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March 30, 2025 • 34 mins

On the Early Edition with Full Show Podcast Monday 31st of March 2025, nearly half of the Government's contractor and consultancy spending cuts are set to come from Health NZ, Former Health Nz Chair Rob Campbell shares his thoughts. 

The Government's looking at bringing a third player in the grocery sector to break up the duopoly, Grocery Policy Expert Ernie Newman  tells Andrew Dickens how this could work. 

Andrew Alderson has all the latest sport from over the weekend. 

UK/ Europe Correspondent shares the latest on the chair of the charity set up by Prince Harry has accusing him of "harassment and bullying at scale" after he and several others quit the organisation earlier this week. 

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Speaker 1 (00:02):
The issues is the interviews and the inside Andrew Dickens
on early edition with one roof make your property search
simple new stalks.

Speaker 2 (00:11):
That'd be well, good morning, here we go again. The
grind is on. Here we go, Here we go, Here
we go. What are we talking about in the next hour? Well,
the government is cracking down on consultants. But will that
cripple our health sector? That story in five The Warriors
scrape home against the Tigers Andrew Ordison on Sport and
ten and the government setting its side on this supermarket sector.

(00:31):
So is this just words or will something actually happen
this time? Ernie Newman will join us just before six.
We'll have correspondence from right around New Zealand, Gavin Gray
out of the UK, and news as it breaks. You
can have your saying by using the text machine. Small
charge does apply. The number is ninety two ninety two.
It's seven after five.

Speaker 3 (00:51):
The agenda, Well, it's Monday.

Speaker 2 (00:53):
The thirty first of March, and rescue teams from around
the world are in me and Mah after a powerful
seven point seven magnitude earthquakes struck, killing seventeen hundred people
and Thailand. The death toll in Bangkok has risen to
eighteen with seventy six workers missing at a collapse high
rise under construction. Search and rescue efforts are underway in
both countries, as Thailand's Deputy Prime Minister says rescuers have

(01:16):
detected signs of life under the rubble at the collapse
building site.

Speaker 4 (01:21):
He has had.

Speaker 5 (01:22):
My mom was working on the twenty eight Flora.

Speaker 6 (01:24):
There's still in all news on Madame antav. The rescue
team was too slow. I was here at four am.
No officials, no cranes, nothing. The crane didn't even start
work until nine am. If the victims were still alive,
bleeding under the rubble, how could they survive?

Speaker 2 (01:41):
Vice President J. D. Vance and his wife Usha have
visited the US Patufic Space base in Greenland as President
Donald Trump continues to push for the US to take
over the Danish semi autonomous territory. Speaking to troops, Vance
says military force is not necessary for the US to
expand its presence in green Land and that locals will
want to choose to align with the US instead of Denmark.

Speaker 7 (02:05):
Our message to Denmark is very simple. You have not
done a good job by the people of Greenland. You've
underinvested in the people of Greenland, and you have underinvested
in the security architecture of this incredible, beautiful land mass
filled with incredible people.

Speaker 3 (02:21):
That has to change.

Speaker 2 (02:23):
And the chair of the charity set up by Prince
Harry has accused him of harassment and bullying at scale
after he and several others quit the organization earlier this week.
The charity cent to Balle was established back in two
thousand and six in honor of Harry's mum, Princess Diana,
to help children at young people in Southern Africa, particularly
those with HIV and AIDS, and the chair of Santa Bali,

(02:46):
Sophie Chandalka, says the Duke of Sussex initiated the whole
thing by the unleashing of the Sussex pr machine.

Speaker 5 (02:55):
Prince Harry authorized the release of a damaging piece of
news to the outside world without informing me, all my
country directors, all my executive director and can you imagine
what that attack has done for me, on me and
the five hundred and forty individuals in the center, body

(03:17):
organizations and their family. That is an example of harassment
and bullying at the scale.

Speaker 2 (03:23):
That is surfing Gendelka. It is ten out to.

Speaker 1 (03:25):
Five on your radio and online on iHeartRadio early edition
with Andrew Dickens and One Roof to make your Property
search simple, News Talks it'd be.

Speaker 2 (03:37):
Now, does anyone else find it ironic that just as
Chris Bishop is talking about how your property is your
property and you can do whatever you want with it
as long as you don't affect others, that another branch
of government is talking about taking property rights away. And
I'm talking about the supermarket sector where Nichola Willis is
trying to figure out how to break the power of
the duopoly. For Dance, Minister Nicola Willis is talking up

(03:59):
the breaking of the two big players. She is suggesting
that food Stuffs and Woolworths divest themselves of secondary brands
they have rightfully acquired through the years. Or she's saying
the wholesale and retail sections of the business could be separated. Meanwhile,
she's desperately hoping that the third player could step into
the game, despite the fact that if that was achievable,

(04:21):
it would have happened already now. Now, a lot of
what she's talking about effects are an awful lot of
people The supermarket model includes the big two, but also
each individual supermarket owner. Some of those owners own the properties,
others operate like a franchise holder. But all owners have
significant skin in the game, and they make a lot
of money, and they're not going to give up their
assets on the government say so. And if they want

(04:44):
to separate the smaller franchises, the supermarket chains have hoovered
up the four squares and the fresh choices and the supervalues.
Perhaps they shouldn't have let that happen in the first place.
And with all the retoric it seems the only real
tool that the government has is regular and now isn't
that already in place? The Grocery Commission. It needs more teeth.

(05:05):
It needs to monitor pricing actively, It needs to publish
recommended retail prices, and it needs to name and shame
the product lines where the supermarkets are taking the mickey.
Everything else is just nice words to make the impression
that someone somewhere is doing something. Twelve after five, I
just mentioned Jadie Vance and Greenland. Has anyone ever wondered

(05:28):
why Greenland is called Greenland? Because it's sure ain't green,
it's ice. It turns out there was a Norse explorer
called Eric the Red, who was exiled from Iceland and
explored the icy land to the northwest, and he found
a habitable area, and Eric settled there and he named
it Greenland. And he chose the name Greenland because he

(05:48):
thought it might sound appealing and it might encourage more
people to settle there. In reality, Greenland is not green
nor pleasant, but the name is stuck. And finally someone
is attracted to Greenland, and that's America. It's almost like
someone in the White House was looking at a map
and said, Hey, what's that big blob right there between
Russia and America. Gee, there's only two hundred thousand people there.

(06:11):
Let's have it.

Speaker 8 (06:13):
Now.

Speaker 2 (06:13):
It's fairly well known that under all the ice are
all the rare earth minerals needed these days for batteries
and evs and wind turbines, but so far they haven't
been exploited. Now there may be a reason for that.
Like it's not easy. The place is run by Denmark,
and no one complained about that either until now. But
then again, no one was raving about how good it
was either. But the Trump administration has come on and says,

(06:37):
you've got stuff we want. Come be subsumed by US. J. D.
Vans and his wife tour Greenland and spout a whole
lot of American imperialism. They don't talk partnerships, and they
questioned Greenland's sovereignty and self determination and history and sense
of self right out of the blue. No surprise when
you're seeing clips of people from Greenland, they're just a

(06:57):
bit surprised by the whole thing. People of Greenland only
really hear how useful they are to America and not
about how their future could be materially better. Now, all
of this could be a good idea, but the arrogance
of America makes it unpalatable.

Speaker 3 (07:15):
Andrew dickens, it's.

Speaker 2 (07:17):
Fourteen minutes after five, So the war against consultants is happening.
They want to double the amount of money they save,
but it turns out that most of that money they
could save comes from one sector, the health sector. So
here's a question, why did the health sector become so
dependent on consultants? And if we break it, will it

(07:37):
break the entire system. So a man who knows about
this sort of thing, as the former Health New Zealand chair,
that's Rob Campbell, and he joins me next it's news
Talk tib.

Speaker 1 (07:48):
Andrew Dickens on a fily edition with one roof to
make your property search simple, uth talg Zibby.

Speaker 2 (07:56):
According to you it is sixteen out to five. See
that the Greenland Prime Minister has just said that the
United States will not get the island, So good luck
with that. Now, we got news today that nearly half
of the government's contractors and consultancy spending cuts that we
were harping on about last week will be coming from
Health New Zealand alone. So that is about two hundred
and four million dollars spent on contractors, consultants and locals.

(08:19):
And it's raised the question why aren't we spending that
employing full time staff and why do we end out
spending so much money on consultants and health in the
first place. So former Health New Zealand chair Rob Campbell
joins in. Now, Hello Rob, So why do we have
so many contractors and consultants and Health?

Speaker 8 (08:38):
Well, there was a degree of what I call learned
helplessness in the management structures of health and of some
other parts of the public service which developed over the years.
Partly my people are harping on about the private sect
always being best about things, but also partly just a
crisis of confidence in the amount of money that was

(08:59):
coming in to health and the difficulty they were having
and finding answers to actually get a better outcome. So
over time and agree with what again learned helplessness develop.
It's most unfortunately, it's good to see and that it
is being reversed, if that's what this tells us. So
I have no doubt that there was a lot of

(09:21):
room to improve costs there and get those cost re
erected towards the frontline of health. But not all most caught,
and not all consultants are the saying you look consultants
and contractors together. That combines both big consultancy company charging
millions and millions of dollars to do stuff at the
public service should and is able to do itself with

(09:45):
individual contractors, particularly it in places like that where that
has simply become the way that people work. So I
don't think it's helpful to lump those numbers to get
way on. It's helpful to the politicians who are claiming
to have made savings, but whether it's really made the
right savings in the right places will only time will tell.

Speaker 2 (10:04):
Well, that's the thing with all this learned helplessness, and
what a beautiful phrase that is. Rob If we cut
all that out, can health survive?

Speaker 8 (10:13):
Look, it's only a very small part of health surviving
actually the cost part of it and the redirection of
those costs as part of it. But you know, you
could cut out a whole lot of costs that were
vital to health, and from outside in the reporting that
we get, it's really impossible to tell. I think it's
a mixture. I think some things that were clearly wasteful

(10:33):
have been chopped. I think that, particularly in the IT area,
some contractors and other advisors who have been cut are
not a particularly good idea at all. But you know,
you've got to start somewhere, and generally it's progress.

Speaker 2 (10:48):
And if we cut the learned helplessness, could that money
that we save actually end up being prioritized for full
time stuff? And so there was no overall net saving,
no overall net saving.

Speaker 8 (11:01):
And I think that's the right way to be thinking
about this. What we want is a bit of health service.
So what we're whether there's a saving or not, it's
not really the point. It's really whether the money is
being redirected more purposefully than it was in the past.
And you know, as I say, it's very hard to
tell from outside whether that is true or not. Some

(11:21):
of the results suggest that it's not. I'm concerned that
with a very narrow range of priorities being pushed on
to front AURA, it may well be that they're concentrating
on those specific targets rather than do overall improvement in
the machine. And that is the thing that we really need.

Speaker 3 (11:38):
Rob.

Speaker 2 (11:38):
Thank you for once again waking up early for us.
As Rob Campbell, former Chair of Health New Zealand. It
is now five twenty it's News Talk CB. The Warriors
scraped home twenty six twenty four. I'd say that because
I know I went to Bear before the end of
the match. They're thinking what's going to happen next? Well,
they've won three in a row. We'll talk about this
with Andrew Oldison in just a few moments time.

Speaker 1 (11:57):
The news you need this morning and the in depth
and elon this early edition with Andrew Dickens and one
roof Make your Property Search Simple.

Speaker 3 (12:05):
You've talk Siddy.

Speaker 2 (12:06):
It's Monday, it's five twenty two. That's time to talk support.
Andrew Ordison good morning to you.

Speaker 3 (12:10):
Greetings Andrew.

Speaker 2 (12:11):
So I'm wing to be obviously, we get up early
and the Warriors scrape home twenty six to twenty four.
Not pretty, not decisive, but three in a row. Look,
I actually tune I should have been in bed, but
I kept watching. Well that's for my job, is it
for my sons? But I really enjoyed it. Actually, I
thought it.

Speaker 9 (12:29):
Was gritty towards the end there, and they kept the
pressure on the Warriors and the final standards. Really, from
what I could see, I was a little bit dealt
with the try Liqua Helasima, who scored the decisive try
that took them to equal what level was at twenty
four all they eventually won twenty six twenty four. But
Helasima about fifteen minutes fifteen minutes, fifteen meters out from

(12:52):
the line, puts his finger to his lips and it
gives out thinking get the fall down, son, hit the
fall down, or at least get close to the sticks,
as Luke Metcalf pointed out afterwards. So I thought that
was yeah, he got there. That's the main thing. And
the two points are secure. Three in a row, three
in a row. But they've got outside back problems, haven't

(13:12):
they that's for sure. Yeah, so it's so Yeah, it's
difficulties in that regard, but none at least. I think
they'll take that against Wist Tigers.

Speaker 2 (13:19):
There was one game so good that I watched it
twice because there was a replay on Sunday and that's
Wina Pacifica destroying the Crusaders. And as I saw in
some of the headlines, if they play like that, there
they are a challenger.

Speaker 9 (13:30):
Oh this is what's so breaking and easy? And or
isn't it seeing Maana Pacifica deliver in that regard. I
mean we've seeing the Drawer do it in the past
as well, but that's the second one of the season,
Mowana and doing it against the Crusaders there at home,
that's a remarkable feat.

Speaker 2 (13:44):
I mean, forget what they did against the Chiefs last week.
Yeah yeah, yeah, they were yeah up there. They're very
good side.

Speaker 9 (13:50):
And this is I suppose where the likes of well
obviously tam among about Arlie Savia coming into the mix there.
I think the leadership that he would bring uh in.
I guess the mar et cetera, I think is outstanding.
And that's that's exactly what the competition needs.

Speaker 2 (14:05):
And we've got some sport happening as we speak. This
is starting one one minute after six. Ryan Fox fil
round to be precise.

Speaker 9 (14:12):
Yeah, he'll tee off at the Houston Open, and yeah,
there'll mean. The significance of this is that if Fox
is to win, I think, I mean win preferably, but
if he's I think maybe even in the top Maxtel
would take some mechinations, but he would get or go
up the rankings enough to get into the Master's field.
So it's significant that regard. Yeah, there's only been eight

(14:35):
New Zealanders to win on the PGA Tour over the
course of history, and Fox hoping to become a Knight.

Speaker 2 (14:40):
That's a fascinating for you.

Speaker 9 (14:42):
Bob Charles has won six times, but there's there's no
seven others as well.

Speaker 2 (14:46):
Yeah, yeah, good stuff. I sport and with you all
morning long. We'll keep it up to date with Ryan
Fox as he plays.

Speaker 1 (14:52):
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Speaker 3 (14:57):
It Me.

Speaker 2 (15:00):
The Bears five twenty seven. Armandre Dickins in for Ryan Bridge.
While I spent all weekend waiting for more details about
the death by dog in the Bay of Plenty, and
it's a story that really upsets me. It upset me greatly.
We've heard about the victim. Apparently he was a cheeky,
cheery four year old kid. His family say he had
a little mischief in his smile, a little wild in
his heart, and a heart full of cuteness. We heard

(15:24):
a statement from them that something had happened, suggesting this
was in Mildy circles. For a while I thought, actually
it was an instant on the Mariah, but it was not.
We heard another person was injured, and presumably they were
trying to save the boy. On social media, I saw
claims that the boy may have rased the dogs, but
that's not the point. That's victim blaming.

Speaker 8 (15:41):
Now.

Speaker 2 (15:41):
The thing that always gets me about these stories is
that dogs should not kill people, But four people have
died at the teeth of dogs in the past five years.
Dogs are man's best friend. Dogs are a useful tool,
but dogs never kill humans the way robots are supposed
to be programmed to never humans. Even the dogs whose

(16:02):
jobs are to be security for humans should not kill
other humans, even if the humans are bad. The only
dogs who kill humans are dogs who are owned or
controlled by humans who do not know how to control
their dogs. And if they have dogs who are not controllable,
they are humans who don't realize the threat those dogs pose.

(16:22):
Therefore they should not be in charge of dogs. And
when these things happen, the concerns start raising rules and
regulations that the bad owners ignore, and the only thing
they do is irritate and criminalize the good owners. Any
dogs that kill that can be traced to an owner
to me says that that owner must face a custodi

(16:43):
or sentence. They're just as guilty as the dog because
your weapon just killed an innocent child. And I don't
know how you live with yourself, and don't you dare
defend the dog? Figs Rogers is well said, what a
horrific thing to happen, the prolonged suffering that little boy
must have gone through. I think I heard on the
news that the dogs had been picked up. Yes they have.
Investigations are underway, Rogers says. Unfortunately we hear many of

(17:06):
these instances. Dogs and low associo economic areas aren't registered
and the owners or owner won't come forward. Hopefully them
I won't close ranks and go silent on the ownership issue,
and I'm with you on that.

Speaker 3 (17:18):
Roger.

Speaker 2 (17:19):
Now on the way, I've got a warning for you.
If you're driving around Auckland, you might get a speeding
ticket that could be avoidable and I'll take you to Symphony.
This is in the edition on News Talks.

Speaker 3 (17:29):
Here be all the things that you do.

Speaker 1 (17:44):
The first word on the News of the Day early
edition with Andrew Dickens and one roof make your property
search and simple use talk Sippy.

Speaker 2 (17:54):
I love.

Speaker 10 (18:07):
Welcomebry to you.

Speaker 2 (18:07):
Welcome to your Monday morning. I'm Andrew Dickinson for Ryan Bridge.
If you're driving to work in Orkland, I have a
word of warning for you. There are unmarked traffic police
cars monitoring Hopetown Bridge in Auckland. Now, if you don't
know Hopetown Bridge, it's a beautiful little bridge crosses over
Spaghetti Junction. It's a great little link from the city
center to Ponserb. It's high quality. It's a lovely road

(18:29):
to sweep up and over. As you escape the CBD
you can see the bridge and all that sort of thing.
It's a lovely piece of road. It may surprise you
to learn that it has a thirty kilometer and hour
speed limit because they were worried that the speeding cars
were threatening the cyclists. Now, presumably this is one of
those roads that Simeon Brown once liberated from the lower
speed limit. He put a deadline on all of this

(18:51):
of July the first, But at the moment right now,
it's being very actively policed. Now does anyone else think
this is kosher?

Speaker 5 (19:00):
Me?

Speaker 2 (19:01):
The replacement of the speed signs have fallen on the
country's councils and regional authorities and it's not cheap. Therefore
they're not in a hurry. Gisbane District Council is challenging
the move legally because they don't want to pay the
three hundred thousand dollars which is the money it will
cost to make it happen. But surely, look, why do
I think it's not kosher? Surely it is cynical in
the extreme to be clipping the ticket on lower speed

(19:22):
limits when their future is in fact limited. So look Sibia,
And if you're not too busy right now, mate, and
I know it's not your job anymore, but could you
ask someone to have a word because clipping that ticket
is not fair and it's not nice. Now a very
big event in Auckland that apparently was absolutely brilliant and
so brilliant. I didn't go, and I wish I did.

(19:43):
I had the fomo and now I'm really getting a
big time. Forty thousand people packed into Auckland Domain over
the weekend for synthon Ye. So there was an orchestra,
and there was DJs, and there was dance beats. But
there were also sets from Dick Johnson, Lady six very
fine female vocalists and the dudes who sang bliss and
everybody loves a better bliss. When you remote forty thousand friends,

(20:04):
you've got a drink in the hand.

Speaker 7 (20:05):
Now.

Speaker 2 (20:05):
My producer Kinsey was there and here is a snippets
of what Summer Symphony sounded like. Everybody put your hands
in the air like you just don't care.

Speaker 3 (20:23):
Got the meat.

Speaker 2 (20:27):
So that's That's a fellow who apparently is quite big.
I've never heard of him before. His name is DJ Cyril.
DJ Cyril, eh, and well done to the organizers of
symphony and the council, because this has turned into an
Auckland classic. It is twenty one to six and it's
here he goes. It's it is time to go around

(20:48):
the country. Calum Proctor, good morning to you.

Speaker 8 (20:51):
Morning, Andrew.

Speaker 2 (20:52):
So we had a fatal weekend plane crash in Otago.

Speaker 11 (20:57):
He one person killed, another critically injured when their aircraft
and counted trouble on Saturday afternoon near Lake Harweir. This
is by Wanaka. The peer were taking part in the
annual autom fly in for the Aircraft Owners and Pilots Association.
This was based out of Imaama Airfield. There were dozens
of other aviators there. The presidents of this association, Sue Cronfell,

(21:19):
She's told us, look, they're all shocked and deeply upset.
She says they can't speculate at what went wrong. That's
for police and aviation authorities to investigate and they will
assist in any way requested. How's Dunedin's weather mostly cloudy today,
rained possible this evening light wednes and eighteen today.

Speaker 2 (21:37):
Clais here were joining me from chroastiach Heala Claire, good morning.
I remember going to chrast Huch at one point and
I'm just driving around the place and I'm seeing the cathedral.
But then I went round the corner and I saw
another cathedral and I went, oh, my goodness, it's even
more beautiful.

Speaker 12 (21:49):
It is even more beautiful. Well it was, it was
even more beautiful. Andrew, this is the one on Barbados Street,
the Catholic Cathedral, and it was stunning. It was damage
actually in the first quake in twenty ten and was
closed since then. It did get demolished finally actually that
late twenty twenty. I was surprised how long that took
when I looked up the date. But we've been keeping

(22:10):
an eye on the progress of that. Last year we
had it confirmed that they planned to build on the
same site, so back on Barbados Street, and would retain
the same name, the Blessed Sacrament. Now, the Catholic Church
has revealed a number of New Zealand architects have been
invited to respond to a draft design brief. So the Bishop,
Michael Geeland believes those who have been contacted they've been

(22:31):
hand picked, have the experience and capacity required for a
project of the scale.

Speaker 5 (22:37):
He says.

Speaker 12 (22:37):
The chosen architect will then help to create the final
design brief, share that aspiration to build a cathedral which
they hope will be a beacon of hope for christ Church.

Speaker 2 (22:46):
THEIG shoes to fill because that was a beautiful building.
How's your weather?

Speaker 13 (22:51):
Cloudy today?

Speaker 12 (22:52):
Some fine spells this afternoon, a northeasterlies and a high
of eighteen to Wellington.

Speaker 2 (22:56):
We go, Max told, good morning, good morning. Is this
good news or is this bad news? Apparently we're being
undercharged at restaurants. Yeah.

Speaker 10 (23:04):
We interviewed a high end restaurant owner names Asher Boot.
He closed his Thorndon restaurant Daisies over the weekend. He,
like a lot of others in the capitol, say it's
harder now more than ever to do business in Wellington,
cost of living, public sector cuts, endless road works, even
the lasting effects of the pandemic, he says. Anyway, he

(23:25):
said something that was quite curious to us, that there's
something of an inconvenient truth in hospitality that restaurants should
be operating at a much higher price point than they
currently do, i e. We're paying too little to eat out.
He believes it's a luxury we don't appreciate when we
order a thirty dollar pizza or thirty five dollars fetichinie.

Speaker 3 (23:45):
They should be more expensive.

Speaker 10 (23:47):
He owns another place in Thornton called Hillside that's much
more successful. And that's the approach, he says, they take.
It's unashamedly pricey, and it's been a success because if
it's good, people will come.

Speaker 2 (23:58):
If it's good, people will come. That's a truism. How's
your weather?

Speaker 10 (24:03):
The odd shower of Partley Cloudier high of twenty central.

Speaker 2 (24:06):
And we have never watch a mine who joining us
from Walkanhalleren even good morning. So there's beefed up security
around Wayne Brown.

Speaker 4 (24:12):
That's right around Brown's inner City apartment actually, So this
follows a recent onslaught in online threats. Now the vitriolic
social media comments directed at Auckland's mare they seem to
spite following the final official speedway race, and that was
at Western Springs nine days ago. So Brown says he's
received comments referring to his family telling him to be careful.

(24:34):
And this is after he posted that video explaining Auckland
Council's decision to move that event to Miika Ducker Park.
A person has also shown up at his door when
his wife was home, so I know it's terrible. So
the Council's now set up a security car outside Brown's
residence and CCTV camera is set to be installed this
week as well.

Speaker 2 (24:52):
Okay, well, Wayne really took them one. I thought Wayne
was asking for trouble when he said only twelve thousand
people went to Speedway all year, when in fact that
was what they got each meeting. And you don't upset
a speedway guy because yeah they're big. Now, how's Orkin's weather?

Speaker 5 (25:06):
Fine?

Speaker 4 (25:06):
Apart from areas of morning cloud and high today's twenty four?

Speaker 2 (25:09):
Oh no, thank you. Now it is sixteen minutes to
six and still to come. We'll talk to Ernie Newman
about Nicola Willis's attempts, the latest attempt to break up
the supermarket to wappoli and get better prices. Basically, that's
the end of it. We'll talk to him very shortly.
But next we know that AI is coming. We know
that AI is taking jobs. Gavin Gray has a story
about how AI is taking the jobs of models and

(25:32):
that's next on News.

Speaker 1 (25:33):
Talks, a b international correspondence with Ends and Eye Insurance.
Peace of mind for New Zealand business.

Speaker 2 (25:41):
Yes, this go to the UK. Gavin Gray joined us. Hello,
Gavin either angry so Prince Harry accused of bullying by
the boss of the charity he set up yes.

Speaker 13 (25:52):
I think there'll be one or two people here. Rather
amused by these allegations with the old phrase what goes
around comes around. After of course all Prince Harry's allegations
about what happened with him and the royal family. So
he set up a charity called Center Ballet back in
two thousand and six Andrew. This was to help children
and young people in Southern Africa, particularly those affected by

(26:13):
HIV and AIDS. But last week he resigned and so
it seemed almost all the board why well, a new
chairperson called Dr Sophie Chandalca. She is a lawyer from Zimbabwe,
has obviously not been seeing eye to eye with the
board about the direction of the charity and where they
were going to raise funds. Harry resigned and now a

(26:35):
very explosive weekend television interview with doctor Chandalka and the
British TV company Sky has really set the catamounder pigeons.
She has accused him of harassment and bullying. She said
when he was in the room, people were afraid to
speak their truth and to give their opinion. And she
said that at one point she was said to the

(26:55):
Duke of Sussex initiated the campaign by what she called
the unleashing of the US six PR machine. She says
he's the number one reason why this Center Ballet charity
might have failed, and also is accusing him of and
Meghan accusing Prince Harry of trying to put out or
forcing her to put out a message of support for

(27:16):
Meghan when she unexpectedly attended one of the events. So
as you can imagine, plenty of people very keen to
hear more, although I'm sure no response yet from Prince Harry.

Speaker 2 (27:26):
Now to the fashion label out of Sweden called h
and Em, we have it here as well, and it
appears they're using AI to take the jobs off models.

Speaker 13 (27:35):
Yes, although they're saying well, actually we are going to
pay them as though they were doing the modeling job.
So it's a Swedish fashion giant. It also operates a
number of others ARCT caused Monkey other stores, and says
the four thousand stores worldwide across seventy five markets regularly
use humans as their models, but they are now to

(27:58):
start using AI art official intelligence doppelgangers in social media
posts and marketing. In other words, they won't need the models. However,
they said they are going to give only do it
with the permission of the models and come into a
contract about exactly how they can be used. Now. H
and M says the models will retain the rights over

(28:19):
their digital replicas, and their use by the company and
other brands for purposes like marketing, etc. Will have to
be agreed by those models. And you think, well, all
the models will be upset. Not a bit of it.
Some have said that's going to be good because it
means they won't have to travel halfway around the world
for a photo shoot. But Plenty is saying this is
a one way street.

Speaker 3 (28:38):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (28:38):
Well, I'm worried about the clothes. I don't want my clothes.
I want to see real clothes. I don't want to
see AI clothes because they're not real. But I thank
you so much. Gavin Gray from the UK It is
ten to six. So what's this an announcement of an announcement.

Speaker 3 (28:51):
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (28:53):
This is of course Nicola willis wanting to do something
about supermarkets, so so he's looking at a third entrant
into the growth sected to break up the duopoly. But
there's no third entrant in say it in a Cost
of Fortune she's also suggested maybe breaking up the groups,
and she's also suggested separating retail from wholesale, so she
set up a six week process requesting information from the

(29:14):
sector and grocery policy expert. Ernie Newman joins it, good
morning to you again, Ernie. Gooday, Ryan had stickens here.
I'm afraid, oh sorry, I'll beg your pardon. I don't
know Ryan's back in a couple of weeks. Don't you
worry about that? Is this whole thing words or will
something happen?

Speaker 14 (29:30):
Well, I've had to eat my words to be quieulous,
because I was a bit skeptical going into the announcement yesterday.
But Ean and Nichola Willis has come through as a
minister on a mission, and I've been enormously impressed with
her language and her determination and the homework she's done.
You know, she's almost taking her political career on doing
something here. So I'm feeling a lot more optimistic than

(29:52):
I was twenty four hours ago.

Speaker 2 (29:54):
But come on, honestly, if she tries to break up
a supermarket chain, if she tries to take the fresh
values off and make them an other hands, the supermarkets
who have got a lot of thing. They're going to
fight this tooth and nail.

Speaker 14 (30:06):
Of course they will, just like Telecom did back in
the day. But you know Telecom. The Telecom breakup happened
largely because there was a lot of public anger about
their their their bullying behavior, and there was political agreement
that something needed to be done. But I think we're
on the trek here for you know, pretty much political

(30:27):
agreement to the main parties at least that this has
to be fixed and has to be fixed thoroughly.

Speaker 2 (30:34):
Could so Also, the hunt for a third entrant? Is
that desperate because really it's going to cost so much money.
There's no property there. They're going to buy the property,
they're going to buy the chain for supply. Is that
a reality?

Speaker 14 (30:49):
Well, I think it is not in not in the
present situation, because you know, you've got a you've got
a marketplace here that is populated by bullies and nobody
has done anything up until now. A really high them
to account. But I think now that we have the
determination from no one less than the Finance Minister and
her party to deal with this situation. You know, to

(31:10):
start up in New Zealand is not that huge with
a lot of big country, and I think if if
international operators can see, you know, a fear deal and
an even playing fuel when they get here. The amount
of money involved is not great. It also doesn't have
to be the international you know, we do have the
potential for something local.

Speaker 2 (31:30):
Absolutely okay, Ernie, I thank you so much that we've
got six weeks to get more information and we'll find
out more. And it is now seven to six now
text through good morning with you. On the road cops
they're out in force while crime could be stopped. They
had two cop cars in a van with camera a
week before last between Constellation Drive and Silverdale. At the
same time my son got robbed just a few hundred

(31:50):
meters away. And where is that right? When we know
those limits are going down, are going up. It is
seven to six New Storks.

Speaker 1 (31:58):
B get ahead of the headlines on early edition Andrew
Dickens and One Room Make your Property Search Simple, News Talks.

Speaker 2 (32:08):
It'd be five to six. The latest ASP forecasts are
out and they're calling their recovery tippid. In fact, they're
using juicy a language than that. They've described our recovery
as a prius and not a ferrari. I'm sorry prius owners.
The good news is Reserve Bank is no longer cracking
the whip with interest rates. The bad news is just
about everything else in the world. And of course this is
a big week. Wednesday, Trump will announce tariffs and he's

(32:30):
already well today he's talking about a fifty percent tarithon oil.
That's going to affect us. So good luck and set
your Prius to sport mode. And Mike Hosking Joints, we
come wanting to.

Speaker 15 (32:37):
An important thing about that, as they named the ferraris
of four to fifty eight and so that was the
pre turbo. So not only is it a ferrari, it's
one of the best ferraris.

Speaker 2 (32:47):
Wouldn't it be nice to have a ferrari like that,
wouldn't it be nice? Anyway, Prime Minister's decided to change
days and he doesn't like Tuesdays and he's decided that
Monday's a bitter day but Mondays is his day for traveling.

Speaker 3 (32:59):
And well, first.

Speaker 15 (33:01):
Things he said that, he said last week he said,
tell you what I like to do is we'll change
it to Monday because then I can come in more
so when Parliament's not on. Yeah, exactly. So that's why
he's not coming in today. So he's changed the day
and we go fair enough so he can come in
more and he's not coming him coming in.

Speaker 2 (33:17):
Hopefully he doesn't make it complete meal of at this time.

Speaker 8 (33:19):
No, we won't.

Speaker 15 (33:19):
But the fairy day today, which is interesting really yeah,
well think about it. But Peter said by the end
of March. It is indeed the end of March, so
today and Cabinet day, so presumably we'll find out what
sort of fairies they are, who were buying them from when,
when they're arriving, are they rail enabled, what war, what
sort of exactly, what sort of infrastructure is required with proofing?

(33:41):
Will it be less than four billion dollars, which presumably
it will, so we'll stand by for that today, and
of course we'll talk about the supermarkets.

Speaker 2 (33:46):
It's very good stuff. And I thank you and my
thanks to producer Kenzie who went to symphony for me,
and I think we should have swapt positions. I'm Andrew Dickinson.
I'm back again next week. Sorry next week, I am actually,
but I'm also back tomorrow. We have a great and
productive day in your Prius's.

Speaker 3 (34:08):
Good for more from early edition with Ryan Bridge.

Speaker 1 (34:20):
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