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Speaker 1 (00:01):
The issues is the interviews and the insight. Andrew Dickens
on early edition with one roof make your Property search simple,
News Talks.
Speaker 2 (00:11):
It'd be.
Speaker 3 (00:13):
Welcome morning to you. It's a new day, it's a
new week and time Ed Dickens. And in the next
hour the second phase of the Royal Commission into COVID
gets under way today. How is it different and can
you get involved? We'll have that story in five minutes time.
We've got Andrew Ortison in in about ten to talk
sport and it's all about the football ukp and Tony
Blair has branded the current Prime Minister here as an
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out of touch human rights lawyer. So what's to fall out?
Gavin Gray from the UK just for five point thirty
and it's on the tariff war starts between the States,
Mexico and Canada. What should New Zealand do. We'll have
that story for you just between just before the news
at six. We'll have news as it breaks. We'll have
news from around the world, corresponders from around the world
and correspondence from around New Zealand. If you want to
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talk to me about stuff, you can text Meek ninety
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really lay into me about stuff, you can email Dickens
and news talk zebb dot co dot.
Speaker 1 (01:07):
Nz the agenda.
Speaker 3 (01:11):
It is seven after five. It's Monday, the third of February.
It's my father's birthday. Canada has announced reluctant retaliatory tariffs
against the United States, just hours after President Donald Trump
ordered his promise tariffs on Canada, Mexico and China. Trudeau
responded with a twenty five percent tariff on one hundred
and fifty five billion dollars of US goods, and the
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tariff's come into effect tomorrow. Trudeau says Canada did not
ask for this.
Speaker 4 (01:37):
The President Trump wants to usher in a new golden
age for the United States. It's a better power is
to partner with Canada after punishment.
Speaker 3 (01:48):
Meanwhile, Ontario, the state has responded with a punishment of
its own. Premier Doug Ford has announced the province will
no longer sell us booze. So Jack's off, No Jack
Daniels off in Canada, No Jack, and Canada now to Australia.
One person has died in Townsville's flooding emergency. Police have
announced a sixty three year old woman died while trying
to escape the floods. Six suburbs have been evacuated as
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some areas received half of Townsville's annual rainfall in just
twenty four hours. Back home, the government's expanding the range
of sanctions included. It has beneficiary traffic light system and scheme.
Job Seekers will now have to perform three job search
activities every week for four weeks. They will also have
to attend employment related courses for at least five hours
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a week over a four week period. And finally, to
the States, it's Grammy Day. The Grammy is expected to
be a somber affair this year. The annual Oscars of
Music takes place in La today. That is Billie Eilish
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and of course it's going to be somber in response
to the devastating La fires, So we're not going to
have parties and the ceremony will have a strong focus
on the fires and all those who lost their lives
and homes.
Speaker 1 (03:06):
The first word on the News of the Day Early
edition with Andrew Dickens and one roof Make Your Property
Search Simple, News Talk Sippy.
Speaker 3 (03:15):
It's time after five, right, good morning to you. Outrage
of the Day is the photograph of the poor cop
and among the mob vest and hat, which was all
over social media. Now it's that the legacy media was
all over the papers yesterday. Now the police commissioner says
the photo is disappointing and below professional standards. The police
are investigating. The police are determining if further action is needed.
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Now context is everything. This photo is a couple of
years old, taken before gang Regalia became contraband. I wonder
why it's news now. I wonder why someone started spreading
it on social media. Now what are they trying to say?
This cop appears to be in the police station. He
appears to be in an office. He's wearing his police shirt.
He appears to be parading some conference sate Gang Reghavia
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after a successful operation against the gangs. There is no
hint he's glorifying the gang. To me, actually it looks
like he's belittling the gangs. But now the cop is
in trouble because someone thought it was a good idea
to disperse this photo farm wise. Now, look, our cops
have worn the brunt of social media attacks because of
political virtue signaling for years now. A political battle that
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said the previous government and the police were soft on crime.
Rebounded on the actual cops. It be little cops who
put their lives on the line every single day. But
some armchair warrior would sit there and say, oh, yes,
soft on crime drove them nuts. They were and now
they're in the firing line again. When that, I feel
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probably the cops should be celebrated. Our cops have never
been soft on crime, nor are they now. They need
our support, not our opper probian They're doing the best
in a difficult environment and they don't need some moralizing
of armchair critics when the cop themselves celebrate small winds,
scats and to the talk back topic of the day,
I'm sure this will be done. Who on earth thinks
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that banning phizzy drinks from a speedway meeting is going
to help the health of the nation in any material
way whatsoever. I yes, phizzy drinks rot young teeth, but
that's young teeth in the care of parents and families
and on decisions to regularly consume at home, not because
of a big night out celebrating a long week of work.
Let's go. Let's go family, Let's go to the speedway.
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You don't tell Liam Lawson not to drink champagne after
winning a race to you now, and our problem with
the sugary drinks is not their consumption, but they're inappropriate consumption.
So for me, there's no problem with a coke at
the speedway, but there is a problem with coke for
breakfast or a coke every day. So it's coming up
thirteen minutes after five on our first interviews on the
(05:52):
Way with Matthew Haig who's a lawyer and he's part
of this COVID inquiry the Royal Commission. Phase two of
the COVID inquiry kicking in today and it's different and
we'll tell you how in a few moments. Time is
looking at big stuff like mandates and lockdowns. And it's
in a couple of minutes time here on News Talks
at B on.
Speaker 1 (06:11):
Your Radio and online on iHeartRadio Early edition with Andrew
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Speaker 3 (06:21):
Yes, the time is now five fifteen. Phase two of
the COVID inquiry is kicking in today. A submission portal
and awareness campaign is being launched today where the public
can submit feedback around key decisions the New Zealand government
made during the pandemic. And you know these decisions vaccine mandates, lockdowns,
extended lockdowns, rat tests and tracing. I'm sure you've got
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an opinion. You can go to the portal. Matthew Haig
is a lawyer who defended a client who didn't want
the COVID JAB and he joins me, now, hello, Matthew.
Speaker 5 (06:51):
Good morning Andrew.
Speaker 3 (06:53):
Just to remind us, well, why are we having a
second phase of this COVID inquiry.
Speaker 5 (06:57):
Yeah, well, the first phase was heavily criticized, and I
think rightly so for two reasons. One is who the
commissioners were. Some were people who had openly publicly advocated
for stronger lockdown measures, and so people perceived there to
be a degree of bias in what their decision would be.
And secondly, the terms of reference for the first phase
were so narrow, they were all future focused and they
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didn't really cover the decisions of the government.
Speaker 3 (07:20):
So how is this phase different?
Speaker 5 (07:23):
Different commissioners, different terms of reference. So this phase specifically
addresses the government decisions, especially the lockdowns in late twenty
twenty one and vaccine mandates.
Speaker 3 (07:33):
Yes, in phase two has been there by the chair
Grant Illingworth k C and not Professor Tony Blakeley. That
you've referred to this you know this will minimize the
criticism around bias, won't it.
Speaker 5 (07:44):
Yeah? I think so, And I think people should be
optimistic that this phase of the inquiry will address and
scrutinize the decisions that affected so many people in New Zealand.
Speaker 3 (07:53):
Yeah. And why do you think they actually went for
Blakely in the first place, You know, because he was
recommending stuff. I know you have medical advice, medical knowledge,
and he could aid in that way. But surely for
these commissions you need someone who is just straight down
the law, a casey, a lawyer.
Speaker 5 (08:12):
I think people just want objective scrutiny. And in the
first case, Professor Blackley did openly advocate for stronger lockdown measures.
People didn't trust that they wanted someone who was objective.
I think there's still going to be an area of
mistrust because the end of the day, this is still
a function of the government, even though they are independent.
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But I think people should be optimistic that this phase
will be better. And I really encourage anyone who has
a say, whether it's pro or anti measures taken by
government to have their say.
Speaker 3 (08:43):
Okay, so what do you think people will be mostly
submitting about because they're the big ones, aren't they the
man that's lockdowns and the rat tests and the tracing.
Speaker 5 (08:52):
Yeah, I think there'll be people who have either been
affected by those things or have family or friends who
have been as well. We were lucky to ripre sent
a few dozen people who were and there were hundreds
of people that lost their jobs, including mems of the police,
Defense Force, fire and emergency. There are still people who
are going through the court system now we're waiting on
a Supreme Court decision about the end of their flockdown,
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which is only recently presided.
Speaker 3 (09:17):
Okay, and are you making any submissions? Are you part
of anybody making submissions to this phase two of the inquiry?
Speaker 5 (09:22):
Yeah, I would like to. I'm thinking just carefully about
how I can best do that because the end of
the day, we work for our clients, and so I
just want to think carefully about how I can best
do that, probably in consultation with them.
Speaker 3 (09:33):
So what do you hope to get out of that phase?
If you're being involved watching, you know, what would you
like to see get out of it?
Speaker 5 (09:39):
Robust findings. You know that this is not going to
be an inquiry that results in compensation or the restoration
of people's jobs. What we want is scrutiny on the
people who made those decisions, the former Prime Minister, Chris
Sippins and others. I think, more than anything don't want
that kind of thing to happen again. In public health
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measures can be justified, but they need to be balanced
against individual rights of freedom and the economic cost of
extended lockdowns and mandates on people who really, realistically have
no additional risk than you would face in the supermarket
in the community.
Speaker 3 (10:13):
Do you know the address of the submission portal because
I don't.
Speaker 5 (10:17):
Yes, it'll be in the media release. So it's an
online portal, so people can easily find that just by
googling the Phase two COVID inquiry, and that it should
be fairly easy for people to make it submission electronically,
and there is an option of requesting to make it
in person.
Speaker 3 (10:30):
Great souf, Matthew, thank you for waking up early. Thank
you for your time, Matthew Haig Lawyer. And here it
goes here, it goes here, it goes the big questions,
and isn't it good that we've got illingworth a case
instead of someone who was a medical official, a professional
who was advising pro vaccine. You've got to be right
in the midll, don't you? It is nineteen minutes out
to five, big weekend of sport football or good FC wow,
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but Chris would triple wow. You got a hat trick
Andrew Ordison to your next news.
Speaker 1 (10:58):
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Speaker 3 (11:07):
They'd be five twenty one? What a miracle dragged Andrew
Ordison away from cricket on the television you have? Indeed
England and Indian and India scored two hundred and forty
eight and a T twenty game with the well what.
Speaker 6 (11:20):
Did you get?
Speaker 7 (11:20):
One hundred and thirty five Extrawdinarry batting display in Mumbai
under lights?
Speaker 3 (11:27):
Did you watch aukndif see no, I did well? I did?
I did and I tempressive showing this well. I'll tell
you why they are magnificent in defense. They're very physical.
The refs are allowing physical play. They're a great watch
all the time. You know, and when you do a
big tackle. People go why and if you've got a
hei every every two minutes, you're a happy punter, you know.
Speaker 6 (11:46):
Yeah, they're pretty compelling.
Speaker 7 (11:47):
And what a start to this this tenure of these
or this season campaign life.
Speaker 3 (11:54):
That's what that's what happens when you get a pro
in charge. Speaking about a pro, Chris Wood gets a
hat trick.
Speaker 7 (12:01):
I know, just another remarkable display from Chris Wood to
seven NL victory and yeah, seventeen goals this season.
Speaker 6 (12:09):
Just yeah, a frontier, just pioneering from New Zealand football.
Speaker 7 (12:13):
What Chris Wood's been able to put together there, seventeen
goals for the season and sitting behind for Mohammed Salah
Sala and Early Harland and just continues to go from
strength to stry. I mean, I guess from a team
perspective too, Nottingham Forest. I mean we talk about Wood
is individual. They haven't played in Europe since nineteen ninety
six and they've got a buffer there.
Speaker 6 (12:35):
They're well on the way.
Speaker 3 (12:36):
I remember Brian cuff Yeah, Brian Cuffe was the manager.
Can I just say how things have changed? We just
talked about football right at the start, and that's how
big football has suddenly become in New Zealand. It's been
growing for a long time. But I think that's great however.
Speaker 7 (12:52):
It is, and I think it's a growing trend. I
think it's going to continue.
Speaker 3 (12:57):
My boy was at the game and I phoned him
up because one of him come around. We're going to
do dinner. We did dinner last night and I said
I wanted to talk to him about what he wanted
for dinner, and he said he actually takes the back
saying I can't phone you it's too loud. And that's
a good thing. Do we get all, lydia Co? How's
Lydia going now?
Speaker 6 (13:12):
Lydia Co struggling at the start.
Speaker 7 (13:14):
She's dropped two shots today so far through three holes,
so she's not under overall five strokes off the lead
at the sort of the chief, just trying to defend
your title in Florida. Not looking good so far. But
Lydia Coe, we all know can come back into it.
Speaker 3 (13:29):
And you're relentlessly optimistic, aren't you. She is allowed to
lose every now and then. And if you're getting getting
rid of career, if you're getting ready for the super Bowl,
which is in a week's time, for the big kiss
between Travis and that thing of woman. Did you see
the photograph?
Speaker 6 (13:47):
No?
Speaker 3 (13:48):
No, Taylor Swift and Taylor Swift and Travis Kelsey kiss
after the semi final win. But it broke the internet.
The biggest quarterback and the biggest America's sweetheart.
Speaker 6 (13:58):
This is a lot about our society, it doesn't it.
Speaker 3 (14:00):
But NFL is coming to Australia.
Speaker 6 (14:02):
Yeah, that's remarkable news, isn't it.
Speaker 7 (14:04):
So Melbourne looks like they've got three games least, they're
a little locked in starting from twenty twenty six and
they have the sole right to it apparently. So it's
not going to go to Sydney or Perth at the
mc yeah MCG and watch some NFL.
Speaker 3 (14:17):
Well are you inviting me? Will you pay? Will you
pay a little bit on your sort of salary?
Speaker 4 (14:25):
Oh?
Speaker 3 (14:26):
I will be rowing a boat then rowing a boat. Hey, Andrew,
thank you so much. Baking with Sports News.
Speaker 1 (14:32):
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Speaker 3 (14:41):
Talks B and five twenty seven. I'm Andrew Dickens and
for Ryan Bridge. So the country is desperate to go
for growth for obvious reasons, and that means we're having
a good old debate and I like it. The question
is how and you go to a barbecue, you go anywhere,
people start talking about the economy. What should we do?
What should we do? We're going to have to do
something because what we've been doing over the last thirty
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years hasn't worked. We've got three points of view over
the weekend. So first of all, Friday it was the
turn of Matthew Houghton and the Herald. He had a
piece called New Zealand needs this strategic approach to building wealth,
like Singapore's Temasek. Now, Temasek owns and manages assets that
are held directly by the Singapore government. They operate a
major bank and an insurance company, Singapore Airlines, the country's
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main port, the Marina Bay, Sandstel, hotel, a load of
other things, biggest company in Singapore. It's a good idea
and we have actually been investigating it for decades. Even
Grant Robinson was interested in having a New Zealand agency
like Temasek here, but nothing's ever happened. So it has
cross party appeal. Why hasn't it happened? No one knows us.
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The politicians all talk, no action, Honestly, twenty or thirty
years have been talking about this. Nothing's happened anyway. Then
on Sunday it was the turn of Don Brash at
Michael Riddell, who in a shared piece said our problem
was low productivity. Good Lord, If I had a dollar
for every time someone said our problem is low productivity,
I'd be a very rich man. People say this all
the time, every single politician says that, but nobody has
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an answer to it. They just go, what we did
is better productivity. Well, how do we do that? I
don't know, but I know we need better productivity. So
in their piece, Brash and Midell the only profit solution
that they offered in the piece was to lower company
tax rates to attract overseas and local investment. And they
sat there and claimed that we have one of the
highest company tax rates in the world, which is balderdash.
(16:30):
We set it around twenty eight percent. Australia is at
thirty percent, the states in the UK are around twenty
six percent. Were actually slightly above medium. And no disrespect
to Dom Brash, you had terms as a Reserve bank
governor and a leader of a couple of political parties,
and plenty of opportunities to lift productivity, but you failed too.
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And the third piece was from Sam Stubbs, who said,
if we're selling public assets, let's sell them to New
Zealanders like super funds. Well stays in New Zealand instead
of being exported. And I agreed with this. Stop staying productivity,
start saying wealth creations, start creating some wealth keeping in
New Zealand, find out how to make or supply stuff
that the world wants, and then keep the profits and
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the workers in New Zealand. Then we start generating wealth.
Then we recycle it to make more wealth. And that
is Denmark's trick. You know, you know that Denmark operates
the second largest container ship operation in the world. And
the reason why to import capital rather than to export it.
Andrew Dickens, we got the latest news in just a
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few moments time, and then we're around New Zealand and
off to Gavin Gray where Tony Blair has been calling
Keir Starmer names.
Speaker 1 (17:41):
Andrew Dickens on a filly edition with one roof make
your Property search simple, Uth talk Zippy.
Speaker 8 (17:51):
No hold them they are cut down, down, down down.
Speaker 3 (17:58):
Obviously this is Beyonce. You she's been nominated for far
too many awards in today's Grammys. Sorry, I just thought
this was a cold hearted cash grab, and she'd anyway,
that's just me. This is a fun song. The Grammys
are today. We all have coverages. The day goes on
to text correspondents Andrew, you were incorrect about the business
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tax because you're forgetting GST. No, I'm not actually a study.
I look from an international tax organization. Actually factored in
all the sales taxes around the world and every other things.
Of course, overseas you also have federal taxes and state taxes,
and you know local taxes rates. They have more layers
of tax there's all sorts of sort of taxes that
people are having to pay, and they factored this in.
(18:41):
Don't worry. New Zealand is not a high it's not
the highest. It's not what Don Brash said. It's probably
pretty much middle. Someone writes football what an awful word.
It's like calling Mercedes car or champagne drink. Soccer has
lost its identity and it's sad. Sorry you're wrong there too.
I'm afraid. Coming from a football fan family, we've been
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football fans for four generations. It was always football soccer
is an American aberration, an invention to differentiate it from
their American football, which they play mostly with their hand.
Go figure that and someone writes how pathetic that z
be cannot in a sports commentary give credit to the
amazing Wellington Blaze for its six Big Bash win in
eight years, but you talk about AUCKLANDFC. Oh, you're obviously
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at Auckland Team Murray from pilot. I'm sorry. Wellington Blaze
is amazing, six Big Bash win in eight years. I
hope that makes you happy, so to come in the
program today, we're talking about the tariffs. The tariff war
has started between the United States, Canada and Mexico. It's
a biggie a model gauging the economic impact of Trump's
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tariff plan. This was done by Ernst Young. Suggests it
would reduce US growth by one point five percentage points
this year. Because it's the US to play the tariffs,
it's going to through Canada and Mexico into recession and
asherins stag fation. So there's a lot of risks in this.
We're going to be talking about this with an expert
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in geopolitical stuff just before six o'clock today. It is
twenty one to six.
Speaker 1 (20:14):
Andrew dickens.
Speaker 3 (20:16):
His name is Jeffrey Miller. We're around the country right now,
to need didn't we go first? And Callum Proctor joins us. Hello,
Callum morning Andrew. It's a meteorite hunt in South End.
Speaker 8 (20:25):
Yeah, it's underway. Unfortunately though a cloudy night on Friday nights,
posing an issue for those trying to pinpoint its exact location.
This meteorite became a fireball and raced above Queenstown around
eleven o'clock on Friday night before burning out over Northern
South and many across the region. So they saw it
and heard the sonic boom. In fact, some in Australia
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claim to have seen it as well. A fireballs are
so there was too much cloud cover to get specifics
on the location. There's just a slight chance they might
locate it. If they do, it would be New Zealand's
eleventh documented meteorite.
Speaker 3 (21:00):
Fireball altera Roll. What a great name. So how is
the weather today for the great meteor right hunt?
Speaker 8 (21:06):
You're good fine today toleed in high twenty five, very
good to.
Speaker 3 (21:10):
Canary, We go. Claire Sherwood joins us. Now Helliclaire Hello,
and new charter school opens today.
Speaker 9 (21:16):
Yes, Marstery Schools, New Zealand Adapaky opens at Hillsborough this morning.
This is one of three charter schools to open across
the country today. Actually, the role here at the Christ
Church School will start at sixty primary school age children.
There's another forty on the waitlist as well, all of
them children who struggle in mainstream schooling classrooms. Principal Rose
mcinernie says other schools are excited about this opportunity for students.
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She says allowing them to come to their school for
a few years will help them before they return to
mainstream schooling. Everyone hopes anyway. Mcinernie says they do do
a few things differently at Marstery Schools, including some longer
school days. There'll also be a higher teacher and teaching
assistant to student ratio.
Speaker 3 (21:57):
Great stuff. How's your weather hearing this morning?
Speaker 9 (22:00):
It will become fine. Easterly is developing a bit later
and a high of twenty four.
Speaker 3 (22:04):
And I thank you and we go to Wellington. Max Toll,
good morning. We missed you on Friday Friday?
Speaker 10 (22:09):
Yes, where was I on Friday? I can't think.
Speaker 3 (22:12):
We're not They of interested anyway, you have a special
birthing center. What's the story about that today?
Speaker 10 (22:20):
Yeah, the new Health Minister is asking for an urgent
briefing after a special care unit for sick babies that
was meant for Lower Hut was effectively quietly shelved. Health
New Zealand had announced back in twenty twenty two under
the previous government, of course, that it planned to repurpose
of the former our Kaivangi a birthing center in Lower
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Hut into this into a new unit for sick babies
and young children that was supposed to have opened by
mid last year. A Labour's Hut based MP Ginny Anderson
has been asking questions for several months, parliamentary questions. She's
told our newsroom she now understands that it has been canceled,
which she says as a broken promise to the community.
Simeon Brown says he's looking into it getting updated, but
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it doesn't look good for this designated special unit.
Speaker 3 (23:09):
Okay, and how's your weather.
Speaker 10 (23:11):
She'll be fine today. Northerly's getting up to twenty two central.
Speaker 3 (23:14):
Thank you, Max and Neva Lettiman who was in Orkandalla.
Speaker 11 (23:17):
Neva, good morning, you paid me a compliment, de sing
you couldn't see or hear me when I first walked
into the studio. Normally I'm like a bull in a
china shop. He every other host goes, oh my goodness,
you're so loud.
Speaker 3 (23:28):
Yeah, well look at you. Well you've come back to
type now, haven't you. So we've got a couple of
custody officers who are attacked.
Speaker 11 (23:35):
Yes, now, look, what's happened to you? Is that the
two officers they are now apparently recovering from facial injuries. Now,
an attack last week happened and this was at Auckland
District Court if you missed that. So the two they
were escorting a thirty one year old man. This is
from the courtroom back to custody. It happened around three
point fifteen pm on Tuesday afternoon. Now we do know
that one office is suffered a frenchiir jaw, the other
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was knocked out and apparently other stuff. They had to
rush through several locked gates to restrain the man. So
police believe that this attack was unprovoked. A colleague of
the officers say, look, also, there's been growing agitation in
the sales due to overcrowding, and he says that you know,
lots of people there have been in custody since Friday,
the previous week, and this is due to delays over
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the long weekend. And as you can imagine with the
white Tangye coming up this weekend, so those you know,
more public holidays and Raley this.
Speaker 3 (24:25):
Week as a wreck because the holiday is on Thursday,
and then people take the bridge. That's right, except me.
I'm going to be doing Mike's breakfast show for him
because he's taking the bridge because he's already exhausted after
it's two much holiday anyway, and I'm going to.
Speaker 11 (24:37):
Be here because I'm on minus ten and your leave days,
so I'm going to be annoying you.
Speaker 3 (24:43):
But a Thursday white tangy day, that's good. Thursday white
tangy Day just gets in the wave of all sorts
of productivity and kids at school and all sorts cool.
How's hawks were there?
Speaker 5 (24:51):
Right?
Speaker 11 (24:51):
Partly cloudy, a few morning showers, but get this hot
and humid in Auckland was hot in humid yesterday? Twenty
seven is the high here?
Speaker 3 (24:59):
Can it is? Seventeen minutes to six. We're talking tariffs
before sex with Jeffrey Miller. Here's another one. National Foreign
Trade Council President Jake Colvin says Trump's move threatens to
raise the cost of everything from avocados to automobiles across
basically the whole world, and urge the US, Canada, and
Mexico to find a quick solution to avoid escalation. Can
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I tell you about automobile parts? Canada makes some, Mexico
makes some, and then of course America builds the cars.
But then sometimes when they're halfway through building the cars,
to send the cars to Canada or to Mexico to
do a little bit more and then back again. Can
you imagine how much tariff's is going to go on
that vehicle by the time you finally get to market.
I wonder if Americans realize this. But we'll talk about
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Speaker 3 (26:53):
We Go in The big news is that Sterling Mosses
race car has sold for the highest ever amount it
has ever been paid for a Grand Prix car. It
is a Here we Go. It's a silver W one
nine six Arstroum Liniar Avagen, one of only four complete examples.
Sterling Moss used to race in the whole thing, and
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it's sold for fifty one point one to five euros
million euros should they say fifty one point one five
million euros?
Speaker 4 (27:20):
Right?
Speaker 3 (27:21):
That's one hundred million. That's one hundred and two million
dollars for one race car. And the amazing thing is
Sterling Moss still alive. I've checked them. He's he's ninety
years old today at this moment. The costest car you
ever sold, by the way, if you're interested, was a
nineteen fifty five Mercedes three hundred sl Uhlenhut coupe that
change hands for wait for this, one hundred and thirty
(27:43):
five million euros in May of twenty twenty two. That's
two hundred and seventy million bucks for a car. And
the most expensive Grand Prix before this sold at auction
was a Fangio Mercedes W one nine six from nineteen
fifty four nine point six million US, which is what
fifty of a million dollars, and that was back in
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twenty thirteen. So many expensive cars, that's for sure. It's
eleven to six. So, as promised, President Donald Trump has
slapped tariffs on goods coming from Canada, Mexico and China
twenty five percent on imports from Canada and Mexico, China's
getting ten percent. All three countries plan a counter attack.
(28:25):
Canada has already done that, albeit reluctantly. And so to
talk about this, I am joined by geopolitical analyst Jeffrey Miller.
Speaker 2 (28:33):
Hello Jeffrey, Good morning, Andrew.
Speaker 3 (28:37):
It's all on it's trade wars.
Speaker 2 (28:39):
It is indeed, this is the beginning of a new
trade war, and it's just not going to be good
for a country like New Zealand. There's an old African
proverb that says, when the elephants fight, the grass gets trampled.
I think that's applicable yet very good.
Speaker 3 (28:51):
We'll talk about that more in a moment. But it's
going to affect America as well. There's an analysis by
Ernest Young that suggests it will reduce UK growth growth
should I say, by one point five percentage points this year,
which you don't want. Canada and Mexico will be thrown
into recession and there will be stagflation in all three countries.
Do you think Americans and Donald Trump truly understand the
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economic consequences.
Speaker 2 (29:17):
No, I think we're in uncharted territory here. I don't
think we've been here really since the Great Depression. In
many ways, there are similar action taken back in nineteen
thirty ironically, and it does have his does seem familiar
in a sense from that time because the tariffs that
Donald Trump placed on during his first term we're lower
(29:37):
in nature. The tariff that he's promising now are about
three times the level. They're much broader based. There aren't
really the exceptions except for Canadian energy, which we'll get
a ten percent Tariffrutherland twenty five percent. But the tariffs
on China's pretty much on everything. Ten percent on all
Chinese goods and twenty five percent or goods from coming
(29:58):
from Mexico. So it's a big play from Donald Trump,
and the markets don't like it. We're expecting tumbles in
the markets when they open on Monday, anywhere between half
and one percent. It could be more on the days
to come, and that might be the only thing that
possibly changes Donald Trump's mind.
Speaker 3 (30:13):
Justin Trudeau has laid out retaliatory tariffs and made it
very clear he's done so reluctantly. Mexico says they will follow.
So apparently America has retaliatory tariffs already I regulated for
so if you do that, it happens as fighting tariff
with tariff's a good move.
Speaker 2 (30:31):
Well, he's fighting fire with fire and not backing down.
I guess it's a game of brinksmanship here, and Justin
Trudeau will be betting on some kind of resolution, a
deal being done. Of course, Donald Trump loves the deal,
and he'll be hoping for much the same thing, because
in the end, this is being used as a powerplay.
It's being used that Donald Trump is putting these tariff
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in place under emergency legislation dating back to nineteen seventy seven,
which is why he's got these reasons of sentinel and
illegal immigration as the reasons, because he needs a rationale
for doing this, and he's looking for concessions much in
the way that he got concessions from Columbia. Columbia had
to agree to take in those deportation flights, and he'll
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be looking for similar kinds of concessions from Mexico and
Canada and getting the United States, as he would see it,
a better deal.
Speaker 3 (31:23):
So, look, what kind of message is this sending to
the world. Canada is a close ally of America. Look
at justin Trudeau's speech, he evoked all the fighting on
the beaches and the wars and everything. You know, we
are a close friend, and yet they still have not
been spared. So does New Zealand need to be wary here?
Speaker 2 (31:41):
Indeed, look the lesson here is that no one is immune.
If Donald Trump is willing to place tariffs on Canada,
he's also threatening to place tariffs on the EU, then
New Zealand. I don't think he's got any real protection.
New Zealand isn't a formal US allies, a bit more
distance than the likes of Canada and Australia the UK,
so I don't think New Zealom would have any great immunity.
(32:03):
New Zealand exports sixteen billion New Zealand dollars worth of
goods and services to the US every year, even while
there are restrictions on what we export, and New Zealand's
still the exports two and a half billion dollars worth
of beef and other meta exports to the US every
year despite the being restrictions on it. I mean just
that alone, the meatia exports that New Zealand sends to
(32:25):
the US every year, that alone is about the entirety
or even slightly more than what we export to the
golf region every year. And we just signed that new
free trade agreement. Always conclude a negastations on that the
end of last year.
Speaker 3 (32:38):
Take you into account that we need to be wary.
The question and should we speak out about what's actually
happening in the world right now? Would that be dangerous?
Speaker 2 (32:45):
Well, that's a good question. Do you want to poke
your head up above the parapet and speak out? All
that just leads you to being clobbed. I think we're
going to be in Donald Trump's site anyway. As I say,
if Canada and the EU are then New Zealand can't
be far away because we've got even less protection less
to offer, we're much smaller. I think probably the answer
at the moment is to keep our heads down and
work the diplomatic channel. So I think Winston Peter's the
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Foreign Minister, Tom McLay the Trade minister, should be working
the phones with their counterparts and trying to get sency
to prevail here because in the end, everyone's going to
be the loser with a trade war.
Speaker 3 (33:19):
That's true. Thank you so much, Jeffrey Miller.
Speaker 1 (33:21):
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Speaker 3 (33:31):
A fort to six and more semi breaking news. Phil
Punk's attorney, Phil the ground Hog a couple of hours
ago poked his nose out and that means he saw
his shadow, which means apparently there's going to be six
more weeks of winter in America, and due to the
law of reciprocity, that means six more weeks of summer.
Phanzealand Good News and Michael Mike Husking is here.
Speaker 12 (33:52):
Very good morning COVID. We'll talk to the heavy Phase
two today. They've openedworth, They've opened a portal.
Speaker 3 (34:00):
Yes, they want feedback.
Speaker 12 (34:02):
I'm assuming they're bracing for you know, because all about
vaccines and ppe and stuff like that.
Speaker 3 (34:06):
The last time they opened a thing online and it's sort
of crash because the.
Speaker 12 (34:10):
Prior you wait too when you wait till it opens today,
So there'll be a lot of ans about that.
Speaker 3 (34:13):
So we'll do it. We'll talk about that and more
on the more on the tariff since of course grace up.
My name is Andrew Dickinson. My thanks to.
Speaker 1 (34:23):
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Speaker 3 (00:13):
Welcome morning to you. It's a new day, it's a
new week and time Ed Dickens. And in the next
hour the second phase of the Royal Commission into COVID
gets under way today. How is it different and can
you get involved? We'll have that story in five minutes time.
We've got Andrew Ortison in in about ten to talk
sport and it's all about the football ukp and Tony
Blair has branded the current Prime Minister here as an
(00:37):
out of touch human rights lawyer. So what's to fall out?
Gavin Gray from the UK just for five point thirty
and it's on the tariff war starts between the States,
Mexico and Canada. What should New Zealand do. We'll have
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Speaker 1 (01:07):
Nz the agenda.
Speaker 3 (01:11):
It is seven after five. It's Monday, the third of February.
It's my father's birthday. Canada has announced reluctant retaliatory tariffs
against the United States, just hours after President Donald Trump
ordered his promise tariffs on Canada, Mexico and China. Trudeau
responded with a twenty five percent tariff on one hundred
and fifty five billion dollars of US goods, and the
(01:33):
tariff's come into effect tomorrow. Trudeau says Canada did not
ask for this.
Speaker 4 (01:37):
The President Trump wants to usher in a new golden
age for the United States. It's a better power is
to partner with Canada after punishment.
Speaker 3 (01:48):
Meanwhile, Ontario, the state has responded with a punishment of
its own. Premier Doug Ford has announced the province will
no longer sell us booze. So Jack's off, No Jack
Daniels off in Canada, No Jack, and Canada now to Australia.
One person has died in Townsville's flooding emergency. Police have
announced a sixty three year old woman died while trying
to escape the floods. Six suburbs have been evacuated as
(02:11):
some areas received half of Townsville's annual rainfall in just
twenty four hours. Back home, the government's expanding the range
of sanctions included. It has beneficiary traffic light system and scheme.
Job Seekers will now have to perform three job search
activities every week for four weeks. They will also have
to attend employment related courses for at least five hours
(02:34):
a week over a four week period. And finally, to
the States, it's Grammy Day. The Grammy is expected to
be a somber affair this year. The annual Oscars of
Music takes place in La today. That is Billie Eilish
(02:54):
and of course it's going to be somber in response
to the devastating La fires, So we're not going to
have parties and the ceremony will have a strong focus
on the fires and all those who lost their lives
and homes.
Speaker 1 (03:06):
The first word on the News of the Day Early
edition with Andrew Dickens and one roof Make Your Property
Search Simple, News Talk Sippy.
Speaker 3 (03:15):
It's time after five, right, good morning to you. Outrage
of the Day is the photograph of the poor cop
and among the mob vest and hat, which was all
over social media. Now it's that the legacy media was
all over the papers yesterday. Now the police commissioner says
the photo is disappointing and below professional standards. The police
are investigating. The police are determining if further action is needed.
(03:38):
Now context is everything. This photo is a couple of
years old, taken before gang Regalia became contraband. I wonder
why it's news now. I wonder why someone started spreading
it on social media. Now what are they trying to say?
This cop appears to be in the police station. He
appears to be in an office. He's wearing his police shirt.
He appears to be parading some conference sate Gang Reghavia
(04:01):
after a successful operation against the gangs. There is no
hint he's glorifying the gang. To me, actually it looks
like he's belittling the gangs. But now the cop is
in trouble because someone thought it was a good idea
to disperse this photo farm wise. Now, look, our cops
have worn the brunt of social media attacks because of
political virtue signaling for years now. A political battle that
(04:25):
said the previous government and the police were soft on crime.
Rebounded on the actual cops. It be little cops who
put their lives on the line every single day. But
some armchair warrior would sit there and say, oh, yes,
soft on crime drove them nuts. They were and now
they're in the firing line again. When that, I feel
(04:45):
probably the cops should be celebrated. Our cops have never
been soft on crime, nor are they now. They need
our support, not our opper probian They're doing the best
in a difficult environment and they don't need some moralizing
of armchair critics when the cop themselves celebrate small winds,
scats and to the talk back topic of the day,
I'm sure this will be done. Who on earth thinks
(05:07):
that banning phizzy drinks from a speedway meeting is going
to help the health of the nation in any material
way whatsoever. I yes, phizzy drinks rot young teeth, but
that's young teeth in the care of parents and families
and on decisions to regularly consume at home, not because
of a big night out celebrating a long week of work.
Let's go. Let's go family, Let's go to the speedway.
(05:30):
You don't tell Liam Lawson not to drink champagne after
winning a race to you now, and our problem with
the sugary drinks is not their consumption, but they're inappropriate consumption.
So for me, there's no problem with a coke at
the speedway, but there is a problem with coke for
breakfast or a coke every day. So it's coming up
thirteen minutes after five on our first interviews on the
(05:52):
Way with Matthew Haig who's a lawyer and he's part
of this COVID inquiry the Royal Commission. Phase two of
the COVID inquiry kicking in today and it's different and
we'll tell you how in a few moments. Time is
looking at big stuff like mandates and lockdowns. And it's
in a couple of minutes time here on News Talks
at B on.
Speaker 1 (06:11):
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Speaker 3 (06:21):
Yes, the time is now five fifteen. Phase two of
the COVID inquiry is kicking in today. A submission portal
and awareness campaign is being launched today where the public
can submit feedback around key decisions the New Zealand government
made during the pandemic. And you know these decisions vaccine mandates, lockdowns,
extended lockdowns, rat tests and tracing. I'm sure you've got
(06:42):
an opinion. You can go to the portal. Matthew Haig
is a lawyer who defended a client who didn't want
the COVID JAB and he joins me, now, hello, Matthew.
Speaker 5 (06:51):
Good morning Andrew.
Speaker 3 (06:53):
Just to remind us, well, why are we having a
second phase of this COVID inquiry.
Speaker 5 (06:57):
Yeah, well, the first phase was heavily criticized, and I
think rightly so for two reasons. One is who the
commissioners were. Some were people who had openly publicly advocated
for stronger lockdown measures, and so people perceived there to
be a degree of bias in what their decision would be.
And secondly, the terms of reference for the first phase
were so narrow, they were all future focused and they
(07:17):
didn't really cover the decisions of the government.
Speaker 3 (07:20):
So how is this phase different?
Speaker 5 (07:23):
Different commissioners, different terms of reference. So this phase specifically
addresses the government decisions, especially the lockdowns in late twenty
twenty one and vaccine mandates.
Speaker 3 (07:33):
Yes, in phase two has been there by the chair
Grant Illingworth k C and not Professor Tony Blakeley. That
you've referred to this you know this will minimize the
criticism around bias, won't it.
Speaker 5 (07:44):
Yeah? I think so, And I think people should be
optimistic that this phase of the inquiry will address and
scrutinize the decisions that affected so many people in New Zealand.
Speaker 3 (07:53):
Yeah. And why do you think they actually went for
Blakely in the first place, You know, because he was
recommending stuff. I know you have medical advice, medical knowledge,
and he could aid in that way. But surely for
these commissions you need someone who is just straight down
the law, a casey, a lawyer.
Speaker 5 (08:12):
I think people just want objective scrutiny. And in the
first case, Professor Blackley did openly advocate for stronger lockdown measures.
People didn't trust that they wanted someone who was objective.
I think there's still going to be an area of
mistrust because the end of the day, this is still
a function of the government, even though they are independent.
(08:32):
But I think people should be optimistic that this phase
will be better. And I really encourage anyone who has
a say, whether it's pro or anti measures taken by
government to have their say.
Speaker 3 (08:43):
Okay, so what do you think people will be mostly
submitting about because they're the big ones, aren't they the
man that's lockdowns and the rat tests and the tracing.
Speaker 5 (08:52):
Yeah, I think there'll be people who have either been
affected by those things or have family or friends who
have been as well. We were lucky to ripre sent
a few dozen people who were and there were hundreds
of people that lost their jobs, including mems of the police,
Defense Force, fire and emergency. There are still people who
are going through the court system now we're waiting on
a Supreme Court decision about the end of their flockdown,
(09:15):
which is only recently presided.
Speaker 3 (09:17):
Okay, and are you making any submissions? Are you part
of anybody making submissions to this phase two of the inquiry?
Speaker 5 (09:22):
Yeah, I would like to. I'm thinking just carefully about
how I can best do that because the end of
the day, we work for our clients, and so I
just want to think carefully about how I can best
do that, probably in consultation with them.
Speaker 3 (09:33):
So what do you hope to get out of that phase?
If you're being involved watching, you know, what would you
like to see get out of it?
Speaker 5 (09:39):
Robust findings. You know that this is not going to
be an inquiry that results in compensation or the restoration
of people's jobs. What we want is scrutiny on the
people who made those decisions, the former Prime Minister, Chris
Sippins and others. I think, more than anything don't want
that kind of thing to happen again. In public health
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measures can be justified, but they need to be balanced
against individual rights of freedom and the economic cost of
extended lockdowns and mandates on people who really, realistically have
no additional risk than you would face in the supermarket
in the community.
Speaker 3 (10:13):
Do you know the address of the submission portal because
I don't.
Speaker 5 (10:17):
Yes, it'll be in the media release. So it's an
online portal, so people can easily find that just by
googling the Phase two COVID inquiry, and that it should
be fairly easy for people to make it submission electronically,
and there is an option of requesting to make it
in person.
Speaker 3 (10:30):
Great souf, Matthew, thank you for waking up early. Thank
you for your time, Matthew Haig Lawyer. And here it
goes here, it goes here, it goes the big questions,
and isn't it good that we've got illingworth a case
instead of someone who was a medical official, a professional
who was advising pro vaccine. You've got to be right
in the midll, don't you? It is nineteen minutes out
to five, big weekend of sport football or good FC wow,
(10:53):
but Chris would triple wow. You got a hat trick
Andrew Ordison to your next news.
Speaker 1 (10:58):
And views you trust to die your day is the
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Speaker 3 (11:07):
They'd be five twenty one? What a miracle dragged Andrew
Ordison away from cricket on the television you have? Indeed
England and Indian and India scored two hundred and forty
eight and a T twenty game with the well what.
Speaker 6 (11:20):
Did you get?
Speaker 7 (11:20):
One hundred and thirty five Extrawdinarry batting display in Mumbai
under lights?
Speaker 3 (11:27):
Did you watch aukndif see no, I did well? I did?
I did and I tempressive showing this well. I'll tell
you why they are magnificent in defense. They're very physical.
The refs are allowing physical play. They're a great watch
all the time. You know, and when you do a
big tackle. People go why and if you've got a
hei every every two minutes, you're a happy punter, you know.
Speaker 6 (11:46):
Yeah, they're pretty compelling.
Speaker 7 (11:47):
And what a start to this this tenure of these
or this season campaign life.
Speaker 3 (11:54):
That's what that's what happens when you get a pro
in charge. Speaking about a pro, Chris Wood gets a
hat trick.
Speaker 7 (12:01):
I know, just another remarkable display from Chris Wood to
seven NL victory and yeah, seventeen goals this season.
Speaker 6 (12:09):
Just yeah, a frontier, just pioneering from New Zealand football.
Speaker 7 (12:13):
What Chris Wood's been able to put together there, seventeen
goals for the season and sitting behind for Mohammed Salah
Sala and Early Harland and just continues to go from
strength to stry. I mean, I guess from a team
perspective too, Nottingham Forest. I mean we talk about Wood
is individual. They haven't played in Europe since nineteen ninety
six and they've got a buffer there.
Speaker 6 (12:35):
They're well on the way.
Speaker 3 (12:36):
I remember Brian cuff Yeah, Brian Cuffe was the manager.
Can I just say how things have changed? We just
talked about football right at the start, and that's how
big football has suddenly become in New Zealand. It's been
growing for a long time. But I think that's great however.
Speaker 7 (12:52):
It is, and I think it's a growing trend. I
think it's going to continue.
Speaker 3 (12:57):
My boy was at the game and I phoned him
up because one of him come around. We're going to
do dinner. We did dinner last night and I said
I wanted to talk to him about what he wanted
for dinner, and he said he actually takes the back
saying I can't phone you it's too loud. And that's
a good thing. Do we get all, lydia Co? How's
Lydia going now?
Speaker 6 (13:12):
Lydia Co struggling at the start.
Speaker 7 (13:14):
She's dropped two shots today so far through three holes,
so she's not under overall five strokes off the lead
at the sort of the chief, just trying to defend
your title in Florida. Not looking good so far. But
Lydia Coe, we all know can come back into it.
Speaker 3 (13:29):
And you're relentlessly optimistic, aren't you. She is allowed to
lose every now and then. And if you're getting getting
rid of career, if you're getting ready for the super Bowl,
which is in a week's time, for the big kiss
between Travis and that thing of woman. Did you see
the photograph?
Speaker 6 (13:47):
No?
Speaker 3 (13:48):
No, Taylor Swift and Taylor Swift and Travis Kelsey kiss
after the semi final win. But it broke the internet.
The biggest quarterback and the biggest America's sweetheart.
Speaker 6 (13:58):
This is a lot about our society, it doesn't it.
Speaker 3 (14:00):
But NFL is coming to Australia.
Speaker 6 (14:02):
Yeah, that's remarkable news, isn't it.
Speaker 7 (14:04):
So Melbourne looks like they've got three games least, they're
a little locked in starting from twenty twenty six and
they have the sole right to it apparently. So it's
not going to go to Sydney or Perth at the
mc yeah MCG and watch some NFL.
Speaker 3 (14:17):
Well are you inviting me? Will you pay? Will you
pay a little bit on your sort of salary?
Speaker 4 (14:25):
Oh?
Speaker 3 (14:26):
I will be rowing a boat then rowing a boat. Hey, Andrew,
thank you so much. Baking with Sports News.
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Talks B and five twenty seven. I'm Andrew Dickens and
for Ryan Bridge. So the country is desperate to go
for growth for obvious reasons, and that means we're having
a good old debate and I like it. The question
is how and you go to a barbecue, you go anywhere,
people start talking about the economy. What should we do?
What should we do? We're going to have to do
something because what we've been doing over the last thirty
(15:02):
years hasn't worked. We've got three points of view over
the weekend. So first of all, Friday it was the
turn of Matthew Houghton and the Herald. He had a
piece called New Zealand needs this strategic approach to building wealth,
like Singapore's Temasek. Now, Temasek owns and manages assets that
are held directly by the Singapore government. They operate a
major bank and an insurance company, Singapore Airlines, the country's
(15:24):
main port, the Marina Bay, Sandstel, hotel, a load of
other things, biggest company in Singapore. It's a good idea
and we have actually been investigating it for decades. Even
Grant Robinson was interested in having a New Zealand agency
like Temasek here, but nothing's ever happened. So it has
cross party appeal. Why hasn't it happened? No one knows us.
(15:46):
The politicians all talk, no action, Honestly, twenty or thirty
years have been talking about this. Nothing's happened anyway. Then
on Sunday it was the turn of Don Brash at
Michael Riddell, who in a shared piece said our problem
was low productivity. Good Lord, If I had a dollar
for every time someone said our problem is low productivity,
I'd be a very rich man. People say this all
the time, every single politician says that, but nobody has
(16:07):
an answer to it. They just go, what we did
is better productivity. Well, how do we do that? I
don't know, but I know we need better productivity. So
in their piece, Brash and Midell the only profit solution
that they offered in the piece was to lower company
tax rates to attract overseas and local investment. And they
sat there and claimed that we have one of the
highest company tax rates in the world, which is balderdash.
(16:30):
We set it around twenty eight percent. Australia is at
thirty percent, the states in the UK are around twenty
six percent. Were actually slightly above medium. And no disrespect
to Dom Brash, you had terms as a Reserve bank
governor and a leader of a couple of political parties,
and plenty of opportunities to lift productivity, but you failed too.
(16:51):
And the third piece was from Sam Stubbs, who said,
if we're selling public assets, let's sell them to New
Zealanders like super funds. Well stays in New Zealand instead
of being exported. And I agreed with this. Stop staying productivity,
start saying wealth creations, start creating some wealth keeping in
New Zealand, find out how to make or supply stuff
that the world wants, and then keep the profits and
(17:13):
the workers in New Zealand. Then we start generating wealth.
Then we recycle it to make more wealth. And that
is Denmark's trick. You know, you know that Denmark operates
the second largest container ship operation in the world. And
the reason why to import capital rather than to export it.
Andrew Dickens, we got the latest news in just a
(17:33):
few moments time, and then we're around New Zealand and
off to Gavin Gray where Tony Blair has been calling
Keir Starmer names.
Speaker 1 (17:41):
Andrew Dickens on a filly edition with one roof make
your Property search simple, Uth talk Zippy.
Speaker 8 (17:51):
No hold them they are cut down, down, down down.
Speaker 3 (17:58):
Obviously this is Beyonce. You she's been nominated for far
too many awards in today's Grammys. Sorry, I just thought
this was a cold hearted cash grab, and she'd anyway,
that's just me. This is a fun song. The Grammys
are today. We all have coverages. The day goes on
to text correspondents Andrew, you were incorrect about the business
(18:20):
tax because you're forgetting GST. No, I'm not actually a study.
I look from an international tax organization. Actually factored in
all the sales taxes around the world and every other things.
Of course, overseas you also have federal taxes and state taxes,
and you know local taxes rates. They have more layers
of tax there's all sorts of sort of taxes that
people are having to pay, and they factored this in.
(18:41):
Don't worry. New Zealand is not a high it's not
the highest. It's not what Don Brash said. It's probably
pretty much middle. Someone writes football what an awful word.
It's like calling Mercedes car or champagne drink. Soccer has
lost its identity and it's sad. Sorry you're wrong there too.
I'm afraid. Coming from a football fan family, we've been
(19:04):
football fans for four generations. It was always football soccer
is an American aberration, an invention to differentiate it from
their American football, which they play mostly with their hand.
Go figure that and someone writes how pathetic that z
be cannot in a sports commentary give credit to the
amazing Wellington Blaze for its six Big Bash win in
eight years, but you talk about AUCKLANDFC. Oh, you're obviously
(19:27):
at Auckland Team Murray from pilot. I'm sorry. Wellington Blaze
is amazing, six Big Bash win in eight years. I
hope that makes you happy, so to come in the
program today, we're talking about the tariffs. The tariff war
has started between the United States, Canada and Mexico. It's
a biggie a model gauging the economic impact of Trump's
(19:49):
tariff plan. This was done by Ernst Young. Suggests it
would reduce US growth by one point five percentage points
this year. Because it's the US to play the tariffs,
it's going to through Canada and Mexico into recession and
asherins stag fation. So there's a lot of risks in this.
We're going to be talking about this with an expert
(20:09):
in geopolitical stuff just before six o'clock today. It is
twenty one to six.
Speaker 1 (20:14):
Andrew dickens.
Speaker 3 (20:16):
His name is Jeffrey Miller. We're around the country right now,
to need didn't we go first? And Callum Proctor joins us. Hello,
Callum morning Andrew. It's a meteorite hunt in South End.
Speaker 8 (20:25):
Yeah, it's underway. Unfortunately though a cloudy night on Friday nights,
posing an issue for those trying to pinpoint its exact location.
This meteorite became a fireball and raced above Queenstown around
eleven o'clock on Friday night before burning out over Northern
South and many across the region. So they saw it
and heard the sonic boom. In fact, some in Australia
(20:47):
claim to have seen it as well. A fireballs are
so there was too much cloud cover to get specifics
on the location. There's just a slight chance they might
locate it. If they do, it would be New Zealand's
eleventh documented meteorite.
Speaker 3 (21:00):
Fireball altera Roll. What a great name. So how is
the weather today for the great meteor right hunt?
Speaker 8 (21:06):
You're good fine today toleed in high twenty five, very
good to.
Speaker 3 (21:10):
Canary, We go. Claire Sherwood joins us. Now Helliclaire Hello,
and new charter school opens today.
Speaker 9 (21:16):
Yes, Marstery Schools, New Zealand Adapaky opens at Hillsborough this morning.
This is one of three charter schools to open across
the country today. Actually, the role here at the Christ
Church School will start at sixty primary school age children.
There's another forty on the waitlist as well, all of
them children who struggle in mainstream schooling classrooms. Principal Rose
mcinernie says other schools are excited about this opportunity for students.
(21:40):
She says allowing them to come to their school for
a few years will help them before they return to
mainstream schooling. Everyone hopes anyway. Mcinernie says they do do
a few things differently at Marstery Schools, including some longer
school days. There'll also be a higher teacher and teaching
assistant to student ratio.
Speaker 3 (21:57):
Great stuff. How's your weather hearing this morning?
Speaker 9 (22:00):
It will become fine. Easterly is developing a bit later
and a high of twenty four.
Speaker 3 (22:04):
And I thank you and we go to Wellington. Max Toll,
good morning. We missed you on Friday Friday?
Speaker 10 (22:09):
Yes, where was I on Friday? I can't think.
Speaker 3 (22:12):
We're not They of interested anyway, you have a special
birthing center. What's the story about that today?
Speaker 10 (22:20):
Yeah, the new Health Minister is asking for an urgent
briefing after a special care unit for sick babies that
was meant for Lower Hut was effectively quietly shelved. Health
New Zealand had announced back in twenty twenty two under
the previous government, of course, that it planned to repurpose
of the former our Kaivangi a birthing center in Lower
(22:42):
Hut into this into a new unit for sick babies
and young children that was supposed to have opened by
mid last year. A Labour's Hut based MP Ginny Anderson
has been asking questions for several months, parliamentary questions. She's
told our newsroom she now understands that it has been canceled,
which she says as a broken promise to the community.
Simeon Brown says he's looking into it getting updated, but
(23:06):
it doesn't look good for this designated special unit.
Speaker 3 (23:09):
Okay, and how's your weather.
Speaker 10 (23:11):
She'll be fine today. Northerly's getting up to twenty two central.
Speaker 3 (23:14):
Thank you, Max and Neva Lettiman who was in Orkandalla.
Speaker 11 (23:17):
Neva, good morning, you paid me a compliment, de sing
you couldn't see or hear me when I first walked
into the studio. Normally I'm like a bull in a
china shop. He every other host goes, oh my goodness,
you're so loud.
Speaker 3 (23:28):
Yeah, well look at you. Well you've come back to
type now, haven't you. So we've got a couple of
custody officers who are attacked.
Speaker 11 (23:35):
Yes, now, look, what's happened to you? Is that the
two officers they are now apparently recovering from facial injuries. Now,
an attack last week happened and this was at Auckland
District Court if you missed that. So the two they
were escorting a thirty one year old man. This is
from the courtroom back to custody. It happened around three
point fifteen pm on Tuesday afternoon. Now we do know
that one office is suffered a frenchiir jaw, the other
(23:57):
was knocked out and apparently other stuff. They had to
rush through several locked gates to restrain the man. So
police believe that this attack was unprovoked. A colleague of
the officers say, look, also, there's been growing agitation in
the sales due to overcrowding, and he says that you know,
lots of people there have been in custody since Friday,
the previous week, and this is due to delays over
(24:18):
the long weekend. And as you can imagine with the
white Tangye coming up this weekend, so those you know,
more public holidays and Raley this.
Speaker 3 (24:25):
Week as a wreck because the holiday is on Thursday,
and then people take the bridge. That's right, except me.
I'm going to be doing Mike's breakfast show for him
because he's taking the bridge because he's already exhausted after
it's two much holiday anyway, and I'm going to.
Speaker 11 (24:37):
Be here because I'm on minus ten and your leave days,
so I'm going to be annoying you.
Speaker 3 (24:43):
But a Thursday white tangy day, that's good. Thursday white
tangy Day just gets in the wave of all sorts
of productivity and kids at school and all sorts cool.
How's hawks were there?
Speaker 5 (24:51):
Right?
Speaker 11 (24:51):
Partly cloudy, a few morning showers, but get this hot
and humid in Auckland was hot in humid yesterday? Twenty
seven is the high here?
Speaker 3 (24:59):
Can it is? Seventeen minutes to six. We're talking tariffs
before sex with Jeffrey Miller. Here's another one. National Foreign
Trade Council President Jake Colvin says Trump's move threatens to
raise the cost of everything from avocados to automobiles across
basically the whole world, and urge the US, Canada, and
Mexico to find a quick solution to avoid escalation. Can
(25:21):
I tell you about automobile parts? Canada makes some, Mexico
makes some, and then of course America builds the cars.
But then sometimes when they're halfway through building the cars,
to send the cars to Canada or to Mexico to
do a little bit more and then back again. Can
you imagine how much tariff's is going to go on
that vehicle by the time you finally get to market.
I wonder if Americans realize this. But we'll talk about
(25:43):
the implications with Jeffrey Miller just before six here on
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New Zealand business to the UK.
Speaker 3 (26:53):
We Go in The big news is that Sterling Mosses
race car has sold for the highest ever amount it
has ever been paid for a Grand Prix car. It
is a Here we Go. It's a silver W one
nine six Arstroum Liniar Avagen, one of only four complete examples.
Sterling Moss used to race in the whole thing, and
(27:14):
it's sold for fifty one point one to five euros
million euros should they say fifty one point one five
million euros?
Speaker 4 (27:20):
Right?
Speaker 3 (27:21):
That's one hundred million. That's one hundred and two million
dollars for one race car. And the amazing thing is
Sterling Moss still alive. I've checked them. He's he's ninety
years old today at this moment. The costest car you
ever sold, by the way, if you're interested, was a
nineteen fifty five Mercedes three hundred sl Uhlenhut coupe that
change hands for wait for this, one hundred and thirty
(27:43):
five million euros in May of twenty twenty two. That's
two hundred and seventy million bucks for a car. And
the most expensive Grand Prix before this sold at auction
was a Fangio Mercedes W one nine six from nineteen
fifty four nine point six million US, which is what
fifty of a million dollars, and that was back in
(28:05):
twenty thirteen. So many expensive cars, that's for sure. It's
eleven to six. So, as promised, President Donald Trump has
slapped tariffs on goods coming from Canada, Mexico and China
twenty five percent on imports from Canada and Mexico, China's
getting ten percent. All three countries plan a counter attack.
(28:25):
Canada has already done that, albeit reluctantly. And so to
talk about this, I am joined by geopolitical analyst Jeffrey Miller.
Speaker 2 (28:33):
Hello Jeffrey, Good morning, Andrew.
Speaker 3 (28:37):
It's all on it's trade wars.
Speaker 2 (28:39):
It is indeed, this is the beginning of a new
trade war, and it's just not going to be good
for a country like New Zealand. There's an old African
proverb that says, when the elephants fight, the grass gets trampled.
I think that's applicable yet very good.
Speaker 3 (28:51):
We'll talk about that more in a moment. But it's
going to affect America as well. There's an analysis by
Ernest Young that suggests it will reduce UK growth growth
should I say, by one point five percentage points this year,
which you don't want. Canada and Mexico will be thrown
into recession and there will be stagflation in all three countries.
Do you think Americans and Donald Trump truly understand the
(29:14):
economic consequences.
Speaker 2 (29:17):
No, I think we're in uncharted territory here. I don't
think we've been here really since the Great Depression. In
many ways, there are similar action taken back in nineteen
thirty ironically, and it does have his does seem familiar
in a sense from that time because the tariffs that
Donald Trump placed on during his first term we're lower
(29:37):
in nature. The tariff that he's promising now are about
three times the level. They're much broader based. There aren't
really the exceptions except for Canadian energy, which we'll get
a ten percent Tariffrutherland twenty five percent. But the tariffs
on China's pretty much on everything. Ten percent on all
Chinese goods and twenty five percent or goods from coming
(29:58):
from Mexico. So it's a big play from Donald Trump,
and the markets don't like it. We're expecting tumbles in
the markets when they open on Monday, anywhere between half
and one percent. It could be more on the days
to come, and that might be the only thing that
possibly changes Donald Trump's mind.
Speaker 3 (30:13):
Justin Trudeau has laid out retaliatory tariffs and made it
very clear he's done so reluctantly. Mexico says they will follow.
So apparently America has retaliatory tariffs already I regulated for
so if you do that, it happens as fighting tariff
with tariff's a good move.
Speaker 2 (30:31):
Well, he's fighting fire with fire and not backing down.
I guess it's a game of brinksmanship here, and Justin
Trudeau will be betting on some kind of resolution, a
deal being done. Of course, Donald Trump loves the deal,
and he'll be hoping for much the same thing, because
in the end, this is being used as a powerplay.
It's being used that Donald Trump is putting these tariff
(30:53):
in place under emergency legislation dating back to nineteen seventy seven,
which is why he's got these reasons of sentinel and
illegal immigration as the reasons, because he needs a rationale
for doing this, and he's looking for concessions much in
the way that he got concessions from Columbia. Columbia had
to agree to take in those deportation flights, and he'll
(31:16):
be looking for similar kinds of concessions from Mexico and
Canada and getting the United States, as he would see it,
a better deal.
Speaker 3 (31:23):
So, look, what kind of message is this sending to
the world. Canada is a close ally of America. Look
at justin Trudeau's speech, he evoked all the fighting on
the beaches and the wars and everything. You know, we
are a close friend, and yet they still have not
been spared. So does New Zealand need to be wary here?
Speaker 2 (31:41):
Indeed, look the lesson here is that no one is immune.
If Donald Trump is willing to place tariffs on Canada,
he's also threatening to place tariffs on the EU, then
New Zealand. I don't think he's got any real protection.
New Zealand isn't a formal US allies, a bit more
distance than the likes of Canada and Australia the UK,
so I don't think New Zealom would have any great immunity.
(32:03):
New Zealand exports sixteen billion New Zealand dollars worth of
goods and services to the US every year, even while
there are restrictions on what we export, and New Zealand's
still the exports two and a half billion dollars worth
of beef and other meta exports to the US every
year despite the being restrictions on it. I mean just
that alone, the meatia exports that New Zealand sends to
(32:25):
the US every year, that alone is about the entirety
or even slightly more than what we export to the
golf region every year. And we just signed that new
free trade agreement. Always conclude a negastations on that the
end of last year.
Speaker 3 (32:38):
Take you into account that we need to be wary.
The question and should we speak out about what's actually
happening in the world right now? Would that be dangerous?
Speaker 2 (32:45):
Well, that's a good question. Do you want to poke
your head up above the parapet and speak out? All
that just leads you to being clobbed. I think we're
going to be in Donald Trump's site anyway. As I say,
if Canada and the EU are then New Zealand can't
be far away because we've got even less protection less
to offer, we're much smaller. I think probably the answer
at the moment is to keep our heads down and
work the diplomatic channel. So I think Winston Peter's the
(33:07):
Foreign Minister, Tom McLay the Trade minister, should be working
the phones with their counterparts and trying to get sency
to prevail here because in the end, everyone's going to
be the loser with a trade war.
Speaker 3 (33:19):
That's true. Thank you so much, Jeffrey Miller.
Speaker 1 (33:21):
The News you need this morning and the in depth
Analysis early edition with Andrew Dickens and one roof Make
Your Property Search Simple News Talk said be it is.
Speaker 3 (33:31):
A fort to six and more semi breaking news. Phil
Punk's attorney, Phil the ground Hog a couple of hours
ago poked his nose out and that means he saw
his shadow, which means apparently there's going to be six
more weeks of winter in America, and due to the
law of reciprocity, that means six more weeks of summer.
Phanzealand Good News and Michael Mike Husking is here.
Speaker 12 (33:52):
Very good morning COVID. We'll talk to the heavy Phase
two today. They've openedworth, They've opened a portal.
Speaker 3 (34:00):
Yes, they want feedback.
Speaker 12 (34:02):
I'm assuming they're bracing for you know, because all about
vaccines and ppe and stuff like that.
Speaker 3 (34:06):
The last time they opened a thing online and it's sort
of crash because the.
Speaker 12 (34:10):
Prior you wait too when you wait till it opens today,
So there'll be a lot of ans about that.
Speaker 3 (34:13):
So we'll do it. We'll talk about that and more
on the more on the tariff since of course grace up.
My name is Andrew Dickinson. My thanks to.
Speaker 1 (34:23):
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