March 2, 2025 • 34 mins
On the Early Edition with Full Show Podcast for Monday 3rd of February 2025, Auckland's getting a new police training facility, Associate Minister for Police Casey Costello tells Andrew Dickens how it will help with reaching the Government's goal of increasing the number of frontline police by 500.
Former US Defence Department Official Jeffrey Price analyses the weekend's spectacle between US President Trump and Ukraine's President Volodymyr Zelensky where Trump told Zelensky to make a deal with Russia or the
US would be out.
And UK/Europe Correspondent Gavin Grey shares the latest on the European leaders summit in London where security talks have been under way.
Newstalk ZB's Elliot Smith shares the latest on the Black Caps facing India in the ICC Champions trophy in South Africa.
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Speaker 1 (00:02):
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Speaker 2 (00:12):
Be that's good morning to you and welcome to the
working week. Coming up in the next hour, the Trump
Zelenski meltdown. So is it for America in the war
and in the peace? We've got a former US Defense
Department official in about five minutes time, we're going to
look at the weekend in Sport with Elliot Smith. And
yes we're going to talk about the warriors, and yes
we're going to talk about the cricket, and I'll keep
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you in touch with the cricket as well. Gavin Gray
from the UK on Ukraine and the Pope. And we're
talking to Casey Costello on the new police training facility
that's to be built finally in Auckland and changes to
our firearms laws. All this plus correspondents from around New
Zealand and around the world, and news as it breaks.
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up to five. The agenda today, if you need to know,
is Monday, the third of March. European leaders have been
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arriving at a major summit in London. They're discussing security
support for Ukraine.
Speaker 3 (01:22):
We're going to mix today because visits the generation comand
the security of Europe.
Speaker 4 (01:29):
Talk to Ukraine is.
Speaker 1 (01:31):
Not much.
Speaker 4 (01:36):
Every night.
Speaker 2 (01:38):
So that was UK President's a kis starmer. He's hosting
the summit. He gave Zelenski a big hug when Zelensky
arrived a day after. You know what he says, This
is kis Tadama says, the UK and France are going
to work with Ukraine to stop the fighting, to have
a peace plan, and they need to discuss that peace
plan with the US as they go forward.
Speaker 3 (01:57):
We have to bridge this. We have to find a
way that we can all work together because in the end,
we've had three years of bloody conflict. Now we need
to get to that lasting piece. And I have to
say I've spoken to President Trump a number of times.
I've met him twice. We had a long session on Thursday.
I'm clear in my mind that he does want lasting peace.
Speaker 2 (02:21):
Yes, so Prision Zelensky is also going to get to
talk with King Charles right after the summer is finished.
Now to Rome, we go and the Vatican Seer's Pope Francis,
who has been in hospital for just over two weeks
fighting double pneumonia, had a peaceful night and has been resting.
He had a bit of a health zip back on Friday,
a breathing crisis on Friday, renewing concerns over his wellbeing.
Speaker 5 (02:42):
His lungs had to be aspirated, that they had to
be cleared of obstruction, and then the Pope had been
given oxygen a face mask essentially to help him to breathe.
But we were told that the Pope was alert throughout,
that he didn't lose consciousness, and even that he was
in good spirits.
Speaker 2 (02:58):
Yesterday evening and finally, authorities have launched a probe into
what they said were the suspicious deaths of Hollywood legend
Gene Hackman and his wife Betsy ata Kava. So things
have changed a bit. Santa Fey Sheriff Aiden Mendoz says
Hackman had likely been dead for over a week when
he was found with his wife and their new Mexico home,
and a statement issued on Thursday. Hackman's family said, of
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course that they were devastated by the loss, and that
he was loved and admired by millions around the world
for his brilliant acting career, and that is true. It
is nine after.
Speaker 6 (03:28):
Five the first word on the News of the Day
early edition.
Speaker 1 (03:33):
With Andrew Dickens and one Room to make your property
search and symbol you talk sippy.
Speaker 2 (03:39):
So it's always good to read the business pages. That's
where you all hear the real stories about the economy
and not the politicians roast into dreams. So I was
reading this unday our Times yesterday and there was a
spokesperson from the Reserve Bank talking about our investment rules
and he says the bank reckons that are not a
growth obstacle because of course you hear them corporate tax
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breaks all the time, and how this would help our growth.
He doesn't believe that corporate tax payers tax breaks would
be as effective in raising productivity as some people say.
So business investment fell significantly in the last half of
last year, and the Reserve Bank governor said that's the
one thing he's most worried about. So business investment is
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where you invest your money back in your business. It's
seen as the key to innovation, productivity and growth. But
our business investment level is below the OECD average, as
is our productivity. So if businesses are not investing in
those areas, where is the money going. Well, it's not
going on corporate tax I can tell you the bank,
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the Reserve Bank says it's going back to shareholders in
the form of dividends.
Speaker 7 (04:48):
So, as New.
Speaker 2 (04:48):
Zealanders, we love our dividends, that is income while you
still own the shares that created it. It's like a
percentage of your capital gains as you go. Wouldn't you
love to have a dividend on your house a payment
you receive every time your house value increase. Well you
don't get that. That's not possible. Who would pay it?
But you do get dividends. And businesses like to give
dividends to their shareholders to keep the shareholders on their register.
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But it's still giving money back to the shareholders and
all the while it's holding businesses back from reinvesting in
what they do.
Speaker 4 (05:22):
Now.
Speaker 2 (05:22):
The Reserve Bank has said that attitude has to fundamentally
change to long term productivity. What do you think? Do
you agree? And that is the challenges for businesses and shareholders.
Are you prepared to take the long hold or do
you want the cash now? And if you want the
cash now, don't expect productivity to magically grow. Have we
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seen the myth figures? With all the myth we're consuming,
you think our productivity would be up. We're spedding away
like Billio. New Zealand meth use more than doubled in
the second half of twenty twenty four. It's the highest
level yet recorded. According to the analysis of our wastewater,
nearly thirty kilos worth of meth consumed in October. Now
why Mexican Asian cartels are flooding the market with the
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help of our friends, the motorcycle gangs, the ones we
hampered with the gang patch man just took the patches
off and worked even harder. They're selling drugs like crazy.
And I don't need to tell you that this is
a particularly New Zealand scourge. I mean New Zealanders love
this stuff. I don't know why. What is there to
love about it? It corrodes your health, it distorts your mind,
It amplifies any violent streak you have. We love it,
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and this is a battle we are losing. So there's
going to be more on this after seven on the
Mike Hosking Breakfast Show. But I just wanted to point
out the figures because this is our horror show. Now.
Speaking of horror shows, everybody on Friday sat down and
watched ten minutes of that interview. Some of us went
and watched the whole fifty minutes of the press conference.
If that, if you could call it that, between Trump
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and Jadie Vance at of course, President Zelenski, what a road.
We're going to talk about this in a few moments
time with a former US Defense Department official, And my
question is is America out now of both the war
and the peace.
Speaker 6 (07:09):
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Speaker 2 (07:20):
You talk said be we all got to see it,
the huge spectacle of the weekend between US President Donald Trump,
Vice President Jedy Vance, and Ukraine's President Volodimyr Zolensky. I'll
take you back there.
Speaker 8 (07:32):
You're gambling with World War three. You're gambling with World
War three, and what you're doing is very disrespectful to
the country. This country's thank you, far more than a
lot of people said they should have.
Speaker 9 (07:47):
Have you said thank you once.
Speaker 7 (07:50):
In this entire media.
Speaker 10 (07:51):
You said, who.
Speaker 2 (07:53):
Yeah, Okay, it was fire, he wasn't it. And President
Trump told Zelenski to make a deal with Russia or
the US will be out. European leaders are now meeting
in London for a summit to discuss an outcome for
all of this. They're prepared to give security guarantees. Former
US Defense Department official Jeffrey Price joins me now from America. Hello, Jeffrey, A.
Speaker 4 (08:12):
Good morning, getting warded everybody who's up so early in
New Zealand.
Speaker 2 (08:15):
How's America reacting to what happened? You know? They are
they happy with their president or not? Or is it
split the next Like the rest of the world.
Speaker 4 (08:23):
There is a bit of a split. Many Republicans are
at least publicly defending what the President and Vice President
Vance did, but a great many Americans are frankly embarrassed.
It was a disaster, no matter how you look at it.
And this is the kind of diplomacy that should not
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be taking place on television exactly. And so I don't
think anybody comes out ahead except for the Russians.
Speaker 2 (08:49):
Well, let's talk about what actually happened to that, because
that's the other thing the analysis of it gives has
got all weird too. So at the basic point of it,
President Donald Trump will not agree to a ceasfire plan
if it includes a security guarantee, and Zelenski demands a
security guarantee. So if Trump won't include a security guarantee,
does that mean America is out now of both the
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war and the peace.
Speaker 4 (09:15):
I don't think.
Speaker 7 (09:16):
So.
Speaker 4 (09:16):
This is so important for the security of Europe, for
the security of the world, that we have to come
to some resolution here. And the problem is that we're
We've got the Americans, we've got the Europeans, we've got
the Ukrainians and the Russian So it's a complicated negotiation.
The last time we had something that's similar to me
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was the war in Bosnia in the nineties, when you
had different players as well. So Zelensky is going to
want to see that any ceasefire does not just allow
repeated aggression. There needs to be some deterrence of future
Russian aggression in any ceasefire that is likely going to
involve Europeans. And the question that's being discussed during the
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Americans and Europeans and the Ukrainians. Is is what role
the United States might have, say backstopping what will be
at the front a European presence that's also being worked out.
Speaker 2 (10:16):
Right, So security guarantees guaranteed by Europe. But if it
all got a bit pear shaped and Putin still took
them on, that America might come back in.
Speaker 4 (10:27):
So America plays a crucial role even when we're not
at the front of a conflict in logistics and command
and control and intelligence surveillance. So anytime you have a
serious conventional force right now, NATO was organized to have
America at the core. When we had the war in Bosnia,
it started out with a European force under UN command
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that did not work. It was replaced by a NATO
lead force with a one third American component that did work.
So I think that's what people might be thinking thinking
about President Trump is me career, he doesn't want the
United States to be in a front role. But to me,
any force that's going to be credible and effective is
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either going to have to be a NATO force or
something like a NATO force, even if it's a europe
well tiller in NATO.
Speaker 2 (11:19):
The Europeans are starting to talk about a European force
to run in conjunction with a NATO, and NATO seems
to be completely deep powered. It's a very interesting time.
And Jeffrey Price, I thank you so much for your thoughts.
And I had my own thoughts before five thirty. It
is a five twenty sport. There's a sport, and what
a weekend of sport there was. And I watched the
Warriors and I then went to the Gulf because I
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was so angry. Elliot Smith's Nicks News.
Speaker 1 (11:45):
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Speaker 2 (11:55):
It's now twenty two minutes after five. I thought I'd
be updating the cricket all the way through this hour,
but I won't because they've just lost and Indian India
has won by forty four runs. New Zealand got to
two hundred and five. And Elliot Smith joins.
Speaker 10 (12:06):
Me right now morning, Andrew.
Speaker 2 (12:07):
Not the end of the world though, because Semy's coming
on Wednesday. But not a good practice run.
Speaker 10 (12:13):
No, and it was actually looking quite good but came Williamson,
who made eighty one, couldn't find anyone to stick with him.
They had partnerships of thirty forty ish for a couple
of players, but the spinners, the Indian spinners took hold
in the Dubai wicket and what was quite promising one
hundred and thirty three for three and thirty third over
chasing two fifty but is a none could stick with.
Came Williamson and bowled out for two hundred and five.
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Been so on Wednesday night.
Speaker 2 (12:36):
Okay, so South Africa is next. Okay, Ration got six,
Rasia Ravender got six, Darrell got seventeen, Tom Latham fourteen,
then Phillips twelve. But all those players have stood up
before in the tournaments that we've played over the last
couple of weeks, so they've been and now and now
finally Cain has got a biggish score. So you've got
to say we're all good for a semi.
Speaker 10 (12:58):
Let's hope it all comes together in a see final
against South Africa. You know we've got the wood on
them traditionally and some of those big games. So you
think back to twenty fifteen World Cup semi final there
at Eden Park, so there's president there and back to Lahaus.
They went to Dubai for this one, back to lahaw
for Wednesday, Art semi final.
Speaker 2 (13:14):
The Warriors were beaten too. Everything.
Speaker 10 (13:17):
Yes, that was pretty poor, wasn't it.
Speaker 2 (13:19):
What did you say to me before you said it
was like they were still in pre season.
Speaker 10 (13:22):
Yes, there was no attacking structure, no defensive structure. I
was not sure what they've been doing for, you know,
months on end. Very disappointing. And I don't know whether
it was the Vegas bright lights or whatever, but I
think there was more to it.
Speaker 2 (13:35):
The commentoes were going on about how thin the field
is and so why weren't they putting it out wide
because we were all crammed up in the middle, So
I thought that.
Speaker 10 (13:42):
Didn't seem to be any ability to build pressure on
the Raiders. The tries that the Warriors got were opportunistic
towards the end of each half. Very disappointing. And the Raiders,
who were not expected to be out there this season,
and indeed the Warriors went into that game as favorites,
well they absoutely belted the war So a lot of
soul searching to do, and now this allegation this morning
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that Richard Agar, one of the Warriors assistants, has basically
throttled a British journalist in the press box. So the
nrols investigating that, the Warriors looking into it as well.
So couldn't have gone much worse, to be honest, yesterday, Andrew.
Speaker 2 (14:16):
But that's why I then went over to the golf. Yes,
this was very pretty. There wasn't that uplifting it was
and Ricky Punting got an eagle on the seventh, which
shows you when you play a program, you actually can
play some pretty good golf.
Speaker 10 (14:26):
He's pretty handy. Ricky Ponting and the winner of that
tournament as well, a former bikey who's turned his life
around and greatly great tats, great hats, impolitely and well
Lydia Coe won the women's World Championship in Singapore, so
she's had a great weekend and.
Speaker 2 (14:40):
Of course, thank you so much. Eerlie Smith on Sport
five to twenty.
Speaker 1 (14:42):
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Talks at Me news Talks be it is five twenty
seven now. Who didn't see the Trump Zelenski mountdown coming?
I did. I knew this was going to be a
disaster right from the start. Didn't expect so much drama.
The whole thing for a week or so more has
been a show for the crowds and not a real
play for peace. Because it was obvious before the summit.
President Zelenski made it very clear that he wants US
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cease fire but with security guarantees. And President Trump made
it very clear that he wants to seize fire, but
he wouldn't give security guarantees. That's the heart of the matter,
that is the heart of it. Reportedly, America told Zelenski
not to mention the security guarantees at the press conference.
But as I say, that is the heart of Zelensky's possession.
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He does not trust Putin because they've had US cease
fire with Putin before that Putin promptly broke. Why would
you trust Vladimir I. Remember, this isn't a conflict that's
three years old. This has been going on since twenty
fourteen in various guyses. So Trump made it very clear
he wants out and he wants a playoff of minerals.
For everything that US has put in so far, and
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remember he has a mandate for that, he campaigned on it.
He's been public about it the whole way. He got
the vote. So when they meet and the press started recording,
Trump Advance spoke as though their plan was a fader complete,
but it wasn't. Ukraine always said no security guarantee, no deal.
So when Zelensky started reminding him or both of them
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of what happened in the past, Trump Advance went two
on one, didn't they and they bullied him. They gave
him a lesson. It was school yard stuff, beating up
an immigrant kid with English as the second language, and
the Americans loved it. And that's who Trump and Vance
were actually playing to the American public, the American public
that voted for Trump, that are sick of trillions of
their dollars going to a place they barely know. The
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American public is now saying Zelensky wants to continue with
the war, but that's not so. He wants a peace.
He wants a cease fire, but with a security guarantee.
He doesn't want a piece that lasts for just a week.
So Putin must be loving this. America is now seemed
to be selfish and irrelevant and looking after itself, while
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Europe's under investment in defense is clearing Europe is prepared
to ensure the peace, but America is not. And by
the way, can I please remind everyone who goes on
about Zelensky being not in a suit that back in
the day when Winston Churchill went to Washington to convince
America to enter World War Two, he came dressed in
a military boiler suit, and that was to signify he
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was in an actual war, which the Americans weren't. Zelensky
is in an actual war. Trump and Vans are not.
Andrew Dickens I watched Q and A for the first
time this year. Wasn't bad? Guy in Esperner was hosting it.
Hell and clacss of interesting things. We'll talk about that.
Gavin Gray from the UK, Howard's The Pope and before six,
(17:40):
Casey Castello on the New Police Trading School.
Speaker 1 (17:46):
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make your property search simple, youth, talg Zibby.
Speaker 2 (18:08):
Welcome to your week. Third of BArch, first week of
marsh or Reddy. Can you believe it still hot for
much of New Zealand? Judy writes to me, Andrew, funny
how Elon must doesn't wear a suit? And that seems
to be okay. He wears a baseball cap as well.
What's happening there? And I know, but you know, Zelensky
can't wear military clothing even though he's actually in a war.
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Someone else writes, Andrew, you can't be that stupid. So
this is their their thought. That their thought is. There
is two parts. The first is the minerals deal in
a ceasefire, and the second part is the long term
deal with the Russians with security guarantees for Ukraine. The
economic arrangement is also a security guarantee. Now, well, I said,
all that's that's true in a way, but that is
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the Trump deal. That is not what Ukraine wants. That's
not what Zelenski wants. He wants first a cease fire
with security guarantees because he honestly believes that Putin will
we back in before you know it? And how can
he possibly get any economic arrangement, you know, if there
isn't already a security guarantee in place with with you know,
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with America and Europe to protect them from Putin, who
could just go in just like that. He's done it before.
So yeah, you're write Texter, that is the way the
deal would look from the Trump point of view, but
that's not the way that Ukrainians want it to look like.
Therefore there is a problem and they start shouting at
each other. Excellent. Hey, I watched Q and A for
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the first time this year. By the way, Guy and
Espert are hosting it at the moment. Yesterday's program was
with Helen Clark. Helen Clark just turned seventy five last week.
She was not fond of five Eyes anymore. She says
it's got mission creep. She said, it used to be
secret and purely about intelligence. Now it's turning into some
intergovernmental policy agency. Lately, they've released statements on migration. You're
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supposed to not even know the thing exists. The fact
that we know it exists is a failure of what
it was set up to do. That was Helen Clark's
point of view. It was quite interesting. But the thing
about Helen Clark is that it was nice to hear
an interview with someone who knows her own mind and
speaks her position clearly. Even if you don't agree with it,
you know, that's all you want. Something that the new
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bunch of politicians could certainly learn. Twenty one to six
right around the country we go. Callen Proctor joins us
from Tuneedan. Hello, Callum, Yes, morning Andrew. So we've got
a plant that's in the water of a major tourist destination.
So what is this part? Whereabouts is this?
Speaker 11 (20:31):
It's called Lagris siphon. Let's speak problem this one. It's
an invasive weed clogging up the water in Lake Wanica
and so Land Information New Zealand's leading the charge on
trying to eradicate this Lagri siphon two months or a
two month long process. We'll see four rugby fields worth
of Hessian mats laid on the lake's floor, laid by
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divers to smother this weed. This will help try and
build on progress made over the last two decades. It
has to be done for the lake to survive and
can continue to be a major tourist attraction. Biosecurity manager
Tracy Burton says it's essential this work because the plant
can take over and choke the waterway completely if left untouched.
Speaker 2 (21:12):
How's your weather?
Speaker 11 (21:14):
Our periods a rain right around Otago Dunedin gets as well.
Twenty one the high today.
Speaker 2 (21:18):
I thank you Claire sherew it joins us fro christ
Church tally clear.
Speaker 12 (21:21):
Good morning.
Speaker 2 (21:21):
So Christchurch Girls High needs earthquake rebuild. When's that going
to start?
Speaker 13 (21:26):
I know, Andrew, Look, after fourteen years, we're told this
final piece of the puzzle for Girls High will be
this year. So it was decided the school needed an
entirely new main block in twenty twenty after they tried
for five years to strengthen the existing one. Consultants that
advised it would just be better to rebuild. The Ministry's
Regional Infrastructure Manager, Simon Crookshank, says that redevelopment is part
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of the christ Church School rebuild program, which was meant
to finish by twenty twenty. He says the projects now
in design and we'll move to construction by the end
of this year. There's concerned though it won't even be
fit for purpose. Principal Helen Armstrong says the builds for
eleven hundred students, despite them having almost thirteen hundred. She
says the school's been extremely patient. That is also very frustrated,
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as it deserves a good quality building that meets the
needs of their students.
Speaker 2 (22:15):
Yes, indeed, Now, how's your weather cloud increasing?
Speaker 13 (22:18):
With passable rain a bit later Southerly's the high should
be twenty five.
Speaker 2 (22:23):
Maxtel joins us from Wellington Halla Mac good morning. We
have a missing man and people are hunting for them.
So there's a new development. Yeah.
Speaker 9 (22:30):
The police have been looking for Travis Langford for a
month and a half now. He went missing traveling from
Wellington to Waikattle. Twenty four year old's car was later
found burned out at a farm in a Nadoma that's
quite a rural area east of Tekuwiti. Emergency services private
ones too have turned up nothing. There's a sense that
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authorities have a fair idea of what he's up to,
but just can't put that final piece together. There have
been credible sightings of him in the Wye Pappa and
among a keynot areas. Another incredible sighting that he appeared
to be hitchhiking on the side of the road. Police
appealing for more information from the public, specifically for a
man traveling around south white cattle in long pants, no shoes,
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wearing a backpack. Police urging people to check their outbuildings, sheds, barns,
abandoned buildings on their properties for this man. Travis, did you.
Speaker 2 (23:25):
Just say no pants, no long pants, shoes no shoe,
which is the better combination? I would have thought they
would have been very easy to find some shoes. Okay,
so how's Wellington's were.
Speaker 9 (23:38):
There mostly find today's strong Northeries twenty three the High Central.
Speaker 2 (23:42):
Neither rit around? Who joins us from aalkanhellen? Neither no pants?
Speaker 12 (23:45):
Good morning.
Speaker 2 (23:46):
I was just standard by this story that is the
university using AI tutors to teach people, Yes, to teach people.
Speaker 4 (23:55):
It's right.
Speaker 14 (23:55):
It came out over the weekend. And now what's happened
is that Auckland Unis defended its use of AI tutors.
And this isn't a digital marketing course. So the students,
they've expressed outrage on Reddit over compulsory tutorials and marketing
three Go four being led by an AI tutor. That's right, Andrew.
So they questioned is the university allowed to take this approach?
(24:16):
A business school spokesperson says the tutors they don't replace
in person teaching, they're used as supplementary learning tools. They
also say that this technology has undergone some testing, provides
factual content to support student learning.
Speaker 2 (24:31):
Hope you hope?
Speaker 4 (24:32):
Yeah.
Speaker 14 (24:33):
So the course is a two hour tutorial in person
every week as well. So let's see what happens on
this one.
Speaker 2 (24:39):
All right, how's Aukan's weather okay?
Speaker 14 (24:40):
Partnery cloudy today, still warm Auckland's high twenty five.
Speaker 2 (24:43):
Pauline writes to me Andrew, the free world needs America's
protection just as Churchill knew it did for World War Two.
Couldn't agree more, and it needs it now more than ever.
Couldn't agree more, And Pauline writes, China is watching with
great interest. Yes, and God bless America. Double excavation. Matt
China's Defense ministry spokesperson on Thursday warn Taiwan that we
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will come and get you sooner or later, so they
see that there's a gap. It was a press conference
on Thursday grabbed attention inside China because apparently that's a
line from a Record Baking children's movie called Neja two,
and then the film the line was given by a groundhog.
But yes, she's all go all around the world. More
on this with Gavin Gray from the UK and also
(25:26):
before six Casey Costello. There's a new police training facility
it's in Auckland first time ever. Plus new firearms laws
it's all.
Speaker 1 (25:34):
Coming international correspondence with ends and eye insurance, peace of
mind for New Zealand Business.
Speaker 2 (25:41):
Thirteen to six. Gavin Graham the UK Hellokevin, and you've
got Zelenski. What's happening.
Speaker 15 (25:48):
Yeah, big meeting there in London, Lancaster House, right in
the heart of London. Plenty of people outside Downing Street
chairing when the President of Ukraine, Miss Zelenski arrived and
the Prime Minister. So that really does reflect the strength
of feeling for the country. Now with you to get
a press conference in about ten fifteen minutes, Andrew. But
(26:10):
you know, this is all about really trying to work
out how US europe relationships are going to develop, and
also of course what can the Ukrainians expect now from Europe.
Will Europe step up and do the heavy lifting. But
even if they do that heavy lifting, by which I
may even mean boots on the ground, more money, more arms,
(26:32):
more logistics, they are demanding or they need they stay
American air cover. And that is something at the moment
that Donald Trump says he's not going to supply, but
we do know he flip blops.
Speaker 4 (26:43):
Yeah, I know.
Speaker 2 (26:44):
But at the same time, this conversation is not about
continuing the war. It's about a piece. It's about having
a piece with a security guarantee, which everyone's getting a
bit confused. They think that Zelenski now wants to carry
on with the war, but he wants to have a
security guarantee, boots on the ground to make sure that
Putin doesn't come back once they come up with some deal.
Speaker 15 (27:02):
Yeah, there was speculation, not confirmed, speculation that Donald Trump
thinks that if the American companies start digging for the
minerals in the east and north of Ukraine, by the
very fact they're American Putin, wouldn't you try and evade again.
But that's what the Europeans say is not right, and
that's why they want this proper action plan in place
(27:24):
for the peace.
Speaker 2 (27:25):
Now. Pope Francis had a bit of a turn on Friday,
but he's come right.
Speaker 15 (27:30):
Yes, I mean, I wouldn't say completely right. But he was,
of course, for the third week in a row, absent
and unable to deliver his traditional Angelus prayer in person.
Each week, visitors go to the Vatican, usually gathering on
Sent Peter Square to see the Pope. Third weekend, he's
not been there. He's spent most of that time in hospital.
He's still there and it was said that he had
(27:52):
written the text from his hospital room in the past
few days and that was read out for him, and
he told flicks around the world that he felt their
affection and closeness and said my quote, I feel as
if I'm carried and supported by God's people. He'd had
a peaceful night last night, but this was following, as
you seller, a second breathing crisis as it was called
(28:14):
at the start of the weekend. He received extra oxygen
the ball, but we're being told he was not inturbated,
in other words, did not have one of those breathing
tubes down his throat. So positive news in that sense,
but still a long way from being out of the woods.
Speaker 2 (28:29):
Kevin, I thank you so much. It is now a
live in to six ridiculous all right. Orkan's getting a
police training facility. Currently one to be cops have to
spend twenty weeks of police courage in Poiliua, but the
government yesterday announced a new facility to make it more accessible.
It's also supposed to help with the target of increasing
frontline police numbers by five hundred and Associate Minister for
(28:50):
police is Casey Cascilla who joins you know, Hella Casey,
good morning, I'm good. You have to wonder why it's
taken so long to have a second training facility in
New Zealand's biggest.
Speaker 7 (29:01):
Yes, and that's it's been a process that thing worked
on for a while, but it was funding that we've
managed to get through. The five hundred police increase came
through last year. Was identified opportunities, was to plan any
opportunities to increase those police numbers with the target and
that's what they've done.
Speaker 2 (29:20):
How many can you train at this new facility? And
is it residential like the Potaro one?
Speaker 7 (29:25):
There is a small part of residential, so there will
be some that will be able to live in residence.
The big attraction is that there is a barrier for
the target demographic that we're trying to get, you know,
those sort of younger early family members that sort of
have got young families that are trying to get them
down to colleges. A big ask for twenty weeks, so
(29:48):
there will be a mix of that.
Speaker 2 (29:49):
Okay, now, how are you going with the extra five
hundred numbers? How many cops have we got right now?
Speaker 7 (29:55):
So we've got ten one hundred and ninety three I
think as that the end of last year, so.
Speaker 2 (30:01):
We turn ten one hundred and ninety three, Well done.
Speaker 7 (30:06):
That's yes, So that's that's a little bit less than
when we came in, which was ten two hundred eleven.
But we've got three hundred and eleven at college at
the moment.
Speaker 2 (30:14):
Okay, well, back back in August, we had ten thousand,
one hundred and seven. Now you've got ten thousand, one
hundred and ninety three back in back in you know,
back in August of last year. Basically you've gotten down
one hundred and four police, and the Labor Party was
saying that means you need six hundred hit to five hundred.
So where are you at with the five hundred extra
(30:35):
police based on the base number?
Speaker 7 (30:38):
Yes, that's what I'm saying. We've got three hundred eleven
at college at the moment, so they'll be graduating. So
that's that's down there. At night. We've got another wing
going in another week's time, so the wing numbers are
increasing the June. We're aiming for the Auckland wing to
be around June, so we've got we've got more wings
(30:58):
going through so we're still really good. And we've also
got a large number of the commissioners talking about yesday,
a large number of cops that are wanting to rejoin,
which the last figures I saw was about one hundred
and twenty police officers wanting to rejoin. So there's a
lot of factors that we're doing in order to achieve
us and drivers that we've got really good recruitment pipeline.
Speaker 2 (31:18):
Okay, good, and you believe you'll get to that five
hundred target. If so, can you give us a date?
Speaker 7 (31:27):
Well, the date is November twenty eight of November this
year as the date we have to achieve the ten thousand,
seven hundred and eleven, which was our five hundred target.
Speaker 2 (31:37):
Okay, we'll just start. We'll just write all these numbers
down so we're perfectly clear in the FOO in the future.
Ten thousand and eleven, currently on ten thousand, currently on
ten thousand, one hundred and ninety three. Good luck, casey.
We want, we want. I think people want cops, don't you.
It is our seven to six.
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Speaker 2 (32:05):
So just to repeat those numbers so we're totally clear.
Casey Costello told us currently we have ten thousand, one
hundred and ninety three police officers to get to the
action promise of five hundred by this coming November. They
need to get to ten thousand, seven hundred and eleven.
That means they're currently going backwards. There is more than
five hundred positions that need to be found to get
(32:26):
to the target by November ten, seven hundred and eleven,
and we're what we're eight months down. This is not
a criticism, but this is just if you set a target,
that's what happens. People hold you to it. My Costking
joins me, maybe.
Speaker 12 (32:41):
We should talk about it at the time and see
if they made it as opposed to sort of enters.
So it's got a bit of that whole. Let's anticipate
some disaster.
Speaker 2 (32:48):
But they said to Casey, come on, then, come on,
you know we all want the cops. So whatever you
do the new police training facility is good. You know,
whatever you do, it's all good. Just get to the numbers.
That's your Well, they say, the people applying is through
the roof. There's a conversion problem from applying to actually
doing it. But anyway, well, can I just say I
love the fact that they've got a now training facility
(33:09):
in Auckland. It's not residential, so you can actually it
was obvious because you had to go to party, you
had to live there, and then you had to throw
your hat in the air.
Speaker 12 (33:20):
Anyway, we'll talk to the police commissioner about that this morning.
Best story of the weekend for me was a guy
called Ryan Peak, who I'd never heard of, and he
turns out to be a criminal who was in a
bikey gang and spent time in jail. He was a
promising junior golfer and I happened to be watching all
this yesterday and I was watching him and I didn't
know his story until I explained it, and it was
brilliant and so and so we got to have him
on the program.
Speaker 2 (33:40):
And he won it.
Speaker 9 (33:41):
He won them.
Speaker 2 (33:41):
Did you hear the row when he sunk the people
were well he was.
Speaker 12 (33:46):
It was a pressure huts of course, because he blew it.
Because he blew the t shot. He blew the chip,
so he had to otherwise he was in the four
or five ways to run.
Speaker 2 (33:54):
Peak on the show looking forward on the show Just
for Love again and my thanks to producer Kensing and
I'm Andrew Dickens. Back again tomorrow.
Speaker 10 (34:01):
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Speaker 2 (00:12):
Be that's good morning to you and welcome to the
working week. Coming up in the next hour, the Trump
Zelenski meltdown. So is it for America in the war
and in the peace? We've got a former US Defense
Department official in about five minutes time, we're going to
look at the weekend in Sport with Elliot Smith. And
yes we're going to talk about the warriors, and yes
we're going to talk about the cricket, and I'll keep
(00:33):
you in touch with the cricket as well. Gavin Gray
from the UK on Ukraine and the Pope. And we're
talking to Casey Costello on the new police training facility
that's to be built finally in Auckland and changes to
our firearms laws. All this plus correspondents from around New
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up to five. The agenda today, if you need to know,
is Monday, the third of March. European leaders have been
(01:16):
arriving at a major summit in London. They're discussing security
support for Ukraine.
Speaker 3 (01:22):
We're going to mix today because visits the generation comand
the security of Europe.
Speaker 4 (01:29):
Talk to Ukraine is.
Speaker 1 (01:31):
Not much.
Speaker 4 (01:36):
Every night.
Speaker 2 (01:38):
So that was UK President's a kis starmer. He's hosting
the summit. He gave Zelenski a big hug when Zelensky
arrived a day after. You know what he says, This
is kis Tadama says, the UK and France are going
to work with Ukraine to stop the fighting, to have
a peace plan, and they need to discuss that peace
plan with the US as they go forward.
Speaker 3 (01:57):
We have to bridge this. We have to find a
way that we can all work together because in the end,
we've had three years of bloody conflict. Now we need
to get to that lasting piece. And I have to
say I've spoken to President Trump a number of times.
I've met him twice. We had a long session on Thursday.
I'm clear in my mind that he does want lasting peace.
Speaker 2 (02:21):
Yes, so Prision Zelensky is also going to get to
talk with King Charles right after the summer is finished.
Now to Rome, we go and the Vatican Seer's Pope Francis,
who has been in hospital for just over two weeks
fighting double pneumonia, had a peaceful night and has been resting.
He had a bit of a health zip back on Friday,
a breathing crisis on Friday, renewing concerns over his wellbeing.
Speaker 5 (02:42):
His lungs had to be aspirated, that they had to
be cleared of obstruction, and then the Pope had been
given oxygen a face mask essentially to help him to breathe.
But we were told that the Pope was alert throughout,
that he didn't lose consciousness, and even that he was
in good spirits.
Speaker 2 (02:58):
Yesterday evening and finally, authorities have launched a probe into
what they said were the suspicious deaths of Hollywood legend
Gene Hackman and his wife Betsy ata Kava. So things
have changed a bit. Santa Fey Sheriff Aiden Mendoz says
Hackman had likely been dead for over a week when
he was found with his wife and their new Mexico home,
and a statement issued on Thursday. Hackman's family said, of
(03:20):
course that they were devastated by the loss, and that
he was loved and admired by millions around the world
for his brilliant acting career, and that is true. It
is nine after.
Speaker 6 (03:28):
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Speaker 2 (03:39):
So it's always good to read the business pages. That's
where you all hear the real stories about the economy
and not the politicians roast into dreams. So I was
reading this unday our Times yesterday and there was a
spokesperson from the Reserve Bank talking about our investment rules
and he says the bank reckons that are not a
growth obstacle because of course you hear them corporate tax
(04:00):
breaks all the time, and how this would help our growth.
He doesn't believe that corporate tax payers tax breaks would
be as effective in raising productivity as some people say.
So business investment fell significantly in the last half of
last year, and the Reserve Bank governor said that's the
one thing he's most worried about. So business investment is
(04:22):
where you invest your money back in your business. It's
seen as the key to innovation, productivity and growth. But
our business investment level is below the OECD average, as
is our productivity. So if businesses are not investing in
those areas, where is the money going. Well, it's not
going on corporate tax I can tell you the bank,
(04:43):
the Reserve Bank says it's going back to shareholders in
the form of dividends.
Speaker 7 (04:48):
So, as New.
Speaker 2 (04:48):
Zealanders, we love our dividends, that is income while you
still own the shares that created it. It's like a
percentage of your capital gains as you go. Wouldn't you
love to have a dividend on your house a payment
you receive every time your house value increase. Well you
don't get that. That's not possible. Who would pay it?
But you do get dividends. And businesses like to give
dividends to their shareholders to keep the shareholders on their register.
(05:12):
But it's still giving money back to the shareholders and
all the while it's holding businesses back from reinvesting in
what they do.
Speaker 4 (05:22):
Now.
Speaker 2 (05:22):
The Reserve Bank has said that attitude has to fundamentally
change to long term productivity. What do you think? Do
you agree? And that is the challenges for businesses and shareholders.
Are you prepared to take the long hold or do
you want the cash now? And if you want the
cash now, don't expect productivity to magically grow. Have we
(05:46):
seen the myth figures? With all the myth we're consuming,
you think our productivity would be up. We're spedding away
like Billio. New Zealand meth use more than doubled in
the second half of twenty twenty four. It's the highest
level yet recorded. According to the analysis of our wastewater,
nearly thirty kilos worth of meth consumed in October. Now
why Mexican Asian cartels are flooding the market with the
(06:09):
help of our friends, the motorcycle gangs, the ones we
hampered with the gang patch man just took the patches
off and worked even harder. They're selling drugs like crazy.
And I don't need to tell you that this is
a particularly New Zealand scourge. I mean New Zealanders love
this stuff. I don't know why. What is there to
love about it? It corrodes your health, it distorts your mind,
It amplifies any violent streak you have. We love it,
(06:34):
and this is a battle we are losing. So there's
going to be more on this after seven on the
Mike Hosking Breakfast Show. But I just wanted to point
out the figures because this is our horror show. Now.
Speaking of horror shows, everybody on Friday sat down and
watched ten minutes of that interview. Some of us went
and watched the whole fifty minutes of the press conference.
If that, if you could call it that, between Trump
(06:56):
and Jadie Vance at of course, President Zelenski, what a road.
We're going to talk about this in a few moments
time with a former US Defense Department official, And my
question is is America out now of both the war
and the peace.
Speaker 6 (07:09):
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Speaker 2 (07:20):
You talk said be we all got to see it,
the huge spectacle of the weekend between US President Donald Trump,
Vice President Jedy Vance, and Ukraine's President Volodimyr Zolensky. I'll
take you back there.
Speaker 8 (07:32):
You're gambling with World War three. You're gambling with World
War three, and what you're doing is very disrespectful to
the country. This country's thank you, far more than a
lot of people said they should have.
Speaker 9 (07:47):
Have you said thank you once.
Speaker 7 (07:50):
In this entire media.
Speaker 10 (07:51):
You said, who.
Speaker 2 (07:53):
Yeah, Okay, it was fire, he wasn't it. And President
Trump told Zelenski to make a deal with Russia or
the US will be out. European leaders are now meeting
in London for a summit to discuss an outcome for
all of this. They're prepared to give security guarantees. Former
US Defense Department official Jeffrey Price joins me now from America. Hello, Jeffrey, A.
Speaker 4 (08:12):
Good morning, getting warded everybody who's up so early in
New Zealand.
Speaker 2 (08:15):
How's America reacting to what happened? You know? They are
they happy with their president or not? Or is it
split the next Like the rest of the world.
Speaker 4 (08:23):
There is a bit of a split. Many Republicans are
at least publicly defending what the President and Vice President
Vance did, but a great many Americans are frankly embarrassed.
It was a disaster, no matter how you look at it.
And this is the kind of diplomacy that should not
(08:44):
be taking place on television exactly. And so I don't
think anybody comes out ahead except for the Russians.
Speaker 2 (08:49):
Well, let's talk about what actually happened to that, because
that's the other thing the analysis of it gives has
got all weird too. So at the basic point of it,
President Donald Trump will not agree to a ceasfire plan
if it includes a security guarantee, and Zelenski demands a
security guarantee. So if Trump won't include a security guarantee,
does that mean America is out now of both the
(09:12):
war and the peace.
Speaker 4 (09:15):
I don't think.
Speaker 7 (09:16):
So.
Speaker 4 (09:16):
This is so important for the security of Europe, for
the security of the world, that we have to come
to some resolution here. And the problem is that we're
We've got the Americans, we've got the Europeans, we've got
the Ukrainians and the Russian So it's a complicated negotiation.
The last time we had something that's similar to me
(09:37):
was the war in Bosnia in the nineties, when you
had different players as well. So Zelensky is going to
want to see that any ceasefire does not just allow
repeated aggression. There needs to be some deterrence of future
Russian aggression in any ceasefire that is likely going to
involve Europeans. And the question that's being discussed during the
(10:01):
Americans and Europeans and the Ukrainians. Is is what role
the United States might have, say backstopping what will be
at the front a European presence that's also being worked out.
Speaker 2 (10:16):
Right, So security guarantees guaranteed by Europe. But if it
all got a bit pear shaped and Putin still took
them on, that America might come back in.
Speaker 4 (10:27):
So America plays a crucial role even when we're not
at the front of a conflict in logistics and command
and control and intelligence surveillance. So anytime you have a
serious conventional force right now, NATO was organized to have
America at the core. When we had the war in Bosnia,
it started out with a European force under UN command
(10:50):
that did not work. It was replaced by a NATO
lead force with a one third American component that did work.
So I think that's what people might be thinking thinking
about President Trump is me career, he doesn't want the
United States to be in a front role. But to me,
any force that's going to be credible and effective is
(11:10):
either going to have to be a NATO force or
something like a NATO force, even if it's a europe
well tiller in NATO.
Speaker 2 (11:19):
The Europeans are starting to talk about a European force
to run in conjunction with a NATO, and NATO seems
to be completely deep powered. It's a very interesting time.
And Jeffrey Price, I thank you so much for your thoughts.
And I had my own thoughts before five thirty. It
is a five twenty sport. There's a sport, and what
a weekend of sport there was. And I watched the
Warriors and I then went to the Gulf because I
(11:41):
was so angry. Elliot Smith's Nicks News.
Speaker 1 (11:45):
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Speaker 2 (11:55):
It's now twenty two minutes after five. I thought I'd
be updating the cricket all the way through this hour,
but I won't because they've just lost and Indian India
has won by forty four runs. New Zealand got to
two hundred and five. And Elliot Smith joins.
Speaker 10 (12:06):
Me right now morning, Andrew.
Speaker 2 (12:07):
Not the end of the world though, because Semy's coming
on Wednesday. But not a good practice run.
Speaker 10 (12:13):
No, and it was actually looking quite good but came Williamson,
who made eighty one, couldn't find anyone to stick with him.
They had partnerships of thirty forty ish for a couple
of players, but the spinners, the Indian spinners took hold
in the Dubai wicket and what was quite promising one
hundred and thirty three for three and thirty third over
chasing two fifty but is a none could stick with.
Came Williamson and bowled out for two hundred and five.
(12:34):
Been so on Wednesday night.
Speaker 2 (12:36):
Okay, so South Africa is next. Okay, Ration got six,
Rasia Ravender got six, Darrell got seventeen, Tom Latham fourteen,
then Phillips twelve. But all those players have stood up
before in the tournaments that we've played over the last
couple of weeks, so they've been and now and now
finally Cain has got a biggish score. So you've got
to say we're all good for a semi.
Speaker 10 (12:58):
Let's hope it all comes together in a see final
against South Africa. You know we've got the wood on
them traditionally and some of those big games. So you
think back to twenty fifteen World Cup semi final there
at Eden Park, so there's president there and back to Lahaus.
They went to Dubai for this one, back to lahaw
for Wednesday, Art semi final.
Speaker 2 (13:14):
The Warriors were beaten too. Everything.
Speaker 10 (13:17):
Yes, that was pretty poor, wasn't it.
Speaker 2 (13:19):
What did you say to me before you said it
was like they were still in pre season.
Speaker 10 (13:22):
Yes, there was no attacking structure, no defensive structure. I
was not sure what they've been doing for, you know,
months on end. Very disappointing. And I don't know whether
it was the Vegas bright lights or whatever, but I
think there was more to it.
Speaker 2 (13:35):
The commentoes were going on about how thin the field
is and so why weren't they putting it out wide
because we were all crammed up in the middle, So
I thought that.
Speaker 10 (13:42):
Didn't seem to be any ability to build pressure on
the Raiders. The tries that the Warriors got were opportunistic
towards the end of each half. Very disappointing. And the Raiders,
who were not expected to be out there this season,
and indeed the Warriors went into that game as favorites,
well they absoutely belted the war So a lot of
soul searching to do, and now this allegation this morning
(14:05):
that Richard Agar, one of the Warriors assistants, has basically
throttled a British journalist in the press box. So the
nrols investigating that, the Warriors looking into it as well.
So couldn't have gone much worse, to be honest, yesterday, Andrew.
Speaker 2 (14:16):
But that's why I then went over to the golf. Yes,
this was very pretty. There wasn't that uplifting it was
and Ricky Punting got an eagle on the seventh, which
shows you when you play a program, you actually can
play some pretty good golf.
Speaker 10 (14:26):
He's pretty handy. Ricky Ponting and the winner of that
tournament as well, a former bikey who's turned his life
around and greatly great tats, great hats, impolitely and well
Lydia Coe won the women's World Championship in Singapore, so
she's had a great weekend and.
Speaker 2 (14:40):
Of course, thank you so much. Eerlie Smith on Sport
five to twenty.
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Talks at Me news Talks be it is five twenty
seven now. Who didn't see the Trump Zelenski mountdown coming?
I did. I knew this was going to be a
disaster right from the start. Didn't expect so much drama.
The whole thing for a week or so more has
been a show for the crowds and not a real
play for peace. Because it was obvious before the summit.
President Zelenski made it very clear that he wants US
(15:10):
cease fire but with security guarantees. And President Trump made
it very clear that he wants to seize fire, but
he wouldn't give security guarantees. That's the heart of the matter,
that is the heart of it. Reportedly, America told Zelenski
not to mention the security guarantees at the press conference.
But as I say, that is the heart of Zelensky's possession.
(15:31):
He does not trust Putin because they've had US cease
fire with Putin before that Putin promptly broke. Why would
you trust Vladimir I. Remember, this isn't a conflict that's
three years old. This has been going on since twenty
fourteen in various guyses. So Trump made it very clear
he wants out and he wants a playoff of minerals.
For everything that US has put in so far, and
(15:52):
remember he has a mandate for that, he campaigned on it.
He's been public about it the whole way. He got
the vote. So when they meet and the press started recording,
Trump Advance spoke as though their plan was a fader complete,
but it wasn't. Ukraine always said no security guarantee, no deal.
So when Zelensky started reminding him or both of them
(16:13):
of what happened in the past, Trump Advance went two
on one, didn't they and they bullied him. They gave
him a lesson. It was school yard stuff, beating up
an immigrant kid with English as the second language, and
the Americans loved it. And that's who Trump and Vance
were actually playing to the American public, the American public
that voted for Trump, that are sick of trillions of
their dollars going to a place they barely know. The
(16:35):
American public is now saying Zelensky wants to continue with
the war, but that's not so. He wants a peace.
He wants a cease fire, but with a security guarantee.
He doesn't want a piece that lasts for just a week.
So Putin must be loving this. America is now seemed
to be selfish and irrelevant and looking after itself, while
(16:55):
Europe's under investment in defense is clearing Europe is prepared
to ensure the peace, but America is not. And by
the way, can I please remind everyone who goes on
about Zelensky being not in a suit that back in
the day when Winston Churchill went to Washington to convince
America to enter World War Two, he came dressed in
a military boiler suit, and that was to signify he
(17:17):
was in an actual war, which the Americans weren't. Zelensky
is in an actual war. Trump and Vans are not.
Andrew Dickens I watched Q and A for the first
time this year. Wasn't bad? Guy in Esperner was hosting it.
Hell and clacss of interesting things. We'll talk about that.
Gavin Gray from the UK, Howard's The Pope and before six,
(17:40):
Casey Castello on the New Police Trading School.
Speaker 1 (17:46):
Andrew Dickens on a Filly edition with one roof. To
make your property search simple, youth, talg Zibby.
Speaker 2 (18:08):
Welcome to your week. Third of BArch, first week of
marsh or Reddy. Can you believe it still hot for
much of New Zealand? Judy writes to me, Andrew, funny
how Elon must doesn't wear a suit? And that seems
to be okay. He wears a baseball cap as well.
What's happening there? And I know, but you know, Zelensky
can't wear military clothing even though he's actually in a war.
(18:28):
Someone else writes, Andrew, you can't be that stupid. So
this is their their thought. That their thought is. There
is two parts. The first is the minerals deal in
a ceasefire, and the second part is the long term
deal with the Russians with security guarantees for Ukraine. The
economic arrangement is also a security guarantee. Now, well, I said,
all that's that's true in a way, but that is
(18:49):
the Trump deal. That is not what Ukraine wants. That's
not what Zelenski wants. He wants first a cease fire
with security guarantees because he honestly believes that Putin will
we back in before you know it? And how can
he possibly get any economic arrangement, you know, if there
isn't already a security guarantee in place with with you know,
(19:12):
with America and Europe to protect them from Putin, who
could just go in just like that. He's done it before.
So yeah, you're write Texter, that is the way the
deal would look from the Trump point of view, but
that's not the way that Ukrainians want it to look like.
Therefore there is a problem and they start shouting at
each other. Excellent. Hey, I watched Q and A for
(19:32):
the first time this year. By the way, Guy and
Espert are hosting it at the moment. Yesterday's program was
with Helen Clark. Helen Clark just turned seventy five last week.
She was not fond of five Eyes anymore. She says
it's got mission creep. She said, it used to be
secret and purely about intelligence. Now it's turning into some
intergovernmental policy agency. Lately, they've released statements on migration. You're
(19:54):
supposed to not even know the thing exists. The fact
that we know it exists is a failure of what
it was set up to do. That was Helen Clark's
point of view. It was quite interesting. But the thing
about Helen Clark is that it was nice to hear
an interview with someone who knows her own mind and
speaks her position clearly. Even if you don't agree with it,
you know, that's all you want. Something that the new
(20:16):
bunch of politicians could certainly learn. Twenty one to six
right around the country we go. Callen Proctor joins us
from Tuneedan. Hello, Callum, Yes, morning Andrew. So we've got
a plant that's in the water of a major tourist destination.
So what is this part? Whereabouts is this?
Speaker 11 (20:31):
It's called Lagris siphon. Let's speak problem this one. It's
an invasive weed clogging up the water in Lake Wanica
and so Land Information New Zealand's leading the charge on
trying to eradicate this Lagri siphon two months or a
two month long process. We'll see four rugby fields worth
of Hessian mats laid on the lake's floor, laid by
(20:53):
divers to smother this weed. This will help try and
build on progress made over the last two decades. It
has to be done for the lake to survive and
can continue to be a major tourist attraction. Biosecurity manager
Tracy Burton says it's essential this work because the plant
can take over and choke the waterway completely if left untouched.
Speaker 2 (21:12):
How's your weather?
Speaker 11 (21:14):
Our periods a rain right around Otago Dunedin gets as well.
Twenty one the high today.
Speaker 2 (21:18):
I thank you Claire sherew it joins us fro christ
Church tally clear.
Speaker 12 (21:21):
Good morning.
Speaker 2 (21:21):
So Christchurch Girls High needs earthquake rebuild. When's that going
to start?
Speaker 13 (21:26):
I know, Andrew, Look, after fourteen years, we're told this
final piece of the puzzle for Girls High will be
this year. So it was decided the school needed an
entirely new main block in twenty twenty after they tried
for five years to strengthen the existing one. Consultants that
advised it would just be better to rebuild. The Ministry's
Regional Infrastructure Manager, Simon Crookshank, says that redevelopment is part
(21:49):
of the christ Church School rebuild program, which was meant
to finish by twenty twenty. He says the projects now
in design and we'll move to construction by the end
of this year. There's concerned though it won't even be
fit for purpose. Principal Helen Armstrong says the builds for
eleven hundred students, despite them having almost thirteen hundred. She
says the school's been extremely patient. That is also very frustrated,
(22:12):
as it deserves a good quality building that meets the
needs of their students.
Speaker 2 (22:15):
Yes, indeed, Now, how's your weather cloud increasing?
Speaker 13 (22:18):
With passable rain a bit later Southerly's the high should
be twenty five.
Speaker 2 (22:23):
Maxtel joins us from Wellington Halla Mac good morning. We
have a missing man and people are hunting for them.
So there's a new development. Yeah.
Speaker 9 (22:30):
The police have been looking for Travis Langford for a
month and a half now. He went missing traveling from
Wellington to Waikattle. Twenty four year old's car was later
found burned out at a farm in a Nadoma that's
quite a rural area east of Tekuwiti. Emergency services private
ones too have turned up nothing. There's a sense that
(22:52):
authorities have a fair idea of what he's up to,
but just can't put that final piece together. There have
been credible sightings of him in the Wye Pappa and
among a keynot areas. Another incredible sighting that he appeared
to be hitchhiking on the side of the road. Police
appealing for more information from the public, specifically for a
man traveling around south white cattle in long pants, no shoes,
(23:14):
wearing a backpack. Police urging people to check their outbuildings, sheds, barns,
abandoned buildings on their properties for this man. Travis, did you.
Speaker 2 (23:25):
Just say no pants, no long pants, shoes no shoe,
which is the better combination? I would have thought they
would have been very easy to find some shoes. Okay,
so how's Wellington's were.
Speaker 9 (23:38):
There mostly find today's strong Northeries twenty three the High Central.
Speaker 2 (23:42):
Neither rit around? Who joins us from aalkanhellen? Neither no pants?
Speaker 12 (23:45):
Good morning.
Speaker 2 (23:46):
I was just standard by this story that is the
university using AI tutors to teach people, Yes, to teach people.
Speaker 4 (23:55):
It's right.
Speaker 14 (23:55):
It came out over the weekend. And now what's happened
is that Auckland Unis defended its use of AI tutors.
And this isn't a digital marketing course. So the students,
they've expressed outrage on Reddit over compulsory tutorials and marketing
three Go four being led by an AI tutor. That's right, Andrew.
So they questioned is the university allowed to take this approach?
(24:16):
A business school spokesperson says the tutors they don't replace
in person teaching, they're used as supplementary learning tools. They
also say that this technology has undergone some testing, provides
factual content to support student learning.
Speaker 2 (24:31):
Hope you hope?
Speaker 4 (24:32):
Yeah.
Speaker 14 (24:33):
So the course is a two hour tutorial in person
every week as well. So let's see what happens on
this one.
Speaker 2 (24:39):
All right, how's Aukan's weather okay?
Speaker 14 (24:40):
Partnery cloudy today, still warm Auckland's high twenty five.
Speaker 2 (24:43):
Pauline writes to me Andrew, the free world needs America's
protection just as Churchill knew it did for World War Two.
Couldn't agree more, and it needs it now more than ever.
Couldn't agree more, And Pauline writes, China is watching with
great interest. Yes, and God bless America. Double excavation. Matt
China's Defense ministry spokesperson on Thursday warn Taiwan that we
(25:04):
will come and get you sooner or later, so they
see that there's a gap. It was a press conference
on Thursday grabbed attention inside China because apparently that's a
line from a Record Baking children's movie called Neja two,
and then the film the line was given by a groundhog.
But yes, she's all go all around the world. More
on this with Gavin Gray from the UK and also
(25:26):
before six Casey Costello. There's a new police training facility
it's in Auckland first time ever. Plus new firearms laws
it's all.
Speaker 1 (25:34):
Coming international correspondence with ends and eye insurance, peace of
mind for New Zealand Business.
Speaker 2 (25:41):
Thirteen to six. Gavin Graham the UK Hellokevin, and you've
got Zelenski. What's happening.
Speaker 15 (25:48):
Yeah, big meeting there in London, Lancaster House, right in
the heart of London. Plenty of people outside Downing Street
chairing when the President of Ukraine, Miss Zelenski arrived and
the Prime Minister. So that really does reflect the strength
of feeling for the country. Now with you to get
a press conference in about ten fifteen minutes, Andrew. But
(26:10):
you know, this is all about really trying to work
out how US europe relationships are going to develop, and
also of course what can the Ukrainians expect now from Europe.
Will Europe step up and do the heavy lifting. But
even if they do that heavy lifting, by which I
may even mean boots on the ground, more money, more arms,
(26:32):
more logistics, they are demanding or they need they stay
American air cover. And that is something at the moment
that Donald Trump says he's not going to supply, but
we do know he flip blops.
Speaker 4 (26:43):
Yeah, I know.
Speaker 2 (26:44):
But at the same time, this conversation is not about
continuing the war. It's about a piece. It's about having
a piece with a security guarantee, which everyone's getting a
bit confused. They think that Zelenski now wants to carry
on with the war, but he wants to have a
security guarantee, boots on the ground to make sure that
Putin doesn't come back once they come up with some deal.
Speaker 15 (27:02):
Yeah, there was speculation, not confirmed, speculation that Donald Trump
thinks that if the American companies start digging for the
minerals in the east and north of Ukraine, by the
very fact they're American Putin, wouldn't you try and evade again.
But that's what the Europeans say is not right, and
that's why they want this proper action plan in place
(27:24):
for the peace.
Speaker 2 (27:25):
Now. Pope Francis had a bit of a turn on Friday,
but he's come right.
Speaker 15 (27:30):
Yes, I mean, I wouldn't say completely right. But he was,
of course, for the third week in a row, absent
and unable to deliver his traditional Angelus prayer in person.
Each week, visitors go to the Vatican, usually gathering on
Sent Peter Square to see the Pope. Third weekend, he's
not been there. He's spent most of that time in hospital.
He's still there and it was said that he had
(27:52):
written the text from his hospital room in the past
few days and that was read out for him, and
he told flicks around the world that he felt their
affection and closeness and said my quote, I feel as
if I'm carried and supported by God's people. He'd had
a peaceful night last night, but this was following, as
you seller, a second breathing crisis as it was called
(28:14):
at the start of the weekend. He received extra oxygen
the ball, but we're being told he was not inturbated,
in other words, did not have one of those breathing
tubes down his throat. So positive news in that sense,
but still a long way from being out of the woods.
Speaker 2 (28:29):
Kevin, I thank you so much. It is now a
live in to six ridiculous all right. Orkan's getting a
police training facility. Currently one to be cops have to
spend twenty weeks of police courage in Poiliua, but the
government yesterday announced a new facility to make it more accessible.
It's also supposed to help with the target of increasing
frontline police numbers by five hundred and Associate Minister for
(28:50):
police is Casey Cascilla who joins you know, Hella Casey,
good morning, I'm good. You have to wonder why it's
taken so long to have a second training facility in
New Zealand's biggest.
Speaker 7 (29:01):
Yes, and that's it's been a process that thing worked
on for a while, but it was funding that we've
managed to get through. The five hundred police increase came
through last year. Was identified opportunities, was to plan any
opportunities to increase those police numbers with the target and
that's what they've done.
Speaker 2 (29:20):
How many can you train at this new facility? And
is it residential like the Potaro one?
Speaker 7 (29:25):
There is a small part of residential, so there will
be some that will be able to live in residence.
The big attraction is that there is a barrier for
the target demographic that we're trying to get, you know,
those sort of younger early family members that sort of
have got young families that are trying to get them
down to colleges. A big ask for twenty weeks, so
(29:48):
there will be a mix of that.
Speaker 2 (29:49):
Okay, now, how are you going with the extra five
hundred numbers? How many cops have we got right now?
Speaker 7 (29:55):
So we've got ten one hundred and ninety three I
think as that the end of last year, so.
Speaker 2 (30:01):
We turn ten one hundred and ninety three, Well done.
Speaker 7 (30:06):
That's yes, So that's that's a little bit less than
when we came in, which was ten two hundred eleven.
But we've got three hundred and eleven at college at
the moment.
Speaker 2 (30:14):
Okay, well, back back in August, we had ten thousand,
one hundred and seven. Now you've got ten thousand, one
hundred and ninety three back in back in you know,
back in August of last year. Basically you've gotten down
one hundred and four police, and the Labor Party was
saying that means you need six hundred hit to five hundred.
So where are you at with the five hundred extra
(30:35):
police based on the base number?
Speaker 7 (30:38):
Yes, that's what I'm saying. We've got three hundred eleven
at college at the moment, so they'll be graduating. So
that's that's down there. At night. We've got another wing
going in another week's time, so the wing numbers are
increasing the June. We're aiming for the Auckland wing to
be around June, so we've got we've got more wings
(30:58):
going through so we're still really good. And we've also
got a large number of the commissioners talking about yesday,
a large number of cops that are wanting to rejoin,
which the last figures I saw was about one hundred
and twenty police officers wanting to rejoin. So there's a
lot of factors that we're doing in order to achieve
us and drivers that we've got really good recruitment pipeline.
Speaker 2 (31:18):
Okay, good, and you believe you'll get to that five
hundred target. If so, can you give us a date?
Speaker 7 (31:27):
Well, the date is November twenty eight of November this
year as the date we have to achieve the ten thousand,
seven hundred and eleven, which was our five hundred target.
Speaker 2 (31:37):
Okay, we'll just start. We'll just write all these numbers
down so we're perfectly clear in the FOO in the future.
Ten thousand and eleven, currently on ten thousand, currently on
ten thousand, one hundred and ninety three. Good luck, casey.
We want, we want. I think people want cops, don't you.
It is our seven to six.
Speaker 1 (31:55):
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Analysis Early edition with Andrew Dickens and one roof Make
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Speaker 2 (32:05):
So just to repeat those numbers so we're totally clear.
Casey Costello told us currently we have ten thousand, one
hundred and ninety three police officers to get to the
action promise of five hundred by this coming November. They
need to get to ten thousand, seven hundred and eleven.
That means they're currently going backwards. There is more than
five hundred positions that need to be found to get
(32:26):
to the target by November ten, seven hundred and eleven,
and we're what we're eight months down. This is not
a criticism, but this is just if you set a target,
that's what happens. People hold you to it. My Costking
joins me, maybe.
Speaker 12 (32:41):
We should talk about it at the time and see
if they made it as opposed to sort of enters.
So it's got a bit of that whole. Let's anticipate
some disaster.
Speaker 2 (32:48):
But they said to Casey, come on, then, come on,
you know we all want the cops. So whatever you
do the new police training facility is good. You know,
whatever you do, it's all good. Just get to the numbers.
That's your Well, they say, the people applying is through
the roof. There's a conversion problem from applying to actually
doing it. But anyway, well, can I just say I
love the fact that they've got a now training facility
(33:09):
in Auckland. It's not residential, so you can actually it
was obvious because you had to go to party, you
had to live there, and then you had to throw
your hat in the air.
Speaker 12 (33:20):
Anyway, we'll talk to the police commissioner about that this morning.
Best story of the weekend for me was a guy
called Ryan Peak, who I'd never heard of, and he
turns out to be a criminal who was in a
bikey gang and spent time in jail. He was a
promising junior golfer and I happened to be watching all
this yesterday and I was watching him and I didn't
know his story until I explained it, and it was
brilliant and so and so we got to have him
on the program.
Speaker 2 (33:40):
And he won it.
Speaker 9 (33:41):
He won them.
Speaker 2 (33:41):
Did you hear the row when he sunk the people
were well he was.
Speaker 12 (33:46):
It was a pressure huts of course, because he blew it.
Because he blew the t shot. He blew the chip,
so he had to otherwise he was in the four
or five ways to run.
Speaker 2 (33:54):
Peak on the show looking forward on the show Just
for Love again and my thanks to producer Kensing and
I'm Andrew Dickens. Back again tomorrow.
Speaker 10 (34:01):
I have a great Monday.
Speaker 1 (34:11):
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