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July 17, 2025 • 34 mins

On the Early Edition with Andrew Dickens Full Show Podcast Friday the 18th of July 2025, jobseeker benefit numbers are continuing to climb, former welfare advisory group member Phil O'Reily shares why. 

It's final All Blacks test against the french tomorrow night at FMG stadium in Hamilton, Rugby commentator Tony Johnson shares his thoughts on the line up. 

Dairy prices around the globe are soaring and Kiwi's are footing the bill, Federated Farmers dairy chair Karl Dean tells Andrew Dickens why prices have become so high. 

Plus, UK/Europe Correspondent Vincent McAviney has the latest on the UK lowering the voting age to 16 at the next general election expected in 2029.

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
The issues, the interviews and the insight. Andrew Dickens on
an early edition with ex pole insulation, keeping kie Wei
Holmes warm and try this winter news talk.

Speaker 2 (00:11):
Sa'd be welcome Onrding to you and welcome to your Friday.
You made it. I'm Andrew Dickens and I'm here until
six and coming up on the show. Food prices are
up a butter prices are insane? What is all about?
When we make the world's best? But it shouldn't it
be the cheapest? That story in about ten minutes time.
It's the last French test this weekend and both signs
have made wholesale changes, so what can we expect. Tony

(00:32):
Johnson's joining me in fifteen. I'm going to tell you
why you should put your boy and acquire It's not
for sissies. And later more beneficiaries get jobs, but the
benefit numbers go up. So what's happening there? That story?
Just before six, We're going to have Vincent mcavenni from
the UK talking to us over the course of the morning,
correspondents from right around New Zealand and news as it breaks,
and you can have yours say by sending me a text.

(00:54):
Ninety two ninety two. Small charge applies. It's eight after five,
It's Friday, the eighteenth of July. Syria's presidency is protecting
that Druze community is a top priority in the south
of his country. More than five hundred people have been
reported killed in sectarian clashes between Dru's militias and Bedouin tribes.

(01:16):
Ahmed al Charra spoke after Israeli strikes on Damascus, warning
Syrians are not afraid of war.

Speaker 3 (01:24):
The Israeli entity resorted to a wide scale targeting of
civilian and government facilities to undermine these efforts, which greatly
complicated the situation and would have pushed things to a
wide scale escalation without the effective intervention of American, Arab
and Turkish mediations, which save the region from an unknown fate.

Speaker 2 (01:43):
So to Belgium, and tens of thousands of festivalgoers have
arrived in Belgium for a festival called tomorrow Land. But
the festival's main stage has been completely destroyed by fire.

Speaker 4 (01:55):
It left nothing for the artists to now perform on,
so of course, some of the big headline names David Getett,
Martin Garrick's Swedish House Mafia, Steve Aoki several other DJs
and other stars were set to perform.

Speaker 2 (02:10):
Yeah, there's video footage all over the internet right now.
It was a hell of a stage and it was
a hell of a fire. Organizers and says the show
must go on, and they say they focused on finding
solutions for the festival to take place without a stage.
And in the UK, the government has lowered the legal
voting age two sixteen. They did it hoping to have
the law in place by the next selection.

Speaker 1 (02:32):
When you're sixteen, you can join the armed forces.

Speaker 5 (02:35):
You know, you can have a.

Speaker 1 (02:36):
Job, you can pay taxes.

Speaker 6 (02:37):
But it just seems not right that they don't have
the right to vote.

Speaker 7 (02:41):
I feel like more could be done to ensure that
we know exactly what parties are about.

Speaker 2 (02:47):
Bless it is nine after five views and views you
trust to start your day.

Speaker 1 (02:53):
It's earlier this ship with Andrew Dickins at Expol Insulation Keeping,
Kiwi homes Ward and Dry Sweater News.

Speaker 2 (03:00):
Talk sa'd be. It's Friday, so I'm going to be
a bit loose. Today's the last time I'm doing the
show for a while. Ryan's back next week, so I'm
going to start off by talking about only fans that's right,
only fans at ten after five in the morning, you know,
only fans the X rated subscription service that hosts soft
and hard poorn from content creators. Well, this week an
article in the United States talked about the astounding number

(03:23):
of these creators. There are four million content creators worldwide,
all making slinky stuff with their phones and then posting
it online. Even more astounding the figures out of America,
which has one point four million creators, mostly age in
their twenties and thirties, and the article states, nearly ten

(03:45):
percent of American millennials, mostly women, are getting their kid
off for cash. Isn't that the most remarkable statistic. It's
sort of like Fall of Rome stuff, you know, the
world dissolving into chaos and the people turn to the
pleasure of the flashes at the beginning of the end
of days, a harbinger of the anarchy to come. It's

(04:06):
just remarkable ten percent of the millennials in America doing
this now. Obviously it's coming to New Zealand. It already has.
One Wellington woman is earning two hundred and fifty grand
a year making porn with her husband. And there's a
guy in Orkland doing it. Who drives around in a
Lamborghinea because he's made so much money, he's so famous,
his car gets keyed all the time. So why am

(04:28):
I saying this? Because you need to know about it.
And here is a warning for you, and a warning
for your kids, and an issue you may have to consider.
The millennials are getting into this because you know, it's
the collapse of traditional employment. It's a statement of their
self determination, and of course it's a bit of cash
and hard times. But if anyone in your family is
considering this, it may be a career that you're relatively

(04:51):
proud of. You have no problem with when you're young.
But the Internet is forever and one day you might
want to stand for council and before you know it,
Ray Chung is flashing all your adult content all over
the mainstream media. That's not good. So if you ever
consider only fans, please have a hymn, because it's not

(05:14):
without consequence. Z. We're all talking about Butter, aren't we
experts say we're going to have to get used to
paying more for Butter. New figure show prices have almost
doubled in the past fourteen months, latest data from Stat's
New Zealand shows the average five hundred grand block of
butter will now send you set you back eight dollars

(05:35):
and sixty cents. Look, I've seen a ten dollars block
in my supermarket. It's insane. We make this stuff. Why
are we paying so much? Well, that's a good story
and so we'll cover this in a few moments time
with the Federated Farmer's Dairy Chair. His name's Karl, and
this is news talks here b It's twelve after five.

Speaker 1 (05:51):
The news you need this morning and the in depth
analysis earlier this year with Andrew Dickens and x full
Insulation Keeping, Kiwi, Holmes and Dry.

Speaker 2 (06:00):
This Twitter news talks in me it's five fourteen. Of course,
I'm getting a whole lot of very interesting text, and
none of which I'm going to read out on air,
because get your get your minds out of the gutters people, right. Oh,
Dairy prices around the globe are soaring, but we are
also footing the bill here in New Zealand stats New
Zealand food price figure so cheese is up thirty percent

(06:21):
on last year, butter prices are up forty six point
five percent for the year. Eight dollars sixty the average
price for a block. That's up five bucks over the
last decade. So Carl Dean is up early for us,
and that's no surprise because he is the Dairy Group
chair for Federated Farmers. Morning to your Carl, morning, new
gig for you, is it?

Speaker 8 (06:42):
Yeah? Yeah, for three weeks in the role here, so
I'm definitely getting slowly getting the hang of it.

Speaker 2 (06:48):
Now, this butter thing, I know, it's good for farmers,
but it's bad for inflation. So what do you have
to say about it?

Speaker 8 (06:56):
So it's sort of an accumulation of effects. There seems
to have been a global trend towards more consumption of butter,
especially in the last five years, but especially in the
last twelve months. You know, there's been just a huge
We've just got a huge difference in the price that

(07:18):
we have.

Speaker 9 (07:18):
Now.

Speaker 8 (07:20):
You know, we normally have a high payout.

Speaker 2 (07:22):
Well the question we have a high payout.

Speaker 8 (07:25):
It's because of a very you know, the last time
we had high pouts because we had a good list
and the commodities across the board. And at the moment,
two of the commodities are standing out really well, which
is look fat and butter.

Speaker 2 (07:45):
And yeah, you know, you know the question, the question
that everybody says when they go to the supermarket is Okay,
we understand the high international export prices. We think that's awesome.
Go the farmers. Yes, you are the backbone over our economy.
We know where our food is made. This is just great. However,
at the same time, we make this stuff, and so
why do we have to pay the export price?

Speaker 8 (08:05):
Well that's a very good question, but unfortunately for New
Zealand's consumes, the trend for butter is a relatively new
one in terms of globally. You know, if you think
that's fifteen years ago when a lot of New Zealand's
dairy boom happened. Twenty years ago, milk powder plants were

(08:28):
built because they were the most efficient to make a
exportable product of raw milk. A butter plant takes a
lot of time, a lot of money to build and develop,
and you would have to wonder whether globally we are
actually had a shortage of butter and cheese processing plants.

Speaker 2 (08:48):
Okay, so is this a butter bubble? And if so,
if it is a butter bubble, will it burst or
can we get well, do we have to get used
to high butter prices going forward.

Speaker 8 (09:00):
Well, I would say, unfortunately for dairy farmers and probably
fortunately for conciers, what goes up will normally come back down. Now,
if we look in the past, normally these bubbles do
go up and then they come down down. And the
question normally is as consumed myself, I still STI buy butter.
The question is do we see how quickly do the

(09:23):
supermarkets or the wholesalers pass those drops on? Because of
the butter price drops, we all want to see that
supermarket drop least, you know for theme sent at.

Speaker 2 (09:35):
Least, Yeah, and we're going to see it in quick
time as well. And should we warn farmers to be
a bit cautious because they've had a couple of windfalls
in a row. They can't expect this to be going
forward consistently as well. They have to make smart financial decisions,
don't they.

Speaker 8 (09:52):
Yes, I mean the current hats are really built on
a loan news on door at the moment, and literally
when I look at the grafts right now, it is
literally due to butter and cheese and nook set holding
up the payout. So if those two drop way, the
payout will drop rather quickly, and we'll go back into

(10:15):
the eight dollar marks.

Speaker 2 (10:17):
So what goes eight dollars and back the eight dollars? Mate,
we won them back to the five dollars sixty paums
if you don't mind, I.

Speaker 8 (10:24):
Mean, I'm meaning for the dairy payout.

Speaker 2 (10:27):
I go to, I go to.

Speaker 8 (10:28):
Yeah, when we're a getting paid eight dollars, I think
butter was downing around. Put that five dollar Marc.

Speaker 2 (10:33):
That's right, that's right, all right, Carl, I thank you
so much for getting up earlier. Carl is the brand
new dairy chair for Federated Farmers. By the way, we've
got to deal with Canada. Canada is to honor our
dairy access now under the CPTPP dispute agreement. And according
to Todd McLay, getting this agreement means one hundred and
fifty seven million dollars more per year and export value
for New zealandery exporters. So there we go. Hey, so

(10:55):
we've got a test tomorrow and it's quite funny really
because the French are thrown like everybody that who haven't played,
and now the All Backs are as well. So what's
going to happen in this game? Tony Johnson's next.

Speaker 1 (11:07):
The first word on the News of the Day Early
edition with Andrew Dickins and x Pole Insulation keeping Kiwi
Holmes warm and dry. This winter news talks at b.

Speaker 2 (11:17):
It's a big weekend for rugby. We've got Takapuna against
North Shore in the North Harbor prem Final. It's happening
Atvauxhall Domain two forty five pm. You'll find me there,
two thousand people going. Oh, there's another game in Hamilton
as well, the final All Blacks Test against the French.
I said FMG Razors made some major changes to the
starting side. The Barrett brothers are outvoted and Scott are
off with injuries. Jeordie's being rested, Damien Mackenzie will start

(11:40):
at the number ten Jersey Rubin Love will play at
fullback at his second test. Meanwhile, the French are bringing
out all their spears that they had spare. Rubby commentator
Tony Johnson joins me. Now, good morning to you.

Speaker 9 (11:49):
Tony, Good morning Andrew.

Speaker 2 (11:52):
So who's going to win Takapuna or North Share.

Speaker 9 (11:56):
Well, I'm a north Cote man, so it doesn't really
matter to me quite so much as it to you.

Speaker 2 (12:01):
Nor is going for the three piece, so there we go.

Speaker 9 (12:03):
Oh yeah, and they'll be tough to be of.

Speaker 2 (12:05):
Course, of course wholesale changes on both sides. Is this
Test going to be a bit loose?

Speaker 9 (12:10):
Well? The All Black selectors or Scott Robertson certainly promised
to be more bold this year and they've been bold
with their selection. But with that comes I think a
considerable risk against the France team that still feel that
they can take something out of the series. They've come
here with a depleted squad and if they can go
home winning one of the three Tests, I think they'll
have something to go back and say, hey, look we've

(12:32):
achieved something here, so they will be the toughest to bowl.
I think of the three Test matches New Zealand, with
the risks they've taken, as you mentioned the first time,
I think it's only the third time in the last
one hundred and one tests that there are no barretts
in the All Black teams. There's a bunch of leadership
gone and they don't have any specialist cover at Locke

(12:54):
when you're going in against a giant, giant French team.
I think that the All Blacks have taken some risks here,
but they're honoring the commitment to give everyone a go
and to be bold.

Speaker 2 (13:04):
Who the hell's going to be our backup first five?
I'm sorry, I can't keep up.

Speaker 9 (13:09):
Well, it'll be Ruben Love, Damien McKenzie's obviously. They hope
he'll be there to run the cutter for the whole game.
Ruben Love at fullback, and that's the way they've been
selecting the team. They've been name and cover within the
starting fifteen. They're looking for flexibility, for versatility, and so
it's going to be a big night for Ruben Love.
But he's a talented player. He's a very brave player.

(13:30):
I've got no doubts about it, mackenzie. This is an
opportunity for him again to prove that he is the
guy that can run the show and be reliable as
well as his normal brilliant self in a test match.
He's got the ideal place to do it, at home,
in front of a packed out stadium, and he's got
a lot of his Chiefs teammates around him. I think

(13:51):
that there's six of them and seven of them in
the squad, which is a record for White Cottle certainly
Whitettle players. That's a key area of the game as well.
But look, I think people are excited about Reuben Love
getting the opportunity because here's such a talent.

Speaker 2 (14:09):
I'm excited about the game. I think is going to
be entertaining, but how.

Speaker 9 (14:13):
Well that element of I suppose slight mystery or uncertainty
about it, although I think a lot of the old
stages would rather say, why aren't we putting our number
one team out there to complete a clean sweep? Because
they expect the Orbles to win every single game. As
I say, he's honoring a commitment.

Speaker 2 (14:30):
Yeah, and how important does this game really on the
luge scale of things or is it just sort of
like a science experiment.

Speaker 9 (14:37):
Oh you hush your mouth. Every test match is important,
isn't it In New Zealand?

Speaker 2 (14:43):
Yeah, look, are you going to remember there's a World
Cup coming up and you need some depth.

Speaker 9 (14:47):
Well, there's also a massive Rugby Championship coming up where
they've got two tests against the spring Box in New Zealand,
so they want to make sure that their players have
all had a taste of it so far and bringing
you know, they've bought successfully some new players and I
think Fabian Holland to me has probably been the most
exciting or encouraging development that we've seen so far in

(15:09):
this season because he's just taken to Test rugby like
a duck to water. Just got to hope he let
goes the eighty minutes. But no, every Test match is
considered important. Maybe not so much to France the way
they've treated this tour, but don't worry, they will be.
They will see this as an opportunity to take something

(15:29):
from the series, to end on a positive note, go
back with something to show for it. And so that
makes it me quite a compelling match.

Speaker 2 (15:37):
Got to go, you know the game, and I thank
you so much. Tony Johnston from Sky.

Speaker 1 (15:41):
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Speaker 2 (15:45):
It me this looks have been so the COVID inquiries
on looking at MiQ. We all know that MiQ had
noble aims and notable successes, but you also know the
execution was far from perfect and many people ended out
feeling ostracized. The whole idea of this inquiry is to
find out what went wrong so we do better next time. Yesterday,
Leis Morgan, the chief operating manager of Sadima Hotels, wrote

(16:07):
an incredible piece in the Herald on the rights and
wrongs of MiQ. I want to read some of this.
He learned at a one pm briefing that his hotel
had being requisitioned for an MiQ facility. The problem is
no one told him or his team, and the first
refugees were expected that day.

Speaker 9 (16:22):
He wrote.

Speaker 2 (16:23):
The hotel in question have been closed indefinitely, meaning staff
have moved on. There were no consumables or peep peep
e on site. I'm proud to say our local staff
welcomed the first guest by eight pm that same day
with full ppe and operational procedures. These were staff who
had left the business earlier in lockdown, but came back
to bravely face an unknown health risk and the enormous
task of recommissioning our hotel all in the day, or

(16:45):
because they thought it was the right thing to do
to help save the lines of fellow New Zealanders. They
are all heroes and they deserved to be properly recognized
by the government. Damn right. There's a COVID memorial wall
in London, two hundred and fifty thousand individually hand painted
red heart. It's so moving to see it. We have
nothing like that in New Zealand. This inquiry will not

(17:07):
give everybody what they want. It will prove mi IQ
to be neither right or wrong, but it will remind
us that there were silent heroes in New Zealand who
we have not thanked nearly enough said be good news
for northand on the way, we're around the country in
the way and the UK low is the voting age
to sixteen. This is early edition.

Speaker 1 (17:31):
Get ahead of the headlines on an early edition with
Andrew Dickens and Expole Insulation keeping Kiwi homes warm and dry.
This winter news talk said being.

Speaker 10 (17:47):
Please don'tcle.

Speaker 2 (17:54):
Well, good on you what I'm to your Friday. This
is the last say that I'm doing an early edition
and this it will stint because we're back to normal
next week with Ryan coming back to the show, Mike
will be back, and Heather we'll go back to the
drivetime show. But here I am right now today in
the hot seat doing the early early breakfast show, and
a lot of people during the week, a lot of

(18:15):
people in my life go, oh, how on earth did
you get into this lark? And sometimes I think, how
the hell did I get into the situation? Sitting here
talking to you like this, and I blame my parents.
When I was eight years old, they shipped me off
to auditions for the Orkham Boys Choir. It's a choir,
thirty strong group of boy chorister's, sweet, sweet voices. I
stayed with the choir for nearly five years until my
voice broke, and even then I stayed a little bit longer.

(18:36):
I sang the alto parts in a very good falsetto,
if I do say so myself. But anyway, I loved
the Orkham Boys Choir. It was a gang. It was
like a sports team, but it wasn't sport. We sang
all over town. We sang with the New Zealand Symphony Orchestra.
We sang with Dame Jones Sutherland. We sang in Benjamin
Brittain's War Requiem. And we went on tour around New Zealand,

(18:59):
being billeted up and down the country, seeing how other
people lived. Later the choir actually toured America. I was
staying in a hotel in Hamilton. The Knight, Norman Kirk
died and I was like ten no parents. The Orkham
Boys Choir was great for me, and of course I
got into you know, drama. I got into performing, so

(19:22):
when my voice broke, I got into drama musicals and
then one day I walked into Radio b at Orkland University.
I thought, hey, here I can perform and I might
even get paid. And forty years later here I still am. Anyway,
the Orkham Boys Choir was great for me, and I
might say it could be great for your boy. And
I say all of this because the Orkham Boys Choir
is now auditioning for boys age between eight and thirteen.

(19:43):
Rehearsals are Mondays at Saint George's Hall, Ramfilly Road in Epsom.
Orkan's Boys Choir also runs annual camps, they do regional tours.
They put on performances every term and it's a load
of fun. And don't worry, it's not for sissies. It
was a tough little gang. I can tell you the
hazing was horrendous. Anyway, you want to get your kid
into this, it is great. If they're not into sport,

(20:04):
how about try and acquire email manager at Orkhamboys Choir
dot org dot and zen for an audition that's happening
in August. Or you can visit their website which is
Ukhamboys choir all the one word dot, org dot and
zend and don't ask me to sing it. It's twenty
one to six zed be well in the country. We
go Callen Proctor from Otaga, good morning to you morning Andrew.

Speaker 11 (20:27):
I was going to ask for a few lines, but.

Speaker 2 (20:29):
No, it's not going to happen. It's not going to happen.
So earthquake emergency readiness in Milford Sound, what's happening there?

Speaker 11 (20:37):
Yeah, Well, one cruise operator is stepping up their preparations
in the Sound. Southern Discoveries have become the region's first
tourism operator to equip its fleet with survival gear, which
will last them up to four days in the events
of an alpine fault. Of course, given their remoteness in
Milford Sound, I've decided to equip five coaches eating up

(21:00):
to two hundred and fifty people, with food, tools and
shelter gear for survival. Southern Discovery says the area as
well over due for a major event, so it's about
keeping guests and stuff safe. The CEO, Kerrie Walkers, says
being so remote means they're at higher risk of being
too far away from emergency services, so they're preparing for
that one percent chance of something big, and she says

(21:21):
other operators.

Speaker 2 (21:22):
Need to do the same. All right, how's your weather.

Speaker 11 (21:24):
It's minus three at our airport this morning, so it's
frosty and cold. Fine today, the high twelve.

Speaker 2 (21:30):
Great to do. I'm making conditions for the central Targo skifield.
So this is all good news tonight. Thank you. Cleia
Sherwoo from christ Churchello.

Speaker 10 (21:36):
Good morning.

Speaker 2 (21:37):
So tram Almos ran into a bollard.

Speaker 12 (21:40):
Yeah, and these bollards they you'll know them if you've
been to what the area known as the Terrace or
riverside in christ Church. They are effectively there to block
any cars going up and down the terrace, but they
can drop down automatically at set times throughout the day
in order to allow delivery vehicles to take food and
the sorts into the restaurants there. Emergency services can also

(22:01):
put them down when they need to, but importantly they're
on a schedule to allow them to drop down when
our trams go through the area. As we know, we
have lots of trams that take tourists around every day.
Now yesterday, we understand that the billiards automatically lifted too
soon and almost hit one of those trams. A representative
of the tram has actually described that to us in

(22:22):
our newsroom as a potentially catastrophic near miss. We've been
in touch with council. I've spoken with Transport Operations manager
Stephen Wright, who's confirmed those bollards have malfunctioned. They've been
locked in the down position for now because of the
lift too quickly after the tram passed. Some rapeers are
underway and we'll update you when we know.

Speaker 10 (22:41):
That they're back.

Speaker 2 (22:42):
How's your weather fine?

Speaker 12 (22:44):
With some cloud and frosts today. Northeasterly is expected this afternoon.

Speaker 2 (22:48):
A high eleven Max told joins you from Wellington, Hellimax,
good morning. So you've got some do going for the
mayoralty who doesn't pay taxes.

Speaker 13 (22:57):
They're the way things are shaping. Andrew Little maybe moonwalking
into the Maryalty here. Yes, So this is Graham Bloxham.
He's known for buying a popular community Facebook page, Wellington Live.
He's been censored by the ERA for failing to pay
more than a five thousand dollars in tax deducted from
the wages of one of his employees. His employee also

(23:18):
making other serious allegations which Blocksham denies not explored by
the authority Elsewhere. Ray Chung loses another two candidates from
his council campaign team three gone six left at our account,
of course, after his salacious email about the woman he
seeks to succeed. His political group Independent Together for Now

(23:38):
stands by him. Nominations are still open for the mayoralty
if anyone believes they have the answers in the capitol.

Speaker 2 (23:45):
Okay, sure I do it. No, no, thank you. How's
your realer?

Speaker 13 (23:50):
Mostly fine?

Speaker 2 (23:51):
Southerly's eleven high Neva written man who joins us from
walk on Hell and Eva.

Speaker 6 (23:54):
Happy Friday.

Speaker 2 (23:55):
So we got the city rail links. It was on
they'll tell you last night seven sharp was showing pictures.
It's looking like some amazing stations. But you've got some
news on this.

Speaker 6 (24:04):
Yes, well look Awk and Transports U turn. You're quite
right on this city rail link. It's been warmly welcomed,
apparently the design for the area surrounding now this is
the kardannga Ahabi station. It received strong feedback from the
community who wanted it to reinstate, you know, like certain features.
So it means Mercury Lane will operate as a pedestrian space.

(24:25):
Cross streets will have a boardwalk pathway while retaining loading
spaces for local businesses. Council of Richard Hills he's come out.
He says this should create an accessible and walkable neighborhood. Obviously,
he said, not everyone's going to be pleased about this,
but it's the best outcome for most people.

Speaker 2 (24:44):
They wanted to pedestrianize the whole area, but I know
that people who live in the area wire going, well,
that's going to attract undesirables and night night sleepers.

Speaker 6 (24:55):
Yes, that's right, So they still need those businesses still
need loading zones and drop offs and things like that,
don't they. How's Awkin's withather cloudy, scattered rain clearing around
midday to fine fifteen is a high here in Auckland today.

Speaker 2 (25:07):
And I've got some good news for Northland that the
international travel website world Atlas has named Russell is the
prettiest downtown strip in New Zealand. Russell is also the
top town for weekend getaways and Kerry Kenny has been
named as the best place to retire in New Zealand.
Good news. Certainly, you hope the place lives up to
its name. They call it the winterless North. Boy, I'd
like to go to a winterless North right now? This

(25:28):
is certainly what they call the depth of winter, is
it not? Now on the way, Yes, the UK has
lowered their voting age to sixteen. They actually did it.
Details with Vincent macavennie and we're going to talk about
the job seeker benefit numbers. They continue to climb, but
the government says eighty thousand beneficiaries found work. So what's
really happening there. That's still to come on early edition.
Here on News Talks, HEBS sixteen to.

Speaker 1 (25:48):
Six International Correspondence with Ends and Eye Insurance, Peace of
Mind for New Zealand Business.

Speaker 2 (25:56):
It is a thirteen to six and after the UK
we go Vincent McAvennie, Good morning to you.

Speaker 14 (26:01):
Good morning.

Speaker 2 (26:03):
So THERE'SFGEN data bridge. What's the latest on this?

Speaker 14 (26:06):
Yeah, this has been rumbling on for a few days now.
It's been revealed after a superinjunction, a very rare legal
procedure was lifted that a data breach detailing some Afghan
citizens who had aided British troops and other forces during
the many years that they were there doing things like

(26:27):
translation and working with them well. Their personal details and
details of their family were leaked out, putting them at risk,
and so there has been this secret scheme which has
resettled many of them here in the UK. But this
afternoon it's been discovered that the names are around one
hundred British nationals, including spies working for intelligence agencies like
MI six and members of the Special Forces, the SAS

(26:49):
and SBS. Their details were also on this spreadsheet, compromising
them because it's unclear whether or not this leak stayed
in Afghanistan or with other powers such as China or
Russia were able to get their hands on it, and
that would have identified some people whose identities should have
really remained protected.

Speaker 2 (27:08):
Meanwhile, you've actually done it. Sixteen year olds will vote
at the nixt general election in twenty twenty nine.

Speaker 14 (27:14):
Yeah, that's right, the first general election where we'll see
sixteen and seventeen year olds getting to vote. It was
something that Labor had promised in their manifesto, but it
wasn't clear when they were actually going to introduce this.
There's a bit of thinking in the party that younger
people tend to be more left leaning and so that
they could support them, but more generally a lot of
people welcoming this proposal because it does seem like a

(27:38):
lot of people, particularly older voters, are the ones only
being catered to buy the parties when it comes to elections.
Things here in the UK with what we call the
triple lock, which is a freeze on sort of changing
pension rules mean that they're pretty well protected in terms
of how they provide out the sort of recent times
in the economy, but services for young people being cut,

(28:00):
more student fees at being increased, all that kind of stuff.
People are thinking this might try to rebalance somewhat the
generational divide that we're seeing here in the UK.

Speaker 2 (28:09):
Yeah, going to come up. There's going to be some
left leading parties are going to come up with some
pretty wacky policies. I mean, like you know, free minecraft
and upgrades for every kid because they think they might
actually get them some votes. So good luck. Do you
have a great weekend. Vincent mcavini, and I thank you
for your time today. It is now eleven to.

Speaker 1 (28:24):
Six News Talks.

Speaker 13 (28:26):
It'd be the job.

Speaker 2 (28:28):
Seeker benefit numbers are out, So the benefit numbers are
going up. We're getting more beneficiaries, but most figures show
that eighty thousand beneficiaries have found new work, yet the
number of people at the main benefit has risen six
point six percent. Is there a disconnect there? What's that about?
It currently means there's over four hundred thousand people in

(28:50):
New Zealand on a main benefit, twelve percent of the
working age population as paid by the state. Pill O'Reilly
as a former member of the Welfare Expert Advisory Group
and joins me now for your fill good morning. What's
happening here?

Speaker 5 (29:03):
Well, it's a bit like you're emptying your bath and
there's water coming out to bath, but someone's pouring a
big bucket at the front end, so the bath keeps
on rising even though some water's going at the back end.
So what's happening is that eighty thousand people have found work,
but more than that have come through the other end
to apply for unemployment benefits. And if you look at
the numbers, as usual, you see young people over represented.

(29:24):
They're aiding to twenty four year olds. That's the same
in New Zealand everywhere else in the world. As you
get these unemployment events, those who've got no experience, of course,
of our little experience are the most impacted because you know,
why would you hire them if you could hire an
experienced person in this labor market. So that's really what's
going on. And the government's arguing that their sanctions regime
has meant that if they're for hadn't then there more

(29:44):
people would have been on the doll or on these
benefits than otherwise would be the case. And I kind
of buy that in the circumstance, so that they're probably
doing much the right thing in the sense of trying
to get more people back into work.

Speaker 2 (29:55):
Yeah, but to get people back into work, you don't
need sanctions. You need jobs. And to get job To
get jobs, you need a good economy. And do we
have a good economy right now.

Speaker 5 (30:05):
Well no. In fact, one of the reasons why those
numbers are leaking up is because the tough times have
gone for so long. Employers would tend to try to
hold onto people for a whole bunch of good reasons,
including the cost of replacing them when the time comes,
And the fact that these numbers are increasing suggest that
employers are just finding it too tough to do that
and are letting people go, and that's they wouldn't have

(30:25):
been doing that if the economy had turned around sooner.
So really this is a question about the government getting
on and reinvigorating growth through kind of some public spending,
for example, some new roads and so on, trying to
reinvigorate the construction sector's seventeen hoursand jobs lost out of
the construction sector in the last eighty months, and really
working with business to make sure that happens faster rather

(30:45):
than slower.

Speaker 2 (30:47):
Yes, I saw that the government just summarily stopped two
hundred and twelve clay or A building projects which was
going to create what was that about two and a
half thousand houses and guess who makes the houses. That's
builders and the construction industry. So there are no jobs.
And I've always said if the government doesn't want to
invest in New Zealand, why should anybody overseas do it.

Speaker 5 (31:06):
Well, that's right. There's been a lot of promises made
to the construction sector, not just the housing sector, but
also the roading sector and infrastructure sector to say these
things are coming. But the complaints out of the sector
are that they have taken a long time, and goodwill,
that's fantastic, but you know, let's get on. Some of
them are starting to unwind now, but of course they
don't have a job's impactful little while. Even if you're

(31:26):
about to start a road, are about to start a
housing project, the jobs aren't there yet, which all demonstrates
that we're going to see a recovery, hopefully later this year,
maybe early next year, but it's a long time between
drinks for employers and of course those who are sitting
on that unemployment benefit.

Speaker 2 (31:40):
Well, thank you, you've been brilliant. Thank you for being
very awakened, very alert, and very lucid. And I love it.
And it's seven minutes to six, and here there's next
here on News Talks.

Speaker 1 (31:47):
EDDB, on your radio and online on iHeartRadio early edition
with Andrew Dickens and ex Fole Insulation keeping kigh we
Holmes warm and dry this winter News Talks.

Speaker 2 (31:59):
He'd be a little bit of semi breaking news. Have
just seen that the White House has said that President
Donald J. Trump is being medically checked for his swelling ankles.
And I know that there's a whole lot of people
on the left have been going crazy about Donald's health condition,
his swelling ankles and other signs that he might be
getting congenital heart failure. But they wish they.

Speaker 10 (32:19):
Sign, isn't it It's a sign that your heart is
a bit dodgy things. Actually, it could be pregnant.

Speaker 2 (32:28):
He could do anything, mat Heather, I've enjoyed working with Andrew.
You're good And this sounds like an obituary.

Speaker 9 (32:35):
Man.

Speaker 2 (32:35):
Yeah, well I'm going Ryan's back next week, and you're
back to your normal show next week. So here I
walk in this morning and Heather's got a netball and
she's been given a net volleyball, okay, and she's been
given it as a promo for a TV program and
she goes, smell this, and so we smelled it, and
new ball's new sporting equipment just smells. I've been trying to.

Speaker 7 (32:55):
Think why it is that a ball, a leather ball,
smells delicious. And I think it's because it reminds you
of your childhood.

Speaker 2 (33:02):
Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, you know, and it's just so new.
Because I started thinking about when you buy a new
piece of electronic equipment and you open up the box
and it's so beautifully hermetically sealed, and you open up
and then and then you smell it. And I walked
into a library yesterday and I walked in, I went
I can smell books and the old factory. The old
factory thing is under reestimated. It's really really brings up
some memory.

Speaker 7 (33:21):
Actually, I hope my neighbor doesn't listen to news talk.
He's American, so he may not. But he's got a
candle in his house that is so powerful that.

Speaker 10 (33:31):
This is without a word of a lie.

Speaker 7 (33:33):
You can smell it down the road like you can
smell it from probably about fifteen meters away.

Speaker 10 (33:38):
That's that's that comes into my house.

Speaker 2 (33:40):
That's a lot. You can't talk to him about that
because he'll invite you around and say, let's start meditating. Hey,
look here's the music. What are you doing?

Speaker 10 (33:46):
Welfare? Four hundred thousand of us are on the.

Speaker 2 (33:49):
Dull twelve percent of our popular.

Speaker 10 (33:51):
Until we're going to talk to the ministry.

Speaker 2 (33:54):
Economy stupid. Love your work, Love.

Speaker 10 (33:56):
Your work, you too, Andrew Nice.

Speaker 2 (33:58):
Oh I'm Cary. Next week, by the way, Bonza.

Speaker 1 (34:10):
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