April 7, 2025 • 34 mins
On the Early Edition with Full Show Podcast Tuesday 8th April 2025, The Government's announced a massive 12 billion dollar investment in defence over the next four years Retired Lieutenant Colonel Hayden Ricketts tells Andrew Dickens how it will make a difference.
Former Politicians and health advocates are rallying against New Zealand's lobbying regulations, calling for more transparency, Boyd Swinburn tells Andrew Dickens what went on at the campaign launch.
The Mental Health Foundation's launched a petition calling on Police to stop the plan to scale back attendance at mental health callouts, Former Police Officer and mental health advocate Lance Burdett shares his thoughts.
Plus, Peter Dutton has dropped a major policy promise ahead of the election, Australia Correspondent Donna Demaio shares the latest.
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
The issues is the interviews and the insight. Andrew dickens
on early edition with one roof make your property search
simple news talks.
Speaker 2 (00:11):
It'd be hey, good onrding to you. Thank you for
choosing us. I'm Andrew Dickinson. In the next sixty minutes,
how soon can you go from being a politician to
a lobbyist? A new campaign has launched to stop the
police joining the gravy train as soon as they leave office,
and we'll have that story for you in five Police
still need to be involved in committing mental health patients
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and they're sick of it. So what can we do
to lessen the load lanes per debt? We'll join you
in ten minutes time and event spending it's to be
increased to two percent of GDP. Why hasn't this happened earlier?
I'll talk about this and we'll talk about this story
just before six. We'll have correspondence from right around New
zeal And, we'll have Donal Demio from Australia and we'll
have news as it breaks and you can have your
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say by sending me a text. The number is ninety
two to ninety two or small charge applies seven after five.
Speaker 1 (01:02):
The agenda.
Speaker 2 (01:03):
Well, it's Tuesday, the eighth to April. US stock markets
plunged again on opening after another day of worldwide market
turmoil spart by Donald Trump's tariffs. We lost billions on
our market. In London, the Financial Time Stock Exchange one
hundred index dropped to its lowest level in a year.
European share prices plunged, and Asian stocks have seen their
worst drop in eight decade. But Donald Trump has called
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for patients, say that the tariffs will bring in billions
of dollars a week.
Speaker 3 (01:30):
I don't want anything to go down, but sometimes you
have to take the medicine to fix up them. And
we have such a a horrible We have been treated
so badly by other countries because we had stupid leadership
that allowed this to happen.
Speaker 2 (01:47):
And the question is who's paying the billions in extra revenue.
I'll have that story in a minute. Meanwhile, the presidents
also threatened China with further tariffs. He says if they
don't withdraw the thirty four percent retaliatory tariffs on the
US back with the fifty percent one.
Speaker 4 (02:01):
Donald Trump clearly believes that China is the boogeyman and
he's taking very strong and aggressive actions, and I may
say the nuclear option when it comes to trade relations
between the United States and China.
Speaker 5 (02:15):
So China is.
Speaker 4 (02:17):
Very much occupied, a very large portion of his attention,
and it is a trade partner with which the United
States and the Trump administration has its greatest concerns.
Speaker 2 (02:28):
Now and two across the ditch in Australia's opposition leader
Peter Dutton has backtracked on an election promise to end
work from home options for public servants after backlash. Peter Dutton,
who'd been nicknamed Dogi, Dutton, said his Liberal National Coalition
had made a mistake and he apologized.
Speaker 6 (02:46):
We've apologized for it. We support flexible workplace arrangements and
our plan, which was only targeted for the public service
in camera life, has been able to crowd into a
scare campaign, which is not what it was intended. And
as we've said before, we will make sure that we
can help families and Betsy Jackie what our positive plan
of getting our country back on tracks met.
Speaker 2 (03:08):
So that backtrack leaves a twenty four billion dollar hole
in their proposed budget, so will they be able to
fund health and other spending promises. We'll look at this
with Donald to Mayo later and the leaders Peter Dutton
and Anthony Albanesi will go head to head tonight in
the first election debate. And finally, King Charles and Queen
Camilla have arrived in Rome and they're beginning the estate
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visit to Italy. The visit will see a mix of
soft power diplomacy greeting the crowds and also a bit
of romance because the trip coincides with the couple's twentieth
wedding anniversary.
Speaker 7 (03:39):
It's interesting thinking about the King's reign actually that since
he took to the throne he has now done state
visits to France, to Germany and to Italy, all of
them reinforcing relationships with these major powers in Europe.
Speaker 2 (03:55):
It's ten out five Andrew Dickens foll Afili edition with
one roof make Your Property Search Simple Youth Dog Zibby.
So property developers are excited because there's going to be
a big sell off of social housing just been announced.
Kayinger Aura have said it plans to sell nine hundred
state homes from July this year until June next year,
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early an estimate of four hundred to five hundred million dollars.
Of those, about three hundred are in Auckland. It's been
described as a gold mine for developers as it includes
property in some established suburbs. And I know this because
I grew up in a social housing neighborhood in Leefield. Remuerra. Yes, Remuerra,
places like Harpua Road and Liga Street all full of
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state houses. They were pockets of what of government housing
because in the day, those governments believed in what's called
pepper potting, mixing the wealthy and the poor and so
avoiding ghettos and promoting social unity. So we had some
social houses amongst the mansions. Now they're selling the social
houses and that is a good thing. If you look
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at the properties, there are three Betty basic rectangles on
masses of land. The land is the value and because
of its position, the land is through the roof. Now
the modern view sees, of course, we could build seven
town houses on that land that currently hosts just one dwelling.
So there will be some who bemoan the loss of
one social house and the profit of a developer. But
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their trick about all of this is the capital gain.
The government realizes that money needs to be ring fenced
so it pays for more social housing to replace the
one house they're selling. If it all disappears into the
consolidated funds, then we've all been ripped off. If the
government plays this with a straight bat, this will not
only be a windfall for developers, but also a windfall
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for those who need social housing. Andrew dickens it's twelve
after five, so the tariff wars continue. Trump's warning of
extra tariffs on China this morning if they retaliate. Meanwhile,
the American public is running around trying to learn economics
one oh one, so much so that sixty minutes on
the telly this week is running at tariff prim Hey, listen,
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tariff is a tax or a foreign country.
Speaker 8 (06:08):
That's the way it is, whether you like it, and
that a lot of people like to say, oh, it's
a tax or US.
Speaker 3 (06:12):
No, no, no, it's a tax on a foreign country.
It's a tax on a country that's ripping us off
and stealing our jobs.
Speaker 9 (06:21):
But most any importer or economist will tell you the
President is mistaken. Tariffs are not a tax on a
foreign country. The tax is paid by the importer. In
the United States, for example, Walmart imports goods from China,
and when those goods cross into the United States, Walmart
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pays the tariff. If Walmart decides to pass the cost
to consumers, then you paid the tariff, not China.
Speaker 2 (06:52):
And that's the thing. The tariffs are like a sales
tax on American consumers. That means tariffs are inflacing me here.
We would call that non tradable inflation. It's a bit
like rates and power bills. It's inflation that you can't
control it. It can't trade, it can't go down in America.
It's going up. And when inflation breaks out in America,
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it breaks out around the globe, which interests US and
me today because our Reserve Bank is reviewing their settings
on Wednesday about our interest rates and if there are
vestiges of inflation hanging around the globe, the talk is
that the big interest rates cuts are going to be
off the table. So you see, this whole thing brings
us all together. It is five fourteen. So we've heard
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stories about guys who lose an election and they go
into the public sphere and look at that all of
a sudden, they become a lobbyist because they've been a
minister for the Crown. They've learned all sorts of things,
They've got all sorts of contexts, you know, their phoneus
full of numbers and they go right, I can actually
monetize this and they end out lobbying. Now, how quickly
should they be allowed to do that? There's a new
group who are rathering against all of this, and I'll
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talk about this and what they want in just a
few mothers time. It's News Talks at.
Speaker 1 (08:02):
B the first word on the News of the Day,
Early edition with Andrew Dickens and One Room, Make Your
Property Search Simple, New Talk Nibby.
Speaker 2 (08:13):
It's sixteen alf to five. So a group calling themselves
Level the playing field rallying against New Zealand's lobbying regulations
and they're calling for more transparency. Former Prime Minister Helen
Clark and former Attorney General Chris Finlson where some of
the speakers at the campaign launch last night. They're calling
for stronger lobbying regulations, a cooling off period to prevent
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former ministers from immediately becoming lobbyists, and a tightening of
political donation rules. So Health Coalition arterio's co chairperson Boyd
Swimburn and joins me now goodbody to your board.
Speaker 10 (08:46):
Andrew.
Speaker 2 (08:47):
So you held the launch party last night. What were
the headlines that came out of it.
Speaker 10 (08:51):
Well, those sort of things that you said, We recognize
the problem that we have with exious and influence on
public policy is at the moment two dominated or has
been for some years by vested interest by commercial interests,
and those groups that are pushing for the common goods
for social outcomes, health outcomes, environmental outcomes really don't get
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to say. So this is the sort of the playing
field that needs to be leveled. Nothing wrong with lobbying
so long as it's in balance and we get a
public policy for public good, not for private good. So
there's a fair consensus building around the need for lobbying laws.
You know, New Zealand has no lobbying regulations, makes us
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an outlier in OECD countries, and so we need lobbying regulations.
We need a whole bunch of things to try to
strengthen democracy.
Speaker 2 (09:47):
The fact that you had a former labor politician having Clerk,
and a former national politician Chris Finnison there speaking on
the issue, does this mean this issue has bipartisan support.
Speaker 10 (09:57):
Well, it has to have bipartisan supporter Scott. It's an
issue which cuts across the political spectrum. We also had
Antolli there, who's the formal National Minister as well. We're
not going to get progress on this unless both main
parties at least are on board and see this slide
that were having and trust in government. The Transparency International
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figures show that New New Zealand's corruption index we used
to be top of the world and now we're sliding
down each year. We need to rebuild that and get
trust back in government.
Speaker 2 (10:33):
And you and your coalition Health Coalition or you actually
got into the views. You called on New Zealand first
to come clean due to the Associate Minister of Health
Casey Costello's links to tobacco giants. So this is your motivation.
Would this sort of regulation stop that?
Speaker 10 (10:47):
Well, it's not going to be one our magic bullet.
There's a whole bunch of things we need to do
to retrieve our our democracy and make it a fair
playing field. But yes, in health where we have tobacco, alcohol,
whole and unhealthy food. These things cause a third of
the health damage in this country and yet we have
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not been able to get policies through successive governments because
of the pressure of lobbying and so we really need
that to improve our health.
Speaker 2 (11:18):
So can I just ask, very briefly, what's the coalition
government saying? Are they on board?
Speaker 10 (11:23):
Well, now that we've had the launch, we're going to
be taking this around to the governments and to the
opposition parties as well, because as you said, this needs
to be across parties. The Attorney General, Paul Goldsmith has
had some lobbying regulations and reports on it on his
desk for some time, so we want to be able
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to put this stronger case to him. He's had this
report about a voluntary code for lobbyists, but that's not
nearly strong enough. I need a whole raft of things.
Speaker 2 (11:56):
Boyd swinburn I thank you that as Professor Boyd Swinburne,
who is the Royal Health Coalition co chairperson, I need
to I don't know, but there we are. It is
five point twenty. The police have to be involved when
you're committing a mental health patient. The police find this
a huge train on resources. Back in November they announce
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some policies to withdraw. How is that going and how
can we move forward with it? Lance Bidett, the famous
negotiator from the Police's Next.
Speaker 1 (12:26):
Get ahead of the headlines on early edition Andrew Dickens
and One Room, Make Your Property Search Simple news talks.
Speaker 2 (12:33):
It'd be It is five twenty three now. The Mental
Health Foundations launched a petition calling for police to stop
its plan to scale back attendance at mental health call outs.
A police, of course, say they're spending too much time
escorting voluntary patients between hospitals and emergency departments and they
want to fight crime. Former police officer and mental health
advocate Lance Burdett has worken up early for us. Good
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morning to your Lance, Good morning here. So how much
time on an eight hour shift for an average cop
has spent on mental health callouts, Well, it can.
Speaker 11 (13:04):
Be quite a bit of time. And it's not just
me a matter of transporting them. The way it was
done was there was also a sergeant had to be
following that patrol, so it took quite a bit of time. Now,
by the very term mental health crisis, which is what
these people are going through is mental health, so they
have a health issue. They're not criminals.
Speaker 5 (13:24):
Now.
Speaker 11 (13:24):
In the early days when I joined the police, the
only way to get them help and support was to
risk them and they put them in a police cell.
Now and somebody who's going through a mental health crisis,
the last thing they needed to be put into a
police cell. Okay, not a great place for them.
Speaker 2 (13:37):
Police launch phase one of a reduction program on November
the fourth of Mental Health Foundation. I'm not happy about it.
I want to ask the question are police already scaling
back these operations because I heard the Minister Matt Doucy
on Ryan Bridges show last night and he seemed a
little unsure of that.
Speaker 11 (13:52):
As far as I know, Well, where ever possible, they
will be scaling back. And it's what they've done anyway.
They've always rereharshed it, so they will only go to
people who are a real genuine crisis where they might
have been causing violence. But again, you know, I do
know of one particular occasion where a taser had to
be used on somebody. Now, I mean, that's just in humane,
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isn't it That you can't negotiate with these people. You
can't because they're going through a crisis state, and oftentimes
when you turn up in your police uniform, that just
makes it worse.
Speaker 2 (14:26):
So mental health crisis teams are already stretched for resources
and now the police are wanting to pull back. If
not police, then who ambulance service?
Speaker 11 (14:38):
That's their role is transporting patients? Isn't it mental health?
The health patients? So what needs to have at mention
of that?
Speaker 2 (14:44):
So, what needs to happen to enable the ambulance crews
or the ambulance services to have enough resources to cope
with the extra workload.
Speaker 11 (14:52):
Well, they do have transport services already.
Speaker 10 (14:56):
Now.
Speaker 11 (14:56):
The reason why I say this, and I hate to
say it, because I know that they're of the pump,
probably worse than the police are to be frank and
it's not a fully funded service. That the ambulance service
need to be fully funded by government to do this work.
Speaker 2 (15:11):
Lance, I thank you for your work, Lance, author, former
police officer, a mental health advocate, and it is our
five twenty six This News Talks at B.
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News Talks ab So the news that New Zealand is
going to spend twelve billion dollars on defenses not news
to welcome, and yet it is also welcome news, and
this is because it highlights the state of the planet
it's an unsetled world, and in an unsettled world, defense
is essential and the equation for a credible defense is
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spending two percent of GDP. Now, within eight years we'll
get to that target. It's a doubling of the budget.
And the question is why are we only just doing
this now. If we've been spending close to that for
the past thirty years, we wouldn't be facing so dramatic
a spend today. But we didn't. We were fat and
complacent in a mistaken belief that we were safe and
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sound and if something went wrong, our friends would come
and save us. Now we have China knocking on our
door and sailing in our seas. For as long as
I've been in the news business, which is over thirty
years now, Australia and the States have warned that our
coke tailing did not cut it, and we had to
do our bit, maybe not have fighter jets, but at
least something. So fair play to Judith Collins. She's finally
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accepting the responsibility that we've always needed to take. But
this comes at a difficult time. Firstly, of course, the
world has become more dangerous, so time is of the
essence and Secondly, we're broke, and it comes at a
time when barely reported mass redundancies are actually happening in
defense to meet government spending targets. So with this move
they have announced. With this move, basically they are firing
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at the moment on one hand and they're going to
employ with another. Now on it, you can argue that
both the firing and the spending are both necessary, and
they're necessary because we've sat in our hands for so long,
and they're necessary because we have spent irresponsibly. Andrew Dickens,
it's five point twenty nine. Peter Dutton's made a very
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embarrassing you turn in the election campaign. He's not going
to fire public servants because the public servants rebelled, and
now he's got a twenty four billion dollar hole at
his budget. Donald Tomao is joining us. We're going right
around the country as well, and we'll talk defense before
six here on Early Edition with Andrew Dickinson for Brian
Bridge on News Talk ZBB.
Speaker 12 (17:38):
Sometimes are just kidding.
Speaker 1 (17:42):
You on your radio and online on iHeartRadio Early Edition
with Andrew Dickens and One Roof To make your Property
search Simple Youth Talk zib B.
Speaker 5 (18:08):
Good Wing to write it to Tuesday.
Speaker 2 (18:11):
I'm Andrew Dickens and for Ryan Bridge, and this is
a song called as He's on watch Out. It's Ed Sharon.
Ed Shearon is back. Over the weekend he released his
first single from his new album. The new album is
called Play, and this is it as He's as spelled
a z isz am from There's Ed a zz Am.
(18:32):
What the hell is this about? Apparently it's a fasty
phrase that translates to my dear fastly, of course, the
official language of Iran. I have to wonder whether Ed
Shearan is watching the world headlines right now and wondering
whether this was a good marketing move. But I mean
he's Ed Shearan. So the album is going to be
called Play. It'll be the first record in a series
that will include the album's pause, rewind, fast forward and stop.
(18:56):
He's been looking at a tape recorded bad too much.
He's so excited for all the other surprises he has
for us. Maybe that's a tour now. In personal news,
I blew my hand up yesterday. I turned on the
barbecue to make some lunch, and I didn't realize that
the last user of the barbecue, which would be me,
hadn't quite turned the gas off last time he used it,
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so I went wandering out there. There was a vestige
of gas under the hood. I didn't realize that hit
the igniter. When I hit the igniter, the lid blew
off and a spurt of super hot gas blasted my
left hand. It was quite a bang, I tell you,
she scared them but Jesus out of me. But the
good thing was it was over in an instant because
the hood snaps shut again. But it has left me
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with a somewhat burnt and leathery left hand. No blistering,
just sort of you know, it's sore, and it's the
skin's gone all thick. You know how when you get
a burnt skin goes thick. I blew my hand up
with a barbecue. So just a little public service announcement,
always lift the lids when lighting the barbecue, because you
don't know what fool forgot to completely turn the gas off.
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Twenty one to six, it's time to go right around
the country. We go to Dunedin first. Callum Proctor, Good
morning to you morning, Andrew. Tell me the latest on
the fight to prevent South Dunedin from flooding.
Speaker 13 (20:15):
Well, we're at the stage where it's time for the
residents to have a say on all of the different
options that were presented in those two major reports released
last month analyzing the risks facing South dened in the
low lying area. The Danedan City and regional councils here
have come up with seven options to protect the community,
costing up to seven billion dollars. They include keeping the
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status quo right through to letting the water in and
a large scale retreat. The program manages Jonathan Rowe. He's
encouraging all residents to attend these workshops and contribute to
the discussions here and the future of South Dnedan. The
first of those public workshops is in South Dunedin today.
Speaker 2 (20:53):
How's the weather tell me? It's not raining, it's.
Speaker 13 (20:55):
Raining and it's heavy and we've got a strong and
strong win heavy rainwatch here. Look the rains to ease
by midday. We've got Gail for Soel West discussing one
hundred k's easing late afternoon the heights today thirteenth.
Speaker 2 (21:07):
All right to christ should we go in clear sure?
With good morning? Good morning? You've got a big fire
in the east.
Speaker 14 (21:12):
Do we ever a big fire at This commercial premises
on Mace's Road in Bromley. It broke out at about
one yesterday afternoon. No one in christ Church would have
missed the huge black plume of smoke that came from that.
Fire crews have been there all night. They're working on
what's still considered a deep seated fire. They certainly have
not risked any firefighters being in the building overnight due
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to the darkness, so really, I'm told they've been standing
there spraying water on the building, waiting until first light
when they can assess things. I've been on the phone
with Fire and Emergency shift manager Simon Leiford. He says
a member of the public was taken to hospital overnight
from the scene after turning up and then suffering respiratory
issues due to the smoke. The good news is the
fire is still contained to the one very large building.
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Mind you, a fire investigator will look into the cause
of it once it's safe enough to do so. This
place happened after some smoke from controlled burnoffs plagued much
of the city yesterday morning. It was sort of hovering
very low. Simon tells me that's possible again this morning
due to the cooler morning conditions, meaning that smoke hovers
right down close to us.
Speaker 2 (22:15):
Now, how's your weather, Well, we're under.
Speaker 14 (22:17):
The same mornings actually showers from late this morning. Strong
wind watch in place from nine severe gaals gusting one
hundred and twenty kilometers an hour at a high sixteen.
Speaker 2 (22:25):
And I thank you when we go to Wellington now
with Max Tolka, wanting to you Max, good morning. So
the crypto outbreak continues to spread, and we're not talking
the currency, we're talking the milk.
Speaker 5 (22:35):
Yeah, that's right.
Speaker 15 (22:36):
This one has a lot of parents on edge. There
are now sixty cases of this highly contagious parasitic bug
making its way well, firstly in the Hut Valley, now
across the wider region in general, there have been cases
in polyidua carpety wided appa cryptosporidiosis. It's been linked to
a number of swimming pools. A few have had to
completely drain their water and refill. Sixty cases farm more
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than usual for this time of the year. The local
medical Officer of Health reckons there are even more in
the community that haven't been picked up yet. Perhaps there
are some who just think they've got food poisoning or something.
Childcare centers are on high alert as it can spread
quite easily among younger children.
Speaker 2 (23:17):
And how's Wellington's weather today?
Speaker 15 (23:19):
Yeah, not great either, the rain strengthening as the morning
goes on. Very strong winds this morning as well high
of eighteenth Central and never writ a.
Speaker 2 (23:26):
Mane who joins me from Walkanhella, Neva.
Speaker 16 (23:28):
Greetings.
Speaker 2 (23:28):
What's the latest and Destiny Church versus the Tiata tu
Public Library.
Speaker 16 (23:32):
Well, I can tell you that Brian Tamaki won't be
charged now this is in relation to the violence that
at a West aalok And library back in February, due
to a lack of evidence. Now we'll remember that the
violence erupted at this is at the Tiata two Peninsula
library after members of the church swarmed in protest of
a family pride event. Now, non profit organization countering Hate
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Speech altia at Or alleged that Tarmiki had incited the
disorder via social media. But police, I've had a look
at it. The I've now concluded these insufficient evidence to
charge them following a thorough investigation. But we do remember
too that there were multiple assault charges and they've been
laid against the other people that were allegedly involved.
Speaker 2 (24:11):
House orchards.
Speaker 16 (24:12):
Weather today, well, not as bad as the others. I
can tell you that isolated chills developing. We've got a
period of rain around midday followed by fine spells in
our highs twenty two.
Speaker 2 (24:21):
I thank you need it now seventeen to six more
reaction to the increase in defense spending, and Steve's agitated
about Helen Clarke. He wants me to ask Helen Clarke
why spending was cut under her regime. Her naivety was unbelievable.
He says that Helen perpetuated the Peacenik belief that the
world had somehow changed and large wars were a thing
of the past. Yet no one is calling her out
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on it, and she continues to pursue to plicate the
larger powers strategy and hope for the best. Yes, Steve, Yeah,
here's the thing about Helen Clark and defense spending. Remember
the laves, the light armored vehicles. We bought a truckload
of laves which were outdated and somewhat unnecessary because I
don't know if you realize we're a maritime country and
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you can't go driving these labs all over the sea.
And remember the criticism about this. You can get it
terribly wrong when you're buying kit when you're increasing defense spending,
and that's a warning going forward. We'll talk more on
this before sex with Hayden Ricketts and Hayden as a
retired lieutenant colonel. But next Donald to Maayo from Australia.
Here on Newstalk set.
Speaker 1 (25:25):
B International Correspondence with Ends and Eye Insurance, Peace of
mind for New Zealand business.
Speaker 5 (25:32):
Well to Australia and es.
Speaker 2 (25:33):
Good morning to Donna Tomayo at thirteen minutes to six.
Hi Donna, oh, hello to you. Hello. Now we're one
week into the election campaign and the courliss and Leader
Leader of the Opposition, Peter Dutton, has made a somewhat
embarrassing u turn.
Speaker 12 (25:47):
Yes, it's rather dramatic a policy reversal, let's call it.
Of course, it had planned the coalitionion to sack forty
one thousand public service employees. It had planned to restrict
work from home arrangements. Peter Dutton has admitted he made
a mistake there his words. He also said he got
it wrong. Now the plan had proved really unpopular. This
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is a policy that was going to have a mandated
minimum number of days in the office, that is five
days a week. While who wasn't a popular with well
among women, for starters working families. Well, they've come to
rely on these flexible work arrangements, as we know. So
the Coalition now says it will rely on natural attrition
and those sackings will no longer happen. And Dutton is
(26:30):
now professing that and these are his words. We're listening
to what people say. We've also heard from the Prime
Minister who says no one believes Peter Dutton has changed
his mind. He believes that Dutton will rip up those
flexible work arrangements the minute if he does get the chance.
Speaker 2 (26:46):
Yes, well, Jim Charmer's the Treasures in fact been calling
Peter Dutton, Doji Dutton other elon mush which Turner phrase.
Problem of course with the coalition that leaves a twenty
four billion dollar hole in their funding plan and they
wanted to use that on health than other spending.
Speaker 12 (27:00):
So yeah, how are they going to pay for the
range of policies.
Speaker 2 (27:04):
That's right, it's true. Meanwhile, Pauline Hanson is hiring in house.
Speaker 12 (27:09):
Oh gosh, well we know that she's a very very
controversial figure in Australian politics. Point Hanson of One Nation
fame has enlisted her daughter Lee to carry on One
Nation's influence in parliament. As she's put it, she denies nepotism,
saying well her three sons aren't up to the job.
She says, I wouldn't have any of my sons in parliament.
(27:30):
This is about qualifications, not nepotism. So forty one year
old Lee, who has just been a newly announced Senate
candidate for Tasmania, also commented about her brothers and said, yes,
you know she does mean that, but we know that Hanson.
Senator Hanson is seventy years old, so she's nearing retirement
aged of course, and she's saying her time in politics
(27:52):
is coming to an end and she wants people to
carry carry on or her legacy. As she put it,
there you go.
Speaker 2 (28:00):
Retirement is a state of mind, not an age. Can
I just remind you.
Speaker 12 (28:05):
This is what there were, this is what pundits have
been observing about Hags and that's all.
Speaker 2 (28:10):
I don't tend to.
Speaker 12 (28:11):
Note people's ages as you may.
Speaker 2 (28:13):
Be as you get older, you tend to do that less.
It is eleven to six New stoksb Coundre Dickens. All right,
the government has announced a mass of twelve billion dollar
investment in defense over the next four years. Nine billion
of it is completely new, with a plan to lift
defense spending to more than two percent of GDP in
the next eight years. It comes as we've seen all
(28:33):
this activity from China. They've launched an into ballistic missile
in the Pacific last year, hastling the jetstar planes. We
had three Chinese warships sailing off the coast of Sydney
a couple of months ago. So retired Lieutenant Colonel Hayden
Ricketts joins me, good morning to your Hayden.
Speaker 8 (28:49):
Good morning, Andrew, how are you?
Speaker 5 (28:50):
I'm good.
Speaker 2 (28:50):
This is a record spend and it's overdue, isn't it.
Speaker 10 (28:54):
I think it is.
Speaker 8 (28:55):
I congratulate the government on what is really a step
change for defense spending over the past thirty five years
or sorry, twelve billion dollar commitment to increase spending over
the next four years. That's absolutely massive. But our observation
around the whole plan is that it's great to see
some new tins, some new ships for Navy, to aircraft Reirforce,
(29:16):
and some armored vehicles and things for army. But what
this misses the mark on is the people component parts.
Holiness was identified as a really contributing factor in the
sinking of the MONEYMNUI, and I don't see where in
the Defense Capability Plan the link between that holiness and
how the DCP is going to address the gaps and
the key skills and trades in the defense walls at
(29:37):
the moment.
Speaker 2 (29:38):
Indeed, as Little reported that in fact, the Defense Force
is going through a major restructure right now because of
the attack on government spending, and so there are in
fact hundreds of people being laid off, but they're in
the middle of a process right now, so their morale
is already low, but now they're being told, actually, now
you're getting more money. So it's a confusing situation, it is.
Speaker 8 (29:56):
I think it's a really good signal that the government
is sending to our international and our partners. I think
that you might have seen a little graph that they
come up with the pressure Reason for your listeners. It's
a graph sort of between nineteen eighty showing defense spending
decreasing from three percent of GDP down to one percent,
so at the moment and then almost like a complete
U turn back up to two percent over the east
(30:18):
eight years. That graph is going to brief beautifully in
capitals all around the world and especially in the White House.
But I think, in realistic terms, can the government afford
to do this? I'm not convinced. Cynically. We've seen twenty
billion dollars invested or stated investment in twenty sixteen in
the DCP, another fourteen million sort of fourteen billion in
(30:40):
defense and DCP nineteen and now another signal of a
huge investment. But these investments get promised, but they don't
get delivered on.
Speaker 2 (30:47):
But here's the other thing. I mean, you're talking the money,
but it's not about the money.
Speaker 5 (30:49):
It's the kit.
Speaker 2 (30:50):
And if you buy the wrong kit, you can waste
that money really quickly. I talked about the light armored
vehicles that Health and Clark bought for um piece work,
when really a lot of people at the time a argue,
maybe you should be buying a boat.
Speaker 10 (31:02):
Well, you're right.
Speaker 8 (31:03):
So Army has got a lot of those light armored
equals that are not being cruised. Some of the new
bush Masters have bought a lot of those equals that
are still not being full of utilized. Navy's got ships
tied up despite the factor of the loss of the moneymenting,
and I think air Force has got more aircraft at
the moment that they can comfortably crew. A commitment to
spend more money on more gear is great, but without
(31:24):
the personnel component part of that to support it in behind,
the whole plan just sort of starts to fall apart.
Speaker 2 (31:29):
Hayden Ricketts, I thank you for your service, and I
thank you for your time this morning that as Hayden
here has retarded Lieutenant Colonel and its news talk to
me and it's seven to.
Speaker 1 (31:36):
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Speaker 5 (31:46):
Talks they'd be.
Speaker 2 (31:47):
So it's Hayden Rickets said, we've got this, We've got
the money, where do we find the staff? And as
I say, we've got the money, but what kit do
we buy? Because that's that's the critical segment it comes
to defense, because you could go and buy some lemons,
you could buy some second stuff that fall out of
the air Can I mention the seven five seven for instance?
So we could blow this to our billion just like
that text through saying even some of the SAS guys
(32:08):
have had to buy additions to their equipment personally back
in the day. And that's our defense force, ladies and gentlemen.
And this is Mike Husking, good morning.
Speaker 17 (32:17):
I felt good about yesterday in that join the world
type vibe.
Speaker 2 (32:21):
You know it's been.
Speaker 17 (32:21):
Two percent to be GDP and stuff like that. Three
ships we have, yeah, well yeah, apparently five don't. Well
we don't at the moment because we don't know that
because they're tied up because we don't have the staff.
So that's one of the big issues. So they talked
about that yesterday. That's in the budget. The salary money
is in the budget, which is separate to what they
were announcing yesterday, and there's a lot of drones and
(32:42):
a lot of that personalless tech ithance.
Speaker 2 (32:45):
Lethality is the headline day.
Speaker 17 (32:47):
First time you've ever heard that. Yeah, I've never heard
lethality before as a word. But anyway, we're going to
have more of it as a result, and the Australians
love us, and the world will love us, and the
whole world's change again. So we're sort of joining the
big boys club. My only hope is that it's one
of those things that stays the because if you get
the Greens and labor and power, you've got to wonder
whether they're pro guns and military and fighting and conflict
(33:08):
and stuff like that.
Speaker 2 (33:09):
Anyway, David Parker was actually on the Telly On on
the weekend and he seemed good year.
Speaker 17 (33:14):
But David Parker is not always aligned with the Labour
Party from my experience, you know what I'm saying. Anyway,
So Ron Mark, who was a defense minister, Judith Collins,
who is a defense minister, is going.
Speaker 2 (33:22):
To be with a song. You are a defense minister,
do you have to have fired a gun?
Speaker 17 (33:26):
It's a very good question, but that's applicable to every
single portfolio. If you're the broadcasting minister, do you ever
have to have hosted a radio show?
Speaker 2 (33:33):
So the answer is.
Speaker 17 (33:34):
No, she said fumbling up in the press conference yesterday.
She said at the end of it, it's been a
big learning curve for me. So good on at for
saying that's the answer is probably she didn't get any
good program.
Speaker 2 (33:45):
Yeah, remember that picture of Judith with the hemp.
Speaker 17 (33:47):
Very much and she's with us this morning.
Speaker 2 (33:50):
Good take you to producer Ken think my name's Andrew Dickins.
I'm back again tomorrow.
Speaker 5 (33:55):
Have a great day.
Speaker 1 (34:06):
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and we'll have that story for you in five Police
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Speaker 1 (01:02):
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Well, it's Tuesday, the eighth to April. US stock markets
plunged again on opening after another day of worldwide market
turmoil spart by Donald Trump's tariffs. We lost billions on
our market. In London, the Financial Time Stock Exchange one
hundred index dropped to its lowest level in a year.
European share prices plunged, and Asian stocks have seen their
worst drop in eight decade. But Donald Trump has called
(01:25):
for patients, say that the tariffs will bring in billions
of dollars a week.
Speaker 3 (01:30):
I don't want anything to go down, but sometimes you
have to take the medicine to fix up them. And
we have such a a horrible We have been treated
so badly by other countries because we had stupid leadership
that allowed this to happen.
Speaker 2 (01:47):
And the question is who's paying the billions in extra revenue.
I'll have that story in a minute. Meanwhile, the presidents
also threatened China with further tariffs. He says if they
don't withdraw the thirty four percent retaliatory tariffs on the
US back with the fifty percent one.
Speaker 4 (02:01):
Donald Trump clearly believes that China is the boogeyman and
he's taking very strong and aggressive actions, and I may
say the nuclear option when it comes to trade relations
between the United States and China.
Speaker 5 (02:15):
So China is.
Speaker 4 (02:17):
Very much occupied, a very large portion of his attention,
and it is a trade partner with which the United
States and the Trump administration has its greatest concerns.
Speaker 2 (02:28):
Now and two across the ditch in Australia's opposition leader
Peter Dutton has backtracked on an election promise to end
work from home options for public servants after backlash. Peter Dutton,
who'd been nicknamed Dogi, Dutton, said his Liberal National Coalition
had made a mistake and he apologized.
Speaker 6 (02:46):
We've apologized for it. We support flexible workplace arrangements and
our plan, which was only targeted for the public service
in camera life, has been able to crowd into a
scare campaign, which is not what it was intended. And
as we've said before, we will make sure that we
can help families and Betsy Jackie what our positive plan
of getting our country back on tracks met.
Speaker 2 (03:08):
So that backtrack leaves a twenty four billion dollar hole
in their proposed budget, so will they be able to
fund health and other spending promises. We'll look at this
with Donald to Mayo later and the leaders Peter Dutton
and Anthony Albanesi will go head to head tonight in
the first election debate. And finally, King Charles and Queen
Camilla have arrived in Rome and they're beginning the estate
(03:29):
visit to Italy. The visit will see a mix of
soft power diplomacy greeting the crowds and also a bit
of romance because the trip coincides with the couple's twentieth
wedding anniversary.
Speaker 7 (03:39):
It's interesting thinking about the King's reign actually that since
he took to the throne he has now done state
visits to France, to Germany and to Italy, all of
them reinforcing relationships with these major powers in Europe.
Speaker 2 (03:55):
It's ten out five Andrew Dickens foll Afili edition with
one roof make Your Property Search Simple Youth Dog Zibby.
So property developers are excited because there's going to be
a big sell off of social housing just been announced.
Kayinger Aura have said it plans to sell nine hundred
state homes from July this year until June next year,
(04:16):
early an estimate of four hundred to five hundred million dollars.
Of those, about three hundred are in Auckland. It's been
described as a gold mine for developers as it includes
property in some established suburbs. And I know this because
I grew up in a social housing neighborhood in Leefield. Remuerra. Yes, Remuerra,
places like Harpua Road and Liga Street all full of
(04:38):
state houses. They were pockets of what of government housing
because in the day, those governments believed in what's called
pepper potting, mixing the wealthy and the poor and so
avoiding ghettos and promoting social unity. So we had some
social houses amongst the mansions. Now they're selling the social
houses and that is a good thing. If you look
(04:58):
at the properties, there are three Betty basic rectangles on
masses of land. The land is the value and because
of its position, the land is through the roof. Now
the modern view sees, of course, we could build seven
town houses on that land that currently hosts just one dwelling.
So there will be some who bemoan the loss of
one social house and the profit of a developer. But
(05:21):
their trick about all of this is the capital gain.
The government realizes that money needs to be ring fenced
so it pays for more social housing to replace the
one house they're selling. If it all disappears into the
consolidated funds, then we've all been ripped off. If the
government plays this with a straight bat, this will not
only be a windfall for developers, but also a windfall
(05:43):
for those who need social housing. Andrew dickens it's twelve
after five, so the tariff wars continue. Trump's warning of
extra tariffs on China this morning if they retaliate. Meanwhile,
the American public is running around trying to learn economics
one oh one, so much so that sixty minutes on
the telly this week is running at tariff prim Hey, listen,
(06:05):
tariff is a tax or a foreign country.
Speaker 8 (06:08):
That's the way it is, whether you like it, and
that a lot of people like to say, oh, it's
a tax or US.
Speaker 3 (06:12):
No, no, no, it's a tax on a foreign country.
It's a tax on a country that's ripping us off
and stealing our jobs.
Speaker 9 (06:21):
But most any importer or economist will tell you the
President is mistaken. Tariffs are not a tax on a
foreign country. The tax is paid by the importer. In
the United States, for example, Walmart imports goods from China,
and when those goods cross into the United States, Walmart
(06:44):
pays the tariff. If Walmart decides to pass the cost
to consumers, then you paid the tariff, not China.
Speaker 2 (06:52):
And that's the thing. The tariffs are like a sales
tax on American consumers. That means tariffs are inflacing me here.
We would call that non tradable inflation. It's a bit
like rates and power bills. It's inflation that you can't
control it. It can't trade, it can't go down in America.
It's going up. And when inflation breaks out in America,
(07:13):
it breaks out around the globe, which interests US and
me today because our Reserve Bank is reviewing their settings
on Wednesday about our interest rates and if there are
vestiges of inflation hanging around the globe, the talk is
that the big interest rates cuts are going to be
off the table. So you see, this whole thing brings
us all together. It is five fourteen. So we've heard
(07:36):
stories about guys who lose an election and they go
into the public sphere and look at that all of
a sudden, they become a lobbyist because they've been a
minister for the Crown. They've learned all sorts of things,
They've got all sorts of contexts, you know, their phoneus
full of numbers and they go right, I can actually
monetize this and they end out lobbying. Now, how quickly
should they be allowed to do that? There's a new
group who are rathering against all of this, and I'll
(07:58):
talk about this and what they want in just a
few mothers time. It's News Talks at.
Speaker 1 (08:02):
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Early edition with Andrew Dickens and One Room, Make Your
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Speaker 2 (08:13):
It's sixteen alf to five. So a group calling themselves
Level the playing field rallying against New Zealand's lobbying regulations
and they're calling for more transparency. Former Prime Minister Helen
Clark and former Attorney General Chris Finlson where some of
the speakers at the campaign launch last night. They're calling
for stronger lobbying regulations, a cooling off period to prevent
(08:34):
former ministers from immediately becoming lobbyists, and a tightening of
political donation rules. So Health Coalition arterio's co chairperson Boyd
Swimburn and joins me now goodbody to your board.
Speaker 10 (08:46):
Andrew.
Speaker 2 (08:47):
So you held the launch party last night. What were
the headlines that came out of it.
Speaker 10 (08:51):
Well, those sort of things that you said, We recognize
the problem that we have with exious and influence on
public policy is at the moment two dominated or has
been for some years by vested interest by commercial interests,
and those groups that are pushing for the common goods
for social outcomes, health outcomes, environmental outcomes really don't get
(09:15):
to say. So this is the sort of the playing
field that needs to be leveled. Nothing wrong with lobbying
so long as it's in balance and we get a
public policy for public good, not for private good. So
there's a fair consensus building around the need for lobbying laws.
You know, New Zealand has no lobbying regulations, makes us
(09:36):
an outlier in OECD countries, and so we need lobbying regulations.
We need a whole bunch of things to try to
strengthen democracy.
Speaker 2 (09:47):
The fact that you had a former labor politician having Clerk,
and a former national politician Chris Finnison there speaking on
the issue, does this mean this issue has bipartisan support.
Speaker 10 (09:57):
Well, it has to have bipartisan supporter Scott. It's an
issue which cuts across the political spectrum. We also had
Antolli there, who's the formal National Minister as well. We're
not going to get progress on this unless both main
parties at least are on board and see this slide
that were having and trust in government. The Transparency International
(10:22):
figures show that New New Zealand's corruption index we used
to be top of the world and now we're sliding
down each year. We need to rebuild that and get
trust back in government.
Speaker 2 (10:33):
And you and your coalition Health Coalition or you actually
got into the views. You called on New Zealand first
to come clean due to the Associate Minister of Health
Casey Costello's links to tobacco giants. So this is your motivation.
Would this sort of regulation stop that?
Speaker 10 (10:47):
Well, it's not going to be one our magic bullet.
There's a whole bunch of things we need to do
to retrieve our our democracy and make it a fair
playing field. But yes, in health where we have tobacco, alcohol,
whole and unhealthy food. These things cause a third of
the health damage in this country and yet we have
(11:07):
not been able to get policies through successive governments because
of the pressure of lobbying and so we really need
that to improve our health.
Speaker 2 (11:18):
So can I just ask, very briefly, what's the coalition
government saying? Are they on board?
Speaker 10 (11:23):
Well, now that we've had the launch, we're going to
be taking this around to the governments and to the
opposition parties as well, because as you said, this needs
to be across parties. The Attorney General, Paul Goldsmith has
had some lobbying regulations and reports on it on his
desk for some time, so we want to be able
(11:45):
to put this stronger case to him. He's had this
report about a voluntary code for lobbyists, but that's not
nearly strong enough. I need a whole raft of things.
Speaker 2 (11:56):
Boyd swinburn I thank you that as Professor Boyd Swinburne,
who is the Royal Health Coalition co chairperson, I need
to I don't know, but there we are. It is
five point twenty. The police have to be involved when
you're committing a mental health patient. The police find this
a huge train on resources. Back in November they announce
(12:17):
some policies to withdraw. How is that going and how
can we move forward with it? Lance Bidett, the famous
negotiator from the Police's Next.
Speaker 1 (12:26):
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It'd be It is five twenty three now. The Mental
Health Foundations launched a petition calling for police to stop
its plan to scale back attendance at mental health call outs.
A police, of course, say they're spending too much time
escorting voluntary patients between hospitals and emergency departments and they
want to fight crime. Former police officer and mental health
advocate Lance Burdett has worken up early for us. Good
(12:55):
morning to your Lance, Good morning here. So how much
time on an eight hour shift for an average cop
has spent on mental health callouts, Well, it can.
Speaker 11 (13:04):
Be quite a bit of time. And it's not just
me a matter of transporting them. The way it was
done was there was also a sergeant had to be
following that patrol, so it took quite a bit of time. Now,
by the very term mental health crisis, which is what
these people are going through is mental health, so they
have a health issue. They're not criminals.
Speaker 5 (13:24):
Now.
Speaker 11 (13:24):
In the early days when I joined the police, the
only way to get them help and support was to
risk them and they put them in a police cell.
Now and somebody who's going through a mental health crisis,
the last thing they needed to be put into a
police cell. Okay, not a great place for them.
Speaker 2 (13:37):
Police launch phase one of a reduction program on November
the fourth of Mental Health Foundation. I'm not happy about it.
I want to ask the question are police already scaling
back these operations because I heard the Minister Matt Doucy
on Ryan Bridges show last night and he seemed a
little unsure of that.
Speaker 11 (13:52):
As far as I know, Well, where ever possible, they
will be scaling back. And it's what they've done anyway.
They've always rereharshed it, so they will only go to
people who are a real genuine crisis where they might
have been causing violence. But again, you know, I do
know of one particular occasion where a taser had to
be used on somebody. Now, I mean, that's just in humane,
(14:15):
isn't it That you can't negotiate with these people. You
can't because they're going through a crisis state, and oftentimes
when you turn up in your police uniform, that just
makes it worse.
Speaker 2 (14:26):
So mental health crisis teams are already stretched for resources
and now the police are wanting to pull back. If
not police, then who ambulance service?
Speaker 11 (14:38):
That's their role is transporting patients? Isn't it mental health?
The health patients? So what needs to have at mention
of that?
Speaker 2 (14:44):
So, what needs to happen to enable the ambulance crews
or the ambulance services to have enough resources to cope
with the extra workload.
Speaker 11 (14:52):
Well, they do have transport services already.
Speaker 10 (14:56):
Now.
Speaker 11 (14:56):
The reason why I say this, and I hate to
say it, because I know that they're of the pump,
probably worse than the police are to be frank and
it's not a fully funded service. That the ambulance service
need to be fully funded by government to do this work.
Speaker 2 (15:11):
Lance, I thank you for your work, Lance, author, former
police officer, a mental health advocate, and it is our
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News Talks ab So the news that New Zealand is
going to spend twelve billion dollars on defenses not news
to welcome, and yet it is also welcome news, and
this is because it highlights the state of the planet
it's an unsetled world, and in an unsettled world, defense
is essential and the equation for a credible defense is
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spending two percent of GDP. Now, within eight years we'll
get to that target. It's a doubling of the budget.
And the question is why are we only just doing
this now. If we've been spending close to that for
the past thirty years, we wouldn't be facing so dramatic
a spend today. But we didn't. We were fat and
complacent in a mistaken belief that we were safe and
(16:12):
sound and if something went wrong, our friends would come
and save us. Now we have China knocking on our
door and sailing in our seas. For as long as
I've been in the news business, which is over thirty
years now, Australia and the States have warned that our
coke tailing did not cut it, and we had to
do our bit, maybe not have fighter jets, but at
least something. So fair play to Judith Collins. She's finally
(16:33):
accepting the responsibility that we've always needed to take. But
this comes at a difficult time. Firstly, of course, the
world has become more dangerous, so time is of the
essence and Secondly, we're broke, and it comes at a
time when barely reported mass redundancies are actually happening in
defense to meet government spending targets. So with this move
they have announced. With this move, basically they are firing
(16:58):
at the moment on one hand and they're going to
employ with another. Now on it, you can argue that
both the firing and the spending are both necessary, and
they're necessary because we've sat in our hands for so long,
and they're necessary because we have spent irresponsibly. Andrew Dickens,
it's five point twenty nine. Peter Dutton's made a very
(17:19):
embarrassing you turn in the election campaign. He's not going
to fire public servants because the public servants rebelled, and
now he's got a twenty four billion dollar hole at
his budget. Donald Tomao is joining us. We're going right
around the country as well, and we'll talk defense before
six here on Early Edition with Andrew Dickinson for Brian
Bridge on News Talk ZBB.
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I'm Andrew Dickens and for Ryan Bridge, and this is
a song called as He's on watch Out. It's Ed Sharon.
Ed Shearon is back. Over the weekend he released his
first single from his new album. The new album is
called Play, and this is it as He's as spelled
a z isz am from There's Ed a zz Am.
(18:32):
What the hell is this about? Apparently it's a fasty
phrase that translates to my dear fastly, of course, the
official language of Iran. I have to wonder whether Ed
Shearan is watching the world headlines right now and wondering
whether this was a good marketing move. But I mean
he's Ed Shearan. So the album is going to be
called Play. It'll be the first record in a series
that will include the album's pause, rewind, fast forward and stop.
(18:56):
He's been looking at a tape recorded bad too much.
He's so excited for all the other surprises he has
for us. Maybe that's a tour now. In personal news,
I blew my hand up yesterday. I turned on the
barbecue to make some lunch, and I didn't realize that
the last user of the barbecue, which would be me,
hadn't quite turned the gas off last time he used it,
(19:19):
so I went wandering out there. There was a vestige
of gas under the hood. I didn't realize that hit
the igniter. When I hit the igniter, the lid blew
off and a spurt of super hot gas blasted my
left hand. It was quite a bang, I tell you,
she scared them but Jesus out of me. But the
good thing was it was over in an instant because
the hood snaps shut again. But it has left me
(19:41):
with a somewhat burnt and leathery left hand. No blistering,
just sort of you know, it's sore, and it's the
skin's gone all thick. You know how when you get
a burnt skin goes thick. I blew my hand up
with a barbecue. So just a little public service announcement,
always lift the lids when lighting the barbecue, because you
don't know what fool forgot to completely turn the gas off.
(20:02):
Twenty one to six, it's time to go right around
the country. We go to Dunedin first. Callum Proctor, Good
morning to you morning, Andrew. Tell me the latest on
the fight to prevent South Dunedin from flooding.
Speaker 13 (20:15):
Well, we're at the stage where it's time for the
residents to have a say on all of the different
options that were presented in those two major reports released
last month analyzing the risks facing South dened in the
low lying area. The Danedan City and regional councils here
have come up with seven options to protect the community,
costing up to seven billion dollars. They include keeping the
(20:36):
status quo right through to letting the water in and
a large scale retreat. The program manages Jonathan Rowe. He's
encouraging all residents to attend these workshops and contribute to
the discussions here and the future of South Dnedan. The
first of those public workshops is in South Dunedin today.
Speaker 2 (20:53):
How's the weather tell me? It's not raining, it's.
Speaker 13 (20:55):
Raining and it's heavy and we've got a strong and
strong win heavy rainwatch here. Look the rains to ease
by midday. We've got Gail for Soel West discussing one
hundred k's easing late afternoon the heights today thirteenth.
Speaker 2 (21:07):
All right to christ should we go in clear sure?
With good morning? Good morning? You've got a big fire
in the east.
Speaker 14 (21:12):
Do we ever a big fire at This commercial premises
on Mace's Road in Bromley. It broke out at about
one yesterday afternoon. No one in christ Church would have
missed the huge black plume of smoke that came from that.
Fire crews have been there all night. They're working on
what's still considered a deep seated fire. They certainly have
not risked any firefighters being in the building overnight due
(21:34):
to the darkness, so really, I'm told they've been standing
there spraying water on the building, waiting until first light
when they can assess things. I've been on the phone
with Fire and Emergency shift manager Simon Leiford. He says
a member of the public was taken to hospital overnight
from the scene after turning up and then suffering respiratory
issues due to the smoke. The good news is the
fire is still contained to the one very large building.
(21:56):
Mind you, a fire investigator will look into the cause
of it once it's safe enough to do so. This
place happened after some smoke from controlled burnoffs plagued much
of the city yesterday morning. It was sort of hovering
very low. Simon tells me that's possible again this morning
due to the cooler morning conditions, meaning that smoke hovers
right down close to us.
Speaker 2 (22:15):
Now, how's your weather, Well, we're under.
Speaker 14 (22:17):
The same mornings actually showers from late this morning. Strong
wind watch in place from nine severe gaals gusting one
hundred and twenty kilometers an hour at a high sixteen.
Speaker 2 (22:25):
And I thank you when we go to Wellington now
with Max Tolka, wanting to you Max, good morning. So
the crypto outbreak continues to spread, and we're not talking
the currency, we're talking the milk.
Speaker 5 (22:35):
Yeah, that's right.
Speaker 15 (22:36):
This one has a lot of parents on edge. There
are now sixty cases of this highly contagious parasitic bug
making its way well, firstly in the Hut Valley, now
across the wider region in general, there have been cases
in polyidua carpety wided appa cryptosporidiosis. It's been linked to
a number of swimming pools. A few have had to
completely drain their water and refill. Sixty cases farm more
(23:00):
than usual for this time of the year. The local
medical Officer of Health reckons there are even more in
the community that haven't been picked up yet. Perhaps there
are some who just think they've got food poisoning or something.
Childcare centers are on high alert as it can spread
quite easily among younger children.
Speaker 2 (23:17):
And how's Wellington's weather today?
Speaker 15 (23:19):
Yeah, not great either, the rain strengthening as the morning
goes on. Very strong winds this morning as well high
of eighteenth Central and never writ a.
Speaker 2 (23:26):
Mane who joins me from Walkanhella, Neva.
Speaker 16 (23:28):
Greetings.
Speaker 2 (23:28):
What's the latest and Destiny Church versus the Tiata tu
Public Library.
Speaker 16 (23:32):
Well, I can tell you that Brian Tamaki won't be
charged now this is in relation to the violence that
at a West aalok And library back in February, due
to a lack of evidence. Now we'll remember that the
violence erupted at this is at the Tiata two Peninsula
library after members of the church swarmed in protest of
a family pride event. Now, non profit organization countering Hate
(23:52):
Speech altia at Or alleged that Tarmiki had incited the
disorder via social media. But police, I've had a look
at it. The I've now concluded these insufficient evidence to
charge them following a thorough investigation. But we do remember
too that there were multiple assault charges and they've been
laid against the other people that were allegedly involved.
Speaker 2 (24:11):
House orchards.
Speaker 16 (24:12):
Weather today, well, not as bad as the others. I
can tell you that isolated chills developing. We've got a
period of rain around midday followed by fine spells in
our highs twenty two.
Speaker 2 (24:21):
I thank you need it now seventeen to six more
reaction to the increase in defense spending, and Steve's agitated
about Helen Clarke. He wants me to ask Helen Clarke
why spending was cut under her regime. Her naivety was unbelievable.
He says that Helen perpetuated the Peacenik belief that the
world had somehow changed and large wars were a thing
of the past. Yet no one is calling her out
(24:43):
on it, and she continues to pursue to plicate the
larger powers strategy and hope for the best. Yes, Steve, Yeah,
here's the thing about Helen Clark and defense spending. Remember
the laves, the light armored vehicles. We bought a truckload
of laves which were outdated and somewhat unnecessary because I
don't know if you realize we're a maritime country and
(25:05):
you can't go driving these labs all over the sea.
And remember the criticism about this. You can get it
terribly wrong when you're buying kit when you're increasing defense spending,
and that's a warning going forward. We'll talk more on
this before sex with Hayden Ricketts and Hayden as a
retired lieutenant colonel. But next Donald to Maayo from Australia.
Here on Newstalk set.
Speaker 1 (25:25):
B International Correspondence with Ends and Eye Insurance, Peace of
mind for New Zealand business.
Speaker 5 (25:32):
Well to Australia and es.
Speaker 2 (25:33):
Good morning to Donna Tomayo at thirteen minutes to six.
Hi Donna, oh, hello to you. Hello. Now we're one
week into the election campaign and the courliss and Leader
Leader of the Opposition, Peter Dutton, has made a somewhat
embarrassing u turn.
Speaker 12 (25:47):
Yes, it's rather dramatic a policy reversal, let's call it.
Of course, it had planned the coalitionion to sack forty
one thousand public service employees. It had planned to restrict
work from home arrangements. Peter Dutton has admitted he made
a mistake there his words. He also said he got
it wrong. Now the plan had proved really unpopular. This
(26:09):
is a policy that was going to have a mandated
minimum number of days in the office, that is five
days a week. While who wasn't a popular with well
among women, for starters working families. Well, they've come to
rely on these flexible work arrangements, as we know. So
the Coalition now says it will rely on natural attrition
and those sackings will no longer happen. And Dutton is
(26:30):
now professing that and these are his words. We're listening
to what people say. We've also heard from the Prime
Minister who says no one believes Peter Dutton has changed
his mind. He believes that Dutton will rip up those
flexible work arrangements the minute if he does get the chance.
Speaker 2 (26:46):
Yes, well, Jim Charmer's the Treasures in fact been calling
Peter Dutton, Doji Dutton other elon mush which Turner phrase.
Problem of course with the coalition that leaves a twenty
four billion dollar hole in their funding plan and they
wanted to use that on health than other spending.
Speaker 12 (27:00):
So yeah, how are they going to pay for the
range of policies.
Speaker 2 (27:04):
That's right, it's true. Meanwhile, Pauline Hanson is hiring in house.
Speaker 12 (27:09):
Oh gosh, well we know that she's a very very
controversial figure in Australian politics. Point Hanson of One Nation
fame has enlisted her daughter Lee to carry on One
Nation's influence in parliament. As she's put it, she denies nepotism,
saying well her three sons aren't up to the job.
She says, I wouldn't have any of my sons in parliament.
(27:30):
This is about qualifications, not nepotism. So forty one year
old Lee, who has just been a newly announced Senate
candidate for Tasmania, also commented about her brothers and said, yes,
you know she does mean that, but we know that Hanson.
Senator Hanson is seventy years old, so she's nearing retirement
aged of course, and she's saying her time in politics
(27:52):
is coming to an end and she wants people to
carry carry on or her legacy. As she put it,
there you go.
Speaker 2 (28:00):
Retirement is a state of mind, not an age. Can
I just remind you.
Speaker 12 (28:05):
This is what there were, this is what pundits have
been observing about Hags and that's all.
Speaker 2 (28:10):
I don't tend to.
Speaker 12 (28:11):
Note people's ages as you may.
Speaker 2 (28:13):
Be as you get older, you tend to do that less.
It is eleven to six New stoksb Coundre Dickens. All right,
the government has announced a mass of twelve billion dollar
investment in defense over the next four years. Nine billion
of it is completely new, with a plan to lift
defense spending to more than two percent of GDP in
the next eight years. It comes as we've seen all
(28:33):
this activity from China. They've launched an into ballistic missile
in the Pacific last year, hastling the jetstar planes. We
had three Chinese warships sailing off the coast of Sydney
a couple of months ago. So retired Lieutenant Colonel Hayden
Ricketts joins me, good morning to your Hayden.
Speaker 8 (28:49):
Good morning, Andrew, how are you?
Speaker 5 (28:50):
I'm good.
Speaker 2 (28:50):
This is a record spend and it's overdue, isn't it.
Speaker 10 (28:54):
I think it is.
Speaker 8 (28:55):
I congratulate the government on what is really a step
change for defense spending over the past thirty five years
or sorry, twelve billion dollar commitment to increase spending over
the next four years. That's absolutely massive. But our observation
around the whole plan is that it's great to see
some new tins, some new ships for Navy, to aircraft Reirforce,
(29:16):
and some armored vehicles and things for army. But what
this misses the mark on is the people component parts.
Holiness was identified as a really contributing factor in the
sinking of the MONEYMNUI, and I don't see where in
the Defense Capability Plan the link between that holiness and
how the DCP is going to address the gaps and
the key skills and trades in the defense walls at
(29:37):
the moment.
Speaker 2 (29:38):
Indeed, as Little reported that in fact, the Defense Force
is going through a major restructure right now because of
the attack on government spending, and so there are in
fact hundreds of people being laid off, but they're in
the middle of a process right now, so their morale
is already low, but now they're being told, actually, now
you're getting more money. So it's a confusing situation, it is.
Speaker 8 (29:56):
I think it's a really good signal that the government
is sending to our international and our partners. I think
that you might have seen a little graph that they
come up with the pressure Reason for your listeners. It's
a graph sort of between nineteen eighty showing defense spending
decreasing from three percent of GDP down to one percent,
so at the moment and then almost like a complete
U turn back up to two percent over the east
(30:18):
eight years. That graph is going to brief beautifully in
capitals all around the world and especially in the White House.
But I think, in realistic terms, can the government afford
to do this? I'm not convinced. Cynically. We've seen twenty
billion dollars invested or stated investment in twenty sixteen in
the DCP, another fourteen million sort of fourteen billion in
(30:40):
defense and DCP nineteen and now another signal of a
huge investment. But these investments get promised, but they don't
get delivered on.
Speaker 2 (30:47):
But here's the other thing. I mean, you're talking the money,
but it's not about the money.
Speaker 5 (30:49):
It's the kit.
Speaker 2 (30:50):
And if you buy the wrong kit, you can waste
that money really quickly. I talked about the light armored
vehicles that Health and Clark bought for um piece work,
when really a lot of people at the time a argue,
maybe you should be buying a boat.
Speaker 10 (31:02):
Well, you're right.
Speaker 8 (31:03):
So Army has got a lot of those light armored
equals that are not being cruised. Some of the new
bush Masters have bought a lot of those equals that
are still not being full of utilized. Navy's got ships
tied up despite the factor of the loss of the moneymenting,
and I think air Force has got more aircraft at
the moment that they can comfortably crew. A commitment to
spend more money on more gear is great, but without
(31:24):
the personnel component part of that to support it in behind,
the whole plan just sort of starts to fall apart.
Speaker 2 (31:29):
Hayden Ricketts, I thank you for your service, and I
thank you for your time this morning that as Hayden
here has retarded Lieutenant Colonel and its news talk to
me and it's seven to.
Speaker 1 (31:36):
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It's early edition with Andrew Dickens and one roof make
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Speaker 5 (31:46):
Talks they'd be.
Speaker 2 (31:47):
So it's Hayden Rickets said, we've got this, We've got
the money, where do we find the staff? And as
I say, we've got the money, but what kit do
we buy? Because that's that's the critical segment it comes
to defense, because you could go and buy some lemons,
you could buy some second stuff that fall out of
the air Can I mention the seven five seven for instance?
So we could blow this to our billion just like
that text through saying even some of the SAS guys
(32:08):
have had to buy additions to their equipment personally back
in the day. And that's our defense force, ladies and gentlemen.
And this is Mike Husking, good morning.
Speaker 17 (32:17):
I felt good about yesterday in that join the world
type vibe.
Speaker 2 (32:21):
You know it's been.
Speaker 17 (32:21):
Two percent to be GDP and stuff like that. Three
ships we have, yeah, well yeah, apparently five don't. Well
we don't at the moment because we don't know that
because they're tied up because we don't have the staff.
So that's one of the big issues. So they talked
about that yesterday. That's in the budget. The salary money
is in the budget, which is separate to what they
were announcing yesterday, and there's a lot of drones and
(32:42):
a lot of that personalless tech ithance.
Speaker 2 (32:45):
Lethality is the headline day.
Speaker 17 (32:47):
First time you've ever heard that. Yeah, I've never heard
lethality before as a word. But anyway, we're going to
have more of it as a result, and the Australians
love us, and the world will love us, and the
whole world's change again. So we're sort of joining the
big boys club. My only hope is that it's one
of those things that stays the because if you get
the Greens and labor and power, you've got to wonder
whether they're pro guns and military and fighting and conflict
(33:08):
and stuff like that.
Speaker 2 (33:09):
Anyway, David Parker was actually on the Telly On on
the weekend and he seemed good year.
Speaker 17 (33:14):
But David Parker is not always aligned with the Labour
Party from my experience, you know what I'm saying. Anyway,
So Ron Mark, who was a defense minister, Judith Collins,
who is a defense minister, is going.
Speaker 2 (33:22):
To be with a song. You are a defense minister,
do you have to have fired a gun?
Speaker 17 (33:26):
It's a very good question, but that's applicable to every
single portfolio. If you're the broadcasting minister, do you ever
have to have hosted a radio show?
Speaker 2 (33:33):
So the answer is.
Speaker 17 (33:34):
No, she said fumbling up in the press conference yesterday.
She said at the end of it, it's been a
big learning curve for me. So good on at for
saying that's the answer is probably she didn't get any
good program.
Speaker 2 (33:45):
Yeah, remember that picture of Judith with the hemp.
Speaker 17 (33:47):
Very much and she's with us this morning.
Speaker 2 (33:50):
Good take you to producer Ken think my name's Andrew Dickins.
I'm back again tomorrow.
Speaker 5 (33:55):
Have a great day.
Speaker 1 (34:06):
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