December 8, 2024 • 34 mins
On the Early Edition with Andrew Dickens Full Show Podcast for Monday 9th December 2024. Big developments in Syria have seen rebel forces take over the capital. Otago University Middle East Expert Dr Leon Goldsmith joins the show.
The Greens have released their emissions reduction plan - will it ever be put in place? Party MP Steve Abel has the details.
Not a great day for Liam Lawson on the race track as a decision on his furure looms and Tom Blundell hits a ton despite the Black Caps loosing - Elliott Smith has your weekend sport wrap.
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Speaker 1 (00:02):
The issue, the Interviews US and the Inside. Andrew Dickens
on the early edition with Smith City, New Zealand's furniture
beds and apply at store News Talks, it'd be that's good.
Speaker 2 (00:16):
Morning to you and welcome to the program. It is
the ninth of December. It's Monday. I'm Andrew Dickens in
for Ryan Bridge, who will be on air later today.
You wait, you'll find out on the program today the
fall of Asad and the so called liberation of Syria.
Lean Goldsmith from Otaga University joins us just before six.
Did Tom Blundell save a spot in the Black Caps
(00:37):
with yesterday's ton and did Liam Lawson do enough? Elliott
Smith on Sport shortly, Gavin Gray from the UK's A
vicious storm bears down and the Greens have released their
admissions plans as Steve Abel from the party joins me
very very shortly. You can text me ninety two ninety two.
You can email Dickens at News Talks here b dot
co dot m zaire. Good morning to you and welcome
to your Monday. So the big story of the President's
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palace in Damascus has been stormed by rebel troops as
Basha al Asad flees the country. The situation in.
Speaker 3 (01:10):
The last twenty four hours has moved so rapidly as
the rebels advanced both from Drai in the south and
from Homps in the north to close in on the capitol.
And it's very clear that the Syrian army had no
stomach for this fight. They'd defected, they had surrendered, they retreated.
Speaker 2 (01:27):
They got the hell out of had dodge, that's for sure.
So we'll have more in the situation in Syria. Just
after five thirty, just before the six Scott News, New
York police have released new photos of the suspected gunmen
who killed United Healthcare chief executive Brian Thompson. No, they
haven't found him yet. It shows the man in the
back of a taxi wearing a hoodie and a face mask.
The FBI is now offering a eighty five thousand dollars
(01:50):
reward for information leading to his Arrests to Korea and
public anger and protests have followed the failed vote to
impeach South Korea's president, and after aote martial law in
the middle of the night the other day, the ruling
party leader says the president, however, will be suspended.
Speaker 3 (02:08):
The People Power Party will pursue an orderly departure of
the presidents in order to minimize confusion for the people.
Speaker 4 (02:16):
Ah.
Speaker 2 (02:16):
Yeah. Unfortunately, only one hundred and ninety five members of
the Parliament attended the vote, and that was five less
than was required. And meanwhile, in Paris for the opening
of the Notre Dame, Vladimir Zelonsky has been talking and
in an a rare update, he's told reporters that forty
three thousand soldiers have been killed in its war with Russia.
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That's forty three thousand. He claims that one hundred and
ninety eight thousand Russian troops had died remembered. Neither figure
has had an independent confirmation and the last time Zelonsky
gave such a death toll update was in February on.
Speaker 1 (02:53):
Your Radio and online on iHeartRadio Early Edition with Andrew
Dickens and Smith City Zeeland's furniture beds and applying store
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Speaker 2 (03:02):
That'd be so look at the Syrian opposition fighters have
captured the capitol Damascus. They've declared victory on state television.
Russia says Basha al Aasad has left the country and
given orders for a peaceful transition. He's given up. His
whereabouts are unknown, which is a good thing for him,
because as soon as they're known, he won't be much longer.
Opposition groups have declared a curfew where people are celebrating
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in the streets. The curfew runs from four o'clock in
the afternoon until five in the morning. Opposition leader Abu
Mohammad al Julani says all state institutions will remain under
the supervision of Alissad's Prime minister until they're handed over officially.
We've got crowds of refugees abroad celebrating Alissad's fall and
planning to return home for the first time eight years.
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You've got to say, clever, old rebels. You know, they
took a fifty year old dictatorship completely by surprise. It
took the whole world by surprise. We were all looking elsewhere.
We're looking down in Lebanon, we're looking down in Gaza,
and suddenly, what's happening up north? Oh, look at that.
They just waltz their way through and they are now
the new boss. And so the question for the world,
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to quote the band the Who, when we meet the
new boss, will they be the same as the old boss.
Is this rarely a liberation of Syria? Or you were
out of the frying panel into the fire. Well, Doctor
Leam Goldsmith is the Otago University Professor for Middle Eastern
and Comparative Politics. That's a very long business card. It
was a very long sentence his title. He's going to
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tin me just before six to talk about it now,
Andrew Diggins, I gotta talk about question of the day
for you. Are the boot camps are debacle after the
absconding of two of their members, pretty full on absconding
to be fair, when were talking car chases and machetes
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and balaclavas and cops and spikes, and I guess it
shows just how criminal these youth offenders are. I think
it also shows just how expensive and difficult it will
be to get a positive result out of the process.
It took generations to make these toe rags. It's going
to take years to reform them. So my question for
you is is it worth it? Do the boot camps work?
Will they work? But then again, you got all these
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camps like Chippy and everybody shouting, oh you've got to
abandon the boot camps. But what alternative Are they offering
what we've always done before? So your thoughts you can
text me ninety two ninety two. Steve Abel on the
Green Plan is next here on news Talks THEREB.
Speaker 1 (05:30):
Andrew Dickens on the early edition with Smith City, New
Zealand's Furniture Beds and Appliant Store.
Speaker 2 (05:36):
News Talks it B, it's good boarding to you. It
is now fourteen minutes after five. The Greens have launched
their alternative Missions Reduction Plan. It says the plan would
more than double our current work to curb climate change.
Agriculture will be part of the admissions trading scheme again,
and a new Ministry of Green Works will be established
to work on renewable infrastructure, and the plan will be
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key in their next pre election pitch to voters. And
Steve Abel as a Green Party MP and our spokesperson,
this morning. Good morning to you, Steve.
Speaker 5 (06:06):
Good morning, Andrew.
Speaker 2 (06:07):
I'm good. Taught me quickly through the plan bullet points.
Speaker 5 (06:12):
Basically, in simple terms, I'd say it's a blueprint for
how we decarbonize all the different sectors of society and
the economy, and it takes on the important task of
working out how we practically do a lot of that stuff.
The current government plan is not on track to achieve
our later targets and will struggle to meet the current ones.
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And this one will increase our reductions by five times
what this government will achieve, not to mention the fact,
basically because we'll properly invest in what is necessary to
reduce our missions and think of it as a whole.
Speaker 2 (06:53):
I've read the report. Where do you get the number from?
Because it's very low on great details, and it somehow
you've said this will be five times better.
Speaker 5 (07:00):
Because if you model things like lowering the cap ponds
that an ocean fertilizer for example, and ariculture promini dairy farming,
you finally get quite substantial cuts and emissions. If you
probably electrify our transport fleet, for example, and one of
the big opportunities we have in designers. We have already
a big renewable creen energy electricity system. If we grow
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the size of that electricity system, then use a lot
of that additional energy for electrifying transport from trains to
buses to cars, get huge cuts in the amount of
emissions we're currently producing.
Speaker 2 (07:35):
And that's true. And you say, if you grow the
electricity system. But reading the plan, the plan targets areas
like justice and the treaty, improving the emission training scheme,
and also sustainable land use, but there's very little. In fact,
there's only really a sentence on how you're going to
extend power generation. Surely the key to fighting pollution and
climate change is green power generation, so why no detail
(07:58):
on that?
Speaker 5 (08:00):
So we've done more substantial detail in the past. A
twenty two election campaign, we had the Clean Power Payment,
which was a massive investment in solarization, distribute solarization, which
allowed households to lower their energy bills through investing in
solar and batteries and put it in public money to
support that. They happen up to a thirty thousand dollars
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gram for each household. And those sorts of substantial invested
investments start shifting the nature of the grid. They start
allowing us to actually get that overbuild of electricity that
we need to do close to.
Speaker 2 (08:34):
Elect Absolutely, that's so the key because currently, you know,
we need coal for ten percent of our power, and
if you take the ten percent off, if you came
into power and said, right, that's it, no more coal
because coal's dirty and Yucky, that's ten percent. That's our economy.
That's ten percent of the powering of our economy, and
so you have to be able to replace that power
or are you telling us are you telling us that
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if the Green's got into charge and did this, we
would take a hit and have less power.
Speaker 5 (09:01):
Absolutely not of its exactly opposite. And Genesis Energy, for example,
who won the Hartly power station is said the future
of that power source is biomass. We have this phenomenal
resource in biomass, meaning the residue pine waste that we
have in our current system which currently ends up washing
down as slash into our rivers, that could be used
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in many industries that are observing that that could be
used to be converted into woody bio mass that could
be burned instead of coal. So those are the sorts
of opportunities that we have that aren't being exploited currently,
and we will reinvest the money that we get from
the emissions trading scheme into supporting industry to make those decarbonization choices.
Speaker 2 (09:42):
Steve, thank you for joining us this morning. And hey,
by the way, Mery Christmas. It is now eighteen minutes
after five. Text through is a pity the rebels didn't
capture a side. Now you'll be hiding out in Russia.
That's true, Jack, Thank you for your texts. Someone else
is the name book Camp needs to be changed. Typical
of Labor to sit back and complain, because, after all,
what did they do for these kids? What has anybody
done for these kids? Maybe these kids are proving to
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us that this is a big job. It's not oh,
do a boot cap, that'll sort them out. It's a big,
big job. As I said before, it's taken generations to
create these kids. Do you think he can fix them
just like that? Anyway? Lee goes on to say, if
Labor gets away, we stop this effort to help some
of these kids, and they just go back to the
street and keep reoffending. And Lee makes a great point,
these are not cute little boys. These are dangerous, unfeeling
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people and will just continue doing what they have done
and what they do best. Ninety two ninety two is
the text. Tom Blundell got a lot of stick before
this test and then he went and did a ton
We'll talk about Tom Blundell and Liam Lawson in a
moment with Elliot Smith the News.
Speaker 1 (10:45):
You need this Morning and the in depth analysis early
edition with Andrew Dickens and Smith City New Zealand's furniture
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Speaker 2 (10:54):
Be bye twenty one Elliott Smith. How are you?
Speaker 6 (10:56):
I'm good, Andrew.
Speaker 2 (10:57):
So two men with a lot of challenges in front
of them. The first I'm going to talk about Tom
Blundele because of course, if you remember last week, everyone's going,
you know, he's catching the ball, but he ain't hitting
the ball, and he turns around and bit he's the
only one who got a century.
Speaker 6 (11:10):
Well, he's the only one that got the century. I mean,
how much do you take out of it? Though it
was a game that was already lost. I suppose you've
got to get the runs at some point, but there
wasn't a lot of pressure necessarily the chasing. We were
chasing five hundred and sixty seven to win the match
and the game was gone, so there wasn't really a
lot of pressure. I mean, perhaps internally felt a bit
of pressure to retain this place in the team. But
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you know, I suppose you've got to get the runs
when they're on off it and you suggested that would
save his spot for the Third Test against England.
Speaker 2 (11:38):
I know what about Devin Conway though, I mean, well,
I think, please, it's been a bad year.
Speaker 6 (11:43):
I feel sorry for him a little bit because he
just looks out of him. He just, you know, he
was so magnificent when he came in. He got runs
for fun at a certain point, he got two hundred
against England over in England, and he was developing into
one of the best openers in the world at a
certain point in time. But now I just can't buy
looks completely shot of confidence. And this player that you know,
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we were so excited to have a couple of years ago.
I think it would be cruel to put them in
the team for him, which and I think they should
make a change, put Will Young or someone else in
the top because we're really you know, and there's so
little Test cricket next year for the black Caps. He's
got four scheduled, it'll probably end up being seven in
the end. But I think it is time to look
at other options. And you know this, you can't paper
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over cracks with one hundred from Blundle papers over that
crack and allows them to continue combat at the top.
I think there's time for some serious change at the top.
Of the black Caps order.
Speaker 2 (12:35):
Okay, yeah, well I was so looking forward to the series.
Speaker 6 (12:38):
So that three nil whitewash in India, which did really
come out of nowhere because the black Cap said, to
be honest, been on a downwards trajectory for a couple
of years. That that pete massive peak out of nowhere
to go on an Indie your win three nil, but
then to come back to New Zealand your own conditions
and just be completely outplayed by England comprehensively, you know,
the test inside over inside the three days real disappointment.
Speaker 2 (13:00):
Cricket tragics as well, because you watch the New Zealand
tiest and then immediately after this the day night at Adelaide,
and then I watched that last night and watched India fail.
So maybe we went so good. India is just really
bad at the moment.
Speaker 6 (13:12):
But they just went out and beat Australia that the
previous week as well, and we're won up in the
series and smoked them.
Speaker 2 (13:16):
So another fellow fighting for his position as Liam Lawson,
did he do enough at other duty?
Speaker 6 (13:21):
Well, I didn't finish, so I don't think it's a
good start. Necessarily hit some pedishues early on engine parted
out on the final lap of the race as well,
was probably going to finish about sixteenth. In the end,
this is going to be fascinating decision. It's going to
come to a head in the coming days. In the
next forty eight seventy two hours, we're going to know
where Lee Lawson sits, because that's the end of his
current deal contract with his team, and there's all sorts
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of machinations around where he fits in next year. Hasn't
set the world on fire necessarily, but they've often viewed
him as a long term project at that team, haven't they.
Speaker 2 (13:51):
Well, they've been with him for a very long time.
They've invested a lot of money. They want someone to
support Max Vstappan. I need someone who can actually, you know,
walk the walk, and he can walk it. I mean
he drives with his elbows out, he doesn't take a
backward step. Ferlando Alonso right at the very beginning, gave
him a bit of addressing down. He dressed him right back.
Speaker 4 (14:12):
You know. It's right.
Speaker 2 (14:12):
So he's got the attitude, and he's got the ability,
and he is young, and they've spent the money and
I think perhaps believing that that that Cola Pinto might
come in has been has been or somebody else has
been premature. I think I think he's got it.
Speaker 6 (14:25):
Well, yeah, it depends how much they stock they put
in those that pack of sex races that he's done now,
or whether it's that long term project. Now, we've seen
enough from you over the last four or five years
in our system to go now you're our guy for
twenty twenty five. Not on the basis of what he's done,
you know, this morning in Abadhabi, last week, et cetera,
et cetera. I think that long term project probably hands
him and better sted than some of the other competing drivers.
Speaker 2 (14:46):
Configued stuff Elliott lovely to see you early in the
morning and Marry christ Is to you as well.
Speaker 1 (14:51):
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It By News Talks.
Speaker 4 (14:56):
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Speaker 2 (14:58):
This News Talks b five twenty seven. I'mandrew Dickens's cabinet
today and the promise this week is that we're going
to get a ferry plan. Apparently there might be an
announcement on Wednesday. So it's been a year since Nicola
Willis pulled the plug on the Kiwi Rail's ferry plan
and it wasn't because the fairies were so expensive. In fact,
the Fairies were a really good deal. It was because
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of the cost of the port side developments. And I
think this is something that gets lost in the whole
debate when we talk about, Oh, it's the big chips,
it's the big ships. No, the ships weren't the problem. Really,
the misconception is that the cost was blowing out because
the Fairies were bigger than our previous fleet. So the
biggest factor in the cost blowout was the relocation and
the rebuilding of both the Kiwi Rail and Blue Bridge
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ferries to get them out of an earthquake zone. There
was also the need for the new port to have
considerable earthquake strengthening. Look where the Wellington port is and
how far away it is from the main fault line
up Tenakorey Street, right, you need to earthquake strengthen this.
Our ports at the moment fall down and they did
last what time during a kaikura, So there's the need
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for a considerable earthquake strengthening. Kiwi Rail also wanted a
gold plated faery terminal which would last long term, so
that you walk into it and it's like wow, This
is amazing, that's what they wanted. And then finally, on
top of that, the ports needed to be a bit longer.
So from what I've heard so far, it seems as
though the government will pick up some second hand boats
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which actually had more life after them than before them.
But that's what happens when you pick up a second
hand boat. But that's not really an issue unless, of course,
they start falling apart as soon as we get them.
So when we look at this plan that comes out
this week, we need to be looking at the port
rather than the boats. Will it be relocated, will it
be strong enough to bear up to the inevitable earthquake,
will the terminal be comfy or will the terminal be
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a chili shed? And how much do you want to
spend on this? Kiwi Rail was arrogant thinking that the
government would provide them with their billions on the essay,
so a blank check. But so the government wasn't long
to say tyhoe. But the government now has to prove
that their plan is not just a second hand option
that will continue to provide headaches in the years to
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come because the indisputable factors we are a country that's
mostly spread over two islands with twenty six miles of
very treacherous water between them, and so the infrastructure that
connects the two of us together is absolutely one hundred
percent critical. So let's see what this plan is coming
out on Wednesday. We hope now still to come with
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right around the country with our reporters everywhere. We're going
to look at the serious situation with a fealla from
Otago University. My name is Andrew Dickens and for Ryan Bridge,
Verry Christmas.
Speaker 1 (17:48):
The first word on the News of the Day Early
edition with Andrew Dickens and Smith City, New Zealand's Furniture
Beds and Appliant Store. You talk sippy.
Speaker 2 (18:06):
Here's a man who's on holiday after making an awful
lot of money. Chris Martin Cold Play. His daughter was
in the DEBUTMP Ball of New York the other week,
and Crystal looked very fine, all dressed up in a suit.
He danced with his daughter, who's very beautiful, just like
her mother. Gwyneth Moses. The brother was there too, anyway,
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Still to come on the program today, Syria meets the
new boss. Are they going to be any better than
the old bus? We're going to find out from Liam
Goldsmith Gavin Gray from the UK very shortly, big storm
bearing down on the UK and we're runing around New
Zealand at a second. The boot camps people will be
talking about this. By the way, Heathers doing the Breakfast
show today and we were talking about this before we
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came into the show. As Graham writes to me, why
are you focusing on the two toe rags from the
boot camp? Why don't you look at the successful outcomes?
This is a typical Kiwi knocking machine problem, has Graham.
This is also fresh that all we have is to failure.
We don't have two successes yet because it takes a
while to actually turn these people around. And I've been
saying this all morning. It takes a while to turn
these people around. It's going to be expensive. Ah Ruth
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writes Andrew. Chloe and Chippy should be don't you love
New Zealand? It's so casual. Chloe and Chippy should be
ashamed of themselves with their public pronouncements on the condemnation
of the kids from the boot camps. These kids literally
have no one in their corner giving them hope that
they can change. And now we even have people who
are meant to be leaders in our community. Piling in
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change for these kids is very hard to make it against
the background of massive dysfunction. It will take time, It
will take people who keep on believing in their ability
to change. There's been no time yet. But on the money.
Just one other text. If we could only have the
kind of funding that these kids are getting with the
boot camps in our schools because we need wrap around
services for all our kids with fetal alcohol syndrome, dix slexia, trauma,
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meth dependent parents, speech delays, ADHD autism. Instead, next year
classes will be bigger with no funding for teacher assistance.
So it's where you get the best bang for your buck.
It is twenty one to six around the country. Callum
Proctor from Dunedin. Helle Callum morning Andrew. There's a dneed
and bar drop Kicks. It's being discussed in council.
Speaker 7 (20:18):
Why well, the District Licensing Committee is actually meeting to
discuss its new unlicensed application.
Speaker 5 (20:26):
Look.
Speaker 7 (20:26):
Dropkicks is the former Captain Cook Hotel, the famous soul
Dnedin pub and its application has in fact been opposed
by a couple of groups, one the Students for Sensible
Drug policy or to Porty, also the father of deceased
university student here Sophia Christani, that opposition all stems from
the venue actually actively promoting itself to students before it
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had even had approval. The owners in their application, they
say their vision is to create a space where music
lovers and the community can come together safely.
Speaker 2 (20:55):
When you have a bar that had a name as
good and as legendary as Captain Cook, why would you
want to change it to a name like Dropkicks. I
don't know how's your weather?
Speaker 7 (21:05):
Fine but isolated? Shellers a fresh westerly today, the high twenty.
Speaker 2 (21:09):
And I thank you so Now to Christian Jamie Cunningham.
Good morning, morning. It's hot and there are tougher fire
restrictions coming.
Speaker 8 (21:16):
Yes well obviously. Firefighters have been battling a nine hundred
and eighty hectar wildfire in the Southern Alp since Thursday morning,
with a smaller blaze cropping up near Kerwee over the weekend.
Now last night a number of West Melton residents were
evacuated due to a larger vegetation fire growing in the
really strong winds. Four helicopters are due in the air
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at first light, which will give fire crews a more
accurate picture of the blazer's size. District Commanded Dave Stackhouse
sees the monitoring weather stations and reviewing the region's fire
status today. He sees both Canterbury and South Canterbury's restrictions
will probably increase to require permits.
Speaker 2 (21:54):
And is there rain today in that irony or not?
Speaker 8 (21:58):
No, it's looking like a nice say it's fine with
northwesterlies which will ease this evening in a high of
twenty five.
Speaker 2 (22:05):
I'm sorry to will until we go. Max Toll, Hello,
good morning. We've got the decision on the new fairies
this week.
Speaker 9 (22:13):
Yeah, well you said it all about ten minutes ago.
This has been something of a saga for the Capital.
Labor signed up to what became a very expensive deal
at least in National's eyes, to build new fairies and
ports in government. National pretty quickly abandoning that, but with
the Intero Island of Fleet getting very old and prone
to glitches, National but under pressure for some time to
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reveal what they're going to do instead, and that decision
expected this week by Wednesday. It may even come sooner.
While we are going to get new fairies, we believe
it's just a question of how rail compatible they'll be.
It would be possible to run these boats into the ground.
No pun intended for the rest of the decade, but
all the advice is for the checkbook to come out.
Rail compatible essentially means fairies are able to carry railway vehicle,
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which in turn would mean a fewer trucks on the
road more a few lesser freight costs. That will be
the big thing to look out for this week.
Speaker 2 (23:09):
That's the theory, Max. The reality is often quite different,
and they won't be new theories, they'll be secondhand ferries.
But there we go. How's Shelly. How's your weather today?
Speaker 9 (23:17):
New second hand, fairly rang, early rain, severe winds twenty
one the high Central.
Speaker 2 (23:22):
Thank you so much and thank you for a great test.
Not okay, Niva Rittamano joins us now Hella Neva, Good morning, Andrew.
Police have arrested five people. And these are these dirt
bikers that are all the range these days.
Speaker 10 (23:33):
It's right now. Look yesterday up to one hundred rute bikers.
Now they were spotted. They were driving dangerously across southeast Auckland.
And you're quite right. What we do know is that
police have arrested five so far. So now this group,
they were seen running red lights, riding on the wrong
side of the road, breaking the speed limit, and the
list goes on. A witness told our newsroom that many
of the riders they were doing wheel stands. Then they
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were also weaving across two lanes of the Waipoona Bridge.
So yeah, Lisa are expecting, they're on the case. They're
on the case, and they're expecting to make further arrest
on this whole incident.
Speaker 2 (24:05):
For those people who don't know about aucands dirt bikes,
these are provided by the gangs to get the kids
into motorbikes and then of course later when they grow up,
they move into the Harley Davidson's I've been driving on
the Southern Motorway and seeing a crowd of thirty seeing them.
Oh yeah, I've seen thirty kids on dirt bikes going
the wrong way down the motorway and then going the
wrong way up and off. Ram was it recently?
Speaker 6 (24:27):
Did you say?
Speaker 2 (24:27):
This is this is last summer?
Speaker 4 (24:29):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (24:29):
Flipping there, It's amazing. You know, they are a scourge.
Speaker 10 (24:32):
But Skurge Skoirge on society, how's Orkin's weather isolated showers
turning to rain this afternoon, possibly heavy easing late evening.
Twenty threes are high here in Auckland.
Speaker 2 (24:44):
So we're talking all about the weather, and the weather's
bad in the UK. In fact, people are being told
to stay at home. Gavin Gray from the UK with
the details.
Speaker 1 (24:52):
Next international correspondence with ends and eye insurance, peace of
mind for New Zealand business.
Speaker 2 (24:59):
It's into six. Kevin Great from the UK, goobording to you.
Oh he's on the phone. Excuse me, I'll just addswer
the phone.
Speaker 11 (25:07):
Hello, Gvin Hiler Andrew Hi.
Speaker 1 (25:09):
Mate.
Speaker 2 (25:10):
So every the week in UK authority said stay at home.
So how because the weather was going to be so bad?
So was it so bad? And did everyone stay at home?
Speaker 1 (25:19):
Well?
Speaker 11 (25:19):
I know not everyone did, of course, people can't cancel
the travel plans. Travel was in absolute chaos, as you
can imagine. This was the fourth name storm that the winter.
It has claimed that we know at least two lives.
Some gusts up to almost one hundred miles an hour,
so you're looking one hundred and fifty kilometers an hour
were recorded on Saturday and then again early Sunday morning.
(25:41):
The deaths were in the northwest of England in Lancashire,
when a tree fell onto a vehicle and a man
in his late forties died. There was another death in
the West Midlands, same thing, a separate into of somebody
driving and a tree falling on them. The gusts have
slightly died down. But the problem now is this storm
with the strong winds was a company a lot of rain,
(26:01):
and indeed the previous named storm had only just left
the country, so the soil is really really soggy already,
and I'm afraid now there is a big danger of flooding.
There are some fifty four flood warnings for riverside communities
in England alone, and that means that flooding is likely.
And in Wales where I'm talking to you from this morning,
(26:24):
the ground really really wet. There are lots of tree
surgeons out trying to keep the roads open. As I said,
the winds have died down. The big, big risk now
is all the water that is collecting and going down
into the river.
Speaker 2 (26:36):
And indeed there's a change. Really. I never used to
remember England flooding and now you do.
Speaker 11 (26:42):
Yeah, yeah, And you know, more development of course, and
more people and therefore a bigger demand on the services
and also fewer places for the water to seek down
into the soil.
Speaker 2 (26:53):
All right, let's go to the Netherlands where there was
an explosion at a block of flats. So tell me
about that story.
Speaker 11 (26:59):
Yeah, was in the Hague and at least five people
have died four others have been injured. Now, this was
an explosion of a block of flats. It's a three
story building and it is said that there were up
to twenty people in the flats at the time. That
would mean therefore that eleven or more are missing, and
(27:20):
that's the big concern. There is so much debris around
the place, Andrew that the big crane has been brought
in to try and get lift off these huge blocks.
But there is a big concern this death toll will
increase significantly. Now at the moment, the authorities are not
saying what they believe to be the cause. However, one
eyewitness describes a car driving off at very high speed
(27:42):
shortly before the explosion. That that is an unconfirmed report.
But yeah, we believe there to be at least five
flats that have been completely destroyed in this explosion, which
has left a lot of debry for the authorities to
try to get through. But I'm afraid more and more
this is proving and I think not to be a
rescue operation. If there are more bodies under there, this
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is proven to be a recovery operation.
Speaker 2 (28:05):
Kevin Great from the UK, I thank you so much.
It is eleven to six. Andrew Dicks, Well, it's a
route the sad Assad families. Decades long rain in Syria
came to an abrupt end over the weekend when rebel
forces captured Damascus. It was a stunning lightning strike route
right across the country. Russian officials have said that Alasade
has fled the country. They've called for a peaceful transition
(28:28):
of power. So to talk about this, we are now
joined by doctor Leon Goldsmith, who works at the Ottaga
University professor for Middle Eastern and Comparative Politics. Welcome to
the program, Leon.
Speaker 4 (28:38):
Good morning.
Speaker 2 (28:39):
Yes, it seems pretty definitive. It's happened, hasn't it. And
was it a surprise?
Speaker 4 (28:45):
Well, I think it was. I think it was a
bit of a shark in terms of just how hollow
this regime was after like fifty years of iron forested
rule in the heart of the Middle East. I thinks
are in a state of euphoria as of last night,
(29:07):
that they can't quite believe that that this regime was gone.
It's quite quite a cataclysmic its yes, it.
Speaker 2 (29:15):
Is, and it's almost like an alisad who fought against
us for so long and so hard, then took some
time off and just lost the will.
Speaker 4 (29:25):
Well, I think what's happened is over in the last
four years, he's actually lost his main support base of
loyalists within the country, and I think there was a
growing sense that what they had fought for there was
no victory vivid and for all of the sacrifices that
had supporters had made, and they were suffering more than
(29:46):
ever under his rule, and he didn't seem to care.
Speaker 2 (29:49):
The other thing, of course, is that his major allies
that were helping to fund him are helping to weaponize him.
Of course, Russia and Iran, they've got their own problems
and so they he was a bit abandoned.
Speaker 4 (29:58):
Yeah, No, he was extremely vulnerable and exposed in terms
of the Russian support that the Russians have been there
since the fifties, and Iran has been a major batter
of the regime since the eighties. So this is a
fundamental change of the regional order as well, in terms
of the main sort of power balance in the region
as well. It's going to be a lot of change.
Speaker 2 (30:20):
Yeah, of course. Now here's the thing. Meet the new boss.
Is it the same as the old boss? What do
we know about the rebel forces? Is actually a liberation?
Are these guys good guys?
Speaker 4 (30:30):
Yeah? And I said this is this is the once
the euphoria in itial euphorias sort of dies down in
the business of trying to see what a new Syria
is going to look like. But I think we have
to understand that jelani Or is going by his birth
name now Athland Sharh. He's not isis Kaida anymore. In fact,
I'll see a lot of what he's doing has been
(30:51):
a sort of antithetical to their extreme ast failures. But
at the same time, he is not someone that most
Syrians actually, despite the fact that the appreciate what's happened
in terms of the liberation of the country, would want
to see as kind of someone adopting a powerful position.
I think what you're going to see is a much
broader effort to try and coordinate an inclusive government, and
(31:15):
I think that's what we're seeing in the early stages.
We're seeing a very orderly transition. We're seeing a lot
of the existing institutions remaining in place. The promise that
Javali Sad has gone. We don't know exactly where he's gone.
There's rumors that he may even be have died in
a plane crash or something like that. But I think
that we shouldn't jump to conclusions. That's what I'm saying.
(31:38):
This is not This is not the same as Culliband
takeover in Afghanistan, for example.
Speaker 2 (31:44):
Yeah, no, no, that's good. Could it's not going to
be as bad as we might imagine, But then again
it might not be as good as that we might hope.
Speaker 4 (31:52):
Well, that's why I well think it's very important to
keep in mind. It wasn't just HTS liberated Syria over
the last eleven days, so free Cerian army element from
the from the south and from the from the east,
also just ordinary Syrians rising up on their towns and villages,
(32:13):
overthrowing the local Bartist forces, and it's a it's a
much broader coalition general Syrian uprising and overthrowing off of
this regime.
Speaker 2 (32:25):
Good stuff, Leon Goldsworth, I thank you for your time today.
Speaker 1 (32:28):
Get ahead of the headlines. Andrew Diggins on early edition
with slic City, New Zealand's furniture beds and a playing
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Speaker 2 (32:36):
It'd be so, Luke writes, the terrorist is a trustworthy one, right,
how many terrorists do you ever know?
Speaker 4 (32:42):
That? Ever?
Speaker 2 (32:43):
Trustworthy? There we go and Dale rights, you do know
that it's been reported that de Sard's plan is crashed.
He is dead. Well, no, it's been reported, but that
doesn't necessarily mean it actually happened. Yes, there are reports
that might have crashed. We'll find out. So that's because
it disappeared off the radar, isn't it that's true? But
did it crash, We'll find it. Don't show me his head,
Hey the duper See Alan is doing the breakfast, Say
good morning.
Speaker 12 (33:03):
Good morning.
Speaker 2 (33:03):
You'll be talking Syria.
Speaker 12 (33:05):
Yeah, we're going to talk about Syria because I mean, look,
everybody's happy to see the back of a sad right obviously,
because he's not a particularly cool dude. But the question,
of course is who comes in and replaces him. And
it's not clear that these lot, this lot is going
to be that great either because hts. I don't know
if you're aware of it, but they actually have originally
ties with ISIS.
Speaker 2 (33:22):
Yes, so that that Jilaney. We just had a fellow
on who said, Jelaney claims he's not ISIS anymore. I said,
can you just pick and choose?
Speaker 3 (33:28):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (33:29):
Cool, because you.
Speaker 12 (33:29):
Just saw It's one of those things you sort of
dip in and out of in your life. You know,
a bit ISIS, but about out of ISIS again.
Speaker 2 (33:35):
Camps those absconders really absconded with, you know, machetes and
balaclavas and then you can't chase them and all that
sort of thing. And now half the world is going
got to stop the boot camps. The other half is saying,
got to wait to see, Yeah, what do you reckon?
Speaker 12 (33:47):
Well, I'm a little bit on the side of actually,
why are we shutting the boot camps? Because these toe
rags have behaved exactly like we thought that they would behave.
I mean, it's not the boot camps that made them
jump into the car with each other and a couple
of other dudes, grab a machete and then to take off.
Speaker 2 (34:02):
So who's going to talk to about this?
Speaker 12 (34:03):
Fellow Riley now full O'Riley, former Boss of Business New Zealand,
was actually involved with the last iteration of the boot
camps that John Key had underway, so he will have
a view of how it works on whether it's actually.
Speaker 4 (34:13):
Successful or not.
Speaker 2 (34:14):
Heather Gat You're your day out. I will, oh will,
I'll be back again tomorrow, see you tomorrow, see you all.
Thank you to Leo.
Speaker 1 (34:27):
For more from Early Edition with Ryan Bridge. Listen live
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Speaker 2 (00:16):
Morning to you and welcome to the program. It is
the ninth of December. It's Monday. I'm Andrew Dickens in
for Ryan Bridge, who will be on air later today.
You wait, you'll find out on the program today the
fall of Asad and the so called liberation of Syria.
Lean Goldsmith from Otaga University joins us just before six.
Did Tom Blundell save a spot in the Black Caps
(00:37):
with yesterday's ton and did Liam Lawson do enough? Elliott
Smith on Sport shortly, Gavin Gray from the UK's A
vicious storm bears down and the Greens have released their
admissions plans as Steve Abel from the party joins me
very very shortly. You can text me ninety two ninety two.
You can email Dickens at News Talks here b dot
co dot m zaire. Good morning to you and welcome
to your Monday. So the big story of the President's
(01:02):
palace in Damascus has been stormed by rebel troops as
Basha al Asad flees the country. The situation in.
Speaker 3 (01:10):
The last twenty four hours has moved so rapidly as
the rebels advanced both from Drai in the south and
from Homps in the north to close in on the capitol.
And it's very clear that the Syrian army had no
stomach for this fight. They'd defected, they had surrendered, they retreated.
Speaker 2 (01:27):
They got the hell out of had dodge, that's for sure.
So we'll have more in the situation in Syria. Just
after five thirty, just before the six Scott News, New
York police have released new photos of the suspected gunmen
who killed United Healthcare chief executive Brian Thompson. No, they
haven't found him yet. It shows the man in the
back of a taxi wearing a hoodie and a face mask.
The FBI is now offering a eighty five thousand dollars
(01:50):
reward for information leading to his Arrests to Korea and
public anger and protests have followed the failed vote to
impeach South Korea's president, and after aote martial law in
the middle of the night the other day, the ruling
party leader says the president, however, will be suspended.
Speaker 3 (02:08):
The People Power Party will pursue an orderly departure of
the presidents in order to minimize confusion for the people.
Speaker 4 (02:16):
Ah.
Speaker 2 (02:16):
Yeah. Unfortunately, only one hundred and ninety five members of
the Parliament attended the vote, and that was five less
than was required. And meanwhile, in Paris for the opening
of the Notre Dame, Vladimir Zelonsky has been talking and
in an a rare update, he's told reporters that forty
three thousand soldiers have been killed in its war with Russia.
(02:37):
That's forty three thousand. He claims that one hundred and
ninety eight thousand Russian troops had died remembered. Neither figure
has had an independent confirmation and the last time Zelonsky
gave such a death toll update was in February on.
Speaker 1 (02:53):
Your Radio and online on iHeartRadio Early Edition with Andrew
Dickens and Smith City Zeeland's furniture beds and applying store
youth talks.
Speaker 2 (03:02):
That'd be so look at the Syrian opposition fighters have
captured the capitol Damascus. They've declared victory on state television.
Russia says Basha al Aasad has left the country and
given orders for a peaceful transition. He's given up. His
whereabouts are unknown, which is a good thing for him,
because as soon as they're known, he won't be much longer.
Opposition groups have declared a curfew where people are celebrating
(03:24):
in the streets. The curfew runs from four o'clock in
the afternoon until five in the morning. Opposition leader Abu
Mohammad al Julani says all state institutions will remain under
the supervision of Alissad's Prime minister until they're handed over officially.
We've got crowds of refugees abroad celebrating Alissad's fall and
planning to return home for the first time eight years.
(03:44):
You've got to say, clever, old rebels. You know, they
took a fifty year old dictatorship completely by surprise. It
took the whole world by surprise. We were all looking elsewhere.
We're looking down in Lebanon, we're looking down in Gaza,
and suddenly, what's happening up north? Oh, look at that.
They just waltz their way through and they are now
the new boss. And so the question for the world,
(04:08):
to quote the band the Who, when we meet the
new boss, will they be the same as the old boss.
Is this rarely a liberation of Syria? Or you were
out of the frying panel into the fire. Well, Doctor
Leam Goldsmith is the Otago University Professor for Middle Eastern
and Comparative Politics. That's a very long business card. It
was a very long sentence his title. He's going to
(04:30):
tin me just before six to talk about it now,
Andrew Diggins, I gotta talk about question of the day
for you. Are the boot camps are debacle after the
absconding of two of their members, pretty full on absconding
to be fair, when were talking car chases and machetes
(04:50):
and balaclavas and cops and spikes, and I guess it
shows just how criminal these youth offenders are. I think
it also shows just how expensive and difficult it will
be to get a positive result out of the process.
It took generations to make these toe rags. It's going
to take years to reform them. So my question for
you is is it worth it? Do the boot camps work?
Will they work? But then again, you got all these
(05:13):
camps like Chippy and everybody shouting, oh you've got to
abandon the boot camps. But what alternative Are they offering
what we've always done before? So your thoughts you can
text me ninety two ninety two. Steve Abel on the
Green Plan is next here on news Talks THEREB.
Speaker 1 (05:30):
Andrew Dickens on the early edition with Smith City, New
Zealand's Furniture Beds and Appliant Store.
Speaker 2 (05:36):
News Talks it B, it's good boarding to you. It
is now fourteen minutes after five. The Greens have launched
their alternative Missions Reduction Plan. It says the plan would
more than double our current work to curb climate change.
Agriculture will be part of the admissions trading scheme again,
and a new Ministry of Green Works will be established
to work on renewable infrastructure, and the plan will be
(05:58):
key in their next pre election pitch to voters. And
Steve Abel as a Green Party MP and our spokesperson,
this morning. Good morning to you, Steve.
Speaker 5 (06:06):
Good morning, Andrew.
Speaker 2 (06:07):
I'm good. Taught me quickly through the plan bullet points.
Speaker 5 (06:12):
Basically, in simple terms, I'd say it's a blueprint for
how we decarbonize all the different sectors of society and
the economy, and it takes on the important task of
working out how we practically do a lot of that stuff.
The current government plan is not on track to achieve
our later targets and will struggle to meet the current ones.
(06:34):
And this one will increase our reductions by five times
what this government will achieve, not to mention the fact,
basically because we'll properly invest in what is necessary to
reduce our missions and think of it as a whole.
Speaker 2 (06:53):
I've read the report. Where do you get the number from?
Because it's very low on great details, and it somehow
you've said this will be five times better.
Speaker 5 (07:00):
Because if you model things like lowering the cap ponds
that an ocean fertilizer for example, and ariculture promini dairy farming,
you finally get quite substantial cuts and emissions. If you
probably electrify our transport fleet, for example, and one of
the big opportunities we have in designers. We have already
a big renewable creen energy electricity system. If we grow
(07:23):
the size of that electricity system, then use a lot
of that additional energy for electrifying transport from trains to
buses to cars, get huge cuts in the amount of
emissions we're currently producing.
Speaker 2 (07:35):
And that's true. And you say, if you grow the
electricity system. But reading the plan, the plan targets areas
like justice and the treaty, improving the emission training scheme,
and also sustainable land use, but there's very little. In fact,
there's only really a sentence on how you're going to
extend power generation. Surely the key to fighting pollution and
climate change is green power generation, so why no detail
(07:58):
on that?
Speaker 5 (08:00):
So we've done more substantial detail in the past. A
twenty two election campaign, we had the Clean Power Payment,
which was a massive investment in solarization, distribute solarization, which
allowed households to lower their energy bills through investing in
solar and batteries and put it in public money to
support that. They happen up to a thirty thousand dollars
(08:20):
gram for each household. And those sorts of substantial invested
investments start shifting the nature of the grid. They start
allowing us to actually get that overbuild of electricity that
we need to do close to.
Speaker 2 (08:34):
Elect Absolutely, that's so the key because currently, you know,
we need coal for ten percent of our power, and
if you take the ten percent off, if you came
into power and said, right, that's it, no more coal
because coal's dirty and Yucky, that's ten percent. That's our economy.
That's ten percent of the powering of our economy, and
so you have to be able to replace that power
or are you telling us are you telling us that
(08:55):
if the Green's got into charge and did this, we
would take a hit and have less power.
Speaker 5 (09:01):
Absolutely not of its exactly opposite. And Genesis Energy, for example,
who won the Hartly power station is said the future
of that power source is biomass. We have this phenomenal
resource in biomass, meaning the residue pine waste that we
have in our current system which currently ends up washing
down as slash into our rivers, that could be used
(09:22):
in many industries that are observing that that could be
used to be converted into woody bio mass that could
be burned instead of coal. So those are the sorts
of opportunities that we have that aren't being exploited currently,
and we will reinvest the money that we get from
the emissions trading scheme into supporting industry to make those decarbonization choices.
Speaker 2 (09:42):
Steve, thank you for joining us this morning. And hey,
by the way, Mery Christmas. It is now eighteen minutes
after five. Text through is a pity the rebels didn't
capture a side. Now you'll be hiding out in Russia.
That's true, Jack, Thank you for your texts. Someone else
is the name book Camp needs to be changed. Typical
of Labor to sit back and complain, because, after all,
what did they do for these kids? What has anybody
done for these kids? Maybe these kids are proving to
(10:05):
us that this is a big job. It's not oh,
do a boot cap, that'll sort them out. It's a big,
big job. As I said before, it's taken generations to
create these kids. Do you think he can fix them
just like that? Anyway? Lee goes on to say, if
Labor gets away, we stop this effort to help some
of these kids, and they just go back to the
street and keep reoffending. And Lee makes a great point,
these are not cute little boys. These are dangerous, unfeeling
(10:28):
people and will just continue doing what they have done
and what they do best. Ninety two ninety two is
the text. Tom Blundell got a lot of stick before
this test and then he went and did a ton
We'll talk about Tom Blundell and Liam Lawson in a
moment with Elliot Smith the News.
Speaker 1 (10:45):
You need this Morning and the in depth analysis early
edition with Andrew Dickens and Smith City New Zealand's furniture
bids and applying store news Talk said.
Speaker 2 (10:54):
Be bye twenty one Elliott Smith. How are you?
Speaker 6 (10:56):
I'm good, Andrew.
Speaker 2 (10:57):
So two men with a lot of challenges in front
of them. The first I'm going to talk about Tom
Blundele because of course, if you remember last week, everyone's going,
you know, he's catching the ball, but he ain't hitting
the ball, and he turns around and bit he's the
only one who got a century.
Speaker 6 (11:10):
Well, he's the only one that got the century. I mean,
how much do you take out of it? Though it
was a game that was already lost. I suppose you've
got to get the runs at some point, but there
wasn't a lot of pressure necessarily the chasing. We were
chasing five hundred and sixty seven to win the match
and the game was gone, so there wasn't really a
lot of pressure. I mean, perhaps internally felt a bit
of pressure to retain this place in the team. But
(11:32):
you know, I suppose you've got to get the runs
when they're on off it and you suggested that would
save his spot for the Third Test against England.
Speaker 2 (11:38):
I know what about Devin Conway though, I mean, well,
I think, please, it's been a bad year.
Speaker 6 (11:43):
I feel sorry for him a little bit because he
just looks out of him. He just, you know, he
was so magnificent when he came in. He got runs
for fun at a certain point, he got two hundred
against England over in England, and he was developing into
one of the best openers in the world at a
certain point in time. But now I just can't buy
looks completely shot of confidence. And this player that you know,
(12:04):
we were so excited to have a couple of years ago.
I think it would be cruel to put them in
the team for him, which and I think they should
make a change, put Will Young or someone else in
the top because we're really you know, and there's so
little Test cricket next year for the black Caps. He's
got four scheduled, it'll probably end up being seven in
the end. But I think it is time to look
at other options. And you know this, you can't paper
(12:26):
over cracks with one hundred from Blundle papers over that
crack and allows them to continue combat at the top.
I think there's time for some serious change at the top.
Of the black Caps order.
Speaker 2 (12:35):
Okay, yeah, well I was so looking forward to the series.
Speaker 6 (12:38):
So that three nil whitewash in India, which did really
come out of nowhere because the black Cap said, to
be honest, been on a downwards trajectory for a couple
of years. That that pete massive peak out of nowhere
to go on an Indie your win three nil, but
then to come back to New Zealand your own conditions
and just be completely outplayed by England comprehensively, you know,
the test inside over inside the three days real disappointment.
Speaker 2 (13:00):
Cricket tragics as well, because you watch the New Zealand
tiest and then immediately after this the day night at Adelaide,
and then I watched that last night and watched India fail.
So maybe we went so good. India is just really
bad at the moment.
Speaker 6 (13:12):
But they just went out and beat Australia that the
previous week as well, and we're won up in the
series and smoked them.
Speaker 2 (13:16):
So another fellow fighting for his position as Liam Lawson,
did he do enough at other duty?
Speaker 6 (13:21):
Well, I didn't finish, so I don't think it's a
good start. Necessarily hit some pedishues early on engine parted
out on the final lap of the race as well,
was probably going to finish about sixteenth. In the end,
this is going to be fascinating decision. It's going to
come to a head in the coming days. In the
next forty eight seventy two hours, we're going to know
where Lee Lawson sits, because that's the end of his
current deal contract with his team, and there's all sorts
(13:42):
of machinations around where he fits in next year. Hasn't
set the world on fire necessarily, but they've often viewed
him as a long term project at that team, haven't they.
Speaker 2 (13:51):
Well, they've been with him for a very long time.
They've invested a lot of money. They want someone to
support Max Vstappan. I need someone who can actually, you know,
walk the walk, and he can walk it. I mean
he drives with his elbows out, he doesn't take a
backward step. Ferlando Alonso right at the very beginning, gave
him a bit of addressing down. He dressed him right back.
Speaker 4 (14:12):
You know. It's right.
Speaker 2 (14:12):
So he's got the attitude, and he's got the ability,
and he is young, and they've spent the money and
I think perhaps believing that that that Cola Pinto might
come in has been has been or somebody else has
been premature. I think I think he's got it.
Speaker 6 (14:25):
Well, yeah, it depends how much they stock they put
in those that pack of sex races that he's done now,
or whether it's that long term project. Now, we've seen
enough from you over the last four or five years
in our system to go now you're our guy for
twenty twenty five. Not on the basis of what he's done,
you know, this morning in Abadhabi, last week, et cetera,
et cetera. I think that long term project probably hands
him and better sted than some of the other competing drivers.
Speaker 2 (14:46):
Configued stuff Elliott lovely to see you early in the
morning and Marry christ Is to you as well.
Speaker 1 (14:51):
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It By News Talks.
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This News Talks b five twenty seven. I'mandrew Dickens's cabinet
today and the promise this week is that we're going
to get a ferry plan. Apparently there might be an
announcement on Wednesday. So it's been a year since Nicola
Willis pulled the plug on the Kiwi Rail's ferry plan
and it wasn't because the fairies were so expensive. In fact,
the Fairies were a really good deal. It was because
(15:18):
of the cost of the port side developments. And I
think this is something that gets lost in the whole
debate when we talk about, Oh, it's the big chips,
it's the big ships. No, the ships weren't the problem. Really,
the misconception is that the cost was blowing out because
the Fairies were bigger than our previous fleet. So the
biggest factor in the cost blowout was the relocation and
the rebuilding of both the Kiwi Rail and Blue Bridge
(15:42):
ferries to get them out of an earthquake zone. There
was also the need for the new port to have
considerable earthquake strengthening. Look where the Wellington port is and
how far away it is from the main fault line
up Tenakorey Street, right, you need to earthquake strengthen this.
Our ports at the moment fall down and they did
last what time during a kaikura, So there's the need
(16:05):
for a considerable earthquake strengthening. Kiwi Rail also wanted a
gold plated faery terminal which would last long term, so
that you walk into it and it's like wow, This
is amazing, that's what they wanted. And then finally, on
top of that, the ports needed to be a bit longer.
So from what I've heard so far, it seems as
though the government will pick up some second hand boats
(16:26):
which actually had more life after them than before them.
But that's what happens when you pick up a second
hand boat. But that's not really an issue unless, of course,
they start falling apart as soon as we get them.
So when we look at this plan that comes out
this week, we need to be looking at the port
rather than the boats. Will it be relocated, will it
be strong enough to bear up to the inevitable earthquake,
will the terminal be comfy or will the terminal be
(16:48):
a chili shed? And how much do you want to
spend on this? Kiwi Rail was arrogant thinking that the
government would provide them with their billions on the essay,
so a blank check. But so the government wasn't long
to say tyhoe. But the government now has to prove
that their plan is not just a second hand option
that will continue to provide headaches in the years to
(17:09):
come because the indisputable factors we are a country that's
mostly spread over two islands with twenty six miles of
very treacherous water between them, and so the infrastructure that
connects the two of us together is absolutely one hundred
percent critical. So let's see what this plan is coming
out on Wednesday. We hope now still to come with
(17:31):
right around the country with our reporters everywhere. We're going
to look at the serious situation with a fealla from
Otago University. My name is Andrew Dickens and for Ryan Bridge,
Verry Christmas.
Speaker 1 (17:48):
The first word on the News of the Day Early
edition with Andrew Dickens and Smith City, New Zealand's Furniture
Beds and Appliant Store. You talk sippy.
Speaker 2 (18:06):
Here's a man who's on holiday after making an awful
lot of money. Chris Martin Cold Play. His daughter was
in the DEBUTMP Ball of New York the other week,
and Crystal looked very fine, all dressed up in a suit.
He danced with his daughter, who's very beautiful, just like
her mother. Gwyneth Moses. The brother was there too, anyway,
(18:27):
Still to come on the program today, Syria meets the
new boss. Are they going to be any better than
the old bus? We're going to find out from Liam
Goldsmith Gavin Gray from the UK very shortly, big storm
bearing down on the UK and we're runing around New
Zealand at a second. The boot camps people will be
talking about this. By the way, Heathers doing the Breakfast
show today and we were talking about this before we
(18:49):
came into the show. As Graham writes to me, why
are you focusing on the two toe rags from the
boot camp? Why don't you look at the successful outcomes?
This is a typical Kiwi knocking machine problem, has Graham.
This is also fresh that all we have is to failure.
We don't have two successes yet because it takes a
while to actually turn these people around. And I've been
saying this all morning. It takes a while to turn
these people around. It's going to be expensive. Ah Ruth
(19:11):
writes Andrew. Chloe and Chippy should be don't you love
New Zealand? It's so casual. Chloe and Chippy should be
ashamed of themselves with their public pronouncements on the condemnation
of the kids from the boot camps. These kids literally
have no one in their corner giving them hope that
they can change. And now we even have people who
are meant to be leaders in our community. Piling in
(19:31):
change for these kids is very hard to make it against
the background of massive dysfunction. It will take time, It
will take people who keep on believing in their ability
to change. There's been no time yet. But on the money.
Just one other text. If we could only have the
kind of funding that these kids are getting with the
boot camps in our schools because we need wrap around
services for all our kids with fetal alcohol syndrome, dix slexia, trauma,
(19:56):
meth dependent parents, speech delays, ADHD autism. Instead, next year
classes will be bigger with no funding for teacher assistance.
So it's where you get the best bang for your buck.
It is twenty one to six around the country. Callum
Proctor from Dunedin. Helle Callum morning Andrew. There's a dneed
and bar drop Kicks. It's being discussed in council.
Speaker 7 (20:18):
Why well, the District Licensing Committee is actually meeting to
discuss its new unlicensed application.
Speaker 5 (20:26):
Look.
Speaker 7 (20:26):
Dropkicks is the former Captain Cook Hotel, the famous soul
Dnedin pub and its application has in fact been opposed
by a couple of groups, one the Students for Sensible
Drug policy or to Porty, also the father of deceased
university student here Sophia Christani, that opposition all stems from
the venue actually actively promoting itself to students before it
(20:47):
had even had approval. The owners in their application, they
say their vision is to create a space where music
lovers and the community can come together safely.
Speaker 2 (20:55):
When you have a bar that had a name as
good and as legendary as Captain Cook, why would you
want to change it to a name like Dropkicks. I
don't know how's your weather?
Speaker 7 (21:05):
Fine but isolated? Shellers a fresh westerly today, the high twenty.
Speaker 2 (21:09):
And I thank you so Now to Christian Jamie Cunningham.
Good morning, morning. It's hot and there are tougher fire
restrictions coming.
Speaker 8 (21:16):
Yes well obviously. Firefighters have been battling a nine hundred
and eighty hectar wildfire in the Southern Alp since Thursday morning,
with a smaller blaze cropping up near Kerwee over the weekend.
Now last night a number of West Melton residents were
evacuated due to a larger vegetation fire growing in the
really strong winds. Four helicopters are due in the air
(21:37):
at first light, which will give fire crews a more
accurate picture of the blazer's size. District Commanded Dave Stackhouse
sees the monitoring weather stations and reviewing the region's fire
status today. He sees both Canterbury and South Canterbury's restrictions
will probably increase to require permits.
Speaker 2 (21:54):
And is there rain today in that irony or not?
Speaker 8 (21:58):
No, it's looking like a nice say it's fine with
northwesterlies which will ease this evening in a high of
twenty five.
Speaker 2 (22:05):
I'm sorry to will until we go. Max Toll, Hello,
good morning. We've got the decision on the new fairies
this week.
Speaker 9 (22:13):
Yeah, well you said it all about ten minutes ago.
This has been something of a saga for the Capital.
Labor signed up to what became a very expensive deal
at least in National's eyes, to build new fairies and
ports in government. National pretty quickly abandoning that, but with
the Intero Island of Fleet getting very old and prone
to glitches, National but under pressure for some time to
(22:35):
reveal what they're going to do instead, and that decision
expected this week by Wednesday. It may even come sooner.
While we are going to get new fairies, we believe
it's just a question of how rail compatible they'll be.
It would be possible to run these boats into the ground.
No pun intended for the rest of the decade, but
all the advice is for the checkbook to come out.
Rail compatible essentially means fairies are able to carry railway vehicle,
(23:00):
which in turn would mean a fewer trucks on the
road more a few lesser freight costs. That will be
the big thing to look out for this week.
Speaker 2 (23:09):
That's the theory, Max. The reality is often quite different,
and they won't be new theories, they'll be secondhand ferries.
But there we go. How's Shelly. How's your weather today?
Speaker 9 (23:17):
New second hand, fairly rang, early rain, severe winds twenty
one the high Central.
Speaker 2 (23:22):
Thank you so much and thank you for a great test.
Not okay, Niva Rittamano joins us now Hella Neva, Good morning, Andrew.
Police have arrested five people. And these are these dirt
bikers that are all the range these days.
Speaker 10 (23:33):
It's right now. Look yesterday up to one hundred rute bikers.
Now they were spotted. They were driving dangerously across southeast Auckland.
And you're quite right. What we do know is that
police have arrested five so far. So now this group,
they were seen running red lights, riding on the wrong
side of the road, breaking the speed limit, and the
list goes on. A witness told our newsroom that many
of the riders they were doing wheel stands. Then they
(23:55):
were also weaving across two lanes of the Waipoona Bridge.
So yeah, Lisa are expecting, they're on the case. They're
on the case, and they're expecting to make further arrest
on this whole incident.
Speaker 2 (24:05):
For those people who don't know about aucands dirt bikes,
these are provided by the gangs to get the kids
into motorbikes and then of course later when they grow up,
they move into the Harley Davidson's I've been driving on
the Southern Motorway and seeing a crowd of thirty seeing them.
Oh yeah, I've seen thirty kids on dirt bikes going
the wrong way down the motorway and then going the
wrong way up and off. Ram was it recently?
Speaker 6 (24:27):
Did you say?
Speaker 2 (24:27):
This is this is last summer?
Speaker 4 (24:29):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (24:29):
Flipping there, It's amazing. You know, they are a scourge.
Speaker 10 (24:32):
But Skurge Skoirge on society, how's Orkin's weather isolated showers
turning to rain this afternoon, possibly heavy easing late evening.
Twenty threes are high here in Auckland.
Speaker 2 (24:44):
So we're talking all about the weather, and the weather's
bad in the UK. In fact, people are being told
to stay at home. Gavin Gray from the UK with
the details.
Speaker 1 (24:52):
Next international correspondence with ends and eye insurance, peace of
mind for New Zealand business.
Speaker 2 (24:59):
It's into six. Kevin Great from the UK, goobording to you.
Oh he's on the phone. Excuse me, I'll just addswer
the phone.
Speaker 11 (25:07):
Hello, Gvin Hiler Andrew Hi.
Speaker 1 (25:09):
Mate.
Speaker 2 (25:10):
So every the week in UK authority said stay at home.
So how because the weather was going to be so bad?
So was it so bad? And did everyone stay at home?
Speaker 1 (25:19):
Well?
Speaker 11 (25:19):
I know not everyone did, of course, people can't cancel
the travel plans. Travel was in absolute chaos, as you
can imagine. This was the fourth name storm that the winter.
It has claimed that we know at least two lives.
Some gusts up to almost one hundred miles an hour,
so you're looking one hundred and fifty kilometers an hour
were recorded on Saturday and then again early Sunday morning.
(25:41):
The deaths were in the northwest of England in Lancashire,
when a tree fell onto a vehicle and a man
in his late forties died. There was another death in
the West Midlands, same thing, a separate into of somebody
driving and a tree falling on them. The gusts have
slightly died down. But the problem now is this storm
with the strong winds was a company a lot of rain,
(26:01):
and indeed the previous named storm had only just left
the country, so the soil is really really soggy already,
and I'm afraid now there is a big danger of flooding.
There are some fifty four flood warnings for riverside communities
in England alone, and that means that flooding is likely.
And in Wales where I'm talking to you from this morning,
(26:24):
the ground really really wet. There are lots of tree
surgeons out trying to keep the roads open. As I said,
the winds have died down. The big, big risk now
is all the water that is collecting and going down
into the river.
Speaker 2 (26:36):
And indeed there's a change. Really. I never used to
remember England flooding and now you do.
Speaker 11 (26:42):
Yeah, yeah, And you know, more development of course, and
more people and therefore a bigger demand on the services
and also fewer places for the water to seek down
into the soil.
Speaker 2 (26:53):
All right, let's go to the Netherlands where there was
an explosion at a block of flats. So tell me
about that story.
Speaker 11 (26:59):
Yeah, was in the Hague and at least five people
have died four others have been injured. Now, this was
an explosion of a block of flats. It's a three
story building and it is said that there were up
to twenty people in the flats at the time. That
would mean therefore that eleven or more are missing, and
(27:20):
that's the big concern. There is so much debris around
the place, Andrew that the big crane has been brought
in to try and get lift off these huge blocks.
But there is a big concern this death toll will
increase significantly. Now at the moment, the authorities are not
saying what they believe to be the cause. However, one
eyewitness describes a car driving off at very high speed
(27:42):
shortly before the explosion. That that is an unconfirmed report.
But yeah, we believe there to be at least five
flats that have been completely destroyed in this explosion, which
has left a lot of debry for the authorities to
try to get through. But I'm afraid more and more
this is proving and I think not to be a
rescue operation. If there are more bodies under there, this
(28:03):
is proven to be a recovery operation.
Speaker 2 (28:05):
Kevin Great from the UK, I thank you so much.
It is eleven to six. Andrew Dicks, Well, it's a
route the sad Assad families. Decades long rain in Syria
came to an abrupt end over the weekend when rebel
forces captured Damascus. It was a stunning lightning strike route
right across the country. Russian officials have said that Alasade
has fled the country. They've called for a peaceful transition
(28:28):
of power. So to talk about this, we are now
joined by doctor Leon Goldsmith, who works at the Ottaga
University professor for Middle Eastern and Comparative Politics. Welcome to
the program, Leon.
Speaker 4 (28:38):
Good morning.
Speaker 2 (28:39):
Yes, it seems pretty definitive. It's happened, hasn't it. And
was it a surprise?
Speaker 4 (28:45):
Well, I think it was. I think it was a
bit of a shark in terms of just how hollow
this regime was after like fifty years of iron forested
rule in the heart of the Middle East. I thinks
are in a state of euphoria as of last night,
(29:07):
that they can't quite believe that that this regime was gone.
It's quite quite a cataclysmic its yes, it.
Speaker 2 (29:15):
Is, and it's almost like an alisad who fought against
us for so long and so hard, then took some
time off and just lost the will.
Speaker 4 (29:25):
Well, I think what's happened is over in the last
four years, he's actually lost his main support base of
loyalists within the country, and I think there was a
growing sense that what they had fought for there was
no victory vivid and for all of the sacrifices that
had supporters had made, and they were suffering more than
(29:46):
ever under his rule, and he didn't seem to care.
Speaker 2 (29:49):
The other thing, of course, is that his major allies
that were helping to fund him are helping to weaponize him.
Of course, Russia and Iran, they've got their own problems
and so they he was a bit abandoned.
Speaker 4 (29:58):
Yeah, No, he was extremely vulnerable and exposed in terms
of the Russian support that the Russians have been there
since the fifties, and Iran has been a major batter
of the regime since the eighties. So this is a
fundamental change of the regional order as well, in terms
of the main sort of power balance in the region
as well. It's going to be a lot of change.
Speaker 2 (30:20):
Yeah, of course. Now here's the thing. Meet the new boss.
Is it the same as the old boss? What do
we know about the rebel forces? Is actually a liberation?
Are these guys good guys?
Speaker 4 (30:30):
Yeah? And I said this is this is the once
the euphoria in itial euphorias sort of dies down in
the business of trying to see what a new Syria
is going to look like. But I think we have
to understand that jelani Or is going by his birth
name now Athland Sharh. He's not isis Kaida anymore. In fact,
I'll see a lot of what he's doing has been
(30:51):
a sort of antithetical to their extreme ast failures. But
at the same time, he is not someone that most
Syrians actually, despite the fact that the appreciate what's happened
in terms of the liberation of the country, would want
to see as kind of someone adopting a powerful position.
I think what you're going to see is a much
broader effort to try and coordinate an inclusive government, and
(31:15):
I think that's what we're seeing in the early stages.
We're seeing a very orderly transition. We're seeing a lot
of the existing institutions remaining in place. The promise that
Javali Sad has gone. We don't know exactly where he's gone.
There's rumors that he may even be have died in
a plane crash or something like that. But I think
that we shouldn't jump to conclusions. That's what I'm saying.
(31:38):
This is not This is not the same as Culliband
takeover in Afghanistan, for example.
Speaker 2 (31:44):
Yeah, no, no, that's good. Could it's not going to
be as bad as we might imagine, But then again
it might not be as good as that we might hope.
Speaker 4 (31:52):
Well, that's why I well think it's very important to
keep in mind. It wasn't just HTS liberated Syria over
the last eleven days, so free Cerian army element from
the from the south and from the from the east,
also just ordinary Syrians rising up on their towns and villages,
(32:13):
overthrowing the local Bartist forces, and it's a it's a
much broader coalition general Syrian uprising and overthrowing off of
this regime.
Speaker 2 (32:25):
Good stuff, Leon Goldsworth, I thank you for your time today.
Speaker 1 (32:28):
Get ahead of the headlines. Andrew Diggins on early edition
with slic City, New Zealand's furniture beds and a playing
store youth talks.
Speaker 2 (32:36):
It'd be so, Luke writes, the terrorist is a trustworthy one, right,
how many terrorists do you ever know?
Speaker 4 (32:42):
That? Ever?
Speaker 2 (32:43):
Trustworthy? There we go and Dale rights, you do know
that it's been reported that de Sard's plan is crashed.
He is dead. Well, no, it's been reported, but that
doesn't necessarily mean it actually happened. Yes, there are reports
that might have crashed. We'll find out. So that's because
it disappeared off the radar, isn't it that's true? But
did it crash, We'll find it. Don't show me his head,
Hey the duper See Alan is doing the breakfast, Say
good morning.
Speaker 12 (33:03):
Good morning.
Speaker 2 (33:03):
You'll be talking Syria.
Speaker 12 (33:05):
Yeah, we're going to talk about Syria because I mean, look,
everybody's happy to see the back of a sad right obviously,
because he's not a particularly cool dude. But the question,
of course is who comes in and replaces him. And
it's not clear that these lot, this lot is going
to be that great either because hts. I don't know
if you're aware of it, but they actually have originally
ties with ISIS.
Speaker 2 (33:22):
Yes, so that that Jilaney. We just had a fellow
on who said, Jelaney claims he's not ISIS anymore. I said,
can you just pick and choose?
Speaker 3 (33:28):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (33:29):
Cool, because you.
Speaker 12 (33:29):
Just saw It's one of those things you sort of
dip in and out of in your life. You know,
a bit ISIS, but about out of ISIS again.
Speaker 2 (33:35):
Camps those absconders really absconded with, you know, machetes and
balaclavas and then you can't chase them and all that
sort of thing. And now half the world is going
got to stop the boot camps. The other half is saying,
got to wait to see, Yeah, what do you reckon?
Speaker 12 (33:47):
Well, I'm a little bit on the side of actually,
why are we shutting the boot camps? Because these toe
rags have behaved exactly like we thought that they would behave.
I mean, it's not the boot camps that made them
jump into the car with each other and a couple
of other dudes, grab a machete and then to take off.
Speaker 2 (34:02):
So who's going to talk to about this?
Speaker 12 (34:03):
Fellow Riley now full O'Riley, former Boss of Business New Zealand,
was actually involved with the last iteration of the boot
camps that John Key had underway, so he will have
a view of how it works on whether it's actually.
Speaker 4 (34:13):
Successful or not.
Speaker 2 (34:14):
Heather Gat You're your day out. I will, oh will,
I'll be back again tomorrow, see you tomorrow, see you all.
Thank you to Leo.
Speaker 1 (34:27):
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