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March 31, 2025 • 34 mins

On the Early Edition with Full Show Podcast Tuesday 1st April 2025, Todd Valster General Secretary of the Rail and Maritime Union shares his thoughts on the Government's plan for the new Cook Strait ferries.  

The Commerce Commission says Auckland Airport's been over-charging airlines by $190 million since 2023, NZ Airports Chief Executive Billie Moore shares his thoughts.  

The Government's announced changes to workplace health and safety Mike Cosman, Chair at the NZ Institute of Safety Management tells Andrew Dickens what this will mean for businesses. 

Australia Correspondent Donna Demaio shares the latest on the Australian Prime Minister responding to a Chinese research ship travelling in Australian waters.  

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Speaker 1 (00:02):
The issues is the interviews and the insight. Andrew Dickens
on early edition with one roof make your property search simple,
new stalks.

Speaker 2 (00:11):
It'd be.

Speaker 3 (00:13):
Hey, good morning to you. Welcome to your Tuesday. I'm
Andrew Dickens. Coming up over the next sixty minutes. There
are changes to the Health and Safety Act. What will
that mean for you and your business? Will have that
story for you in five Welcome. The airport has sharpened
its pencils on its charges to airlines, So what will
that mean for airfares? And does this mean the Comcom's working?
We'll have that story. In ten we'll discuss the curious

(00:36):
case of Benjamin Doyle and Winston Rackins. He has a
fairy deal? Is it a good one? We'll look about
just before six, we'll have correspondence from right around New Zealand.
We'll have Donald Demayo out of Australia. We'll have news
as it breaks and you can have your say, Babe
sending me a text and the text number is ninety
two ninety two or small charge applies. Good morning, It's
step it up to five.

Speaker 2 (00:58):
The agenda.

Speaker 3 (01:03):
Yes, good morning. It is the first of April. It
is April Fall's Day and I'm not intending to play
any jokes. But first I will go to France with
the leader of the far right National Party, Madeline la Pen,
has been sentenced to jail and bann from running in
the next presidential election in twenty twenty seven. She's been
found guilty for embezzling European funds to finance her party.

(01:28):
La Penn left the courtroom before the Judge of finished
handing down details of the sentence, and she's already said
she'll appeal.

Speaker 4 (01:35):
Given the fact that our courts are overloaded, the calendar
of the courts might well be between eighteen months and
two years, which gets us extremely close to our presidential election.
And again the judgment is so harsh that it's doubtful

(01:55):
that indeed the next court, if she will, could wipe boult.

Speaker 3 (02:02):
Now to the earthquake at me and Mar, where the
death toll has surpassed two thousand people four thousand people injured,
many still unaccounted for. That death toll will go up.
The UN has made an urgent appeal for eight million
dollars as eight groups one of a worstling humanitarian crisis,
with hospitals damaged and overwhelmed. Information out of me and
Mah has been limited because of the junta, and the

(02:25):
death toll is expected to be much worse than's being reported.

Speaker 5 (02:29):
It took three days to have that relatively small junkin numbers. Now,
the US Geological Survey said, if you look at the
size of the earthquake seven point seven magnitude this was,
and the areas that were affected, they said, perhaps a
death toll of something in the region of ten thousands
could be expected from something like this.

Speaker 3 (02:48):
And Russia. Russia says work is ongoing with the United
States on a Ukraine's cease file liberties fire deal after
Donald Trump said he was very angry and I quote
pissed off with Vladimir Putin. Trump's sharp change in tone
was in response to Putin suggesting an interim government in
Ukraine under the support of the UN could replace Zelenski.

(03:08):
So Donald threatens secondary tariffs on all oil coming out
of Australia if he thinks Moscow is to blame for
failing to reach a ceasefire. It's a psychological deadline. If
I think that down bigger, so long, I will not
be happy about it.

Speaker 2 (03:24):
Do you think they are I don't know.

Speaker 6 (03:25):
I don't think so.

Speaker 2 (03:27):
I think he wants to make a deal.

Speaker 3 (03:29):
As Donald Trump being interviewed at long range. It is
now ten after five.

Speaker 2 (03:33):
On your radio and online on iHeartRadio earlier edition with
Andrew Dickens and one roof Make Your Property Search Simple,
You Talk said be So.

Speaker 3 (03:44):
Winston's great rail solution is now revealed, well some of
it anyway. It seems just like Kiwi Rail's I Rex,
but cheaper. The boats are still big, bigger than we've
got right now, but smaller than the ones that were
ordered before. They are rail enabled, but the port side
infrastructure in the work there is a lot more reasonable

(04:06):
and that's always been the thing. The original boats were
actually a good deal, but the kicker always came port side.
Kiwi Rail was under the belief, in fact, this is
what they were told back in the day by the government,
including Winston Peters, that this project had to be future proofed.
This had to be a fifty to one hundred year thing.
This was something that had to last, which is a

(04:27):
type of thinking that New Zealand doesn't too often. So
the ferrari in this whole deal was not the boats,
it was the ports. Now Winston says, Picton needs a
big revent that's going to cost but the earthquake Prome
Wellington Port just needs a touch up. It's thought, by
the way, that the new fairies will have less capacity

(04:48):
in an ideal world. All of this is not ideal,
but it is, as Winston says, pragmatic.

Speaker 4 (04:55):
Now.

Speaker 3 (04:55):
I know people involved with the original Irex deal on
the government side, and when this first happened, I talk
to them and they said that Kiwi Rail should not
come to their government expecting an open checkbook. They were
supporters of rail and all that sort of thing, but
you just can't come thinking you can just you know,
fleece billions out of the government just like that. And
he was right. The original Irex deal had some good

(05:18):
parts to it and it is the one that we
should have aspired to. But as the government keeps telling us,
now is not the right time for aspirational long term planning.
We just can't afford it. But if not now, when
will we do anything right first time? So this deal
looks like a saving short term, but the question will
always be for another generation will we end up paying more?

(05:38):
Long term? The upshot is that we do have fairies
coming by twenty twenty nine, and that's when our current
fairies have end their life, So the timing is tight.
The new fairies are file, they's likely to think than
the ones we already have. And you know that's about it.
In this story, we're right back to where we were
thirty years ago.

Speaker 2 (05:57):
Andrew Dickens of After Five.

Speaker 3 (06:00):
I've been watching the gangs and the drugs and a
few stories that are around over the last week, and
with our war on gangs and drugs, how concerning is
it that a drug kingpin who's behind bars has just
been given a life sentence. This high ranking gang member
was given the sentence last week after masterminding a two
hundred kilogram meth deal while in jail. While behind bars,

(06:24):
I thought the point of incarceration was to stop people
committed crimes. Meanwhile, this week, the vice president of the
Tribesmen is in court and we're hearing tales of his
alleged lavish lifestyle financed by his alleged sale of methamphetamine.
The drug which we also heard in the last week
doubled in use last year, and that means it's obviously

(06:46):
doubled in profit, if not more. And all of these
stories all shows the power and the organization and the
brains of gangs when it comes to organized crime. And
it's yet another sign that patch bands are just pottering
around the edges of the gang problem. We've got to
go a lot deeper to cut out this cancer and
we have a very long and hard road to get

(07:06):
on top of gangs in this country.

Speaker 2 (07:09):
Andrew Dickens forteen.

Speaker 3 (07:10):
Minutes after five. Okay, so Brook van Velden's got stuck
into the health and safety rules. We also hear we're
going to get a road cone hotline yesterday. So what
does this mean for you? What changes will happen. We're
going to talk about this in a moment with a
guy who is the chairman of the New Zealand Institute
of Safety Management. It's forteen after five on Newstalk MB.

Speaker 1 (07:32):
Andrew Dickens al Aveli edition with one roof Make your
Property Search Simple, Youth talg zibby.

Speaker 3 (07:39):
Yes it is five sixteen. First textan says Andrew, what
about the green MP? Are you afraid? No, I'm not patience,
I'm going to talk about this at five twenty five.
Of course I'm not afraid. You noble keyboard, worry are you.
I'm going to talk about this at five twenty five,
so that's when more audience is around to hear more
about it. So there you go. At sixteen after five.
Workplace health and safety is getting a bit of a facelift.

(08:00):
The government's announced less tick box health than safety activities
and there's no longer a need to report minor events.
So the New Zealand Institute of Safety Management chair Mike
Cosmon is with me, Hello, Mike morning Andrew. So are
there any risks in this for our health and safety
in the workplace?

Speaker 2 (08:17):
Yeah?

Speaker 7 (08:17):
I think there are, But more importantly, I think there's
missed opportunities. So a number of the things that the
government has sort of painted as problems I think are
largely imaginary. So there's no requirement to report minor injuries
at the moment, there's no requirement to have signs up
saying hold the handrail or hot water on the hot
water tap. So I think it's created a bit of
a myth, and then it's congratulating itself for cracking that myth,

(08:43):
whereas it's not really addressing the things that are killing
and injuring workers all around the country. You know every day.

Speaker 3 (08:50):
So you seid they missed an opportunity? What are they
missed other than what would you sayest?

Speaker 2 (08:56):
Well, so the.

Speaker 7 (08:57):
Key thing is that we've got industries that we know
are really have this. So this morning I'm going off
to visit some forestry workers. There's nothing in here that's
going to improve safety in the forestry industry or with
any of our other high risk sectors like agriculture and
construction and manufacturing. In fact, it's going to divert work
face attention away from those priorities to manning the Cones hotline.

(09:20):
So all the talk is about reducing the cost of compliance,
but there's nothing in here which actually says how we're
going to improve worker safety, which is really at the
heart of what I believe we should be focusing on.

Speaker 3 (09:33):
Okay, well, I have an example because but then Velden
gave this example in her press release yesterday, and you see,
for example, a small clothing shop would still need to
provide first aid, emergency plans and basic facilities such as
suitable lighting, but wouldn't have to need to do a
psychosocial ham policy. Was he correct? Is that a good example?

Speaker 7 (09:51):
They don't have to do one anyway unless they are
particularly at risk. So if you were a corner dairy
or a jewelry that's been robbed three times, and your
staff are at risk of both physical and mental harm
because of something the other rises through work, then you
wouldn't just need a policy, but you'd actually need to
support your workers who might be afraid to come to

(10:13):
work and concerned about the risks. So no, I think
that again is a misnomer. There's very little that actually
is required to be written down in law, but often
people get this idea that they have to do it
because of this mythical threat from Work Safe or whatever.
So I think fundamentally the problem is that we lack current,

(10:35):
easy to access, up to date guidance that tells people
in simple terms what it is they do need to
do and what they don't need to do, and that's
been recognized for over ten years that there's a massive gap.
Work Safe themselves say that they've got hundreds of pieces
of guidance that are out of date and they don't
have the resources to fix them.

Speaker 3 (10:55):
Mike, I thank you so much for your expertise. Today
there's my Cosmin from the Institute of Safety Management. Certainly
though gets a good headline for the government. Five nineteen now,
the Commerce Commission sent a report out about the charges
at Aucland Airport and said that they've been overcharging. They
said there was nothing dodgy about it, but at the

(11:16):
same time certainly excessive and wouldn't you know it, the
airport worked on it over the weekend and suddenly the
charges have been reduced. We'll talk about this story next
here on News Talks AB.

Speaker 1 (11:24):
The News you Need this morning and the in Depth
Analysis early edition with Andrew Dickens and one roof Make
your Property Search Simple News Talk said.

Speaker 3 (11:34):
B five twenty two, The Commerce Commission says Orcand Airport's
been overcharging airlines by one hundred and ninety million dollars
since twenty twenty three. So where did the airlines get
that money from your airfares? This year's price increase won't
be as big as initially planned. After the findings were released,
New Zealand Airport's Association Chief executive Billy Moore is with me.
Good morning to you, Billy, Good morning. So there's a

(11:56):
lot of money one hundred and ninety million dollars. How
did no one notice?

Speaker 4 (12:01):
Oh?

Speaker 8 (12:01):
Look, this is part of the process, and I know
it sounds a bit boring, but it's true. So the
Commus Commission has come out with its judgment and aukind
the airport has responded immediately to lower its prices for
the rest of the period. And so what that means
is that there won't be overcharging for the period because
they'll be compensating for that one hundred and ninety million

(12:24):
for the rest of that pricing period, so it will
eat it out. It wasn't unexpected in terms of the
feedback from the Commission because of how long these processes take.
The Auckland the airport team had had to use a
previous version of what we call the Commerce Commission's input methodologies,
which helps them figure out what the right rate of

(12:44):
return for their own viases should be. That meant that
the Commission was bound to have some feedback on that.
They've given that feedback and the airport has made those adjustments.
So that's what the system is.

Speaker 3 (12:55):
Supposed to do exactly. But you know, the airport received
the final report from the ComCom on Friday. They worked
out for the weekend. They revised its costs downs just
like that on a Monday. So does that suggest they
already knew they were guilding the lily.

Speaker 9 (13:08):
Well.

Speaker 8 (13:09):
The draft report have been released in July last year
already kind of indicating the Commerce Commission's direction of travel,
so that gave a bit of an indication quite well
in advance. Then there was a cross submission process. Again
it sounds a bit boring, but that means that everyone,
including the airlines and the airports, provide more feedback to

(13:30):
the Commission to make sure that they're coming out with
the right call so that they were ready to respond.
But it's not unexpected that.

Speaker 3 (13:38):
They would be okay. But you know, the perception therefore
is that the airport's trying to get away with as
much as it can.

Speaker 8 (13:46):
Look I disagree when you might expect. Look, fundamentally, we'd
have to build infrastructure in this country, and there's two
things that we need to get there done which the
airport has been focusing on. The few is a stable
regulation for investors to see that the system is stable
and working. And second is I fear rate of return.

(14:07):
Otherwise the airport can't raise the funds for this essential infrastructure.
So part of this process is about working with the
Commission and providing all the information on the table transparently
so that we can get to that what is that
right rate of return for a long running investment like
an airport.

Speaker 3 (14:23):
So you would say you would say that even though
they overcharge U by one hundred and ninety million dollars
in twenty twenty three, this is proof that the regulatory
system is actually working acceptably.

Speaker 8 (14:33):
That's right, because the Commission's come out with this a
judgment and the airport has adjusted. That's how the system's
supposed to work. Yes, they went too high, but they
have made the adjustment and that will all smooth out.

Speaker 3 (14:45):
For early Superior Billy, I thank you so much for
you for your time today. News Storks be I mean,
you know you want them to get it right. You
want it to be absolutely transparent, and you don't need
to have a report and then wait six months for
them to change, do you. Five to twenty five new
Storks at B The Curious Case of Benjamin Doyle.

Speaker 1 (15:02):
Next the Early Edition Full show podcast on iHeartRadio powered
by News Talk zipp z B.

Speaker 3 (15:10):
It is our five twenty seven. I'm Andrew Dickens. The
Ferrari surrounding Benjamin Doyle. The Green MP is something that's
been swelling around social media over the weekend as a
story that Annie O'Brien uncovered weeks ago. When St. Peter's
has now brought it to the attention of the country,
it's something we have to talk about. When Simpeter's immediately
said it was the fault of the media for not

(15:30):
exposing this earlier. No, this story is about Benjamin Doyle
and the Greens. Now. Doyle is a gay Green MP
who uses the pronouns of they and them. Before he
was an MP, he posted using gay terminology that referred
to sexual activity. It's vulgar language. But by the time
he was an MP, he had deleted those posts, knowing

(15:52):
that it could be used against him, sorry or them,
pardon against them, But nothing on the websdays, and someone
has saved them as ammunition, ammunition that Winston Peters has
now fired in public now. I don't know when Benjamin
Doyle decided that he wanted to embark on a life
in public governance and in the public eye, but his
casual use of social media back then is something he

(16:13):
should have known about. It will be the same for
any hetero politician. We don't need to know anything about
your sexual life when you're in public office. That sort
of stuff is low lying fruit that politicians like Winston
Peters sees on the fact that it's resulted in hate
speech on Doyle as bad. But was Doyle so naive
that he they never thought about this before he they

(16:35):
came to the attention of the antiwoke world. Goodness me,
it is a slutary lesson to all on public life.
If you have nothing to hide, you have nothing to fear.
Benjamin Doyle has plenty to hide. It's a lesson to
the Green Party that they're mentoring of their candidates, their
choosing of their candidates, and their vetting of the candidates
leaves a lot to be desired. And then yesterday's defense

(16:57):
of Doyle's language alienates a lot of people or who
may otherwise vote for them. I mean, Benjamin's obviously got
to go, doesn't he. And this is also a reminder
to everybody that Winston Peters will say anything if he
thinks there's enough votes in it to get him over
the five percent threshold. Ye really. Now I'm going to
talk about the April first because it is April the first.

(17:19):
There's a lot about April the first that are not
the Fool's Day, going to talk about rope cones.

Speaker 6 (17:23):
I'm going to talk.

Speaker 3 (17:23):
About Marie La Penn. I'm going to talk to Donna Tamayo.
A whole heap more to come in the next half hour.
This is Early Edition. I'm Andrew Dickens News Talks.

Speaker 9 (17:32):
It be.

Speaker 1 (17:43):
The first word on the News of the Day. Early
Edition with Andrew Dickens and One Room, Make Your Property
Search and Simple.

Speaker 2 (17:51):
You talk sippy, don't you?

Speaker 10 (17:55):
America wants your favorite told American.

Speaker 2 (18:02):
Service.

Speaker 3 (18:03):
Very deal? Is it a good one? What do we
know about it? We're going to talk about this sis
before six you can text me. Ninety two ninety two
Clive has written in saying that Benjamin Doyle must go
under the woke tyranny. Many have lost their positions for
past statements going back to school years, and this is true.
How many people have we seen where the past comes
back to bite them? This is a past coming back

(18:24):
to bite Benjamin and Clive says we don't need Chloe
and her perverts and government that yes, they've defended the
entire thing. Someone says, what a take? Did you just
accuse Winston of running this? No, I said Winston brought
it up in public, and that's a good thing, of
course it is. It is a discussion thing, and that's
the way it should work. Now, welcome to April the First.

(18:47):
I've long abandoned any desire to play a prank on
the radio. God I hate April Falls pranks on the radio,
mainly because of the climate of fake news that is
around these days. You don't need any more bes in
your life, so I'm not doing that. Reading the this morning,
I was going, there must be an April Fools pranking
here somewhere, but I couldn't tell whether the story was
a prank or just part of the crazy world we
live in these days. Yesterday I heard Donald Trump refusing

(19:11):
to deny that he will find some way around getting
a third term in office, and I thought, well, that
must be an April Fool's joke, But no, it was
a day early. What I can tell you about April
First is this today, when the tax cuts finally click in.
I hesitate to call them tax cuts because it's really
a moving of the threshold, so it's more of an

(19:31):
inflation adjustment. Whatever you will pay less tax from today.
I'll be interested to hear if you notice any difference,
I feel free to email me to consider New Storks
b or Text Week ninety two ninety two will look
at this over the week. You're going to need those
tax cuts, by the way, because plenty goes up in
price today. Power prices go up ten dollars a month
today on average for New Zealand households. I hope that

(19:55):
tax cuts big enough. The minimum wage is going up today,
impacting all the medium businesses the most, and of course
the benefits are going up between two to three percent today.
Happy April Fools Day to you, Andrew Dickas let's go
around the country. Callen Proctor joins u's good morning Callum

(20:15):
morning Andrew. So Dunedin has an iconic fashion event. To
me about it?

Speaker 10 (20:21):
Yeah, it's ID Fashion Week starting today. That's no April Falls.
Contains a week full of activities, exhibitions, pop up shops,
designer events and of course the two big runway shows
at the railway station Friday and Saturday. This is expected
to boost the local economy. The twenty twenty three event
broad in just over ten million dollars. It's every two

(20:43):
years now. Organizers say the event brings a large number
of visitors to town and retailers believe it's busier than Christmas.
They say many established designers will be on show, as
well as polytech graduates and also some high school students.
Designs will feature for the first time.

Speaker 3 (20:57):
Yeah, the railway station event is awesome. If anyone wants
to mighten me anytime, I'd love to come down. How's
the weather for ddedan.

Speaker 10 (21:04):
Cloudy today, some evening drizzle possible like winds and seventeen.

Speaker 3 (21:08):
And I thank you Chrishia. It joins me from Canterbury. Hello,
good morning. So we're saying farewell to a Canterbury tourism stalwart.

Speaker 11 (21:15):
Yes, hand Mahs brings Simil Pools and Spa is saying
goodbye to its general manager of twenty five years, Graham Abbott.
It's funny you mention April first today, Andrew, because when
I spoke with Graham last week, the irony of the
timing of his final day was not lost on him.
But look, his impact there is far from a joke.
In his twenty five years, he's increased the annual visitor
numbers by eighty percent. Turn Over there at Hanmer's Pools

(21:38):
has grown from three million dollars to fourteen million. Abbot, though,
says what he's most proud of is quite cliche. He
says that's the team that he's built and the fact
that staff members arrived there and feel looked after and
a part of something really special. He's handing the reins
today to Canterbury born and bred Sarah Wiblam. She was
previously the general manager of the Royal New Zealand Yacht Squadron.

Speaker 3 (22:00):
Okay, how's Wellington's with him? Christchurch is we're the Sorry,
I'm jumping ahead to myself to get hit.

Speaker 11 (22:07):
Cloudy with occasional drizzle from this afternoon easterlies in the
highest nineteen.

Speaker 3 (22:11):
Okay, look my producer shouted christ Church and Meavick shouted
christ Church. I know, I'm sorry, Wellington, next toll, good morning,
good morning. Got a new contender in the mail race.

Speaker 6 (22:22):
Yeah, Wellington Mornings with Nick Mills had an exclusive announcement
yesterday a new entry into the Meryll race. Not the
man himself, Contrary to speculation, this is Cafe Ice owner
Carl Tiefenbaker, who is running as an independent on a
platform of changing council culture, keeping rates down, stopping wasteful spending,
he's sort of senter center right, joining councilor Ray Shung

(22:45):
as a potentially viable opponent to Tori Fino. Still yet
to have a big name shake things up though Labor,
for instance, haven't been able to find anyone despite asking
one term of Justin Leicster. Mark Sainsbury has been rumored.
FitzSimons was rumored for a time. Tiefenbaker has been unsuccessfully
running for council a couple of times, although he did

(23:07):
get very close in a by election against a Green
candidate last year.

Speaker 3 (23:11):
Fantastic sayings So actually wrote a very good piece about
why he should go for the mayoral sea So that's wonderful.
So how's Christians is weather today?

Speaker 6 (23:18):
Wellington's mainly fine, southerly's a high of twenty central April four, neve.

Speaker 3 (23:23):
A ready man, A good morning, Good morning. The governments
announced the next two Chatter schools to open.

Speaker 12 (23:28):
Yes here in Auckland, so Associate Education Minister David Seymour says,
Totada Park School and Twin Oaks Classical School. I think
this is in Royal Oak. They will join the seven
schools which have already opened. So Twin Oaks will cater
for year one to nine students. That's when it opens
in July, growing to year thirteen by twenty twenty seven.
Students will spend the first three days of the week

(23:50):
at school and then the last two days learning from home.
Totada Park will open in Tumbe one next year, beginning
with years one to four before expanding up to year
six in twenty twenty seven. Housalkands weather okay with partly
cloudy conditions still warmed twenty five is are high here.

Speaker 3 (24:04):
In Auckland seventeen to six. So there's going to be
a rod cone hotline. We talked about this earlier. Now,
my neighbor hates road cones. He's one of those guys
I hate the road cones. But he's redoing his driveway
and work has stopped and apparently he can't decide on
the surface so nothing's happening. So to stop anyone trampling
all over the site, he's put up five traffic cones.
And I said, Steve Irony, mate, he didn't laugh. Traffic

(24:28):
cones are not the devil. They save lives and prevent
injury to road workers. The issue is when road cones
are preventing is not when roade cones are preventing workers
from harm. But when there are no workers there, often
for days, that's when we start hating the road cones
because the workers aren't there. It's about the workers, not
the cones. But the road cone industry has exploded, and

(24:50):
the road coness will argue rightly that they are just
complying with the health and safety laws. But as we
heard earlier today, a lot of people imagine the health
and safety laws and go too far. So I find
the fat warre again road cones a little bit childish
on the surface. But you know, we know that people
get triggered just at the side of one, and I
choose to think of them as a beacon that something
is getting better, and it's amazing when they're gone, how

(25:10):
quickly we take the new improved infrastructure for granted and
enjoy the benefit. So it's not the rod cone and
it's the worker that's not there that's the problem. That
is sixteen to six. Donald Demayo from Australia is next.
It's News Talk.

Speaker 2 (25:21):
Zeb International correspondence with Ends and Eye Insurance. Peace of
mind for New Zealand business.

Speaker 3 (25:29):
After Australia, we go Dona Tomayo, Good morning to you.

Speaker 13 (25:32):
Good morning, So.

Speaker 3 (25:33):
ALBINIZI has been responding about that Chinese research ship which
is traveling in new waters.

Speaker 13 (25:38):
Yes, well, Australian agencies now monitoring this high tech Chinese
research ship which actually also operates a deep sea submersible vessel.
Now where is it now? It's making its way through
southern Australian waters. So tracking websites and agencies as I mentioned,
have tracked the ship passing the Victorian coastline recently.

Speaker 8 (26:00):
Now it did just.

Speaker 13 (26:01):
Complete joint surveys with New Zealand, as we know. The
Prime Minister was asked about the ship while he was
visiting Perth and his response was he'd prefer the ship
wasn't in Australian waters, but suggests that China isn't breaking
any international laws. And he also says that, as he
put it, we live in circumstances where just as Australia

(26:21):
has vessels in the South China Sea and vessels in
the Taiwan Strait, this vessel is here. He also says
he will make sure that we represent Australian interests as
he said it, and has every confidence and he repeated
that every confidence in our defense force and security agencies.
Now this comes just a few weeks after China's navy

(26:42):
conducted an unprecedented circumnavigation of much of Australia.

Speaker 3 (26:48):
If it's the fine art of brickmanship. Now you have
a growing diabetes epidemic.

Speaker 13 (26:53):
Yes, well, how many Australian adults have diabetes? New data
has been released by the Australian Bureau of Statistics Health
Measures Survey, and I think this is quite a army.
One in fifteen Australians have diabetes. Now, that is an
increase of about one point five percent compared to a
decade ago, so that makes it to oh more than well,

(27:14):
I think it is about one point three million Aussies
have diabetes. Men more likely to have diabetes and women.
Adults living in the most disadvantaged areas are more likely
to have diabetes. And interestingly, I found that Diabetes Australia
Chief Executive Justin Kane says there's actually a stigma around
even speaking about it, so some people are very uncomfortable

(27:35):
about saying that they have diabetes. Hence they're not getting
the support and the treatment that they may need. So
she's saying we need to ditch the stigma and the
data also showed that there's a growing number of Aussies
with high cholesterol and also vitamin deficiencies.

Speaker 3 (27:52):
And I thank you Dinand Tomayow it is now eleven
to six. Okay, we got a little bit more out
of the government on the cook Straight firies to you,
but not whole heap. It's agreed to go forward with
Winston Peter's proposal, which will include road and rail decks
and capacity for fifteen hundred passengers. Some say though the
capacity we will be less than we currently have. He says.
The plan has two new theories, crossing Cooks Straight by

(28:15):
Christmas twenty twenty nine, which is where our old ferries
basically run out of life, and it claims he claimed anyway,
that it will be ultimately cheaper than the last government's option.
So I'm joined now by Rail and Maritime Transport Union
spokesperson Todd Volster.

Speaker 2 (28:29):
Hello Todd, good morning.

Speaker 3 (28:31):
We still don't know how much is this going to cost,
particularly particularly port side, So what's your pick?

Speaker 9 (28:38):
Look, the good news is there well, idle, that's the
main thing. So you know, we can't get past that.
It was going towards the monster Advisory.

Speaker 3 (28:48):
Groups Yeah, that was my third question. My question is
how much is this going to cost in your extremansion.

Speaker 9 (28:56):
Look, it's completely unknown. We don't know what the breakout
costs with HE and I is, whether they were able
to make a deal or whether there's a deal there
with with High and Die around the canceled ferries. So
that's completely unknown what it's going to cost. That'll come
out if.

Speaker 3 (29:15):
We don't know what a deal costs. If we don't
know what a deal costs, do we really have a deal?

Speaker 9 (29:21):
Well, they're saying that it's commercially sensitive. They can't say
how much's going to cost because that would that would
alter the bidding arrangement. So you know, the main takeaway
is they're rail enabled and we weren't going to get
male enabled. But we can't go past how long this
has taken. I REX was very very drawn out and

(29:41):
then we've had sixteen months of limbo about what's going
to happen in the future. It's been very disturbing for
my members, my rail maritime transport members working out of
tempt in both Bonington and Pickton. So yeah, the sure
side thing is definitely a concern. They're saying that they'll
take the up a little bit, but it needs to

(30:02):
be more modest than what the Irax project was. But
how modest is it going to be?

Speaker 3 (30:06):
Well exactly, they say a rebuild and picton because that's
really behind, but just a revamp of Wellington. But I
understood that Wellington the because there was making it earthquake proof.

Speaker 9 (30:17):
Yeah, that was definitely a concern. It was also making
it one hundred year asset that it didn't need to be,
So you know, it's fair to say that there was
the infrastructure on land that blew things out. The deal
for the boats was an ex fond deal. The original deal.
People talked about Ferraris and Toyotas or something or Corollas,
but it was never The concern around the boat build itself.

Speaker 3 (30:40):
Was still on the port side. It's all in the
port side, all the port side, so they reckon the
boats are here by twenty twenty nine. There's an awful
lot of construction work that would have to happen so
that they can dock. Do you think the whole thing
is achievable? And also the current boats end of life
is twenty twenty nine, so we're cutting it pretty fine.

Speaker 9 (30:58):
Right to the edge. Those boats are probably nearly three
decades old by that started, so it's definitely taking it
to the edge. I understand from what Monster peace All
was saying yesterday is that there has been significant surveys
of the boats and recommendations on how to keep them
going for that long. But you know just as well,
we're not an aviation running around with city of your

(31:19):
old planes.

Speaker 3 (31:21):
And I thank you for your turn to a volster.
Tell Volster from the Rail and Maritime Union on the deal,
and I repeat, if we don't know what it's going
to cost, do we really have a deal. But you're
commercially sensitive And as seven Minister sexcess news talks at.

Speaker 1 (31:34):
B get ahead of the headlines on early edition Andrew
Dickens and One Room Make your Property Search Simple news talks.

Speaker 3 (31:44):
That'd be got a texture of morning. Andrew. I listened
to your interview earlier about the airport charges of the
ComCom and the overcharging, and I could not believe what
I was hearing. I work in the industry, and the
airlines have been telling the airport company that their charges
are extreme for more than five years and the airport
company have done nothing but ignored them. Auckland airport is
without doubt being gouging airlines and therefore gouging travelers monopolistic behavior,

(32:06):
no better than the supermarkets. My cosking aboarding to him.
That is why we have the Commerce Commission. Of course, Yes,
and we'll talk to the airport about that this morning,
and we'll talk to Winston. Can you answer the question,
what's happened? What did Winston Peters do yesterday that Nikola
Willis didn't or couldn't have done? Nothing?

Speaker 14 (32:24):
Literally? What's he done? What's he achieved? In the three five?

Speaker 3 (32:27):
I'm find the plan so vague? Really, I just asked
the guy, is a deal really a deal if you
know nothing about it?

Speaker 2 (32:34):
No?

Speaker 14 (32:34):
I mean I understand to the point where I mean
you can't. You can't have a tend to process out
in the open otherwise everyone knows what everyone else is
bidding for. And I understand that part. But I mean,
so what he announced yesterday were a couple of ships
slightly an't than what we've got no infrastructure, and so
that's fine, no problem with that. But what see Willis
had that job for a year, a whole year. What
did she do in that time? I don't apart from
cancel ires and then they give him the job for

(32:56):
three months and all he can come up with, I
will do two ships and we'll have a tend to things.

Speaker 3 (33:00):
What we were doing.

Speaker 14 (33:00):
You could have done that in a minute and a half.
It's like the supermarket thing the other day. What did
they announce that they haven't or couldn't have died? And
by wringing up a couple of people like the warehouse
and going do you have problems expanding?

Speaker 3 (33:11):
How can we help make you keep going down this track?
If someone's going to turn around to you and say, Okay,
you're in charge, and then you're going to have to
do it.

Speaker 14 (33:17):
Things are going to be different when I'm in charge,
very very different. There's going to be three terms, and
there will be three terms. Joe Parker is coming in
today and I'm looking forward to catching up with him
and trying to work our way through the heavyweight division
as to who's there, who's available when he's going to
fight them, How many crowns can you get? Et cetera,
et cetera, et cetera. So anyway we'll catch up with him,
that'd be great.

Speaker 3 (33:34):
He's a lovely, nice guy, big hands, big smile, my
name's Andrew Dickins. Thanks to producer Kenzie, I will see
you again tomorrow. Goodbye, why.

Speaker 12 (34:06):
Whatever.

Speaker 1 (34:09):
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