Lady Tureiti Moxon: Managing Director of Te Kōhao Health on Treaty Principles Bill hearing

Oral hearings for the treaty principles bill get underway today, marking the start of 80 hours worth of hearings over the course of a month.

Author of the bill and Act party leader David Seymour will be the first to give his submission later this morning. A total of 50 oral submissions will be heard on day one.

Managing Director of Te Kōhao Health Lady Tureiti Moxon says she thinks the bill should be rejected and opposed by the select committee.

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
Well. Oral hearings for the Treaty Principal's Bill get underway today,
marking the start of eighty hours worth of hearings over
the course of a month. The total number of online
submissions received isn't known yet as processing continues. Author of
the bill and AT Party leader David Seymour will be
the first to give his submission later this morning. A
total of fifty oral submissions will be heard on day one.

(00:23):
Lady Turditi Moxon is the managing director of tair Kahual
Health and we'll be speaking at Parliament later this morning.
And she joins me, now, a very good morning to.

Speaker 2 (00:32):
You, very good morning to you too.

Speaker 1 (00:35):
Look, thanks so much for getting up early in joining us.
What are you expecting today? How are you expecting things
to go?

Speaker 2 (00:42):
Well? I think it should go pretty smoothly. I think
they've got a lot to do. But our submission is
basically we're saying what what we believe needs to happen
in terms of this bill and the fact that we
reject it, both reject and oppose.

Speaker 1 (00:58):
It's been a heck of a process, hasn't How have
you found the process to get to this point?

Speaker 2 (01:05):
Well, it has been a heck of a process, and
the worst of it is there's a waste of time
simply because labor are sorry national and and you said
the first have both said that they won't they weren't,
they weren't supported beyond this process. How ridiculous is that?
Why would you put us through that process? Is that

(01:26):
if you have no intention of supporting it going forward.
So you know, we're pleased about that, don't get me wrong,
but I'm sure we could be spending a lot of that.
All that money and all that time and resource aren't
better things?

Speaker 1 (01:41):
Okay, well, there's a fair point. I think you're making
a good point. So what is the point and you
making a submission today with a bill that's going nowhere.

Speaker 2 (01:50):
Well, simply because we must be heard. And you'll find
that the other people behind me, or forty nine other
people behind me will feel the same way. And you know,
you've got to remember too that we had the largest
protests in the country in terms of the Treaty Principles bill,

(02:12):
and so you know, forty two thousand people got out
and spoke to their feet. So you know, I actually
think that there.

Speaker 3 (02:21):
Is it's important to be able to say to them
and all of those yet to come in our future
that we try to do something.

Speaker 1 (02:33):
Do you think it, Well, look, it's a fair point,
and I think a lot of people would love to
be there listening to what's going on, or maybe not.
Do you think do you think there was widely a
misinterpretation of what the treaty Principal's Bill was wanting to achieve.
Do you think it was widely misunderstood by the majority
of people?

Speaker 2 (02:51):
Well, I think for a lot number of people who
do not understand what the treaty means and have nounderstanding
of what history history of this country is or even
the plight of Mardi in our country, I would say, very,
very categorically, there's a lot of people who have put

(03:13):
in submissions, will have submitted have a misunderstanding of what
it means.

Speaker 1 (03:19):
I know you're going to be speaking very early this morning.
I think you're on at eight thirty this morning, aren't you.

Speaker 2 (03:24):
That's correct?

Speaker 1 (03:25):
Yes, Can you give us a little bit of a
taster about what you'll be saying.

Speaker 2 (03:29):
Well, definitely, I'll be saying that we rejected and opposed
the at the and also I think that that it
should be rejected and opposed by the Select Committee. But
more over than that than not, I really think that
that you know that this is a breach of the

(03:51):
three too white tonguey and and it will and it
will be a breach forever no matter how they try
to reinterpret the principles and pretty basically take over from
the courts. You know, there's a difference between the courts
interpreting this, you know, the principles from the acts. You know,

(04:18):
government react ax and the court's interpret the acts and
the police enforce the acts. So here we are we've
got a government trying to do both.

Speaker 1 (04:30):
Lady Turdyt Moxham, thank you so much for your time
and all the very best this morning. And it's an
early start your submission at eight thirty this morning. Thanks
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