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June 18, 2025 • 34 mins

On the Early Edition with Ryan Bridge Full Show Podcast Thursday 19th of June 2025, Dave Sweas CEO of Manufacturer Dodson group, joins Ryan Bridge to talk about the GDP figures out today. 

The government scrapped the 5-year census, AUT director of the centre for social data analytics, Rhema Vaithianathan shares her thoughts. 

We've got more Visa changes for Chinese nationals, Immigration Minister Erica Stanford tells Ryan Bridge what it means. 

Plus, US Correspondent Katie Fisher has the latest on Trump's stance on Israel. 

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
The issues, the interviews and the insight. Ryan Bridge on
an early edition with ex Pole insulation keeping Kiwi homes
warm and dry this winter news talks.

Speaker 2 (00:11):
That'd be good morning Thursday. It is six after five.
Great to have your company coming up on the show.
We've got quarter one GDP out today and we're going
to speak to a really successful Kiwi manufacturing business here
to see how they're firing, because we've had numbers sort
of jumping around a little bit on manufacturing. Be interesting
to get an insight this morning. We'll get to a
US correspondent before six o'clock as well. Trump's still mulling

(00:32):
getting involved in the Middle East acc claims which sports
are the worst offenders? Few surprises for you there. Census
is gone, it's good, Sleeping drugs are in, that's good.
And Erica Stamford on the visa changes, more visa changes
for the Chinese. That's ahead.

Speaker 3 (00:51):
The agenda Thursday to nineteenth June.

Speaker 2 (00:54):
I may do it, I may not. That's the words
of the Trump deciding whether to join Israel's strikes on
a run.

Speaker 4 (01:00):
I mean, nobody knows what I'm going to do.

Speaker 1 (01:01):
I can tell you there's that Aram's got a lot
of trouble, and they want to negotiate, And I said,
why didn't you negotiate with me before all this death.

Speaker 2 (01:11):
To Meani, this is around Supreme Leader warning Trump to
back off.

Speaker 5 (01:14):
Please no, But America's intervention in this matter is one
hundred percent to their detriment. What they will suffer in
this regard is much greater than what's a run they suffer.

Speaker 2 (01:26):
Now, the US Supreme Court has ruled that Tennessee can
limit or fully ban gender transition care for young people. Basically,
banning puberty blockers for under eighteens is not discrimination.

Speaker 6 (01:39):
It gives a way for other states who are either
preparing this type of legislation.

Speaker 3 (01:44):
Or already have it.

Speaker 6 (01:45):
And for these people, their voices and their way to
be heard was now just cut short back home.

Speaker 2 (01:51):
A record number of our teachers are working past retirement age.
About ten percent of the total workforce are over the
age of sixty five. Here is a six eight year
old teacher who's been in the workforce for twenty years.

Speaker 7 (02:03):
I know that in reality we should have for younger
teachers coming through the problem is that our younger teachers
are getting qualified and disappearing.

Speaker 2 (02:11):
Not sure, Yeah, plus the young ones can't do maths.
I mean, they were brought up in the cities, they
were raised in the and taught in the very system
that's failing you know. The same system that's starting our
kids today is the one that failed them, you know
what I mean. So it's good to have some older teachers.
Around eight minutes after five.

Speaker 3 (02:33):
The first word on the News of the Day early
edition with.

Speaker 1 (02:36):
Ryan Bridge and ex fol Insulation keeping Kiwi Holmes warm
and dry.

Speaker 3 (02:41):
This winter news talk said, be good morning. Now.

Speaker 2 (02:44):
My alarm goes at one of those unholy hours, like
many of you probably if you're awake listening at this time.
Most days, it's fine, you know, and you get maybe
you get five hours sleep, maybe you get six hours
sleep if you're lucky. Maybe you have a nap during
the day, you know, lying around the house on the couch,
if you get some time. I've never been a good

(03:05):
sleeper personally, which is why I'm absolutely fizzing frothing at
the mouth about the government gonna basically give us malatonin
over the counter without a prescription. I've always found it
old that you could get hardcore, proper sleeping pills from
the doctor on prescription and they were subsidized. I always
found that wed if you wanted malatonin, which is way

(03:27):
more natural it's basically the same chemical that your body
produces when you go to sleep, you had to not
only get a prescription for it, but you also had
to pay fifty dollars a pop for the medication instead
of paying five dollars or whatever, which for you knock
me out cold ones. Wouldn't they prefer you had a
more natural one? Anyway? I don't care who cares that's coming.

(03:49):
This is good and it's gonna make a massive difference
to people. I think. Nothing like a good night's sleep.
I actually know. I won't say who, But there was
a New Zealand Prime minister who I was traveling on
a plane with once on a on a like a
trade mission. It was a government plane and an air
Force plane, and I saw that they had a stash

(04:10):
of malatonin in their bag and it was purchased overseas,
and I said, oh, where did you get that from?
And this person said, America, And you're not meant to
do that. If you import it from America, you can
have it taken off you are customs, you know, or
if you have it sent over. You can take have
it taken off you, or you could have it taken

(04:31):
off you at the airport. Now, you don't normally get
search when you're on these Air Force on jets, so
this particular prime minister didn't. But there you go. Even
the prime ministers were breaking the rules. Same thing goes
actually for this announcement yesterday about mushrooms and depression, why
not give it a go? And then you think, why
do we have so many rules, so much red tape,

(04:52):
unnecessary nonsense around medications in the first place, And most
of the time the answer is simply that nobody has
stepped in and questioned it before. So thank god somebody
is doing that. And maybe we'll get eight hours sleep
out of an evening eleven after five, Ryan Bred coming
up next, we'll talk about the census as everybody is
celebrating the fact, celebrating its demise. I mean, what a

(05:13):
waste of time and they already have enough information. Apparently
a couple of fish trucks will get to the.

Speaker 3 (05:18):
Next get ahead of the headlines on an early edition with.

Speaker 1 (05:23):
Ryan Bridge and ex Fole Insulation keeping Kiwi Holmes warm
and dry.

Speaker 3 (05:28):
This winter news talks a'd.

Speaker 2 (05:30):
Be five point thirteen nine two ninety two is the
number to text We'd love to hear from you this morning.
Latest IPSOS New Zealand Issues Monitor. This is basically a
survey of one thousand New Zealanders conducted immediately after the budget.
And if you're a fan of this coalition government then
you might want to close your ears. National has lost
New Zealander's confidence in managing inflation in the cost of
living according to this, with voters instead trusting labor more

(05:53):
to handle what they consider the primary issue. So the
issue number one is constant living and they think that
labor has the edge over National and taming it. Overall,
labor was considered more capable in handling eleven of the
top twenty issues health, housing, education, transport, immigration, unemployment, National
on top and only three the economy, crime, defense, and

(06:17):
foreign affairs. Now you might be scratching your head when
you're listening to that, because you think, hang on, a minute,
is how short it are people's memories. But when the
cost of living is one of those things, it is
a politician's worst nightmare because you look at the price
of butter and you hate the person in power. It
happened to just cinder. It's happening to luxon. I don't

(06:38):
think that's going to reflect an election outcome or have
any bearing on it. That is a completely different kettle
of fish. But there you go. That's the way people
are feeling today. Quarter past five, Bryan Bridge should go
one of the days of the five year census yesterday
it was scrapped by the government and instead agencies will
use data they already collect, like ird numbers that will

(06:59):
be provided by smaller scale surveys. Rema vy THEA. Nathan
is the director of the Center for Social Data Analytics
at Analytics at a UT And that's with me this morning. Remember,
good morning, good morning man. Did we need the census?

Speaker 7 (07:15):
Well, not at that price, my goodness. On twenty five
million dollars to do a census of two million households.
My eyes were watering when I saw that number. So
that is incredibly expensive and I think that that needs
to be looked at, frankly. But yeah, given the price,

(07:35):
given it's every five years, and you know, we can
use that been data now to do an annual census
and that's much more useful than waiting, you know, for
five years to find out what's happening. So I think
this is a really good move.

Speaker 2 (07:50):
Lots of other countries have already done this, haven't they.
They're using administrative data, and lots of other countries would
only do it every ten years anyway, not five exactly.

Speaker 7 (08:00):
And you know, it's it's kind of really people think, oh,
the census is accurate. Well, it's accurate for you know,
the twenty fifth of March twenty twenty three, and then
you know what, people left the country, other people were born,
you know, people moved house, and it's not accurate anymore.
So you know, the degree of accuracy is how close

(08:21):
to in time you are to the snapshot of your population.
So I think that moving to admin data that can
give us real time information. You know, I sort of
call the census as if my bank gives me annual
bank balances for me to decide on what I'm going
to buy and I'm going.

Speaker 8 (08:40):
To you know what I earn.

Speaker 7 (08:42):
It's I think it's time has come.

Speaker 2 (08:45):
Ch appreciate your input this morning. That's Rema Vi, thea
Nathan who's with aut There you go again, this is
like the malatonin thing. We do things and you know,
whether it's regulations or whether it's a census, or whether
it's a particular law or a visa. We're about to
talk about Chinese visas with Erica Stanford, because we've just

(09:10):
always done them, and then every year and then you start,
you set up a department and their jobbers to do it,
and so every year they do it. But every now
and then you need someone to come along and say,
why are we doing this? Do we need to spend
twenty five million dollars every five years on a census
that doesn't mean anything? Clearly the answer is no, So

(09:31):
good riddance. Eric Annext seventeen after five, News Talk said, be.

Speaker 1 (09:37):
On your radio and online on iHeartRadio Early edition with
Ryan Bridge and x full Insulation keeping Kiwi Holmes warm
and dry this winter.

Speaker 2 (09:47):
News Talk said b I'll have the acc snapshot numbers
for you in a second. It's what sports are causing
the most injuries. Also will get to the latest from
the Honorable, the right Honorable Winston pieces our foreign me.
They've evacuated a couple of our staff out of Tehran
overnight just gone twenty after five. Now more visa changes
for Chinese visitors on the way from November. Chinese passport

(10:09):
holders will no longer be required to obtain a transit visa.
We're traveling through New Zealand airports. This means no visa
application fees when traveling through to say South America and
beyond Erica. Stanford is the Minister and with me this morning.
Good morning, minister, good morning, how are you good? Thank you?
What do we think this will do? What effect will
this have?

Speaker 4 (10:29):
Although we're a number of great things for New Zealand.
I mean, firstly, it'll boost our terrorism numbers. We know
that our tourism numbers aren't where they need to be,
especially our Chinese visitors. They're still lagging it around sixty
five percent pre COVID, So anything we can do to help.
But also if you think about our trade as well,
I mean, this will significantly increase the amount of freight

(10:53):
that will come in and out of China but also
across to South America as well. It also bring down
freight prices, freight prices which you know are pretty high.
The other thing which I think people are probably not
thinking about, but I'm thinking about as well as our
international education. So if you think about South America, we

(11:13):
want more international students coming from South America at the moment,
there is I saw them a monopoly on flights. There's
only one company doing it. Now you'll have more, so
I'll bring that price down of being able to get
across from South America. So I'm hoping that we'll also
see an increased number of international students out of South
America as well.

Speaker 2 (11:32):
All right, minister, let's talk about the weird thing that's
happening with the government. So why is any Why won't
anybody just say, you know, China's not on our visa
free list? Right, And I've asked. I asked the Prime
Minister about this on Monday. I heard him aster about
it because he's over in China at the moment, and
he won't say why they're not on the visa free list.

(11:54):
Can you just say, categorically, what risk do they pipe?
Why aren't they on there?

Speaker 4 (12:00):
Most countries aren't on a visa free list.

Speaker 8 (12:03):
The reason we have to look at it is because it's.

Speaker 4 (12:05):
Because there's there's risk with every country. Every country has
a certain risk. There's loads of different risks. If you
don't China, for example, Well, if you look at China
for example, they're our second largest market for asylum seekerds right,
and so there are lots of other countries we have
asylum seekers from as well, but it's just one of
the considerations. But the main thing is also it's a

(12:27):
huge piece of work to undertake a big program of
looking at whether or not we should make a country
visa free, and that would be an immigration piece of work.
We are absolutely up to our eyeballs and immigration with
our work program. There is literally nothing else we can
add it and without me taking something else of a
huge piece of work. So I don't have the time

(12:49):
to do it. But what I can do is the
two things you've seen.

Speaker 2 (12:54):
We worried just so weakly. We're worried that we would
be overwhelmed with asylum seekers if we did visa free
from China.

Speaker 4 (13:01):
You're putting words into my market and say overwhelmed. They
said that they are the second largest country that we
have asylum seekers from. It's one of the risks.

Speaker 2 (13:09):
Right, But what is the benefit? What is the benefit though,
because we're still only that sixty percent of pre COVID
levels for tourism from China, when we're living more than
a billion bucks on the table at this point, is
it not worth looking at or do we not do
we not even want to go there.

Speaker 4 (13:26):
There are a couple of other things we've done just
recently which I think will bring the numbers back that
are a lot easier, safer, risk free. If you look
at what we've just done recently, we've announced the fact
that China, China, these past beholders can come in through
Australia visa free. Now we're expecting that to increase tourism
numbers by ten to twenty percent. When I say Chinese

(13:46):
visitors are back to sixty five percent, that's arrived on sure.
The actual figure that's more interesting is eighty five percent
of the pre COVID numbers of Chinese visitors have been
approved of visa, which means they haven't you sit yet
because they're on their way. So if you add that
eighty five percent to what we think are going to
come to Australia plus this, I think we'll be back

(14:09):
to we'll be back to pre pandemic numbers as without
me having to do months and months and months of
work that we don't have time to do twice.

Speaker 2 (14:17):
Also, you know, adding I think you have answered the
question quite sufficiently. I appreciate it. Thank you, unlike your boss,
just spit it out anyway. I appreciate you coming on
the show, Minister, have a great day, Eric Stan, thank you.
Immigration Minister twenty five after five year on News Talks.

(14:37):
He'd be some thoughts on Matadiki week in your head
of course the time will you reflect and observe things
around you? Basically I'll do a bit of that next.
Also the front page of the Hell this morning about
the cop who lowered the standards for the physical test.
It's a Michael Morrin special and we will get to

(14:58):
the US just before six News Talks FB.

Speaker 1 (15:01):
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Speaker 2 (15:08):
News TALKSB five twenty seven. Good to have your company.
World's a bit of a mess at the moment, isn't it,
to say the least. And I'm as guilty as the
next person of complaining about the tyranny of distance in
New Zealand. But the fact is we're bloody lucky to
live this far across the ocean and out of harm's way.
We're at least ten thousand kilometers away from the nearest

(15:28):
nuclear weapon launch site, which is good to know. Put
that on your list of things to be grateful for
this morning. Whether it's in shinjong In Province in China
or the Pacific coast of the US, doesn't mean we're
immune to threats and fallout from conflict, nor should we
ignore them. And Foreign Minister Winston Peters certainly isn't. This
week he said he had never seen such an uncertain

(15:51):
geostrategic set of circumstances as the ones we are currently
living through. And that's Winston. We had a report out
this week that for the first time since the Cold War,
we are replacing old war heads quicker than we are
getting rid of them, so, in other words, for the
first time, there will be an overall increase in nuclear weapons.

(16:14):
This is in the coming years. No matter how far
from the front lines we may be and how safe
we may feel as a consequence, it doesn't mean we
don't or shouldn't care about the rest of the world.
We love traveling us Kiwis. We love exploring and experiencing
all the complexities and all the difference that the world
has to offer, and in doing so we lend to

(16:35):
appreciate our own backyard just a wee bit more. This
Martiki weekend, I'll be taking a moment to be grateful
that when I look up to the night sky, I
will see stars rather than incoming missiles and drones. Centy
nine after five nine nine two. The numbers of text,

(16:56):
lots of your text coming in actually on. That's particularly
on the poll that came out earlier, and Erica Stamford
and the Chinese visas. We'll get to those after we
talk to our reporters. Reporters coming up next. By the way,
Winston Peter's put out a release this morning saying we
shouldn't be if you're in, if you're a Kiwi in
Iran or in Israel, we told you to get out.

(17:17):
We won't be able to get you out till after
the fighting stopped, and we don't know when that will be.
News talks HEB.

Speaker 3 (17:32):
News and views you trust to start your day.

Speaker 1 (17:35):
It's earlier this ship with Ryan Bridge at Expol Insulation
keeping Kiwi homes Ward and Drey this winter news talk
said B.

Speaker 2 (17:48):
Good morning, it is Thursday morning. Great to have your company.
The nineteenth June. Some great news for our horticulture sectly
coming your way. The numbers on acc the sports that
are worse for us, and getting injured Also we'll get
to the UN the United States inside the next quarter
of an hour and update on Trump and Iran and
all that stuff. Nothing major has happened to inform you of,
but some more posturing. Also, lots of texts coming in

(18:10):
and the oh, we've got a statement from Winston. I
haven't read that to you yet. I'll get that in second. Ryan,
the cost of living. This is after the survey came out.
The whole result came out from IPSOS this morning. Ryan,
the cost of saying. Basically, labor has leap frogged national
on the cost of living issue. Ryan, the cost of
living is directly caused by Labour's legacy of mismanagement. Leaving

(18:32):
the cupboard bit, Ryan, people obviously forget when Cinder got in,
I won't say won the election, because she came second
and promised to build ten thousand state homes a year.
How did that go? Should they get back in? The
sign at the airport will read for the last person leaving,
please turn the lights off. Best Leo, thanksfully for your message.
I mean, I understand what you're saying, but I think people,

(18:53):
I just think voters deal with what's in front of them.
Cost of butter is high milk's expensive. Hate government. I mean,
that's what we did when labor was in. I mean,
you could definitely argue their policies, and you should. Their
policies caused a lot of that nonsense. But that's just
the way voters are. You know, they see what's in

(19:15):
front of them and then they fire off blame. That's
how it works. That's politics twenty two and I guess
that's where you need good communicators to come in and
sell a story that contradicts it or gives them hope
that you might be able to change something. Twenty two
to six. Brian our reporters around the country, Callum Proctor
and Dnedan This morning, Callum, good morning morning. Right now,

(19:37):
you've got this student bottle store, student in a student
quarter and the wowses are coming for it, are they? Yeah?

Speaker 5 (19:44):
They are.

Speaker 9 (19:44):
This is Leithlickerland in Doneda. That's right across the road
from this university here. The city Council's District Licensing Committee
today is considering whether it should close at nine o'clock
nine pm instead of ten pm to reduce the risk
of alcohol, field violence and off license renewal applications been
opposed by the Medical Officer of Health delegate, the delegates saying, look,

(20:06):
this could exacerbate existing problems around binge drinking and public
submissions if we don't close this thing earlier. There's also
an objection from Bid Christani, the father of students Sophia Christani.
You'll remember who died at a Dunedin flat party in
twenty nineteen. Police have submitted an interim opposition and the
hearing four Leath Liquor Land is at ten this morning.
All right, and how's your wear that Colum find today?

(20:30):
Nor Easterlies and thirteen. Thank you Courtney Winter and christ
Church for us this morning.

Speaker 10 (20:34):
Hey Courtney, good morning Ryan.

Speaker 2 (20:35):
You are also talking about booze.

Speaker 10 (20:38):
Yes, so it's d day for christ Church's local alcohol policy.
Our city council down here will today decide whether to
progress on their draft plan, which includes banning retail sales
after nine pm and freezing new licenses and low income communities.
It's heard more than four hundred submissions on the matter.
Millfilm Majors. There's absolutely an alcohol related harm problem in

(21:01):
this city.

Speaker 8 (21:02):
He says.

Speaker 10 (21:03):
Forty people a day go through accident emergency on alcohol
related things may Jersey's council's got four hours to make
a decision today, but downs it looks gonna take that long.
As everyone's thinking the plan is on the right track.

Speaker 2 (21:17):
How's your weather today, Courtney, partly.

Speaker 10 (21:20):
Cloudy areas of morning, frost, northeasterlies turning northwesterly towards the afternoon.
Are high of sixteen.

Speaker 2 (21:27):
Fantastic. Thank you so much, Courtney. And Max's and Wellington
this morning, Max, good morning, good morning, positive news for
Sir Peter Jackson. And oh, this is the movie museum
down in Lyle Bay.

Speaker 11 (21:37):
Yeah, well, yeah, it has been Lyle Bay, it's been
Shelley Bay, it's been Mirrormit, it's been all over the place.
But the good news is it's still alive and there's
an active resource consent being sought for Shelley Bay. The
plans are all more scaled back than what we've seen
in the past. It's obviously now in the council's hands
as well. So Peter Jackson owns a lot of land
around Wellington, as you say, Lyle Bay's Shelley Bay, around

(21:59):
the air on the peninsula. He's also at the same
time paying for the renovation of the old barracks where
the Chocolate Fish Cafe once stood, very close to where
this museum would be along that coastline, close to where
Ian Castle's abandoned development would have been. You've got to
give it to the guy. He whether you like his
vision or not, he's still all in on the capitol.

Speaker 2 (22:19):
Hey. Can I just take congratulations for a positive news story?
How's the weather?

Speaker 11 (22:26):
I will take it, thank you, cloudy with rain later
stronger winds fourteen the high central.

Speaker 2 (22:31):
All right, thanks, Next, have a good day. I have
a good long weekend. I should say neither. Good morning,
Good morning? Look at you? Have you hit a new year?

Speaker 12 (22:39):
Cut and beard trimmed?

Speaker 2 (22:40):
Got maybe be a done yesterday? Wow, Raphael down at
Paris barber and shortened street.

Speaker 12 (22:47):
Really it's quite different, very handsome, looks good.

Speaker 2 (22:49):
Quite short, quite short. Yeah. No, I wanted to look
because I realized, you know, well, we're both doing this, yes,
show that we're on camera. Yes, And it's annoying having
to shave more often. So I forge the shorter I
can get him to do it right, then the longer
I can go between shaves.

Speaker 1 (23:06):
Good plan.

Speaker 12 (23:06):
I thought, mum, your mummy might have said something. She oh,
I saw you on the Oh no, you're skilled, but I.

Speaker 2 (23:15):
Thought you were gonna say mum, which was going to
shave it. Mum used to cut so I'm one of
three boys and mum used to cut out here because
excuse to go to the barber for three boys. But anyway,
she used to cut it. And you know how normally
you do your side burns, they come down beside this, Yeah,
they come across and they go back up. She just
used to angle above your ear and just trop the

(23:37):
whole thing off. Oh wow, most embarrassing thing to go
to school with.

Speaker 12 (23:40):
My dad cut my hair once. He because I used
to have really really long hair. And this was when
I was, you know, about eight or nine, and my
mother plaured my hair and then my father just cut them.

Speaker 3 (23:50):
There was a plant.

Speaker 12 (23:50):
It wasn't even strange. I remember going to my room
and cry is crying.

Speaker 2 (23:57):
I remember crying a lot after hair cuts too.

Speaker 12 (24:00):
On these young people, they don't know how lucky they are.

Speaker 2 (24:03):
The nose piercings and long hair and colored everyone sharp
blue and purple. Anyway, weather weather.

Speaker 12 (24:11):
Fog before dawn otherwise fine, a bit of a mixed bag.
We've got cloudy conditions. Then rain developing tonight. Seventeen is
the high, but it should be lovely for the long weekends,
and you'll be able to see the star cluster.

Speaker 2 (24:26):
Honestly, I can see the excitement is a little glint
in your eye.

Speaker 12 (24:30):
No, I don't have to get up at three am tomorrow.

Speaker 2 (24:32):
I'm so happy, very happy. All right, we'll see you
later on. That's Neva for you this morning. It's seventeen
minutes away from six. Y're on news Talk. There b
are a correspondent out of the United States Donald Trump's
how to press conference on Iran. We will get to
that shortly plus just before six o'clock this morning. It's
completely slipped my mind what we're talking about, but anyway,
we'll talk about that. Oh, that's right. It's manufacturing. We've

(24:55):
got a we've found a small but mighty manufacturing business Auckland,
seventy five staff, three locations. We want to check the
pulse because we're getting our quarter one GDP data out today,
so we'll do that just before six News Talk SEBB
Quarter one GDP data out soon well out this morning.
We'll get to that in just a second, just gone

(25:15):
fourteen away from six on newstalk seed b Winston Peters
has put out a release this morning on Iran. He says,
if you are a key we there, we did warn
you that you should get out earlier. Anyway, now there's
not much of a chance to if you're either in
Israel or Iran. Flights obviously affected, airspace affected, but he
says they're looking at options for evacuating once it's safe
to do so, coordinating with the Australians. By the way,

(25:37):
overnight the newslet on embassy in Tehran was closed. Two
staff members and their families were evacuated. They went by
land to Azerbaijan and they did this because there was
basically an opportunity. There was embassy staff from other countries,
from other Allied countries who were taking their people out
and so we got involved with that and that they

(25:57):
are now safe in Azerbaijan's urting to.

Speaker 1 (26:00):
Sex International Correspondence with ins and Eye Insurance peace of
mind for New Zealand business.

Speaker 2 (26:07):
I Meanwhile, we watch and whites Trump and his comments
on the situation in the Middle East. He's done a
media staying up a short time ago. Katie for Share
our US correspondent well US Caddy what's he saying, Well.

Speaker 13 (26:20):
He's not doing anything to end this speculation as to
whether or not the US is going to go in
and help Israel in its strikes in Iran. He basically said, look,
I may or I may not. Nobody knows what I'm
going to do. He suggested it wasn't too late for negotiations. Still,

(26:40):
but the Iran Supreme Leader has dismissed Donald Trump's calls
for an unconditional surrender, and he has warned that the
Americans should know that any US military intervention will undoubtedly
be accompanied by quote irreparable damage. So we still don't
have a clear idea of what the US president intends

(27:03):
to do, but we do know that it's causing some rift,
some divisions within his Republican party, who generally, up until
this point in his second presidency, have been completely in
lockstep with him, supporting everything that he's done. But here
we see some of his right wing cheerleaders like Tucker Carson,
who used to be on Fox News, and Marjorie Taylor

(27:24):
Green coming out and saying that by going into this
Iranian war, it would mean that Donald Trump was turning
his back on his America First policy. He promised in
his inauguration that he would not be starting wars, he
would be ending them, and so this would go really
against that. Then you've got others like Senators Lindsay Graham

(27:46):
and Ted Cruz who want him to go forward and
join as well in this fight against Iran.

Speaker 2 (27:52):
Katie, thank you for that up there, Katie Fisher, our
US correspondent on Trump and Iran. It is living minutes
away from six. We get quarter one GDP data out today.
We were expecting an increase of point four, that's according
to the economists. Now they reckon something more like point
seven for the quarter. Manufacturing data looks strong for quarter one,

(28:13):
but things are potentially more dicey for quarter two. David
Sways is the CEO of Dodson Group. This is a manufacturer,
seventy five staff across three manufacturing plants in Auckland and
it's with us for the lowdown. David, good morning, Thanks
for having me on RAN. Great to have you here.
So you're a manufacturer, you're an export. It's a niche market.

(28:35):
Can you just give us some idea of what it
is you do?

Speaker 8 (28:38):
Yeah, So with us known for the dating line of
our high performance car parts, that we make here in
Auckland and we distribute internationally. So those are transmission parts,
so they're upgrade parts to they kind of fast cars faster.
And then we also manufacture precision components for other New
Zealand manufacturers and exports or so things like precision precision

(29:02):
metal parts, gears, gearboxes. So we're really kind of on
the front end of the economic cycle and we get
a get a good look early. We're usually kind of
six months ahead of you know, kind of the data
that's coming out in the news and what the central
banks point notes. We get a good kind of early
look at what's happening in the economy.

Speaker 2 (29:21):
Does that mean right now things are actually okay for
you Yeah?

Speaker 8 (29:26):
I mean look for us, I would say things probably
turned a corner in like February March time print, and
we actually feel pretty good about what's happening out there.
I know, you know, there was the weak print on
the p m I last month, and that surprised us
a little bit because you know, it hasn't shown up
in the order book. I think maybe there was there's
been some trepidation on you know, what's coming out of

(29:47):
the US. But I think overall I mean, you know,
order books are holding up pretty strong, and uh, you know,
for the good news out of this GDP print is
the you know, wages worked have been about flat and
I know that doesn't sound good for workers, but that
that implies productivities up and that's good for the economy

(30:09):
and that's good for the standard of living of New Zealand.
To see that productivity, uh, you know, back on it
on the type of curve and type of increases that
we want to see. So and I think any business
you know who who who you know had their head
in the right place over the last two years when
things were slow, was investing in the business to try

(30:29):
to come out, you know, with a productivity increase on
the other side once things picked up. And I know
that's certainly certainly where we're at right now.

Speaker 2 (30:37):
That's fantastic to hear and certainly reflected in that survey
we saw from two degrees this week how businesses are
feeling about productivity, which is always one of our big problems.
David appreciate that. David Swize, CEO of Dodson Group, which
is a manufacturer. They do basically precision manufacturing. It's a
niche market, but precision manufacturing. It's high horse power, exalted cars.

(31:00):
Mike would drive. He's here next News Talk SVB.

Speaker 1 (31:04):
Ryan Bridge on earlier Isha with Xpol insulation, keeping Kiwi
Holmes warm and try this Winter News TALKSB six.

Speaker 2 (31:12):
To six News Talks. Heb just before your Matadiki weekend
and one of our listeners, who was Sarah, said, Ryan,
you referred to an interesting topic and then you moved
on and didn't get to explaining it. Sorry, Kate said that, Kate,
I apologized. It was ACC twenty twenty four, ACC excepted
two million injury claims, one point six million kiwis covered,
cost seven billion dollars. Four point four billion of that

(31:36):
went towards rehabilitation expenses. And here's your sports that I
was mentioning the most expensive one. Sports and recreation makeup
twenty three percent of claims. Fitness training at the gym.
That's CrossFit normally rugby union bad, football bad, cycling bad
and netball. I would have thought horse riding would be
on there, but there are obviously on enough people doing it.

(31:57):
The largest group of claims by volume is fitness training
at the gym five to six Bridge, might you be
doing a bit of that.

Speaker 14 (32:06):
Well, I don't get injured though. That's the difference. There's
something wrong with us, or is there? Do you think
those numbers sixteen thousand people, by the way, claims on
gardening gardening injuries.

Speaker 2 (32:17):
Gardening's normally older people and older people are frail. Yeah,
But the point is.

Speaker 14 (32:22):
What's the system for See if the systems for people
like you can't work, therefore you need to cover your income.

Speaker 2 (32:27):
Yeah, for a period of time.

Speaker 14 (32:28):
So this is the problem with the whole no fault system.
So you can do it, I mean you and I
must have. I've been at the doctor a number of
times and gone, yeah, I've got a bit of this
and a bit of that, and they go, well, that's
ACC and I've gone, no way, there's no way I'm
filing for ACC.

Speaker 2 (32:42):
You don't. No, absolutely, always claim, always pad of claiming.
Have you claimed? Have you been on ACC? Well no,
I've never had to claim for getting to work or
been out of work, right, but I've claimed on physio
for gim injuries. Really, ye, one hundred percent, I'm doing
it right now.

Speaker 14 (33:00):
What's the metal with that limp?

Speaker 2 (33:03):
The limp is something else? Is that just natural?

Speaker 14 (33:05):
That a strange gait.

Speaker 2 (33:07):
I don't have a strange That's not what they're saying here.
What people are saying.

Speaker 14 (33:11):
I just wondered that's an ac seed.

Speaker 2 (33:13):
Have you seen the inside of a gym?

Speaker 14 (33:15):
By the way, do you know exactly I've got a
gym at home. I've got two gyms. Don't tell me
any other weights?

Speaker 2 (33:22):
Are you using cans of pictures? You know? Have you
picked up a dumbbell in your LuFe? Two cans each side?

Speaker 8 (33:29):
Line?

Speaker 2 (33:30):
It's four cans?

Speaker 14 (33:32):
No, it's it's just that what's the point if you're
going to be spending billions? Which and the point of
the story is we don't have the money. Is the
difficult because everybody is injuring themselves and and and a
no fault system doesn't seem to work. So you're bringing
the roses, you fall over the next thing, you're getting
thousands of dollars. It's a weird system. Anyway, You've insulted
me enough, your programs, leave the studio.

Speaker 2 (33:54):
All right, have a great week long weekend everybody and
Android might show next.

Speaker 4 (33:58):
So you day.

Speaker 1 (34:04):
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