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February 9, 2025 • 34 mins

On the Early Edition with Andrew Dickens Full Show Podcast for Monday 10th February 2025, Auckland Chamber of Commerce CEO Simon Bridges shares his thoughts on the Government relaxing Visa settings to encourage more foreign investment.

We head to the US where Superbowl Sunday is underway, Ben Harlum a Radio host at Sirus XM paints a picture of the big day.

We get an update on the weekend's sport - Black Caps batter Rachin Ravindra suffered a sickening blow to the head after he appeared to misjudge a catch during their One-Day International victory over Pakistan. And Tiaan Whelpton for setting the second fastest time by a New Zealand 100 metres runner.

Andrew applauds the outbreak of common sense exhibited by the new Minister of Transport, Chris Bishop.

More than three decades after leaving the Soviet Union, Estonia, Latvia, and Lithuania have begun to unplug from Russia's electricity grid and join the EU's network, Gavin Gray shares the latest.

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
The issues is the interviews and the insight. Andrew dickens
on the early edition with one roof make your property
search simple, Use Talks.

Speaker 2 (00:11):
It'd be.

Speaker 3 (00:13):
Welcome morning to you, Welcome to your Monday, Welcome to
the first full five day week of the year. To
brace yourself and the year really starts now on this program.
In the next hour. At a moment, we're off to
America as the Super Bowl takes over New Orleans. It's
Fatifs versus the Eagles. We'll talk about the security, the entertainment,
the halftime adds, and we might even talk about the
game as well. Later, speaking about sport, Andrew Ordison reviews

(00:37):
the sporting weekend, including a new sprinting star making his
entrance and visa changes are on the way to entice
wealthy overseas investors, but will they really work? And this
is enough. Simon Bridges from the Auckland Chamber of Commerce.
Just before six, we'll have correspondence from right around the
world and New Zealand and news as it breaks. You
can text me on ninety two to ninety two. Small

(00:58):
charge applies. You can email sis at News Talks here
b dot co dot nz.

Speaker 1 (01:02):
It the agenda.

Speaker 3 (01:06):
It's Monday, the tenth of February. It is seven minutes
near the eight minutes after five to the Middle Eastern
Israel and Hamas have followed through with their fifth hostage
and prisoner exchange since the seikxfire agreement went into effect.
One hundred and eighty three Palestinian prisoners were released, while
Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu expressed shock at the condition

(01:28):
of the three hostages that were released by Hamas. Israel
says that sending a delegation to Doha for the next
phase of six fire talks the problem.

Speaker 4 (01:36):
The court says that all the heart issues between Israel's
and Palestinians were pushed off into Phase two and phase three.
And the key question, the hardest question, really is will
the IDF withdraw its forces fully from Gaza.

Speaker 3 (01:52):
Meanwhile, Donald Trump keeps making news the US President has
signed an executive order freezing financial aid to South Africa.
Donald Trump says he's bringing in the order because of
South Africa's new land law, which he sees is violating
people's rights, and because of its international court case which
has accused Israel of genocide.

Speaker 5 (02:11):
We will not be deterred.

Speaker 2 (02:14):
We are as South Africans are resilient people and we
will not be bullied.

Speaker 3 (02:21):
Meanwhile, still in America, thousands of employees from the US
Agency for International Development, the AID Agency, will have your
jobs reinstated temporarily after a judge blocked Trump from placing
the workers on paid leave. The judge has ssued a
limited restraining order in response to a last minute lawsuit
filed by two unions trying to save the agency. The

(02:42):
order will remain in place until Valentine's Day, February fourteen.
And finally, a US federal judge has blocked Elon Musk's
Department of Government Efficiency from accessing the personal financial data
of millions of Americans in the Treasury Department records.

Speaker 6 (03:00):
Terms that are very sensitive, that are typically controlled by
nonpartisan career bureaucrats, and for good reason, because especially with Treasury,
you know, the consequences here could potentially be vast for
management of the national debt of America defaulting on its debt.

Speaker 3 (03:15):
And that takes us to ten after five.

Speaker 1 (03:18):
Andrew Dickens on affili Edition with one roof Make Your
Property Search Simple, Youth Talk Zibby.

Speaker 3 (03:25):
Well the Cook Islands crisis rumbles on, with the Foreign
Minister becoming ever more strident and the Cook Islands Prime
Minister keeping all the details of his China deal close
to his chest, infuriating both Winston Peters and his own people,
the Cook Island people, who are now planning a protest
and asking what on earth are we getting the country
into with China. I had a passing moment of sympathy

(03:46):
for Matt Brown, the Cook Island leader, over the weekend,
but it passed rather quickly. He was quoted as saying
that New Zealand never asks the Cook Islands for advice
when we do deals with China, so why should they?
And fairpoint sovereignty in all that, but I think it
ignores the cold hard reality of the Cook Islands position.
They are tiny and they need us. The claim that

(04:07):
they contribute one billion dollars to our economy is fanciful.
They are dependent on New Zealand and Australian tourists. That's
their bread and butter, and we are also the supplier
of their food and services. So when China comes swaggering
in with their gigantic wallets, promising ferries and all sorts
of treasure, it must be very tempting to have some

(04:28):
independence from the meddlesome parents they see us as. But remember,
no gifts ever come for free, and China's aspirations are
very clear, and they play a long game. And when
it comes time for China to collect its chips, they
have a history of collecting them hard. Just Sri Lanka
about their Chinese built ports. And it's also a matter

(04:49):
of timing because while all this is happening, there's news
out of America. President Trump has declared it's time to
take an axe to their international aid grants.

Speaker 2 (04:58):
Now.

Speaker 3 (04:58):
Critics of that move around the world have warned that
China is ready and willing and able to replace that
aid to gain even more influence in the world, and
that Donald Trump is giving them the keys. So maybe
I'm being a little paranoid, but China giving substantial aid
to a Pacific island right now, at a time when

(05:19):
America seems to be withdrawing into itself, seems a tad
opportunistic and concerning. Do they really have the Cook Islands
benefit at heart? And so my advice to Mark Brown
is look the Chinese horse in the mouth and maybe
just settle for being the awesome you already are, because
China is nobody's friend. Andrew Dickens, twelve after five. The

(05:42):
other big story, of course, is the changes to the
visas and their quest to restart capital growth. The government
has pushed the immigrant door a little wider open, so
they wish to attract wealthy foreigners to our shores, to
invest in our businesses, to provide more capital in our system,
to fund good ideas and to make them grow. So
from the first of April there be changes to the
active investor plus visa program. Remember these names, we'll be

(06:04):
talking about them all day. There'll be two types of
visas available, one for a higher risk investor and another
for a balanced investor. The higher risk guys need to
invest at least five million dollars for at least three years,
and they have to live in New Zealand for at
least three weeks a year twenty one days. The balance guys, well,

(06:24):
they need to spend ten million over five years. They
need to live here for at least one hundred and
five days a year. Having to learn English is no
longer a requirement but one of the impediments. As you
heard Katherine Richard, the news side to the whole thing
working is the inability of these guys to buy a
house here. So where are they going to live? And
it's not going to change with when some Peter's still
in the whaka. So look, I'm not going to criticize

(06:46):
the scheme right now. Why would I. You know, it's
a gift horse, but you need to look at it
in the mouth. As I've said before, the government does
seem overly optimistic that foreign capital is going to stream
in and energize our economy. But we're talking for five
or ten million dollars here. Our economy, meanwhile, has plenty
of high wealth individuals right here New Zealanders, and they

(07:07):
have a spare ten million already, but their money is
not being used to spur productivity and entrepreneurship and invention.
Their money is packed in boats and batches and lifestyle
and capital assets that have always been a pathway in
New Zealand to personal wealth generation. It's not the money
that's the issue, it's the investment opportunities that that money

(07:29):
has to go to. Where are the new Zeros, Where
are the New Fisher and Pikeal health cares? Where are
they getting help right from the ground level to actually start,
and for companies like that to get off the launch
pad needs structural help in our tax system. We've been
talking about that for a couple of weeks with Nikola Willis.
In our R and D funding, which we're cutting. This

(07:51):
scheme doesn't help any of that at all. It's about
the money, but not about the investments. And it also
keeps the government in the business of picking winners, which
something bureaucrats have never got the hang off. So what
do you think you can text me ninety two ninety two?
Is this the new El Dorado. We'll talk about this
with Simon Bridges just before six, But next we're off
to salt to an American broadcaster from Sirius XEM who's

(08:14):
in New Orleans to see the Super Bowl. The full
hype is next on zeb B.

Speaker 1 (08:20):
The First Word on the News of the Day Early
Edition with Andrew Dickens and One Room to Make Your
Property Surge and symbol You Talk Zibby.

Speaker 3 (08:29):
It's seventeen minutes after five. It's Super Bowl Sunday in
the US. That's Super Bowl Monday.

Speaker 2 (08:34):
Here.

Speaker 3 (08:35):
It all gets underway on TV and ZEB and TV
and ZEB Plus from midday today. The bars are getting
ready for an influx. We love this thing. We've got
the Kansas City Chiefs taking on the Philadelphia Eagles at
Louisiana's super Dome and New Orleans they actually played once
before twenty twenty three. They played the Super Bowl as well,
So one guy wants to keep on winning and the
others want some redemption. As for the highly anticipated halftime show,

(08:59):
it'll be US rap Kendrick Lamar taking the stage fresh
from winning a whole heap of Grammys. And we've got
with me now Ben Harlem. Now Ben as a host
on Syrium x AM, which is a radio service in
the United States. Hollo, Ben, you're a New Orleans.

Speaker 7 (09:15):
I am Andrew.

Speaker 2 (09:16):
How are you this morning?

Speaker 3 (09:17):
I'm really good. What's New Orleans like? It looks like
it's in lockdown. The security is insane.

Speaker 7 (09:22):
Yeah, it's really crazy. Obviously after what happens here on
New Year's Eve. They've shipped in. There's about three thousand
different officers from police, from Homeland Security. There's helicopters always
going around. With the amount of celebrities. Donald Trump's going
to be here for the game, Like.

Speaker 3 (09:38):
Roads are closed.

Speaker 7 (09:40):
It's quite crazy in that aspect. It's also very crazy
in terms of the amount of people that are here,
whether they're just for the game, just for a party,
just to try and get in. It's a very different atmosphere.
But people are getting very excited in the last couple
of days, which is good.

Speaker 3 (09:54):
Well, I can imagine that if I was in America
and New Orleans was only a couple of hours away,
and even if I didn't have a ticket, you just
knew that Bourbon Street was going to go off.

Speaker 7 (10:03):
Oh absolutely. I mean every second bar that you look at,
there's a different company putting on a party. There's celebrities
that are going in and out. They say that it
will be about one hundred and twenty five thousand visitors
to New Orleans this week. The hotel demand is up
six hundred percent, which if you consider, like this is
the home of Mardi Gras, this is like a party city,
so for there to be so much extra demand, like

(10:26):
the city is going off this week.

Speaker 3 (10:27):
Meanwhile, apparently there's a football game.

Speaker 7 (10:31):
Yeah, funny that I know.

Speaker 3 (10:33):
That's that's the hype about the whole thing. If the
Chiefs win, it'll be their third and three years. As
I mentioned before, these guys met in twenty twenty three.
So there's a lot on the line.

Speaker 7 (10:42):
Yeah, absolutely, Like this is all about redemption. There's so
many different storylines. Like you don't see teams go three
in a row like they do here. It's supposed to
be you know, it's supposed to be party. They'supposed to
be different teams every time.

Speaker 2 (10:55):
But a lot of.

Speaker 7 (10:56):
Those Eagles players that were there a couple of years ago,
they are playing here again today, and well you know
that they're publicly trying to keep calm and say it's
just another game. You just know in the back of
their minds that a couple of years ago is really
sort of eating at them. So this is their chance
for a redemption.

Speaker 3 (11:13):
As you said, what team are you picking?

Speaker 7 (11:17):
Look, I want it to be a close game just
for my own you know, being there and being able
to watch the game. But I mean to be able
to go against Mahomes. But who does that? The Chiefs,
I think probably will win and get that three in
a row.

Speaker 3 (11:32):
And the halftime show. Of course, we've got the ads
on the telly, but we've also got Kendrick Laman. Now Kendricks,
He's he's quite a prickly little character. It's not like
Prince or Coldplay or Tom Pitty, is it.

Speaker 7 (11:43):
Oh No, it's very different. I met Kendrick Lama once
about ten years ago. He told me that I look
like Chucky from the horror film and that Chucky used
to scare him when he was growing up. So that
was my introduction to Kendrick Lamar. It's going to be
a great halftime show. The rumors are always you know
what's special guests are going to be coming in. This
year is all about his feud with Drake, who's been

(12:04):
in Australia and performing, so he he's left the country.
He doesn't want to see anything about it. But the
thing is, Drake has sued his record label and sued
Kendrick about this this disc track that he won all
the Grammys for, and there were rumors that maybe it
might not be on the set list today, but people
have seen the set list and they have confirmed that
that particular song is going.

Speaker 2 (12:24):
To be there.

Speaker 7 (12:25):
And now all eyes are going to be on any
special guests.

Speaker 3 (12:27):
Well, it's a big, big hit. And Ben Harlem from
Syrium XM. By the way, give my love to Howard Stern.
Thank you so much for joining us today. It's five
to many one. Can we play a little bit of
Kendrick just briefly now if you don't know this artist,
this is the artist. It's halftime to Evolve New Orleans
and the Superdome with scissors felt z A, all right,

(12:56):
we'll find out one that slag up from midday to
day as I say, TV TV and said plus more Sport.
I've got a text through from Terry actually who says?
Could you please ask Andrew Ordison how on earth is
Warren Gatland still in the job Terry. I'll do that
in a moment.

Speaker 1 (13:11):
Get ahead of the headlines on early edition Andrew Dickens
and one roof to make your property search simple news
Talk said.

Speaker 3 (13:19):
Be five twenty four Andrew Ordison on Sport. Hello Matte,
greetings Andrew. Ireland seventeen Scotland eight transmission as usual. Yeah,
well it's such a strong side Ireland. Are they in Scotland?

Speaker 8 (13:32):
Troney the best Murray Fields in Edinburgh. But yeah, it
looks like Ireland have the advantage at least at this point.
They're controlling that one.

Speaker 3 (13:41):
But the big story over the weekend other than you know,
England France. What a great game to watch I loved it,
loved it was lots of fun, just good old right.
But it wasn't good rugby, but it was fun rugby
to watch. But the big question was actually tries is
posed by Terry who texted me at ten minutes past
five this morning and said, could you please ask Andrew
Ordison how does Warren get and still in a job.

Speaker 8 (14:01):
Well, he's got to be struggling when you lose to Italy.
It's in two years running in a fourteenth straight defeat
for Whales, so it's not working out for Warren Gatland's
second time round. And obviously he's had the success with
the Lions or relative success, you know, leveling the series
in New Zealand back in twenty seventeen ago, long time ago.

(14:21):
And yeah, it's the clock sticking here. Rumors are swirling,
so we'll see what see what happened?

Speaker 3 (14:28):
What do they call him the great Redeemer or that
there was Graham Henry Graham Henry with a long line
and he's the on coach you can't take away.

Speaker 8 (14:35):
Warren Gatland's had a terrific coaching Korea, but those results
are starting to stack up and well fourteen of them.

Speaker 3 (14:42):
Tell me about Tian Welton.

Speaker 8 (14:44):
Yeah, well Christ it's ctterist sprinter Tian Weldon broke the
sixty meter record for New Zealand thinks sitting six point
five just a few weeks ago, and now he's run
the second fastest one hundred meters ten point one to
oh so just point two of a second outside that
record set by Eddie. I was saying Keith back in
twenty twenty two, who took it over from his father

(15:05):
Gus Net record was there for years ten point one one.

Speaker 3 (15:09):
I remember being at school when Gary Henley Smith said
at ten point four, so we're getting sort of getting
down there. He was a school boy, was it?

Speaker 8 (15:18):
I don't want to age you here, was it?

Speaker 3 (15:19):
Is it the seventies? Yeah, yes, yeah, I'm not laughing.
Of the generation it was the Begley brothers and Gary
Henley Smith for by one hundred or Congrammar took it
down every single time anyway. He was quite handy at
didn't go to the Conworth Games. Yeah yea yeah, but
good on jan and we're getting here. We're getting dynasty

(15:40):
with sprinters now final Zoe Hobbes as well. So it's it's.

Speaker 8 (15:44):
Yeah, it's a remarkable how these things swings roundabouts and
we had of course with throws now and also I
mean you have Eliza McCartney in the pole vault over
the years. Yeah, just different ones that come up at
different times. But yeah, good good work from her, good stuff.

Speaker 3 (15:57):
Andrew Ordison with Sports News five twenty.

Speaker 1 (15:59):
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Speaker 3 (16:06):
Talks of b seventeen eleven. Now as Scotland comes back now,
I like to take the time to applaud the outbreak
of common sense exhibited by Chris Bishop, the new Minister
of Transport. He has decided to revisit some of the
blankets speed limits imposed by his government in the wake
of concerns by locals. Can I just say it's his
government that does the blanket speed limits. They are the
ones who said fifty one hundred or one ten over

(16:27):
all roads, no matter the condition of the roads or
their usage. And they use the blanket speed limit phrase
as a vote catcher at the election. But the old
government actually left most speed limits in the hands of
local authorities, their roads, their rules. The Labor government issued
a schedule of over three hundred sections of road on
the State Highway network, which are the only roads they control.

(16:47):
So yeah, there were those, but that schedule was put
in place over dangerous roads, mainly around rural schools who
are concerned at motors screaming pass at pickup time at
one hundred k. Now, Chris Bishop has come out and
indicated he's going to listen to local concerns, which is
a good thing because until you use a road, you
don't know what an appropriate limit is. There's no way

(17:09):
a central government bureaucrat locked up in Wellington has any
idea of the local reality. Ask the people about how
they feel about the roads. And that's what Chris is doing,
which is smart and that's a good thing. Congratulations Chris.
It's coming up, how past we have the latest of
news remember just before sex Simon Bridges on the new
visa changes and we're right around the country in a

(17:30):
moment here on News Talks there b oh, and I'll
tell you about the dudes playing live in coramandle.

Speaker 1 (17:35):
On your radio and online on iHeartRadio Early edition with
Andrew Dickens and One Roof to make your Property Search
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Speaker 9 (17:45):
It be.

Speaker 3 (17:48):
Welcome back to the program for the tenth of February.
I'm Andrew Dickens and for Ryan Bridge. So on Friday
I told you I was off to the Coromandel Sea.
She had at the Kickdown Motorcycle Festival, and I was
a bit worried about going to a metal band and
that sort of environment. Turns out the event was an
absolute delight, balmy summer's evening, civilized food filled good times,

(18:08):
no public drunkenness, no public drunkenness, burnouts by supercharge Harley Davidson's.
They were great fun. We had dirt bike jumping and
we had this band, the Dudes. I hadn't seen this
band in ten years, so I found myself surrounded by
twenty somethings. I thought, well they know the song? Boy?

(18:29):
Did they know the song? They were singing along. It
was great. Maybe six thousand people there, and Peter Reurliz,
lead singer, blew his knee earlier in the tourist, so
he's got a big old table there that he's leaning
against and just singing along. It was hilarious. It was
great fun. And then we had the main act, she
Hard and John Too good. Wow, they were technically amazing.

(18:51):
They were grunted. I had some sixty year old companions
with me who'd never seen them before. They couldn't believe it.
They are just brilliant. And there are only a couple
of concerts left in the Fareweld tour, including the Big
Goodbye at Auklands Park Arena. And I urge you to
get along, if not to see the dunes, but also
to see She Had and D four. It was a superb,

(19:11):
superb night. It was everything that makes New zeal the magnificent.
So as twenty two to six seconds, it's time to
go around the country. Callum Proctor joins me from Dunedin.
Hello Callum YoY, morning Andrew. So what's happening with the
McDonald's and Wonnica.

Speaker 10 (19:27):
Well, well know, by the end of this week. Apparently
that's when the decision is due. The Queenstown Lakes District
Council's reviewed this resource consent application for McDonald's restaurant open
next to the Mounta high and Roundabout on the way
into Wanica. The Commissioning panel's final decision was supposed to
be late January, but in minutes released two weeks ago,
they stated it will be by the end of this week.

(19:50):
So McDonald's have made numerous concessions here. They're proposing new
opening hours of six am to eleven pm, so not
a twenty four hours restaurant. They've also agreed to reduce
the height of of their logo sign But more than
ninety percent of submitters are opposed to this opening. Protest
petition attracted more than six thousand signatures, so we'll wait

(20:11):
and see. Very good, how's your weather drizzle this morning?
Monitor shells This afternoon at eighteen.

Speaker 3 (20:17):
Claire Sherwood joins us from christis Hello Claire, Hello, good morning,
very good. You've got another charter school opening today.

Speaker 11 (20:23):
Yes, christ Church North College is the one to open today.
This is the second of the new charter schools down here, Andrew.
This one recognizes that some students face more obstacles to
their learning than others, and they say they aim to
put those obstacles aside by individualizing education. This school is
located in Burnside. It's one of seven new charter schools

(20:44):
opening across the country throughout this month. Former chisnel Wood
Intermediate principal Justin Fields is leading this college, which aims
to grow to a roll of fifty students within three years. Now,
Mastery schools is another one in Hillsborough here in christ Church,
as well as four schools in Auckland and the far
North welcome to students. Last week Northwest College also opens

(21:04):
a temporary campus in Auckland's Henderson.

Speaker 3 (21:07):
Today. How's Canterbury's weather?

Speaker 11 (21:09):
A bit cloudy this morning, possible drizzle too, turning to
rain by evening, easterlies easing and a high of twenty.

Speaker 3 (21:15):
Max toll from Wellington. Good morning, Good morning, Your mayor
has gone even more green?

Speaker 5 (21:20):
Well an interesting comment by Torri Farno in an interview
with our newsroom. Her historic Green Party allegiances, as you say,
no secret, but at the year twenty twenty two local
elections she ran as an independent candidate. She even gave
up her party membership because she said she wanted to
be a mayor for everyone. She wanted to afford strong
independent relationships with everyone at the council table. That obviously

(21:43):
has not happened in her current term, so throw that
out the window. What's also interesting is the Greens haven't
actually definitively said either way who they're endorsing, if anyone,
but you would have to think that Farno would have
strong assurances for her to say that to us, but
I suppose you never know with her. She restarted her
Green Party membership in April, acknowledging at the time that

(22:04):
should upset her base by pushing for asset sales like
the Wellington Airport share debacle.

Speaker 3 (22:10):
All right, how's your Wellington? I mean, how's your weather? Heat?

Speaker 5 (22:14):
Cloudy with a little drizzle this morning twenty one the
high Central.

Speaker 3 (22:17):
You've been written man and joins.

Speaker 12 (22:18):
Me in a sorry artitok a four at you.

Speaker 3 (22:20):
Yeah, it happens. So Mungathi finally gets to secondary school.

Speaker 12 (22:26):
Yes, exactly, celebration here and Hope says it's going to
fill that gap in the growing town. So Munga Phi
has a primary school, but the secondary students now they've
had to travel to Mungitude Auto or Welsford or borden Auckland.
But today the new independent school, Mungafi Hills College, that's
what it's called. It opens today, So initially opening with

(22:47):
up to twenty students in years seven to nine. And
Jill Corkan, she's the Mungapi Education Trust Chair. She says
that the residency hugely supportive. One of her regrets though,
is that it's not a state school that's open to
all of the families here munga Fi. But that's a
decision that the Education ministry has.

Speaker 3 (23:03):
Taken absolutely absolutely. Do you remember that Mangi Fi used
to came to national interest because they had.

Speaker 12 (23:08):
I don't even think I've ever been there, have you, lovely?

Speaker 9 (23:11):
I need to get out of it.

Speaker 3 (23:12):
Go to the heads, go to their heads and have
some fun. Mungifi was us in the national news because
they had some problems with their water scheme, you know,
and the residents at the time went, well, this is
gold plated, is far too huge. Now look at it now,
look at Mungifi. Now it is growing, it's turning into
a new where it is quite right. You need the water,
you need the schools. It's going to be a big thing.
How's orcand's weather today?

Speaker 12 (23:32):
Showers this afternoon. I'm pretty pleased that we are having
a bit of rankers. It's been so muggy, some possibly heavy,
but it will be clearing this afternoon or rather this
evening twenty six still muggy.

Speaker 3 (23:42):
Is the high in Auckland and also the gardens. The gardens, yes,
the gardens needed absolutely seventeen minutes to six on the
way Gavin Gray from the UK. You may have heard
about the couple of friends who are found dead and
it was all a bit strange and weird, like this
was out of the blue. Turns out it might have
been a professional it. So Kevin has the details on this,
and also Soviet Union electricity and before six Son Bridges

(24:07):
on the new.

Speaker 1 (24:08):
Visas international correspondence with ins andn Eye Insurance peace of
mind for New Zealand business.

Speaker 3 (24:15):
Kevin Gray joins us from the UK. Kevin, Hello, Hi there, Andrew.
Congratulations on beating France and Rugby. That was a good thing.

Speaker 9 (24:23):
A thank you. It's souldly exciting.

Speaker 3 (24:29):
Let's talk serious stuff. Estonia, Leatvia and Lithuania on the coast.
They have finally and they left the Soviet Union a
while ago, they have finally decided to stop taking the
Soviet Union's power.

Speaker 9 (24:42):
Yes, this sounds pretty minor, doesn't it. Minor stuff, but
actually I suggested as the lead story because frankly, this
is a major landmark change of direction, the direction in
which these countries are facing. As you said, they were
all part of the former USSR, but now Estonia, Latvia
and Lithuania who have continued to get their electricity through

(25:02):
Russia are now switching off this weekend still Sunday afternoon
here and adjoining the European Union network. They will now
be connected up to the energy sources through Poland. Why
does that matter? Will in the past, even though they
haven't been taking much electricity from Russia over the last
couple of years, it is still thought to be that
dependence and a hold over those countries that Russia continue

(25:24):
to have and threats some would say from the Kremlin
about what might happen if they fall out of line. Well,
now that energy line has been switched off from Russia
and turned on from Poland. Local residents were told to
charge devices, stock up on food and water prepare as
if it was a severe weather forecast, because they weren't

(25:45):
quite sure how smoothly andrew it was going to be
in effect. Though it's all gone pretty well at the moment,
and certainly now it is going to be perhaps a
change of face, and now even more that they're in NATO,
perhaps a move towards joining the European.

Speaker 3 (25:59):
Union as well that will make Plea to be even
more angry now. I was interested in this story about
a British couple who have found murdered in their home
in France at those times called jetes. They've been retired
and they seem completely mild and ordinary. Thought Will was
a murdered suicide. What the hell happen? But now this suggestion,
now there's a suggestion that's a professional hit.

Speaker 9 (26:21):
Yes, not confirmed by the police. Post mortem examinations are
being carried out in about twenty hours time Monday, French time.
And well, this has been a mystery. It's certainly a
double murder. The retired couple had gone from the UK
to seek quieter life in the south of France, but

(26:41):
then all of a sudden they were discovered. It is
reported that the wife's body, Dawn Searle, was found naked
and outside, with jewelry scattered beside her. Andrew Searle is
reported this is not confirmed. Andrew but reported to have
been found inside, gagged and hanged. Now why apart from

(27:02):
bizarre the initial thoughts were a burglary gone wrong? Why
is this raised interest? Well, it now reveals that the husband,
Andrew Searl used to be a major figure in fighting
organized crime finances. He was an investigator in looking at
the money made by organized crime in the UK and
all of a sudden, of course, that has led to

(27:23):
fears that this might have been a hit, a paid
for killing from the UK but taking place in France.
Now we don't know, but there are reports that his
body wore marks of being injured, perhaps even dere tortured.
Horrific for the son and daughter who remain in the
UK hearing this. I don't want to jump the gun,
as I said post mortem examination in a few hours time.

(27:47):
That certainly the fact that somebody is so prominent in
looking at anti bribery, fraud all those sorts of things
should have been murdered in this way without seeming there
to be any motive at all, has generated lots of
on social media.

Speaker 3 (28:01):
Gavin Great from the UK, I thank you for your time.
It is now eleven to six Andrew Dickens. So that's
the big story of the day. That in the Cook
Islands well, the governments relaxed visa settings to encourage more
foreign investments, replacing the current waiting system with two new categories,
the growth and the balanced category. For the growth category,
you'll need at least five million dollars and that needs

(28:21):
to be invested for a minimum of three years. And
you have to live here three weeks of a year.
Ten million dollars is for the balance category, and that's
ober a long period of time, and you will have
to spend one hundred and five days living here. The
OrCAD Business Chamber Chief Executive Simon Bridges with me right now,
you were also at the MC at the presentation, weren't you.

Speaker 2 (28:42):
That's exactly right, Andrew, good morning.

Speaker 3 (28:44):
Good morning to you. So haven't we done this before?

Speaker 4 (28:48):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (28:48):
And I think you look at you if you look
at the results over time under more permissive settings, if
you want to say that, the result is pretty clear.
A lot of are very wealthy came and I think
history shows they invested in our best companies, golf courses,
they made bequeath to our art guerries. They had an
oversized contribution to New Zealand then we tidened them up.

(29:09):
I think. I think it was under the last labor
government and we saw less of that. Right, So, you know,
I think possibly in New Zealanders don't quite understand how
much good investor migrant settings can be really important to
our economic success. I'm sure as they'll need that at
the moment, that's.

Speaker 3 (29:24):
True, But at the same time, art galleries and golf courses.
Is really, is that the way to generate wealth and
have wealth creation in this country? It's not really, It's
not really the zeros and the fisher and pacal health cares?

Speaker 2 (29:35):
Is it? My personal view right now? As big as
can't be true, it chooses we have to do things.
I mean, think, if you want to want to critique
on this, at one level, it's actually hate good. But
there's so much more to do. We're in a negative
growth environment. We have to get to positive growth and
we need boldness. And one of the things I put
to the ministers and the Prime Minister yesterdays. You know,
people can have all sorts of views of Trump, and

(29:57):
look I do too, but what he has done with
quite bold steps on corporate text in the light as
he has stirred the animal spirits of business and so
you know, I think I take your point, but I
do think the reality of you know that the vineyards,
the golf courses, actually the zeros, the rocket mAbs who
private migrant investors were instrumental in at the start, is

(30:20):
as they create a big jobs that are higher paying,
that create in the end higher standards of living.

Speaker 3 (30:25):
This is true. There's two parts of the equation. Of course,
there's the money. We already have money in New Zealand,
and there's high wealth individuals New Zealanders who have high wealth,
and one of their problems is that they don't actually
invest in businesses, the stock market and other areas to
actually put in some working venture capital is not good here.
And the other half of the equation is the actual
things that we put investments into. So do we have

(30:48):
the investments that some guy from overseas will come here
and go, I'll put some money in.

Speaker 2 (30:53):
I think the point you make the receise you at
the point we haven't got time for. I tend to
agree with you, right. I think though actually a lot
of high network New Zealanders they need a bit more
confident in the economies. That comes back to my boldness
point in terms of the investment. Yeah, you know what
I think we do. I think if you look at
Silicon Valley and I've been there a couple of times
and talk to some really big venture capital firms, it's

(31:15):
a fascinating experience. The reality there is there is more
capital than good investible propositions. The truth in New Zealand
is there are so many startups that are amazing that
if they were in Silicon Valley would get the money,
would get us sort of fifty million dollars from an
andres In Horowitz or something that they don't get here.
So I hear what you say. I still think there's

(31:37):
a capital issue, and I still think actually the thing
you get with you know, a rich American or German
or whatever coming in here, is they do have a
bit more of that culture of investing in these things
and giving them a whirl, probably because of their life
experience in those countries.

Speaker 3 (31:53):
Well, maybe you could have a chat to your successes
and actually suggests that maybe some corporate tax changes, particularly
for startups might actually help people along the way to
bring the money in. Simon, thank you so much once
again for your time, and enjoy your week.

Speaker 2 (32:04):
Mate.

Speaker 3 (32:05):
Heykay buddy, it is now six minutes two six.

Speaker 1 (32:09):
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Speaker 3 (32:18):
You've talked SIDB four to six. I've got a text
on nuety two ninety two saying what is Mark Brown's background?
What's the CV? So he's always been a public servant.
You've got a degree at Massi University in public sector management,
a master's in business administration for the University of the
South Pacific. Then he worked in the Prime Minister's office
at the Cocoa Islands. He's been the head of Ministry
of Agriculture and look at that. Like all politicians, he's

(32:40):
also a property developer. And now he's in China doing
a deal which has made everyone unhappy because no one
knows what the deal is. Mike Hostkin joins me, Now, well,
are they unhappy.

Speaker 13 (32:50):
Or we just is it a Winston thing? So it's
a personality thing. So in other words, he rang up
said I like a meeting, and the guy said, no,
I can't be bothered, you know what I mean?

Speaker 3 (32:58):
Like Laxton said, well, you know, just a little bit
of opency and transparency classicalse The Cook Island people are going,
what are you going to do there? He hasn't told
his own people.

Speaker 13 (33:05):
Opposition leader from the Cooks this morning on the program. Also,
I only heard part of your interview, did you what?
So I've got ten million dollars can I buy Fisher
and Pikel Healthcare? Is that an investment? So that's over
five years. I'll do that for five years.

Speaker 3 (33:21):
And I come, how do you determine what's a higher
risk bureaucrats in Wellington who's actually picking winners and losers?

Speaker 13 (33:28):
Yeah, so that's interesting, isn't it. So you want to
know what they're investing in and whether or not it's
passive as they say, and you just park the money
here for a couple of years and eventually they need
to change the house thing too. So you can see
this coming, can't you. So in a couple of weeks time,
someone's going to have to get Winston over the line
on that one.

Speaker 3 (33:45):
They need to change their coalition pack exactly. Anyway, Nikola
Willison the Cook Islands, very good stuff. My name is
Andrew Dickins. Thank you to Kenzie producer, and see you
tomorrow for more.

Speaker 1 (33:55):
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