March 10, 2025 • 34 mins
On the Early Edition with Full Show Podcast Tuesday 11th of March 2025, The Prime Minister's announced he's taking a large delegation to India, India NZ Business Council Chair Bharat Chawla tells Andrew Dickens what to expect.
Canada's new Prime Minister has vowed to win the trade war with the United States, Washington Bureau Chief for the Guardian David Smith shares what the reaction has been.
Prime Minister Christopher Luxon is slipping in the latest polls on preferred Prime Minister, Marketing expert Michael Lee tells Andrew how he can improve.
Australia Correspondent Donna Demaio shares the latest on the clean-up following tropical cyclone Alfred.
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
The issues, the interviews and the inside Andrew Dickens on
early edition with one roof make your property search simple
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Speaker 2 (00:13):
Whatding to you?
Speaker 3 (00:13):
Thank you for choosing our program. Welcome on in in
the next sixty minutes. It's a Tuesday, and we have
a new poll and the poll shows that Chris Hopkins
is more popular than Christopher Luxon, but only just so
what could the Prime Minister do to bolster his popularity?
Speaker 4 (00:27):
Will have that story for.
Speaker 3 (00:27):
You in five minutes. Canada has a new prime minister,
so who is Mark Carney and will his hardline attitude
to Donald Trump work? Will have that story for you
in ten minutes time. And the Prime Minister is heading
to India, so what is he going to find there?
We'll look at all the angles. After five point thirty
we're going to have correspondence from right around New Zealand
and all around the world and news as it breaks
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and you can have your say by using the text
and the number is ninety two ninety two. A small
charge does apply. You can email me Dickens at News
talk to at b dot co dot Nz. It's seven
after five.
Speaker 1 (01:01):
The agenda, it's Tuesday, the.
Speaker 3 (01:04):
Eleventh of March, at least thirty six people have been
brought ashore and one person has been taken to hospital
after a US flagged oil tanker collided with a cargo
vessel in the North Sea. The US flagged Stinner Immeculate,
which is one of the ten vessels the US military
used to carry fuel, appears to have been hit by
a Portuguese flag container ship. So long and now jet
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fuel has been spilling into the water.
Speaker 5 (01:29):
It seems that we know exactly what happened here from
tracking data. I see what happened, not why it happened.
We know that the oil tanker was at anchor, it
was effectively stopped in the North Sea, and the salong
was coming from the ports of Grainsmouth in Scotland going
across to Rotterdam, and it hit the oil tanker pretty
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much head on.
Speaker 3 (01:52):
Wow, so long, so long now. Ukrainian President Zelenski has
arrived in Saudi Arabia for a state visit. He won't
be attending talk with US officials on Tuesday local time,
but Kiev is expected to push for a truce with
Russia in the sea and the sky.
Speaker 6 (02:08):
Well, I'm confident that the meeting will be productive. We
in Ukraine are committed to this very.
Speaker 1 (02:13):
Much, so hosorables.
Speaker 6 (02:15):
We will do our best to ensure that Ukrainian interests
are taken into account, taken into account in the right way.
Speaker 3 (02:21):
And it remains unclear what Washington is prepared to offer
an exchange for access to Ukraine's mineral wealth. A State
of Department official says the US believes Kiev is ready
to move forward. Meanwhile, a Kremlin spokesperson says Russia is
at an initial stage of restoring bilateral relations with the US,
adding that the conversations between Trump and Putin have been constructive.
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And finally, Canada's next president, Mark Karney, has vowed to
win the trade war against US President Donald Trump after
a landslide victory to replace Justin to Trudeau. Karney, who
will be sworn in as PM in the coming days,
has also pledged retaliatory tariffs on US goods until Americans
show some respects.
Speaker 7 (03:02):
So Donald Trump thinks thinks he can weaken US with
his plan to divide and conquer, pre Polyev's plan will
leave us divided and ready to be conquered. Because a
person who worships at the altar of Donald Trump, will
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kneel before him, not stand up to Dad.
Speaker 3 (03:26):
That is Marc Canny never been elected. We'll talk more
about this in mister Pember's time and find out more
about him. Oh meanwhile, dug Ford don't know if you know
about him. He's a hard man against Trump as well.
He is the Premier of Ontario. He's also unveiling his
plans to impose retiliatory electricity tariffs on the United States.
Speaker 1 (03:44):
The first Word on the News of the Day Early
edition with Andrew Dickens and one roof Make Your Property
Search Simple, News Talk Zippy.
Speaker 3 (03:54):
It's ten after five. Well, congratulations New Zealand. We're getting
a new road. Registrations of interest will open this week
for a four lane extension of State Highway One between
Walkworth and the little town of Tehanna as a continuation
of the road that was once described as the Holiday Highway.
But really we know it's the key to unlocking the
potential of Northland and busy beavers at NZATA have been
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coming up with a plan for a while now. It's
got a spiffy animated video and all, and now the
government is looking for a partner to build and run
the Northland Expressway and so the project will take pride
in place in this business investment conference. The government has
spent a million bucks on organizing. Now, the surprising thing
for me is that this is news. In the first place.
Our roading program ebbs and flows with the passing of
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each successive government, and that is a weakness. And every
new government seizes on the plans that are already in
place to show that something is happening during their reign.
And it shouldn't be this way. Our schedule of infrastructure
build should be known decades into the future to give
certainty to construction firms and financiers in Germany. In Germany,
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they lay two hundred kilometers of new railtrack every single
year because they have a long term plan and the
regularity of that work means that the specialized labor that
builds them has a predictable workflow, means they don't just
pack up and leave every time a project is finished with,
which is what happens here. I have a mate who's
(05:19):
a tunneling engineer and his lifestyle is bizarre because he
doesn't know where the next tunnel is. He keeps on
moving to other countries where there's work. He doesn't like that,
he doesn't enjoy that, he'd rather do without the upheaval.
But he never knows what's happening in the future of
this country. Now, this is something we've talked about, and
this is something that they say the Infrastructure Commission is
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supposed to be working on to fix. So the thing is,
don't tell me about next year's road, tell me about
the one we're going to get in twenty years. Andrew Dickens,
twelve after five. A little other debate I heard on
the radio yesterday was about body armor cameras and a
call from David Lttelly that they should be compulsory. Let's
be honest. Body or cameras are inevitable with the level
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of violence in society and the unenviable job the police have.
The cold hard evidence of what goes down in the
situation is vital. You need a camera. It's widespread and
the rest of the world, so it's coming. Arguments against it,
and I heard this and talk back with Matt and
Tyler yesterday. Arguments against it include the claim that storing
the images are expensive, but anyone who has a home
(06:27):
camera knows there's a ton of storage in every twenty
dollars mini SD card. Now the whole thing won't be cheap,
but nor will it be expensive. But here's the question
for you. Is now the time to spend money on
tech rather than using the police budget on feet on
the beat. I don't think so, but provision for it
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must be in the budgets in the future. It is
five point thirteen. So the polls. I'll have some words
about the polls a bit later on. I think it's
the wrong time for polls when we're eighteen months away
from an election, but there and the talk is about
how the Prime Minister is not cutting it or not
getting through, not getting his message across, not being liked.
And we'll talk about this in a few moments time
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with a fellow who is a professor of marketing at
the University of Auckland. This is News Talks, heb It
is coming up fourteen after five.
Speaker 1 (07:17):
On your radio and online on iHeartRadio early edition with
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Youth Talk.
Speaker 3 (07:26):
Said be werena Taxpayer's Union Courier poll yesterday and it
showed that the National Party have fallen behind Labor in
popularity it's only half a percent though, But the interesting
thing in a way was that Chris Hipkins is above
Christopher Luxen for preferred Prime Minister. So I'm joined now
by Auckland University Associate Professor of Marketing, Michael Lee. Michael,
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good morning to you.
Speaker 1 (07:48):
Good morning, Mike.
Speaker 3 (07:50):
What's your reading of the PM's communication style, because people
are saying that he's not cutting through.
Speaker 8 (07:56):
I think I've heard some of the interviews where you've
had a little game of cat and mouse with him,
trying to get him to commit to something. And you know,
for the most part, he's pretty good when he knows
what he wants to say. But I think what he
gets a bit stick He is obviously when he's been
pressed for something that he's clearly keen not to give
a definitive answer for, and then he comes across a
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little bit evasive sometimes, and I think that's probably what's
happening people. I think, why don't you just answer the question, well.
Speaker 3 (08:25):
Is he too married to bullet points from his prep?
Speaker 1 (08:28):
Sorry?
Speaker 9 (08:29):
What was that?
Speaker 3 (08:30):
Is he too married to the bullet points that he's prepared?
Speaker 8 (08:34):
Yeah, that could be a stick to what you want
to say and don't get pressed into engaging in any
conversation that you're not comfortable answering. I think that does
come across.
Speaker 3 (08:44):
But you see, the thing is, if you're going to
say something, you have to say it like you believe it,
and therefore you should be able to say it immediately.
Speaker 8 (08:51):
Yeah, exactly. And so what we see is the points
that he's comfortable talking to, he can be quite decisive
and comes across quite strong. But then when you catch
him on something that he's not clear about or does
not want to engage in the conversation, then he becomes
very evasive.
Speaker 9 (09:08):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (09:08):
Well, that's the difficulty about being the Prime minister. You
have to be the spokesperson on everything and you have
to be across everything. So I would say that there
are people in the back benches of the National Party
who would like to see him polling a bit higher.
What could he do to improve.
Speaker 8 (09:22):
Well, a couple of the things that you've caught him on,
like the whether or not there is a deal for
the theory and whether or not he would sack that chat.
He could have answered with something like you know, if
it depends or maybe or I've had to look into that,
or there are circumstances that I'm not on top of
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right now that I would have to get back to you.
So there are ways of answering that shows that, look,
he would like to answer, but he doesn't want to
answer in a way that you know, would get him
in trouble or the other person in trouble later on.
So I think there's a reason why he can answer.
The issue is that he's just giving you the same
response over and over again, and that's getting frustrating for
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both of you, and obviously the listeners can probably share
their evasiveness going.
Speaker 3 (10:13):
On absolutely, Thank you so much, Mike Lee, who I
think thinks I might be called Mike. It is five
eighteen NEWSTALKSB. Who is Mark Canney. He's come out like
a horse out of the gate. He's the new Prime
Minister of Canada. We'll talk about Matt Canney in the Modent.
Speaker 1 (10:30):
News and Views you Trust to start your day. It's
early edition with Andrew Dickens and one roof Make your
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Speaker 3 (10:39):
By twenty one, Canada has a new prime minister. His
name is Mac Canney and the Liberals love him. He
got eighty five percent of the vote and In his
acceptance speech, he promised to win the trade war.
Speaker 7 (10:52):
My government will keep our tariffs on until the Americans
show us respect. But Canadians are always ready when someone
else drops the gloves. So any Americans, they should make
no mistake in trade. As in hockey, Canada will win.
Speaker 3 (11:10):
I tink talk Washington. Bureac chief for The Guardian is
David Smith, who joins me now.
Speaker 4 (11:13):
Hello, David, good morning.
Speaker 3 (11:15):
So first, Matt Canney. Who is he? He's never been
elected before.
Speaker 4 (11:20):
That's right, yeah, only a limited political background. He actually
started at Harvard University studying economics. He had thirteen years
at Goldman Sachs, so big financial resume. He became Governor
of the Bank of Canada and then for British people
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like me, we became familiar with him as a governor
of the Bank of England and he was dealing with
the tumult of Brexit, Britain's departure from the European Union.
And then he went on to be a UN Special
Envoy for Climate Action and Finance, worked for an investment firm,
and it was just September of last year he became
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the chair of Canadian Liberal Party's Task Force on economic growth,
and now suddenly he's the leader of the Liberal Party
and goings to the Canadian Prime Minister. So in that sense,
it's a meteoric rise after a long career mainly in
finance and banking.
Speaker 3 (12:21):
Yes, but it's a magnificent CV, you have to say.
And he's coming with great confidence, you have to say
as well, because he went hard for Donald Trump right
from the start. So what's the reaction to that being.
Speaker 4 (12:31):
Like, you know, it was striking the way Carne really
laid down the law in terms of his response to
Trump's tariffs and especially this strange notion Trump has been
floating of Canada becoming the fifty first state of the
US and Carlie made clear that is absolutely not going
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to happen. And I would say, so far the reaction
in the US has been relatively muted, and perhaps that's
the biggest then insult of all they can throw at Canada.
You've not seen Trump unleashing a barrage of social media
posts or you know, not graciously welcoming the new leader.
And we haven't heard much from senators or representatives either.
(13:17):
Obviously this this news is being reported in the US media,
But yeah, there's actually not been a great deal of
political reactions so far, which which maybe tells you sadly
where where Canada US relations are and how it's not
seen as a as a huge priority in Washington.
Speaker 9 (13:35):
No.
Speaker 3 (13:36):
But at the same time, this, this has seems to
be the way to actually approach Donald Trump. When he
does his bluster, you bluster him by.
Speaker 9 (13:46):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (13:46):
And we've got this fascinating role call of world leaders
so far, all trying to figure out how do you
handle Donald Trump? And just for example, for a couple
of weeks ago, I was covering the visits of Immanuel
Macron of France and Kirs Starmer of Britain, and both
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of them really used a carrot and stick. They gave
Trump a lot of flattery and people say, you know,
it's like giving candy to a child. And and then,
and obviously Kiir Starmer produced a letter inviting Trump for
a state visit with King Charles. But then on the
other hand, there were moments when both Macron and Starmer
(14:29):
stood up to Trump and corrected him on a shoes
such as European funding of the war in Ukraine. And
then of course we saw a very different approach from
President Zelenski of Ukraine challenging Trump and the JD Evans,
the Vice President in the Oval office, and that unraveled
and turned off a sour and ended up in a
(14:51):
in a shouting match. Then another example is the president
of Mexico has been has been firm with Trump, and
that seems to be working for her so far. We
also have to see how Carmey plays this and for example,
does he push back hard if Trump tries to call
him the governor, Yeah, applying that there should be an
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American province. You know, he may early on want to
draw a line there and say, you know, no, do
not address me as that.
Speaker 3 (15:21):
No, indeed, David Smith, I thank you so much to
the Washington bureau chief for The Guardian. It's News Talks
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Speaker 3 (15:33):
It's News Talks It B. I'm Andrew Dickinson for Ryan Bridge.
It's five twenty seven. So another poll, a couple of them, actually,
the Textpayer Courier poll. We also got research from Horizon
and all the stuff just says we're not happy with
the country right now. Therefore, We're not happy with the government,
no kidding, and things have not been good for a
while now. No matter who was in power, a correction
was needed. Economically, we swamp the nation with cash at
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the start of the pandemic unnecessarily, we can now say
with hindsight, and then as we paid the price, it's
not be nice. So the government is going to be
on the back foot no matter who they are. I
actually think the surprising thing about this poll is how
well the coalition support is holding up. Sure Luxon has
his problem, Sure Seymour and Peters say the most triggering things,
knowing that there's a bunch of people who love it.
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But are the opposition talking any sense at all? Are
they acting like they do any better? I went searching
for policy from Labor. Chris Hipkins over the weekend played
kg with his party's positions. When asked about the capital
gains tax, he prevaricated and then talked cryptically about tax reforms.
What does this mean? Is that what you're voting for?
That's about all the policy talk I can rustle up
from Labor. The Greens of the Bownary Party appear to
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still be on holiday. So all this poll says is
that our blocks are evenly matched in tribal terms. And
the trick will be the swinging voters who vote, of
course for self interest, and they'll do that in eighteen
months time. So let's see what things are like in
eighteen months time. A poll at this time is like
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some small talk at a party, but the party hasn't
even started yet, Dickens, I'd rather they didn't have polls
now in the midterm, and so we could just get
concentrated on the policies and figure out how we feel
and then see how many other people feel the way
we feel later when we get closer to the election.
Speaker 2 (17:17):
But there we go.
Speaker 3 (17:19):
You're loving Marc Conney. I have to say Trump finally
met his match, says the Texter won't bow down to
him exactly. Now it's all about India in the next
half hour. This is early edition and this is news
Talks hit b.
Speaker 4 (17:37):
Hell you.
Speaker 1 (17:47):
Andrew Dickens on the early edition with one roof to
make your property search simple, youth talk hippy.
Speaker 10 (17:55):
Already, So final good or to find well?
Speaker 11 (18:05):
Good by?
Speaker 12 (18:06):
Did to you?
Speaker 3 (18:06):
Welcome to your Tuesday. I'm Andrew Dickins and for Ryan Bridge.
Ryan's back on the show and a month from today,
which means that Heather will be back in her show
a month from today. The Prime Minister, the Prome Minister,
is on his way to India to talk business.
Speaker 9 (18:22):
Now.
Speaker 3 (18:22):
I hope he's got a very nice lightweight linen suit,
because India at the moment is hot. Summer in the
dry season starts in March. This year has come early.
The subcontinent is already sweltering. And I know this because
I know people in India at the moment. This past
weekend saw the Lolapalooza music festival come to Mumbai as
Western record companies realize there's a huge untapped market in India.
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So people like Sure Mendias and Green Day were playing there.
And there's a New Zealand contingent there and they're posting
about the heat and the energy of the new India.
Apparently it's quite breathtaking. The place is booming. The kids
are kids, and they're into their rock and roll and
they're they're wealthy, and it is good that the Prime
Minister is continuing our push into this booming economy. But
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I've got a word of warning about India for the
New Zealand position, because our nuclear free stands does not
go down well in India. They have ambitions to be
in the super Club of nuclear nations. So that's going
to be a tricky road for the Prime Minister. But
I hope he's all ready to navigate it and I
hope for great success. And we'll talk more about this
in about fifteen minutes time with the chair of the
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Indian New Zealand Business Council. Did you know we only
export India is one point five percent of our exports.
That's nothing. Yet this is going to be the third
largest economy in the world very shortly. So that interview
just before six o'clock. Got a text from Simon Already
who says, Andrew, we let India win the cricket so
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we should be quids in. That's great thinking. Twenty two
to six Andrew dickins, we're around the country right now,
and Callum Procter joins us from Duneedan Heller. Callum, morning, Andrew.
The trial into the bus hub stabbing continues.
Speaker 13 (20:01):
Yeah, the court has heard that the teen accused of
murdering a sixteen year old had adopted gangster ways and
the lead up to the fatal attack. The now fourteen
year olds on trial here following the death of anner
Tana McLaren at the bus hub last May. He's pleaded
not guilty on the basis of self defense. Forensic psychiatrist
Brendan Strange told the court that the accused outlook changed
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drastically after being targeted in a violent robbery himself in
twenty twenty three. Strange says that led him to watching
fight videos and carrying a knife to feel safer, and
the last of the evidence is expected to be presented tomorrow.
Speaker 3 (20:39):
How's her weather?
Speaker 8 (20:41):
Rain?
Speaker 13 (20:41):
Heavy thundering with haile this afternoon, gale force southwesterlies and
twenty one yikes.
Speaker 3 (20:46):
Okay, clais Hereberd from CRASIA tell Claire, good morning. So
the rebuild of the schools, that program is going to
be completed by twenty twenty eight.
Speaker 14 (20:54):
Well, yes, finally we have a date, but this has
been pushed out multiple times now, Andrew. As you know,
the christ Church School rebuild program was launched twelve years ago,
back in twenty thirteen. It was meant to finish in
twenty twenty. We now know that will be twenty twenty eight.
The government spending one point six five billion dollars on
repairing or rebuilding one hundred and fifteen quake impacted schools.
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News talks EDB can confirm one hundred of them have
been refurbished or rebuilt. A further eleven are under construction,
three in the planning phase, one yet to even enter
the program. Education Minister Erica Stanford says it is making
strong progress and eight projects are set to be completed
by the end of this year. She's laid out four
priorities to the ministry in order to ensure the projects
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are delivered within her time frame.
Speaker 3 (21:42):
How's your weather fine?
Speaker 14 (21:43):
Aside from some evening cloud later Northwesterlys, the high should
be twenty.
Speaker 3 (21:47):
Five, Max told joins us from Wellington Hellimax.
Speaker 2 (21:50):
Good morning.
Speaker 3 (21:51):
So a waterfront death found to be preventable.
Speaker 2 (21:54):
Yeah, every few years someone falls into the harbor and dies,
more often than not in time. Oxication is a primary cause,
and so every few years we debate waterfront safety and
it's balanced with esthetics, the look of the waterfront. The
body of thirty year old Sandy Culkin was pulled from
the water in twenty twenty one. A new coroner's report
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has found the city council had not heeded previous incidents
and warnings, and therefore that death could have been prevented.
More recently, the council has been spending money installing fencing
around the water's edge. A lot of people have been
commenting thinking it looks ugly. A handful of councilors don't
like it either, but it's not their time right now.
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Calcin had been on the night on a night out
with friends, had left Courtney Place, walked along the waterfront
heading for the train station. No one saw him fall
in in twenty twenty one, but at some point he
must have stumbled or tripped or swayed into the water.
There's a bit of a drop off at several points,
as well of a couple of meters some rocky areas below.
The council also criticized in this coroner's report for really
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bad record keeping AI. It's not been noting accidents near
missus or even how many deaths there have been. We
rely on media archives.
Speaker 3 (23:04):
All right, how's your weather?
Speaker 2 (23:07):
It should be mostly fine, partly cloudy twenty one the
high central.
Speaker 3 (23:10):
Good day for a walk on the waterfront. Keep away
from the edge. Now to awkam we Go Neiva Retamanu
good morning. The people that Birkinghead will be happy because
apparently AT wants to improve only one.
Speaker 15 (23:20):
Road, correct, I tell you. So what's happening is that
they're proposing changes to this north shore road that everyone
here in Auckland is probably well familiar with, including a
shared path for pedestrian cyclists and e scooter users. Let's
see how that goes. So it also wants to improve
pedestrian crossing technology and also a Q detection system. Now
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AT they're wanting feedback on this proposal for the road.
This road obviously carries a lot thirty thousand vehicles a day.
Richard Hills, he's the local councilor. He says, look, it's
important get this that AT and elected representatives. They're not
the only ones making the decisions. So there you have it,
you'll say.
Speaker 3 (23:59):
And move on to Lake Road. Please. Now how's Hawkin's weather?
Speaker 15 (24:02):
Fine car developing this evening. We've got to high twenty
four today.
Speaker 3 (24:06):
And I thank you. It is now seventeen minutes to six.
We're off to Australia in a few moments time. Of course,
they've had the big floods that had the big rain.
Of course, what happens next the insurance claims and already
this argi bardi about it. Donna Tomayo is next here
on Newstalk's het.
Speaker 1 (24:20):
B International Correspondence with Ends and Eye insurance, peace of
mind for New Zealand business.
Speaker 3 (24:27):
What's mistake with our trip to India? That story is
just moments away. This is Newstalk's HEBB is a quarter
to six and we're joined by Donna Tomoro from Australia.
How are Donna, hey, hey, doing very good? We'll start
with this fake terror plot and fourteen people arrested.
Speaker 12 (24:44):
Yes, well, authorities were alerted to a tip off of
a suspicious caravan at a rural property in your South Wales.
This is in January and police discovered it was filled
with both explosives and a note referencing the Great Jewish Sine.
Now we hear from the Australian Federal Police that they
were confident at the time, quite quite early on that
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it was a fabricated terrorist plot. It's a little bit complex,
but basically it was a criminal conjob, according to police,
and it was an elaborate scheme contrived by organized criminals
domestically and offshore. Basically they were trying to create leverage
or leverage information to that's according to the Commissioner. Yes,
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it's the plot literally thickens so but the police have
also said that regardless of the motivation of those responsible
for the fake plot, it has had a chilling effect
on the Jewish community. And we heard it was confirmed
that fourteen arrests were made. They're facing forty nine charges
these people. But police have also confirmed that the person
alleged to have been pulling all the strings behind the
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plot has not yet been arrested.
Speaker 3 (25:58):
Okay, that's interesting, and we have pologize for the Internet
dropouts during that little bit. Let's move to another story.
The Prime Minister is criticizing insurance companies after the flooding.
Speaker 12 (26:09):
Yes, well we know that there's been heavy rain, wild
winds and now flood damage from all since extropical cycling.
After cross the landfall across the weekend, the PM is
now saying that insurance companies are ripping off Australians and
he says that in the wake of the extropical cycling,
now it's a chance for them to repair their reputations.
(26:31):
And so the PM says, yes, you know, he does
believe that insurance companies have plenty of money. They're ripping
Australians off, and we know that there've been doubling premiums
in recent years. In fact, there was an inquiry after
major flooding in Queensland and northern New South Wales in
twenty twenty two, and what did it conclude? While there
were too many insurance cases that were badly mishandled by insurers,
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that they inconsistently offered support, and that more than two
years on many people still had been unable to go home.
So let's see what happens after this disaster.
Speaker 3 (27:07):
Jnand Tomo, I thank you. It is now twelve to six.
So the Prime Minister's just announced he's off to India.
He's going on Saturday and he's going to meet Prime
Minister Noendra Modi. He's taking the largest delegation our Prime
minister has ever traveled with. This is the first visit
since John Key went there in twenty sixteen. I think
this is the third visit that we've had a crack
(27:27):
at this. So Baratchala is the chair of the India
New Zealand Business Council. He joins me, Now hell about it? Hey,
Hell are you very good. Why is this trip so significant?
Speaker 9 (27:39):
I think if you want something done with India, this
would been a strong foundation taking ahead any discussion, any
negotiation with India.
Speaker 3 (27:47):
Okay, So look, only one point five percent of New
Zealand exports go to India. India's on track to be
the third largest economy in the world by twenty thirteen.
Why have we been neglecting this market for so long?
Speaker 9 (27:59):
I think this question has to be asked from a
lot of ministries and political diplomats. It has not been neglected.
It's just a timing was not there. I feel that
the last government with a lot less after twenty sixteen
and that has made us into a kind of a
back seat. But last twelve months with the current government
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and the ministry is going left right center, which is
kind of bringing the things on track. So we can
say that we are late, but we are not too late.
Speaker 2 (28:30):
Okay.
Speaker 3 (28:31):
So what do we have to do in this trip
to make sure that our relationship is closer that we
can increase our terms of trade.
Speaker 9 (28:39):
I think one thing which we can say, or we
can kind of positive say that the meeting with Primnes
Mode is kind of a big win, which we were
at MCBC asking from last since a few years now
getting to a with a bigger delegation show that we
are in a relationship mode. We are not only in
a transitional mode. So this trip kind of gives a
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very good message to inan government and the private companies
in India that Newism is open for business and we
should be looked into.
Speaker 3 (29:10):
What do you think India wants from us? I mean,
what do we make that they will want?
Speaker 9 (29:15):
I think the biggest thing India is looking currently is
investment in India at the same time bringing technology in
India and kind of bringing what they see that helped
to grow India. So currently in every negotiation and every
deal which India is doing, they've been always putting that
how India can grow together with you and that will
(29:36):
help us to grow or grow the other side of
the business too. So what we can do is we
take the investments we talk about the technology transfers. There's
a lot needs and can give to India.
Speaker 3 (29:50):
Is a nuclear free stance a problem because India has
ambitions for their place in the world militarily, they're already
a nuclear power. Is our stance on nuclear energy and power?
Is there a problem when we talk to the Prime
Minister of India.
Speaker 9 (30:05):
I think I don't see that is kind of an
issue with NISIM only because like every country has their
own chance and to be honest news and should say
what they be, what we want to do. But in
a couple of things, India also don't want any anything
which is from a news in perspective that they want
needs in to support on everything. But again at the
(30:26):
trade is one area we talk about. I said, a
nuclear diplomacy is separate area to work in. There's always
kind of a common area to start in. Uh and
we are not too in that discussion of a kind
of nuclear diplomacy yet I can say that.
Speaker 3 (30:42):
Okay, So how confident are you of success?
Speaker 9 (30:45):
Finally, I think I think from my we are we
are a lot positive, a lot optimistic. Now a lot
have been done by a lot of companies from New
Zealand to India or in India and last twenty four
months to make this happen. So this is a perfect
opportunity and a perfect I say that TAILWND for New
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Zealand to get something from India.
Speaker 3 (31:09):
Absolutely. Bartatala, I thank you so much for your town here.
As the chair of the India and New Zealand Business Council,
and it is good to hear that both sides are
so keen to further the relationships with both sides. Mark
sent me a text saying, well, India's already in nuclear power.
The best thing we can do is engage with the India.
More is actually to understand the diaspora, use them as
a bridge. And of course they are ten percent of
(31:30):
the Augan population. The average age of India, Mark says,
and he's right is twenty eight. They're young, and they're thriving,
and they're ambitious. One point four billion people there.
Speaker 9 (31:41):
Wow.
Speaker 3 (31:42):
And Mark reckon is the way to think about India
is Europe because there are many cultures of many climates,
but there is one country with a common story, set
of values that can get on well with New Zealand.
Thank you for your text, Mark newstorlks B. It is
seven to.
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Speaker 3 (32:04):
Said be five to six. Mike Hoskin joins me ever.
Speaker 16 (32:07):
Been to India and never never been to India, ever
had a desire to go to India. No, not particularly really, well,
you talk to cricketers about it. But having said that,
really interesting thing I read the other day and you
talked about their population. People misunderstand their population. There's only
one hundred and twenty million people who have got any money.
So they've just done the study the other day, and
there's what they would call, and Luxton referred to it
(32:28):
yesterday as the burgeoning middle class, and there's about four
or five hundred million of those, but they're very reluctant
to spend because they've never had any money and they
don't know what to do with it. So there's one
hundred and twenty million people who are wealthy, and so
those are the people. Really that's just the size of Mexico.
So those are the people you're aiming for them, very
very wealthy, very very wealthy. And so the rich are
getting richer, and that middle class isn't necessarily growing, and
(32:50):
the ones that are growing don't know what to do
with their money, so they're what they call reluctant consumers.
Which is not to say we shouldn't go to India
and cross trade deal, but nevertheless, it's not quite as
big as people make it out to be. And the
other thing, of course, is the reason we've never done
it properly is because they've got a major issue with
agriculture and dairy and they don't want to do free
trade for obvious reasons. So I don't know what we're doing.
(33:10):
It also comes across against the backdrop, of course, at
the moment that free trades dead in the world, really,
and so we're doing That's why he was talking yesterday
about doing more of a good trade deal. I don't
know who's opposed to a great one.
Speaker 3 (33:21):
I don't know if you know, actually Paige, but he's
in the music business. He's over there at the moment
of Mumbai. He's gone over for a lot of palooza
because of course now they're doing rocks festivals there because
suddenly the middle class ones rock and roll. Well, he said,
the whole thing. The best thing about Mumbai was just
how modern it was, how good it was, how organized
it was, how lovely it was Pristine's city. But also
(33:43):
it's extraordinarily hot.
Speaker 16 (33:46):
That's about it. We're talking to the head of the
delegation to rees Walsh, Dame to rees Walsh, and so
I can't work out whether it's large just because India
is large, or because you do that thing whereby you
turn up with the whole planeload of people and go
look at all the people we've brought.
Speaker 3 (34:00):
Something about throwing stuff on a wall could be that.
Speaker 16 (34:02):
So anyway, and wall sexy. It's not only who but
Prime Minister Tuesday very.
Speaker 3 (34:05):
Good and I thank you, and I thank producer Kensey
for putting together the show and Tyler for setting it up.
But my name's Andrew Dickens and I'll see you again tomorrow.
Speaker 11 (34:12):
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a new poll and the poll shows that Chris Hopkins
is more popular than Christopher Luxon, but only just so
what could the Prime Minister do to bolster his popularity?
Speaker 4 (00:27):
Will have that story for.
Speaker 3 (00:27):
You in five minutes. Canada has a new prime minister,
so who is Mark Carney and will his hardline attitude
to Donald Trump work? Will have that story for you
in ten minutes time. And the Prime Minister is heading
to India, so what is he going to find there?
We'll look at all the angles. After five point thirty
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Speaker 1 (01:01):
The agenda, it's Tuesday, the.
Speaker 3 (01:04):
Eleventh of March, at least thirty six people have been
brought ashore and one person has been taken to hospital
after a US flagged oil tanker collided with a cargo
vessel in the North Sea. The US flagged Stinner Immeculate,
which is one of the ten vessels the US military
used to carry fuel, appears to have been hit by
a Portuguese flag container ship. So long and now jet
(01:27):
fuel has been spilling into the water.
Speaker 5 (01:29):
It seems that we know exactly what happened here from
tracking data. I see what happened, not why it happened.
We know that the oil tanker was at anchor, it
was effectively stopped in the North Sea, and the salong
was coming from the ports of Grainsmouth in Scotland going
across to Rotterdam, and it hit the oil tanker pretty
(01:50):
much head on.
Speaker 3 (01:52):
Wow, so long, so long now. Ukrainian President Zelenski has
arrived in Saudi Arabia for a state visit. He won't
be attending talk with US officials on Tuesday local time,
but Kiev is expected to push for a truce with
Russia in the sea and the sky.
Speaker 6 (02:08):
Well, I'm confident that the meeting will be productive. We
in Ukraine are committed to this very.
Speaker 1 (02:13):
Much, so hosorables.
Speaker 6 (02:15):
We will do our best to ensure that Ukrainian interests
are taken into account, taken into account in the right way.
Speaker 3 (02:21):
And it remains unclear what Washington is prepared to offer
an exchange for access to Ukraine's mineral wealth. A State
of Department official says the US believes Kiev is ready
to move forward. Meanwhile, a Kremlin spokesperson says Russia is
at an initial stage of restoring bilateral relations with the US,
adding that the conversations between Trump and Putin have been constructive.
(02:44):
And finally, Canada's next president, Mark Karney, has vowed to
win the trade war against US President Donald Trump after
a landslide victory to replace Justin to Trudeau. Karney, who
will be sworn in as PM in the coming days,
has also pledged retaliatory tariffs on US goods until Americans
show some respects.
Speaker 7 (03:02):
So Donald Trump thinks thinks he can weaken US with
his plan to divide and conquer, pre Polyev's plan will
leave us divided and ready to be conquered. Because a
person who worships at the altar of Donald Trump, will
(03:22):
kneel before him, not stand up to Dad.
Speaker 3 (03:26):
That is Marc Canny never been elected. We'll talk more
about this in mister Pember's time and find out more
about him. Oh meanwhile, dug Ford don't know if you know
about him. He's a hard man against Trump as well.
He is the Premier of Ontario. He's also unveiling his
plans to impose retiliatory electricity tariffs on the United States.
Speaker 1 (03:44):
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It's ten after five. Well, congratulations New Zealand. We're getting
a new road. Registrations of interest will open this week
for a four lane extension of State Highway One between
Walkworth and the little town of Tehanna as a continuation
of the road that was once described as the Holiday Highway.
But really we know it's the key to unlocking the
potential of Northland and busy beavers at NZATA have been
(04:17):
coming up with a plan for a while now. It's
got a spiffy animated video and all, and now the
government is looking for a partner to build and run
the Northland Expressway and so the project will take pride
in place in this business investment conference. The government has
spent a million bucks on organizing. Now, the surprising thing
for me is that this is news. In the first place.
Our roading program ebbs and flows with the passing of
(04:39):
each successive government, and that is a weakness. And every
new government seizes on the plans that are already in
place to show that something is happening during their reign.
And it shouldn't be this way. Our schedule of infrastructure
build should be known decades into the future to give
certainty to construction firms and financiers in Germany. In Germany,
(04:59):
they lay two hundred kilometers of new railtrack every single
year because they have a long term plan and the
regularity of that work means that the specialized labor that
builds them has a predictable workflow, means they don't just
pack up and leave every time a project is finished with,
which is what happens here. I have a mate who's
(05:19):
a tunneling engineer and his lifestyle is bizarre because he
doesn't know where the next tunnel is. He keeps on
moving to other countries where there's work. He doesn't like that,
he doesn't enjoy that, he'd rather do without the upheaval.
But he never knows what's happening in the future of
this country. Now, this is something we've talked about, and
this is something that they say the Infrastructure Commission is
(05:41):
supposed to be working on to fix. So the thing is,
don't tell me about next year's road, tell me about
the one we're going to get in twenty years. Andrew Dickens,
twelve after five. A little other debate I heard on
the radio yesterday was about body armor cameras and a
call from David Lttelly that they should be compulsory. Let's
be honest. Body or cameras are inevitable with the level
(06:06):
of violence in society and the unenviable job the police have.
The cold hard evidence of what goes down in the
situation is vital. You need a camera. It's widespread and
the rest of the world, so it's coming. Arguments against it,
and I heard this and talk back with Matt and
Tyler yesterday. Arguments against it include the claim that storing
the images are expensive, but anyone who has a home
(06:27):
camera knows there's a ton of storage in every twenty
dollars mini SD card. Now the whole thing won't be cheap,
but nor will it be expensive. But here's the question
for you. Is now the time to spend money on
tech rather than using the police budget on feet on
the beat. I don't think so, but provision for it
(06:48):
must be in the budgets in the future. It is
five point thirteen. So the polls. I'll have some words
about the polls a bit later on. I think it's
the wrong time for polls when we're eighteen months away
from an election, but there and the talk is about
how the Prime Minister is not cutting it or not
getting through, not getting his message across, not being liked.
And we'll talk about this in a few moments time
(07:09):
with a fellow who is a professor of marketing at
the University of Auckland. This is News Talks, heb It
is coming up fourteen after five.
Speaker 1 (07:17):
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Speaker 3 (07:26):
Said be werena Taxpayer's Union Courier poll yesterday and it
showed that the National Party have fallen behind Labor in
popularity it's only half a percent though, But the interesting
thing in a way was that Chris Hipkins is above
Christopher Luxen for preferred Prime Minister. So I'm joined now
by Auckland University Associate Professor of Marketing, Michael Lee. Michael,
(07:47):
good morning to you.
Speaker 1 (07:48):
Good morning, Mike.
Speaker 3 (07:50):
What's your reading of the PM's communication style, because people
are saying that he's not cutting through.
Speaker 8 (07:56):
I think I've heard some of the interviews where you've
had a little game of cat and mouse with him,
trying to get him to commit to something. And you know,
for the most part, he's pretty good when he knows
what he wants to say. But I think what he
gets a bit stick He is obviously when he's been
pressed for something that he's clearly keen not to give
a definitive answer for, and then he comes across a
(08:18):
little bit evasive sometimes, and I think that's probably what's
happening people. I think, why don't you just answer the question, well.
Speaker 3 (08:25):
Is he too married to bullet points from his prep?
Speaker 1 (08:28):
Sorry?
Speaker 9 (08:29):
What was that?
Speaker 3 (08:30):
Is he too married to the bullet points that he's prepared?
Speaker 8 (08:34):
Yeah, that could be a stick to what you want
to say and don't get pressed into engaging in any
conversation that you're not comfortable answering. I think that does
come across.
Speaker 3 (08:44):
But you see, the thing is, if you're going to
say something, you have to say it like you believe it,
and therefore you should be able to say it immediately.
Speaker 8 (08:51):
Yeah, exactly. And so what we see is the points
that he's comfortable talking to, he can be quite decisive
and comes across quite strong. But then when you catch
him on something that he's not clear about or does
not want to engage in the conversation, then he becomes
very evasive.
Speaker 9 (09:08):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (09:08):
Well, that's the difficulty about being the Prime minister. You
have to be the spokesperson on everything and you have
to be across everything. So I would say that there
are people in the back benches of the National Party
who would like to see him polling a bit higher.
What could he do to improve.
Speaker 8 (09:22):
Well, a couple of the things that you've caught him on,
like the whether or not there is a deal for
the theory and whether or not he would sack that chat.
He could have answered with something like you know, if
it depends or maybe or I've had to look into that,
or there are circumstances that I'm not on top of
(09:46):
right now that I would have to get back to you.
So there are ways of answering that shows that, look,
he would like to answer, but he doesn't want to
answer in a way that you know, would get him
in trouble or the other person in trouble later on.
So I think there's a reason why he can answer.
The issue is that he's just giving you the same
response over and over again, and that's getting frustrating for
(10:09):
both of you, and obviously the listeners can probably share
their evasiveness going.
Speaker 3 (10:13):
On absolutely, Thank you so much, Mike Lee, who I
think thinks I might be called Mike. It is five
eighteen NEWSTALKSB. Who is Mark Canney. He's come out like
a horse out of the gate. He's the new Prime
Minister of Canada. We'll talk about Matt Canney in the Modent.
Speaker 1 (10:30):
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Speaker 3 (10:39):
By twenty one, Canada has a new prime minister. His
name is Mac Canney and the Liberals love him. He
got eighty five percent of the vote and In his
acceptance speech, he promised to win the trade war.
Speaker 7 (10:52):
My government will keep our tariffs on until the Americans
show us respect. But Canadians are always ready when someone
else drops the gloves. So any Americans, they should make
no mistake in trade. As in hockey, Canada will win.
Speaker 3 (11:10):
I tink talk Washington. Bureac chief for The Guardian is
David Smith, who joins me now.
Speaker 4 (11:13):
Hello, David, good morning.
Speaker 3 (11:15):
So first, Matt Canney. Who is he? He's never been
elected before.
Speaker 4 (11:20):
That's right, yeah, only a limited political background. He actually
started at Harvard University studying economics. He had thirteen years
at Goldman Sachs, so big financial resume. He became Governor
of the Bank of Canada and then for British people
(11:42):
like me, we became familiar with him as a governor
of the Bank of England and he was dealing with
the tumult of Brexit, Britain's departure from the European Union.
And then he went on to be a UN Special
Envoy for Climate Action and Finance, worked for an investment firm,
and it was just September of last year he became
(12:04):
the chair of Canadian Liberal Party's Task Force on economic growth,
and now suddenly he's the leader of the Liberal Party
and goings to the Canadian Prime Minister. So in that sense,
it's a meteoric rise after a long career mainly in
finance and banking.
Speaker 3 (12:21):
Yes, but it's a magnificent CV, you have to say.
And he's coming with great confidence, you have to say
as well, because he went hard for Donald Trump right
from the start. So what's the reaction to that being.
Speaker 4 (12:31):
Like, you know, it was striking the way Carne really
laid down the law in terms of his response to
Trump's tariffs and especially this strange notion Trump has been
floating of Canada becoming the fifty first state of the
US and Carlie made clear that is absolutely not going
(12:52):
to happen. And I would say, so far the reaction
in the US has been relatively muted, and perhaps that's
the biggest then insult of all they can throw at Canada.
You've not seen Trump unleashing a barrage of social media
posts or you know, not graciously welcoming the new leader.
And we haven't heard much from senators or representatives either.
(13:17):
Obviously this this news is being reported in the US media,
But yeah, there's actually not been a great deal of
political reactions so far, which which maybe tells you sadly
where where Canada US relations are and how it's not
seen as a as a huge priority in Washington.
Speaker 9 (13:35):
No.
Speaker 3 (13:36):
But at the same time, this, this has seems to
be the way to actually approach Donald Trump. When he
does his bluster, you bluster him by.
Speaker 9 (13:46):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (13:46):
And we've got this fascinating role call of world leaders
so far, all trying to figure out how do you
handle Donald Trump? And just for example, for a couple
of weeks ago, I was covering the visits of Immanuel
Macron of France and Kirs Starmer of Britain, and both
(14:06):
of them really used a carrot and stick. They gave
Trump a lot of flattery and people say, you know,
it's like giving candy to a child. And and then,
and obviously Kiir Starmer produced a letter inviting Trump for
a state visit with King Charles. But then on the
other hand, there were moments when both Macron and Starmer
(14:29):
stood up to Trump and corrected him on a shoes
such as European funding of the war in Ukraine. And
then of course we saw a very different approach from
President Zelenski of Ukraine challenging Trump and the JD Evans,
the Vice President in the Oval office, and that unraveled
and turned off a sour and ended up in a
(14:51):
in a shouting match. Then another example is the president
of Mexico has been has been firm with Trump, and
that seems to be working for her so far. We
also have to see how Carmey plays this and for example,
does he push back hard if Trump tries to call
him the governor, Yeah, applying that there should be an
(15:14):
American province. You know, he may early on want to
draw a line there and say, you know, no, do
not address me as that.
Speaker 3 (15:21):
No, indeed, David Smith, I thank you so much to
the Washington bureau chief for The Guardian. It's News Talks
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It's five twenty seven. So another poll, a couple of them, actually,
the Textpayer Courier poll. We also got research from Horizon
and all the stuff just says we're not happy with
the country right now. Therefore, We're not happy with the government,
no kidding, and things have not been good for a
while now. No matter who was in power, a correction
was needed. Economically, we swamp the nation with cash at
(15:56):
the start of the pandemic unnecessarily, we can now say
with hindsight, and then as we paid the price, it's
not be nice. So the government is going to be
on the back foot no matter who they are. I
actually think the surprising thing about this poll is how
well the coalition support is holding up. Sure Luxon has
his problem, Sure Seymour and Peters say the most triggering things,
knowing that there's a bunch of people who love it.
(16:17):
But are the opposition talking any sense at all? Are
they acting like they do any better? I went searching
for policy from Labor. Chris Hipkins over the weekend played
kg with his party's positions. When asked about the capital
gains tax, he prevaricated and then talked cryptically about tax reforms.
What does this mean? Is that what you're voting for?
That's about all the policy talk I can rustle up
from Labor. The Greens of the Bownary Party appear to
(16:40):
still be on holiday. So all this poll says is
that our blocks are evenly matched in tribal terms. And
the trick will be the swinging voters who vote, of
course for self interest, and they'll do that in eighteen
months time. So let's see what things are like in
eighteen months time. A poll at this time is like
(17:00):
some small talk at a party, but the party hasn't
even started yet, Dickens, I'd rather they didn't have polls
now in the midterm, and so we could just get
concentrated on the policies and figure out how we feel
and then see how many other people feel the way
we feel later when we get closer to the election.
Speaker 2 (17:17):
But there we go.
Speaker 3 (17:19):
You're loving Marc Conney. I have to say Trump finally
met his match, says the Texter won't bow down to
him exactly. Now it's all about India in the next
half hour. This is early edition and this is news
Talks hit b.
Speaker 4 (17:37):
Hell you.
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Speaker 10 (17:55):
Already, So final good or to find well?
Speaker 11 (18:05):
Good by?
Speaker 12 (18:06):
Did to you?
Speaker 3 (18:06):
Welcome to your Tuesday. I'm Andrew Dickins and for Ryan Bridge.
Ryan's back on the show and a month from today,
which means that Heather will be back in her show
a month from today. The Prime Minister, the Prome Minister,
is on his way to India to talk business.
Speaker 9 (18:22):
Now.
Speaker 3 (18:22):
I hope he's got a very nice lightweight linen suit,
because India at the moment is hot. Summer in the
dry season starts in March. This year has come early.
The subcontinent is already sweltering. And I know this because
I know people in India at the moment. This past
weekend saw the Lolapalooza music festival come to Mumbai as
Western record companies realize there's a huge untapped market in India.
(18:44):
So people like Sure Mendias and Green Day were playing there.
And there's a New Zealand contingent there and they're posting
about the heat and the energy of the new India.
Apparently it's quite breathtaking. The place is booming. The kids
are kids, and they're into their rock and roll and
they're they're wealthy, and it is good that the Prime
Minister is continuing our push into this booming economy. But
(19:06):
I've got a word of warning about India for the
New Zealand position, because our nuclear free stands does not
go down well in India. They have ambitions to be
in the super Club of nuclear nations. So that's going
to be a tricky road for the Prime Minister. But
I hope he's all ready to navigate it and I
hope for great success. And we'll talk more about this
in about fifteen minutes time with the chair of the
(19:27):
Indian New Zealand Business Council. Did you know we only
export India is one point five percent of our exports.
That's nothing. Yet this is going to be the third
largest economy in the world very shortly. So that interview
just before six o'clock. Got a text from Simon Already
who says, Andrew, we let India win the cricket so
(19:48):
we should be quids in. That's great thinking. Twenty two
to six Andrew dickins, we're around the country right now,
and Callum Procter joins us from Duneedan Heller. Callum, morning, Andrew.
The trial into the bus hub stabbing continues.
Speaker 13 (20:01):
Yeah, the court has heard that the teen accused of
murdering a sixteen year old had adopted gangster ways and
the lead up to the fatal attack. The now fourteen
year olds on trial here following the death of anner
Tana McLaren at the bus hub last May. He's pleaded
not guilty on the basis of self defense. Forensic psychiatrist
Brendan Strange told the court that the accused outlook changed
(20:25):
drastically after being targeted in a violent robbery himself in
twenty twenty three. Strange says that led him to watching
fight videos and carrying a knife to feel safer, and
the last of the evidence is expected to be presented tomorrow.
Speaker 3 (20:39):
How's her weather?
Speaker 8 (20:41):
Rain?
Speaker 13 (20:41):
Heavy thundering with haile this afternoon, gale force southwesterlies and
twenty one yikes.
Speaker 3 (20:46):
Okay, clais Hereberd from CRASIA tell Claire, good morning. So
the rebuild of the schools, that program is going to
be completed by twenty twenty eight.
Speaker 14 (20:54):
Well, yes, finally we have a date, but this has
been pushed out multiple times now, Andrew. As you know,
the christ Church School rebuild program was launched twelve years ago,
back in twenty thirteen. It was meant to finish in
twenty twenty. We now know that will be twenty twenty eight.
The government spending one point six five billion dollars on
repairing or rebuilding one hundred and fifteen quake impacted schools.
(21:18):
News talks EDB can confirm one hundred of them have
been refurbished or rebuilt. A further eleven are under construction,
three in the planning phase, one yet to even enter
the program. Education Minister Erica Stanford says it is making
strong progress and eight projects are set to be completed
by the end of this year. She's laid out four
priorities to the ministry in order to ensure the projects
(21:40):
are delivered within her time frame.
Speaker 3 (21:42):
How's your weather fine?
Speaker 14 (21:43):
Aside from some evening cloud later Northwesterlys, the high should
be twenty.
Speaker 3 (21:47):
Five, Max told joins us from Wellington Hellimax.
Speaker 2 (21:50):
Good morning.
Speaker 3 (21:51):
So a waterfront death found to be preventable.
Speaker 2 (21:54):
Yeah, every few years someone falls into the harbor and dies,
more often than not in time. Oxication is a primary cause,
and so every few years we debate waterfront safety and
it's balanced with esthetics, the look of the waterfront. The
body of thirty year old Sandy Culkin was pulled from
the water in twenty twenty one. A new coroner's report
(22:15):
has found the city council had not heeded previous incidents
and warnings, and therefore that death could have been prevented.
More recently, the council has been spending money installing fencing
around the water's edge. A lot of people have been
commenting thinking it looks ugly. A handful of councilors don't
like it either, but it's not their time right now.
(22:35):
Calcin had been on the night on a night out
with friends, had left Courtney Place, walked along the waterfront
heading for the train station. No one saw him fall
in in twenty twenty one, but at some point he
must have stumbled or tripped or swayed into the water.
There's a bit of a drop off at several points,
as well of a couple of meters some rocky areas below.
The council also criticized in this coroner's report for really
(22:56):
bad record keeping AI. It's not been noting accidents near
missus or even how many deaths there have been. We
rely on media archives.
Speaker 3 (23:04):
All right, how's your weather?
Speaker 2 (23:07):
It should be mostly fine, partly cloudy twenty one the
high central.
Speaker 3 (23:10):
Good day for a walk on the waterfront. Keep away
from the edge. Now to awkam we Go Neiva Retamanu
good morning. The people that Birkinghead will be happy because
apparently AT wants to improve only one.
Speaker 15 (23:20):
Road, correct, I tell you. So what's happening is that
they're proposing changes to this north shore road that everyone
here in Auckland is probably well familiar with, including a
shared path for pedestrian cyclists and e scooter users. Let's
see how that goes. So it also wants to improve
pedestrian crossing technology and also a Q detection system. Now
(23:41):
AT they're wanting feedback on this proposal for the road.
This road obviously carries a lot thirty thousand vehicles a day.
Richard Hills, he's the local councilor. He says, look, it's
important get this that AT and elected representatives. They're not
the only ones making the decisions. So there you have it,
you'll say.
Speaker 3 (23:59):
And move on to Lake Road. Please. Now how's Hawkin's weather?
Speaker 15 (24:02):
Fine car developing this evening. We've got to high twenty
four today.
Speaker 3 (24:06):
And I thank you. It is now seventeen minutes to six.
We're off to Australia in a few moments time. Of course,
they've had the big floods that had the big rain.
Of course, what happens next the insurance claims and already
this argi bardi about it. Donna Tomayo is next here
on Newstalk's het.
Speaker 1 (24:20):
B International Correspondence with Ends and Eye insurance, peace of
mind for New Zealand business.
Speaker 3 (24:27):
What's mistake with our trip to India? That story is
just moments away. This is Newstalk's HEBB is a quarter
to six and we're joined by Donna Tomoro from Australia.
How are Donna, hey, hey, doing very good? We'll start
with this fake terror plot and fourteen people arrested.
Speaker 12 (24:44):
Yes, well, authorities were alerted to a tip off of
a suspicious caravan at a rural property in your South Wales.
This is in January and police discovered it was filled
with both explosives and a note referencing the Great Jewish Sine.
Now we hear from the Australian Federal Police that they
were confident at the time, quite quite early on that
(25:07):
it was a fabricated terrorist plot. It's a little bit complex,
but basically it was a criminal conjob, according to police,
and it was an elaborate scheme contrived by organized criminals
domestically and offshore. Basically they were trying to create leverage
or leverage information to that's according to the Commissioner. Yes,
(25:34):
it's the plot literally thickens so but the police have
also said that regardless of the motivation of those responsible
for the fake plot, it has had a chilling effect
on the Jewish community. And we heard it was confirmed
that fourteen arrests were made. They're facing forty nine charges
these people. But police have also confirmed that the person
alleged to have been pulling all the strings behind the
(25:56):
plot has not yet been arrested.
Speaker 3 (25:58):
Okay, that's interesting, and we have pologize for the Internet
dropouts during that little bit. Let's move to another story.
The Prime Minister is criticizing insurance companies after the flooding.
Speaker 12 (26:09):
Yes, well we know that there's been heavy rain, wild
winds and now flood damage from all since extropical cycling.
After cross the landfall across the weekend, the PM is
now saying that insurance companies are ripping off Australians and
he says that in the wake of the extropical cycling,
now it's a chance for them to repair their reputations.
(26:31):
And so the PM says, yes, you know, he does
believe that insurance companies have plenty of money. They're ripping
Australians off, and we know that there've been doubling premiums
in recent years. In fact, there was an inquiry after
major flooding in Queensland and northern New South Wales in
twenty twenty two, and what did it conclude? While there
were too many insurance cases that were badly mishandled by insurers,
(26:55):
that they inconsistently offered support, and that more than two
years on many people still had been unable to go home.
So let's see what happens after this disaster.
Speaker 3 (27:07):
Jnand Tomo, I thank you. It is now twelve to six.
So the Prime Minister's just announced he's off to India.
He's going on Saturday and he's going to meet Prime
Minister Noendra Modi. He's taking the largest delegation our Prime
minister has ever traveled with. This is the first visit
since John Key went there in twenty sixteen. I think
this is the third visit that we've had a crack
(27:27):
at this. So Baratchala is the chair of the India
New Zealand Business Council. He joins me, Now hell about it? Hey,
Hell are you very good. Why is this trip so significant?
Speaker 9 (27:39):
I think if you want something done with India, this
would been a strong foundation taking ahead any discussion, any
negotiation with India.
Speaker 3 (27:47):
Okay, So look, only one point five percent of New
Zealand exports go to India. India's on track to be
the third largest economy in the world by twenty thirteen.
Why have we been neglecting this market for so long?
Speaker 9 (27:59):
I think this question has to be asked from a
lot of ministries and political diplomats. It has not been neglected.
It's just a timing was not there. I feel that
the last government with a lot less after twenty sixteen
and that has made us into a kind of a
back seat. But last twelve months with the current government
(28:20):
and the ministry is going left right center, which is
kind of bringing the things on track. So we can
say that we are late, but we are not too late.
Speaker 2 (28:30):
Okay.
Speaker 3 (28:31):
So what do we have to do in this trip
to make sure that our relationship is closer that we
can increase our terms of trade.
Speaker 9 (28:39):
I think one thing which we can say, or we
can kind of positive say that the meeting with Primnes
Mode is kind of a big win, which we were
at MCBC asking from last since a few years now
getting to a with a bigger delegation show that we
are in a relationship mode. We are not only in
a transitional mode. So this trip kind of gives a
(29:03):
very good message to inan government and the private companies
in India that Newism is open for business and we
should be looked into.
Speaker 3 (29:10):
What do you think India wants from us? I mean,
what do we make that they will want?
Speaker 9 (29:15):
I think the biggest thing India is looking currently is
investment in India at the same time bringing technology in
India and kind of bringing what they see that helped
to grow India. So currently in every negotiation and every
deal which India is doing, they've been always putting that
how India can grow together with you and that will
(29:36):
help us to grow or grow the other side of
the business too. So what we can do is we
take the investments we talk about the technology transfers. There's
a lot needs and can give to India.
Speaker 3 (29:50):
Is a nuclear free stance a problem because India has
ambitions for their place in the world militarily, they're already
a nuclear power. Is our stance on nuclear energy and power?
Is there a problem when we talk to the Prime
Minister of India.
Speaker 9 (30:05):
I think I don't see that is kind of an
issue with NISIM only because like every country has their
own chance and to be honest news and should say
what they be, what we want to do. But in
a couple of things, India also don't want any anything
which is from a news in perspective that they want
needs in to support on everything. But again at the
(30:26):
trade is one area we talk about. I said, a
nuclear diplomacy is separate area to work in. There's always
kind of a common area to start in. Uh and
we are not too in that discussion of a kind
of nuclear diplomacy yet I can say that.
Speaker 3 (30:42):
Okay, So how confident are you of success?
Speaker 9 (30:45):
Finally, I think I think from my we are we
are a lot positive, a lot optimistic. Now a lot
have been done by a lot of companies from New
Zealand to India or in India and last twenty four
months to make this happen. So this is a perfect
opportunity and a perfect I say that TAILWND for New
(31:07):
Zealand to get something from India.
Speaker 3 (31:09):
Absolutely. Bartatala, I thank you so much for your town here.
As the chair of the India and New Zealand Business Council,
and it is good to hear that both sides are
so keen to further the relationships with both sides. Mark
sent me a text saying, well, India's already in nuclear power.
The best thing we can do is engage with the India.
More is actually to understand the diaspora, use them as
a bridge. And of course they are ten percent of
(31:30):
the Augan population. The average age of India, Mark says,
and he's right is twenty eight. They're young, and they're thriving,
and they're ambitious. One point four billion people there.
Speaker 9 (31:41):
Wow.
Speaker 3 (31:42):
And Mark reckon is the way to think about India
is Europe because there are many cultures of many climates,
but there is one country with a common story, set
of values that can get on well with New Zealand.
Thank you for your text, Mark newstorlks B. It is
seven to.
Speaker 1 (31:55):
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Speaker 3 (32:04):
Said be five to six. Mike Hoskin joins me ever.
Speaker 16 (32:07):
Been to India and never never been to India, ever
had a desire to go to India. No, not particularly really, well,
you talk to cricketers about it. But having said that,
really interesting thing I read the other day and you
talked about their population. People misunderstand their population. There's only
one hundred and twenty million people who have got any money.
So they've just done the study the other day, and
there's what they would call, and Luxton referred to it
(32:28):
yesterday as the burgeoning middle class, and there's about four
or five hundred million of those, but they're very reluctant
to spend because they've never had any money and they
don't know what to do with it. So there's one
hundred and twenty million people who are wealthy, and so
those are the people. Really that's just the size of Mexico.
So those are the people you're aiming for them, very
very wealthy, very very wealthy. And so the rich are
getting richer, and that middle class isn't necessarily growing, and
(32:50):
the ones that are growing don't know what to do
with their money, so they're what they call reluctant consumers.
Which is not to say we shouldn't go to India
and cross trade deal, but nevertheless, it's not quite as
big as people make it out to be. And the
other thing, of course, is the reason we've never done
it properly is because they've got a major issue with
agriculture and dairy and they don't want to do free
trade for obvious reasons. So I don't know what we're doing.
(33:10):
It also comes across against the backdrop, of course, at
the moment that free trades dead in the world, really,
and so we're doing That's why he was talking yesterday
about doing more of a good trade deal. I don't
know who's opposed to a great one.
Speaker 3 (33:21):
I don't know if you know, actually Paige, but he's
in the music business. He's over there at the moment
of Mumbai. He's gone over for a lot of palooza
because of course now they're doing rocks festivals there because
suddenly the middle class ones rock and roll. Well, he said,
the whole thing. The best thing about Mumbai was just
how modern it was, how good it was, how organized
it was, how lovely it was Pristine's city. But also
(33:43):
it's extraordinarily hot.
Speaker 16 (33:46):
That's about it. We're talking to the head of the
delegation to rees Walsh, Dame to rees Walsh, and so
I can't work out whether it's large just because India
is large, or because you do that thing whereby you
turn up with the whole planeload of people and go
look at all the people we've brought.
Speaker 3 (34:00):
Something about throwing stuff on a wall could be that.
Speaker 16 (34:02):
So anyway, and wall sexy. It's not only who but
Prime Minister Tuesday very.
Speaker 3 (34:05):
Good and I thank you, and I thank producer Kensey
for putting together the show and Tyler for setting it up.
But my name's Andrew Dickens and I'll see you again tomorrow.
Speaker 11 (34:12):
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Speaker 1 (34:28):
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