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Speaker 1 (00:01):
The issues, the interviews and the insight. Ryan Bridge on
early edition with one roof love where you lived, News talks,
it'd be.

Speaker 2 (00:10):
Good morning six after five'll look at this terror attack
and Manchester. Elliott Smith live from Perth for us on
the AVS. The Mardi party is split and Newport regulations
that have got some crying foul.

Speaker 1 (00:22):
The agenda.

Speaker 2 (00:23):
It is friday'd heard of October this terrorist attack and
Manchester regard where suicide vest killed two worshipers. Very sad
day for them.

Speaker 3 (00:30):
Indeed, the attacker has been shot dead by the police.
We believe we know their identity, look for safety reasons
at the scene. We're unable to confirm at this stage.
Three other members of the public are in serious condition.
We have also made two further arrests.

Speaker 2 (00:50):
Get the usual comments from the King and Stara.

Speaker 3 (00:52):
I'm already able to say that additional police assets are
being deployed to Saint God's across the country and we
will do everything our Jewish community say.

Speaker 2 (01:01):
Now it's an update on the flotilla with your grettas
and your TikTok stars.

Speaker 4 (01:05):
We've lost contact with all three of our New Zealanders,
Sam Yusuf and Dunner and yes they've been taken.

Speaker 5 (01:15):
We don't know what's happening.

Speaker 2 (01:16):
Finally, this morning, today is the day that trophoties have
been waiting for. Taylor Swift is dropping her twelfth studio album,
Life of the Showgirl. She created this album during the
European League of Eras tour back in twenty twenty four,
inspired by her life as an entertainer.

Speaker 1 (01:39):
The News You Need this Morning and the in depth
analysis early edition with Ryan Bridge and One Root Love
Where You Live news talks that'd be.

Speaker 2 (01:48):
The flotilla people aren't endearing themselves to the world this morning.
They've come out with a statement. So guy gets out
of his car in Manchester outside of synagogue with a
suicide vest on. This is, according to low witnesses, suicide.
Vest On gets out of the runs someone over. This
is a guy who's a techie who's going to work
watching all this happen on his commute. Guy gets out

(02:10):
of the car, runs someone over and then he thinks, oh,
that must have been a mistake. No, then this man
proceeds to stab the guy on the ground that he's
just run over, and so he realizes this is something more.
This is a terror attack. This is in Manchester, outside
of synagogue. And then he gets up and, according to
this witness, goes in a robotic manner with a knife

(02:33):
from victim to victim. So that's just horrific, isn't it?
Absolutely horrific? And then the flotilla people who are out
there getting close to Israeli water, Israeli waters and getting
themselves on TikTok and getting themselves on Instagram. And there's
a few kiwis there and great protests, whatever you want

(02:54):
to do. They came out and said, can you believe
it on a day like this? Well, you know, Keirs
Starmer has condemned the synagogue attack, but why is he
not condemning the Israelis coming on board our boat and
intercepting Just shut up, honestly, just shut up. People are
being killed there and you're sailing around the world on

(03:16):
a sort of a celebrity tik tok attention seeking mission.
That's basically all I can see you're doing. Nine minutes
after five now you're on News Talk CB. So this
business with to Party Maldi, it was always going to
happen at some point, but something was going to give,
wasn't it. Well, a Kapa Kingi, who is the head

(03:36):
of toy Tatidity, which is the group that did the
protest and did the marches. He's basically called out to
Party Maldi. He's come out and said there's a bit
of a dictatorship going on within to Party Maldi and
it's not really our co Pappa, not really what we're into.
So he's doing a bit of a split. Chippy's got
a problem on his hands, of course, because well he's

(03:58):
got to work with these guys.

Speaker 6 (03:59):
I think Party Marty have got some internal issues of
their own to work through. They look like they're quite
a long way away from being ready to play a
constructive role in any future government.

Speaker 2 (04:08):
So it is comments are crucial. He says there is
a dictatorship going on, and he said that they have
ego driven views on the Malordi electorate seats. So couple
of things. One, this is potentially good for the Labor
Party in terms of getting back those Malori seats because
they are by no means of foregone conclusion to Party Mardi's.

(04:31):
And let's not forget that Edu Kapakingi comes with a
massive and quite organized vocal voting bloc, so that is
a potentially good thing. The bad thing though, of course,
is that you then have a very messy looking to
party Mary that you can't do and deal with, so
you can't get yourself into government. We'll talk to Liam
here about that after. It's just before six this morning,

(04:51):
eleven after five.

Speaker 1 (04:54):
The first word on the News of the Day Early
edition with Ryan Bridge and one roof where you Live
News Talks.

Speaker 2 (05:01):
The'd be five point thirteen and get in touch with
me this morning nine two ninety two. Would love to
hear from you. Happy Friday, Westpac where you can celebrate this.
They are now market leading in their mortgage rates, so
they lead the overall market with an eighteen month four
point four nine percent rate, four point eight five three
year rate and four point nine to nine rate for
four and five years, all ahead of the competition. Still

(05:23):
don't know what's going to happen next week with the
ocr whether they'll go for one or whether they'll go
for a double whammy. In fact, the market is basically
it doesn't know. Fifty basis points is just as likely
as twenty five in its pricing. It is thirteen after
five Bryan Bridge. New rules for pig farmers sales will
now spend time and creates less time, I should say,

(05:44):
and creates a limit on mating stalls and an increased
space for growing pigs by thirteen percent. It'll make our
standards amongst the highest in the world. Farmers get a
ten year window to adjust to this. But what about
the cost and the practicality? Brink prices with me in
did pork CEO Brink? Good morning, Good morning Brent. Good
to have you on the show.

Speaker 7 (06:05):
Morning Ryan.

Speaker 2 (06:06):
How are you very well? Thank you? So what is
the do you have you worked out what this might
cost the industry, what the added cost might be.

Speaker 7 (06:14):
Yeah, I mean it's going to be a lot. There's
a lot of physical changes need to happen on farm.
There'll be some farmers that are looking at especially the
space requirements and realizing they're going to have to rip
out a lot of buildings, maybe even build new ones.
But overall it's something that pig industry recognizes needs to happen.
The position the government's come to on welfare is, you know,

(06:39):
it's going to put us up there with the best
in the world. So the science is backing the positions
they've come to.

Speaker 2 (06:45):
The hard is the cost, Yes, what is the science
telling you about the welfare of the animal.

Speaker 7 (06:53):
Well, you know, far and creates provide piglet protection during
the most moderable days of the piglet's life. They're specifically
designed to reduce the main causes of pivot death, you know, starvation,
high percent there, all those horrible things being crushed by
the sour itself. And so whilst we have been using
them for up to four weeks after the sour gives birth,

(07:15):
the science shows that actually it's just that first four
days that it has the most effect, and after that
we're able to buggets take care of the piglet's needs
without the needs for the South to be so confined.
So most of the rest of the world, in fact,
countries come into that send pork to New Zealand and

(07:36):
I can listen, you know, USA, Canada, Spain, Australia, Netherlands,
Pole and Ireland, UK, China, Italy, Belgium, all of them
send pork products or pork to New Zealand, and all
of them have no restriction on the Usafarian creates or
any confinement at all. So we're up there with the
best of the world. But we've just got to figure
out the real issue of leveling the playing field against imports.

Speaker 2 (07:59):
Yes, this is the problem, right because we import. I mean,
in terms of what you produce as an industry, how
much of it is it exported versus stays here?

Speaker 7 (08:08):
Almost zero gets exported.

Speaker 2 (08:10):
Right, So you're competing now with countries who've got much
lower standards. Therefore it's going to be cheaper. How do
you do? How do you compete? Yeah?

Speaker 7 (08:17):
Sixty percent of what people eat here is imported. And
a lot of the countries that actually are I guess
close to or on some respects considered to have more
stringent standards in New Zealand, there's only about three of them. Sweden, Switzerland,
Norway are really good examples. They've got significant government subsidization.

(08:40):
Up to sixty percent of Norway's farm income on pig
farms is government funded. And New Zealand that's what we're
competing with you and they don't have imports coming in either, right.

Speaker 2 (08:55):
So you do? What do you do? Then? Do we
have some kind of import standard that they need to
meet on animal welfare?

Speaker 7 (09:03):
That would be ideal, though we've got trade considerations that
I'm sure the government's very worried about. I think if
consumers were able to make better choices if they were
able to see labeling and information about where their pork's
coming from a lot clearer in stores. That would really help.
It would give people the choice and in the retailers

(09:24):
and those that use pork products in New Zealand making
the right choice and thinking about the standards the pork's
produced under and what they want to support with the
money they pay for it by choosing to buy New Zealand.
It's going to be very, very difficult, I think, to
convince the government to change import rules, but that is

(09:46):
the ideal.

Speaker 2 (09:46):
They've got trade deals and stuff to worry about. As
you say, Brent, appreciate your time to brink Class sounding
pretty upbeat despite what the extra cost will mean for them.
Brink Class, the n Z pork chief executive with us
this morning. I guess the moral of the story is
if you care about animal welfare, and obviously we do
because this is a pro farming a government that's changing
this law, then you go and buy. When you go
to the supermarket to buy your pork, you go and

(10:08):
find something that is produced here. Eighteen after five News
Talk SEBB.

Speaker 1 (10:13):
Get ahead of the headlines on early edition with Ryan
Bridge and one roof Love where you Live News Talk seb.

Speaker 2 (10:21):
But more on that terror attack over in Manchester shortly
just gone twenty after five. The AI boom, a lot
of people worrying all was it gonna be like an
Internet bubble? Is it going to burst at some point? Well,
there's a brit by the name of James Anderson. He
was an early backer in Tesla. He was an early
backer in Amazon ten Cen, which is Ali Barba, so
lots of good stuff that grew in value. Knows what

(10:42):
he's talking about, He said, Actually, I haven't been worried
about an AI bubble at all until recently. When you
know OpenAI, which does chat gpt, and its rival Anthropic,
they both increase their evaluations massively just in the last
few months. So Open Eye our Open Ai forgive Me
reportedly and talks about a share sale that would value

(11:05):
it at five hundred billion US dollars. That's up from
three hundred billion just in April, and up from one
hundred and fifty seven billion last October, so quite the
meteoric rise. Anthropic, on the other hand, has trebled its
valuation recently, going from sixty billion in March to one
hundred and seventy billion last month. He says the scale

(11:27):
of that jump and the pace bothers him. Twenty one
after five, we've got the final round of the Rugby
Championship this weekend. The All Blacks take on the Wallaby's
in Perth to sold out Opta Stadium. It's ten forty
five pm our time, Saturday night. Elliott Smith News Talks.
AB's voice of rugby is the Elliott. Good morning morning Ryan.
So what's a vibe like over there?

Speaker 8 (11:48):
Yeah, it's been a big build up. Obviously the Wallaby's
gone with a little bit of confidence given the way
they were able to appreciate the All Blacks the last week.
It wasn't quite enough to win the Bledders Load Cup.
But since there is an opportunity to get first win
over the All Blacks since twenty twenty ten straight. The
All Blacks have one. But you know, the Warby's certainly

(12:10):
knocked off, not knocked off by the defeat last week
in Auckland and sensing there was a chance to cause
some kiwi pane this weekend.

Speaker 2 (12:17):
We've got a few other injuries. Boden Barrett's out any
concerns there.

Speaker 8 (12:21):
Yeah, I think you'd be up for two to three weeks. Well,
the sound of it should be okay. For Chicago. Damien
McKenzie comes in. He's been the understudy all year long
for Boden Barrett. Came off the bench instead the ship
for an hour last week, so not a huge drop necessarily,
but Boden Barrett's certainly the first choice and that All

(12:42):
Blacks set up. They lose Ethan de Groot as well
up front to Mighty Williams comes through. This is all
about finding that depth, of course, ahead of the twenty
twenty seven World Cup. Couple of other selections as well,
with Peter Luktai coming in at number eight, which is
a real surprise when that was named yesterday here in Australia,
and also Quinta Pie at center, so a couple of surprises.

(13:04):
Just as the All Blacks try to find a little
bit of depth. There's not many opportunities to build those
depths with such a congested test schedule and everyone being
so even around the world at the moment, so trying
to find those opportunities to learn a little bit more
about some of these players are few and far between,
but that's what Scott Robinson's done this week not quite
as conservative, maybe as we expected it to be.

Speaker 2 (13:25):
Very even Stevens. Assuming we beat the Wallabies in Perth
them were onto this Grand Slam tour. What do we
need to do there?

Speaker 8 (13:33):
Well, I think that any inconsistency is the focus for
the All Blacks. If they went on Saturday night, that's
two in a row. First I've been able to do
that in the Rugby Championship, and then as you said,
you know they got Ireland, who are always tough, that's
in Chicago. England are really really tricky at home, Scotland
having never beaten the All Blacks in Edinburgh, but will
fancy their chances, and then Wales surround out the year.

(13:56):
The All Blacks need to win and keep winning and
building that momentum because there are so many questions around
this All Blacks team and until they start stringing wins together,
these questions are going to remain. So once we sit
back at the end of the year, over the summer
and can look back at the record for the year,
that's probably when we'll know how on track this All

(14:16):
Blacks team is ahead of twenty twenty seven.

Speaker 2 (14:18):
He is hoping Elliott Smith, NEWSTALKSB Voice of Rugby and Perth.
It is twenty four after five News Talks FB the early.

Speaker 1 (14:25):
Edition full the Show podcast on iHeartRadio powered by.

Speaker 2 (14:28):
NEWSTALKSB NEWSTALKSB twenty six minutes after five. At what point
do you say this local government election is a failure,
a flop, not worth the paper it's written on. I
think we can pretty much do that now. Even in Auckland,
our biggest city, the super city, with all the responsibility
after amalgamation, the turnout after two weeks nine percent last

(14:50):
time in total thirty five percent. That's not a mandate.
That's a vote of no confidence. And if you think
about it, it's not like Kerewies aren't engaged in democracy.

Speaker 7 (14:59):
More.

Speaker 2 (15:00):
We vote in the national elections that are very closer
to eighty percent. So then you ask yourself what's the
problem with local government? Two things. One, there's too many
of them. You've got to get rid of regional councils.
You can have the number of local ones. Surely turn
the system from a council mayor to a mayor council system.
More on that in a second. We've got something like

(15:21):
seventy eight local authorities for five million people. It's just nuts,
it's dumb. Once they get to the council table, of course,
the mayor becomes a cuck to whoever looney nutbar widow
was elected to the council and a few hundred votes
would have got them there. Of course doesn't take much,
and they've all got dreams of riding their bikes to work.
So here's the problem why people don't vote. They don't

(15:44):
vote because the powers too evenly shared. I think we
vote in a guy who's just told the rate paying
group we're about to to f off. Did you see
that yesterday? Wayne Brown, in an email to the Ratepayers
Alliance said just f off. And the problem with that
is we voted this guy in and even he struggles
to shake things up. So we need a better system.

(16:08):
Most councils should be put in the bin, and we
need a strong mayor system. This is where the mayor
has veto power over legislation. They appoint the department heads
and they control the budget. One man or women, one plan,
get it done. Until then, there's no point in voting

(16:29):
for this hodgepodge bunch of do nothing naval gazers sitting
around thinking about what's on the menu for the next
ratepayer funded lunch? Ryan Bridge twenty eight minutes after five
News Talks. He'd been talking about the banks earlier. You know,
we had the earthquake changes come through from the government
this week, which is great to see, but what does
that mean that the banks are going to lend on

(16:49):
these So you've had all of these buildings sitting empty
on a list, on a register saying no, they don't
go in there because if an earthquake comes, you'll be
crushed and killed. And now magically the government's is it's okay,
they're off the register. Are the banks going to be
flooding into offer lending. The answer at this stage is
basically they don't know. They're still reading into it. But

(17:11):
the thing is it doesn't necessarily mean a building that
was on the list but then taken off may still
be too risky for the banks to lend on, you
know what I mean, They have other criteria. We'll get
to the UK on this terror attack after news on
News Talk SETB.

Speaker 1 (17:38):
On your radio and online on iHeartRadio Early edition with
Ryan Bridge and one Root Love where you Live.

Speaker 2 (17:47):
News Talk said, be pretty far away from six Welcome
to your Friday morning. We'll live to the UK where
there's been a terror attack on a Jewish commit unity
in Manchester. The multi parties imploding this morning. We'll look
at that before top of the hour as well. We
were just discussing the earthquake, strengthening changes that have been

(18:09):
made or lack of changes that have been made, and
what that would mean for the banks. Ryan says this text.
I spoke to my insurance company yesterday. The government's changes
mean absolutely nothing. The building is still low quality. The
announcement does not actually change the engineering issues.

Speaker 9 (18:24):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (18:25):
I think that we might increasingly find that's the case,
both for lending from banks and for insurance cover. These
changes will mean deadly squat twenty three away from six. Now,
let's go to our reporters around the country and we'll
start with Calm, Proxter and Needing. Colum the first anniversary
of the Dunedin floods today. Yeah, look, that's right.

Speaker 4 (18:45):
State of emergency was put in place a year ago
after rainfall superseded averages for the month of October. In
just twelve hours alone, it caused widespread slips, flooding one
hundred and eighty mills. In fact, fell in two days,
dred scent Cident's had to evacuate their homes and the
civil Defense bunker was activated here.

Speaker 2 (19:05):
So a year on, what's changed? Counselor and Meryl candidate here.

Speaker 4 (19:07):
Sophie Barkers says the community we're upset then and that
is still echoing now. She says South to Needan has
become somewhat of a poster child for climate change. As
a result, Barker says they've put more than twenty nine
million dollars of flood alleviation plans in place for South
Donedan in future.

Speaker 2 (19:25):
All Right, how's the weather today?

Speaker 4 (19:27):
Cloud breaking to find spouse today, drizzle developing.

Speaker 2 (19:30):
Tonight's the high today? Fourteen jeers Callum Courtney and christ
Jay Courtney.

Speaker 10 (19:34):
Good morning, Ryan.

Speaker 2 (19:35):
What's going on at the hot pools?

Speaker 10 (19:37):
So New Brighton's teirpoona Taimiwana is hosting a starlight cinema
soak every Thursday, Saturday and Sunday this month and this
will start next week. It's an adult only event that
gives hot pool as a chance to relax in custom
made floating hammocks. Will movies play on the big screen
and they're kicking things off with Magic Mike. Manager Meren

(19:58):
Skipper says it's been on their Trea board since the
pool's opened in twenty twenty and it's looking like it'll
sell out.

Speaker 2 (20:04):
Oh, it sounds quite cool. How's your weather?

Speaker 10 (20:06):
Mostly cloudy, apatche drizzle before more rain late at night.
Northeasterlies are high of thirteen.

Speaker 2 (20:12):
Thanks so much, mex and Wellington Morning Max, Good morning,
closer look at water loss in Wellington? What have you found?

Speaker 11 (20:19):
Well, look, everyone has been patting themselves on the back
lately about how much better we're doing in terms of
those water leaks, bursting pipes, water usage, et cetera. We
should be fading any serious restrictions this summer. Touch would
at the post this morning has a story though, taking
a closer look at the numbers, Obviously there's been record
investment in the billions in Wellington. Wellington Water says thanks

(20:42):
to that money, we've saved four billion liters of drinking
water in the year to July, water that was previously
being lost. But ultimately, let's not get too excited because
daily in the capital we still lose about sixty five
to seventy million liters of water a day. I opened
up the calculator. Some quick, that's almost thirty Olympic swimming
pools worth of water that we're losing drinking water each

(21:05):
day in Wellington, water loss only improving from forty one
percent to thirty seven. We're still hemorrhaging water. It's not good.
The infrastructure still deteriorating, and Wellington we are still essentially
the worst in the country. We may be doing better,
but we're still the worst. And the message is everyone
should be thinking very carefully still about usage over the summer.

Speaker 2 (21:27):
Good for you. How's your winner? Thank you? Some clouds,
some drizzle sixteen. It's funny, isn't it, because you're going
to have to conserve water, but so much of it's
being wasted. I don't know. It's it's infrastructure, isn't it.
Thank you Max. Neighbors in Auckland, Hey, Neva havevy Friday?
Now things better in Auckland.

Speaker 12 (21:46):
No, Well look what have you got? Well look, let's
talk about dogs and dog owners. So Auckland councils dished
out more than six thousand fines to dog owners who've repeatedly,
as we know, ignored warnings to register your pets. So
it's an increase of about seven point five percent. This
is on last year's five and a half thousand. So
the council says, despite countless changes and chances to meet requirements,

(22:10):
more than twenty nine thousand dogs remain unregistered in the city.

Speaker 2 (22:14):
That's a lot, as matters a lot. So and do
they find them? I've always wondered about this. Do they
find them only if they come across them unregistered in
a park? Or do you get sent a letter saying
your hair is a fine because you didn't register it?

Speaker 8 (22:27):
You know what I mean?

Speaker 12 (22:28):
Yeah, exactly.

Speaker 2 (22:29):
I know somebody who doesn't register their dogs. Oh, I
know it's not me, and and he's registered, and he's registered,
she's got her little color tag and everything. But I
know a guy who doesn't do it because he says
it's two hundred bucks. I was going to ask you
how much it is two hundred or more than two
hundred dollars every time you do it? And it's like,
what is that actually getting me? It's paying for the
pound for owners who are terrible with their dogs, not responsible.

Speaker 12 (22:52):
Well, do you know what I'm going to say to
that If you can't pay it, don't have a flip
and pet dog.

Speaker 2 (22:57):
I don't have one good advice. No, it's it's true.
It's true, it's good advice.

Speaker 1 (23:02):
That's right.

Speaker 2 (23:03):
Got to do it properly.

Speaker 12 (23:04):
Niva has great advice. Scatted rain becoming widespread, heavier by
the afternoon as thunderstorms possible tonight. Wow a high of twenty.

Speaker 2 (23:13):
Happy Friday, Neva nineteen away from six News Talk c B.
We'll get to our UK correspondent Vincent mcavinie next on
this Manchester synagogue terror attack. Also will speak to Liam
here on the Mardi party before top of the Art.
Paul says, good morning. It's sixteen minutes away from six.
Paul says, Ryan labors still have three major problems. One
no policies, Two the Greens are as bad and mad

(23:35):
as to party Maldi, and three Chippies denying responsibility for
all and everything. We'll talk to Liam here about that.
He's on the show in just a few seconds.

Speaker 1 (23:43):
International correspondence with Ends and Eye Insurance, Peace of mind
for New Zealand business.

Speaker 2 (23:49):
First of this terror attack at a synagogue in Manchester,
joining US Vincent mcaviny are UK europe correspondent Vincent. What's
the latest here?

Speaker 13 (23:57):
Well, we are trying to unpick what happened. We under
stand at about nine thirty one this morning, the police
received a call that a man had crashed into a
crowd outside a synagogue which was busy because it's Yom Kapor,
a very holy festival day, and had got out the
car and then proceeded to start stabbing people. Now, when
police arrived and they were there within about five minutes,

(24:19):
they had managed to barricade the worshipers, barricade themselves inside
the synagogue. The man couldn't access it. Police warned him
to stop and ultimately they had to shoot him. He
then seemed to be trying to trigger a device which
was on his body, and police had to then shoot
him again to kill him. So we understand he managed
to kill two people outside. Four people were injured by him.

(24:42):
Three are said to be in a critical condition in hospital.
It's been declared a terrorist incident, and Prime Minister to
kiss Arma rushed back from a meeting in Denmark to
cherry security Cabinet meeting just now. We understand that there
will be increased security at Jewish schools at Jewish synagogue,
backed up by the police in the coming days after

(25:03):
what has been a really horrible incident, but many members
of the UK Jewish community say they've expected something like
this for some time, because they say there's been rising
anti semitism in this country ever since the October seventh attack.

Speaker 2 (25:16):
I was going to say that while the keirstamus is
this is a shock and shocking, those Jewish communities say, actually,
we are not surprised. Has there been any response on
that line, particularly in light of the pro Palestine or
what some believe Prohamas approaches that have been going on.

Speaker 13 (25:34):
Yeah, I mean in terms of the reaction sort of officially,
you know, every sort of faith group in the UK
has responded condemning the attack. Politicians from across the spectrum
also condemning it. Members of the Jewish community have said that,
you know that they have felt under threat for the
last two years that they've seen this creeping up. You know,
I'm not sure it worked the same in New Zealand,

(25:55):
but we have something called the Community Safety Trust here,
which means that all sort of Jewish schools and synagogues
have their own twenty four hour security operation themselves, and
they say that they've needed to sort of up that
to make sure that's been effective to stop any kind
of attacks being taken out, but that they've warned police
that the levels of violence so sort of hate that

(26:15):
they felt what they were seeing in marches that meant
that something like this was inevitable to them, and sadly
it's happened. So the police know the identity of the attacker,
they've not yet released it. We understand two other people
have been arrested at a separate location, but unclear yet
what the connection is there, but we'll find out in
the coming days.

Speaker 2 (26:35):
All right, we'll do, Thanks so much. Vincent Mecavini, a
UK europe correspondent. Time is ditching and it's away from
six Ryan Bridge. More drama for the party, Maori Iru Kapakini.
This is the guy who led that big protuse, big
hikhoy over the treaty bill. He's cap ties with the party,
saying it's run like a dictatorship. Talks about it being
ego driven. Chris Hippins of course not rolling out working

(26:56):
with them next year, but sees they're a long way
from government. Needs to sort their oct doubt. Liam here
as political commentator with me this morning. Liam, Good morning
and good morning here, right, So is this good in
some ways potentially good for Labor on the MALDI seats
and but also bad in terms of forming a government.

Speaker 9 (27:13):
No, I think it's only bad. I don't think that
these type of internal ructions really weaken the minor parties
in the way that they weaken major parties in terms
of how they go with the voters. You know, we've
seen in the past. You know, the Greens have had
a terrible couple of years, right, and the Greens have
had some internal ructions in the past. But because of

(27:36):
the dynamics of how the works of their voters and
how their voters they energize and motivated by different things,
is they don't seem to go down in the polls
or perform any worse. As long as they basically hold together,
they can have quite a lot of internal discord and
still retain their voter base. So I think it's only

(27:58):
bad for Labor given that Labor. There hasn't been a
single polls as a general election showing Labor able to
form a government at TPM. And the fact of the
matter is that while TPM might not be materially damaged
by this, Labor will be because Labor will have the
association and it's Labor voters, he will be repelled by

(28:19):
it's not TPM voters.

Speaker 2 (28:21):
Which is why you're here to be saying this.

Speaker 6 (28:23):
I think to party Marty have got some internal issues
of their own to work through. They look like they're
quite a long way away from being ready to play
a constructive role in any future government.

Speaker 2 (28:31):
Is that basically like a kickoup the JACKSI he's they've
still got time to turn their party around and be
a credible partner for them.

Speaker 9 (28:39):
Well, it's not really within't his control. I don't think,
you know, talking about being if he's ruling them out
with not if he's saying that they're a long way
off of being a constructive party in government with him,
But he's essentially saying that he was to be in government, right, So, like,

(28:59):
you know, perhaps it's a it's probably the strongest sort
of statement that Labor leaders even made about TVM in
recent years, which just goes to show how reliant they
are on TVM. It's pretty weak objectively, but ultimately, if
that's the strongest kind of distancing you're going to get, well,
you know, that's actually pretty weak.

Speaker 2 (29:19):
What about the Marty seats themselves, do you think we
could see support moving to because obviously the tide's been
turning against labor. Could we see as a result of
this break of the movement some more support for labor
in the Marty seats.

Speaker 9 (29:35):
No, I don't think so, because all of us is,
all of us is inside baseball, right. It's it's not
the type of thing that in those seats is going
to make the difference. You've still got all the energy
on the on the TPMs sort of side, and I
think the best analogy is to the Scottish National Party,

(29:56):
which has sort of wiped out labor in Scotland and
which hasn't really been slung down in that regard by
its own difficulties, internal breakdowns in arguments and sectionalism fun
time design. The more dominant thing is that actually TPM
is a more dynamic, more populist movement, and then the

(30:19):
Mauldi uturates, which are a low turnout lecturates. It's actually
that type of energy that matters a lot more. And
I think that the by election, the reason by ection
is really the sin of things to come.

Speaker 2 (30:30):
They appreciate that analysis. Thank you, Liam. Here with us
Political commentator time is nine to six news talk set big.

Speaker 1 (30:37):
Views and views you trust to start your day. It's
early edition with Brian Bridge and one roof Love where
you Live News Talks a B.

Speaker 2 (30:47):
Seven minutes away from six on News Talks. Heb so
it's here starmus Is is shocked by this terror attack
in Manchester. But there's a lot of people saying we
shouldn't be shocked because we've had pro Palestine or some
say pro Hamas rallies up and down the street to
this country four years now. And here's British political journalist
Julia Hartley Brewer having a go Prime Minister.

Speaker 5 (31:07):
I don't think you have done enough to keep our
Jewish community safe. I think when you happily allow these
pro Palestinian marchers on the streets, and yeah, the last
government did too. I think it was a point when
they were supportive of the Palestinian people and people in Gaza.
They're just pro Hammus March. There's a lot of people
who organize them are very very closely linked with Hamas
Terras who launched the attack on October seven.

Speaker 2 (31:26):
So you can imagine what Faraj is going to say
about all this. He's a spected to talk shortly times.
Ryan Bridge six to two now and Mike's here morning. Mike,
greetings to you. Ryan, good to see you. How are
you complaining about the lights this morning?

Speaker 1 (31:39):
See.

Speaker 2 (31:40):
I don't want to bring.

Speaker 14 (31:41):
Body with the technical details of putting this.

Speaker 2 (31:43):
Program to a but you need to be able to see.

Speaker 14 (31:46):
I raised with management a couple of weeks ago the
problem with the lights in the studio, which were about
one hundred and twelve years old and had a yellow
tinge to them, and I said, this is unacceptable, let's
do something about it, and they said, no problem. All
several days later, people have been up with hivers, vests
and ladders and things like that. And turns out Glenn

(32:07):
tells me no one's actually come to me officially from management.
Turns out Glenn tells me it costs thousands, thousands upon
thousands of dollars to rectify the situation. And part of
the problem the lights were too yellow is the problem.
They're old, they faded light. You know when late lights
get old. Yeah, they're virtually candles.

Speaker 2 (32:22):
So you and the problem for you is that you
couldn't read the paper.

Speaker 14 (32:25):
I don't know, it's just the light was inconsistent in
the studio. You had bright lights and dull lights. And
I like a good consistent light. I like to be
so I like to curate my surroundings. Okay, so none of.

Speaker 2 (32:35):
Us are getting pay rises.

Speaker 14 (32:36):
And they go out and so it was the drivers,
not the bulb. So they're out there buying parallel importing
cheap drivers from China, and so anyway, they do all
of this, and they and I say thank you very much. Anyway,
the next it's gone out again.

Speaker 2 (32:49):
It's another one flickering light in the studio this morning,
another one.

Speaker 14 (32:52):
So they're going to be back up with the Hiver's
vests in the latter.

Speaker 2 (32:55):
Can I ask you a very quick question.

Speaker 14 (32:56):
Yes, you're the wrong person to ask, because you've got
no taste in cars because you drive the station Wagon.
Does the name of a car do anything for you
as the purchaser of the vehicle if you were in
the market buy a car.

Speaker 2 (33:08):
Do you mean like the Corolla part of it or the.

Speaker 14 (33:11):
Audi part of it, the Weston Martin power, Yes and no.
Would you buy a dong thing?

Speaker 2 (33:17):
Yeah, I've been looking at the Dong things this morning.
They basically look like Tesla's. What do you mean with
the actual name, would you yeah?

Speaker 14 (33:24):
Yeah, what do you drive, I drive a dong thing.
I mean, would you say that, of course you wouldn't say.

Speaker 2 (33:28):
That, well, you just maybe you'd say it's a DF
What about a Yang Wing? Well, the other ones. I'm
surprised how many new cars we had, the Zeka, the Pharisen,
the x Pang and the im.

Speaker 14 (33:43):
There's five new brands, incredible in the last two months.
Now that's all going to end in tears, isn't it.
You know you can't open and they'll break. How well
is the dong thing gonna go in the New Zealand market? Anyway,
We're going to look at this on the program this morning,
along with Jordi Barrett.

Speaker 2 (33:57):
By the way, Yeah, oh nice, nice, very good. Yeah,
I'd probably take a dong thing. In fact, if you
want to give me a free dong thing, I'll take it. Tomorrow.
News Talk SPV have a great day.

Speaker 1 (34:12):
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