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June 9, 2025 • 34 mins

On the Early Edition with Ryan Bridge Full Show Podcast Tuesday 10th of June 2025, a new report has found our corruption-free nation is at odds with evidence, Ryan Bridge asks Customs Minister Casey Costello what difference the Government can make. 

The Government's investing $13.5 million in tourism, Rotorua Mayor Tania Tapsell shares her thoughts. 

Plus NZ Rugby Boss Mark Robinson calls it quits, Simon Port Managing Director and Rugby Player agent for Halo Sport, tells Ryan Bridge what skills the new CEO needs to bring to NZ Rugby. 

Ryan shares his thoughts on Greta Thunberg's aid boat being intercepted by the Israelis. 

Plus Australia Correspondent Donna Demaio has the latest on the Australian PM asked to intervene after an Aussie journalist was hit by a rubber bullet in LA riots.

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
The issues, the interviews and the insight. Ryan Bridge on
an early edition with ex pole insulation, keeping Kimi Holmes
warm and try this winter news talk said, be good morning.

Speaker 2 (00:12):
Welcome to you Tuesday. It's just gone six, half to five.
Great to have your company this morning, Casey Costello just
before six on corruption, there's a new report out saying
we should be more worried about it. Donnod Demayo in
Australia on that reporter hit by a rubber bullet at
the protest in la If you stand between police who
are firing rubber bullets and protesters who are hurtling items

(00:32):
at them, would you not expect to me hit. I
don't know. We'll talk to her about that anyway. In
the reaction in Australia to that, and Mark Robinson, what
next ends it are? Plus tourism, Does anyone believe there's
numbers that you can spend thirteen million dollars on ads
and then somehow get three hundred million dollars back in
tourists spend. We'll ask Tanya tapsle from not to do it.

(00:54):
Shortly seven after five the agenda Tuesday tenth, Joam, we've
got a prisoner swap this morning between Russia and Ukraine.
Photos show emaciated Ukrainian soldiers crying, hugging one another, draped
in their national flag. Only those under twenty five les
seriously wounded have been swapped.

Speaker 3 (01:13):
At least one two hundred prisoners of war will be
exchanged on each side, and today it's not clear how
many were swapped. Both sides have not commented on this,
but they have said that it's the same amount of
military personnel, and the Ukraine's president a lot of Miszelinskis,
said that ukrain has received the first group.

Speaker 2 (01:33):
The protests in La continue overnight that has been casted
on fire Newsom's the California governor suing Trump's White House
for sending in the National Guard.

Speaker 4 (01:41):
Deploying federalized troops is a dangerous escalation. But we need
to be real about this. This is about another agenda.
It's not about public safety. There's clearly no plan and
there is clearly no policy.

Speaker 2 (01:56):
Trump's hays go away Las cop this up and they
need help. We see danger to our country and to
our citizens.

Speaker 5 (02:03):
Will be very very strong in terms of.

Speaker 3 (02:04):
Law and order.

Speaker 2 (02:06):
Greta Thunberg Thunburg, whatever on our way, to Israel now,
where she'll be deported back to Sweden after trying to
reach Gaza.

Speaker 6 (02:15):
We don't know exactly what will happen to the activists
when they arrive. The latest reports in the Israeli media
say they'll be put into the custody of the police
and the Israeli government. The Israeli authorities posentially said they
wanted to port them as quickly as possible.

Speaker 2 (02:29):
She's so annoying, isn't she.

Speaker 1 (02:30):
Eight after five, the first word on the News of
the Day early edition with Ryan Bridge and Expole Insulation
keeping Kiwi Holmes warm and dry this winter news talk
said be We've.

Speaker 2 (02:43):
Got quarter one GDP data out next week, which is
just so exciting I can barely contain myself. But what's
it going to say? We know that we went up
last time. This is the December quarter point seven percent.
We've got new numbers from stets n Z on quarter one.
So this kind of starts to paint a picture. One
is on jobs and the other is on business sales

(03:04):
and purchases and profit. So just running through very quickly
through the job's numbers, because it's quite interesting. This is
basically filled jobs. People working for quarter one twenty twenty five,
it's down slightly zero point one percent. Construction down one
point four percent, unsurprising, Manufacturing down half a percent. Accommodation

(03:26):
and food that's your cafes and restaurants up er point
five percent. That's good, they need that. But basically jobs
going backwards for the fourth quarter in a row, so
that makes a whole year where filled jobs have gone backwards. However,
quarter one twenty five less worse than the previous three quarters,

(03:47):
and we've had a total net loss of thirty nine
thousand jobs over the last year in this country. So basically,
things not great, but things getting less worse than they
were over the last few months. Interesting here also earnings
by industry. The largest increases in gross earnings might surprise you.

(04:09):
This is for the year ending March, so it's year
on year versus March twenty four. Healthcare and social assistance
up four point four percent, So the health work is congratulations.
Education and training up four point seven percent, Public administration
and safety what up four percent. Those are the biggest

(04:29):
rises under a national government. I guess you could argue
that those pay changes might have been offered or put
in place prior to National getting into office, because that
would seem an unusual concoction or collection of industries to
have at the top of your list. It is eleven
after five. We'll get to the business data a little
later on. It is eleven alfter five year on News
Talk set B, what are we doing next tourism? Honestly,

(04:53):
how can you come out and say with a straight
face you're going to spend thirteen million dollars on an
advertising campaign and how get three hundred million dollars back?
Tanya taps on next on your.

Speaker 1 (05:06):
Radio and online on Iheard Radio Early edition with Ryan
Bridge and ex full insulation, keeping Kiwi Holmes warm and
dry this winter news talks.

Speaker 2 (05:16):
That'd be good morning as five thirteen. I hope you're
keeping warm. Simon Porter, the player agent, on Mark Robinson's
resignation from Men's at are next right now another taxpayer
tourism marketing blitz from Upston and Luxon, proudly announcing that
yesterday thirteen point five million dollars of ads will apparently
get US an extra three hundred million dollars in tourism spending.

(05:38):
The advertising will target the Aussi's, Americans and the Chinese
Tannia Tapsles that also have a met with me this morning. Tiana,
good morning, good morning. Good to have you on the show.
Do you buy this, by the way, do you because
we had a blitz on Australia a couple of months ago,
have you seen any evidence that that's worked.

Speaker 7 (05:54):
Yes, Actually it's been quite fantastic for us in Littlesdere,
we're top tourism destination. But you know, we forget that
only a couple of years ago the borders were closed
and it takes some time to actually get the visitors back.
And I do appreciate that Australia, China and North America
are target areas as well. So I know it seems
quite extravagant that thirteen point five million will get three

(06:18):
hundred million dollars in spending, but we need to remember
tourism is very competitive and we are a small country
at the bottom of the world. This sort of investment
does make sure that we get our visitors into the country.

Speaker 2 (06:29):
I don't doubt you want it, but the question is
do you believe it?

Speaker 8 (06:33):
Yeah?

Speaker 7 (06:34):
Well, I've actually had the pleasure of meeting Trops and
New Zealand stuff in both China and Australia during recent visits.
And actually, yeah I do, because even like the Chinese visitors,
their average spend is six thousand dollars when they do
come here. That's why they are a target market for us.
They're very high spender. And so yeah, I do because

(06:56):
actually a lot of these ads that they see plants
the seed for them to come to New Zealand. But
what we want to do is actually create that action.
And I'm quite excited for what these additional investment and
advertising will do for us.

Speaker 2 (07:08):
Yeah, okay, interesting. Mike is going to look at this
little later on in his program. Tanya, what about I've
been reading the lots of or daily post, great newspaper,
the story about bums on the main street, urinating, defecating,
doing drug stuff like that. That's hardly a good look
for terrorism, is it.

Speaker 7 (07:24):
N And unfortunately this is something that's been experienced across
the country. But actually, what we've discovered is there's different
ways to help people. So these people were choosing to
sleep on a certain street because they were getting through meals,
they were getting hot drinks, they were getting lots of
things dropped off to them. So actually we need to
make sure that when we do help people and need

(07:46):
in it's a way that's enabling them to actually make
the right thing, because these people do have a choice
to go somewhere other than our streets.

Speaker 2 (07:53):
Because the sallies were giving them free mile oh and
stuff like that. So you reckon they should stop that.

Speaker 7 (07:58):
Stop the handouts, well, just in an appropriate place, because
camping out on a footpath in the middle of the
city is not an appropriate place.

Speaker 2 (08:06):
Not a good look for you? Is that for Tan?
You appreciate your time this morning, Tonia tapsle is thet
do a meha, she's buying it, she's drinking the call
aid this morning? Sixteen after are you nine two nine
two sixteen after five? Ryan, how do you know that
the reporter, this is the one in la says Graham.
How do you know the reporter was between the police
and the protests And did you see the policeman turn
aim and fire at her? Graham, Yes, I did see

(08:29):
the policeman do that. But is the policeman meant to
check you know, if you were in a rioter protest
a situation. I'm not saying that's the right thing that
the National Guard's gone in there, but I'm just saying,
if you're in a situation like that and you see
a person come towards you, which she did. She was
moving with their camera. How are you to know whether
that's a I suppose that's your job. And another one

(08:52):
here from Clive Morning Ryan, such great news. First thing
this morning that Greta the activist is getting her butt kicked.
She annoys me too. We'll talk about that a little later.
And then he club also says Trump's sorting out the
illegals and their traitor supporters. I'm not so sure that
that was a smart idea. I mean, what are they
actually going to achieve? And it's a sanctuary city Los Angeles.

(09:12):
By the way, a sanctuary city means that they're basically
softer on undocumented migrants. Are they actually going to change anything,
achieve anything? By sending in the National Guard? Was that
they out of control to begin with? Anyway, we'll have
reaction to Mark Robinson's resignation.

Speaker 1 (09:27):
Next, Views and Views you Trust to start your day.
It's early edition with Ryan Bridge at expol Insulation keeping
Kiwi Holmes warm and dry. This winter News Talk said b.

Speaker 2 (09:39):
Nineteen after five News Talk said, be Ryan, this is
from we just spoke to that ottad a mayor. From
one of our listeners this morning, Norman says, Ryan, I
worked directly across the road from where the homeless people
are camped out in the middle of Dottador, with their mattresses,
the supermarket trolleys, the luggage, the leering attitudes. It's disgusting.
If the mayor was any good, she would move them on.

(10:01):
Bryan bred the number text the big announcement in the
world of rugby The Inded our boss Mark Robinson is
stepping down a CEO. Wants to move back to Australia
with the wife and kids in twenty twenty six. So
what does this mean for the future of New Zealand rugby.
Reaction this morning from Simon Porter, managing director and rugby
player agent for Halo Sports. Simon, good morning, good morning.

Speaker 9 (10:21):
How are you?

Speaker 2 (10:22):
Yeah?

Speaker 7 (10:22):
Good?

Speaker 2 (10:22):
Thank you. Good to have you on the show. Mark
says he said he's left Inded in a better place
than when he found it. Do you agree with that?

Speaker 9 (10:33):
Yeah, I mean I think so.

Speaker 8 (10:36):
I mean it's been a pretty tough six years with COVID.
I think they've made some substantial change around the splitting
of the commercial co with the rest of the rugby operations,
I suppose, and there's two different entities now, and I
guess I mean hopefully it is set up to be

(10:57):
a bit more nimble, little bit more agile as it
moves forward. I think we still the proofs to be
in the pudding a little bit around whether that separation
is going to have the benefits that we all sort
of hope that would when it came in.

Speaker 2 (11:10):
That's the big issue for you, is the separation. And
I mean, do you think they should recouple?

Speaker 4 (11:17):
Ah?

Speaker 8 (11:17):
Well, I think it's pretty clear when Craig Finton left
last year what that was in October or November, and
he still hasn't been replaced. I think it's fairly clear
in my mind that they'll try to set up a
different structure now where, for want of a better term
of group cl come in and we'll sit across both entities.
I think splitting the entities actually makes a lot of

(11:40):
sense just from around their ability to work to different
strategic objectives. Because if you're the commercial operation, then you
are simply wanting to go out and get as much
money as you can. You know, you're looking at your fans,
you're running it as a professional organization like a Manchester
United or any other arge professional sporting body. But when

(12:02):
you're also in the new Zela Rugby Union and you've
got to look after the participant in the community, you
know your touch points and your strategic projectives are quite different.
So being a bit more honest about there and splitting
that into two companies actually makes quite a lot of
sense from the ability to work to different purposes.

Speaker 2 (12:19):
Okay, let's assume that you're right and that this is
a board, this is the direction the board wants to
move and do you think that they I mean, do
whose decision was it for Mark to Goaric?

Speaker 8 (12:29):
Do you think I think it was probably March's decision
to go. I definitely feel that that was the case.
I mean I was dealing with them last week on
an issue and I think it was definitely his decision
to leave. Now, I think the hard bit is that
you know, we've got two boards effectively, and how they're

(12:51):
going to work that if they sort of have that
group CEO. Because when the silver Aid investment was made,
the commercial board or set up and that's where silver
Lake have their representatives on the board. So how they
can resolve you know, the commitments of Made the silver
Lake around board representation and strategic direction with appointing a

(13:14):
group CEO that's going to set across two entities, and
how do those boards work together, et cetera. Like, there's
some big, pretty media issues that I think they need
to work through before they are ready to appoint the
CEO and and you know, announce any sort of new
new structure or way of working.

Speaker 2 (13:32):
Okay, interesting, Simon, I appreciate your thoughts this morning. Simon Porter,
managing director and rugby player agent from Halo Sport. Twenty
three minutes after five Bryant Bridge speaking of companies splitting up, well,
coming together and then splitting off again. This has happened
to my old employer, Warner Brothers Discovery. Their share price
up seven point one three percent this morning, which is

(13:52):
great because they gave me shares when I worked there
and so they'll now be worth more. But they are
splitting the company. So they came together and Warner Brothers Discovery,
now they're going to be basically split back into two
separate businesses, two stand alone publicly traded entertainment companies, separating
HBO Max, which is their streaming service, your movie studios

(14:15):
and your TV productions that goes on one side, and
then your cable networks basically your legacy media on the other,
and that would presumably include TV three New Zealand. They
own the likes of CNN. Ratings for cable networks in
the US have been tanking, particularly on the left. CNN
has been hit hard cannibalized a little bit by MSNBC.

(14:35):
So there's problems over there, and now they're splitting up
the companies so that they can, which is hugely ironic
because it was not that long ago that they all
came together and everything went on hold, and hot businesses
just basically go sideways when they do mergers because no
one makes any decisions for a year prior or a
year after. And now they're going to uncouple themselves because

(14:57):
the share price is tanked something like six sixty percent
over the past year. News Talks AB twenty five After
five Thoughts on Greta.

Speaker 1 (15:06):
Next the early edition full the show podcast on iHeartRadio
Power It by News.

Speaker 2 (15:11):
Talks AB, News Talks MB it has just gone twenty
seven after five. Honestly, it's time Greta to get a grip.
My name is.

Speaker 10 (15:22):
Getha Timber and I am from Sweden. If you see
this video, we have been intercepted and kidnapped, have you?

Speaker 2 (15:29):
This is a stunt. She's sailing on a yacht with
a diesel engine, which they've been using because the sales
haven't been up. By the way, there's been photos and videos.
Greta's doing the Titanic at the bow, Kate Winslet at
the front of the boat on her merciful mission to
save the Middle East on board this vessel that's complete
with aircon and TVs and Instagram.

Speaker 10 (15:49):
I urge all my friends, family and comrades to put
pressure on the Swedish government to release me and the
others as soon as possible.

Speaker 2 (15:59):
Reader, you should have gone home a long time ago.
As for being kidnapped, this must be the first time
the victim has broadcast their own hostage video. How does
that work? It's a tiny yacht. How much aid can
you actually have on board? Anything meaningful? There is no
doubt Palestinians desperately need aid because of Israel's inhumane blockade. Unfortunately,

(16:20):
they're not going to get any from this attention obsessed Swede.
This is the problem I think people have with protesters.
Not the ones who protest and then do something useful,
like become a scientist and an inventors solution to global warming.
That would be helpful. Protesters who protest for the sake
of it and change causes with the wind. One day
it's climate change and oils the devil. The house is

(16:41):
burning down. The next it's powering through the meat on
a diesel laden yacht to rescue Gaza. It's like a
drug to them. I think John Minto's a case in
points serial protester. You name a calls, he'll get behind it.
In Europe, they're defacing ancient artifacts, throwing soup on paintings,
confetti on the call at Wimbledon. While they're doing all

(17:02):
these ridiculous stunts, hoovering up social media followers along the way,
they claim, as Greta did yesterday, that it's not about them. No, no,
it's about the Palestinian people, not me, says Greta. The
lady doth protest too much? Me thinking nine after five
news talks, they'd be nine nine. The numbers of text

(17:25):
Morning Ryan suggests you're seeing the mayor of Ottada and
the Tourism Council. The copy of the Aussie classic The Castle,
says Michael. On those numbers, they're dreaming.

Speaker 1 (17:34):
You Ryan Bridge on earlier edition with ex Pole insulation,
keeping Kiwi Holmes warm and try this.

Speaker 2 (17:45):
Winter News Talks. They'd be Hello, Louis Daniel, good morning.
It is twenty four away from the new talks. They'd
be Casey Costello, the Minister, on this new report about
co option. This out this morning. We'll get to that
before six o'clock. We will also get to Dono tomorrow
out of Australia on the Aussie Reporter. Shot in the

(18:06):
leg with a rubber pellette from the cops in la
Elon Musk's dad is going. Apparently he's a real poutin fan.
This is from the Wall Street General last night. Apparently
he's a real potin fan and he's going to a
two day conference in Moscow. Elon Musk dad for oligarchs,
and there's a particular oligarch, Constantine Malafev, who's won of

(18:26):
Pusan's mates. He's hosting the conference. Elon Musks dad, Errol
is going. Alex Jones, that conspiracy theorists from the US.
He's going. And Errol Musk has been photographed in Moscow.
Presumably he's being wined and dined and taken there by
Putin's people, by the Kremlin or by the probably more

(18:46):
likely by the oligarch himself. And he's given comments to
a newspaper, Russian newspaper, and about the Trump musk feud.
He says, Oh, don't worry about it. You know they've
been he says, quote, you know, they've been under a
lot of stress for five months. You know, give them
a break. They're very tired, in stressed. You can expect

(19:07):
some things like this, he says. Ultimately Trump will prevail,
and that Elon he goes. You know, Elon, he made
a mistake, I think, but he is tired and he
is stressed. Also, he said of Putin, he's a little
bit in awe of him, which, ike guess kind of
makes sense once you consider, you know, Elon doesn't like
USA to Ukraine, and his dad is a massive Putin fanboy.

(19:30):
So it all makes sense, now, doesn't it. Twenty three
minutes away.

Speaker 1 (19:33):
From six Ryan Bridge, our.

Speaker 2 (19:35):
Reporters around the country, Collen Proctor and Dunedin Calum some
good signs for horticulture viticulture in Central Otago.

Speaker 11 (19:42):
Here morning Ryan was seeing a good growth in the sectors,
which is encouraging for the region's economy and new labor
market report showing modest growth and new plantings. So total
planted hectes are up from four thousand, three hundred and
twenty twenty one to just under four thousand, four hundred
last year, and that's large due to the horticulture sector
for Central Otago. The report's also found growers are investing

(20:05):
more in the provision of staff accommodation and there's also
an increased awareness around staff well being.

Speaker 2 (20:10):
O great, how's your weather? Calum, chilly this morning again.

Speaker 11 (20:14):
Year zero in the car and freezing on the way
to work this morning, but partly cloudy nor eastlies and
nine is Dunedin's high today.

Speaker 2 (20:20):
Nice enjoy that Calum cheers clear and christ Church clear,
Good morning, Good morning. Now what's going on? There's a
scandal with your Canterbury Uni halls of residence.

Speaker 12 (20:30):
A scandal indeed, look, Canterbury University is refusing to say
basically why something is occurring, so they won't accept whether
or not there's been a directive to have less local
students in their halls of residents. Some new data that
our newsroom has obtained shows there are one hundred and
twenty four christ Church based students living in the halls
this year. That's a drop of fifty seven percent from

(20:52):
twenty twenty two. Now this comes at a time when
it's in the paper here every day that demand is
outpacing capacity. At UC there are four thousand people who
applied for two four hundred hall spaces this year. The
u sees Paul O'Flaherty says it doesn't decide what students
go to the halls and when they were asked why,

(21:13):
they wouldn't say whether it was a coincidence. He says
there is some spaces open for next semester of people
are looking for accommodation, while the Student's Association president Luke
McKay couldn't comment further either, but does say there's some
good support for those who are struggling to find somewhere
to live.

Speaker 2 (21:28):
All right, is that Duke by local do you mean
like Canterbury christ.

Speaker 12 (21:33):
Church based students. So there was a suggestion that a
lot of christ Church based students were going and living
in the halls because it's cheaper and you get that
UNI experience.

Speaker 2 (21:41):
Yeah, right, how's your weather, Claire.

Speaker 12 (21:44):
Cloudy and cold here as well. A bit more rain
on the forecast today, northeasterlies and a high of ten.

Speaker 2 (21:49):
Nice one. Thank you Max's and Wellington Max, good morning.
Oh yeah, got an update. You've got an update on
the scammer in Wellington.

Speaker 13 (21:59):
Yeah, a good story on the one of the post
this morning. Last week we reported about this scammer named
Rhys Salmon being sentenced to four years prison for defrauding
quite a lot of elderly people in Wellington are more
than in total four hundred thousand dollars in just a
matter of days.

Speaker 2 (22:14):
How we did it.

Speaker 13 (22:14):
This was an international scam that was coordinated in the UK. Salmon,
British had just landed here last July straight away went
to work carrying out what had been in the works
for some time. These pre planned scams. Basically, nineteen people
aged between sixty nine and Wellington across Welling sixty nine
and ninety five across Wellington had been told over the
phone that their bank details had been compromised. Police apparently

(22:37):
needed their help in catching a dishonest employee at the bank.
There were several more phone calls, a very elaborate sting
that would eventually end in Salmon turning up at their
front doors, pretending to be a detective and collecting large
amounts of cash and gold bullion. You might think, you know,
this would never happen to me. I would never just
hand over cash. But it does happen, and it has
happened incredibly elaborate. It has arms and Auckland across the

(23:00):
Lower North Island. Again the message just to stay aware.
These scams do happen.

Speaker 2 (23:06):
God, that is just what a prat. That's awful to
thinking about those old elderly people. How's your weather clear?
Us up?

Speaker 13 (23:15):
No overcast as showers twelve the high central banks, Max
Neivas and Auckland Neva.

Speaker 14 (23:21):
Do you think you'd ever cheer us up?

Speaker 15 (23:23):
Max?

Speaker 2 (23:24):
I do not.

Speaker 4 (23:24):
Well.

Speaker 2 (23:24):
We talked to the other day about how Wellington is
going to turn a corner next year and they're finding
it against some events at the events at the stadium,
and you know they'll get a new mia by then. True,
hopefully they'll change your undies and sort your life out.
The screens to protect the bus drivers a middle the
problem another problem with them.

Speaker 14 (23:45):
You're quite right, shipping delays Now that's going to affect
this roll out of all these screens to protect the
bus drivers on Auckland Transport buses. So AT expected to
have about three hundred screens installed by now what I
can tell you they've done one hundred and fifty. Rachel Kara,
she's a group manager of Public Transport Operation. She said, Look,

(24:05):
the shipping delays earlier this year, it's affected the installation.
So now they're saying, well, they're hoping to install about
a rate of twenty a week. But now with all
of these delays, AT aims to have about eighty percent
of the buses done by July next year.

Speaker 2 (24:23):
Ah. In the meantime, you bus drivers are getting.

Speaker 14 (24:26):
Exactly just violence?

Speaker 2 (24:28):
Sorry for bus driver side do I? I just think,
and it's probably not a good thought, but I thought
the other day we should have more self driving buses
than taxis.

Speaker 14 (24:37):
Imagine that head.

Speaker 2 (24:38):
Well, I mean it would take you know, I sure
that would mean no job, but it would also be
a lot safer.

Speaker 1 (24:44):
Yeah.

Speaker 14 (24:44):
Oh, look, I didn't feel for bus drivers because who
would want to be a bus driver these days?

Speaker 2 (24:48):
Bactly who would want to be on us? How's the
weather in Auckland right?

Speaker 14 (24:53):
We have a mixed bag here We've got fog this morning, rain,
late morning, possible thunderstorms, hail from afternoon, strong winds.

Speaker 2 (25:02):
You're just covering all the bases.

Speaker 14 (25:03):
I know it's a line. This is not fake news.
Strong winds gusting one hundred kilometers per hour in thunderstorms
by afternoon. Eighteen is the high.

Speaker 2 (25:13):
Have a great day. What else are we getting? All right?
Thank you? Never great to see You're seventeen away from
six News Talks b Donald to Mayo out of Australia.
Next on that Ossie reporter reaction across the Tesman Plus
we will get to Casey Costello on corruption in New
Zealand before.

Speaker 1 (25:27):
Six International correspondence with ends and eye insurance peace of
mind for New Zealand Business.

Speaker 2 (25:35):
News Talk'd be fourteen away from six. We'll get to
Casey Costello on corruption in just a second, right now,
Donald to Mayo out of Australia, Donna, good morning.

Speaker 15 (25:42):
Good morning to you.

Speaker 2 (25:43):
Now, the Prime Minister's been asked to get involved with
this ossie journalist. We've all seen the footage the rubber
bullet in LA. What's the Prime minister going to do here?

Speaker 15 (25:53):
Well, the Prime Minister has been urged to intervene after
the Ossie journo was hit by this rubber bullet in
the LA protest. And you have seen that footage the incident,
you know, where this rubber bullet was fired. It looks
like the cop was actually directing towards, you know, firing
towards the Channel nine journalist Lauren sorry, Lauren Tomasi, as

(26:13):
she reported from the protests in downtown La. Now we've
heard from Green Senator Sarah Hanson Young. She says, Anthony
Alberanezi must hold Trump accountable. And we who know that
the journalist says she was left with her, you know,
quite a nasty bruise and can you imagine how frightening
it would have been at the time when his rubber
bullet struck her leg? She says, it was the size
of a golf ball. And it does give a sense

(26:37):
of the situation that it is out of control at
the moment over there, and a reminder of the dangers
of being a journalist. Well Sas to Hanson, Young says,
now is the time for the PM to bring it up,
perhaps when he next meets with the US President and
get an explanation for what happened, or perhaps even pick
up the phone and have that conversation. She says, it's

(26:58):
simply shocking and completely unacceptable that US authorities would shoot
at a journalist.

Speaker 2 (27:05):
Look, I agree with you, never should you shoot it
a journalist. However, I did notice just watching the footage
she did normally when you go to a war zone,
when a journalist goes to war zone, they have they
are TV is written on them back in front, and
I just noticed that this is a violent protest. There
are rubber bullets being fined, and she wasn't wearing that.

(27:26):
I mean, if you are the police officer, how are
you to know whose journalist, who's protester? You know, as
they're approaching you. That was my only thought about that.

Speaker 15 (27:36):
Oh okay, okay, I did feel that she was. She
had the camera operator right near her, and she had
the chunky microphone labeled, so I'm not sure. I mean, yeah, look,
there's's term all over there.

Speaker 2 (27:48):
As we know, it's an absolute mess. Hey, rural New
South Wales community shocked by a low act. Apparently church
bell has been stolen. Oh how low is this?

Speaker 15 (27:58):
A one hundred and eighty five year old church bell
was stolen from a local rural church. Now the thieves
they reckon it's two to three blokes peeled off or
actually probably used an angle grinder to shear off this
giant bell, possibly made of bronze. The owner says she's devastated.
It's such a pointless thing to do. And the bell

(28:20):
had such enormous significance because it was rung on Armises Day,
which is now known as Remembrance Day, when the Great
Wolf finished, and it was rung so hard that it
had cracked. One local saying, they're absolutely shocked at the theft,
such a low actress, as we said, and they hope
that the thieves have a change of conscience and return it.

Speaker 2 (28:37):
I really appreciate your time, Donna, thank you very much
for that. Donald tomorow our Ossi Cory. It is eleven
two six Bryan Bridge. The latest Organized Crime Group report,
this is the advisory group the government set up, is
out and it says corruption is getting worse here and
in the Pacific, mainly to do with organized crime importing drugs,
that sort of thing, but also the fact that some
of our trading partners are more corrupt than us and

(28:58):
there's a risk there of the rot spreading. Casey Costello,
Minister in charge of the group with me this morning. Minister,
good morning, Good morning Ryan. I'm just having a look
at some of the examples. There are some bad ones,
you know, we've got border agents being compromised and allowing
meth to be brought in, etc. But there are only
a couple spread over a few years. Is this a

(29:19):
major problem or is this one we need more data about.

Speaker 14 (29:24):
No.

Speaker 9 (29:25):
I think this is a major problem because we're talking
about those agents being targeted by organized crime, so as
opposed to it being someone who's chosen a different path.
This is about organized crime trying to find ways to
weaken our borders, weaken our controls and paint our supply chain.

(29:45):
And this is why we can't sit on our laurels
and think, well, this is this is something happens in
other countries. We need to step up in line with
our five life partners and do more.

Speaker 2 (29:56):
When you say do more, do what exactly?

Speaker 9 (29:59):
So this is a about you know, if you in
the report, it talks about the fact that we are
the only five guys partners that doesn't have a natural
corruption strategy. Our legislation isn't really fits a purpose. When
we talk about corruption and our Crimes Act. It's quite
a weak phrasing of how we look at corruption in

(30:20):
New Zealand always about official capacity. What we need to
look at is bring our legislation up to play. And
the biggest part, which is all of these reports are
talking about, is how our agencies connect up better to strengthen.
As we do with our border, we look at how
we can strengthen our border to make it stronger. This
is about our internal borders, making sure that we are connected,

(30:43):
we're working cooperatively, that all of our agencies are sharing information.

Speaker 2 (30:47):
That all sounds good? Do you This is all about
organized crime and it's about money, isn't it. I mean,
if your if you work for customs, it's about money.
Do you know which department has the lowest pay of
all the departments? I don't know, but it's not custom
says the lowest average pay. I mean, do you think
so If it's not about money, what is it about?
Why else would you help you organize crime group? If

(31:09):
you're a customs official.

Speaker 9 (31:11):
Well, it is about money. It is about as it
says in the report, it's about familial collection connections. It's
about customary connections. We're talking about the reason people drive
do things is to help family members out. It's to
protect a family member who's got to debt those sort
of things. It's not necessarily about driven from making money also,

(31:32):
and that's the part that we have to be really serious,
and it's not when we talk about the organized crime
component is about little players doing little pieces of work
that might not seem like a major thing until it's
all connected up.

Speaker 2 (31:46):
Minister, appreciate your time this morning. Thanks for coming on
the show Casey Costello, who is Customs and Associate Police
but also Minister in charge of this group looking into
organized crime. Eight to six News Talks that'd be right next.

Speaker 1 (31:58):
The news you need this morning and the in depth
analysis earlier this year with Bryan Bridge and ex Bowl
Insulation keeping Kiwi Holmes warm and dry this winter news
Talk said be.

Speaker 2 (32:09):
Five to six, Good morning, and you're on news Talk,
said be Lisa's Ryan. I may have this wrong, but
I didn't think the journalist, the Aussie one over in
LA was wearing a press vest that she wasn't, which
is the point I was trying to make to Donn
and Tomayo. Anyway, Mike's here, Hi, Mike, you.

Speaker 5 (32:23):
Know it doesn't stop being getting shot in the league, though,
does it a best?

Speaker 2 (32:26):
Well, if you that's why they wear them to war zones,
you have a massive vest it's his TV Did you.

Speaker 5 (32:32):
Also notice she was There were some other shots I
was looking at from other channels later in the day.
She seemed everywhere. She seemed on the present. And if
you've ever been to a protest, what you'll see is
is a collective of people who are part of the protest,
and then three or four of the media who just
kind of hang around in the spot all day.

Speaker 2 (32:50):
I've spent many an hour doing that.

Speaker 5 (32:51):
And if you look at the size of Los Angeles,
it's a tiny, infinitesimal part of the what review is
a massive city.

Speaker 2 (32:59):
Which is all been blown up on social media. But
the thing is, if you get between rubber bullets being
fired and protests hurtling bottles without a TV vest on,
you're asking for trouble.

Speaker 5 (33:11):
I was also watching lime scooters being hurled off the
bridge down onto the cop cast. It's just unbelievad tell
me what, tell me what the average principle of a
high school means? Round not a bad guest two hundred?

Speaker 2 (33:25):
What of a primary school?

Speaker 5 (33:27):
Of a secondary both average. Once you average out what
two dollars, what does an average secondary teacher teacher run?
Number ninety one hundred.

Speaker 2 (33:38):
Yeah close, not bad anyway.

Speaker 5 (33:40):
The reason I raise that is, for the first time
since records began, apparently we are having more teachers now
into schools than there are. So the role goes up
each year and everyone goes, oh, we'll hang on the
remote kids and there are teachers. So we've reversed that.
So we've got new numbers out this morning. The are
more teachers now going into schools, and there are the
increase in the role and tllowing you that those numbers

(34:01):
that go along, we said, we might just have solved
the problem.

Speaker 2 (34:03):
What are they whining about?

Speaker 1 (34:04):
Things?

Speaker 2 (34:05):
I couldn't agree more very well paid, and that was
the nurses. I might go into teaching, Go into teaching
all nursing night snakes See tomorrow grun Have a great day.

Speaker 1 (34:20):
For more from Early Edition with Ryan Bridge. Listen live
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