets, and filming themselves doing this. And it's
all over an additive, a cattle feed additive that reduces
methane emissions from cows. And this is something that's going
to happen more and more as countries like ours try
and reduce our impact on the climate. Blah blah blah.
Bovia is what it's called, and the consumers are going
there's a trial going on. It's made its way into
(18:44):
milk which is being sold in supermarkets over in the UK, Tescos,
et cetera. And so these consumers are seeing social media
posts about it, claiming that it's harmful to human health
and harmful to the animals, et cetera. And it's, by
the way, a product that has not been a pre
moved in New Zealand yet, so you don't have to
worry about it. But over there they are worried about it,
(19:04):
and people are pouring it into the sink and pouring
it into the toilet to make it kind of a
stand against it. It is interesting, isn't it, Because we're
going to use more and more of these technologies to
alter the behavior the natural behaviors of cows our dairy
herd to try and reduce their emissions. Basically try and
hold in a fart or a burp, which is, as
(19:25):
you and I know, never a good thing, is it,
And it doesn't feel like a healthy thing to do,
but apparently better for the planet. So anyway, there's a
bit of a tension going on. They're twenty two away
from six bird flu. We're waiting on test results in
that second farm in Otago. Andrew Hoggard, who is the
Associate Agricultural Minister, was on this show twenty minutes ago.
He said he hasn't heard anything overnight yet but Colm
(19:47):
proct isn't a needed for us this morning column. There
are answers expected on this today. Yeah, that's correct to Ryan.
Speaker 9 (19:54):
It's just exactly whether or not the second Otago farm
has bird flu among its chickens. Look, MPIs continuing to
call those eighty thousand birds at a Mainland poultry managed
monarchy farm which confirmed the disease on Sunday, and then
yesterday it halted all movements of materials from another small
farm near Dunedin after a number of chicken deaths there.
(20:15):
Mpiss that's standard biosecurity process for when unusual deaths are reported.
They say testings underway and it's not confirmed to be
part of the bird flu outbreak at this point. Mainland
Poultry is also testing all at South Island farms, with
results due next week.
Speaker 2 (20:30):
All right, how's your weather today? Got a strong win?
Watched today?
Speaker 9 (20:34):
Fine, but sol west gales gusts of one hundred k's
today for Dunedin easing this evening the high twenty two.
Speaker 2 (20:39):
All right, thank you, and clear than christ Church. Clear
it was guilty for the death of young Fai Bao.
Speaker 10 (20:46):
It certainly was. Ryan Chinese national Tindrin Chow has been
found guilty of murdering the christ Church real estate agent
and mother of one back in July of twenty twenty three.
She was last seen anti property in Hornby, where she
was meeting with Chow for a private property viewing. It
was there that the Crown said he attacked her. He
then dragged her to the boot of his car, drove
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to the outskirts of christ Church and killed her. Her
body was found in a shallow grave on some private farmland,
but not until more than a year later Crown evidence
sowed the two phones were together on the day Bell disappeared,
including at that grave site. Their blood was also detected
at the Hornby property Chow's car. There was also DNA
found on her destroyed phone. Chow, though claimed all of
(21:30):
the evidence or much of the evidence was fake and
was not enough to persuade the jury. He will be
sentenced to a for murder on March seven.
Speaker 2 (21:38):
Sounded like a really complicated trial. How's the weather today,
c there.
Speaker 10 (21:42):
A nice day for christ Church? Fine, westerly is turning
easterly then dying out a maximum of twenty seven.
Speaker 2 (21:47):
Thank you Maxis and Wellington.
Speaker 7 (21:49):
Max.
Speaker 2 (21:49):
We're gonna be a bit of a grinch on the
staff Christmas parties for government agencies.
Speaker 7 (21:54):
Yeah, it certainly seems like going to the days of
extravagant work Christmas parties unsurprising consider during the government's instruction
to the public sector the new Ministry for Regulation, for instance,
they're asking staff to bring a plate of food themselves,
drinks provided by senior leadership. The Health Ministry doing an
in house function worth less than ten dollars per person,
(22:15):
including non alcoholic drinks and karaoke, which I'm not sure
is the right combination for late afternoon Euphoria Stafford to
a FTI spending seven dollars themselves just to attend their
own offsite party where they pay for their own drinks.
Crown Law doing something similar, And that's the sense everywhere
have scaled about Christmas. Essentially, even at n z B Wellington,
(22:36):
we're going in house a couple of free drinks here,
food three to six in the afternoon in the office.
Basically we're sorting ourselves out this Christmas.
Speaker 2 (22:44):
Yeah, the same thing here. I think I'm not even
going to go to it anymore. I can't here.
Speaker 7 (22:48):
Our big stars tend to avoid such things, don't it.
Speaker 2 (22:52):
Hey, I'm not Mike. I know, I know he won't
be going anywhere near a Christmas Paddy. I would happily go,
but I've got work and so I can't. Seven dollars
you said, one agency seven dollars for food and where
are they going? Macas well?
Speaker 7 (23:05):
Exactly? Well, I think it's just for venue higher to
cover the venue higher, and then when they're there they
pay for their own drinks and food.
Speaker 2 (23:12):
How's your were there?
Speaker 5 (23:13):
Uh?
Speaker 7 (23:13):
Cloudy with a bit of rizzulve clearing to find this
afternoon Strong Norwesteries twenty two to the High in the
central city.
Speaker 8 (23:20):
All right, Neva's and not Neva Christmas Party l starts
next week, isn't it next bright?
Speaker 2 (23:24):
No, I'm not going.
Speaker 8 (23:25):
But it's two pm or two thirty pm until four. Yes,
well that's by naptime. I cannot go.
Speaker 2 (23:31):
No, And I was going to go like I would
have gone, but I just have to do drive on
that day, so I can't go. But the thing is,
they're not what they used to be.
Speaker 11 (23:40):
No.
Speaker 2 (23:40):
It used to be about who was getting wasted and
who was sleeping with who, And that doesn't happen anymore.
Speaker 8 (23:46):
It happens from two to But the big thing is
the costumes. Everyone here go. If you don't wear a costume,
you might as.
Speaker 2 (23:56):
Well not go.
Speaker 8 (23:57):
They go burg on the costumes.
Speaker 2 (23:59):
What is there a theme?
Speaker 8 (24:00):
There is a theme.
Speaker 2 (24:01):
It's all right.
Speaker 8 (24:04):
If they do a seme, I just just rock up
in my vegetable costume or something like that. Even if
it's summertime. I'll even go drist up as a carrot.
Speaker 2 (24:13):
Speaking of summer, how is the weather in Auckland today?
Speaker 8 (24:15):
Wellhi, twenty four, hasn't it been really really hot? Muggy,
very muggy. So we've got cloudy conditions here in Auckland today.
Scattered light rain which will be welcomed. Apparently that's going
to arrive this evening, but slip slops slay up twenty
four to.
Speaker 2 (24:30):
High Tilliam never thank you very much for that's seventeen
away from six News Talks VB.
Speaker 1 (24:34):
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I tell you what your house is worth in just
a few moments. Just gone cowarded to six on News
Talks EDB right now though Cape Fisher, our US correspondent
is with us this morning. The CEO of United Healthcare
has been shot dead in Manhattan. The NYPD currently holding
a presser. They say this is not a random a shooting.
This appears to be a targeted a tech kate, what's
(25:02):
the lightest.
Speaker 12 (25:04):
Yeah, as you say, LISS, are about to give a
news conference in New York to get more details because
at the moment things are pretty sketchy. We know that
Brian Thompson was shot dead on the street outside the
Hilton Hotel in Midtown Manhattan just before seven am local time.
He was making his way to the hotel for an
(25:25):
investor's meeting. We're told everybody there is in shock, as
our staff of the hotel. As you say, police think
this was targeted and not something random to the Mayor
of New York, Eric Adams, has tried to reassure New
Yorkers that it is safe to be out on the streets.
But clearly a shocking occurrent to kind of seems to
(25:46):
be some sort of execution in the early hours of
this morning. He was wearing a hooded black garment and
escaped on a bike heading down an alleyway towards Central Park.
But other than that, we still don't know what the
motive could be. The police press conference is just starting
as we speak.
Speaker 2 (26:04):
Yeah, I could say they've got a fine number up
for tips, so they're obviously wanting people to dobbin what
happens and.
Speaker 12 (26:10):
A ten thousand dollars reward.
Speaker 2 (26:12):
Right, Okay, sounds quite serious. Let's go to Trump and
has picked the Secretary of Defense. There are allegations of
drinking and treatment of women. Here, is this going to
be another one that falls by the wayside.
Speaker 12 (26:24):
It's certainly looking very tense at the moment as to
whether he can hang on to this. This is Pete
heski the former Fox News presenter, but there are many
allegations about him being drunk on the job and about
potential allegations of misconduct towards women, to the extent that
Donald Trump has apparently started to look for a potential replacement,
(26:47):
including his former rival for the presidential nomination, that is
Ron DeSantis, the governor of Florida. They have had not
the closest of relationships, given that they were fighting each
other for the presidential nomination, and so it has surprised
some people that Donald Trump is looking to Ron DeSantis,
But at the moment, Pete Heskiff is still the nominee.
He's on Capitol Hill today trying to persuade some of
(27:10):
those senators who are unsure about him that he is
the man for the job. And his mother would have
even been on TV today trying to say that he
is a great guy and not to worry, even though
back in twenty eighteen she apparently emailed him and told
him he was an abuser of women. Oh yes, God
takes that back and has apologized. But you know it's
(27:32):
not looking great, no.
Speaker 2 (27:33):
And we'll never good. If you need to call your
mum up to come out and do a presser for you, Kate,
thank you for that, Kate Fisher. Are you is correspondent
to just gone twelve minutes away from six Bryan Bridge.
Shearly one and four beneficiaries are being paid incorrectly. This
according to an annual report from the Ministry for Social Development.
It found only seventy seven point six percent of clients
had their entitlement correctly assist in twenty three twenty four.
(27:55):
That is worse than the previous year's result, which was
eighty two point seven percent. Ricardom as much as the
Green Party's Sarcial Development spokesperstings with us this morning, we
kin'd of more than a good morning. Well, this is
obviously not good. And the worst part of this is
that if you're a beneficiary and you get overpaid, then
you have a debt that you have to pay back.
Speaker 11 (28:18):
Yeah, that's right. And so what often happens is that
you could be overpaid by say it could be you know,
you know, fifteen dollars each week, but that accumulates and
if MSc picks that up way later than the line,
you could end up then slat with a you know,
thousands of dollars worth of debt from overpayments for something
that wasn't really your fault. MSDY couldn't even tell us
(28:39):
that they would guarantee that if it was their fault,
they would not then slap someone with a massive death
later thunder line, that means that pushes people further down
the poverty line and in a hardship as they have
to repay it.
Speaker 2 (28:52):
The fault thing is crucial because it, as you say,
will determine who might be responsible. But isn't this just
a too hard basket thing because you've got somebody who's
working irregular hours, thereby changing what their entitlement to the
benefit might be. And every week you've got to basically
update MSD with how many hours you've worked, otherwise you'll
be overpaid.
Speaker 11 (29:14):
And part of the problem is particularly for people who
are in casual work or moving in and out of work,
is that we have an updated and haven't improved the
system that a lot of people, for example, move from
being on a benefit into part time work. And because
of the way that your benefit effectively obeys, yes, you
(29:34):
do have that moment in which it's really difficult for
a beneficiary to be adjusting those things equally. It's difficile
for the working and competitive as well.
Speaker 2 (29:42):
It's so inefficient. The whole thing sounds so inefficient. You
have to pick up the phone and ring them and
tell them what your ours are that week, what is
your solution.
Speaker 11 (29:50):
So there's two things here. If you're listed benefits above
the poverty line and a lot of people to live
with dignity work and income case managers actually wouldn't have
to spend so much time delivering things like hardship and
emergency grants. They could be focusing on the basics like
getting benefit entitlements rights.
Speaker 2 (30:06):
Yeah, but the thing is, then do also make work
look less attractive? You know what I mean?
Speaker 11 (30:11):
Well, there's no actually, there's no evidence of spaces for that.
If anything, Actually, when you have people living way below
the poverty line, you make it harder for them to
find work. That's been married and researched across many countries
where they have similar welfare systems. The other part is
that we need to make our abatement rates better. So
this is how much or you lose your benefit when
you enter work. If we make that a lot more stable,
(30:34):
it means you wouldn't have a super complicated welfare system
that even case managers at work and then come struggle
to understand RACARTDA.
Speaker 2 (30:40):
What about an app? I mean, why have these bureaucrats
not got a simple app that you can log in
and you can punch And I've done twenty seven hours
this week. Last week I did twenty six. You know,
why can't we make this simple?
Speaker 11 (30:54):
Well, part of the issue is that successive governments have
tried to make the IT systems better acquires an upfront investment,
and right now we've got a government that actually is
refusing to put enough money to update the IT systems
from working income that are frankly decades and decades old.
All right, well, you're transported to the eighties or well.
Speaker 2 (31:14):
I mean obviously the last government had the same approach,
otherwise we wouldn't still be living in the eighties. Ricardo,
thank you very much for being on the show. I
appreciate Ricarverman in India's March talking there about nearly one
in four beneficiaries being paid incorrectly. You're on news Talks,
Hebb get ahead of the headlines.
Speaker 1 (31:30):
Ryan Bridge, you for twenty twenty four on early edition
with Smith City, New Zealand's furniture bids and a playing store.
Speaker 2 (31:37):
News talk ZIDB. It is six away from six news talks. Heb.
We had Andrew Hoggart on the program just after five
this morning. He said he still hasn't had any text
updates on that second farm. This is to do with
the bird flow outbreak in Otago. He hasn't had any
updates over night on the second farm. Testing from that
farm will be crucial into how this works going forward.
He's expecting something later today. It has just gone five
(31:59):
away from six and John just talks Marke's next Good Morning, Mike.
Speaker 13 (32:03):
Isn't the saddest saddest story of the day the Christmas
parties in the public service. It's like read through the departments.
If you read through each head it is it is pathetic.
Speaker 2 (32:17):
And do you know there's a there's a social fundraising
committee for one of these departments, the Crown. Can you
imagine Debra from the Crown Laws exactly? Social committee, Jessica.
And so there's a couple of them. The best one,
and I can't remember which one it is, somebody in
management is actually buying some drinks for the staff. And
the worst one, I think is you've got to bring
(32:37):
seven dollars along. I don't know what do you I mean?
I said it is seven dollars. Then the ginger, the
giant jinger machine. I feel bad. The thing is, if
we're telling workers state employees to come back to the office,
then you have to.
Speaker 13 (32:56):
It is a funny thing, isn't it, Because I mean,
as you well know, I dislike most of the people
around here, and so therefore I don't want to be
part of a social function, so I'd be happy. But
and you can also understand, you know, given the climate,
the moment you have a party or a function, everyone goes, well,
how much does that cost?
Speaker 2 (33:10):
And have paper?
Speaker 13 (33:11):
And I get all of that, But when you read
it as this list, it's got this tragic kind of
and you can have seven dollars and this twelve dollars
for you and bring an own plate and bring your
own drink, so you turn up literally with a six pack.
Speaker 2 (33:24):
Under your arm, and some lammington thing is they probably
would The parties aren't funny anymore? Wouldn't you drink the
six beers you can have too? It's everyone's non alcoholic,
and who's no one sleeping with and anyone else? What's
the fun is that? Is that was?
Speaker 13 (33:39):
Is that what happened across where you were at the
old place.
Speaker 2 (33:43):
About It was a Cispit come Christmas.
Speaker 13 (33:49):
Anyway, Forestry conversions, big talking on that this morning, so well.
Speaker 7 (33:52):
One will deal with it too.
Speaker 2 (33:53):
Nice one. Mic is with your next Have a fantastic
Tuesday everyone. I will see you tomorrow.
Speaker 1 (34:13):
For more from Early Edition with Ryan Bridge. Listen live
to News Talks it'd be from five am weekdays, or
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The issues, the interviews and the inside. Ryan Bridge new
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Dogs'd be.
Speaker 2 (00:16):
Good Morning New Zealand. It is six a half to five.
Great to have your company this Thursday morning. Coming up
on the show our lead interview before six beneficiaries have
been over or underpaid in quite large numbers. Why international
student numbers are up, but why aren't we caning it
like the osigs are at pre COVID levels. A major
company's CEO has been shot in Manhattan and New York City.
(00:36):
It appears to be a targeted attack. Our US correspondent explains,
Plus Andrew Hoggard's on the show Chickens Methane Forestry will
talk about all of that and why British consumers are
pouring milk down the sink.
Speaker 1 (00:50):
The agenda.
Speaker 2 (00:51):
It is Thursday, the fifth of December. The chaos continues
in South Korea. Martial law lasted just a few hours.
But will the president have another crack at it? What
position party says?
Speaker 3 (01:01):
Yes, they will try it again by addressing their shortcomings
after they have failed once. When that time comes, We
the citizens, along with the Democratic Party of Korea and
our lawmakers will step forward and fight to ensure this victory.
Speaker 2 (01:15):
A weird little period. The impeachment proceedings will start this weekend,
and the country's largest union called for a strike until
the president resigns. Cuba, we've spoken about this before. Their
electrical grid it's collapsed again. Nobody can go to work
or school for several days in Cuba at the moment.
And the problem, well, it's the same as it was
(01:36):
last time. They don't maintain their power plants properly. There's
more demand for air conditioning, and there's US sanctions limiting
fuel supply. The French prime minister is facing a vote
of no confidence. It's about to be by by Bayer.
The French Prime minister set to last about as long
as a croissant at breakfast, which is not very long
at all.
Speaker 4 (01:56):
Based on what the parties that depose these motions are saying, yeah, mathematically,
it seems like it's going to go through. For me,
the most important issue is not that much that the
government will be turned down, because that's something that could
have happened anyways. When you have such a diviated assembly
but is that we are not going to have a
budget voided by the end of the year.
Speaker 2 (02:16):
So the National Assembly opened just over an hour ago
with a result expected by a round eight o'clock this morning,
So Michael bring you that. Later on a news talk
said bad Spotify wrapped is out Taylor Swifts taking it out.
She's been named the most played artist globally and in
New Zealand for the second year in a row. Music
(02:38):
sound a little bit boring.
Speaker 1 (02:40):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (02:40):
I suppose she has some more upbeat ones, doesn't she.
She pulled in twenty six point six billion streams, followed
by the weekend Bad Bunny Drake and Billie Eilish out
most streamed local Artists six sixty, followed by lab on.
Speaker 1 (02:54):
Your Radio and online on iHeartRadio Early Edition with Ryan
Bridge and It's fist City, New Zealand's Furniture Beds and
a playing store news talk z be.
Speaker 2 (03:05):
I hope you're having a one full morning so far.
Well that something just started, really, hasn't it, And it's
nine minutes after five. I am heading off next week.
I'm going to be filling in for Heather on drives,
so this will be my second to last show with
you all, and I must say it's been an absolute
privilege to be with you for the last five months
and I look forward to rejoining you next year. Sometime.
(03:25):
I'll have more on that after the end of the
show tomorrow. This morning, there is a review being announced
of the Commerce Act. This is from Andrew Bailey. He's
had another glass of wine and he's ready to get
into some work. So he is the Commerce Minister and
he's at the Consumer Fares Minister. The Commerce Commission needs
more teeth. The problem is what they call creeping acquisitions. Now,
(03:50):
what is a creeping acquisition? I hear you ask companies
making small acquisitions which don't affect the makeup of a
whole market they operate in on their own. Now here's
an example for you. Medical centers. You know, you get that,
and veterinary clinics, some physiotherapy, dentistry businesses, lots of little ones,
and then you'll get a big company coming in buying
(04:12):
them all up and so on. It's so micro that
it doesn't You wouldn't have your ComCom coming in and
saying nay to anything like that because it's too minor.
But cumulatively, does it have an impact and if it does,
then does the ComCom need some more powers? That is
basically what Andrew Bailey is looking at. What they've announced
(04:33):
they're going to look at this morning, that cumulative effect.
Ten minutes after five, Bryan Bridge. So we're going to
talk to Andrew Hoggart next SS, the Associate Agriculture Minister.
There was so much to talk to him about. He's
also buying security minister, so of course we'll get an
update on the chicken situation in Otago, also the methane situation,
(04:57):
the forestry situation and and the pouring of the milk
down the sink in the UK. Lots to talk to
him about next. I found my mind seeing is saying.
Speaker 1 (05:12):
Ryan Bridge New for twenty twenty four on the early
edition with Smith City, New Zealand's furniture beds at a
flying Store News Talk.
Speaker 2 (05:21):
Sidby, We've got some core logic numbers out on housing
will get too shortly as well. Trump's pick for Secretary
of Defense. This is Pete his guest. He is embroiled
in controversy. It's to do with drinking, it's to do
with his treatment of women. So will there be another
of Trump's picks four cabinet fall by the wayside. We'll
talk to our US correspondent about that. Just before I
(05:42):
didn't und quarter to six this morning, Bryan Bridge. So
our methane emissions targets may be lowered. A government appointed
scientific panel has found by reducing our twenty to fifty
methane emissions targets, we could still meet the goal of
not seeing additional warming above twenty seventeen levels. The Climate
Change Commission has warned that there is no evidence to
(06:04):
support changing the existing target of up to forty seven percent.
The government is now going over the panel's advice to
decide on a new target from next year. Andrew Hoggart
is the Associate Minister for Agriculture. He's with me this morning. Andrew,
Good morning, Good morning, Andrew, Yeah, good morning right, good
to have you on the show. Minister. Tell me are
(06:25):
you are you basically saying you will love the targets.
Speaker 5 (06:29):
No, this is just the scientific advice that we've received
and decisions will be made next year. We know from
my previous role my thoughts credy and where the target
should be. So yeah, this is just scientific advice to
inform the policy decision that government will be making.
Speaker 2 (06:47):
Do you concede that it's not as good for the
planet but it's better for farmers?
Speaker 5 (06:53):
Well no, I mean what the science is saying here
is that no additional warming mean from no additional warming, Basically,
the farming sector needs to reduce on what the world's
currently doing by fifteen percent, or if everyone else in
the world steps up, then we have to move up
to twenty four percent. But that's the sort of information
(07:16):
it's come back from this report. And you know, I
would think that our farmer is doing our part, not
adding to additional warming is what they want to be doing.
You know, parents accords all about limiting additional warming for
one point five, we're saying for New Zealand agriculture, what's
the number for zero?
Speaker 2 (07:32):
Yeah? This is the difference though, isn't it. It's the
expectation that the sort of parameters that have been set
for this because it's about not exceeding twenty seventeen levels
versus the current targets, which are more about cooling the planet.
Speaker 5 (07:47):
Well, I mean, well, no, the current targets are about
stopping warming to one and a half an extra one
and a half degrees, And so we're saying We're not
going to add to that at all. Is what this?
You know, this question is asked, what is the number
farmers need to achieve to say that, hey, we haven't
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added to the problem.
Speaker 2 (08:11):
You know, the farm land use changes that you've announced,
do you basically are you basically saying to farmers you
can do what you want with your land, but don't
expect carbon credits if it's productive farming land.
Speaker 5 (08:24):
That's pretty much in a nutshell.
Speaker 2 (08:26):
Yes, two hundred thousand hectares of productive sheep and beef
we've converted in the past five years. Do you have
an idea of what this change might mean for that
number going forward?
Speaker 5 (08:39):
Well, obviously it'll reduce it. Then in terms of the
exact number, No, I wouldn't have that off the top
of my head, but it would sort of. You know,
what we're seeing has been that the main driver for
a forestation has been the carbon price, and that's what's
(09:00):
driven a lot of their sales and changes of blanket
planting of farmland into forestry. And that's what's occurred. And
for a number of years now we've been hearing from
those real communities massive concern about going to the land
effectively into carbon forestry where there's no jobs, it's just
locked up and becomes a bit of a fire risk
(09:23):
and real concern to their community.
Speaker 2 (09:25):
Minister, just putting your biosecurity head on for a second.
What's the latest do you have testing results from that
second Dunedin farm that was being.
Speaker 5 (09:32):
Looked at no When I wake up, I checked my
phone and there was nothing came through overnight, So it
should be at some point we'll get the update on
all those other farms, which will give us a real
indication as to what the spread is and how quickly
we can tidy this.
Speaker 2 (09:50):
Up if it's confirmed, like if it's if it's there,
is that really bad?
Speaker 5 (09:58):
It'll depend on whether or not the So this is
the Seeking farm south of Dnean, The question in my
mind will be do we have a trace between those
two properties? Is there a link between them now? If
we can't find a link between them, and also there
is some difference in the sequencing in terms of the
(10:21):
DNA of the disease. That then adds another variable to
the resk of is there singing in the natural environment
that's causing this?
Speaker 2 (10:30):
Yeah, okay, and good to know. Andrew Haggard, thank you
very much. For your time this morning, really appreciate it.
The Associate Minister for Agriculture there on a range of
issues just gone eighteen minutes after five. I will tell
you why this particular cattle feed in the UK is
causing some consternation with consumers. They literally pouring milk down
the sink and the toilet and filming themselves doing it.
(10:50):
I don't know why you pour it down the toilet,
just like you can make the same point pouring it
down the sink and anyway. I'll tell you more about
that later on in the show. Coming up next, we
are talking our student numbers. International student numbers. They are
a big number for US, our fourth largest export earner.
But why aren't we caning it like the Aussies?
Speaker 1 (11:09):
The news you need this morning and the in depth
analysis early edition with Ryan Bridge and Fifth City, New
Zealand's Furniture Beds and a playing store News Talks.
Speaker 2 (11:19):
It'd be twenty one after five. Universities will be celebrating
the international student numbers are up seventy three thousand enrollments
between January and August this year. That's up twenty four
percent compared to the same period last year. The numbers
are up six percent on twenty twenty three totals already
still not back to pre COVID levels, though we are
seven percent shy of that. Jeff bilbra Is with Education
(11:41):
New Zealand. This is a Crown entity set up to
promote us basically as a study destination to the world. Jeff,
good morning, good morning, How are you today?
Speaker 6 (11:50):
Thanks leaving me on the show.
Speaker 2 (11:51):
Great to have you here. This is obviously a big
export earner for us. Why yes, the numbers are good,
but why aren't we back to you or doing what
the old things are doing and beating their pre COVID levels.
Speaker 6 (12:02):
Oh well, the first thing to note is that in
just two terms that we've had more enrollments than we
had in all of last year. So that's a good
thing to celebrate. Regarding the Australians, what happened and to
the Canadians to some extent, what happened during the pandemic
is both countries decided to use international students as are
economic consentive to help their economy go to economies, and
(12:25):
they both developed what were quite welcoming policies for international students.
Sadly that had not good effects in both countries. And
what we're now seen is both Canada and Australia are
bringing in caps to international students. In Canada, the student
experience was particularly poor and there were reports of students
having to use food beats and some sleeping rough and
(12:48):
in Australia they lost public support for international education. Now
we haven't had either of those experiences in New Zealand.
Our research suggests that over eighty percent of international students
rate their experience very highly, and by far the bulk
majority of New Zealand is more than seventy percent. Still
have very positive experiences and positive perceptions of New Zealand.
(13:09):
So both Australia and Canada had very welcoming policies. They
got lots of students and it's caused some problems shutting down.
Speaker 2 (13:16):
But they did get the cash too, didn't they, you know?
And that's the outside to it. I suppose will those
cats that you're talking about that Australia is going to
put in, will they benefit us?
Speaker 6 (13:27):
Absolutely? So what's happened now is that the Australian and
the Canadian policies look a lot more like us. So
if you think of it as a running race, they
might have had a bit of a head start before,
but now they're back at the starting line alongside us,
and so we're starting to see a lot of interest.
The agent networks that we have offshore teams work with
them daily. They are telling us that there's a lot
(13:49):
of interest in New Zealand. We'll do a brand health
monitor and we've just got some initial results. I can't
give you the numbers, but I can tell you that
it's positive and it looks like some of the awareness
that we're getting in some of the interests is at
the expense of the Australian So definitely it's a good
period for New Zealand. But I think we need to
recognize that the sort of the steady growth that we've
(14:09):
had over the past three years since the border has
reopened has been to the benefit of both the sector
and the students, and the sector has been able to
build their capacity back steadily and the students experience has
continued to be good through that period.
Speaker 2 (14:24):
Without a sort of rip, shit and bust thing like
Australia and Canada have done. Jeff, my words, not yours, Jeff. Jeff,
thank you very much for being on.
Speaker 6 (14:30):
The very much that right.
Speaker 2 (14:32):
Jeff Pilbre who is with Education New Zealand. It is
twenty four after five News Talks HEB the early.
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You're on News Talks HEB twenty six after five. Should
the government buy something just because it's made here in
New Zealand, even if it costs us more. That's basically
the question you've got to ask yourself after the latest
wool snub. This time it was kying of order saying
no in bold text, by the way to key, we
made woolen carpet for state houses and yes to synthetic
(15:06):
imported stuff. Why it's cheaper. We've been here before. You'll
remember the school classroom's same story. And it happens despite
a coalition agreement deal with New Zealand first ensuring where practical,
and that might be the caveat that KAO is using
here to get out of wool, that the local product
be used in government procurement and in government buildings. But Ko,
(15:28):
like a good kid in class, has been listening to
the government's main lecture, which has cut costs. Wool is
thirty percent more expensive on average, and carpets for state
houses than the nylon equivalent, But the industry says KO
and the deal could revitalize the flailing product and its fortunes.
So we have a clash of competing priorities cost versus localism.
(15:52):
The answer to the question posed at the start of
this is another question, which is never It's kind of
annoying when people do that, But here we are what
is the net benefit to New Zealand's economy as a
whole of government buying wool carpet, including the jobs that
you would create, including the spending that you would encourage,
and the increased cost of wool on the taxpayer. That
(16:15):
surely is your number. That is the number that you
would base a decision on whether to use a New
Zealand made product over a synthetic, imported equivalent. Frame Bridge
News Talk SEATB Lots more to come. We're going to
go to our US correspondence. Just before a quarter to
six this morning. There's a health boss, the guy who
(16:38):
runs one of America's largest health insurance companies, has been
shot dead in Manhattan, and they think it was a
targeted attack. So we'll find out more about that. Also,
we're going to talk beneficiaries and why they aren't being
paid the right amounts. Just before six in our lead
twenty nine after five Newstalk set b skin kind of lay,
but the ladies wasn't mind. Oh my good lord, some
(17:03):
change some I'm gonna pull me up a double shot
of whiskey. They on me a tack.
Speaker 7 (17:08):
Damn goody history.
Speaker 2 (17:10):
There's a part of downtown near Fishtry. Everybody had the
barket doumba, tell me up a duble shot of liskey.
Speaker 8 (17:19):
They're on me.
Speaker 2 (17:19):
Attacked down day that the body double man you. Everybody had,
everybody had by.
Speaker 7 (17:37):
You, everybody at.
Speaker 1 (17:38):
By the first word on the News of the Day
early edition with Ryan Bridge and Smith City, New Zealand's
Furniture Bits and a playing store. US talks in me.
Speaker 2 (17:58):
Good morning, Moselle, welcome to your day. It is the
fifth of December. Great to have your company. We're going
to a US correspondent about quarter six this morning, Cape
Fisher is standing by Racardo Me and India's march on
why beneficiaries aren't being paid what they should, some of
them resulting in debts, which is never a good thing.
Also this morning, a really interesting story from the UK.
Social media users are pouring out milk into their sincson
(18:21):
into their toilets, and filming themselves doing this. And it's
all over an additive, a cattle feed additive that reduces
methane emissions from cows. And this is something that's going
to happen more and more as countries like ours try
and reduce our impact on the climate. Blah blah blah.
Bovia is what it's called, and the consumers are going
there's a trial going on. It's made its way into
(18:44):
milk which is being sold in supermarkets over in the UK, Tescos,
et cetera. And so these consumers are seeing social media
posts about it, claiming that it's harmful to human health
and harmful to the animals, et cetera. And it's, by
the way, a product that has not been a pre
moved in New Zealand yet, so you don't have to
worry about it. But over there they are worried about it,
(19:04):
and people are pouring it into the sink and pouring
it into the toilet to make it kind of a
stand against it. It is interesting, isn't it, Because we're
going to use more and more of these technologies to
alter the behavior the natural behaviors of cows our dairy
herd to try and reduce their emissions. Basically try and
hold in a fart or a burp, which is, as
(19:25):
you and I know, never a good thing, is it,
And it doesn't feel like a healthy thing to do,
but apparently better for the planet. So anyway, there's a
bit of a tension going on. They're twenty two away
from six bird flu. We're waiting on test results in
that second farm in Otago. Andrew Hoggard, who is the
Associate Agricultural Minister, was on this show twenty minutes ago.
He said he hasn't heard anything overnight yet but Colm
(19:47):
proct isn't a needed for us this morning column. There
are answers expected on this today. Yeah, that's correct to Ryan.
Speaker 9 (19:54):
It's just exactly whether or not the second Otago farm
has bird flu among its chickens. Look, MPIs continuing to
call those eighty thousand birds at a Mainland poultry managed
monarchy farm which confirmed the disease on Sunday, and then
yesterday it halted all movements of materials from another small
farm near Dunedin after a number of chicken deaths there.
(20:15):
Mpiss that's standard biosecurity process for when unusual deaths are reported.
They say testings underway and it's not confirmed to be
part of the bird flu outbreak at this point. Mainland
Poultry is also testing all at South Island farms, with
results due next week.
Speaker 2 (20:30):
All right, how's your weather today? Got a strong win?
Watched today?
Speaker 9 (20:34):
Fine, but sol west gales gusts of one hundred k's
today for Dunedin easing this evening the high twenty two.
Speaker 2 (20:39):
All right, thank you, and clear than christ Church. Clear
it was guilty for the death of young Fai Bao.
Speaker 10 (20:46):
It certainly was. Ryan Chinese national Tindrin Chow has been
found guilty of murdering the christ Church real estate agent
and mother of one back in July of twenty twenty three.
She was last seen anti property in Hornby, where she
was meeting with Chow for a private property viewing. It
was there that the Crown said he attacked her. He
then dragged her to the boot of his car, drove
(21:07):
to the outskirts of christ Church and killed her. Her
body was found in a shallow grave on some private farmland,
but not until more than a year later Crown evidence
sowed the two phones were together on the day Bell disappeared,
including at that grave site. Their blood was also detected
at the Hornby property Chow's car. There was also DNA
found on her destroyed phone. Chow, though claimed all of
(21:30):
the evidence or much of the evidence was fake and
was not enough to persuade the jury. He will be
sentenced to a for murder on March seven.
Speaker 2 (21:38):
Sounded like a really complicated trial. How's the weather today,
c there.
Speaker 10 (21:42):
A nice day for christ Church? Fine, westerly is turning
easterly then dying out a maximum of twenty seven.
Speaker 2 (21:47):
Thank you Maxis and Wellington.
Speaker 7 (21:49):
Max.
Speaker 2 (21:49):
We're gonna be a bit of a grinch on the
staff Christmas parties for government agencies.
Speaker 7 (21:54):
Yeah, it certainly seems like going to the days of
extravagant work Christmas parties unsurprising consider during the government's instruction
to the public sector the new Ministry for Regulation, for instance,
they're asking staff to bring a plate of food themselves,
drinks provided by senior leadership. The Health Ministry doing an
in house function worth less than ten dollars per person,
(22:15):
including non alcoholic drinks and karaoke, which I'm not sure
is the right combination for late afternoon Euphoria Stafford to
a FTI spending seven dollars themselves just to attend their
own offsite party where they pay for their own drinks.
Crown Law doing something similar, And that's the sense everywhere
have scaled about Christmas. Essentially, even at n z B Wellington,
(22:36):
we're going in house a couple of free drinks here,
food three to six in the afternoon in the office.
Basically we're sorting ourselves out this Christmas.
Speaker 2 (22:44):
Yeah, the same thing here. I think I'm not even
going to go to it anymore. I can't here.
Speaker 7 (22:48):
Our big stars tend to avoid such things, don't it.
Speaker 2 (22:52):
Hey, I'm not Mike. I know, I know he won't
be going anywhere near a Christmas Paddy. I would happily go,
but I've got work and so I can't. Seven dollars
you said, one agency seven dollars for food and where
are they going? Macas well?
Speaker 7 (23:05):
Exactly? Well, I think it's just for venue higher to
cover the venue higher, and then when they're there they
pay for their own drinks and food.
Speaker 2 (23:12):
How's your were there?
Speaker 5 (23:13):
Uh?
Speaker 7 (23:13):
Cloudy with a bit of rizzulve clearing to find this
afternoon Strong Norwesteries twenty two to the High in the
central city.
Speaker 8 (23:20):
All right, Neva's and not Neva Christmas Party l starts
next week, isn't it next bright?
Speaker 2 (23:24):
No, I'm not going.
Speaker 8 (23:25):
But it's two pm or two thirty pm until four. Yes,
well that's by naptime. I cannot go.
Speaker 2 (23:31):
No, And I was going to go like I would
have gone, but I just have to do drive on
that day, so I can't go. But the thing is,
they're not what they used to be.
Speaker 11 (23:40):
No.
Speaker 2 (23:40):
It used to be about who was getting wasted and
who was sleeping with who, And that doesn't happen anymore.
Speaker 8 (23:46):
It happens from two to But the big thing is
the costumes. Everyone here go. If you don't wear a costume,
you might as.
Speaker 2 (23:56):
Well not go.
Speaker 8 (23:57):
They go burg on the costumes.
Speaker 2 (23:59):
What is there a theme?
Speaker 8 (24:00):
There is a theme.
Speaker 2 (24:01):
It's all right.
Speaker 8 (24:04):
If they do a seme, I just just rock up
in my vegetable costume or something like that. Even if
it's summertime. I'll even go drist up as a carrot.
Speaker 2 (24:13):
Speaking of summer, how is the weather in Auckland today?
Speaker 8 (24:15):
Wellhi, twenty four, hasn't it been really really hot? Muggy,
very muggy. So we've got cloudy conditions here in Auckland today.
Scattered light rain which will be welcomed. Apparently that's going
to arrive this evening, but slip slops slay up twenty
four to.
Speaker 2 (24:30):
High Tilliam never thank you very much for that's seventeen
away from six News Talks VB.
Speaker 1 (24:34):
International correspondence with Ends and Eye Insurance. Peace of mind
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Speaker 2 (24:40):
I tell you what your house is worth in just
a few moments. Just gone cowarded to six on News
Talks EDB right now though Cape Fisher, our US correspondent
is with us this morning. The CEO of United Healthcare
has been shot dead in Manhattan. The NYPD currently holding
a presser. They say this is not a random a shooting.
This appears to be a targeted a tech kate, what's
(25:02):
the lightest.
Speaker 12 (25:04):
Yeah, as you say, LISS, are about to give a
news conference in New York to get more details because
at the moment things are pretty sketchy. We know that
Brian Thompson was shot dead on the street outside the
Hilton Hotel in Midtown Manhattan just before seven am local time.
He was making his way to the hotel for an
(25:25):
investor's meeting. We're told everybody there is in shock, as
our staff of the hotel. As you say, police think
this was targeted and not something random to the Mayor
of New York, Eric Adams, has tried to reassure New
Yorkers that it is safe to be out on the streets.
But clearly a shocking occurrent to kind of seems to
(25:46):
be some sort of execution in the early hours of
this morning. He was wearing a hooded black garment and
escaped on a bike heading down an alleyway towards Central Park.
But other than that, we still don't know what the
motive could be. The police press conference is just starting
as we speak.
Speaker 2 (26:04):
Yeah, I could say they've got a fine number up
for tips, so they're obviously wanting people to dobbin what
happens and.
Speaker 12 (26:10):
A ten thousand dollars reward.
Speaker 2 (26:12):
Right, Okay, sounds quite serious. Let's go to Trump and
has picked the Secretary of Defense. There are allegations of
drinking and treatment of women. Here, is this going to
be another one that falls by the wayside.
Speaker 12 (26:24):
It's certainly looking very tense at the moment as to
whether he can hang on to this. This is Pete
heski the former Fox News presenter, but there are many
allegations about him being drunk on the job and about
potential allegations of misconduct towards women, to the extent that
Donald Trump has apparently started to look for a potential replacement,
(26:47):
including his former rival for the presidential nomination, that is
Ron DeSantis, the governor of Florida. They have had not
the closest of relationships, given that they were fighting each
other for the presidential nomination, and so it has surprised
some people that Donald Trump is looking to Ron DeSantis,
But at the moment, Pete Heskiff is still the nominee.
He's on Capitol Hill today trying to persuade some of
(27:10):
those senators who are unsure about him that he is
the man for the job. And his mother would have
even been on TV today trying to say that he
is a great guy and not to worry, even though
back in twenty eighteen she apparently emailed him and told
him he was an abuser of women. Oh yes, God
takes that back and has apologized. But you know it's
(27:32):
not looking great, no.
Speaker 2 (27:33):
And we'll never good. If you need to call your
mum up to come out and do a presser for you, Kate,
thank you for that, Kate Fisher. Are you is correspondent
to just gone twelve minutes away from six Bryan Bridge.
Shearly one and four beneficiaries are being paid incorrectly. This
according to an annual report from the Ministry for Social Development.
It found only seventy seven point six percent of clients
had their entitlement correctly assist in twenty three twenty four.
(27:55):
That is worse than the previous year's result, which was
eighty two point seven percent. Ricardom as much as the
Green Party's Sarcial Development spokesperstings with us this morning, we
kin'd of more than a good morning. Well, this is
obviously not good. And the worst part of this is
that if you're a beneficiary and you get overpaid, then
you have a debt that you have to pay back.
Speaker 11 (28:18):
Yeah, that's right. And so what often happens is that
you could be overpaid by say it could be you know,
you know, fifteen dollars each week, but that accumulates and
if MSc picks that up way later than the line,
you could end up then slat with a you know,
thousands of dollars worth of debt from overpayments for something
that wasn't really your fault. MSDY couldn't even tell us
(28:39):
that they would guarantee that if it was their fault,
they would not then slap someone with a massive death
later thunder line, that means that pushes people further down
the poverty line and in a hardship as they have
to repay it.
Speaker 2 (28:52):
The fault thing is crucial because it, as you say,
will determine who might be responsible. But isn't this just
a too hard basket thing because you've got somebody who's
working irregular hours, thereby changing what their entitlement to the
benefit might be. And every week you've got to basically
update MSD with how many hours you've worked, otherwise you'll
be overpaid.
Speaker 11 (29:14):
And part of the problem is particularly for people who
are in casual work or moving in and out of work,
is that we have an updated and haven't improved the
system that a lot of people, for example, move from
being on a benefit into part time work. And because
of the way that your benefit effectively obeys, yes, you
(29:34):
do have that moment in which it's really difficult for
a beneficiary to be adjusting those things equally. It's difficile
for the working and competitive as well.
Speaker 2 (29:42):
It's so inefficient. The whole thing sounds so inefficient. You
have to pick up the phone and ring them and
tell them what your ours are that week, what is
your solution.
Speaker 11 (29:50):
So there's two things here. If you're listed benefits above
the poverty line and a lot of people to live
with dignity work and income case managers actually wouldn't have
to spend so much time delivering things like hardship and
emergency grants. They could be focusing on the basics like
getting benefit entitlements rights.
Speaker 2 (30:06):
Yeah, but the thing is, then do also make work
look less attractive? You know what I mean?
Speaker 11 (30:11):
Well, there's no actually, there's no evidence of spaces for that.
If anything, Actually, when you have people living way below
the poverty line, you make it harder for them to
find work. That's been married and researched across many countries
where they have similar welfare systems. The other part is
that we need to make our abatement rates better. So
this is how much or you lose your benefit when
you enter work. If we make that a lot more stable,
(30:34):
it means you wouldn't have a super complicated welfare system
that even case managers at work and then come struggle
to understand RACARTDA.
Speaker 2 (30:40):
What about an app? I mean, why have these bureaucrats
not got a simple app that you can log in
and you can punch And I've done twenty seven hours
this week. Last week I did twenty six. You know,
why can't we make this simple?
Speaker 11 (30:54):
Well, part of the issue is that successive governments have
tried to make the IT systems better acquires an upfront investment,
and right now we've got a government that actually is
refusing to put enough money to update the IT systems
from working income that are frankly decades and decades old.
All right, well, you're transported to the eighties or well.
Speaker 2 (31:14):
I mean obviously the last government had the same approach,
otherwise we wouldn't still be living in the eighties. Ricardo,
thank you very much for being on the show. I
appreciate Ricarverman in India's March talking there about nearly one
in four beneficiaries being paid incorrectly. You're on news Talks,
Hebb get ahead of the headlines.
Speaker 1 (31:30):
Ryan Bridge, you for twenty twenty four on early edition
with Smith City, New Zealand's furniture bids and a playing store.
Speaker 2 (31:37):
News talk ZIDB. It is six away from six news talks. Heb.
We had Andrew Hoggart on the program just after five
this morning. He said he still hasn't had any text
updates on that second farm. This is to do with
the bird flow outbreak in Otago. He hasn't had any
updates over night on the second farm. Testing from that
farm will be crucial into how this works going forward.
He's expecting something later today. It has just gone five
(31:59):
away from six and John just talks Marke's next Good Morning, Mike.
Speaker 13 (32:03):
Isn't the saddest saddest story of the day the Christmas
parties in the public service. It's like read through the departments.
If you read through each head it is it is pathetic.
Speaker 2 (32:17):
And do you know there's a there's a social fundraising
committee for one of these departments, the Crown. Can you
imagine Debra from the Crown Laws exactly? Social committee, Jessica.
And so there's a couple of them. The best one,
and I can't remember which one it is, somebody in
management is actually buying some drinks for the staff. And
the worst one, I think is you've got to bring
(32:37):
seven dollars along. I don't know what do you I mean?
I said it is seven dollars. Then the ginger, the
giant jinger machine. I feel bad. The thing is, if
we're telling workers state employees to come back to the office,
then you have to.
Speaker 13 (32:56):
It is a funny thing, isn't it, Because I mean,
as you well know, I dislike most of the people
around here, and so therefore I don't want to be
part of a social function, so I'd be happy. But
and you can also understand, you know, given the climate,
the moment you have a party or a function, everyone goes, well,
how much does that cost?
Speaker 2 (33:10):
And have paper?
Speaker 13 (33:11):
And I get all of that, But when you read
it as this list, it's got this tragic kind of
and you can have seven dollars and this twelve dollars
for you and bring an own plate and bring your
own drink, so you turn up literally with a six pack.
Speaker 2 (33:24):
Under your arm, and some lammington thing is they probably
would The parties aren't funny anymore? Wouldn't you drink the
six beers you can have too? It's everyone's non alcoholic,
and who's no one sleeping with and anyone else? What's
the fun is that? Is that was?
Speaker 13 (33:39):
Is that what happened across where you were at the
old place.
Speaker 2 (33:43):
About It was a Cispit come Christmas.
Speaker 13 (33:49):
Anyway, Forestry conversions, big talking on that this morning, so well.
Speaker 7 (33:52):
One will deal with it too.
Speaker 2 (33:53):
Nice one. Mic is with your next Have a fantastic
Tuesday everyone. I will see you tomorrow.
Speaker 1 (34:13):
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