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Speaker 1 (00:01):
The issues, the interviews and the insight. Ryan Bridge on
early edition with ex Pole insulation, keeping keeping Holmes warm
and tray this winter news talks.

Speaker 2 (00:11):
That'd be good morning. It is Monday, the twenty third
of June. Just gone six after five, Our lead interview
before six this morning, Judith Collins is on the program.
Defense Minister. We've got Defense Force personnel in the Middle
East at the moment on joint operations under US command.
So what happens to them if Iran retaliates? We'll ask
the minister before six. Also the latest on Operation Midnight Hammer,

(00:34):
that's what the Yanks are calling it. In the UK.
Our Corey Gavin Gray is with us. Were the Brits
involved in this military operation? And also I'll ask him
about this new poll on reform the party that's just
absolutely blitzing the field one year into Labour's reign. Andrew
Allison on super rugby dog attacks on the rise here

(00:56):
in New Zealand. And more aid for Ukraine. That's from
luxon who over in Europe at the moment, Just gone
seven after five the agenda, So Trump says the strikes
on the three nuclear sites in Iran were a success.

Speaker 3 (01:11):
Iran's key nuclear and Richmond facilities have been completely and
totally obliterated around the bully of the Middle East must
now make peace.

Speaker 2 (01:21):
Can you really say they're obliterated. We'll talk about that
a little later in the program too. Iran warning of
everlasting consequences after this betrayal from the US.

Speaker 4 (01:31):
The war mong green and lawless administration in Washington is
solely and fully responsible for the dangerous consequences and far
riching implement implications are its act of aggression.

Speaker 2 (01:46):
You'll feel relieved to know that the UN Security Council
is going to have a meeting today that will solve things.
At least eight people have died in a hot air
balloon accident in southern Brazil, but thirteen including the pilots, survived.

Speaker 3 (01:58):
Holballos are having a fire of this magnitude is quite rare,
but there have been other unfortunate hotter balloon air tour accidents.

Speaker 2 (02:09):
Back home. The Crusaders beat the Chiefs and the Super
Rugby Pacific final redemption for coach Rob Penny.

Speaker 5 (02:15):
What is fantastic?

Speaker 6 (02:16):
Just been part of a group small to cold in
the wheel The pride is without saying and yeah, the
moment it's a wonderful one.

Speaker 2 (02:25):
That's your agenda for Monday morning.

Speaker 1 (02:28):
The news you need this morning and the in depth
analysis earlier this shar with Ryan Bridge and ex Bowl
insulation keeping Kiwi Holmes warm and dry. This winter news talks.

Speaker 2 (02:38):
A'd be well, that was always going to happen, wasn't it?
What happened what the United States did at the weekend,
because well, just the soundings that you were getting from
the White House were increasingly ominous throughout the last week. Interestingly,
Jade Varns has said overnight in this interview that the
goal of the operation was just to stop the nuclear program.
This is not about despite what some people were saying

(03:00):
over the last coup twenty four hours, this was not
about changing the regime in Iran.

Speaker 7 (03:06):
The main strike package, comprised of seven B two Spirit bombers,
each with two crew members, proceeded quietly to the east
with minimal communications. Once over land, the B twos linked
up with escort and support aircraft in a complex, tightly
timed maneuver requiring exact synchronization across multiple platforms in a

(03:30):
narrow piece of airspace, all done with minimal communications.

Speaker 8 (03:35):
Our B twos went in and out and back without
the world knowing at all. In that way, it was historic.

Speaker 2 (03:43):
Well we did know, didn't we We knew about the
ones going over the Pacific because we had these warnings
on Sundays saying, hey, there's a B two bomba's going
over the Pacific. But that was intentional. They were the decoys.
The real ones were going from Missouri. Now, this is
Jettie Vance talking about the goal of the Operation at War.

Speaker 8 (04:00):
With Iran's nuclear program, and what we did is we
destroyed the.

Speaker 3 (04:05):
Iranian nuclear program.

Speaker 8 (04:06):
I think we set that program back substantially, and we
did it without endangering the lives of the American pilots.

Speaker 2 (04:13):
Yeah. So have they done that? Have they? No doubt
they've taken it back, the nuclear program. You know, they've
They've given a good kick in the goolies, but it
even got rid of it, have they. I Mean, Iran
has shown us time and time again that not only
are they capable when it comes to nuclear and uranium enrichment,

(04:33):
but they are quite determined, aren't they. I Mean, there's
not much that puts them off. Just gone ten minutes
after five anyway, we'll talk about that with jud Collins,
A little later in the program, and we will have
a correspondent from the United States as well. I want
to talk to you about dog attacks. I've had a
friend whose dog has been attacked. In fact, that's the
second friend of mine whose dog has been attacked by

(04:54):
one of these mongral ones. So what do we do
about this? Nine two ninety two is the number to text.
Apparently the council's have gone a bit soft because they
get worried, to get concerned what the owners will of
the dogs will do if they destroy them. So instead
of actually taking action, they just fob it off to
the courts and then you're going to go through a

(05:14):
whole court process. Takes you months, maybe years to get
through that, and the dog stays alive during that process,
the dog that's attacked your dog or attacked you, which
seems crazy to me. Nine the numbers of text. We'll
talk about that a little bit later on just gone
eleven after five.

Speaker 1 (05:31):
Get ahead of the headlines on a early edition with
Ryan Bridge and x Fole Insulation keeping Kiwi homes warm
and dry this winter news talks.

Speaker 2 (05:41):
That'd be just gone five thirteen. So some numbers for you.
This is just from Auckland. Nearly three thousand dog attacks
were recorded on animals and humans across the city last
year three thousand. That's up more than one thousand on
twenty twenty numbers. Basically, this is a problem that we've
heard about for a while now, COVID lockdowns. Everyone winning
god animal couldn't look after it bred well. They just

(06:04):
started going at it with one another. And then we've
got fewer animals being d six, we've got more unregistered
dogs and now we have a balloon, a ballooning in
the number of animals, particularly dangerous ones, dog control offices
on the front line. This is according to the Herald.
They've got a story out this morning. Apparently not just

(06:25):
aggressive animals, but threats and abuse from the owners are
on the increase as well, so that's delightful. The areas
to look out for Mony Day were recorded more than
two hundred attacks last year alone, seven hundred across the
last five years. Papa Couda one hundred and eighty attacks
last year, six hundred and thirty eight over the last
five years. The paper points out it's not because they're

(06:46):
poor areas necessarily, just because they are highly populated ones
with high dog ownership. But I'm sorry. If you've got
a dog that is attacking someone or has attacked someone
or another dog and drawn blood, I mean, I undertink
they should be put down, don't you.

Speaker 1 (07:04):
Ryan Bridge.

Speaker 2 (07:05):
It's gone quarter past five News Talk set B. US
Defense Secretary Pete Higgsith says the US strikes on three
nuclear sites in Iran were an overwhelming success.

Speaker 8 (07:15):
We devastated the Iranian nuclear program. But it's worth noting
the operation did not target Iranian troops, so the Iranian
people now.

Speaker 2 (07:26):
Earlier, Trump told Iran to quote make peace or face
far greater attacks in the future. Tony Waterman is the
US correspondent feature story in News with Me this morning. Tony,
good morning, Good morning. So we've heard about the strikes.
We've heard about the way that this happened. Quite a
few aircraft were involved and some decoys.

Speaker 9 (07:46):
Yeah, you're right. We've got a lot of detail in
that press briefing by the Defense Secretary earlier today, including
the fact that this mission actually started at midnight on
Friday with this group of B two stealth bombers leaving
a military base in the US state of Missouri, and
that group actually split into two one acting as this
decoy flying over the Pacific. The other group heading east

(08:09):
that consisted of seven B two bombers, and they made
this eighteen hour flight to the target areas and they
use these bunker busting bombs, fourteen of them, most of
them dropped on the four dau enrichment site. We also
learned that a Navy submarine in the Persian Gulf fired
off two dozen Tomahawk missiles as part of this attack,

(08:32):
hitting that Islafan site, and the Defense Secretary saying that
this entire operation lasted twenty five minutes and that it
seemed as if nobody on the ground was aware of
what was happening. He said that there were no shots
fired from the Iranian side. Pete Hegseth also saying that

(08:53):
the objective of this operation was not about regime change,
but about taking out Iran's nuclear capabilit Can.

Speaker 2 (09:00):
I say definitively that I've done that.

Speaker 9 (09:05):
Well, it's all about the wording. The President last night,
in this national address, said that the military had completely
obliterated these nuclear sites. Pete Hegseth used some of the
same language, but at one point he said that the
United States had taken out Iran's nuclear ambitions, which is
very different from completely getting rid of their nuclear capabilities.

(09:28):
And then General dan Kin, who was the chairman of
the Joint Chiefs of Staff, said that there is this
battle damage assessment that's underway right now, that all three
of these sites have been extremely damaged, but that it
was way too soon to know whether Iran still retains
some nuclear capability. And of course, we had these satellite
images showing this caravan of lorries at the sites in

(09:52):
the days ahead of these strikes, so it's feasible that
some of this material or some of the equipment may
have been moved. And in fact, it's exactly what Iranian
state media is saying, that these locations were completely empty
when the strikes took place.

Speaker 2 (10:07):
And what about Iran's capability for retaliation? What ammunition have
they got? Where is the US most worried about them attacking?

Speaker 9 (10:19):
Well, the primary concern for US officials right now are
the forty thousand plus US troops that are stationed across
the Middle East on ships, on land at military basis.
That is the primary concern in terms of retaliation. It
could be a whole bunch of things. What we're hearing
right now is that the Iranians are going to be
shutting down the Strait of Hormuz, which is a major

(10:41):
shipping lane to the world and also particularly for US
natural gas. So this is potentially going to spike oil prices,
sprit gas prices in hit America in its pocketbook. There's
also concerns that proxy groups, some sort of militias or
terrorist organizations could carry out attacks that either have been

(11:02):
in the works or that are newly produced. So the
US is very much in defense mold right now, but
the President and his team trying to position this as
a very surgical attack, that this is not part of
a larger war that they want to get into.

Speaker 2 (11:18):
All right, Tony, appreciate your time this morning, Tony Wardman,
who's Fitch Story news reporter out of the United States.
It's just gone nineteen minutes after five Lots of your
texts coming in on dogs day. Take care, Tony, Lots
of the texts coming in on dogs and whether we
should ban that. You know, there are a small number
of quite dangerous breeds. We do have a number of
breeds that are banned already, but do we extend that

(11:40):
to include the ones who we most often hear about
doing the damage. Ryan Simple banned the small number of
recognized dangerous dog breeds that would solve the problem. Would
it solve the problem though? I mean, well, I suppose
if you saw one you could immediately put it down,
couldn't you? That would help grants? Is it's more the
owners of these dogs that are the problem. They're the

(12:00):
ones that need to be locked away and they're not
at present? Are they just gone? Twenty half to five year?
On News Talks hereb we are going to get to
Judith Collins before six o'clock. And Andrew Ordison next on
Super Rugby, the Warriors and the squad naming today for
the All Blacks on.

Speaker 1 (12:18):
Your radio and online on iHeartRadio Early edition with Ryan
Bridge and x full Insulation Keeping Kiey Holmes warm and
dry this winter News Talks hed B.

Speaker 2 (12:29):
Five two On News Talks, head be Andrew Ordison. Here
was sport this morning? Hey, Andrew, Greeting's right? Now? Should
we start with the All Blacks squad named today? What
surprises are we expecting? Well, let's start without the surprises.

Speaker 6 (12:41):
It's been held at the Coastal Club in Taradaki, so
I would have thought it would be a hell of
a surprise. Of well, Scott Barrett's not captain given it's
the home of the Barretts, and perhaps Jordi Barrett and
and Boden Barrett are part of that squad. But there's
so many sort of areas up for I guess contesting here.
I mean loose forwards, midfield, outside backs. Just given what

(13:04):
we've seen across the whole breadth of Super Rugby, I
suppose I'm interested to see where the players you haven't
been in that. So there's two sides that contested the
Super Rugby Final with the Crusaders and the Chiefs, you know,
the likes of your dupless Carefi and the loose forwards
there Christian the o'willy with Tomothi Ta Tava Nahwai might

(13:24):
stand a chance of getting into the midfield and you
can cover on the wing as well. Of course, from
the Heartlanders, it's how much they based on the individual
rather than you know what the combinations have been developed
over that Super Rugby season. But it's always an exciting
time of the year for I guess rugby fans with
the announcement of the All Blacks, and I like the
fact that they're going to the Coastal Club at Tarahaki,

(13:45):
but going a bit off piece if you like to
go and announce that rather than just the formal occasion
that say, you know Rugby HQ.

Speaker 2 (13:52):
Yeah, absolutely, I'm looking forward to that. Now. The Crusaders,
you couldn't wipe the smile off Rob Penny faces and
you can understand why, right you can.

Speaker 6 (14:00):
And he's been through a lot, as they're given. The
pressure is on and probably justifiably in some of the
ways last year with the way that things were going
for the Crusaders. But he's turned out around and you
know where he was given the criticism, he deserves the
credit now. But no confirmation as to whether he's going
to take that job on for the coming season or
next season and onwards. That will be a fascinating point

(14:21):
of I guess interest as time goes on. But he
was again justifiably elated. And I mean look at that record, right,
I mean what a thirty two or zero playoff record
at home in thirteen of the twenty eight Super Roby
Crowns have gone the way of the Crusaders, so they
just know how to do it and bring it and
the Chiefs Clan McMillan have been so close, I mean,

(14:42):
the most consistent team probably over the last three seasons,
making him final every time, but just unable to deliver
as he heads off to Munster.

Speaker 2 (14:50):
Now now very quickly, the Warriors lost to the Panthers
a weekend. Panthers at the weekend that wasn't meant to happen.

Speaker 6 (14:56):
Well, it was a bit of a surprise. Well it's
a surprise in a way, but then Ivan Cleary is
such a wily coach and he would know, I mean
mounts smart so well after having six spent six seasons
at the ground as coached the Warriors and having had
this relationship with Andrew Webster that the head coach of

(15:16):
the Warriors now pretty much out Fox I suppose, and
just yeah, convincing one for them and they needed that
really moving up the table the Panthers now I think
in eighth was seventeen points, Warriors still fourth and there
is a buffer of six points now for the Warriors
from fourth to fifth with the Broncos on eighteen Warriors
twenty four, so they've they're still in control there.

Speaker 2 (15:37):
Brilliant Andrew good heavy on the show is always love
Mondays rining. It is twenty five minutes after five. News
Talks THEB. We'll get to a little update from the
satellite images of the bunker Buster bombs.

Speaker 1 (15:50):
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Speaker 2 (15:57):
News Talks ZB. It is twenty eight minutes after five.
So we now know the Americans used seven B two
stealth bombers to attack Iran. A dozen bunker Buster bombs
were used. They flew in the dark at night, dropping
the payload just after two am local time. They fired
Tomahawk missiles from US Navy ships nearby. They call it
Operation Midnight Hammer. They claimed it was successful, but what

(16:22):
we don't actually know is how successful and what success
actually means. Satellite images don't show you what's happening underground. Obviously,
the bunker Buster bombs are designed to blow stuff up
around sixty meters underground. Nobody but the Iranians know exactly
how deep their enrichment facilities are hidden. Nobody knows how

(16:43):
thick the concrete is that they put on top of it.
It's possible that the main gups of their facilities haven't
been hit at all. Then you ask, what does success
mean if success is destroying Iran's nuclear capability. Well that
hasn't happened. Signists were taken out in Israel's first strikes,
but not all of them. Iran has very smart people

(17:05):
with knowledge of nuclear weapons and enrichment. China sends them
the uranium. This stripe will have set them back. But
this is a country who's shown time and again not
just how capable they are, but how determined they are
to have nuclear weapons. To be a nuclear state doesn't
mean the stripe wasn't worth it, of course, if they

(17:26):
won't negotiate, but also success depends on how you define it.
Bryan Bridge twenty nine after five news talks, they'd be
the reform polling numbers out of the UK. Fascinating. Gavin
Gray on that shortly News.

Speaker 1 (17:40):
And Views you trust to start your day. It's early
edition with Ryan Bridge at expol Insulation keeping, Kiwi, Holmes,
Ward and Drey.

Speaker 2 (17:49):
This winter news talks had been Good Morning twenty four
minutes away from sex Yer on Newstalks, there'd be Judith Collins,
Defence Minister on the program I lead into view before six.
We're sending a hurt to the Middle East, What use
will it be? And why haven't you sent it already
one of the questions. Also, lots of texts this morning.

(18:11):
We'll get to Gavin Gray out of the UK as well.
Lots of texts this morning on Iran, and I don't know,
there seems to be quite a few people who think,
actually America is the bad guys here. You know, why
did they head Iran when we don't know for sure
for certain that they have nuclear weapons? And you're right,
we don't know for certain that they had nuclear weapons. Well,
in fact, we don't think they did have nuclear weapons,

(18:31):
and the US hasn't said that either. It's the enriching
the uranium that we're worried about. And how close you
get to being able to, you know, prop up to
propel a nuclear weapon, and the numbers, by the way,
you get to over a certain percentage and you're no
longer looking at a civilian purpose. And they were over that.

(18:53):
They weren't quite at weapons grade. They were about thirty
percent off weapons grade, so they weren't, you knowately going
to have a nuclear weapon in their hands. But I
guess the question for the US is how close do
you get to that line? How how tight do you
want to run this thing. And so if you've got
an opportunity to drop some bombs and set them back

(19:13):
a couple of years, then do you just take it? Well,
clearly they've decided that. Yees, that is the answer. Twenty
three minutes away twenty two, I should say, away from
six o'clock reporters around the country now Colum Proctor and
needing for us this morning, Colum, good morning morning. Right now,
you've got a lotto winner and invcargo well a ticket
sold from an invercargol store. Correct, that's right.

Speaker 10 (19:35):
They could live anywhere, of course, but two players in
the end sheared the thirty million that was up for
grabs for Powerball on Saturday night. One of those tickets
sold in Wellington won and in the cargo. So the
inv cargo ticket was sold at a Plaza super Well,
at the Plaza Super Valued and Vicago. We know that
the owner says he's only just taken over the store
and was woken by a call from as aeria manager

(19:57):
to be told the news. So he's planning big celebrations
this week with the staff. The ticket, though as yet,
is yet to be claimed.

Speaker 2 (20:06):
Very interesting to see if we ever find out who
it is and you're weather today callum.

Speaker 10 (20:12):
Yet morning cloud then fine strong Selle Westerly is the
high ten today, brilliant.

Speaker 2 (20:16):
Thank you Claires and christ to shake Claire, good morning.
Now you've got some employment opportunities for us at the
Metro Sports Center.

Speaker 11 (20:23):
Yeah, well, at all of our new sports venues. To
be honest, we've got two hundred people to be employed
at the part of cur Day Recreation and Sports Center,
with up to one hundred and fifty staff expected to
be on site at any given time. That's a facility
that's one of its kind. It's the only one like
it in the country that scheduled for opening later this
year in time for the Special Olympics in December. That's

(20:43):
the one we've spoken about before that's blown out to
cost half a billion dollars. Meanwhile, we've heard from venues
Auto Tahi about doubling their casual workforce. That's ahead of
the opening of the one New Zealand Stadium at Takaha. Now,
the company already employs about four hundred and fifty casuals
in order to service events at some of the other
venues like the town Hall. They're going to increase that

(21:04):
though to one thousand casuals in time for the stadium's
opening in April next year.

Speaker 2 (21:09):
All right, how's your wear the clear.

Speaker 11 (21:12):
Morning cloud and then find frosty by tonight Westerly is
easing and high.

Speaker 2 (21:16):
Of eleven brilliant. Thank you Max's and Wellington Max. Good morning,
good morning. You got questions about the second Mountwik tunnel.

Speaker 5 (21:23):
Yes, during the post this morning. Always good to keep
tabs on where we're at with a big project like
this spades in the ground. Of course, this term was
the government's promise. The final funding was supposed to have
been determined in June, running out of time for that.
Until then, the Transport Agency can't look at design time
frame obviously cost. Therefore, you've had the Green Party asking

(21:44):
questions of the Transport Minister on whether a second tunnel
will even be available to pedestrians cyclists. I'm not sure,
was the answer from mister Bishop. A lot of people
walk through the existing tunnel even though it's dark and fume,
and a bus lane in this second time, for instance,
might be equally if not more important, all things that
are important to look at. But the clock seems to

(22:05):
be ticking on that timeframe.

Speaker 2 (22:07):
Certainly, does it just seems like one of those things
that will never happen, although is desperately needed for anyone
who's trying to get to the airport in Wellington. How's
your wear?

Speaker 5 (22:15):
The Max mostly fine today thirteen the High Central brilliant.

Speaker 2 (22:19):
Thank you neighbors and Auckland good morning game that morning.

Speaker 8 (22:22):
Now.

Speaker 2 (22:22):
Kb rawl says passenger line closures will continue in Auckland today.

Speaker 12 (22:27):
Yes, that's right, So another day of disruption for Auckland
rail commuters. No trains in the city today. Now, this
is due to this ongoing Kiwi Rail work ahead of
next year City rail Link opening. So this follows that
full closure. This was of Auckland as well as Wellington
train services over the long weekend. I can't tell you though,
that Wellington's train services are back to normal today ours

(22:48):
Auckland due to resume tomorrow now. Kiwi Rail's David Gordon
says that they're working with Auckland Transport just to put
on some of those adequate rail replacement buses like they
do the other closure periods that we've had that alklors
know so well.

Speaker 2 (23:05):
Yeah, and they're basically always buses now, aren't they? Children
confuse trains for buses these days and am just.

Speaker 12 (23:13):
That's exactly what I was thinking, and you said that
you're quite right right.

Speaker 2 (23:16):
How's that weather?

Speaker 12 (23:17):
Partly cloudy, shells easing this afternoon, our high seventeen.

Speaker 2 (23:21):
Have a great day, Neiva, and it's just gone eighten
minutes away from six o'clock. We will get to Gavin
Gray out of the UK. Couple of things for him.
One was the UK at all the military involved in
the strikes on Iran, you know in terms of help, support, logistics, anything,
this question being asked over there at the moment. And
also reform this pole, I'll tell you about it right now.

(23:43):
You know they've been they've been going up and up
and out. This is reforming Nigel Farage in the UK.
But the new IPSOS Political Monitor Pole has Reform on
thirty four percent, Labor that's nine points ahead of Labor
on twenty five percent, the Conservatives languishing on fifteen the
lowest ever in a NIPSOS poll. Kistarmer by the way,

(24:05):
one year into government and satisfaction levels are pretty much
down there in the bunker. It's eighteen two six and
Judith Collins before the N two News Talk.

Speaker 1 (24:15):
SEB International Correspondence with ends in eye insurance, peace of
mind for New Zealand business.

Speaker 2 (24:23):
You've talked tob It has called it the sixth Judith
Colins next right now, Gavin Gray are UK europe correspondent. Gavin,
Good morning, good evening to you. Are there right now?
The UK has the Kistarmer come out and criticized the
US for the strikes at this point, what is their.

Speaker 13 (24:37):
Position, No, Sir Kistarmer saying obviously warning of a risk
of escalation. However, really the government stance is that there
is no way Iran can have a nuclear weapon, and
so in that sense, you know, he is not criticized
in the Americans, but he's saying that he wants to
reassure the British public that they're doing everything that they
can to stabilize the situation. He has stress crucially here

(25:01):
that there is no involvement in the US action on
behalf of the UK. Now, why is that important? Because
the US Air Force have bases here in the UK.
It was thought that they might use these bases to
launch the attack. That would appear not to have been
the case, I say a peer because UK involvement and
allowing America to use the Air Force Bass are two

(25:22):
slightly different things, but anyway, the Prime Minister this afternoon.
In the last few hours has shared an emergency Cobra
response meeting and held calls with other world leaders, including
France's Emmanuel Macron and Germany's Frederic Mertz. They are all
urging for Iran not to take any action that could
destabilize the region. But a UK defense source said military

(25:43):
personnel in the Middle East were now on their highest
level of alert, and we're being told as well that
the Foreign and Commonwealth Offices advice against all traveler. Israel
has now organized a charter flight from Tel Aviv for
British nationals who want to leave Israel, and now British
Airways announcing its pausing flights to Dubai in the United

(26:04):
Arab Emirates and Dohat in Kata in light of the situation.

Speaker 2 (26:08):
Kevin I was looking at the numbers, the latest poll
numbers from IPSOS at the weekend. Just fascinating what's happening
with reform. So they're on thirty four percent if the
vote was held in my thirty four percent, Labour twenty
five in the Conservative fifteen.

Speaker 13 (26:23):
Yeah, yeah, a real routing and such great news. For
reform and Nigel Farahs, she's smiling face in plenty of
newspapers at the weekend. This isn't just a creeping up
the polls. This is some avalanche that he's getting in
terms of the polls. But it's one thing to have
those polls. It's another thing of pulse for people to
vote that way. But I think it really is a

(26:44):
reflection of huge dissatisfaction about the levels of migration, yes,
but about the way in which the country's being run,
and he's cashing in big on those. But of course
the general election could be several years away and things
can change very very quickly.

Speaker 2 (27:00):
So much for your time this morning. Gavin Gray Are
UK Europe, corresponding twelve minutes away from six Ryan Mico
Rubio in the last couple of hours has talked about, well,
we had JD. Vance come out and say no, we
didn't want regime change in Iran. We just wanted to
hit the nuclear facilities, which is exactly what they did.
But look out, regime change could be coming if you
continue trying to get your hands on a nuclear weapon.

Speaker 10 (27:23):
If Iran is committed to becoming a nuclear weapons power,
I do think it puts the regime at risk. I
really do.

Speaker 12 (27:30):
I think it would be the end of the regime
of their tribe to do that.

Speaker 2 (27:33):
Now. Our Defense Force is sending a C one thirty
j Hercules to the Middle East to assist any key
we stranded in Iran or Israel. Winston Peters at this
point not saying whether we supported America's strikes or not.
Due to Collins, the Minister of Defense is with me
life this morning. Minister, good morning, Oh, good morning, Ryan.
Do you have any update on those numbers. Apparently there

(27:54):
were lots coming out of the woodwork yesterday you were
saying any more overnight.

Speaker 14 (27:58):
Not that I'm the wheel of but as we've said
many times now, people should not be in there if
you can possibly get out and get yourself out there
by any fayfish way possible.

Speaker 2 (28:11):
Is it frustrating that people haven't been signing up from
day one and doing what you said? Yeah?

Speaker 14 (28:17):
I guess that people work on the pray and hope
strategy often, which is like, I know, we've heard this
all before, Nothing's going to happen. In those people who
have been in the region for a while, they often
think like that. But it's a natural human condition to
hope for the best, and I think it's very important

(28:40):
everyone takes the opportunity while they can to get themselves
out to the borders. As they said, those airspaces have
not opened up their clothes, so we can't just fly in.
We've got to have people to come out to the
borders at Moon.

Speaker 2 (28:55):
Yeah, and I mean there are land borders open from
is in a, Jordan and Egypt, the ripen so you
can cross land and then potentially get a commercial flight anyway.

Speaker 14 (29:04):
Yes, that's right, but we've also one of the reasons
for having the Hercules there with our people is that
should those should their airspace open up at all, then
we can possibly go into some areas. But the point
is I really get yourself to a land order if possible.

Speaker 2 (29:23):
Yesterday I was watching you and Minister Peter's that Phenolapaie
said that you know, we're waiting on more information to
determine if the strike was justified or not from the
United States. Do we have any more information? Do you
have a view yet?

Speaker 14 (29:35):
Well, I don't not overnight, and that would normally be
the Foreign Affairs or to deal with that. But no,
I don't have any more information.

Speaker 2 (29:44):
Do you know whether it was legal or illegal.

Speaker 14 (29:47):
No, I'm not trying to give you a legal advice
on something I don't have full information on.

Speaker 2 (29:52):
Right, we still have Pie, we still have personnel minister
in Jordan Air for Operation Gallant Phoenix, because I know
you did an update on that a couple of weeks back.
This is under US Special Operations Command. Are they at
any risk of a retaliatory strike by Iran?

Speaker 14 (30:10):
I would not have thought so, and the Defense Force
has made their assessment on risk. We do have, as
you write, you say quite a few people in the
Middle East, and our people in the Middle East, you know,
obviously for most in our minds, my view is don't
take unnecessary risk, particularly a small nation like ours. We

(30:31):
have to be very careful about what we do. But
I don't believe our people are under any particular threats according.

Speaker 2 (30:37):
To Defense so none of them are being moved.

Speaker 14 (30:40):
Well, I can't say exactly where everybody is, but I
can tell you that we still are continuing with some
of our operations in the Middle East, but there are
some people have already been moved out. Sorry to be vague,
but I have to be bad.

Speaker 2 (30:56):
It's okay when you say people were moved out you
last week as a result of this.

Speaker 14 (31:02):
In the last week or so.

Speaker 2 (31:04):
And any change to the war games that are going
to be happening. I think it's July nine due to
start a Talisman Saber in off the Queensland coast. We've got,
you know, people being sent there. Any change to that at.

Speaker 14 (31:18):
All, not that I'm aware of. I wouldn't have thought not.
It just depends what happens. I mean, I think everyone's
very aware in the sense that anything can happen at
any stage, so they've just got to be prepared. But
at this stage there's no change, okay.

Speaker 2 (31:32):
And new funding for Ukraine, I see it announced overnight
by Prime Minister Luxe. And we had actually the ambassador
on our Herald show a week or so ago and
he was talking about maybe we could pick up some
of their drones. Are we looking at that at all?

Speaker 14 (31:47):
Yes, we have actually quite a few drones ourselves in
terms of the manufacturing New Zealand, but it would be
it's a very nice offer that Ukraine has learned an
awful lot about warfare. We're using drones and they're also
they've made let's say they have learnt a lot more
than many other people have. So there's nothing wrong with

(32:09):
us actually talking to Ukraine about what those liasons are.
Impossibly some of those drones, but I think right at
the moment their drones are necessary in crime.

Speaker 2 (32:19):
Appreciate your time this morning, Minister. That's Judith Colin, c
Defense Minister. It's seven to Sex News Talks THEB Mike
with us.

Speaker 1 (32:25):
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Speaker 2 (32:34):
B Use TALKSB. It's five minutes away from Sex, So
there you go. Judith Collins on the show saying that
we have moved some of our defense force personnel in
the Middle East in the last week as a result
of what's going on in Iran. Mike will have more
coverage of this of course throughout the morning, and he's
with us.

Speaker 15 (32:48):
Now, mikeel On, well Winston Peters as well.

Speaker 7 (32:50):
This.

Speaker 15 (32:50):
Do you get the sense where sort of we we
oversell this thing. I see this as a regional thing.
I don't see it going global.

Speaker 2 (32:56):
No, well, I don't think anyone's saying it all go
global at this.

Speaker 15 (32:59):
And we're sort of, really, are we going to move
some defense personnel. We've got an old Hercules that will
park somewhere close by.

Speaker 2 (33:06):
It's a new Hercules. Well, you replaced the old one.
So this is the sea one thirty j.

Speaker 15 (33:11):
When we've got the few people out, what are they
doing in Iran? I mean sure of working for the embassy,
which we as far as I know, got a couple
of people. What are they doing in i Ran?

Speaker 2 (33:18):
Well, well, presumably they're got two passports.

Speaker 15 (33:22):
And what are you doing in that part of the
world anyway?

Speaker 2 (33:24):
You've got family there?

Speaker 15 (33:25):
Well, you're still in Israel.

Speaker 2 (33:27):
Well, we interviewed a couple the other day who work there,
you know, and the tech business got no interest in
coming back here.

Speaker 15 (33:34):
Great, and so if that's your decision and that's your life, fantastic.
You're on your own well well, I mean it's it's
sort of like that, doesn't it make your own decision,
live your own life.

Speaker 7 (33:43):
You know?

Speaker 15 (33:43):
Why are we parking planes just in case somebody wants
to let Anyway?

Speaker 2 (33:46):
When St.

Speaker 15 (33:47):
Peter's went this morning Prime Minister in Europe as well,
so he'll be joining.

Speaker 2 (33:50):
He'll be up late. He'll be up well late.

Speaker 15 (33:52):
So let's be honest, it'll be eight thirty nine o'clock
and it'll be a pair of tief time and he'll
just you don't give us.

Speaker 2 (33:57):
A call, make with your next Have a Great Day,
runs tomorrow.

Speaker 1 (34:00):
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