Minimal progress in another round of peace talks between Russia and Ukraine.
The two countries have agreed, in Istanbul, to exchange sick and wounded prisoners of war, and those under 25.
Meanwhile, Ukraine's carried out drone strikes on several Russian air bases.
BBC's Olga Ivshina says even the loss of one plane is significant, as Russia can't replicate it quickly.
She told Ryan Bridge Russia has also launched attacks.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Ukraine and Russia have the meeting an Istanbul. They've agreed
for more prisoner of prisoners of war to be exchanged,
to be swapped. It's good news, but at the same
time you've got Ukraine bombing the hell and joining the
hell drone bombing the hell out of some pretty significant
infrastructure for Russia. Olga if Shina is a BBC senior
(00:20):
Russia reporter with us this morning. Oga, Hello, welcome to
the show. Hello, thank you so much, good to have
you back. Tell me what's happening. First with the prisoner exchange.
Speaker 2 (00:31):
Yeah, they agreed on a quite big prisoner swap. It's actually,
it seems so far. First of all six thousand bodies
in exchange for six thousand dead bodies. Secondly, it's exchange
of your all young prisoners of war at the age
between eighteen and twenty five. And hopefully it's also exchange
of all severely wounded personnel. So possibly it's not. Definitely
(00:58):
it's not happening in the next few days. So they
agreed to continue to talk about this, to establish medical commissions,
negotiating groups to agree on exact lists of people. So
possibly it will happen in a few stages as we
have seen in the previous round of exchanges. But yeah,
there is at least something going on, but unfortunately it's
(01:20):
not bringing us any closer to the end of hostilities,
any closer to the end of this war.
Speaker 1 (01:26):
No, And let's talk about that. The Western media is
reporting that a sizable portion of the fleet that Moscow
would used to launch guided missile attacks on Ukraine but
also attacks potentially nuclear attacks on other countries, that they
were damaged or destroyed by these Ukrainian attacks over the weekend.
(01:47):
Is that true? How significant is this for Russia?
Speaker 2 (01:52):
Well, definitely, the loss even of one strategic bomber is
very significant because at the moment Russia is not able
to replicate it quickly, so even one plane, loss of
one plane is very significant. So Ukraine claims it targeted
I think six air bases. The footage. Air footage confirms
definitely that at least two air bases were hit, possibly
(02:16):
up to forty different planes. Russian mood has confirmed that
several planes were hait. Ukraine says around forty. So you know,
from the verified footage we can see at least a
few planes, definitely more than five. But as I said,
even though loss of one plane is important, but I
think it's also important to underline it's not just Ukraine
striking Russia. You know, Russia has launched a tremendous amount
(02:38):
of at rockhead and also drawne attacks on Ukraine in
the recent days and weeks, So it's not just one side.
It Both sides have increased the number of strikes on
each other's territory.
Speaker 1 (02:53):
Does yeah, you're absolutely right, but this does a strike
like this put Persian in some kind of corner? Does
it make molash out?
Speaker 2 (03:02):
It's a good question. But to answer that, you need
to answer the question whether Russians, especially outside of Moscow
know about this tribe, because, of course State TV is
not talking about it in a great detail. Of course,
mold Russian mood is downplaying the scale of losses. And
also we see that, you know, apart from some big cities,
(03:24):
the population tries to shield off the news about the
invasion because they are very tired and they try to
perceive their own lives. So do people know about that?
You know, that's that's a big, big question. And Putting
doesn't care that much about his image in the West.
He's pretty happy with the with the imager he has
already produced, and internally, you know, not that many people
(03:46):
possibly have noticed it at the you know, because it's
more than three years of invasion now, right. But I
think what is important is that, Yeah, of course, internationally
Putting does look not as bright as strong as he
would like to be. Of course, it's a hit for
Russian security service, especially domestic security face beat, from which
(04:08):
mister Putin sort of tracks, you know, where he used
to serve many years ago. So yeah, it's a definitely
big hit for his ego, but not for the morale
of the Russian population on the whole.
Speaker 1 (04:22):
Interesting IgA, always good to speak with you, Thank you
very much. Og If Shina the BABC Same Russia reporter with.
Speaker 2 (04:27):
Us for more from early edition with Ryan Bridge.
Speaker 1 (04:31):
Listen live to News Talks.
Speaker 2 (04:32):
It'd be from five am weekdays, or follow the podcast
on iHeartRadio.
Ukraine and Russia have the meeting an Istanbul. They've agreed
for more prisoner of prisoners of war to be exchanged,
to be swapped. It's good news, but at the same
time you've got Ukraine bombing the hell and joining the
hell drone bombing the hell out of some pretty significant
infrastructure for Russia. Olga if Shina is a BBC senior
(00:20):
Russia reporter with us this morning. Oga, Hello, welcome to
the show. Hello, thank you so much, good to have
you back. Tell me what's happening. First with the prisoner exchange.
Speaker 2 (00:31):
Yeah, they agreed on a quite big prisoner swap. It's actually,
it seems so far. First of all six thousand bodies
in exchange for six thousand dead bodies. Secondly, it's exchange
of your all young prisoners of war at the age
between eighteen and twenty five. And hopefully it's also exchange
of all severely wounded personnel. So possibly it's not. Definitely
(00:58):
it's not happening in the next few days. So they
agreed to continue to talk about this, to establish medical commissions,
negotiating groups to agree on exact lists of people. So
possibly it will happen in a few stages as we
have seen in the previous round of exchanges. But yeah,
there is at least something going on, but unfortunately it's
(01:20):
not bringing us any closer to the end of hostilities,
any closer to the end of this war.
Speaker 1 (01:26):
No, And let's talk about that. The Western media is
reporting that a sizable portion of the fleet that Moscow
would used to launch guided missile attacks on Ukraine but
also attacks potentially nuclear attacks on other countries, that they
were damaged or destroyed by these Ukrainian attacks over the weekend.
(01:47):
Is that true? How significant is this for Russia?
Speaker 2 (01:52):
Well, definitely, the loss even of one strategic bomber is
very significant because at the moment Russia is not able
to replicate it quickly, so even one plane, loss of
one plane is very significant. So Ukraine claims it targeted
I think six air bases. The footage. Air footage confirms
definitely that at least two air bases were hit, possibly
(02:16):
up to forty different planes. Russian mood has confirmed that
several planes were hait. Ukraine says around forty. So you know,
from the verified footage we can see at least a
few planes, definitely more than five. But as I said,
even though loss of one plane is important, but I
think it's also important to underline it's not just Ukraine
striking Russia. You know, Russia has launched a tremendous amount
(02:38):
of at rockhead and also drawne attacks on Ukraine in
the recent days and weeks, So it's not just one side.
It Both sides have increased the number of strikes on
each other's territory.
Speaker 1 (02:53):
Does yeah, you're absolutely right, but this does a strike
like this put Persian in some kind of corner? Does
it make molash out?
Speaker 2 (03:02):
It's a good question. But to answer that, you need
to answer the question whether Russians, especially outside of Moscow
know about this tribe, because, of course State TV is
not talking about it in a great detail. Of course,
mold Russian mood is downplaying the scale of losses. And
also we see that, you know, apart from some big cities,
(03:24):
the population tries to shield off the news about the
invasion because they are very tired and they try to
perceive their own lives. So do people know about that?
You know, that's that's a big, big question. And Putting
doesn't care that much about his image in the West.
He's pretty happy with the with the imager he has
already produced, and internally, you know, not that many people
(03:46):
possibly have noticed it at the you know, because it's
more than three years of invasion now, right. But I
think what is important is that, Yeah, of course, internationally
Putting does look not as bright as strong as he
would like to be. Of course, it's a hit for
Russian security service, especially domestic security face beat, from which
(04:08):
mister Putin sort of tracks, you know, where he used
to serve many years ago. So yeah, it's a definitely
big hit for his ego, but not for the morale
of the Russian population on the whole.
Speaker 1 (04:22):
Interesting IgA, always good to speak with you, Thank you
very much. Og If Shina the BABC Same Russia reporter with.
Speaker 2 (04:27):
Us for more from early edition with Ryan Bridge.
Speaker 1 (04:31):
Listen live to News Talks.
Speaker 2 (04:32):
It'd be from five am weekdays, or follow the podcast
on iHeartRadio.
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