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Speaker 1 (00:01):
The issues, the interviews and the insight. Francesca Rudgin on
earlier show with r the Supercenter explore r V successories
and servicing all in one news talks.
Speaker 2 (00:12):
They'd be good morning, welcome to early edition. I'm Francisco
Budkinfiling and for Ryan, You're most welcome to contact me
anytime this morning. You can flict me a text on
ninety two ninety two or you can email me at
Francesca at Newstalk ZBF co dot MZ right coming up
on the show, how serious is President Trump when it
comes to resuming nuclear testing for the first time in
more than thirty years? Can the All Blacks defeat Island
(00:34):
in Chicago? On Sunday? And before the end of the hour,
Minister of howth Samim Brown is with us on the
measles outbreak.
Speaker 3 (00:42):
The agenda.
Speaker 2 (00:44):
It's Friday, the thirty first of October, and the match
hyped Donald Trump President She meeting appears to have got results.
Trump has agreed to reduce tarrifs on China by ten
percent in exchange for China cracking down on its flow
of fentanel. China will resume importing American sweepings as well,
and rare earth export limits have been paused. Trump is happy,
but it.
Speaker 4 (01:04):
Was so amazing, meaning he's a great letterer, great leader
of a very powerful, very strong country, China. What can
I say?
Speaker 1 (01:14):
It was an outstanding.
Speaker 4 (01:17):
A group of decisions. I think that was made a
lot of decisions remained too. I said, you're much left
out there.
Speaker 2 (01:24):
Jamaica is now in rebuild mode after the devastation of
Hurricane Melissa. It's left at least thirty two dead throughout
the Caribbean, but the State Minister is feeling positive.
Speaker 5 (01:34):
It would have been worse because capitalisty the Kingston, which
is the center of mobilization efforts, pardinage relief and disaster fearedness,
has been generally I would sit unscared or not badly
affected by the hurricane.
Speaker 2 (01:50):
There's been another five arrests in the Louver heist saga.
They were detained overnight during coordinated raids, but say there's
still no indication Love staff had anything to do with it.
Speaker 6 (02:00):
They've interviewed a lot of people inside the Louver staff
members and yesterday the prosecutor said that at this stage
they did not suspect that this was an inside job,
but she did suggest that there were very likely other
members involved, that this wasn't just a four man gang,
that this could have been part of a much bigger
criminal network.
Speaker 2 (02:20):
And back on the UIs government shutdown watch, which has
been dragging on since the beginning of October, the Republicans
are still squarely blaming the Democrats.
Speaker 7 (02:29):
The Democrat Party is now controlled, as I said, by
the Marxist activists, dark money donors. This is not a
grassroots effort and anti American ideologies is dominating this and
they would rather destroy the system than to lose power.
Speaker 1 (02:46):
Get ahead of the headlines on early edition with Francesca
Rudkin and are the Supercenter the explore are these accessories
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Speaker 2 (02:56):
It'd be It is nine past five, okay, So Andrew
Bailey story is back to cause the National Party some
more headaches. You may remember he resigned his ministerial portfolios
in February after he faced allegations he put a hand
on a staffer's arm during what was called an animated
discussion that came after the weird incident at a winery
(03:17):
where he called a worker a loser and he put
the l on his forehead and things. But now the
story has got a bit murky. Even more murky. Bailey
was on with Heather last night saying he regrets resigning
as it's been revealed there was no formal complaint about
the February allegations or formal investigation by the DIA. He
told Heather he was led to believe the country and
(03:39):
has even confirmed that with a staff involved.
Speaker 8 (03:43):
When I rang the person, the male who I put
my hand on in an encouraging way, he told me
when I rang him that he had not made the allegation.
Speaker 2 (03:54):
He also talked about the fact that he is full
of regret.
Speaker 8 (03:57):
In a rightly wrong vie. I shouldn't have offered that resonation.
If I'd known what I know now, I wouldn't.
Speaker 3 (04:02):
Have offered it.
Speaker 2 (04:03):
So what does he want now?
Speaker 8 (04:07):
I would obviously love to be administer a game, and
now that other informations come to light, I just want
people to know what the real situation is.
Speaker 2 (04:15):
Right, So the Prime Minister has been asked about it overnight.
Speaker 6 (04:19):
I trust DIA and the bottom line is that I
had information at the time. Information Today I look at
it and I go, Yep, he made the right decision.
Speaker 3 (04:26):
It was his choice to resign.
Speaker 2 (04:29):
I'm not sure I trust the DIA. This is very murky.
The presumption now surely has to be someone else wanted
him gone, and the way they went about it, it's
not a good look. Bailey's always been a little bit quirky,
hasn't he? And the information that we got around that
February incident never quite made sense. I always felt that actually,
(04:52):
this was just another thing he kind of got wrong.
And he was at the point going, actually, maybe politics
isn't for me, Parliament isn't where I need to be.
I got the feeling he was fed up a voice
sort of being in the limelight about all these little incidents,
and he just went, I'm out of here. But obviously
that was not the case, and it has all been
handled very poorly, and Bailey is right and trying to
clear his name and correct the facts. But I still
(05:16):
wonder who resigns without really understanding why they're resigning, without
getting all the facts. Wouldn't you ask the information on
the formal complaints so you can respond or get legal advice?
He spoke as he said to the person he presumed
made the formal complaint just before resigning and they confirmed
that they've not made a formal complaint. Surely that's a
little red flag just to pause. So it just remains
(05:38):
a little bit baffling. And for someone who resigned so
that they didn't cause a distraction for the Prime Minister
in the National Party, he surely has created a very
interesting distraction.
Speaker 3 (05:52):
News Talk said Bee, so cay.
Speaker 2 (05:54):
To hear your thoughts on this one. You're most welcome
to text me throughout the morning. Ninety two ninety two.
To be honest with you, I'm not sure that even
if he got off at his job back that he
would take their job, and that's probably the place for
him to be. I feel like maybe time has done there,
but absolutely these things need to be done. Any One
in HJR Will tell you there are processes to go
through and you've got to do these things correctly. And
(06:14):
it really does start to sound like somebody wanted him
out the door and they got him out the door,
and that is coming back to bite them in that
you know where it is twelve past five. You with
early edition News Talk, SETB Views.
Speaker 1 (06:27):
And views you trust to start your day. It's earlyer
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Speaker 2 (06:38):
At b It's fourteen past five. Donald Trump is playing
the nuke card. The US president has ordered his Department
of Defense slash Water immediately begin nuclear weapons testing, something
that the US hasn't done since the nineties. Foreign policy
analyst Jeffrey Millet is with me now. Good morning, Jeffrey,
Good morning, Francesca. He said, this is a warning shot
to his enemies. Who are we talking about here, China, Russia.
Speaker 9 (07:02):
Or both of them? I think, Francesca, and you know,
you can say, well, this is the typical saber rattling
of the Trump presidency, and this is the world that
we live in. But I think we need to be
aware here of the power of a nuclear conflict. I
think we've largely forgotten or underappreciated the nuclear dimension in
these constant geopolitical tensions. But you've got to remember that
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the US and Russia both still have over five thousand
nuclear warheads. Out's well down from the peaks of the
Cold War. But if we suddenly see them back nuclear testing,
that would be the first time since the mid nineteen
nineties that we've seen China, Russia, in the United States
testing nuclear weapons, and that could be well on the cards.
So I think we really need to dial back the
(07:45):
tensions here because this is more than just a typical
Trump outburst on social media. I mean, nuclear weapons can
have real consequences and we certainly have seen that in history.
Speaker 2 (07:56):
So you think that there is a possibility he will
actually begin nuclear tests again.
Speaker 9 (08:01):
Yes, the escalation is in play, isn't it. And we've
seen this in so many dimensions now over the past
few years. I mean, the world is a much scarier
place now than it was, and we've seen the nuclear
dimension come into play in the war in Ukraine, for example,
that the zuparasion. Nuclear partners come under attack numerous times
(08:22):
in the war between Russia, Russia and Ukraine. We saw
that war between India and Pakistan earlier in the year.
Two nuclear powers. They conducted a nuclear test back in
nineteen ninety eight, but since then it's only been North
Korea that has tested nuclear weapons. We've got a comprehensive
nuclear test ban treaty that was agreed in the mid nineties,
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but China, Russia, and the United States have not ratified that.
Speaker 3 (08:46):
Well.
Speaker 9 (08:47):
Russia did ratify it and then pulled out a couple
of years ago. The United States and China have never
ratified that treaty. So we need to, I think, step
back from the brink here. And that's the game that
Donald Trump is playing constantly, This game of brinksmanship. When
you go right to the brink of war, then you
pull back in clear victory. It is, I think, a
(09:08):
scary way to do politics, a scary way to do geopolitics.
It is Trump's game. We've seen that very successful meeting
over between Donald Trump and Jjingking. It has come out
with a deal. I mean that's a good news story.
But you wonder what will come next week or next
month with Donald Trump. I mean, nothing is really ever
set in stone, and you never know how long it's
(09:28):
going to be before he changes his mind.
Speaker 2 (09:30):
Jeffrey Miller, thank you so much. Always appreciate your thoughts.
Of course, the question is where would he teaest? I mean,
the Nimbi's will be out in force over this one, right,
I mean, no one's going to do it in your backyard.
Next we are going to head too Chicago. It is
eighteen past five.
Speaker 1 (09:46):
Franchessca Rudkin on early edition with r VS Supercenter, Explore,
r V success Or Resents, servicing all in one news talks.
Speaker 2 (09:54):
It'd be okay. So the All Blacks Grand Slam Tour
gets underway this weekend with arguably the toughest test. They'll
be back at Chicago's Soldier Field on Sunday morning, taking
on Ireland. Of course, we all remember the last time
these two met in Chicago twenty sixteen. We're famously Island
recorded its first win over the All Blacks. Our voice
of Rugby, Elliott Smith, is in Chicago and he joins me, Now,
(10:15):
good morning.
Speaker 10 (10:17):
Hi, Francesca.
Speaker 2 (10:17):
What's the vibe like? Is everyone amped and looking forward
to a game of rugby?
Speaker 10 (10:22):
It's quite interesting. I mean it sold out and months
ago as well, sixty one thousand capacity for the game,
but barring a few lampost flags, you probably wouldn't know
it's on. And that's fine. Look it said. It's one
of those things in a big city that sometimes these
things don't break through, and it's a sport that isn't
one that is widely popular in the masses. And you know,
(10:45):
I think Chicago's probably more focused on the Chicago Bullside,
which have started four an Oer to start the NBA season.
Then there's teest for having said that you don't sell
sixty thousand by accident. And there'll be you know, plenty
of fans and you know a lot of Irish people
in Chicago and a lot of ex that's coming through
from both nations and those also coming from the countries
flying in for the game. So promises to be a
(11:06):
special occasion, even if it's not tearing the headlines off
the front pages of the paper.
Speaker 2 (11:10):
At the moment, considering the All Blacks Rugby Championship, are
you confident that they can take Ireland?
Speaker 10 (11:16):
Look, I think they can take Ireland. Island coming in cold.
They haven't played as a group since the Six Nations.
Andy Farrell, their head coach, wasn't head coach on that occasion.
He took a break to focus on his Lions duty.
So it's been a while. In fact, last year's end
of year tour withhe All Blacks had success over Ireland.
Since that they were all together as a proper group,
with all the management and all the players in the
(11:38):
right place. So they come in a little bit cold
to this test matcher. They've had a diet of urec.
They played each other in a derby a lot of
these players last weekend, so they've had a bit of
a hitout internally as well as my understanding, but they
come in a little bit cold. But the All Blacks,
you know, they're right in the middle of the season
or in the back end of their season. The Rugby
Championship fills you probably was not a great deal confidence.
(12:00):
They beat the Wallabies obviously to finish it off, but
that heavy loss to the spring Box and Tina losing
in Buenos Aires as well gives you the sense that,
you know, it's the old Forest Gump analogy, you know,
the All Backs. At the moment, you just don't know
what you're going to get. And it could be a
win this weekend, they could set themselves on to a
Grand Slam, or it could be a defeat to you know,
(12:23):
the Irish, and the Grand Slam's gone at the first hurdle.
So look, there's a lot of improvements needed by the
All Blacks and that starts this weekend.
Speaker 2 (12:29):
What would losing again in the US do to the
All Blacks brand because we are playing there purely for
commercial reasons for the advertisers.
Speaker 10 (12:36):
Yeah, I think they need to keep up appearances by winning,
and you know that's where they drive a lot of
their revenue is obviously their historical record, and the record
over the last few seasons hasn't been good enough. So
you've got to deliver on that. You've got to show
the sponsors that are backing us. That's got you know,
Gallagher is the naming rights sponsor on the back of
their shorts, but also for the fixture itself. You know,
(12:58):
they expect success, So it's you know, it's contingent on it.
And the more you lose, the less commercially lucrative you
are potentially to some of those overseas markets where you're
selling the success story of the All Black So I
think it's imperative that they do pick up these wins,
especially when they are, you know, in America and trying
to tell that the rugby story and the All Black story.
Speaker 2 (13:20):
Elliott, thanks so much for your time. Appreciated. The All
Blacks will be announcing their team at six a m.
This morning. I'm feeling confident. I reckon we can keep
up appearances. I feel like we're on a bit of
a role. I think we've learned a lot from the
rugby championship, and I don't think that they will want
to kick off this tour with a with a lot
w They never want to lose, do they. I don't know.
(13:41):
I'm feeling good about it. The coverage will begin here
on Sunday morning at eight thirty a. M. Elliott is
going to be calling the game. We will be broadcasting
it live here on your storks Abit. I've kindly stepped
away from All Blacks from the Sunday session to allow
the All Blacks to be brought to you live, So
make sure you've joined Elliott on Sunday morning. It's two
four past.
Speaker 1 (14:00):
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Speaker 2 (14:09):
It's twenty six past five. Okay. So there is growing
frustration around messaging when it comes to the increase of
measle cases in New Zealand and the push for vaccinations.
As of yesterday, there were thirteen cases in the country.
So here's what I've learned about measles just over the
last couple of days. One infected person can infect up
to eighteen other people. The virus can linger in the
air for several hours, and it's far more infectious than
(14:31):
COVID nineteen. It's also a fairly vicious disease. One in
three children who catch it end up in hospital and
some will leave with severe brain damage. It's the kind
of information we're told, so we understand the seriousness of
measles and are encouraged to get the vaccine or get
up to date, and people are listening with the problem
is we have an age gap where there is no
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option for vaccination from four to twelve months old. It
is thought maternal antibodies protect a baby up to four
months of age. As many parents will know, the MMR
vaccine is given at twelve or fifteen months. We all
remember that, right, although if you're traveling overseas, a vaccination
can take place when a child is between four and
twelve months old. So this vaccine is called an MMR
(15:13):
zero dose because it only works for a limited time
and parents need to get their children vaccinated again with
two doses after twelve months. So you can see the
mixed and confusing messages here. Parents in Wellington, which looks
like to be the epicenter of cases, are rightly concerned
and want to do the right thing protecting their baby
and others. However, at this stage, the Public Health Service
(15:36):
advice to GPS is that the current cases or outbreak
is not at a level. Whether the advice would change
to recommending we should vaccinate children under twelve months old,
no one seems to be able to tell us at
what point this outbreak would reach a threshold where it
would Something tells me though, that the trigger point will
be met soon and official advice will change. But in
(15:57):
the meantime, if it's safe, and the risks and benefits
are clearly explained to a parent, and they want to
vaccinate their baby, just let them do it. I expect
I suspect to futter order is concerned that giving a
vaccine before twelve months the parents will not return for
the too late vaccines needed to provide lifelong immunity. I
(16:19):
suggest that the parents concerned enough to get early vaccinations
are the type of parents who will absolutely return and
finish the job. The irony is that the big issue
is not immunizing babies from four to twelve months. It's
about raising our general immunization levels, which are terrible. They're
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the lowest they have been since twenty and twelve. We
have been so good at protecting ourselves and our young
people against measles in the past. For goodness sake, we
eliminated measles in two thy and seventeen. So on Monday
we're heading into Measles Immunization Week and really it couldn't
come sooner, right? We need clear, detailed and helpful information
(17:05):
rather than mixed messages.
Speaker 3 (17:08):
News talks head be so look.
Speaker 2 (17:11):
Keen to hear your thoughts. You might be based in Wellington.
You might be you're hearing all this information. You want
to do the right thing. You're really concerned, especially about
your baby. And look, if you've got a baby in
daycare and things you might you know, I could understand
how you would be especially concerned about this. Do you
think that the Ministry of Health is doing enough here?
We are going to talk to Simeon Brown before six
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about whether we are doing enough to curb this outbreak?
Yours News Talks head beat back shortly you said my
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Speaker 1 (17:50):
The news you need this morning and the in depth
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Speaker 7 (18:01):
That'd be something Stange's pull you going car, I'll die.
Speaker 3 (18:10):
It's something weird and don't bilber.
Speaker 2 (18:17):
This is early edition on new Talks. I'm Francesca Roken
filling in for Ryan. Thanks for being with us in
use Today it is Halloween or Lolly Day. The door
knockers are coming. Do you know what the best thing
about Halloween these days is the rules of engagement of
trickle treating have become a little clearer here in New Zealand.
It's not compulsory. It's an opt in system, which I
(18:38):
hugely appreciate. If you want to participate and welcome the
sugar babes, you can just place something Halloween outside and
everyone comes floating to the door. But if you don't,
just don't put anything out, indicate you're not taking part,
and everyone just walk by and you can just pull
the curtains and get on with your evening and you
don't have to worry about it at all. So I
love that. Hey, in the next half out, we're heading
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to the UK and Europe, and as I've talked about,
and we've got a problem with measles and it's only
going to grow because our immunization rates are so bad.
So how worried should we be and is Health New
Zealand doing enough so the Health Minister Simeon Brown is
with us just before six. Thank you very much for
your feedback, A bit of feedback on Andrew baby Francesca.
This is a very bad look for the PM's office.
The PM said he would have sacked him if he
(19:19):
hadn't resigned, so he wanted him out. Did the PM
know that no complaint had been made? Well, we're just
going to have to wait and see. I think this
is one of these situations where you'd say HI has
not followed to the processes correctly and we'll just leave
it at that, because I think there will be more.
We will hear more about this as at Unfold zodiours
techs say you're a health professional. Al radio host didn't
know you were a health professional now not claiming to
(19:40):
be a health professional. But I am a mum and
I can't understand why people are listening very carefully to
the information they've been given and the warnings they're being given,
and then are wondering why they don't have are aren't
able to access a service which is available to them
to protect their baby. So that's what we've been talking
about and As I said, we'll follow a little bit
more on just before six, so keep the feedback coming.
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You can text on ninety two ninety two it is
twenty one to.
Speaker 3 (20:07):
Six news Talk seby right.
Speaker 2 (20:10):
Let's head around the country now and joining me from Dunedin,
Rosy Leishman, Good morning, Rosie, Good morning. A plea for
farmers and landowners in storm hit areas to plan before
burning debris.
Speaker 11 (20:21):
Yes, so fire and emergencies asking people to make sure
that they're burn piles are at least thirty meters away
from buildings or trees and to let the material dry
out first. The warning comes as Southland and Cloth remain
under a state of emergency. Otago District Commander Craig Gettis
says there's been no fire incidences so far, but CRUs
(20:44):
are concerned they could happen. He says water supplies are
well below normal levels, so their ability to support any
firefighting is challenged. Gettus sees local fire brigades are really
stretched with the cleanup and the focus is on avoiding
unnecessary call outs.
Speaker 2 (21:00):
The weather in Dneedon today, Rosie.
Speaker 11 (21:02):
Possibly heavy showers clearing in the morning but remaining mostly
cloudy until evening. With some strong southwesterlies in the afternoon
and a high of fourteen degrees.
Speaker 2 (21:12):
Thank you so much. And Claire joins us now from
christ to clear what is going on with this Metro
Sports Center. What is going on with it? Francesca.
Speaker 12 (21:20):
Look, this is the part of Cure Metro Sports Center
which is meant to open any time now, due to
host the Special Olympics in December. The trouble is we've
been told for months now that handover would be in October.
That has not happened, and we've had confirmation of that.
This is our five hundred million dollar project. It's faced
repeated delays since its original opening, which was due to
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be in twenty twenty one. That was following a legal
dispute between the contractor and government agency. The cost has
blown out. It's almost doubled over time. The Crown Infrastructure
Delivery Organization says main construction work is complete, but practical
completion has to be certified before it can be transferred
into the council. Council though has already begun its fit
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out and some early commissioning work. It has eleven pools
and spars, hydrocides and sports courts.
Speaker 2 (22:08):
All sounds fun.
Speaker 12 (22:09):
In the weather today, clear cloud increasing, there could be
some brief morning showers. Northwesterly is changing southerly and the
high will be seventeen.
Speaker 2 (22:16):
Thank you so much, Max. Tollers and Wellington and a
bad tax as possible for Wellington.
Speaker 13 (22:21):
Max, Yeah, good morning. The new mayor, the new council.
They were all sworn in last night in a ceremony.
We spoke to Andrew Little, the new mayor, who has
been already plotting some major changes. One might be a
bed tax. He wants to team up with Wayne Brown,
apparently to help lobby the idea to central government. There's
also a new committee to run the rule over finances.
The Golden Mile is being reviewed. That's the rather controversial
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plan to pedestrianize much of the central city, starting with
Courtney Place. And regarding transport, he says he's totally on
board with the government's plan for new tunnels Mount Victoria
and the Terrace, and a new lane of State Highway
one as well down Vivian Street. Little says amalgamy seems inevitable. Firstly,
though the council itself, he believes it needs something of
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a restructure to bring down costs. And there may be
some job losses that come along with that. He's got
his right hand man by his side, Ben McNulty, he's
his deputy mayor. Both are labor members. The first full
council meeting in three weeks.
Speaker 2 (23:18):
Okay, Wellington's weather sdomex.
Speaker 13 (23:20):
Mainly fine, might get a bit of rain mid afternoon
nineteen today's high.
Speaker 2 (23:24):
Thank you so much, have a good day, and neither
ritty man who was in the studio this morning. Do
you go trickle treating? Trickle treating tonight? You love a
dress up?
Speaker 14 (23:33):
Look, I do, and some of the ones here in
the news are of their drey start. Well, someone's got
it like a leamp shade and I said, what is that?
And she's a pumpkin head. It's a bright orange.
Speaker 2 (23:42):
Did you know?
Speaker 15 (23:42):
Genially, what do you do your kids do it? Because
some do, some don't. Do you think it's too commercial
at primaries?
Speaker 3 (23:53):
Yes?
Speaker 2 (23:54):
I hate it. I hate that the commercial. I hate this.
That's kind of like the stone last nasty grab for lollies.
And then you have to go been money on a costume.
You don't just get the kids to make a costume.
Very commercially American. But I've got over that. Neither do you,
because I was the brunch and I'm over it. It's fun,
it's well because my kids are too old now they are.
Speaker 14 (24:13):
But do you have a bowl of chocks at the
front door? Will you have that tonight?
Speaker 2 (24:17):
No, because I'm actually working late to night my partners
at work. And I'll tell you what. My sixteen year
old daughter is an opening the door to anyone. She
will no, but she won't get off her bum and go.
And no, sorry, everybody, we will not be putting you.
We won't be putting anything.
Speaker 15 (24:32):
You've got a hardcore you used to me?
Speaker 2 (24:33):
No, no, no, I'm over it. I used to be
the hot I used to be the Halloween ground.
Speaker 3 (24:37):
Over it.
Speaker 2 (24:38):
It is fun and I love it, especially love kids
who make a real effort to create their costumes. And yes,
you're not alive.
Speaker 14 (24:44):
Yeah you're scary.
Speaker 2 (24:45):
You don't like to know. Well, actually I did almost
kill a couple of kids when I decided to get
into it because I opened the door. You're in a
really scary mask. And we have these full on front
doorsteps and they all stick backwards and almost toppled down
and died. So that's another tip to urance. Don't dress
up as something really scary when you open the door,
because you're just earfuy.
Speaker 14 (25:04):
What I was going to say, do you really have
to dress up because you're pretty scary?
Speaker 15 (25:07):
Thank you very much, Neva, what are you about either you?
Speaker 2 (25:12):
Let's talk about the weather, okay.
Speaker 14 (25:13):
Mainly fine, it's a good day tonight to trigger treat
morning cloud.
Speaker 2 (25:18):
Today's high eighteen and can I.
Speaker 14 (25:19):
Just say steer clear of Francisca's house. Thank goodness, we
don't know where you live, girl, Thank.
Speaker 10 (25:25):
You so much.
Speaker 2 (25:25):
And Neva's really keen to you to pop into hers
tonight as well. Oh no, look it is fun you
You kind of just got to get on board, don't you. Anyway.
Next off, we are up off to Europe and the UK.
It is fifteen to.
Speaker 1 (25:37):
Six International correspondence with Ends and Eye Insurance Peace of
mind for New Zealand business.
Speaker 2 (25:45):
Vincent Macadani is with us from the UK and Europe.
Good morning, Vincent, good morning. Tell us what has been
going on with the Dutch elections?
Speaker 16 (25:54):
Well, a big upset in these Dutch elections. The grain
in Europe has been that political parties to the right
have been doing well in recent years, but there's been
a surprise campaign by a centrist liberal party Dutch sixty six,
who've gone from fifth place all the way to first place,
jointly now with Hurt Fielders, who is the sort of
(26:16):
far right leader that was leading a government's coalition government
there not as prime minister, but that all collapsed back
in this summer and now it's all being put down
to one man, Rob Jetton. He would be Europe's youngest
leader and he thirty eight. He's openly gay, and he
went from being called Robot Jettin to someone who took
(26:39):
the campaign by a storm by taking on a bit
of positive messaging, a bit of the Obama playbook of
yes we can, trying to combat the kind of very
negative attitude that a lot of people have got at
the moment in politics.
Speaker 2 (26:50):
Vincent, we're still awaiting a settlement in the negotiations between
the King and his brother Prince Andrew. The thing that
Prince Andrew was able to negotiate I find quite amazing.
Speaker 16 (26:59):
Well, the problem with this all is is that if
they sort of just kick him out without a plan,
he becomes a desperate man and he could become more
dangerous than a liability, would he in the need to
get some money behind him, to get somewhere to stay.
Would he suddenly write a tell all book or go
on a reality show or do a documentary they've seen
you know how damaging that can be with the likes
(27:20):
of Harry and Meghan. Although you know, the axations against
him are incredibly serious, all of which he's denied. But
it seems he's trying to negotiate with his brother to
get Harry and Meghan's old property, Frogmore Cottage. But the
real sticking point seems to be he wants a separate
property for his ex wife, Sarah Ferguson. They divorced all
the way back in nineteen ninety six. She's lived with him,
(27:41):
though in somewhat because of desperation because she's mismanaged their
finances so badly since two thousand and eight, but apparently
there's been a frosting of their relationship. But he wants
her to be provided a home, given that she is
the daughter of the mother of two princesses. So this
has been rumbling on all week. We're expecting men in
the next forty eight hours who might get some kind
(28:02):
of deal. But behind it all, we believe that Prince
William is very unhappy with the situation as it stands
and doesn't really want his uncle attending any kind of
public events. He just wants them gone.
Speaker 2 (28:13):
Slightly understandable there, Vincent, thank you so much. It is
ten to six simb okay. So the latest outbreak of
measles could pose a risk as it spreads undetected. There
were two more cases confirmed yesterday, bringing the toll the
total to thirteen. Alongside that, there are over two thousand
close contacts who've already been identified. Simeon Brown is the
(28:34):
Health Minister and he's with me now. Thank you so
much for your time this morning, minister, Good morning.
Speaker 3 (28:38):
Good morning.
Speaker 2 (28:39):
How much does this worry you?
Speaker 17 (28:41):
Look, I think this is very concerning. We have a
significant amount of effort being put in by the National
Public Health Service to step it out. There's a lot
of work being done to contact trace every case. But
the real key message is that vaccination is our best
Britie against further spread of measles, and to encourage everyone
(29:04):
to check their records and get immunized if you're not already.
Speaker 2 (29:08):
We have this immunity gap of the four to twelve
month year olds. The moms are hearing this. They want
to do the right thing, They want to immunize their children,
and we obviously have cases spreading in the community. Should
we be allowing these parents to use the zero dose?
Speaker 17 (29:23):
Yeah, so that's a question which I've raised with the
National Public Health Service. It's something which they have said
they are keeping watching brief on in terms of the analysis. Ultimately,
the advice, or the early advice I've received is that
that is an option which will be considered. But there's
(29:47):
also a potential downside in that as children are immunized
earlier than one year, then potentially their longer term immunity
isn't as good or effectively effectiveness, or the vaccine isn't
as good over the longer term. So there are some
things that they need to be considered. But that's certainly
the conversation that we've had at this stage. Look, I've
(30:07):
got a two month old myself, so I fully appreciate
the concerns of parents and understand exactly how they're feeling.
Speaker 2 (30:17):
I have a feeling that the parents who are interested
in getting their child that's between four months and twelve
months are going to be the parents who will come
back and do the further two immunizations. You know what
I mean?
Speaker 17 (30:27):
No, look, absolutely one hundred percent agree, and so that
is a piece of work which the National Public Health
Service will do. But ultimately this stage very much focused
on stamping this outbreak out and making sure that we
get on top of it.
Speaker 2 (30:46):
In twenty nineteen, we had seven hundred people hospitalized when
we had the measles outbreak. Are we prepared for that
all potentially more?
Speaker 17 (30:54):
Look, I think there is a plan in place. Ultimately,
we want to avoid what happened back into twenty nineteen,
and that's why we are very focused to stamp it out.
Our hospitals are always under significant pressure regardless of this
of this outbreak, so ultimately that will put additional pressure
(31:14):
on our hospitals. But that's why the key message is
to check your immunization status, get immunized and you know,
and the work that the National Public Health Service is
doing to contact, trace every case to get on top
of this as quickly as possible is critical work and
we're very pressurive of the work that they're doing.
Speaker 2 (31:35):
We've see plankets just open twenty vaccine sites around the country,
which is great. Is there going to be a more
general roll out from Health New Zealand.
Speaker 17 (31:42):
Yes, look, there's there are a lot of vaccination opportunities
and Health New Zealand is shortly going to be running
a National Immunization Week to promote immunization and immunization promotion
campaign is already underway and we've asked OCCON Zealand to
step that up. But there is plenty of opportunities for
(32:04):
people to be vaccinated and the purpose of running that
Immunization Week will be to focus on all of those
opportunities and to raise awareness with the public of what
those opportunities are. So what Plunket's doing is excellently. Pharmacies
are always open, have a huge opportunity through pharmacies, your
(32:24):
general practitioner. There are many opportunities for people to be
vaccinated and what we want to do is to highlight
all of those opportunities so people know how easy it
is that they can get themselves and their loved ones vaccinated.
Speaker 2 (32:39):
Thanks so much for your time this morning, Simon really
appreciated that was a health minister. Same and Brown, can
you get your thoughts Do you feel a little bit
more reassured there that everyone's across everything and aware of
what's going on and the next steps and what's been considered.
Ninety two to ninety two is the text. It is
six to six. Mike co Hosking is in the studio
with me.
Speaker 1 (32:56):
Next the first word on the News of the Day
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More than one news talk said.
Speaker 2 (33:09):
Be my costing is in the studio with me. Now,
of course my costing breakfast kicking off at six am
looking very dapic. Can I say? I love the pink
jacket strip. It's sort of slightly metallochy.
Speaker 18 (33:19):
I'm glad you raised this because I was wearing this
morning because my wife has spent up a tremendous amount
of feedback this week on my wife's Instagram right where
she makes fun of me, and I don't see this
that I just get feedback because she's making fun of me. Anyway,
the thing today I.
Speaker 3 (33:34):
Was going to wear this with it that hard to believe. Mate,
with a lovely new white T shirt.
Speaker 2 (33:38):
I quite love black.
Speaker 3 (33:40):
But the problem that's not black.
Speaker 18 (33:42):
Oh my god, it's not blue. It's really early anyway,
pointers my new white T shirt showed my nipples. Oh,
and she said to me last night before we went
to bed, she said, I don't want to see your nipples,
and so I thought, ah, here we go. So two
thirty this morning, I'm sticking on the white, like, oh
my god, nipples. And I just knew if I wore this,
(34:04):
she got nipples, and I thought she'd make more fun
of me.
Speaker 2 (34:07):
I know that I would be far too polite.
Speaker 10 (34:09):
He had to bring up the.
Speaker 18 (34:10):
Nipples changed it. But very nice of you to say something.
Speaker 2 (34:13):
And very much looking forward to the show. Mike Husk
shortly Take.
Speaker 1 (34:16):
Care for more from early edition with Ryan Bridge. Listen
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They'd be good morning, welcome to early edition. I'm Francisco
Budkinfiling and for Ryan, You're most welcome to contact me
anytime this morning. You can flict me a text on
ninety two ninety two or you can email me at
Francesca at Newstalk ZBF co dot MZ right coming up
on the show, how serious is President Trump when it
comes to resuming nuclear testing for the first time in
more than thirty years? Can the All Blacks defeat Island
(00:34):
in Chicago? On Sunday? And before the end of the hour,
Minister of howth Samim Brown is with us on the
measles outbreak.
Speaker 3 (00:42):
The agenda.
Speaker 2 (00:44):
It's Friday, the thirty first of October, and the match
hyped Donald Trump President She meeting appears to have got results.
Trump has agreed to reduce tarrifs on China by ten
percent in exchange for China cracking down on its flow
of fentanel. China will resume importing American sweepings as well,
and rare earth export limits have been paused. Trump is happy,
but it.
Speaker 4 (01:04):
Was so amazing, meaning he's a great letterer, great leader
of a very powerful, very strong country, China. What can
I say?
Speaker 1 (01:14):
It was an outstanding.
Speaker 4 (01:17):
A group of decisions. I think that was made a
lot of decisions remained too. I said, you're much left
out there.
Speaker 2 (01:24):
Jamaica is now in rebuild mode after the devastation of
Hurricane Melissa. It's left at least thirty two dead throughout
the Caribbean, but the State Minister is feeling positive.
Speaker 5 (01:34):
It would have been worse because capitalisty the Kingston, which
is the center of mobilization efforts, pardinage relief and disaster fearedness,
has been generally I would sit unscared or not badly
affected by the hurricane.
Speaker 2 (01:50):
There's been another five arrests in the Louver heist saga.
They were detained overnight during coordinated raids, but say there's
still no indication Love staff had anything to do with it.
Speaker 6 (02:00):
They've interviewed a lot of people inside the Louver staff
members and yesterday the prosecutor said that at this stage
they did not suspect that this was an inside job,
but she did suggest that there were very likely other
members involved, that this wasn't just a four man gang,
that this could have been part of a much bigger
criminal network.
Speaker 2 (02:20):
And back on the UIs government shutdown watch, which has
been dragging on since the beginning of October, the Republicans
are still squarely blaming the Democrats.
Speaker 7 (02:29):
The Democrat Party is now controlled, as I said, by
the Marxist activists, dark money donors. This is not a
grassroots effort and anti American ideologies is dominating this and
they would rather destroy the system than to lose power.
Speaker 1 (02:46):
Get ahead of the headlines on early edition with Francesca
Rudkin and are the Supercenter the explore are these accessories
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Speaker 2 (02:56):
It'd be It is nine past five, okay, So Andrew
Bailey story is back to cause the National Party some
more headaches. You may remember he resigned his ministerial portfolios
in February after he faced allegations he put a hand
on a staffer's arm during what was called an animated
discussion that came after the weird incident at a winery
(03:17):
where he called a worker a loser and he put
the l on his forehead and things. But now the
story has got a bit murky. Even more murky. Bailey
was on with Heather last night saying he regrets resigning
as it's been revealed there was no formal complaint about
the February allegations or formal investigation by the DIA. He
told Heather he was led to believe the country and
(03:39):
has even confirmed that with a staff involved.
Speaker 8 (03:43):
When I rang the person, the male who I put
my hand on in an encouraging way, he told me
when I rang him that he had not made the allegation.
Speaker 2 (03:54):
He also talked about the fact that he is full
of regret.
Speaker 8 (03:57):
In a rightly wrong vie. I shouldn't have offered that resonation.
If I'd known what I know now, I wouldn't.
Speaker 3 (04:02):
Have offered it.
Speaker 2 (04:03):
So what does he want now?
Speaker 8 (04:07):
I would obviously love to be administer a game, and
now that other informations come to light, I just want
people to know what the real situation is.
Speaker 2 (04:15):
Right, So the Prime Minister has been asked about it overnight.
Speaker 6 (04:19):
I trust DIA and the bottom line is that I
had information at the time. Information Today I look at
it and I go, Yep, he made the right decision.
Speaker 3 (04:26):
It was his choice to resign.
Speaker 2 (04:29):
I'm not sure I trust the DIA. This is very murky.
The presumption now surely has to be someone else wanted
him gone, and the way they went about it, it's
not a good look. Bailey's always been a little bit quirky,
hasn't he? And the information that we got around that
February incident never quite made sense. I always felt that actually,
(04:52):
this was just another thing he kind of got wrong.
And he was at the point going, actually, maybe politics
isn't for me, Parliament isn't where I need to be.
I got the feeling he was fed up a voice
sort of being in the limelight about all these little incidents,
and he just went, I'm out of here. But obviously
that was not the case, and it has all been
handled very poorly, and Bailey is right and trying to
clear his name and correct the facts. But I still
(05:16):
wonder who resigns without really understanding why they're resigning, without
getting all the facts. Wouldn't you ask the information on
the formal complaints so you can respond or get legal advice?
He spoke as he said to the person he presumed
made the formal complaint just before resigning and they confirmed
that they've not made a formal complaint. Surely that's a
little red flag just to pause. So it just remains
(05:38):
a little bit baffling. And for someone who resigned so
that they didn't cause a distraction for the Prime Minister
in the National Party, he surely has created a very
interesting distraction.
Speaker 3 (05:52):
News Talk said Bee, so cay.
Speaker 2 (05:54):
To hear your thoughts on this one. You're most welcome
to text me throughout the morning. Ninety two ninety two.
To be honest with you, I'm not sure that even
if he got off at his job back that he
would take their job, and that's probably the place for
him to be. I feel like maybe time has done there,
but absolutely these things need to be done. Any One
in HJR Will tell you there are processes to go
through and you've got to do these things correctly. And
(06:14):
it really does start to sound like somebody wanted him
out the door and they got him out the door,
and that is coming back to bite them in that
you know where it is twelve past five. You with
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At b It's fourteen past five. Donald Trump is playing
the nuke card. The US president has ordered his Department
of Defense slash Water immediately begin nuclear weapons testing, something
that the US hasn't done since the nineties. Foreign policy
analyst Jeffrey Millet is with me now. Good morning, Jeffrey,
Good morning, Francesca. He said, this is a warning shot
to his enemies. Who are we talking about here, China, Russia.
Speaker 9 (07:02):
Or both of them? I think, Francesca, and you know,
you can say, well, this is the typical saber rattling
of the Trump presidency, and this is the world that
we live in. But I think we need to be
aware here of the power of a nuclear conflict. I
think we've largely forgotten or underappreciated the nuclear dimension in
these constant geopolitical tensions. But you've got to remember that
(07:25):
the US and Russia both still have over five thousand
nuclear warheads. Out's well down from the peaks of the
Cold War. But if we suddenly see them back nuclear testing,
that would be the first time since the mid nineteen
nineties that we've seen China, Russia, in the United States
testing nuclear weapons, and that could be well on the cards.
So I think we really need to dial back the
(07:45):
tensions here because this is more than just a typical
Trump outburst on social media. I mean, nuclear weapons can
have real consequences and we certainly have seen that in history.
Speaker 2 (07:56):
So you think that there is a possibility he will
actually begin nuclear tests again.
Speaker 9 (08:01):
Yes, the escalation is in play, isn't it. And we've
seen this in so many dimensions now over the past
few years. I mean, the world is a much scarier
place now than it was, and we've seen the nuclear
dimension come into play in the war in Ukraine, for example,
that the zuparasion. Nuclear partners come under attack numerous times
(08:22):
in the war between Russia, Russia and Ukraine. We saw
that war between India and Pakistan earlier in the year.
Two nuclear powers. They conducted a nuclear test back in
nineteen ninety eight, but since then it's only been North
Korea that has tested nuclear weapons. We've got a comprehensive
nuclear test ban treaty that was agreed in the mid nineties,
(08:42):
but China, Russia, and the United States have not ratified that.
Speaker 3 (08:46):
Well.
Speaker 9 (08:47):
Russia did ratify it and then pulled out a couple
of years ago. The United States and China have never
ratified that treaty. So we need to, I think, step
back from the brink here. And that's the game that
Donald Trump is playing constantly, This game of brinksmanship. When
you go right to the brink of war, then you
pull back in clear victory. It is, I think, a
(09:08):
scary way to do politics, a scary way to do geopolitics.
It is Trump's game. We've seen that very successful meeting
over between Donald Trump and Jjingking. It has come out
with a deal. I mean that's a good news story.
But you wonder what will come next week or next
month with Donald Trump. I mean, nothing is really ever
set in stone, and you never know how long it's
(09:28):
going to be before he changes his mind.
Speaker 2 (09:30):
Jeffrey Miller, thank you so much. Always appreciate your thoughts.
Of course, the question is where would he teaest? I mean,
the Nimbi's will be out in force over this one, right,
I mean, no one's going to do it in your backyard.
Next we are going to head too Chicago. It is
eighteen past five.
Speaker 1 (09:46):
Franchessca Rudkin on early edition with r VS Supercenter, Explore,
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It'd be okay. So the All Blacks Grand Slam Tour
gets underway this weekend with arguably the toughest test. They'll
be back at Chicago's Soldier Field on Sunday morning, taking
on Ireland. Of course, we all remember the last time
these two met in Chicago twenty sixteen. We're famously Island
recorded its first win over the All Blacks. Our voice
of Rugby, Elliott Smith, is in Chicago and he joins me, Now,
(10:15):
good morning.
Speaker 10 (10:17):
Hi, Francesca.
Speaker 2 (10:17):
What's the vibe like? Is everyone amped and looking forward
to a game of rugby?
Speaker 10 (10:22):
It's quite interesting. I mean it sold out and months
ago as well, sixty one thousand capacity for the game,
but barring a few lampost flags, you probably wouldn't know
it's on. And that's fine. Look it said. It's one
of those things in a big city that sometimes these
things don't break through, and it's a sport that isn't
one that is widely popular in the masses. And you know,
(10:45):
I think Chicago's probably more focused on the Chicago Bullside,
which have started four an Oer to start the NBA season.
Then there's teest for having said that you don't sell
sixty thousand by accident. And there'll be you know, plenty
of fans and you know a lot of Irish people
in Chicago and a lot of ex that's coming through
from both nations and those also coming from the countries
flying in for the game. So promises to be a
(11:06):
special occasion, even if it's not tearing the headlines off
the front pages of the paper.
Speaker 2 (11:10):
At the moment, considering the All Blacks Rugby Championship, are
you confident that they can take Ireland?
Speaker 10 (11:16):
Look, I think they can take Ireland. Island coming in cold.
They haven't played as a group since the Six Nations.
Andy Farrell, their head coach, wasn't head coach on that occasion.
He took a break to focus on his Lions duty.
So it's been a while. In fact, last year's end
of year tour withhe All Blacks had success over Ireland.
Since that they were all together as a proper group,
with all the management and all the players in the
(11:38):
right place. So they come in a little bit cold
to this test matcher. They've had a diet of urec.
They played each other in a derby a lot of
these players last weekend, so they've had a bit of
a hitout internally as well as my understanding, but they
come in a little bit cold. But the All Blacks,
you know, they're right in the middle of the season
or in the back end of their season. The Rugby
Championship fills you probably was not a great deal confidence.
(12:00):
They beat the Wallabies obviously to finish it off, but
that heavy loss to the spring Box and Tina losing
in Buenos Aires as well gives you the sense that,
you know, it's the old Forest Gump analogy, you know,
the All Backs. At the moment, you just don't know
what you're going to get. And it could be a
win this weekend, they could set themselves on to a
Grand Slam, or it could be a defeat to you know,
(12:23):
the Irish, and the Grand Slam's gone at the first hurdle.
So look, there's a lot of improvements needed by the
All Blacks and that starts this weekend.
Speaker 2 (12:29):
What would losing again in the US do to the
All Blacks brand because we are playing there purely for
commercial reasons for the advertisers.
Speaker 10 (12:36):
Yeah, I think they need to keep up appearances by winning,
and you know that's where they drive a lot of
their revenue is obviously their historical record, and the record
over the last few seasons hasn't been good enough. So
you've got to deliver on that. You've got to show
the sponsors that are backing us. That's got you know,
Gallagher is the naming rights sponsor on the back of
their shorts, but also for the fixture itself. You know,
(12:58):
they expect success, So it's you know, it's contingent on it.
And the more you lose, the less commercially lucrative you
are potentially to some of those overseas markets where you're
selling the success story of the All Black So I
think it's imperative that they do pick up these wins,
especially when they are, you know, in America and trying
to tell that the rugby story and the All Black story.
Speaker 2 (13:20):
Elliott, thanks so much for your time. Appreciated. The All
Blacks will be announcing their team at six a m.
This morning. I'm feeling confident. I reckon we can keep
up appearances. I feel like we're on a bit of
a role. I think we've learned a lot from the
rugby championship, and I don't think that they will want
to kick off this tour with a with a lot
w They never want to lose, do they. I don't know.
(13:41):
I'm feeling good about it. The coverage will begin here
on Sunday morning at eight thirty a. M. Elliott is
going to be calling the game. We will be broadcasting
it live here on your storks Abit. I've kindly stepped
away from All Blacks from the Sunday session to allow
the All Blacks to be brought to you live, So
make sure you've joined Elliott on Sunday morning. It's two
four past.
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It's twenty six past five. Okay. So there is growing
frustration around messaging when it comes to the increase of
measle cases in New Zealand and the push for vaccinations.
As of yesterday, there were thirteen cases in the country.
So here's what I've learned about measles just over the
last couple of days. One infected person can infect up
to eighteen other people. The virus can linger in the
air for several hours, and it's far more infectious than
(14:31):
COVID nineteen. It's also a fairly vicious disease. One in
three children who catch it end up in hospital and
some will leave with severe brain damage. It's the kind
of information we're told, so we understand the seriousness of
measles and are encouraged to get the vaccine or get
up to date, and people are listening with the problem
is we have an age gap where there is no
(14:52):
option for vaccination from four to twelve months old. It
is thought maternal antibodies protect a baby up to four
months of age. As many parents will know, the MMR
vaccine is given at twelve or fifteen months. We all
remember that, right, although if you're traveling overseas, a vaccination
can take place when a child is between four and
twelve months old. So this vaccine is called an MMR
(15:13):
zero dose because it only works for a limited time
and parents need to get their children vaccinated again with
two doses after twelve months. So you can see the
mixed and confusing messages here. Parents in Wellington, which looks
like to be the epicenter of cases, are rightly concerned
and want to do the right thing protecting their baby
and others. However, at this stage, the Public Health Service
(15:36):
advice to GPS is that the current cases or outbreak
is not at a level. Whether the advice would change
to recommending we should vaccinate children under twelve months old,
no one seems to be able to tell us at
what point this outbreak would reach a threshold where it
would Something tells me though, that the trigger point will
be met soon and official advice will change. But in
(15:57):
the meantime, if it's safe, and the risks and benefits
are clearly explained to a parent, and they want to
vaccinate their baby, just let them do it. I expect
I suspect to futter order is concerned that giving a
vaccine before twelve months the parents will not return for
the too late vaccines needed to provide lifelong immunity. I
(16:19):
suggest that the parents concerned enough to get early vaccinations
are the type of parents who will absolutely return and
finish the job. The irony is that the big issue
is not immunizing babies from four to twelve months. It's
about raising our general immunization levels, which are terrible. They're
(16:40):
the lowest they have been since twenty and twelve. We
have been so good at protecting ourselves and our young
people against measles in the past. For goodness sake, we
eliminated measles in two thy and seventeen. So on Monday
we're heading into Measles Immunization Week and really it couldn't
come sooner, right? We need clear, detailed and helpful information
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rather than mixed messages.
Speaker 3 (17:08):
News talks head be so look.
Speaker 2 (17:11):
Keen to hear your thoughts. You might be based in Wellington.
You might be you're hearing all this information. You want
to do the right thing. You're really concerned, especially about
your baby. And look, if you've got a baby in
daycare and things you might you know, I could understand
how you would be especially concerned about this. Do you
think that the Ministry of Health is doing enough here?
We are going to talk to Simeon Brown before six
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about whether we are doing enough to curb this outbreak?
Yours News Talks head beat back shortly you said my
heart from the fat of.
Speaker 1 (17:50):
The news you need this morning and the in depth
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Speaker 7 (18:01):
That'd be something Stange's pull you going car, I'll die.
Speaker 3 (18:10):
It's something weird and don't bilber.
Speaker 2 (18:17):
This is early edition on new Talks. I'm Francesca Roken
filling in for Ryan. Thanks for being with us in
use Today it is Halloween or Lolly Day. The door
knockers are coming. Do you know what the best thing
about Halloween these days is the rules of engagement of
trickle treating have become a little clearer here in New Zealand.
It's not compulsory. It's an opt in system, which I
(18:38):
hugely appreciate. If you want to participate and welcome the
sugar babes, you can just place something Halloween outside and
everyone comes floating to the door. But if you don't,
just don't put anything out, indicate you're not taking part,
and everyone just walk by and you can just pull
the curtains and get on with your evening and you
don't have to worry about it at all. So I
love that. Hey, in the next half out, we're heading
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to the UK and Europe, and as I've talked about,
and we've got a problem with measles and it's only
going to grow because our immunization rates are so bad.
So how worried should we be and is Health New
Zealand doing enough so the Health Minister Simeon Brown is
with us just before six. Thank you very much for
your feedback, A bit of feedback on Andrew baby Francesca.
This is a very bad look for the PM's office.
The PM said he would have sacked him if he
(19:19):
hadn't resigned, so he wanted him out. Did the PM
know that no complaint had been made? Well, we're just
going to have to wait and see. I think this
is one of these situations where you'd say HI has
not followed to the processes correctly and we'll just leave
it at that, because I think there will be more.
We will hear more about this as at Unfold zodiours
techs say you're a health professional. Al radio host didn't
know you were a health professional now not claiming to
(19:40):
be a health professional. But I am a mum and
I can't understand why people are listening very carefully to
the information they've been given and the warnings they're being given,
and then are wondering why they don't have are aren't
able to access a service which is available to them
to protect their baby. So that's what we've been talking
about and As I said, we'll follow a little bit
more on just before six, so keep the feedback coming.
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You can text on ninety two ninety two it is
twenty one to.
Speaker 3 (20:07):
Six news Talk seby right.
Speaker 2 (20:10):
Let's head around the country now and joining me from Dunedin,
Rosy Leishman, Good morning, Rosie, Good morning. A plea for
farmers and landowners in storm hit areas to plan before
burning debris.
Speaker 11 (20:21):
Yes, so fire and emergencies asking people to make sure
that they're burn piles are at least thirty meters away
from buildings or trees and to let the material dry
out first. The warning comes as Southland and Cloth remain
under a state of emergency. Otago District Commander Craig Gettis
says there's been no fire incidences so far, but CRUs
(20:44):
are concerned they could happen. He says water supplies are
well below normal levels, so their ability to support any
firefighting is challenged. Gettus sees local fire brigades are really
stretched with the cleanup and the focus is on avoiding
unnecessary call outs.
Speaker 2 (21:00):
The weather in Dneedon today, Rosie.
Speaker 11 (21:02):
Possibly heavy showers clearing in the morning but remaining mostly
cloudy until evening. With some strong southwesterlies in the afternoon
and a high of fourteen degrees.
Speaker 2 (21:12):
Thank you so much. And Claire joins us now from
christ to clear what is going on with this Metro
Sports Center. What is going on with it? Francesca.
Speaker 12 (21:20):
Look, this is the part of Cure Metro Sports Center
which is meant to open any time now, due to
host the Special Olympics in December. The trouble is we've
been told for months now that handover would be in October.
That has not happened, and we've had confirmation of that.
This is our five hundred million dollar project. It's faced
repeated delays since its original opening, which was due to
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be in twenty twenty one. That was following a legal
dispute between the contractor and government agency. The cost has
blown out. It's almost doubled over time. The Crown Infrastructure
Delivery Organization says main construction work is complete, but practical
completion has to be certified before it can be transferred
into the council. Council though has already begun its fit
(22:02):
out and some early commissioning work. It has eleven pools
and spars, hydrocides and sports courts.
Speaker 2 (22:08):
All sounds fun.
Speaker 12 (22:09):
In the weather today, clear cloud increasing, there could be
some brief morning showers. Northwesterly is changing southerly and the
high will be seventeen.
Speaker 2 (22:16):
Thank you so much, Max. Tollers and Wellington and a
bad tax as possible for Wellington.
Speaker 13 (22:21):
Max, Yeah, good morning. The new mayor, the new council.
They were all sworn in last night in a ceremony.
We spoke to Andrew Little, the new mayor, who has
been already plotting some major changes. One might be a
bed tax. He wants to team up with Wayne Brown,
apparently to help lobby the idea to central government. There's
also a new committee to run the rule over finances.
The Golden Mile is being reviewed. That's the rather controversial
(22:44):
plan to pedestrianize much of the central city, starting with
Courtney Place. And regarding transport, he says he's totally on
board with the government's plan for new tunnels Mount Victoria
and the Terrace, and a new lane of State Highway
one as well down Vivian Street. Little says amalgamy seems inevitable. Firstly,
though the council itself, he believes it needs something of
(23:05):
a restructure to bring down costs. And there may be
some job losses that come along with that. He's got
his right hand man by his side, Ben McNulty, he's
his deputy mayor. Both are labor members. The first full
council meeting in three weeks.
Speaker 2 (23:18):
Okay, Wellington's weather sdomex.
Speaker 13 (23:20):
Mainly fine, might get a bit of rain mid afternoon
nineteen today's high.
Speaker 2 (23:24):
Thank you so much, have a good day, and neither
ritty man who was in the studio this morning. Do
you go trickle treating? Trickle treating tonight? You love a
dress up?
Speaker 14 (23:33):
Look, I do, and some of the ones here in
the news are of their drey start. Well, someone's got
it like a leamp shade and I said, what is that?
And she's a pumpkin head. It's a bright orange.
Speaker 2 (23:42):
Did you know?
Speaker 15 (23:42):
Genially, what do you do your kids do it? Because
some do, some don't. Do you think it's too commercial
at primaries?
Speaker 3 (23:53):
Yes?
Speaker 2 (23:54):
I hate it. I hate that the commercial. I hate this.
That's kind of like the stone last nasty grab for lollies.
And then you have to go been money on a costume.
You don't just get the kids to make a costume.
Very commercially American. But I've got over that. Neither do you,
because I was the brunch and I'm over it. It's fun,
it's well because my kids are too old now they are.
Speaker 14 (24:13):
But do you have a bowl of chocks at the
front door? Will you have that tonight?
Speaker 2 (24:17):
No, because I'm actually working late to night my partners
at work. And I'll tell you what. My sixteen year
old daughter is an opening the door to anyone. She
will no, but she won't get off her bum and go.
And no, sorry, everybody, we will not be putting you.
We won't be putting anything.
Speaker 15 (24:32):
You've got a hardcore you used to me?
Speaker 2 (24:33):
No, no, no, I'm over it. I used to be
the hot I used to be the Halloween ground.
Speaker 3 (24:37):
Over it.
Speaker 2 (24:38):
It is fun and I love it, especially love kids
who make a real effort to create their costumes. And yes,
you're not alive.
Speaker 14 (24:44):
Yeah you're scary.
Speaker 2 (24:45):
You don't like to know. Well, actually I did almost
kill a couple of kids when I decided to get
into it because I opened the door. You're in a
really scary mask. And we have these full on front
doorsteps and they all stick backwards and almost toppled down
and died. So that's another tip to urance. Don't dress
up as something really scary when you open the door,
because you're just earfuy.
Speaker 14 (25:04):
What I was going to say, do you really have
to dress up because you're pretty scary?
Speaker 15 (25:07):
Thank you very much, Neva, what are you about either you?
Speaker 2 (25:12):
Let's talk about the weather, okay.
Speaker 14 (25:13):
Mainly fine, it's a good day tonight to trigger treat
morning cloud.
Speaker 2 (25:18):
Today's high eighteen and can I.
Speaker 14 (25:19):
Just say steer clear of Francisca's house. Thank goodness, we
don't know where you live, girl, Thank.
Speaker 10 (25:25):
You so much.
Speaker 2 (25:25):
And Neva's really keen to you to pop into hers
tonight as well. Oh no, look it is fun you
You kind of just got to get on board, don't you. Anyway.
Next off, we are up off to Europe and the UK.
It is fifteen to.
Speaker 1 (25:37):
Six International correspondence with Ends and Eye Insurance Peace of
mind for New Zealand business.
Speaker 2 (25:45):
Vincent Macadani is with us from the UK and Europe.
Good morning, Vincent, good morning. Tell us what has been
going on with the Dutch elections?
Speaker 16 (25:54):
Well, a big upset in these Dutch elections. The grain
in Europe has been that political parties to the right
have been doing well in recent years, but there's been
a surprise campaign by a centrist liberal party Dutch sixty six,
who've gone from fifth place all the way to first place,
jointly now with Hurt Fielders, who is the sort of
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far right leader that was leading a government's coalition government
there not as prime minister, but that all collapsed back
in this summer and now it's all being put down
to one man, Rob Jetton. He would be Europe's youngest
leader and he thirty eight. He's openly gay, and he
went from being called Robot Jettin to someone who took
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the campaign by a storm by taking on a bit
of positive messaging, a bit of the Obama playbook of
yes we can, trying to combat the kind of very
negative attitude that a lot of people have got at
the moment in politics.
Speaker 2 (26:50):
Vincent, we're still awaiting a settlement in the negotiations between
the King and his brother Prince Andrew. The thing that
Prince Andrew was able to negotiate I find quite amazing.
Speaker 16 (26:59):
Well, the problem with this all is is that if
they sort of just kick him out without a plan,
he becomes a desperate man and he could become more
dangerous than a liability, would he in the need to
get some money behind him, to get somewhere to stay.
Would he suddenly write a tell all book or go
on a reality show or do a documentary they've seen
you know how damaging that can be with the likes
(27:20):
of Harry and Meghan. Although you know, the axations against
him are incredibly serious, all of which he's denied. But
it seems he's trying to negotiate with his brother to
get Harry and Meghan's old property, Frogmore Cottage. But the
real sticking point seems to be he wants a separate
property for his ex wife, Sarah Ferguson. They divorced all
the way back in nineteen ninety six. She's lived with him,
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though in somewhat because of desperation because she's mismanaged their
finances so badly since two thousand and eight, but apparently
there's been a frosting of their relationship. But he wants
her to be provided a home, given that she is
the daughter of the mother of two princesses. So this
has been rumbling on all week. We're expecting men in
the next forty eight hours who might get some kind
(28:02):
of deal. But behind it all, we believe that Prince
William is very unhappy with the situation as it stands
and doesn't really want his uncle attending any kind of
public events. He just wants them gone.
Speaker 2 (28:13):
Slightly understandable there, Vincent, thank you so much. It is
ten to six simb okay. So the latest outbreak of
measles could pose a risk as it spreads undetected. There
were two more cases confirmed yesterday, bringing the toll the
total to thirteen. Alongside that, there are over two thousand
close contacts who've already been identified. Simeon Brown is the
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Health Minister and he's with me now. Thank you so
much for your time this morning, minister, Good morning.
Speaker 3 (28:38):
Good morning.
Speaker 2 (28:39):
How much does this worry you?
Speaker 17 (28:41):
Look, I think this is very concerning. We have a
significant amount of effort being put in by the National
Public Health Service to step it out. There's a lot
of work being done to contact trace every case. But
the real key message is that vaccination is our best
Britie against further spread of measles, and to encourage everyone
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to check their records and get immunized if you're not already.
Speaker 2 (29:08):
We have this immunity gap of the four to twelve
month year olds. The moms are hearing this. They want
to do the right thing, They want to immunize their children,
and we obviously have cases spreading in the community. Should
we be allowing these parents to use the zero dose?
Speaker 17 (29:23):
Yeah, so that's a question which I've raised with the
National Public Health Service. It's something which they have said
they are keeping watching brief on in terms of the analysis. Ultimately,
the advice, or the early advice I've received is that
that is an option which will be considered. But there's
(29:47):
also a potential downside in that as children are immunized
earlier than one year, then potentially their longer term immunity
isn't as good or effectively effectiveness, or the vaccine isn't
as good over the longer term. So there are some
things that they need to be considered. But that's certainly
the conversation that we've had at this stage. Look, I've
(30:07):
got a two month old myself, so I fully appreciate
the concerns of parents and understand exactly how they're feeling.
Speaker 2 (30:17):
I have a feeling that the parents who are interested
in getting their child that's between four months and twelve
months are going to be the parents who will come
back and do the further two immunizations. You know what
I mean?
Speaker 17 (30:27):
No, look, absolutely one hundred percent agree, and so that
is a piece of work which the National Public Health
Service will do. But ultimately this stage very much focused
on stamping this outbreak out and making sure that we
get on top of it.
Speaker 2 (30:46):
In twenty nineteen, we had seven hundred people hospitalized when
we had the measles outbreak. Are we prepared for that
all potentially more?
Speaker 17 (30:54):
Look, I think there is a plan in place. Ultimately,
we want to avoid what happened back into twenty nineteen,
and that's why we are very focused to stamp it out.
Our hospitals are always under significant pressure regardless of this
of this outbreak, so ultimately that will put additional pressure
(31:14):
on our hospitals. But that's why the key message is
to check your immunization status, get immunized and you know,
and the work that the National Public Health Service is
doing to contact, trace every case to get on top
of this as quickly as possible is critical work and
we're very pressurive of the work that they're doing.
Speaker 2 (31:35):
We've see plankets just open twenty vaccine sites around the country,
which is great. Is there going to be a more
general roll out from Health New Zealand.
Speaker 17 (31:42):
Yes, look, there's there are a lot of vaccination opportunities
and Health New Zealand is shortly going to be running
a National Immunization Week to promote immunization and immunization promotion
campaign is already underway and we've asked OCCON Zealand to
step that up. But there is plenty of opportunities for
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people to be vaccinated and the purpose of running that
Immunization Week will be to focus on all of those
opportunities and to raise awareness with the public of what
those opportunities are. So what Plunket's doing is excellently. Pharmacies
are always open, have a huge opportunity through pharmacies, your
(32:24):
general practitioner. There are many opportunities for people to be
vaccinated and what we want to do is to highlight
all of those opportunities so people know how easy it
is that they can get themselves and their loved ones vaccinated.
Speaker 2 (32:39):
Thanks so much for your time this morning, Simon really
appreciated that was a health minister. Same and Brown, can
you get your thoughts Do you feel a little bit
more reassured there that everyone's across everything and aware of
what's going on and the next steps and what's been considered.
Ninety two to ninety two is the text. It is
six to six. Mike co Hosking is in the studio
with me.
Speaker 1 (32:56):
Next the first word on the News of the Day
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Speaker 3 (33:07):
More than one news talk said.
Speaker 2 (33:09):
Be my costing is in the studio with me. Now,
of course my costing breakfast kicking off at six am
looking very dapic. Can I say? I love the pink
jacket strip. It's sort of slightly metallochy.
Speaker 18 (33:19):
I'm glad you raised this because I was wearing this
morning because my wife has spent up a tremendous amount
of feedback this week on my wife's Instagram right where
she makes fun of me, and I don't see this
that I just get feedback because she's making fun of me. Anyway,
the thing today I.
Speaker 3 (33:34):
Was going to wear this with it that hard to believe. Mate,
with a lovely new white T shirt.
Speaker 2 (33:38):
I quite love black.
Speaker 3 (33:40):
But the problem that's not black.
Speaker 18 (33:42):
Oh my god, it's not blue. It's really early anyway,
pointers my new white T shirt showed my nipples. Oh,
and she said to me last night before we went
to bed, she said, I don't want to see your nipples,
and so I thought, ah, here we go. So two
thirty this morning, I'm sticking on the white, like, oh
my god, nipples. And I just knew if I wore this,
(34:04):
she got nipples, and I thought she'd make more fun
of me.
Speaker 2 (34:07):
I know that I would be far too polite.
Speaker 10 (34:09):
He had to bring up the.
Speaker 18 (34:10):
Nipples changed it. But very nice of you to say something.
Speaker 2 (34:13):
And very much looking forward to the show. Mike Husk
shortly Take.
Speaker 1 (34:16):
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