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August 14, 2025 34 mins

On the Early Edition with Ryan Bridge Full Show Podcast Friday 15th of August 2025, All eyes are on Alaska ahead of a crucial meeting between Trump and Putin, US Correspondent Toni Waterman is in Alaska and has the latest. 

The All Blacks are taking on Argentina in Córdoba, former All Black Josh Kronfeld shares his thoughts ahead of the game. 
Sheep and beef cattle numbers are improving, Federated Farmers Meat and Wool Chairperson Richard Dawkins shares his thoughts. 

Plus UK/ Europe Correspondent Vincent McAviney has the latest on President Zelensky visits Prime Minister Sir Keir Starmer at Downing Street.  

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
The issues, the interviews and the insight. Ryan Bridge on
Earlieritia with one Root Love where you live News talks.

Speaker 2 (00:09):
That'd be good morning. It is Friday, six after five.
Great to have your company this morning. Coming up on
the show this Trump Putin meeting. What is Putin's game plan?
We'll go to Alaska. We're in London as well, where
stars meeting with Zelensky. Ahead of that chat in Alaska,
we'll go to Josh Confeld on his predictions for the
abs in Argentina. Team namings happening today. Pine trees are

(00:32):
holding back sheep numbers in New Zealand. The live stock
decline is slowing, but it's still not positive. We'll look
at that shortly. And AI is inventing antibiotics. We've got
a story, a fascinating story actually out of the UK
for you this morning.

Speaker 1 (00:47):
On that.

Speaker 2 (00:47):
It is seven alf to five, the agenda fright out
th of August. Russia's delegation is on its way to Alaska.
Trump says there's a twenty five percent chance of success
and the White House will try everything for a deal.

Speaker 3 (01:01):
I don't know that we're going to get an immediate easpyer,
but I think it's going to come.

Speaker 2 (01:05):
I'm more interested in immediate peace deal getting.

Speaker 4 (01:07):
Piece fed, and depending on what happens with my.

Speaker 2 (01:11):
Meeting, I'm going to be calling the President Zelenski.

Speaker 3 (01:15):
And let's get him over to wherever we're.

Speaker 2 (01:17):
Going to meet. Well, Zelenski himself is actually in Downing
Street with Starma.

Speaker 5 (01:21):
The area of discussion this morning with Keir Starmer and
Valdimir's Lensky was on security guarantees, and as we had earlier,
Marca Rivial, the American Secretary of State, is talking about
security guarantees too. That would be seen by Europe as
positive that they're moving America towards perhaps some kind of
security backstop, but it doesn't necessarily mean they're there yet.

Speaker 2 (01:41):
All right, guards of the world's talking about recognizing a
Palestinian state. Well, this could throw a spanner in the works.
Israel now plans to build entire new homes and settlements.
This is thousands of new houses in the occupied West Bank.
This would split the territory in two. Israel's far right
finance minister, he who we have sanctioned, says it would
permanently bury the idea of a Palestinian state.

Speaker 6 (02:04):
Australia Canada and others plan to recognize a Palestinian state,
and that far right finance minister Bittsalo Smutrich says they
may have their dreams of a Palestinian state effectively, but
his reality is to create facts on the ground and
make this, or try to make this at least irreversible.

Speaker 2 (02:24):
Now, this is your Swifty update this morning, courtesy of
our producer Mackenzie, who's clearly obsessed. Swifty's finally been able
to breathe a sigh of relief. Now the full two
hour podcast with Taylor Swift and her boyfriend Travis Kelsey
has been released. She gave more details on a new
album and also how she met Travis.

Speaker 7 (02:42):
Why are you coming on the show?

Speaker 2 (02:44):
Why what are you doing?

Speaker 8 (02:46):
There's so many better things to do at your time.

Speaker 9 (02:48):
This podcast has done a lot for me. I owe
a lot of this podcast. This podcast got me a
boyfriend ever since Travis decided to use it as his
personal dating app about two years ago.

Speaker 8 (03:00):
Worked pretty good.

Speaker 3 (03:01):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (03:03):
The first word on the News of the Day early
edition with Ryan Bridge and One Roofe Love Where You Live.

Speaker 2 (03:10):
News Talk said b must be the longest relationship she's
had in a very long time. I'm just looking at
McKenzie here for affirmation because she normally they last two days.
This one's been going for what a couple of years? Now, Yeah,
she's going strong, good on her nine minutes after five now.
Yesterday we spoke about Trump's game plan ahead of this
big meeting in Alaska. Can you imagine Anchorage is not

(03:32):
a big place. They fly tiny planes in there. I'm
assuming there's a military base where they're going to land
all the big aircraft from Russia and from the Washington
But it's a small place. Imagine living there and just
walker and then Putin. Vladimir Putin is coming to your
tiny little town. Very bizarre for them. Anyway, we spoke
about Trump's game plan yesterday. You know, he's saying, this

(03:54):
is setting the table for a second meeting between Zelenski
and Putin and me if you want me. And he's
talking about the repercussions. You know, if they don't agree
to this, or don't agree to more talks, there will
be consequences for the Russians. All this kind of stuff.
But what's Putin's game plan? One of the Kremlin's advisors
has been briefing the press on what their angle is

(04:17):
going to be with Trump, and basically it's quite simple.
They're going to appeal to his business instincts, which is
his first and only instinct. Really, Putin's going to offer
financial incentives to Trump. This advisor says there's huge untapped
potential of US Russia relations. He's actually taking two of
his big wig economic advisors with him. He's taking his

(04:39):
finance minister, which is a big sign. The big sticking
points though really you know Kiev's NATO membership, which is
possible in the future, territory and sanctions. But clearly they
are going to try and charm Trump. And you know,
if you do this, if you let us have this land,
if we do, then we can do this for you.
So it's going to be a business meeting as much

(05:00):
as it is a diplomatic one. Eleven after five, talk
about the state of our dairy industry, well, sheep and beef.
Actually we'll talk about that next because the Select committees
come back with some recommendations about what do you do
with all the forestry that's coming in and taking up
the farmland. There's new numbers out this morning which will

(05:21):
bring you and speak to fed farmers about can we
arrest that decline in our sheep numbers? If we are
to double our exports as the government keeps saying we
should be doing, can we do it with the amount
of pine trees we have growing in this country? Right now?
Twelve after five News TALKSB.

Speaker 1 (05:40):
Get ahead of the headlines on early edition with Ryan
Bridge and one roof Love where you Live News TALKSB five.

Speaker 2 (05:48):
Fourteen on News TALKSB nine two ninety two is the
numbers text love to hear from you this morning on
our points of discussion. You know, what do you think
is going to happen with this Trump putin meeting. I'm
going to talk to Josh Coonfeld on the ABS and
Argentina next right now. If you remember, back in May,
stats in ZID data showed sheep numbers had fallen twenty
one percent, beef cattle by thirteen percent. This is over

(06:09):
the past decade. Well now, Beef and LAMB says for
the year ending June, this is the year ending June,
sheep numbers fell by just one percent. Beef cattle rose
actually up four point four percent. So what does all
this mean? Richard Dawkins as Fed Farmers Meat and whel
chair with us this morning, Richard, Good morning.

Speaker 10 (06:27):
Yeah, good morning, Ryan.

Speaker 2 (06:28):
Hey, what do you make of these numbers?

Speaker 10 (06:31):
Yeah, it's great to see. That's like recovery, isn't it.
But it's just important to understand the nuance of these
figures and the overall trend.

Speaker 2 (06:40):
I suppose what is the nuance.

Speaker 10 (06:44):
So we're seeing a recovery and numbers due to the
rebuild after cyclone Gabrielle and also a couple of regions
coming out of drought last year, so so restocking on
capital stock. But yeah, we're obviously still concerned with that
general trend over the last two or three years, which

(07:05):
shows us down about one and a half million stock units.

Speaker 2 (07:08):
Because we've got obviously export prices increasing. We've got that
part of the equation seems to be looking good. But
what's holding it back? Is it all forestry or what?

Speaker 7 (07:21):
Oh?

Speaker 10 (07:21):
Look, there's there's no doubt the sector is in a
really good space, Ryan, and it's fantastic to see. We
have to see these that we have to enjoy these
positive times returns wise, the higher schedules are combined with
some easing of farm working expenses, but also interest rates
coming down, so that's good timing. But look, the major

(07:44):
concern for the sheep and beef sector, particularly right now
is this Climate Change Amendment Bill and preventing those wholesale
conversions to carbon forestry.

Speaker 2 (07:55):
What exactly is wrong because there's I've seen fed farmers
say so not happy with some of the changes from
the Select Committee about conversion. What exactly is wrong here?

Speaker 10 (08:07):
Yeah, Look, so I want to be really clear. We
support the intent of the bill. We think the Coalition
government is trying to do the right thing, but I'm
just not sure if possibly they're across all of the details.
So the and I want to be clear too, Ryan,
this is actually a restriction on people's ability to claim

(08:28):
carbon credits. It's not actually a restriction on their ability
to plant trees. But the reality is the protections are
mostly on classes one to five, and only twelve percent
of the whole farm conversions were actually on that country.
So the majority of our sheep and be farms sixty

(08:48):
six percent of our sheep and BF farms are on
classes and classes six and seven, which don't have those restrictions.

Speaker 2 (08:55):
So you would be able to claim credits on land
that you think should be fund.

Speaker 10 (09:03):
So the way the bill stands, if you plant your
entire property in trees, you could only claim credits on
twenty five percent of that area. So look, if it's
the right tree in the right place, and there's a
commercial demand for that timber, there's nothing stopping you doing that. However,
it should prevent sheep of beef farms being lost due

(09:27):
to the ets and that carbon value, but like I said,
it doesn't extend to where the majority of the sheep
and beef farms actually.

Speaker 2 (09:35):
Are, right, gotcha. So the government obviously wants to double
our exports. Sheep and beef will have to be a
big part of that. Is this you know, what is
it that would stop us from or prevent us from
doing that or do you think we can?

Speaker 10 (09:49):
Yeah, like I said, Ryn, we support the intent of
the villain, And yeah, like you've mentioned, they want to
double exports. So it's sort of strange. It appears they're
siding with polluters over produce uses. So I mean, the
simple solution to me would be actually just extend that
twenty five percent restriction across all land use classes. It's

(10:13):
very strange they have chosen to use that land use
capability class system and that started being developed in the
fifties for soil conservation reasons. It was never designed for legislation,
so I'm just not sure how that would work in reality.

Speaker 2 (10:30):
Richard, appreciate your time this morning. Thanks mate, Richard Dawkins
fed Farmer's Meat and Wool chair. It is nineteen minutes
after five news talks. He'd be We'll get to Josh
Confeld next on the ABS in Argentina, on.

Speaker 1 (10:41):
Your radio and online on Iheard Radio Early Edition with
Ryan Bridge and One Route Love where you live.

Speaker 2 (10:49):
News talks had been five twenty one on your Monday.
Sorry your Friday morning. That was a bit scary for you,
wasn't it? A good text from Juliam. We'll get to
that shortly and we'll be in Alaska before six. We're
into Round one of the Rugby Championship. The AB's face
Argentina Sunday morning. It's nine o'clock our time. At nine
am our time, the Aussies take on South Africa and
Joe Burg and the All Black team naming happens eight

(11:11):
point thirty this morning. Josh Croonfeld is a former All
Black on the show this morning. Good morning, Josh, good morning,
you've I you preved the got me on too early, mate. Sorry,
I'm sorry about that. It's a god awful hour of
the day, isn't it. But I appreciate you being here.

Speaker 8 (11:27):
Josh.

Speaker 2 (11:28):
Hey, we obviously waiting on the team naming later this morning.
We know, with injuries Roy guards out, are you expecting
any surprises?

Speaker 8 (11:38):
Ah, Look no, no, Look I don't think so. We've
definitely you know, Rais has been very forthcoming about this
whole four four thing, and you know, I think four
guys ready to go on the cab in any position.

(11:58):
And the way he he's you know, juggled his injuries,
you know, bringing a lock over for to replace the
loose ford and shifted you know, a lock into loose
for positions and stuff like that, just to get a
feel for you know that he's got players ready to go.

(12:20):
So him maybe picking you know, the new something Simon Parker,
bringing him across him picking that to play against Argy
wouldn't be the wrong thing to do, you know. So no,
I don't think we'll see any surprises into Maybe in

(12:40):
terms of combinations, we might, but I count see, Look,
everybody's picking themselves by the way they're playing.

Speaker 2 (12:47):
Basically, what about the we've never lost Argentina and Argentina
no chance of that happening, do you think.

Speaker 8 (12:58):
Look, there's always the chance of it happening. I mean
it was krikey the Giant Killers now, you know, like
they've beaten all the top ten nations and it all
depends on who turns up where. And I'm like, you know,
playing over in the country just just bolsters the nation,

(13:20):
you know, like and everybody's there. I mean, they've got
a fanatic crowd and it just it's the whole. Unfortunately,
I've never played over there, so I can't say exactly
what it's like. But we've got to be so in
our game now. Any any sort of slip up or

(13:41):
we just don't quite turn up, we're not quite there,
you know, they'll sneak in and get a win. We
have to be switched on, ready to go when we
travel in these countries.

Speaker 2 (13:55):
Yes days, well I'm hoping they're fully switched. On Sunday morning, Josh,
I appreciate you. Are you still in bed?

Speaker 8 (14:04):
I wondered those getting this question. Yes that I said
the love on five o'clock and then I got up
and then then got back into bed. Yeah. No, yeah,
there's no way when I don't have to be up
till seven o'clock. I'm raised around the house getting my
jobs done.

Speaker 2 (14:23):
I'm going to let you go back to sleep. Josh,
you got you got an hour and a half enjoyed.

Speaker 8 (14:28):
I don't won't be going just leave may I'll just
do a little bit of stuff. Just givee get my
brain organized ready to go for the day. Mate. That's
just how it works.

Speaker 2 (14:39):
Appreciate your time. We're looking forward to Sunday morning Team
naming eight thirty. This morning Josh Confeld, former All Black.
It is twenty five after five News Talks be we'll
talk Ozsie house prices next and the you know, the
relationship here between house prices and wealth quite a significant one.
So what's happening across the Tasmen very interesting at the moment.
We'll look at that next, and we'll get to Vincent

(15:00):
mcavhnie who's in the UK for us after news at
five point thirty the.

Speaker 1 (15:04):
Early edition Full the Show podcast on iHeartRadio, Power by News.

Speaker 2 (15:08):
Talks AB News TALKSB twenty seven after five question, what's
the point in US having more affordable property prices for
your first home buyer? If young workers are jetting off
to Australia in search of a better tomorrow. There's a
bit of a perverse logic to this. But across the
Tasman right now they're experiencing something of a property boom.
It's the opposite of the stagnant or falling prices that

(15:31):
we're seeing here in New Zealand, where homes of most
regions are actually now considered technically actually considered affordable. In Sydney,
the median price of a new pad will jump seven
percent this year through to June to two point one
million New Zealand dollars. If you want to be a
Melbourne hipster, prices will rise six percent there in the

(15:53):
year to June one point two million dollars the median.
They've got a problem now which we know too well.
Prices are squeezing out first home buyers there. You can't
get on the ladder for love nor money. Look at
new loans from banks landlords, two hundred thousand new loans
over the year. That's the most since twenty twenty two.

(16:15):
First home mortgages they're down to one hundred and sixteen
thousand because they're cutting interest rates there. Houses are you know,
money is becoming more affordable for those with equity, your
existing homeowners, all your landlords. Typically this is seen as
the problem. You want people to have a stake in
their country, and the best way to do that is
owning a piece of it. But property is inextricably linked

(16:39):
to the success of our economy here in New Zealand.
Falling and flat house prices here are not actually a
great news story, are they. The wealth effect of the
biggest asset that most of us own informs our spending habits.
When we feel richer, we go swipe the credit card.
When we don't, we don't. So the question is are

(16:59):
you better off having affordable homes and a country which
young people can't find a job, or are you better
off in a country where homes are less affordable but
wages are higher and the economy is stronger. The answer
lies in the number of Kiwis who are voting with
their feet and buggering off across the Tasman twenty nine

(17:19):
After five News Talks THEBB Alaska Before six.

Speaker 1 (17:25):
News and Views You Trust to start your day. It's
earlier edition with Ryan Bridge and one roof Love. Where
You Live News Talks at B.

Speaker 2 (17:36):
The conversations. Good morning, three five away from six year
on News Talks Hebb. It is Friday morning and it's
great to have your company. Big day for diplomacy hopefully
tomorrow in Alaska. Will head there for the latest just
before six o'clock this morning. We'll also be in London
where Starma has been meeting with Zelenski. This is from Ken. Ryan,

(17:56):
Trump and Putin are meeting at a military base in
Anchor because I was wondering how where are they all
going to fly into? You know, which airport are they
going to be using. They're actually meeting at a military
base in Anchorage flying and shouldn't be a problem. Anchorage
itself has an airport capable of handling huge cargo aircraft.
Love the update, Ken. This is from We're just talking

(18:17):
about the cost of property in New Zealand the Australia,
and you know, young people are upping sticks and moving
across the Tasman even though there house prices are way
more expensive and are increasing at a faster rate. But
they're going for jobs, right. You need a job before
you get a house, so that's what they're going for. Brian.

(18:38):
Not sure how we can afford to build more affordable
homes in this country when building products are amongst the
highest and most expensive in the world. Same goes for
the sections. I've been a builder for forty years, says
this text. The section price used to be about twelve
percent of the build. It's now up around forty percent.
And it's not like we don't have enough land in
this country. Good point twenty three to six.

Speaker 1 (19:00):
Brian Bridge are reporters.

Speaker 2 (19:02):
Around the country. Callum Proctor and dned and Colum Good Morning,
Waning Ri. Last chance for anyone wanting to get their
hands on the Kadrona Hotel. Last chance today it is Yes.

Speaker 11 (19:12):
This is the one hundred and sixty two year old
heritage listed hotel and restaurant, the famous Kadrona Hotel. It's
been on the market for five weeks and the deadlines today.
There has been ten interests from both New Zealanders and
foreign buyers from the US, Singapore and Australia. Apparently listening
on trade Mean has been the third most popular live

(19:34):
listing this year. It's had more than one hundred and
thirty thousand views. The owners are Cad and Alexis Thornton.
They tell us that the buyer inquiries surpass their expectations
and they're looking forward to announcing details of a sale
in the coming weeks. They've narrowed their discussions to eight
groups and it's looking promising they'll find a highly skilled
buyer to do great things for the hotel and keep

(19:55):
it going.

Speaker 2 (19:55):
Great, good piece of iconic New Zealand. How's your weather?

Speaker 11 (20:00):
Good Friday today fine, Westerly's easing and sixteen the high
nice one.

Speaker 2 (20:04):
Thanks Callum Clears and christ Church clear good morning, Good morning.
This woman who's been arrested at Christchiach Airport over the
student loan debt is quite an.

Speaker 12 (20:11):
Old one, yeah, from more than twenty years ago. This
is a forty nine year old woman who lives in
Australia but had flown back to the South Island to
spend some time with family earlier this month. On Monday,
she was just clearing security at christ Church Airport. The
bags were already checked in. She was ready to go
with her family when she was tapped on the shoulder
and told that she wouldn't be returning to Australia. In fact,

(20:33):
she was taken under arrest to the Central Police Station
and then into court. She has been released on bail
after appearing before a magistrate. But this is because of
her outstanding student loan. It is more than fifty thousand
dollars though it's more than twenty years old. Her lawyer
and former IRD prosecutor Dave Anantha says he's now negotiating

(20:53):
for the woman to get a bank loan so she
can pay IRD. They won't accept anything other than payments
before they will return her passport now, he says, Look,
he's surprised by their response and how heavy handed it was,
although the law does allow it, and Arthur is now
encouraging other people not to bury their heads in the sand.
Don't leave your student loan to the last minute. Engage

(21:13):
with the ID and Land Revenue has confirmed the arrest happened,
says it's limited though in what it can say due
to privacy and the fact that's before the court.

Speaker 2 (21:21):
Interesting, either you pay it or you just don't come home. Ah,
how's your weather fine?

Speaker 12 (21:27):
With a frosty start again northeast of these developing and
the high will be sixteen.

Speaker 2 (21:31):
Thanks. Claire. Claudia O'Neill has our Wellington News this morning. Claudia,
good morning, good morning. What's this sludge? Plant cost blowout.

Speaker 7 (21:39):
Yes, so this facility is intended to treat the capital's wastewater.
The project's current cost has climbed to between four hundred
and seventy eight million and five hundred and eleven million
dollars since initially being said two hundred million in twenty
twenty two. It works out to more than six thousand,
six hundred dollars per household and was initially planned to
be paid for by a targeted rate over the third years.

(22:00):
Council is now exploring other funding options, including taking on
more debt.

Speaker 2 (22:05):
How's the weather.

Speaker 7 (22:07):
It's fine with morning frost, northerlies and a higher fourteen degrees.

Speaker 2 (22:10):
Nice one Coaudia, Thank you, Laudia. Oneil with our willing
to news this morning. And Neva is in our Auckland studio, Neva,
good morning, morning right cracking down Auckland Council cracking down
on dog owners, I hope not me.

Speaker 13 (22:23):
Is your dog a fighter?

Speaker 2 (22:24):
No? No, she wouldn't, dare.

Speaker 13 (22:27):
Yes, I've seen photos of your little weak dog.

Speaker 6 (22:29):
Dear.

Speaker 2 (22:29):
What's your name? Fanny?

Speaker 12 (22:31):
Fanny? Love it?

Speaker 9 (22:32):
Yeah?

Speaker 13 (22:33):
Good on Fanny. Well no this isn't about Fanny, but yes,
we can tell you that the Organd Council has made
six hundred and eleven prosecutions. Now this is since twenty twenty,
targeting owners with dogs that have seriously injured people or
other animals. Now, nearly three thousand dog attacks and over
fifteen thousand cases of roaming dogs they've been reported in Auckland.

(22:54):
This is over the last five actual years, so that's
quite a few. So this is this is good though,
over this crackdown. Robert Irvine, he's the council's general manager.
He's saying nearly thirteen hundred of these. So that's of
the dog intakes. Of the three thousand we're on people
for goodness sake, that's based on what they're reporting. But
you know, he reckons the real number will be a.

Speaker 2 (23:16):
Lot more more and you just don't report it.

Speaker 13 (23:18):
Well, that's right, especially in what is it you know,
West Auckland. Well it's all over really as South Auckland.

Speaker 6 (23:23):
You know.

Speaker 2 (23:24):
Yeah, Wayne Brown's quite ferocious. What if we got him
to go and bark back at you know, b back
at the dogs, send him out there, I think that'd
be quite affect I think it would. He's not willing
to debate anyone. Have you seen that. Yes, no, not
going to debate.

Speaker 13 (23:38):
The Is he talking to you?

Speaker 3 (23:40):
No?

Speaker 2 (23:40):
No, Well there's there's talk of potentially a debate being held,
but I'm not sure that.

Speaker 13 (23:46):
He's you'd be good with him, you'd ask to ask
hard questions about the dogs. Keep it funny.

Speaker 2 (23:54):
How's the weather fine?

Speaker 13 (23:55):
But the areas of early fog, I said, frog out
there in the news of early fog and frost. Today's
igh fifteen?

Speaker 2 (24:01):
All right, neither aight. We got there Friday morning, eighteen
away from six on News Talk ZBB. Lots of people
texting in about the dog. Now the dog's name, It
was just a I don't know why we called the
dog Fanny. I guess with two blokes in the house,
we thought there should be one at home. News talks Hebb.
It is quarter to six. Great to have your company

(24:22):
this morning. We'll get to Alaska shortly on the Trump
Putin meeting. First we're heading to our UK europe correspondent
Vincent mcavniy, who's with us. Vincent, Good morning. Now we
have a separate meeting taking place. This is Zelensky and
Starmer meeting at Downing Street ahead of Trump Putin meeting.
What are they talking about.

Speaker 3 (24:44):
Yeah, that's right. Zelenski has on a mini tour. He
was in Berlin yesterday and did a telephone off lots
of European leaders and President Trump as well ahead of
that Alaska meeting. Today he was in London going into
Number ten Downing Street and whilst we didn't hear directly
from him, all the Prime Minister to Kirs Starmer, this
was a big show of diplomatic support from Britain prime ministers.

(25:09):
He came out and greeted Lenski, giving him a big hug.
They went in taught for a round an hour and
normally when a leader leaves they'll just exit Downing Street themselves,
get traded in their car and go. But actually the
Kiir Starmer came out. Lensky didn't answer any of the
questions being yelled at them, but sort of mister Lensky
wave mister Starmer waved him off and we had statements

(25:30):
since saying that they are powered, they have a powerful
sense of unity and a strong result just enough. They're
just hoping to play things out as carefully well.

Speaker 2 (25:43):
Robie, we'll have to leave Vincent there on Fred Vincent
mcavini are UK. You're correspondent with US, but on a
bit of a dodgy line. This morning, thirteen minutes away
from six quick update for you, this is on New
Zealand now joining well potentially joining other states and recognizing
the state of Palestine. The Yussie is saying they're going
to do it come Hallow high Water in September, and

(26:04):
a couple of other states doing that as well, including
the UK. So we are considering doing that. We'll make
a decision over the next month. And the United Nations
has come out and said that just just be careful.
I mean, it is a good thing to recognize the
state of Palestine, obviously that would be the UN's position,
but just be careful that you don't let that distract
from the real issue, which is the starving children and

(26:26):
families in Gaza. So they have said that prolonged debate
around you know, Palestinian statehood has so far yielded zero
political progress. The illegal settlements and occupied territories are still progressing.
So it's not a be all, end all band aid solution.
It's eighteen sorry, twelve minutes away from six. Now all

(26:48):
eyes on Alaska, as we said, as Trump prepares to
meet with putin. Trump says, there's a twenty five percent chance,
just to twenty five percent chances meeting will end in failure.
But will you be able to get a cease fire
across the line? Is that even the goal of this
first meeting. Tony Waterman is US correspondent, feature story and
news in Alaska for US this morning. Tony, Welcome to

(27:08):
the show. First of all, what's it like there right now?

Speaker 4 (27:14):
Well, there's a lot of media, as you would imagine
here in Anchorage, a lot of people waiting outside the
Air Force base where these talks are going to be
taking place on Friday. I was downtown in Anchorage last
evening and there's just a lot of buzz. People are
excited that this meeting is taking place here. It kind
of is this prominence of Alaska hosting these types of

(27:37):
very important diplomatic get togethers that they have really a
long history of doing. And don't forget that Alaska at
its closest point is just about eighty eight kilometers away
from Russia, so it's the closest US state to Moscow
or to Russia. And for Trump, it seems that this

(27:58):
made sense to him to have this meeting here at
the Elmendorff Richardson Air Force Base, and.

Speaker 2 (28:04):
We are hearing from some of Potion's paper when the
Kremlin that this is his focus is going to be
very much economic. He's going to try and play to
Trump's you know, business ecumen and come with a couple
of economic advisors. His finance ministers going what can we
rate into that.

Speaker 4 (28:24):
Well, there's reports that Trump himself is going to put
forward some sort of economic incentive package to Putin, So
that may be why Putin is bringing those economic advisors,
and he probably has a couple of things up his
sleeve as well to kind of tap into Trump's feeling
that he is, you know, this big business man. But

(28:45):
the Telegraph is reporting that Trump is considering granting Russia
access to Alaskan natural resources and lifting some of these
sanctions on the Russian aviation sector, also potentially allowing Russia
to access rare earth minerals in the territories that it
already occupies. In Ukraine, so Ukraine has these vast mineral reserves,

(29:09):
lithium in particular, which is used in rechargeable batteries. Trump
himself struck a deal with Ukraine in a mineral's agreement
just a couple of months ago, giving Washington access to
these mineral wealth. And also there's talk that Trump is
considering allowing Russia to develop these natural resources in the
Bearing Strait. This is that a very narrow body of

(29:31):
water that separates Alaska from Russia, and it's believed that
thirteen percent of the world's oil reserves actually resides in there.
So this is an incentive for Putin to in Trump's mind,
take these negotiations very seriously, particularly since the Russian economy
has been so decimated because of sanctions. But it also

(29:52):
again appeals to Trump as a businessman.

Speaker 2 (29:55):
Tony Trump has told about sickened a very quick sickend mache.
Are people they're expecting that it could actually happen, you know,
all in one go.

Speaker 4 (30:06):
No, that's not the expectation on the ground that this
would come immediately after. I mean, Trump is going to
fly in on Friday and fly out on Friday. This
is a very fast turnaround for him. But he said
that if these talks do go well, that he would
like to broker a second meeting very soon between the
Ukrainian President Vlodimar Zelenki, who of course is not invited

(30:29):
to these talks taking place on Friday and with Putin,
and Trump said, if they want me there, I'll be there.
But his real goal here is to try to get
some sort of ceasefire in place that paves the way
for a permanent peace deal. But as we have come
very close to this meeting, Trump and his team are

(30:50):
continuously trying to tamper down expectations. They're calling it now
a listening exercise that Trump is going to go into
the room. He's going to really try to feel out
Putin and see if he's serious. And if he's not serious,
Trump says that he's going to impose very severe consequences.
He hasn't said exactly what those consequences will be, and
of course he has threatened this kind of stuff in

(31:11):
the past and has never followed through. But the goal
here is to kind of get this process underway.

Speaker 2 (31:16):
Tony, appreciate your analysis this morning. Tony Waterman, us correspondent
in Alaska for US Speature Story News. It's eight to
six on your Friday morning. Mike's in the studio with us.

Speaker 1 (31:25):
Next the news you need this morning and the in
depth analysis early edition with Ryan Bridge and One Roote
Love Where you Live news Talks.

Speaker 2 (31:35):
It'd be six the six on news Talks. It be
Mike's in the big yawn there, Mike just.

Speaker 14 (31:41):
Worn out by hiding up the studio yet again this morning, Ryan,
don't look at mounded by gormous morons who live in swill.
And so you know, tell the old Dyson out.

Speaker 2 (31:52):
Do I ever lave?

Speaker 14 (31:54):
You're you're you're, You're okay but not great. If you
want to, you.

Speaker 2 (31:58):
Can you tell me what exactly I'm doing wrong.

Speaker 14 (32:00):
You're a bit schamblick, to be honest, I mean, you're inconsistent.
So it's a good question you ask, and I'm glad
we've got some time to explore it.

Speaker 2 (32:07):
So what you I mean You're.

Speaker 14 (32:09):
Nowhere near as bad as say those clowns in the afternoon.
They're shocking. But what you do is some days you're
very good, and I think good is onto it.

Speaker 2 (32:18):
But what do you mean good? Other days?

Speaker 14 (32:19):
We was some days the rubbish. Men's just a bit
full of I mean, your preparation varies. I don't know
if your audience understands this, but some days your preparations lacking,
and I was much rubbish in It's been a light show.

Speaker 2 (32:32):
The preparations are always consistent.

Speaker 14 (32:34):
Well, certainly not in the terms of paper.

Speaker 2 (32:36):
Do you know what's happening?

Speaker 14 (32:37):
Pens sumps under the shelf?

Speaker 2 (32:41):
Do you know what The main complaint I thought you
would raise is that I've got long legs and my knees.
You do that?

Speaker 14 (32:48):
Yes, screen screens full of disaster on the screens. I'm
under there. Someone's gone under the glass screen there and
fingered the glass screen. Look at look at the prints
all over. It's shocking.

Speaker 2 (33:00):
And that'll be a tech person.

Speaker 14 (33:03):
No, no, no, it won't be a tech person fixing,
because no tech person fixing anything.

Speaker 2 (33:06):
Well, do you know what they've left? Fingerprints? You can
literally find out.

Speaker 14 (33:10):
I'm gonna have to because I'm under there with the
G twenty spraying upside down.

Speaker 2 (33:15):
There's small fingers, somebody with a small thumb around the office.

Speaker 14 (33:21):
I reckon, that's Matt, don't you Small fingered Matt.

Speaker 2 (33:25):
That's what we call it.

Speaker 14 (33:28):
Anyway, we got some Richie Barnett on the Warriors big
game tonight, by the way, because we can leap from
the Panthers because the Panthers lost last night. We're back
back in the top four, so that's exciting. Will Jordan,
also out of Argentina.

Speaker 2 (33:41):
Great. All right, he was good yesterday. Actually I saw
his in the press conference. All right, have a great
show with Mike. Have a great day everybody. I have
to find the The Incriminating Thumb.

Speaker 1 (33:55):
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