September 10, 2025 • 34 mins
On the Early Edition with Ryan Bridge Full Show Podcast Thursday 11th of September 2025, more New Zealand citizens are leaving the country than ever before, Massey University Sociologist Paul Spoonley tells Ryan about the impact it'll have on the country's growth.
Jet Star's announced it's biggest ever expansion here with over 600,000 extra seats, Airline Commentator Irene King tells Ryan about the impact it'll have on Air New Zealand.
More children are now obese than they are underweight, Jacqui Southey from Save the Children shares her thoughts.
Plus could there be life on Mars? US Correspondent Mitch McCann has the latest from a NASA press conference about a rock showing potential of ancient life.
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
The issues, the interviews and the insight. Ryan Bridge on
earlier show where One roof Love, Where You Live News
talks that'd be good morning, wasn't.
Speaker 2 (00:10):
The first day the key we mass exodus across the
Ditch still happening. Mitch McCann in the US, for US
on the Middle East, and elon who the world has
a new richest man? The jet Star expansion. Does that
mean we can shave fifty bucks off our flights? Plus
this morning, for the first time, more kids globally are
too fat than too thin. The agenda. It is Thursday,
(00:33):
the eleventh of September. Poland's Prime Minister says it's the
closest his country has been to an open conflict since
the end of World War II. This after they shot
down Russian drones in their own airspace.
Speaker 3 (00:43):
We're most likely dealing with a large scale provocation. But
we're in consultation with urlas I am in constant contact
with the needs of Secretary General so that we can
respond to this tape of threats as effectively as we
did tonight.
Speaker 2 (00:58):
Russia says it didn't do it on purpose. A day
after they went after Hamas and Kata, the Israelis now
hitting Hooti sites in Yemen. Doha now moving to hold
netn Yahoo responsible for breaking international law. STARM is about
to have a very awkward meeting with the Israeli president
at Downing Street.
Speaker 4 (01:14):
This visit was controversial even before Israel's air strikes. Yesterday,
You've had sixty MPs writing to Sakire Stamer asking what
legal advice the government received on whether Isaac Hutzel's visit
is compatible with the UK's obligations under the Genocide Convention
(01:35):
because of what is happening in Gaza.
Speaker 2 (01:38):
Yesterday, I told you about the US military veterans saying
that they've seen UFOs and I said, just Nutbuz, I said,
they're a bit kukubananas. Well, today NASA's held a press
conference saying that a rock sample from Mars has shown
the potential for life, albeit ancient life.
Speaker 5 (01:55):
There are at least four hundred known planets, and that
means there is a part usibility, some would even say
a probability of life beyond Earth. They've done the analysis
on these lapid spots and we you know, we think
they are potentially made by some sort of ancient life.
This finding, by our incredible perseverance. Rover is the closest
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we've actually come to discovering ancient life on Mars.
Speaker 1 (02:21):
On your radio and online on iHeartRadio Early edition with
Ryan Bridge and one roof Love where you Live News Talk.
Speaker 2 (02:30):
Sa'd be great to be with you this morning. A
flick me TeX's nine to nine two love hearing from you.
For anyone who's worked in or around corporates, you know
that the CFOs, the money men and women. They are
the real mvy piece. They're clinical, they're analytical, They often
quite unemotional. They basically cut the bullshit. Priority one is
grow the business, but when the crisis calls, it's protect
(02:51):
the business, keep it running. You trim, you slice your dice.
You take cash from here, you put it there, You
follow growth strendths. So when they talk, I tend to
listen to them, and they've just done a whole lot
of talking. And guess what, the news aren't great for
the country's biggest CFO, Nicola Willis. Here's what the CFOs
have said. Half of them in this survey don't reckon
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that over the past year their businesses have gone Half
of them do think their businesses have either gone backwards
or stagnated, and only around half are confident that the
current lot in power have a good understanding of what
needs to change. That's not great. Four out of five
think government policies need to change to boost growth, which
(03:31):
is Nichola's job. Remember she's Growth Minister too. But here's
the kicker. Only eighteen percent of them reckon that the
government will actually make those changes. They want tax changes,
they want compliance costs down, they want regulations gone. Add
to this the fact that next week's GDP read will
have us going backwards and things don't look amazing for
the Finance Minister this week. And as these are her people,
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she should be heading this out of the park, and
these are her people. Spring may have sprung, but winter's
chasing Nicola willis like a bad smell. It's not all bad,
I should say. Thirty eight percent are expecting to see
modest growth. That was compared to thirty one percent last year.
Pessimism is down, but economies aren't things you just tinker
with and then leave alone. When the world changes, we
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should too, and the world is changing fast, so Willis
and Co better keep up because when businesses do well,
New Zealand does well. On news talks. B it is
ten after five coming up next, we'll talk about this.
I mean you won't be surprised to hear this. The
world now has a bigger obesity problem for children than
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it has a malnutrition problem. Other words, there are now
more obese kids living on planet Earth than there are
starving kids. What's wrong with us?
Speaker 1 (04:50):
That's next, Views and Views you Trust to start your day.
It's early edition with Ryan Bridge and one roofe Love
where you live the use talks.
Speaker 2 (05:00):
He'd be five thirteen on your Thursday morning. So we're
still not back to pre COVID. But the visitor arrival
numbers from yesterday showed that lots of Ozzies love coming
here skiing July. This is overall we had an increase.
We had a number rather of two hundred and thirty
six thousand for the month. We're up six point six
percent year on year. The number of Australians coming here
is interesting. One hundred and twenty seven thousand of them
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in the month of July coming here basically go skiing.
That is a record for the month of July. So
maybe that you know the campaign that everyone poo pooed
that Luxeon did with Louise Upston. Everyone must go. Maybe
it's actually working, Bryan Bridge. More children are now obese
than they are underweight globally nine point two percent underweight,
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nine point four percent considered too big. Those numbers in
the year two thousand, just to give you some context,
thirteen percent underweight and just three percent obese. Jackie Saldy
saved the Children New Zealand US this morning, Jackie, good morning.
Speaker 6 (06:02):
Good morning Ryans.
Speaker 2 (06:03):
So what do you think when you hear that?
Speaker 7 (06:06):
Deeply concerning and this is something that we need to
take urgent action on. Globally, one and twenty children under
five years of agents under five are obese and this
rises to twenty percent of children aged five to nineteen
who are living with overweight and this is deeply concerning
and the direct results with the food environment that they
are growing up in.
Speaker 2 (06:25):
Where are the kids that are obese? Which countries rich ones?
Speaker 7 (06:30):
Well, they're rich and poor now. And we're seeing this
spread globally other than Sub Saharan Africa and South Asia.
And this is a real problem because as the food
environments change, cheap, highly ultra processed, aggressively market marketed foods
at children and adolescents is becoming more and more available.
And this is food that is really high in sugar, fats, salts, colors,
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and multi size and flavors. It is not healthy food.
It is not the fruits, vegetables and meat or high
protein options that we need to be living on.
Speaker 2 (07:00):
How do you what proportion you said that it's poor
and rich and poor countries? Is do rich countries generally
have a bigger problem with obesity than poorer ones?
Speaker 7 (07:10):
Well that was the pattern earlier, but this report shows
that those patterns are now changing and it is both rich. Well,
it's middle income has really up in their obesity STAPs,
but so have the poorer countries where we would not
have expected to see this, And this is because of
the importing of cheap, highly processed food that is now
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it's easier to buy and cheaper to buyer than are
healthy unprocessed food.
Speaker 2 (07:34):
How do you stop that then, If it's if you
know you could do regulations in wealthier countries, how on
earth do you stop that in poorer or middle income countries.
Speaker 7 (07:43):
Well, again, it's about the regulations about the food that's
being imported. In marketing, it's about those food production systems
making it affordable for farmers to be producing the food
in the first place, and then that you know, farm
gate to place concept where it's not going through so
many layers of process and profits and cost. It's cost
on cost, and so we need to make healthy food
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accessible and more available, and it takes government systems to
do that. Then if we are allowing the importing of
really so really cheap food that's highly processed, it's shiny,
it looks good that actually when you look at the
back of the packet, it's full of sugar, salts and sax,
but it might have fruits on the cover. It's just
simply misleading. We need better education for parents and children
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so they know what they're choosing and labeling the big
part of that. I mean, you've got to look at
a fine print on the back to see how much
sugars and something, whereas we should have how many tea
spoons of sugar are upfront easy to see, Well, this
is thirteen tea spoons of sugar in it, and a
daily intake for a child should only before.
Speaker 2 (08:43):
Jackie, appreciate your time. Jackie Saldy from Save the Children
in New Zealand Times seventeen after five Bryan Breade. You know,
I don't like taxes, and you know it's not one
of the things that I would ever advocate for. But
if you were going to put a tax on anything,
wouldn't you put a tax on really high sugar stuff?
Because you look at what having with cigarettes. You put
the only way you got through to smokers, and the
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really stubborn smokers are still smoking anyway, But to those
who were sort of in the middle, the only way
you got through to them was by hiking the price
to forty to fifty bucks for a pack of duris.
So what if you had to pay ten bucks for
a canna coke? You wouldn't buy it, would you. Most
people wouldn't buy it. The kids certainly wouldn't be buying it.
You see. I see it down the road from my house,
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kids going to school or coming home from school, and
they've got enormous one point five liters of fizzy drink
in their hands. I mean, the mind boggles seventeen after five.
Hopefully we'll get fifty bucks off our flight soon if
jet Star expands in the way that they hope to
Irene king on that next the.
Speaker 1 (09:47):
News you need this morning and the in depth analysis
early edition with Ryan Bridge and one Root Love where
you live, News talks.
Speaker 2 (09:56):
That'd be the world has a new richest man at
twenty after five. We'll get to that a little after
five point thirty and before six we're talking population. Where
are key? We's heading bad news that's over the ditch.
Maybe they can get a jet Star flight. Jetstar is
lighting a fire under air New Zealand. Biggest ever expansion
heres six hundred thousand extra seats. New routes like Hamilton
to christ Church great for the regions, Seasonal roots like
(10:18):
Queenstown de Brizzy great for tourists, Auckland christ Church. You're
getting an extra three hundred thousand seats a year from
eight flights a day up to eleven. Irene Kings the
aviation commentated with us this morning iron good morning.
Speaker 8 (10:30):
Good morning there.
Speaker 2 (10:32):
They've seen an opening here with these in New Zealand
Jine issues you reckon?
Speaker 8 (10:36):
Oh absolutely, Look, I think this is a great endorsement
of a recovery in the New Zealand economy from an
international operator that actually understands a lot about the New
Zealand market.
Speaker 2 (10:49):
Is it also because they've been I mean I saw
the quantus results. They've got a bit of cash because
they've been doing pretty well in Asia and other places.
Speaker 8 (10:57):
Yes, absolutely, you know, quantus balance sheet has been significantly strengthening,
you know over the last two three years, as opposed
to in New Zealand, who we've seen a significant weakening.
We've also got capacity coming out of Asia as jet
Stagias shut down, and we've got additional aircraft coming into
(11:21):
Quantus as well. So all of those things are combining
and you know they're really starting to up their game
now in New Zealand.
Speaker 2 (11:29):
Does that mean in New Zealand will have to lower
their prices if we have six hundred and sixty thousand
new low con seats.
Speaker 8 (11:36):
Oh, look, you know this is a significant change. And yes,
I've felt for quite some time that a New Zealand
has to really come to grips with its domestic pricing
strategies now that they are subject to significant complaint and
their sustainability when you look at, you know, the options
you've got of traveling across to Australia now really really
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come into question.
Speaker 2 (12:02):
How much do you think we could be shaving off
our the average seat price?
Speaker 8 (12:07):
Well, look, we you look at what jetster typically charged
in the New Zealand market, which is just under one
hundred dollars per seat. Albeit you know jet Set they're
here any zone typically when you look at their charges
around about two point fifty, so you know there's a
(12:30):
significant price disparity between the two. Now, I understand that
the operators you know, are quite significantly different in the
services that they provide and things like that. But New
Zealand is a price driven sensitive market. And even you're seeing,
you know, corporate and business travelers shift onto jetst with
(12:53):
this extra capacity that jets is putting in the market,
that shift is going to accelerate because every business is
now price sensitive.
Speaker 2 (13:03):
I Ren appreciate you announced this morning. Thanks you, I
Ren King. The aviation commentator time is twenty three minutes
after five. Ryan. This is where we have our priorities
around the wrong way. This is in relation to obesity
versus malnutrition. A text coming this morning, Ryan. This is
where we have our priorities around the wrong way. Would
you prefer to pay a dollar fifty for one point
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five liters of soft drink soft drink or five dollars
for a two liter of milk? We need to increase
the sugary drink prices. Yeah, do you then offset you know,
whatever tax you collect from increasing the price of sugary stuff,
do you put on discounting the price of whole food?
Twenty three after five, we'll look at the situation in
(13:44):
the Middle East, and Lord help us the situation in Europe.
Speaker 1 (13:48):
Next the early edition full show podcast on iHeartRadio, how
It By News.
Speaker 2 (13:53):
Talks AV News Talks there b twenty six minutes after five.
Diplomacy has gone to the dogs. Remember it was only
a month ago Trump was parading around in Alaskan Air
Force base talking up peace for Ukraine. And then within
weeks Putin sends eight hundred drones in a single night
across the boarder, biggest attack of the war so far,
and he's now entered NATO airspace. The fighter jets are scrambled,
(14:16):
the alarm bells ringing in Brussels. Does any of this
sound like progress to you? Does any of this sound
like diplomacy is doing a damned thing to stop regular
folk being slaughtered in the crossfire? No, of course not. Meanwhile, NETNYA,
who's firing missiles into Doha again? And who is he
aiming for? The Hummas lead negotiator, the same guy who
(14:38):
as recently his last week was being given cease fire
details from the Americans via the Egyptians and the qataris
if you really want peace, you don't fire missiles at
the guy you're negotiating with. Now, if you're Hamas, what
are you going to do now that the place you
thought was safe to have talks no longer feel so safe.
Some in Hamas believe the whole thing was a setup.
(15:00):
According to the BBC, the American ceasefire proposal was all
a trick to get them in one place at one
time and then bang bomb them, blow them up. And
you can't blame them for thinking that, can you. It
doesn't matter where you look, which continent, which war, diplomacy
doesn't seem to be working. The Americans look weak, Trump
looks weak. Netan Yahoo's taking him for a ride and
(15:23):
putin well, he couldn't care less. And the one guy
in the world sitting back watching, smiling, biding his time
and growing a military empire is one sh jingping of
China and bread rich. You're on news talk, said big Now,
fresh from her real estate conference mc gig in Brisbane.
(15:44):
Yes it happened Karmala Harris is now good her memoir
and we've got some details for you this morning, hot
off the thress, and she's kind of throwing Biden under
the bus a little bit. So this is about his
decision to seek reelection at twenty twenty four. She's called
it reckless. You can understand why they.
Speaker 9 (16:00):
Were able to make every single solitary person. Are you quite.
Speaker 10 (16:04):
Eligible for what I've been able to do with the uh,
the COVID excuse me, with dealing with everything we had in.
Speaker 4 (16:15):
Look if we finally beat Medicare.
Speaker 2 (16:20):
Thank you, President Biden, President Trump. Yeah, it was bad.
You remember that, right? Okay, So she's writ in the book,
was it grace or was it recklessness for him to
decide to run again? In retrospect, I think it was recklessness.
The stakes were too high. This wasn't a choice that
should have been left to an individual's ego. Okay, but
then she went on to do this.
Speaker 11 (16:41):
You know what also excites me? What I'm among the
many things I'm excited about. Electric school buses. I love
electric school buses. I just love them for so many reasons,
Maybe because I went to school on a school bus.
Where's yourn if you went to school on a school bus, right.
Speaker 2 (17:05):
Yeah, it was weird. The whole thing was weird. And
now we have Donald Trump. So she also writes in
the memoir that she felt sidelined while she was within
the White House. Her chief of staff, she writes, had
to fight to prevent her from standing in the background
of photos like a potted plant. That's sort of the role,
isn't it. Vice President. You're just there to make the
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other one, the main guy, look good. That's the job.
Twenty nine minutes after five News Talks, there'd be Mitch
mccannon live Stateside afternoons for you person over again.
Speaker 1 (17:44):
The first word on the News of the Day early
edition with Ryan Bridge and one roof love where you
live news talks'd be.
Speaker 2 (17:56):
Good morning. It is tweet four away from the six
News Talks, there be this morning the mass exodus across
the Tasman continues, Mitch mcan is live from the States
for US. Is Ntanya who just taking the mickey? Now
with the White House, we'll look at that. Luke has
text this morning. Luke, do you know what I always
appreciate about appreciate about hearing from you, Luke, is that
you put your name at the end of a text,
(18:17):
and it's always nice to know people's names. That's just
a hint hint for everyone else. He says that this
is about Carmela and Biden, with Karmala's new memoir. We
were talking about that before the news, and yet the
media here had nothing negative to say about Biden and
Harris when they were running. Trump gets back in and
the whaling begins again. He does finish the text. He
(18:37):
is a bit crap too, though. Yeah, I know, it's
sort of the lesser of two evils, and I'm not
sure which of those which way round that goes at
the moment, given the state of the world. We'll talk
to Mitch McCann about that shortly. Now, you won't be
caring about any of this if you are the world's
new richest man and we have to crown one this morning.
It's like Elon who This is all off the back
(18:59):
of Oracles staging a miracle on Wall Street overnight. His
name is Larry Allison. If you haven't heard of him.
He owns forty percent of Oracle. He is now worth
a whopping three hundred and ninety three billion US dollars.
That is six hundred and forty five billion New Zealand dollars.
Elon Musk is worth ten billion bucks less. Now New
(19:20):
Zealand's GDP is four hundred and thirty six billion dollars
New Zealand. So he's worth more than the value of
all the finished goods and services this entire country can
make in a year. How do you get that rich? Basically,
AI it's a software company and Oracle shares jumped forty
percent off the back of news that there were good results.
They won a bunch of new contracts. It's all cloud infrastructure,
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so stuff that I will never understand, but has made
Larry Ellison a very, very very rich man. This morning,
Ryan Bridge shadow our reporters around the country, Jamie Cunningham
for to Need and Jamie good morning.
Speaker 12 (19:56):
Good morning Ryan.
Speaker 2 (19:56):
Support for a new private hospital despite opening before the
public one.
Speaker 12 (20:01):
Yeah, that's right. The private facility specializing in general and
elective surgery is set to open by mid twenty twenty
eight and treat more than ten thousand patients a year.
Speaker 7 (20:11):
Now.
Speaker 12 (20:11):
The one point eight billion dollar government funded hospital is
opening in twenty thirty one. Jules Raddick says because the
existing hospital is oversubscribed, the private one is needed and
the two will work interactively. He says they wouldn't be
opening a hospital if they didn't see a gap in
the market, and the more healthcare Dunedin has, the better.
Speaker 2 (20:31):
All right, how's your weather.
Speaker 12 (20:33):
It's partly cloudy with the chance of a morning shower,
strong westerlies and a high of fourteen.
Speaker 2 (20:38):
Nice Jamie, thank you, clears and christ Church clear? Good morning,
Good morning. So the government announcing an upgrade to christ
Church Women's Hospital. Yes, that's right.
Speaker 13 (20:46):
This is a fourteen million dollar upgrade and expansion to
the women's hospital neonatal intensive care unit. This will add
ten more neonatal comps, will also improve infection prevention measures
and ensure the facility he's meeting the latest fire and
safety standards. Health Minister sam In Brown says the unit
has been under increasing pressure with demand exceeding capacity. He
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says this money will help families across Canterbury and ensure
more newborns are getting the right care. Work is expected
to start next year and be completed early twenty twenty seven.
Speaker 2 (21:19):
All right, how should weather very.
Speaker 13 (21:21):
Frosty this morning? But should clear to find westerly's turning
northerly twelve degrees.
Speaker 2 (21:26):
Here's clear Max and Wellington Hamax, Good morning. What happened
with the standoff that we saw the bangs on the
news last night? The aos were there? What happened?
Speaker 9 (21:33):
Yeah, so about one o'clock in the afternoon yesterday, this
is suay of armed police officers descended on Webb Street
in the central city, surrounding a motel. It seemed for
some hours they were there. There was a cordon around
Webb at also Victoria Streets. They went in pretty promptly
to presumably try to negotiate with this suspect, but it
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wasn't until the evening six point fifteen pm they could
arrest him bring him out. That thirty seven year old
is still in today and will appear in the district
court today charged with unlawfully carrying an imitation firearm. The
fact it was an imitation obviously was not known at
the time to locals residents in the building in and
around this Harbour City motor Rin, which is also used
(22:15):
for emergency housing. But at one point you could hear
that series of bangs that could very easily have been gunfire.
In fact, we thought it might have been for a time. Thankfully,
though police the sounds were just police deploying distraction devices,
which apparently are often used to try to engage with suspects.
Police were still there last night, but the cordons have lifted.
Speaker 2 (22:37):
All right, how's you wear the next?
Speaker 9 (22:38):
That should be mostly fine today with some stronger when
this morning?
Speaker 2 (22:42):
Fourteen? The high in the city. All right, Oh, he
didn't say central changed. You had to be here yesterday. Next,
Thank you Neva's and Augland hay Neva, good morning. Now
you're talking to us about Taranaki and Woeman not going ahead?
That's right.
Speaker 14 (22:59):
Blimey with a feather Now this came out yesterday. The
Three Day Music Festival been a new Plymouth institution since
two thousand and three, but announced it's taking a break
in twenty twenty six. Jay Ish Baylor bella rather and
that's the hospitality in zed Tartanaki branch president. He says, Look,
this is devastating obviously because woemd andcarriages and visitors arom
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outside the region to come in and spend money boosting
the economy there. I have never been to womed have you.
Speaker 2 (23:27):
No? No, Well, my auntie goes, she enjoys it.
Speaker 14 (23:30):
Yes, well, I've only heard good things because loads of
people probably thinking why is she doing that for the
Auckland stores.
Speaker 2 (23:35):
I do know I'm going to say that, do you
have any idea where you are?
Speaker 5 (23:40):
Well?
Speaker 14 (23:40):
I was, you know, my tenuous link was lots of
Aucklanders go to woman except for Neva Reddy Manu, but
I was planning on going next year.
Speaker 2 (23:49):
Emphasis on tenuous. How's the weather?
Speaker 6 (23:53):
Well?
Speaker 2 (23:53):
Where at which weather are you doing today? Will it
be Auckland stopt.
Speaker 14 (23:57):
Oh my goodness, gracious, well, it's a mids mix a
bag here in Auckland. I'll do touch to make you
tomorrow showers fine this morning, cloud in the afternoon, rain
tonight sixteen the high in Auckland, but not Auckland, Central
Auton Region.
Speaker 2 (24:11):
Aukland Region, Organ City, Neva. Thank you, good to see you.
Eighteen minutes away from six year. On News Talk c B,
we got the new numbers on migration out yesterday. We'll
look at those of Paul Spooney before six this morning. Next.
Mitch McCann is.
Speaker 1 (24:23):
Stateside International Correspondence with ends in Eye Insurance Peace of
Mind for New Zealand.
Speaker 2 (24:29):
Business News Talk's that B. It is called it to six.
Now the US has gone after the Hootie. Sorry, the
Israel has gone after the Hooties and Yemen. This comes
after they went after Hamas and Kata. Mitch McCann is
in the US for US this morning. Mitch, Good morning,
Good morning, Ryan. How are you good. What is the
White House making of all of this?
Speaker 15 (24:47):
Yeah, Donald Trump seems to be quite unhappy about what's
been going on here. Yesterday he said, I'm not thrilled
about the whole situation. It's not a good situation, he said.
But I will say this. We want the hostages back,
but we are not thrilled about the way that went down.
The US administration has also said in a statement that
the strikes in Doha yesterday do not advance US goals.
(25:08):
And this is one of the rare times that Donald
Trump has really broken with Israel's Prime Minister Benjaminetna, who
despite what we've seen in recent months, particularly around the
horrible situation in Gaza. What's interesting here is that Donald
Trump will be aware that there has been growing frustration
among the American public around what Israel's doing. There's been
a recent study from Q Research that found fifty three
(25:32):
percent of Americans now have an unfavorable view of Israel,
which is up eleven percent since twenty twenty two.
Speaker 2 (25:38):
Yeah, tides turning it bit eight now been what's NACES
saying about Mars?
Speaker 15 (25:43):
Yes, So NASA has a rover on Mars Ryan called Perseverance.
It's been up there since twenty twenty one and it
carries a drill to penetrate rocks and then test samples.
Now it sees it in the last two hours, or
it has revealed in the last two hours the rover
uncovered rocks in a dry river channel that may hold
potential signs of ancient microscopic life. On the rocks it found,
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there are these little specks called poppy seeds, and these
patterns are exactly the same kind found when micro organisms
feed on organic matter here on Earth. So scientists think
the same thing may have happened on Mars in the past,
but they can't confirm it until those samples get back
down and they can test them properly.
Speaker 2 (26:25):
Interesting, what's really going on up there? Much? Thank you?
It is stitching away from sex Bryan Bridge. More Kiwi
citizens leaving the country than ever before our net migration
thirteen thousand in the years of July twenty twenty five.
Downs sharply from sixty three thousand the year before the
drop comes as migrant arrivals fall twenty percent, departures obviously soaring.
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Paul Spoinley is Massi University sociologist of US This morning, Paul,
Good morning.
Speaker 6 (26:51):
Good morning, Ryan.
Speaker 2 (26:52):
Surely it can't get much worse than this. Are we
at rock bottom?
Speaker 6 (26:56):
I hope? So they are still trending down, but it
looks as though the overall net loss is panning out
at around thirteen thousand, so I'm hoping we have panned out,
bottomed out.
Speaker 2 (27:11):
Where are they going?
Speaker 6 (27:15):
Half of them are going to Australia, the rest are
going to other parts of the world. What's concerning is
the very sudden drop. You've mentioned the drop from last year,
but if we went back two years, the net loss
has gone from one hundred and thirty five thousand to
thirteen thousand, so a ninety percent drop. And what we
(27:37):
are seeing more people who are leaving and who, let
me rephrase this, there are older people leaving, so we're
seeing We've always seen twenty somethings, but we've seen thirty
somethings leaving, which suggests that they've been qualified and part
of our workforce and then are leaving to go to
another country.
Speaker 2 (27:57):
So that is a concern and being replaced by twenty
somethings coming in by.
Speaker 6 (28:03):
Twenty something's coming in, yes. And the other thing, there's
some news coming out of Australia that the New Zealand
New Zealand citizens who are arriving there half of them
were not born in New Zealand. Now in the past,
I know it's a common myth that people thought they
came to New Zealand, got residency and then moved to Australia.
In fact that wasn't the pastern most of the people
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who were going to Australia when New Zealand's citizens who'd
been born here. But we're seeing we're seeing more and
more people who have migrated to New Zealand now on
migrating to Australia.
Speaker 2 (28:37):
So we're becoming a gateway.
Speaker 6 (28:40):
We are becoming a gateway, yes we are. And of
course Ryan just to the Australians have been actively recruiting
in New Zealand for the last couple of years. They're
offering very attractive replace packages to go to Australia. They're
offering much better salaries, better pension conditions. And so we've
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got a factor in the fact that New Zealand's a
recruiting ground now for Australia. We train Australian nurses or
police officers.
Speaker 2 (29:13):
What does it say about a country when you've got
twenty somethings coming in with not much experience, thirty somethings
with experience leaving and an aging population.
Speaker 6 (29:23):
Yes, it's a bit of a recipe've for a disaster. Really,
we've got to we've really got to relook at our
population policy overall, Ryan, because I think there's the other
thing that hadn't mentioned is our declining fertility. So we've
got a bit of a population bomb going on. We've
got major population changes occurring and immigration is part of that.
(29:44):
So we've really got to think who do we want
to come to New Zealand, what age, what skills? Do
they bring? Money to invest? And you've heard about the
Golden Visa recently, but at the moment that the migration
story is not a particular lily positive one.
Speaker 2 (30:01):
Paul, always appreciate your analysis, even if it's pretty grimmin
and disturbing. This morning, profess Professor Paul Spoonley Massi University
sociologist knows this stuff. Nine away from six News Talks headb.
Speaker 1 (30:15):
Get ahead of the headlines on early edition with Ryan
Bridge and one roof Love Where You Live.
Speaker 2 (30:22):
News Talks B seven to six News Talks said b
there was a big fuss made about this documentary and
the Matercoppa family and Tom Phillips in the last twenty
four hours and Dame Julie Christie's behind the documentary and
hasn't spoken. So I texted yesterday see what's going on.
I can read you this response from Dame Julie Christie.
We have never asked to shoot anything with the children.
(30:44):
We have been with the same small group of detectives
only for the past seven months. We have not seen
the children at all. We are bide by strict police
rules at all times. News Talks head b Ryan from
the studio, Mike, good morning, Hey. Loads of people text
thing and about their kids. My son's moving to Australia
next Friday. He's getting a thirty percent pay rise. He's
(31:05):
a mechanic. But Ryan, both my boys late twenties, both
with degrees, gone to the UK, says Kate beck Gram
It's a right of passage.
Speaker 10 (31:13):
I've got five children and forty percent of them currently
are overseas.
Speaker 2 (31:18):
Yep, and well they come back.
Speaker 10 (31:20):
Yeah, it's a good question. We think about that quite often.
My guess would be, no, if one came back, I
wouldn't be shocked. If one came back, I would be
And so there's probably another one potentially going to go overseas.
She's just a bit young at the moment. So potentially
have sixty percent of be kids overseas, and we saw
that coming years ago. That's it's a right passage thing
as opposed to what you're talking about, which I think
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is slightly different, which is a I hate New Zealand.
There is no future for me, so I'm bailing. So
so the ones that we've got overseas, we're going anyway,
like so many young people go. But what they've discovered
is the world is a much more interesting place than
it is in New Zealand. Yeah, and unless they necessarily
get married and want to have kids and bring you in,
that's where where the return comes in.
Speaker 2 (32:01):
Yes, not, well, normally it does. But then a number
of my friends. I've got a girlfriend of mine who's
in London who has had a baby over there, and
it's like and she's not coming home ever.
Speaker 10 (32:11):
Having said that, I was talking to an Avy yesterday.
He spends half his year in London, and he loves London,
and he speaks what's happened to Britain, particularly in the
last year is a disaster. We think we've got problems
here for all of this, Let's go find somewhere else.
I mean Australia if you're following Australia, and one of
our daughters was in Australian till recently, until she moved
(32:31):
to London. Australia's falling apart of the seams, and you know,
if you want to find problems in Australia, there's huge
problems in Australia in terms of the economy. I mean
three a half thousand people laid off the ams in
the other day.
Speaker 2 (32:41):
And if I was in as you know, sunning my
buns on the Gold Coast recently, yes, and they have
camps there of homeless people, much of whom are New
Zealanders who cannot afford a one way flight back to
this country. People.
Speaker 10 (32:55):
I think I've thought about this a lot, in the
sense that there's a vibe in this country. We're over
the country for a variety of reasons. But I don't
know that many people who leave and go to places
like Australia think it through because the circumstance, you know,
for all of your and my son's got thirty perces.
But yeah, sure, but your average house price in Sydney's
one point seven billion dollars. You know, you're not. No
(33:16):
pay rise in the world covers that gap, and so
so I think it's more about a little bit of
sunshine for X beer.
Speaker 2 (33:24):
And well, it depends where you go, right, understand. And
if you get the job offer before you go, and
you can look at the housing and you can do
all the numbers and make it work, then yes. But
if you turn up there and just hope for the best.
Speaker 10 (33:35):
If you're on a pathway and you've got a career
mapped out as a young person, then sure, the opportunities
and always have been enormous. But if you're just I'm
sick of New Zealand, I'm going to lob into Sydney
or Brisbane and see what happens. I don't know that
that's necessarily your answer.
Speaker 2 (33:50):
What's on the big show?
Speaker 10 (33:51):
Oh, we've got the Justice Minister. This business of shoplifting
and the reverse the owners of proof is an interesting
one also, and given the dot Com decision yesterday, we'll
ask him about that as well.
Speaker 2 (34:01):
All Right, brilliant look forward to it. Mike is with
your next here on News Talk SeeDB. Have a great day,
see tomorrow.
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The issues, the interviews and the insight. Ryan Bridge on
earlier show where One roof Love, Where You Live News
talks that'd be good morning, wasn't.
Speaker 2 (00:10):
The first day the key we mass exodus across the
Ditch still happening. Mitch McCann in the US, for US
on the Middle East, and elon who the world has
a new richest man? The jet Star expansion. Does that
mean we can shave fifty bucks off our flights? Plus
this morning, for the first time, more kids globally are
too fat than too thin. The agenda. It is Thursday,
(00:33):
the eleventh of September. Poland's Prime Minister says it's the
closest his country has been to an open conflict since
the end of World War II. This after they shot
down Russian drones in their own airspace.
Speaker 3 (00:43):
We're most likely dealing with a large scale provocation. But
we're in consultation with urlas I am in constant contact
with the needs of Secretary General so that we can
respond to this tape of threats as effectively as we
did tonight.
Speaker 2 (00:58):
Russia says it didn't do it on purpose. A day
after they went after Hamas and Kata, the Israelis now
hitting Hooti sites in Yemen. Doha now moving to hold
netn Yahoo responsible for breaking international law. STARM is about
to have a very awkward meeting with the Israeli president
at Downing Street.
Speaker 4 (01:14):
This visit was controversial even before Israel's air strikes. Yesterday,
You've had sixty MPs writing to Sakire Stamer asking what
legal advice the government received on whether Isaac Hutzel's visit
is compatible with the UK's obligations under the Genocide Convention
(01:35):
because of what is happening in Gaza.
Speaker 2 (01:38):
Yesterday, I told you about the US military veterans saying
that they've seen UFOs and I said, just Nutbuz, I said,
they're a bit kukubananas. Well, today NASA's held a press
conference saying that a rock sample from Mars has shown
the potential for life, albeit ancient life.
Speaker 5 (01:55):
There are at least four hundred known planets, and that
means there is a part usibility, some would even say
a probability of life beyond Earth. They've done the analysis
on these lapid spots and we you know, we think
they are potentially made by some sort of ancient life.
This finding, by our incredible perseverance. Rover is the closest
(02:16):
we've actually come to discovering ancient life on Mars.
Speaker 1 (02:21):
On your radio and online on iHeartRadio Early edition with
Ryan Bridge and one roof Love where you Live News Talk.
Speaker 2 (02:30):
Sa'd be great to be with you this morning. A
flick me TeX's nine to nine two love hearing from you.
For anyone who's worked in or around corporates, you know
that the CFOs, the money men and women. They are
the real mvy piece. They're clinical, they're analytical, They often
quite unemotional. They basically cut the bullshit. Priority one is
grow the business, but when the crisis calls, it's protect
(02:51):
the business, keep it running. You trim, you slice your dice.
You take cash from here, you put it there, You
follow growth strendths. So when they talk, I tend to
listen to them, and they've just done a whole lot
of talking. And guess what, the news aren't great for
the country's biggest CFO, Nicola Willis. Here's what the CFOs
have said. Half of them in this survey don't reckon
(03:11):
that over the past year their businesses have gone Half
of them do think their businesses have either gone backwards
or stagnated, and only around half are confident that the
current lot in power have a good understanding of what
needs to change. That's not great. Four out of five
think government policies need to change to boost growth, which
(03:31):
is Nichola's job. Remember she's Growth Minister too. But here's
the kicker. Only eighteen percent of them reckon that the
government will actually make those changes. They want tax changes,
they want compliance costs down, they want regulations gone. Add
to this the fact that next week's GDP read will
have us going backwards and things don't look amazing for
the Finance Minister this week. And as these are her people,
(03:56):
she should be heading this out of the park, and
these are her people. Spring may have sprung, but winter's
chasing Nicola willis like a bad smell. It's not all bad,
I should say. Thirty eight percent are expecting to see
modest growth. That was compared to thirty one percent last year.
Pessimism is down, but economies aren't things you just tinker
with and then leave alone. When the world changes, we
(04:18):
should too, and the world is changing fast, so Willis
and Co better keep up because when businesses do well,
New Zealand does well. On news talks. B it is
ten after five coming up next, we'll talk about this.
I mean you won't be surprised to hear this. The
world now has a bigger obesity problem for children than
(04:38):
it has a malnutrition problem. Other words, there are now
more obese kids living on planet Earth than there are
starving kids. What's wrong with us?
Speaker 1 (04:50):
That's next, Views and Views you Trust to start your day.
It's early edition with Ryan Bridge and one roofe Love
where you live the use talks.
Speaker 2 (05:00):
He'd be five thirteen on your Thursday morning. So we're
still not back to pre COVID. But the visitor arrival
numbers from yesterday showed that lots of Ozzies love coming
here skiing July. This is overall we had an increase.
We had a number rather of two hundred and thirty
six thousand for the month. We're up six point six
percent year on year. The number of Australians coming here
is interesting. One hundred and twenty seven thousand of them
(05:24):
in the month of July coming here basically go skiing.
That is a record for the month of July. So
maybe that you know the campaign that everyone poo pooed
that Luxeon did with Louise Upston. Everyone must go. Maybe
it's actually working, Bryan Bridge. More children are now obese
than they are underweight globally nine point two percent underweight,
(05:47):
nine point four percent considered too big. Those numbers in
the year two thousand, just to give you some context,
thirteen percent underweight and just three percent obese. Jackie Saldy
saved the Children New Zealand US this morning, Jackie, good morning.
Speaker 6 (06:02):
Good morning Ryans.
Speaker 2 (06:03):
So what do you think when you hear that?
Speaker 7 (06:06):
Deeply concerning and this is something that we need to
take urgent action on. Globally, one and twenty children under
five years of agents under five are obese and this
rises to twenty percent of children aged five to nineteen
who are living with overweight and this is deeply concerning
and the direct results with the food environment that they
are growing up in.
Speaker 2 (06:25):
Where are the kids that are obese? Which countries rich ones?
Speaker 7 (06:30):
Well, they're rich and poor now. And we're seeing this
spread globally other than Sub Saharan Africa and South Asia.
And this is a real problem because as the food
environments change, cheap, highly ultra processed, aggressively market marketed foods
at children and adolescents is becoming more and more available.
And this is food that is really high in sugar, fats, salts, colors,
(06:52):
and multi size and flavors. It is not healthy food.
It is not the fruits, vegetables and meat or high
protein options that we need to be living on.
Speaker 2 (07:00):
How do you what proportion you said that it's poor
and rich and poor countries? Is do rich countries generally
have a bigger problem with obesity than poorer ones?
Speaker 7 (07:10):
Well that was the pattern earlier, but this report shows
that those patterns are now changing and it is both rich. Well,
it's middle income has really up in their obesity STAPs,
but so have the poorer countries where we would not
have expected to see this, And this is because of
the importing of cheap, highly processed food that is now
(07:30):
it's easier to buy and cheaper to buyer than are
healthy unprocessed food.
Speaker 2 (07:34):
How do you stop that then, If it's if you
know you could do regulations in wealthier countries, how on
earth do you stop that in poorer or middle income countries.
Speaker 7 (07:43):
Well, again, it's about the regulations about the food that's
being imported. In marketing, it's about those food production systems
making it affordable for farmers to be producing the food
in the first place, and then that you know, farm
gate to place concept where it's not going through so
many layers of process and profits and cost. It's cost
on cost, and so we need to make healthy food
(08:04):
accessible and more available, and it takes government systems to
do that. Then if we are allowing the importing of
really so really cheap food that's highly processed, it's shiny,
it looks good that actually when you look at the
back of the packet, it's full of sugar, salts and sax,
but it might have fruits on the cover. It's just
simply misleading. We need better education for parents and children
(08:28):
so they know what they're choosing and labeling the big
part of that. I mean, you've got to look at
a fine print on the back to see how much
sugars and something, whereas we should have how many tea
spoons of sugar are upfront easy to see, Well, this
is thirteen tea spoons of sugar in it, and a
daily intake for a child should only before.
Speaker 2 (08:43):
Jackie, appreciate your time. Jackie Saldy from Save the Children
in New Zealand Times seventeen after five Bryan Breade. You know,
I don't like taxes, and you know it's not one
of the things that I would ever advocate for. But
if you were going to put a tax on anything,
wouldn't you put a tax on really high sugar stuff?
Because you look at what having with cigarettes. You put
the only way you got through to smokers, and the
(09:04):
really stubborn smokers are still smoking anyway, But to those
who were sort of in the middle, the only way
you got through to them was by hiking the price
to forty to fifty bucks for a pack of duris.
So what if you had to pay ten bucks for
a canna coke? You wouldn't buy it, would you. Most
people wouldn't buy it. The kids certainly wouldn't be buying it.
You see. I see it down the road from my house,
(09:26):
kids going to school or coming home from school, and
they've got enormous one point five liters of fizzy drink
in their hands. I mean, the mind boggles seventeen after five.
Hopefully we'll get fifty bucks off our flight soon if
jet Star expands in the way that they hope to
Irene king on that next the.
Speaker 1 (09:47):
News you need this morning and the in depth analysis
early edition with Ryan Bridge and one Root Love where
you live, News talks.
Speaker 2 (09:56):
That'd be the world has a new richest man at
twenty after five. We'll get to that a little after
five point thirty and before six we're talking population. Where
are key? We's heading bad news that's over the ditch.
Maybe they can get a jet Star flight. Jetstar is
lighting a fire under air New Zealand. Biggest ever expansion
heres six hundred thousand extra seats. New routes like Hamilton
to christ Church great for the regions, Seasonal roots like
(10:18):
Queenstown de Brizzy great for tourists, Auckland christ Church. You're
getting an extra three hundred thousand seats a year from
eight flights a day up to eleven. Irene Kings the
aviation commentated with us this morning iron good morning.
Speaker 8 (10:30):
Good morning there.
Speaker 2 (10:32):
They've seen an opening here with these in New Zealand
Jine issues you reckon?
Speaker 8 (10:36):
Oh absolutely, Look, I think this is a great endorsement
of a recovery in the New Zealand economy from an
international operator that actually understands a lot about the New
Zealand market.
Speaker 2 (10:49):
Is it also because they've been I mean I saw
the quantus results. They've got a bit of cash because
they've been doing pretty well in Asia and other places.
Speaker 8 (10:57):
Yes, absolutely, you know, quantus balance sheet has been significantly strengthening,
you know over the last two three years, as opposed
to in New Zealand, who we've seen a significant weakening.
We've also got capacity coming out of Asia as jet
Stagias shut down, and we've got additional aircraft coming into
(11:21):
Quantus as well. So all of those things are combining
and you know they're really starting to up their game
now in New Zealand.
Speaker 2 (11:29):
Does that mean in New Zealand will have to lower
their prices if we have six hundred and sixty thousand
new low con seats.
Speaker 8 (11:36):
Oh, look, you know this is a significant change. And yes,
I've felt for quite some time that a New Zealand
has to really come to grips with its domestic pricing
strategies now that they are subject to significant complaint and
their sustainability when you look at, you know, the options
you've got of traveling across to Australia now really really
(11:59):
come into question.
Speaker 2 (12:02):
How much do you think we could be shaving off
our the average seat price?
Speaker 8 (12:07):
Well, look, we you look at what jetster typically charged
in the New Zealand market, which is just under one
hundred dollars per seat. Albeit you know jet Set they're
here any zone typically when you look at their charges
around about two point fifty, so you know there's a
(12:30):
significant price disparity between the two. Now, I understand that
the operators you know, are quite significantly different in the
services that they provide and things like that. But New
Zealand is a price driven sensitive market. And even you're seeing,
you know, corporate and business travelers shift onto jetst with
(12:53):
this extra capacity that jets is putting in the market,
that shift is going to accelerate because every business is
now price sensitive.
Speaker 2 (13:03):
I Ren appreciate you announced this morning. Thanks you, I
Ren King. The aviation commentator time is twenty three minutes
after five. Ryan. This is where we have our priorities
around the wrong way. This is in relation to obesity
versus malnutrition. A text coming this morning, Ryan. This is
where we have our priorities around the wrong way. Would
you prefer to pay a dollar fifty for one point
(13:23):
five liters of soft drink soft drink or five dollars
for a two liter of milk? We need to increase
the sugary drink prices. Yeah, do you then offset you know,
whatever tax you collect from increasing the price of sugary stuff,
do you put on discounting the price of whole food?
Twenty three after five, we'll look at the situation in
(13:44):
the Middle East, and Lord help us the situation in Europe.
Speaker 1 (13:48):
Next the early edition full show podcast on iHeartRadio, how
It By News.
Speaker 2 (13:53):
Talks AV News Talks there b twenty six minutes after five.
Diplomacy has gone to the dogs. Remember it was only
a month ago Trump was parading around in Alaskan Air
Force base talking up peace for Ukraine. And then within
weeks Putin sends eight hundred drones in a single night
across the boarder, biggest attack of the war so far,
and he's now entered NATO airspace. The fighter jets are scrambled,
(14:16):
the alarm bells ringing in Brussels. Does any of this
sound like progress to you? Does any of this sound
like diplomacy is doing a damned thing to stop regular
folk being slaughtered in the crossfire? No, of course not. Meanwhile, NETNYA,
who's firing missiles into Doha again? And who is he
aiming for? The Hummas lead negotiator, the same guy who
(14:38):
as recently his last week was being given cease fire
details from the Americans via the Egyptians and the qataris
if you really want peace, you don't fire missiles at
the guy you're negotiating with. Now, if you're Hamas, what
are you going to do now that the place you
thought was safe to have talks no longer feel so safe.
Some in Hamas believe the whole thing was a setup.
(15:00):
According to the BBC, the American ceasefire proposal was all
a trick to get them in one place at one
time and then bang bomb them, blow them up. And
you can't blame them for thinking that, can you. It
doesn't matter where you look, which continent, which war, diplomacy
doesn't seem to be working. The Americans look weak, Trump
looks weak. Netan Yahoo's taking him for a ride and
(15:23):
putin well, he couldn't care less. And the one guy
in the world sitting back watching, smiling, biding his time
and growing a military empire is one sh jingping of
China and bread rich. You're on news talk, said big Now,
fresh from her real estate conference mc gig in Brisbane.
(15:44):
Yes it happened Karmala Harris is now good her memoir
and we've got some details for you this morning, hot
off the thress, and she's kind of throwing Biden under
the bus a little bit. So this is about his
decision to seek reelection at twenty twenty four. She's called
it reckless. You can understand why they.
Speaker 9 (16:00):
Were able to make every single solitary person. Are you quite.
Speaker 10 (16:04):
Eligible for what I've been able to do with the uh,
the COVID excuse me, with dealing with everything we had in.
Speaker 4 (16:15):
Look if we finally beat Medicare.
Speaker 2 (16:20):
Thank you, President Biden, President Trump. Yeah, it was bad.
You remember that, right? Okay, So she's writ in the book,
was it grace or was it recklessness for him to
decide to run again? In retrospect, I think it was recklessness.
The stakes were too high. This wasn't a choice that
should have been left to an individual's ego. Okay, but
then she went on to do this.
Speaker 11 (16:41):
You know what also excites me? What I'm among the
many things I'm excited about. Electric school buses. I love
electric school buses. I just love them for so many reasons,
Maybe because I went to school on a school bus.
Where's yourn if you went to school on a school bus, right.
Speaker 2 (17:05):
Yeah, it was weird. The whole thing was weird. And
now we have Donald Trump. So she also writes in
the memoir that she felt sidelined while she was within
the White House. Her chief of staff, she writes, had
to fight to prevent her from standing in the background
of photos like a potted plant. That's sort of the role,
isn't it. Vice President. You're just there to make the
(17:26):
other one, the main guy, look good. That's the job.
Twenty nine minutes after five News Talks, there'd be Mitch
mccannon live Stateside afternoons for you person over again.
Speaker 1 (17:44):
The first word on the News of the Day early
edition with Ryan Bridge and one roof love where you
live news talks'd be.
Speaker 2 (17:56):
Good morning. It is tweet four away from the six
News Talks, there be this morning the mass exodus across
the Tasman continues, Mitch mcan is live from the States
for US. Is Ntanya who just taking the mickey? Now
with the White House, we'll look at that. Luke has
text this morning. Luke, do you know what I always
appreciate about appreciate about hearing from you, Luke, is that
you put your name at the end of a text,
(18:17):
and it's always nice to know people's names. That's just
a hint hint for everyone else. He says that this
is about Carmela and Biden, with Karmala's new memoir. We
were talking about that before the news, and yet the
media here had nothing negative to say about Biden and
Harris when they were running. Trump gets back in and
the whaling begins again. He does finish the text. He
(18:37):
is a bit crap too, though. Yeah, I know, it's
sort of the lesser of two evils, and I'm not
sure which of those which way round that goes at
the moment, given the state of the world. We'll talk
to Mitch McCann about that shortly. Now, you won't be
caring about any of this if you are the world's
new richest man and we have to crown one this morning.
It's like Elon who This is all off the back
(18:59):
of Oracles staging a miracle on Wall Street overnight. His
name is Larry Allison. If you haven't heard of him.
He owns forty percent of Oracle. He is now worth
a whopping three hundred and ninety three billion US dollars.
That is six hundred and forty five billion New Zealand dollars.
Elon Musk is worth ten billion bucks less. Now New
(19:20):
Zealand's GDP is four hundred and thirty six billion dollars
New Zealand. So he's worth more than the value of
all the finished goods and services this entire country can
make in a year. How do you get that rich? Basically,
AI it's a software company and Oracle shares jumped forty
percent off the back of news that there were good results.
They won a bunch of new contracts. It's all cloud infrastructure,
(19:43):
so stuff that I will never understand, but has made
Larry Ellison a very, very very rich man. This morning,
Ryan Bridge shadow our reporters around the country, Jamie Cunningham
for to Need and Jamie good morning.
Speaker 12 (19:56):
Good morning Ryan.
Speaker 2 (19:56):
Support for a new private hospital despite opening before the
public one.
Speaker 12 (20:01):
Yeah, that's right. The private facility specializing in general and
elective surgery is set to open by mid twenty twenty
eight and treat more than ten thousand patients a year.
Speaker 7 (20:11):
Now.
Speaker 12 (20:11):
The one point eight billion dollar government funded hospital is
opening in twenty thirty one. Jules Raddick says because the
existing hospital is oversubscribed, the private one is needed and
the two will work interactively. He says they wouldn't be
opening a hospital if they didn't see a gap in
the market, and the more healthcare Dunedin has, the better.
Speaker 2 (20:31):
All right, how's your weather.
Speaker 12 (20:33):
It's partly cloudy with the chance of a morning shower,
strong westerlies and a high of fourteen.
Speaker 2 (20:38):
Nice Jamie, thank you, clears and christ Church clear? Good morning,
Good morning. So the government announcing an upgrade to christ
Church Women's Hospital. Yes, that's right.
Speaker 13 (20:46):
This is a fourteen million dollar upgrade and expansion to
the women's hospital neonatal intensive care unit. This will add
ten more neonatal comps, will also improve infection prevention measures
and ensure the facility he's meeting the latest fire and
safety standards. Health Minister sam In Brown says the unit
has been under increasing pressure with demand exceeding capacity. He
(21:09):
says this money will help families across Canterbury and ensure
more newborns are getting the right care. Work is expected
to start next year and be completed early twenty twenty seven.
Speaker 2 (21:19):
All right, how should weather very.
Speaker 13 (21:21):
Frosty this morning? But should clear to find westerly's turning
northerly twelve degrees.
Speaker 2 (21:26):
Here's clear Max and Wellington Hamax, Good morning. What happened
with the standoff that we saw the bangs on the
news last night? The aos were there? What happened?
Speaker 9 (21:33):
Yeah, so about one o'clock in the afternoon yesterday, this
is suay of armed police officers descended on Webb Street
in the central city, surrounding a motel. It seemed for
some hours they were there. There was a cordon around
Webb at also Victoria Streets. They went in pretty promptly
to presumably try to negotiate with this suspect, but it
(21:53):
wasn't until the evening six point fifteen pm they could
arrest him bring him out. That thirty seven year old
is still in today and will appear in the district
court today charged with unlawfully carrying an imitation firearm. The
fact it was an imitation obviously was not known at
the time to locals residents in the building in and
around this Harbour City motor Rin, which is also used
(22:15):
for emergency housing. But at one point you could hear
that series of bangs that could very easily have been gunfire.
In fact, we thought it might have been for a time. Thankfully,
though police the sounds were just police deploying distraction devices,
which apparently are often used to try to engage with suspects.
Police were still there last night, but the cordons have lifted.
Speaker 2 (22:37):
All right, how's you wear the next?
Speaker 9 (22:38):
That should be mostly fine today with some stronger when
this morning?
Speaker 2 (22:42):
Fourteen? The high in the city. All right, Oh, he
didn't say central changed. You had to be here yesterday. Next,
Thank you Neva's and Augland hay Neva, good morning. Now
you're talking to us about Taranaki and Woeman not going ahead?
That's right.
Speaker 14 (22:59):
Blimey with a feather Now this came out yesterday. The
Three Day Music Festival been a new Plymouth institution since
two thousand and three, but announced it's taking a break
in twenty twenty six. Jay Ish Baylor bella rather and
that's the hospitality in zed Tartanaki branch president. He says, Look,
this is devastating obviously because woemd andcarriages and visitors arom
(23:21):
outside the region to come in and spend money boosting
the economy there. I have never been to womed have you.
Speaker 2 (23:27):
No? No, Well, my auntie goes, she enjoys it.
Speaker 14 (23:30):
Yes, well, I've only heard good things because loads of
people probably thinking why is she doing that for the
Auckland stores.
Speaker 2 (23:35):
I do know I'm going to say that, do you
have any idea where you are?
Speaker 5 (23:40):
Well?
Speaker 14 (23:40):
I was, you know, my tenuous link was lots of
Aucklanders go to woman except for Neva Reddy Manu, but
I was planning on going next year.
Speaker 2 (23:49):
Emphasis on tenuous. How's the weather?
Speaker 6 (23:53):
Well?
Speaker 2 (23:53):
Where at which weather are you doing today? Will it
be Auckland stopt.
Speaker 14 (23:57):
Oh my goodness, gracious, well, it's a mids mix a
bag here in Auckland. I'll do touch to make you
tomorrow showers fine this morning, cloud in the afternoon, rain
tonight sixteen the high in Auckland, but not Auckland, Central
Auton Region.
Speaker 2 (24:11):
Aukland Region, Organ City, Neva. Thank you, good to see you.
Eighteen minutes away from six year. On News Talk c B,
we got the new numbers on migration out yesterday. We'll
look at those of Paul Spooney before six this morning. Next.
Mitch McCann is.
Speaker 1 (24:23):
Stateside International Correspondence with ends in Eye Insurance Peace of
Mind for New Zealand.
Speaker 2 (24:29):
Business News Talk's that B. It is called it to six.
Now the US has gone after the Hootie. Sorry, the
Israel has gone after the Hooties and Yemen. This comes
after they went after Hamas and Kata. Mitch McCann is
in the US for US this morning. Mitch, Good morning,
Good morning, Ryan. How are you good. What is the
White House making of all of this?
Speaker 15 (24:47):
Yeah, Donald Trump seems to be quite unhappy about what's
been going on here. Yesterday he said, I'm not thrilled
about the whole situation. It's not a good situation, he said.
But I will say this. We want the hostages back,
but we are not thrilled about the way that went down.
The US administration has also said in a statement that
the strikes in Doha yesterday do not advance US goals.
(25:08):
And this is one of the rare times that Donald
Trump has really broken with Israel's Prime Minister Benjaminetna, who
despite what we've seen in recent months, particularly around the
horrible situation in Gaza. What's interesting here is that Donald
Trump will be aware that there has been growing frustration
among the American public around what Israel's doing. There's been
a recent study from Q Research that found fifty three
(25:32):
percent of Americans now have an unfavorable view of Israel,
which is up eleven percent since twenty twenty two.
Speaker 2 (25:38):
Yeah, tides turning it bit eight now been what's NACES
saying about Mars?
Speaker 15 (25:43):
Yes, So NASA has a rover on Mars Ryan called Perseverance.
It's been up there since twenty twenty one and it
carries a drill to penetrate rocks and then test samples.
Now it sees it in the last two hours, or
it has revealed in the last two hours the rover
uncovered rocks in a dry river channel that may hold
potential signs of ancient microscopic life. On the rocks it found,
(26:06):
there are these little specks called poppy seeds, and these
patterns are exactly the same kind found when micro organisms
feed on organic matter here on Earth. So scientists think
the same thing may have happened on Mars in the past,
but they can't confirm it until those samples get back
down and they can test them properly.
Speaker 2 (26:25):
Interesting, what's really going on up there? Much? Thank you?
It is stitching away from sex Bryan Bridge. More Kiwi
citizens leaving the country than ever before our net migration
thirteen thousand in the years of July twenty twenty five.
Downs sharply from sixty three thousand the year before the
drop comes as migrant arrivals fall twenty percent, departures obviously soaring.
(26:46):
Paul Spoinley is Massi University sociologist of US This morning, Paul,
Good morning.
Speaker 6 (26:51):
Good morning, Ryan.
Speaker 2 (26:52):
Surely it can't get much worse than this. Are we
at rock bottom?
Speaker 6 (26:56):
I hope? So they are still trending down, but it
looks as though the overall net loss is panning out
at around thirteen thousand, so I'm hoping we have panned out,
bottomed out.
Speaker 2 (27:11):
Where are they going?
Speaker 6 (27:15):
Half of them are going to Australia, the rest are
going to other parts of the world. What's concerning is
the very sudden drop. You've mentioned the drop from last year,
but if we went back two years, the net loss
has gone from one hundred and thirty five thousand to
thirteen thousand, so a ninety percent drop. And what we
(27:37):
are seeing more people who are leaving and who, let
me rephrase this, there are older people leaving, so we're
seeing We've always seen twenty somethings, but we've seen thirty
somethings leaving, which suggests that they've been qualified and part
of our workforce and then are leaving to go to
another country.
Speaker 2 (27:57):
So that is a concern and being replaced by twenty
somethings coming in by.
Speaker 6 (28:03):
Twenty something's coming in, yes. And the other thing, there's
some news coming out of Australia that the New Zealand
New Zealand citizens who are arriving there half of them
were not born in New Zealand. Now in the past,
I know it's a common myth that people thought they
came to New Zealand, got residency and then moved to Australia.
In fact that wasn't the pastern most of the people
(28:25):
who were going to Australia when New Zealand's citizens who'd
been born here. But we're seeing we're seeing more and
more people who have migrated to New Zealand now on
migrating to Australia.
Speaker 2 (28:37):
So we're becoming a gateway.
Speaker 6 (28:40):
We are becoming a gateway, yes we are. And of
course Ryan just to the Australians have been actively recruiting
in New Zealand for the last couple of years. They're
offering very attractive replace packages to go to Australia. They're
offering much better salaries, better pension conditions. And so we've
(29:03):
got a factor in the fact that New Zealand's a
recruiting ground now for Australia. We train Australian nurses or
police officers.
Speaker 2 (29:13):
What does it say about a country when you've got
twenty somethings coming in with not much experience, thirty somethings
with experience leaving and an aging population.
Speaker 6 (29:23):
Yes, it's a bit of a recipe've for a disaster. Really,
we've got to we've really got to relook at our
population policy overall, Ryan, because I think there's the other
thing that hadn't mentioned is our declining fertility. So we've
got a bit of a population bomb going on. We've
got major population changes occurring and immigration is part of that.
(29:44):
So we've really got to think who do we want
to come to New Zealand, what age, what skills? Do
they bring? Money to invest? And you've heard about the
Golden Visa recently, but at the moment that the migration
story is not a particular lily positive one.
Speaker 2 (30:01):
Paul, always appreciate your analysis, even if it's pretty grimmin
and disturbing. This morning, profess Professor Paul Spoonley Massi University
sociologist knows this stuff. Nine away from six News Talks headb.
Speaker 1 (30:15):
Get ahead of the headlines on early edition with Ryan
Bridge and one roof Love Where You Live.
Speaker 2 (30:22):
News Talks B seven to six News Talks said b
there was a big fuss made about this documentary and
the Matercoppa family and Tom Phillips in the last twenty
four hours and Dame Julie Christie's behind the documentary and
hasn't spoken. So I texted yesterday see what's going on.
I can read you this response from Dame Julie Christie.
We have never asked to shoot anything with the children.
(30:44):
We have been with the same small group of detectives
only for the past seven months. We have not seen
the children at all. We are bide by strict police
rules at all times. News Talks head b Ryan from
the studio, Mike, good morning, Hey. Loads of people text
thing and about their kids. My son's moving to Australia
next Friday. He's getting a thirty percent pay rise. He's
(31:05):
a mechanic. But Ryan, both my boys late twenties, both
with degrees, gone to the UK, says Kate beck Gram
It's a right of passage.
Speaker 10 (31:13):
I've got five children and forty percent of them currently
are overseas.
Speaker 2 (31:18):
Yep, and well they come back.
Speaker 10 (31:20):
Yeah, it's a good question. We think about that quite often.
My guess would be, no, if one came back, I
wouldn't be shocked. If one came back, I would be
And so there's probably another one potentially going to go overseas.
She's just a bit young at the moment. So potentially
have sixty percent of be kids overseas, and we saw
that coming years ago. That's it's a right passage thing
as opposed to what you're talking about, which I think
(31:41):
is slightly different, which is a I hate New Zealand.
There is no future for me, so I'm bailing. So
so the ones that we've got overseas, we're going anyway,
like so many young people go. But what they've discovered
is the world is a much more interesting place than
it is in New Zealand. Yeah, and unless they necessarily
get married and want to have kids and bring you in,
that's where where the return comes in.
Speaker 2 (32:01):
Yes, not, well, normally it does. But then a number
of my friends. I've got a girlfriend of mine who's
in London who has had a baby over there, and
it's like and she's not coming home ever.
Speaker 10 (32:11):
Having said that, I was talking to an Avy yesterday.
He spends half his year in London, and he loves London,
and he speaks what's happened to Britain, particularly in the
last year is a disaster. We think we've got problems
here for all of this, Let's go find somewhere else.
I mean Australia if you're following Australia, and one of
our daughters was in Australian till recently, until she moved
(32:31):
to London. Australia's falling apart of the seams, and you know,
if you want to find problems in Australia, there's huge
problems in Australia in terms of the economy. I mean
three a half thousand people laid off the ams in
the other day.
Speaker 2 (32:41):
And if I was in as you know, sunning my
buns on the Gold Coast recently, yes, and they have
camps there of homeless people, much of whom are New
Zealanders who cannot afford a one way flight back to
this country. People.
Speaker 10 (32:55):
I think I've thought about this a lot, in the
sense that there's a vibe in this country. We're over
the country for a variety of reasons. But I don't
know that many people who leave and go to places
like Australia think it through because the circumstance, you know,
for all of your and my son's got thirty perces.
But yeah, sure, but your average house price in Sydney's
one point seven billion dollars. You know, you're not. No
(33:16):
pay rise in the world covers that gap, and so
so I think it's more about a little bit of
sunshine for X beer.
Speaker 2 (33:24):
And well, it depends where you go, right, understand. And
if you get the job offer before you go, and
you can look at the housing and you can do
all the numbers and make it work, then yes. But
if you turn up there and just hope for the best.
Speaker 10 (33:35):
If you're on a pathway and you've got a career
mapped out as a young person, then sure, the opportunities
and always have been enormous. But if you're just I'm
sick of New Zealand, I'm going to lob into Sydney
or Brisbane and see what happens. I don't know that
that's necessarily your answer.
Speaker 2 (33:50):
What's on the big show?
Speaker 10 (33:51):
Oh, we've got the Justice Minister. This business of shoplifting
and the reverse the owners of proof is an interesting
one also, and given the dot Com decision yesterday, we'll
ask him about that as well.
Speaker 2 (34:01):
All Right, brilliant look forward to it. Mike is with
your next here on News Talk SeeDB. Have a great day,
see tomorrow.
Speaker 15 (34:07):
You ing.
Speaker 6 (34:12):
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Speaker 1 (34:16):
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