December 7, 2025 • 34 mins
On the Early Edition with Andrew Dickens Full Show Podcast Monday 8th of December 2025, Andrew Coster has made explosive claims in an interview with Q&A, lawyer and former cop Matthew Hague shares his thoughts.
Elliot Smith has the latest on the weekend's sport.
A new report from ASB shows clear signs of life for the economy in 2026, Infometrics Principal Economist Brad Olsen shares his thoughts.
Plus, UK/Europe Correspondent Gavin Grey has the latest on a man arrested on suspicion of assault after a number of people were sprayed with what is believed to be pepper spray at London’s Heathrow Airport and four people have been arrested after custard and apple crumble were flung at a display case containing part of the Crown Jewels in the Tower of London.
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
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Speaker 3 (00:13):
Welcome moarning to you and welcome to summer so today
on the program in the next hour. How green are
the green shoots in our economy? A new ASB forecast
is good reading and we'll get gred Olsen's core on
it in about five minutes time. Max Verstappen wins in
abud derby, but Lando Norris did enough for his maiden
World championship. Elliott Smith on the Weekend Sport in ten
(00:33):
minutes time. Meanwhile, Rugby should be very worried after the
A League derby on Saturday, and I'll tell you why.
Just after the six thirty news, and Andrew Costa throws
everyone under the bus. Was he right? Was that a
smart thing to do or not? We'll have that story
for you just before six we'll have correspondence from right
around New Zealand and Gavin Gray out of the UK
and you can have your say by using the text.
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The number is ninety two to ninety two. Small charge
does apply. It is seven minutes after five.
Speaker 1 (01:02):
The agenda.
Speaker 3 (01:04):
So it's Monday, the eighth of December and German Chancellor
Fredrik Nittz has met with Netanyahu in Israel and he's
pushing to get the Gaza cease fire into its second phase.
So Benjamin Netanyah, who says he's got some very important
conversations mind up at the end of the month, and
he says he's got a meeting with Trump in December.
Speaker 2 (01:22):
So now opportunities for peace are there, we tend to
exploit them. I'm going to discuss them with the President
Trump when I meet him later on this month, but
we discussed them as well, and we discussed, of course
how to bring an end to the Hamas rule in Gaza,
because that's an essential part of ensuring a different future
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for Gaza and a different future for us well.
Speaker 3 (01:47):
On Gaza. A bit later on in the program to
the Formula one and Abu Dhabi and Landa Norris has
won his first Formula one title by finishing third, and
it's fair to say his fans are stoked.
Speaker 4 (01:58):
Relieve you know, it was everything unbelieva.
Speaker 3 (02:03):
Yes, a max h step and won the Grand Prix,
but it wasn't enough Oscar Piastri came second. Liam Lawson
was eighteenth after starting thirteenth, and he was a lapdown
on the winners. And finally, Katy Perry and former Canadian
Prime Minister Justin Trudeau have gone Instagram official. The singer
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posted a string of photos and videos of their trip
together to Japan. In one picture, Katie and Justin are
seen smiling for a selfie with their faces touching. In
another video, the pair are seen trying sushi. You know what,
He kissed a girl and he liked it.
Speaker 1 (02:41):
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Said be so this morning, I walked in and the
newspapers out. In the paper's headline is a warning from
a credit agency that the government's rites as will make
it harder for the Orcan Council to balance us books.
Are you surprised, I'm not. And it won't just be
the Orcan Council, It'll be all councils. The rate caps.
They said it's to stop the dumb stuff, and others
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have said it's to stop the nice to haves. So
we can have more needs to haves, but you know what,
the nice to haves are the least of our problems.
It's the need to haves that's costing so much. It's
the water and the rubbish, and the roads and the
footpaths and the public transport that swallow the bulk of
your rates, and that is now going to be cut
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with the rates cap. So what it will mean for
all of us is an increase in the cost of living,
the very thing this government swore to get on top of,
because councils are going to be looking to find their
funds now elsewhere so they can do your water and
your rubbish and your roads. And you know what that
means When they're looking for funds helsewhere, that means queueser pays. Already,
(03:56):
organ councilors wanting to push residential parking permits up by
fifty bucks a year, expect more increases in costs. Brace
yourself for it. The charges will take the place of
your rates, and the charges could feed inflation. But it
looks good to the electorate. Seventy five percent of us
support rate caps because we all hate taxes, we all
(04:18):
hate rates, But do we really understand the implications. Once again,
the government's moves are going to have an unintended consequence
of making things more expensive, like the moves against payWave.
The government moved against payWave. They know that we don't
like the surcharge. But did they get rid of the searchcharge. No,
they just moved the costs onto the retailer, with the
(04:41):
consequence of higher prices. It's also reminiscent of the way
they've unilaterally increased employer's Kiwisaver contributions. Now that puts even
more pressure on small medium businesses and their cash flow.
And what does that mean higher prices. The government likes
to say they're cutting out tax but what's really happening
(05:02):
is the taxes are being disguised as user pays and
they're moving them ever closer to your bottom lines. And
you know, it's called user pays for a reason because you,
the user, will still have to pay.
Speaker 1 (05:15):
News Talk said B.
Speaker 3 (05:17):
But maybe we've got more money to pay these things
because the new ASB reports on our financial health is
out and says that twenty twenty six is when the
whim will turn. So what did they say and how
do we feel about it? We're going to talk to
brad Olsen in a few moments time from Inframetrics to
talk all about this, and later Elliot Smith on the
black Caps, Formula one orkand FC and oh my goodness,
(05:37):
the Ashes. There's a lot still to come. It's early edition.
It's News Talk, sabb.
Speaker 1 (05:42):
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Speaker 3 (05:53):
Said b it's time for some good news and the
time is fourteen minutes after five, so survive until twenty
five mins the mantra that we heard, but the ASP
has come out with a new report that says twenty
twenty six is when the worm will turn. They are
seeing clear signs of life. Consumers are spending again, big
ticket buyings back on the table, and interest rates of course,
(06:14):
as we all know, finally easing off. So brad Olsen
from Informetrics Joints were now goodby to your brand. Good morning,
So this sounds right to you.
Speaker 5 (06:22):
Yes, we have seen a number of indicators that have
started to shift around and are sort of setting up
a bit more of that growth as we head into
twenty twenty six. I mean, consumers spending did see a
good boost in the September quarter and has continued to
sort of show some signs, especially under the hood, that
there is a bit more willingness to spend by consumers.
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The fact that you know, your electronic sales, your car
numbers and similar have been improving. There's been a little
bit more activity in the housing market. Those are encouraging
because clearly kiwis are sort of doing something with their money.
And at the same time you stay and see job
prospects that are turning around slowly as well.
Speaker 6 (07:04):
And I think the point that Ape's made is that
you know.
Speaker 5 (07:07):
It's not that everything's absolutely immediately firing on all cylinders,
but the conditions are very much therefore greater economic activity
to happen next year.
Speaker 3 (07:16):
Why do you reckon it took so long? This is
your record. Why do you took reckon it took so
long for the economic recovery to take hold.
Speaker 5 (07:23):
Look, I think we were actually seeing a bit more
momentum at the start of this year. Again, it was
still pretty limited.
Speaker 6 (07:32):
But there was a little bit whereas the sort.
Speaker 5 (07:34):
Of middle of this year was impacted by just a
bit of a lot of uncertainty around the tariffs and
similar that I think just sort of put any of
those better improvements and just sort of put them down.
You know, businesses and households just weren't confident enough to
keep spending like they were before. And even at the moment,
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you're still seeing sort of patchy results. You know, there
was good spending activity through this September quarter.
Speaker 6 (08:00):
But Black Friday sales look like they've.
Speaker 5 (08:02):
Probably disappointed a touch compared to expectations. So again, it's
not necessarily that you've sort of got this wholehearted pace
across the entire economy. But over time, those lower interest
rates are doing what they need to to stimulate people
to spend. It's not worth saving as much anymore. It's
not worth you know, people who are having to put
their money into the mortgage to the same degree, and
(08:24):
so over time that money is becoming a locked plus
of course, and I think this is probably the big one.
You've now had a consistent enough period of good primary
sector returns that starting to show through in the economy
as well.
Speaker 3 (08:35):
Because I was reading our Siven Bridges last week in
one of those mood of the boardroom things that the
herald writes from time to time, and he wrote, and
it was his first sentence. He wrote that as he
gets older, he begins to realize just how important sentiment is.
And I wonder whether we were all guilty of actually
squashing our sentiment by our continual going on about just
how stuff the economy is after the last regime? Did
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we talk ourselves down?
Speaker 5 (09:00):
There is an element to that. I mean, you're right
that confidence is quite important, and that's why it's been
so interesting over the last year that you've had very,
very high business confidence which has probably been a little
bit too over the top, but you know, fairly subdued
consumer confidence, which has felt almost a little bit overly downbeat.
And I think that the truth is probably somewhere a
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bit more in the middle. You don't necessarily want the
economy that.
Speaker 6 (09:24):
Like you say, is talking it south down all the time.
Speaker 5 (09:26):
Equally, you can't, you know, look at the economy and
talk it up massively if there are fundamental challenges in there.
So I think that there's a little bit of truth
more through the middle. One big challenge for this year
for consumers has been the labor market. It's all fine
and well to think that you know your mortgage race
is going down and that will lead to better things.
But if you're worried about your job, and people have been,
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that's still a pretty big limitation that keeps people in
their shells. And you're starting to see a little bit
of movement there recently with a slight improvement and job adds,
so that's starting to change the dial on the labor market.
Speaker 3 (10:00):
Jobs, fun, good stuff. Brad, have yourself a great summer
and don't forget to go out there and spend some money.
Same with you, say with us all, Brad Olsen, and
for metrics principle. Now, of course, the big economic news
over the course of the week was that Ikea opened
in Auckland and people are saying, what's that impact going
to be and who's going to be impacted by it?
And I see that Kmart this is new analysis has
(10:21):
come out from Forsyth Bar. Kmart is doing pretty good.
Kmart is earning twice as much per square meter and
has gross margins eight percent higher than the warehouse, so
they're doing okay. The warehouse ain't doing so good. The
warehouse's full year result posted in September showed that the
company had a loss of two point eight million dollars.
(10:43):
Kmart's financial result for twenty twenty five was that they
made one hundred and two million dollars profit and total
sales over one billion dollars for the first time. So
this is good news for kmart, a bit of a
worrying news, piece of news for the warehouse. And meanwhile,
Ike has only just started, so watch this space. Max
Verstapping is not the world champion, but he did win
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the race. More on the F one, the cricket which
was extraordinary, and the football to come next with Elliot
Smith on News TALKSB twenty one.
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Speaker 3 (11:21):
Welton into the office just before fore as you do
and who's there? But Elliott, yes, that was very early.
Speaker 4 (11:28):
It was early. You wake up early, yeah, I.
Speaker 3 (11:31):
Know, but all Orders is never here that early. You
were here very early for the F one.
Speaker 4 (11:35):
I was here really because they wake up at half
past one and couldn't give it this week, so I
thought let's just get out of bed and get into
the day, and not because the IF one was on
there's a bit of other sport obviously on I thought,
let's get into the office and keep things off. And oh,
I don't know if it was a great Formula One finish.
I mean didn't have the fireworks that maybe we wanted.
It was a fairly straightforward race, even with Max for
Stapping winning the race, and but in the terms of
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the title scheme, he was never really a threat to
Lando Norris taken the whole thing up.
Speaker 3 (12:03):
But when you consider what was happening at the beginning
of the season, when it was a McLaren procession totally,
this season actually ended out quite exciting.
Speaker 4 (12:09):
Yeah, and I think the Stapping can take a lot.
I think he won more races than anyone else in
the season, But just on the points alone, I couldn't
quite get that they found something towards the back end
of the season. Didn't they read Bull with that car
with the stappin and next season. We don't want to
look too head too early because Landa Norris is only
one at what an hour or two ago, But you know,
you'd think that Red Bull are well placed next year
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if they can get their car right to go back
to her.
Speaker 3 (12:31):
Who knows they've all got new cars. Hopefully Liam gets
a new cast down and thirteenth ended out, Eighteenth went
back five places.
Speaker 4 (12:39):
Yeah, time penalty didn't help fourteenth for the season. Look,
he's got a drive confirmed next year. And that's the
main thing I think for Liam Lawson.
Speaker 3 (12:45):
And you're here because all of this of course goes
to test matches and so he would have had a
very difficult day over the course of the weekend because
that last day, I mean I watched it and it
was it was just like, come on, come on, but
you know, struck by injuries, we just couldn't knock them
off in the windy is huge score.
Speaker 4 (13:01):
You've got the sense though one away, didn't you that
the black Caps if they could they got those couple
and they got to six down. If they get one more,
that exposed the tailor a little bit, but they just
couldn't quite do it. And if you can rotate your
bowlers a little bit more, if you have a Nathan
Smith in there, you have obviously Matt Henry that the
spearhead of the pace attack, then you put a little
bit more pressure on the Western these they missed that.
Not only they missed Matt Henry, who was one of
(13:23):
the best pace ballers I think in the world, but
they missed the rotation of that and keeping them fresh, and.
Speaker 3 (13:29):
So now they've got the call up happening and all
sorts of kids are coming into.
Speaker 4 (13:31):
Them thirty years old race. Yeah, I would have liked
to see the West Indys have a bit more of
a crack for I understand why it didn't. The draw
was pretty good result for them. They're eighty runs shy,
you know the final session, why not.
Speaker 3 (13:43):
Have a crack?
Speaker 4 (13:44):
Yeah, one more then shut up. If there's another look
at you, then you shut up shop.
Speaker 3 (13:47):
Yeah yeah, true, true enough. But but you know, here's
the thing, We've got another test to come. I mean,
do we have the depth.
Speaker 4 (13:53):
No, I don't think so. I look at the little
I would like to see them go a bit more
youth with this elections. I think it's a question mark.
So with some of those players in the team batting
wise and also bowling wise, so this was probably the
series to do it. Now they've got injuries, they're still
bringing in in. You know, thirty year old Michael Rah.
I'm sure he's twirled and he's done well in domestic cricket,
(14:13):
but you can't tell me there's a young kid out
there that would be worth the opportunity.
Speaker 3 (14:17):
Good like you, Oh allders, Orders to play, Orders to play,
I'd loved him Trembling, five twenty four Costa interview, More
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News Talks, It Be. It's five twenty seven. Arm Andrew
Dickens runs here for the drivetime show. Hea, that's doing
the breakfast show. So what do you make of the
Andrew Costa interview on Q and A Yesterday? First question
is why did he do it?
Speaker 6 (14:45):
Well?
Speaker 3 (14:45):
Obviously he felt he'd been thrown under the bus by
Judith Collins, Mark Mitchell and Richard Chambers at that recent
press conference, so he was prepared to throw them under
the bus as well, So he did the interview. And
he does have a point when the IPCA report did
not mention corruption, but the politicians and the new police
Commissioner inferred it, so he had to protect his name,
and the protection of his name is the reason he
(15:06):
negotiated with the Public Service Commissioner in the delay in
resigning from his latest job. In frankly, I don't blame him,
and what did the Public Service commissioners say about him?
He told Mike last week that Andrew Costa always seemed
genuine in all his dealings with them. So the problem
is with the throwing under the bus is that Costa
has no proof of his claims and so now we
have a ridiculous he said, he said situation, and nobody
(15:30):
is able to provide concrete proof of what they said
or may not have said at the time. Now Costa
may have brief Mitchell and Hipkins of the situation, but
what does that mean? Which situation was he talking about?
How much detail did he do? Was he telling them, Oh, yeah,
Mick s Gibbons had an affair, it's gone a bit wrong.
Or did he tell him, oh, the police force has
been covering up one of them own. How much detail
(15:51):
of anything did he give them in these informal briefings.
Who knows because no one was keeping notes. And here's
the thing, The fascinating fact he mentioned in that interview
is that the police this is a three billion dollar
business which makes the job of police commissioner one of
the biggest CEO positions in our economy. And ask any
CEO whether they take notes of any conversation about their business,
(16:13):
and they'll tell you it's imperative. Loose lips ships. One
would have thought that taking notes after a conversation about
this sort of stuff is imperative for a commissioner, also
for any minister of the Crown as well. And I'm
looking at you, mister Hipkins and mister Mitchell. My whole
impression after the interview is that everyone was a bit loose.
(16:33):
It's a tawdry tale of bad judgment at the top
of our public service, both the public servants and of
course the politicians. And remember the buck always stops at
the top, and the politicians are at the top. It
also reminded me that the political battles at the top
levels of our public service are actually very vicious affairs,
and everyone plays a very hard game. And Richard Chambers
(16:55):
was in competition with a very competent police officer in
Mcskimming who had a hidden sex life and a preblection
for animals. But you have to wonder how Richard Chamber
Chambers in that competition didn't know anything on what did
he know? Who knows who was taking notes? Nobody, So
at the end of it all. One can only hope
that mister Costa and missus Z find some new normal
(17:19):
and some peace and everyone learns to take their jobs
more seriously.
Speaker 7 (17:25):
Sid B.
Speaker 3 (17:26):
So we're going to have more with this with Matthew Haig.
Now Matthew Haig as a lawyer, but he's also a
former cop and we'll ask him what he felt after
that interview and where we might get to go hing forward.
So that's still to come. Took him out the FC game,
the Derby Game amazing and Gavin Gray from the UK
all on early edition. I'm Adrew Dickins.
Speaker 1 (17:44):
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Speaker 3 (18:04):
The Morning jud Welcome to your Monday. Summer starts here.
Mike's on holiday, Heathers doing the Breakfast Show, Ryan's during
the Drive Show, and I'm Andrew Dickens and I'm doing
early addition right up to Christmas and then the summer
Breakfast Show. And this is a little bit of What's
Katy Perry. This a little bit of Lady Gaga and
I'm playing Lady Gaga for a reason, because she played
Melbourne over the course of the weekend at the Marvel Stadium.
(18:25):
My boy went because he's living in Melbourne and a
lot of our staff have gone over there to do this.
Seven hundred dollars tickets. Can you believe it? However, there's
some controversy about the Lady Gaga show. The show itself
was fantastic, the singing was fantastic, but everyone looked at
the staging and said, Hello, that's the stage. That's the
stage she uses when she's playing like Spark Arena. When
she's playing an indoor stadium. That's not the big stage
(18:47):
she uses for the big stadium. Hey are you Lady Gaga?
Have you skimped? Are you guysually giving us a lower
level show? What's that all about? People got upset about it,
but like I say, the tunes were great, but I
can't oscillate. She's not coming here, is he? Come on down,
Lady Gega, you'll love it now. On the Saturday, I
was in the Cormandle and it was clear blue skies
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and thirty two degrees. So I did the sensible thing,
which was to hide inside away from the sun and
watch the football. And it was Auckland FC against the
Wellington Phoenix, their fifth there at Derby. And boy, what
a game. What a game, real feeling, excellent goals, particularly
Lucky Brooks for Auckland. It was a beautiful gold Rufus
golf for Wellington was a screamer. The crowd of twenty
two thousand were fully involved. They were singing their hearts
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out and I thought, you know, watching this so much fun.
This is what rugby should be afraid of. Football League
and basketball have embraced the spectacle and excitement of sport
and it makes for a great product. Any MPC or
Super rugby game would love to have what the Black
Knights and the Knicks had on Saturday. But they don't.
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And I don't know why. Why Why do New Zealand
rugby crowds watch games silently, scowling with grumpy faces. Why
do the not sing? Everybody else around the world when
they're watching football has a has a sing when they're
watching rugby. You know, listen to the Welsh, listen to
the Angers, swing, swing low and all that sort of carrier,
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But not New Zealand crowds. We're just there being grumpy
football and league crowds watching their sport was wis de
viv and it's because well, their sports are better games.
League was invented because rugby was dull. Basketball and football
are the biggest sports in the world because they're fun
and rugby is not. Rugby has to find its joy
because a new generation is coming and they like to
(20:31):
have fun when they pay good money. Does it be
twenty six around the country? We go Callen Proctor out
of Otaga. Good morning to your calum morning Andrew. So
we've got a Southern gang pad that's been raided.
Speaker 8 (20:47):
Yeah, look it's in fact it's been the scene of
a number of prolonged and torchsu speatings. It could be
now confiscated. Andrew Crown Lawyers have applied for a forfeiture
order covering what is the Mongrel Mobs headquarters in Matoda
and the next door six in an Albion Street. They
have a combined rtable value of three hundred and forty
seven thousand dollars in Matoda and Open Justice reports that
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several beatings took place there between January and November twenty
twenty two. This resulted in six gang members being jailed.
Look please say the property is symbolic of the gang's
perceived powerful status in Southland and this forfeiture applications to
be decided.
Speaker 9 (21:22):
At a later date.
Speaker 3 (21:23):
Take it and crush it. How's your weather?
Speaker 8 (21:26):
I've got rain in the south to this morning, but
it's clearing to find for Dunedin today, nor easterly this
afternoon and twenty.
Speaker 3 (21:32):
The high and I thank you, Claire. Sure it joins
US Film Canterbury, Hella Claire, good morning. Tell me about
the Special Olympics.
Speaker 10 (21:38):
Yes, well, the Special Olympics is believed to be the
perfect event to open our part of key Audae Metro
Sports Center this week. This, of course is for the
event itself. The public will be allowed into the venue
from next week. At the moment, we've had a final
tour through as a media group, finding that the finishing
touches are being ticked off at the venue. There will
be eleven pools, There are spas, five hydrous lines and
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of course nine sports courts. More than twelve hundred athletes
will be competing in christ Jurge in ten sports at
six different venues, including part of Yorday from this Wednesday.
City Council's head of Recreation, Sport and Events at Nigel Cox,
says it's an ideal event to kick things off and
showcase all that the city has to offer. He says,
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Partak Yorda is hosting various events, including swimming and basketball,
and they're expecting an amazing number of spectators as well.
Speaker 3 (22:28):
All right, you're making it all jealous, what with one
stadium to care her opening as well, Christi, which has
gone off. How is your weather?
Speaker 10 (22:35):
It sure is down here, cloud increasing, a bit of
scattered rain developing a bit later. Should clear to find
though by midday, cloud increasing in the evening northwesterlies and
the high twenty four to Willington.
Speaker 3 (22:45):
We go to be is Macintosh, good morning, Good morning Andrew.
Speaker 6 (22:48):
How are you.
Speaker 3 (22:48):
I'm well. We've got a team who could be detained indefinitely.
Speaker 11 (22:53):
Yeah, now, this is actually a fairly grim story. The
family of a ten year old boy who was subjected
to a sexual assault in the public toilets of a
lower Hut playground says the teen attackers mental and intellectual
conditions created a foreseeable risk. A relative says the defendant
should have been better assessed, managed and supervised in his
(23:13):
day to day activities, but Ordogon Tamidiki says it was
limited in its powers to actually physically detain the youth
the day he fled his community home and assaulted the victim,
and he wasn't under any detention order at the time. Well,
he's since been found unfit to actually stand trial and
may be held indefinitely in a secure facility.
Speaker 3 (23:33):
And how's your weather?
Speaker 11 (23:35):
Mostly cloudy with possible mourning drizzle, getting fine this afternoon
and as per Wellington's strong and gusty northeries easying late afternoon.
Speaker 3 (23:43):
Diviza, I think you never read to mart who joins
me from walking from morning teen, Good morning?
Speaker 7 (23:47):
Why we were?
Speaker 3 (23:49):
Are we talking as a water park up they're going
to open again or what?
Speaker 12 (23:53):
Well, look, there's lots of good things happening there for them.
But look, I'll just start with the most exciting breaking
news is that the Why We're the community set to
benefit this is from a forty five million dollar water
care project. Now it's going to build a new wastewater
pump station next to the current Why We wastewater treatment plant,
and also a four point five kilometer pipeline. This will
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connect it to the Hatfield's beach pump station and that
current plant will be decommissioned once all this work is done.
And yes, you're quite right, Andrew, because a couple of
weeks ago it was announced that a fifteen million dollar
revamp of the Whywha Pool, so you know it's all
in conjunction with.
Speaker 3 (24:30):
That, it's all happening. Good on you for getting excited
about a watercare project. See only one now speaking of
water or not? Has the weather no water in sight?
Speaker 2 (24:40):
Fine?
Speaker 3 (24:40):
Fine?
Speaker 12 (24:41):
Oh my goodness. Sweltering temperatures like we had yesterday and
in the weekend and another high twenty eight here in Auckland,
And I.
Speaker 3 (24:48):
Thank you Neva reta man who speaking actually of the
north of the Aukward region. We're talking up to around
Rodney and heading towards north End. If you're out on
a boat over the course of the weekend, you might
have seen a rocket go cruising past on the back
of a barge. And not a little rocket either. This
is a rocket knows, that is as big as a tugboat.
And what that was was Rocket Lab's neutron rocket nose
(25:11):
being transported from the manufacturing facility at Walkworth and heading
eventually down to the Mahia Peninsula to eventually go to
Mars and all that sort of thing. It's the biggest
rocket they've ever made. It's a reusable medium lift rocket
and it was built and walk with and you know
where they built it and walk with at Russell Coot's
old factory for the sale. GP Rocket Lab leased it
(25:32):
a couple of years ago, kept fifty people on it
and said you make great boats, can you make a
rocket And they made of course, we could make a rocket.
So they made a rocket and then they shipped it
down through the Hodaki Golf Can you believe it? That's
New Zealanders doing great stuff. And I love that story.
And it is sixteen to six and we're off to
the UK with Gavin Gray next here on News.
Speaker 1 (25:50):
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Mind for New Zealand Business.
Speaker 3 (25:57):
We got Matthew Hayg on the Costa interview and few
moment's time is now thirteen minutes to six to the UK.
We go Gavin Greg Good morning to you.
Speaker 6 (26:04):
Good morning Andrew.
Speaker 3 (26:05):
So some bloke's been spraying pepper spray all over people
that he.
Speaker 7 (26:09):
Throw, Yes, twenty one injured in total, five of those
needed hospital treatment. But the chaos as the car park.
This was at the car park two Terminal three at
London's Heater Airport. The car park was pretty much in
lockdown for a couple of hours and that meant people
were hanging around trying to get their cars basically having
(26:29):
gone on holiday, so pretty miserable for them. And now
police have been quick to say this was not terrorist
or terrorists related. They say it was not a protest. Instead,
it looked like a group of people who knew each
other got involved in an argument. That argument escalated and
then that resulted in its alleged somebody using something like
pepper spray to spray the beaver that they didn't like,
(26:52):
but ultimately others got caught up in it. Social media
footage I've seen shows large armed police response, fire engines
and off searching a handcuffed individual's incidentally more suspects of
being searched for one person has been arrested. But quite
extraordinary experience and also tremendous knock on as I said,
for those people who are at Heathrow today.
Speaker 3 (27:13):
And speaking of bonkers whippens, some people have been throwing
custard and apple crumble at the Crown Jewels.
Speaker 7 (27:19):
Yes, thankfully the Crown Jewels are not harmed or damaged
in any way. They are of course behind strong glass.
This in the Tower of London, no less. But this
is a new group, new, I think to most people,
called take Back Power. They appear to be an offshoot
of Just Stop Oil, which of course we do know
about and have heard about. They say there are a
(27:40):
new nonviolent civil resistance group. They want to effectively have
a permanent citizens Assembly or House of the People, with
the power to tax extreme wealth and fix Britain anyway,
Andrew Moore of that later, because the four people have
been arrested, they use custom and apple crumble to throw
at the Crown Jaws behind glass. Of course they are
(28:02):
just priceless, so plenty of concern that they might have damaged,
but yeah, permanently guard stationed in and around the room
and thankfully no particular damage. Nevertheless, it's suggested this could
be the first in several stunts that this group carry out.
Apparently on Wednesday they left manure under the Christmas tree
of one of London's top hotels.
Speaker 3 (28:23):
That's beyond the Pale and I thank you Gavin Gray
from the UK. Meanwhile, look, he was wondering over the weekend,
what's happening with Gaza. Apparently Benjamin Yetnia, who says the
first phase of the Gaza seas far as close to finishing.
We had the cease fire announced on October the tenth.
Since then, Hamas has released the last twenty living Israeli
hostages in exchange for two thousand Palestinian detainees. It's handed
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over all but one of the twenty eight bodies of
the hostages. Israeli forces have withdrawn to a ceasefire line.
They're now on control. The fifty eight percent of the
Gaza strip people are still dying though during the ceasefire,
Israelis killed three hundred and sixty Palestinians, including seventy kids.
Three Israeli sold just have been killed in Hamas attacks
over the same period. So what's next, Well, apparently Hamas
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is supposed to disarm, Israeli troops are supposed to withdraw further,
and then we get this board of peace of world
leaders to oversee a new Palestine. But you know, it's
all pretty fragile, and I think what's next is Hamas
must now disarm or the whole thing is for nount.
Speaker 1 (29:23):
Zibby.
Speaker 3 (29:24):
Well it's ten to six. The mc skimmings saga continues.
Andrew Costa has made his explosive claims in that interview
with Jack Taime on Q and A. He said the
Chris Hipkins and Mark Mitchell both new aspects of the
case before it became public, which of course they deny.
Chris hap Con said last week quote, nothing was ever
raised about any of this during my time as Police
(29:45):
Minister or Prime Minister, or during the vedding process for
the Deputy commissioner role.
Speaker 9 (29:49):
I don't know what he means when he says none
of this, but I told him that Van told me
that he had an affair that was with a much
younger woman that went badly wrong, and that email allocations
were now flying as a result of it.
Speaker 3 (30:04):
Can you prove it?
Speaker 8 (30:05):
No?
Speaker 3 (30:06):
No, so joining us now as lawyer and former cort
Matthew Hey, go on to to you, Matthew morning.
Speaker 6 (30:12):
Andrew.
Speaker 3 (30:12):
It's ridiculous, he said, he said, situation now, no one
has proof.
Speaker 13 (30:16):
Well it's not only he said he said it, he
said in five other people said something different.
Speaker 3 (30:21):
Well, what do you make of that?
Speaker 13 (30:23):
Well, it's sad. I think that we have the former
police commissioner differing on that this is not a different
version or mischaracterization of events. He says he told him.
They say he did not when they say they Chris Sipkins,
Marke Mitchell, Deputy Public Service Commissioner, hit A. Bag Itt
and another senior police officer all differ with cost on
(30:44):
very key and important points. And the IPCA preferred their
version of events over costs, which again is a sad
thing to happen when we're talking about any police officer,
let alone the police commissioner.
Speaker 3 (30:55):
But what did he say? I mean, who knows what
he says. He might have just said misgivings having an
affair might have gone right over Hipkins Mitchell's heads. What
do you think the ministers knew, if anything?
Speaker 13 (31:07):
In my opinion, they either knew nothing or as you said,
they were told informally that Mick Swimming had in a
fear some time prior and it had ended badly ords
to that effect. But that's not the point. The point
was that ms Z had made serious allegations of criminal
offending against a step Totory, Theopeter Commissioner, and it doesn't
(31:27):
appear that even Costa says that he told those key.
Speaker 3 (31:30):
People that was this interview a good idea for Costa.
I know he's proud of his name. He believes he
did nothing wrong. But was this a good idea?
Speaker 13 (31:38):
I don't think so. I don't know why he did it.
He apologized the IPSA report was comprehensive. All he's achieved
by giving this interview is to, again, I guess, relictigate
publicly what he told the IPCA and what the IPSA
has already dismissed and preferred other people's versions over his own.
Speaker 3 (31:57):
It shows you that the top of our public service
is a nest of vipers, doesn't it.
Speaker 13 (32:02):
I think it shows that this case Costa was incredibly sloppy,
and I think that continues in some aspects. I don't
know what he's thinking of giving this interview.
Speaker 3 (32:12):
Good stuff, Matthew Hagu, and I thank you for your
time today. Matthew Hague a former police officer now a lawyer,
and it is seven to six. More on this with
Heather and Heather's with me next.
Speaker 1 (32:22):
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Speaker 3 (32:32):
That'd be so it takes three from Andy look costs
as a cop, what's rule number one? Evidence? He has
none something as important as Mick skimming, and he has
a couple of casual chats and doesn't keep any notes.
So I think that's a very fair point as well,
and that I think was made by Matthew haigu he
Loo Heather.
Speaker 1 (32:49):
To be fair to him.
Speaker 12 (32:50):
Jeez, I don't want to be fair to Andrew Costa,
but to be fair to him in Good Morning dickens
to be fair to him.
Speaker 5 (32:55):
He thought it was enoughing.
Speaker 3 (32:57):
So it's probably why there we go, There we go.
Do you want to be trick? I want to trigger you.
Let's trigger hither. Let's play a little bit of Just
Sinda with Graham Norton talking about being a hobbit. Oh,
I should play that. I'll tell you what. I'll play that.
Here we go.
Speaker 14 (33:11):
Half of New Zealand audition and half of New Zealand
starred except for me. All was the That's what I
told myself. I auditioned to be an extra as a
hobbit because I lived I grew up quite close to hobbit.
Speaker 3 (33:31):
All the film, and then she bollocked on about stuff,
and then she said one of the conditions was that
she was supposed to be able to joust, and that's
what the Hobbit was asking for. And as Graham rightly
pointed out, there's no jousting in the Hobbit. And I
sat there thinking, oh, just Cinda, have you just actually
stretched the truth a little bit?
Speaker 2 (33:47):
Oh?
Speaker 1 (33:47):
I just thought that she's very good at riffing.
Speaker 3 (33:50):
I'm so much more generous than you are. Well under,
I'm not because I went jos. There's no jousting. You
don't have to jout. I never saw that.
Speaker 12 (33:57):
I mean, you know, she's annoying to because we had
to live through it.
Speaker 5 (34:01):
But she's very good at what she does, and she
puts an incredible performance, right, and she smiles, and Kate
Winslet loves her, of course she does.
Speaker 3 (34:10):
And you're on the Breakfast Show and I have to
go so yep now, of course obviously more on Costa
and a whole lot more with Heather Duper. See Ellen Next.
Speaker 1 (34:22):
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Speaker 2 (00:12):
It'd be as.
Speaker 3 (00:13):
Welcome moarning to you and welcome to summer so today
on the program in the next hour. How green are
the green shoots in our economy? A new ASB forecast
is good reading and we'll get gred Olsen's core on
it in about five minutes time. Max Verstappen wins in
abud derby, but Lando Norris did enough for his maiden
World championship. Elliott Smith on the Weekend Sport in ten
(00:33):
minutes time. Meanwhile, Rugby should be very worried after the
A League derby on Saturday, and I'll tell you why.
Just after the six thirty news, and Andrew Costa throws
everyone under the bus. Was he right? Was that a
smart thing to do or not? We'll have that story
for you just before six we'll have correspondence from right
around New Zealand and Gavin Gray out of the UK
and you can have your say by using the text.
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The number is ninety two to ninety two. Small charge
does apply. It is seven minutes after five.
Speaker 1 (01:02):
The agenda.
Speaker 3 (01:04):
So it's Monday, the eighth of December and German Chancellor
Fredrik Nittz has met with Netanyahu in Israel and he's
pushing to get the Gaza cease fire into its second phase.
So Benjamin Netanyah, who says he's got some very important
conversations mind up at the end of the month, and
he says he's got a meeting with Trump in December.
Speaker 2 (01:22):
So now opportunities for peace are there, we tend to
exploit them. I'm going to discuss them with the President
Trump when I meet him later on this month, but
we discussed them as well, and we discussed, of course
how to bring an end to the Hamas rule in Gaza,
because that's an essential part of ensuring a different future
(01:44):
for Gaza and a different future for us well.
Speaker 3 (01:47):
On Gaza. A bit later on in the program to
the Formula one and Abu Dhabi and Landa Norris has
won his first Formula one title by finishing third, and
it's fair to say his fans are stoked.
Speaker 4 (01:58):
Relieve you know, it was everything unbelieva.
Speaker 3 (02:03):
Yes, a max h step and won the Grand Prix,
but it wasn't enough Oscar Piastri came second. Liam Lawson
was eighteenth after starting thirteenth, and he was a lapdown
on the winners. And finally, Katy Perry and former Canadian
Prime Minister Justin Trudeau have gone Instagram official. The singer
(02:24):
posted a string of photos and videos of their trip
together to Japan. In one picture, Katie and Justin are
seen smiling for a selfie with their faces touching. In
another video, the pair are seen trying sushi. You know what,
He kissed a girl and he liked it.
Speaker 1 (02:41):
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Dickens and R The Supercenter explore R these accessories and
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Speaker 3 (02:51):
Said be so this morning, I walked in and the
newspapers out. In the paper's headline is a warning from
a credit agency that the government's rites as will make
it harder for the Orcan Council to balance us books.
Are you surprised, I'm not. And it won't just be
the Orcan Council, It'll be all councils. The rate caps.
They said it's to stop the dumb stuff, and others
(03:14):
have said it's to stop the nice to haves. So
we can have more needs to haves, but you know what,
the nice to haves are the least of our problems.
It's the need to haves that's costing so much. It's
the water and the rubbish, and the roads and the
footpaths and the public transport that swallow the bulk of
your rates, and that is now going to be cut
(03:35):
with the rates cap. So what it will mean for
all of us is an increase in the cost of living,
the very thing this government swore to get on top of,
because councils are going to be looking to find their
funds now elsewhere so they can do your water and
your rubbish and your roads. And you know what that
means When they're looking for funds helsewhere, that means queueser pays. Already,
(03:56):
organ councilors wanting to push residential parking permits up by
fifty bucks a year, expect more increases in costs. Brace
yourself for it. The charges will take the place of
your rates, and the charges could feed inflation. But it
looks good to the electorate. Seventy five percent of us
support rate caps because we all hate taxes, we all
(04:18):
hate rates, But do we really understand the implications. Once again,
the government's moves are going to have an unintended consequence
of making things more expensive, like the moves against payWave.
The government moved against payWave. They know that we don't
like the surcharge. But did they get rid of the searchcharge. No,
they just moved the costs onto the retailer, with the
(04:41):
consequence of higher prices. It's also reminiscent of the way
they've unilaterally increased employer's Kiwisaver contributions. Now that puts even
more pressure on small medium businesses and their cash flow.
And what does that mean higher prices. The government likes
to say they're cutting out tax but what's really happening
(05:02):
is the taxes are being disguised as user pays and
they're moving them ever closer to your bottom lines. And
you know, it's called user pays for a reason because you,
the user, will still have to pay.
Speaker 1 (05:15):
News Talk said B.
Speaker 3 (05:17):
But maybe we've got more money to pay these things
because the new ASB reports on our financial health is
out and says that twenty twenty six is when the
whim will turn. So what did they say and how
do we feel about it? We're going to talk to
brad Olsen in a few moments time from Inframetrics to
talk all about this, and later Elliot Smith on the
black Caps, Formula one orkand FC and oh my goodness,
(05:37):
the Ashes. There's a lot still to come. It's early edition.
It's News Talk, sabb.
Speaker 1 (05:42):
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Speaker 3 (05:53):
Said b it's time for some good news and the
time is fourteen minutes after five, so survive until twenty
five mins the mantra that we heard, but the ASP
has come out with a new report that says twenty
twenty six is when the worm will turn. They are
seeing clear signs of life. Consumers are spending again, big
ticket buyings back on the table, and interest rates of course,
(06:14):
as we all know, finally easing off. So brad Olsen
from Informetrics Joints were now goodby to your brand. Good morning,
So this sounds right to you.
Speaker 5 (06:22):
Yes, we have seen a number of indicators that have
started to shift around and are sort of setting up
a bit more of that growth as we head into
twenty twenty six. I mean, consumers spending did see a
good boost in the September quarter and has continued to
sort of show some signs, especially under the hood, that
there is a bit more willingness to spend by consumers.
(06:45):
The fact that you know, your electronic sales, your car
numbers and similar have been improving. There's been a little
bit more activity in the housing market. Those are encouraging
because clearly kiwis are sort of doing something with their money.
And at the same time you stay and see job
prospects that are turning around slowly as well.
Speaker 6 (07:04):
And I think the point that Ape's made is that
you know.
Speaker 5 (07:07):
It's not that everything's absolutely immediately firing on all cylinders,
but the conditions are very much therefore greater economic activity
to happen next year.
Speaker 3 (07:16):
Why do you reckon it took so long? This is
your record. Why do you took reckon it took so
long for the economic recovery to take hold.
Speaker 5 (07:23):
Look, I think we were actually seeing a bit more
momentum at the start of this year. Again, it was
still pretty limited.
Speaker 6 (07:32):
But there was a little bit whereas the sort.
Speaker 5 (07:34):
Of middle of this year was impacted by just a
bit of a lot of uncertainty around the tariffs and
similar that I think just sort of put any of
those better improvements and just sort of put them down.
You know, businesses and households just weren't confident enough to
keep spending like they were before. And even at the moment,
(07:55):
you're still seeing sort of patchy results. You know, there
was good spending activity through this September quarter.
Speaker 6 (08:00):
But Black Friday sales look like they've.
Speaker 5 (08:02):
Probably disappointed a touch compared to expectations. So again, it's
not necessarily that you've sort of got this wholehearted pace
across the entire economy. But over time, those lower interest
rates are doing what they need to to stimulate people
to spend. It's not worth saving as much anymore. It's
not worth you know, people who are having to put
their money into the mortgage to the same degree, and
(08:24):
so over time that money is becoming a locked plus
of course, and I think this is probably the big one.
You've now had a consistent enough period of good primary
sector returns that starting to show through in the economy
as well.
Speaker 3 (08:35):
Because I was reading our Siven Bridges last week in
one of those mood of the boardroom things that the
herald writes from time to time, and he wrote, and
it was his first sentence. He wrote that as he
gets older, he begins to realize just how important sentiment is.
And I wonder whether we were all guilty of actually
squashing our sentiment by our continual going on about just
how stuff the economy is after the last regime? Did
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we talk ourselves down?
Speaker 5 (09:00):
There is an element to that. I mean, you're right
that confidence is quite important, and that's why it's been
so interesting over the last year that you've had very,
very high business confidence which has probably been a little
bit too over the top, but you know, fairly subdued
consumer confidence, which has felt almost a little bit overly downbeat.
And I think that the truth is probably somewhere a
(09:20):
bit more in the middle. You don't necessarily want the
economy that.
Speaker 6 (09:24):
Like you say, is talking it south down all the time.
Speaker 5 (09:26):
Equally, you can't, you know, look at the economy and
talk it up massively if there are fundamental challenges in there.
So I think that there's a little bit of truth
more through the middle. One big challenge for this year
for consumers has been the labor market. It's all fine
and well to think that you know your mortgage race
is going down and that will lead to better things.
But if you're worried about your job, and people have been,
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that's still a pretty big limitation that keeps people in
their shells. And you're starting to see a little bit
of movement there recently with a slight improvement and job adds,
so that's starting to change the dial on the labor market.
Speaker 3 (10:00):
Jobs, fun, good stuff. Brad, have yourself a great summer
and don't forget to go out there and spend some money.
Same with you, say with us all, Brad Olsen, and
for metrics principle. Now, of course, the big economic news
over the course of the week was that Ikea opened
in Auckland and people are saying, what's that impact going
to be and who's going to be impacted by it?
And I see that Kmart this is new analysis has
(10:21):
come out from Forsyth Bar. Kmart is doing pretty good.
Kmart is earning twice as much per square meter and
has gross margins eight percent higher than the warehouse, so
they're doing okay. The warehouse ain't doing so good. The
warehouse's full year result posted in September showed that the
company had a loss of two point eight million dollars.
(10:43):
Kmart's financial result for twenty twenty five was that they
made one hundred and two million dollars profit and total
sales over one billion dollars for the first time. So
this is good news for kmart, a bit of a
worrying news, piece of news for the warehouse. And meanwhile,
Ike has only just started, so watch this space. Max
Verstapping is not the world champion, but he did win
(11:04):
the race. More on the F one, the cricket which
was extraordinary, and the football to come next with Elliot
Smith on News TALKSB twenty one.
Speaker 1 (11:12):
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Speaker 3 (11:21):
Welton into the office just before fore as you do
and who's there? But Elliott, yes, that was very early.
Speaker 4 (11:28):
It was early. You wake up early, yeah, I.
Speaker 3 (11:31):
Know, but all Orders is never here that early. You
were here very early for the F one.
Speaker 4 (11:35):
I was here really because they wake up at half
past one and couldn't give it this week, so I
thought let's just get out of bed and get into
the day, and not because the IF one was on
there's a bit of other sport obviously on I thought,
let's get into the office and keep things off. And oh,
I don't know if it was a great Formula One finish.
I mean didn't have the fireworks that maybe we wanted.
It was a fairly straightforward race, even with Max for
Stapping winning the race, and but in the terms of
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the title scheme, he was never really a threat to
Lando Norris taken the whole thing up.
Speaker 3 (12:03):
But when you consider what was happening at the beginning
of the season, when it was a McLaren procession totally,
this season actually ended out quite exciting.
Speaker 4 (12:09):
Yeah, and I think the Stapping can take a lot.
I think he won more races than anyone else in
the season, But just on the points alone, I couldn't
quite get that they found something towards the back end
of the season. Didn't they read Bull with that car
with the stappin and next season. We don't want to
look too head too early because Landa Norris is only
one at what an hour or two ago, But you know,
you'd think that Red Bull are well placed next year
(12:29):
if they can get their car right to go back
to her.
Speaker 3 (12:31):
Who knows they've all got new cars. Hopefully Liam gets
a new cast down and thirteenth ended out, Eighteenth went
back five places.
Speaker 4 (12:39):
Yeah, time penalty didn't help fourteenth for the season. Look,
he's got a drive confirmed next year. And that's the
main thing I think for Liam Lawson.
Speaker 3 (12:45):
And you're here because all of this of course goes
to test matches and so he would have had a
very difficult day over the course of the weekend because
that last day, I mean I watched it and it
was it was just like, come on, come on, but
you know, struck by injuries, we just couldn't knock them
off in the windy is huge score.
Speaker 4 (13:01):
You've got the sense though one away, didn't you that
the black Caps if they could they got those couple
and they got to six down. If they get one more,
that exposed the tailor a little bit, but they just
couldn't quite do it. And if you can rotate your
bowlers a little bit more, if you have a Nathan
Smith in there, you have obviously Matt Henry that the
spearhead of the pace attack, then you put a little
bit more pressure on the Western these they missed that.
Not only they missed Matt Henry, who was one of
(13:23):
the best pace ballers I think in the world, but
they missed the rotation of that and keeping them fresh, and.
Speaker 3 (13:29):
So now they've got the call up happening and all
sorts of kids are coming into.
Speaker 4 (13:31):
Them thirty years old race. Yeah, I would have liked
to see the West Indys have a bit more of
a crack for I understand why it didn't. The draw
was pretty good result for them. They're eighty runs shy,
you know the final session, why not.
Speaker 3 (13:43):
Have a crack?
Speaker 4 (13:44):
Yeah, one more then shut up. If there's another look
at you, then you shut up shop.
Speaker 3 (13:47):
Yeah yeah, true, true enough. But but you know, here's
the thing, We've got another test to come. I mean,
do we have the depth.
Speaker 4 (13:53):
No, I don't think so. I look at the little
I would like to see them go a bit more
youth with this elections. I think it's a question mark.
So with some of those players in the team batting
wise and also bowling wise, so this was probably the
series to do it. Now they've got injuries, they're still
bringing in in. You know, thirty year old Michael Rah.
I'm sure he's twirled and he's done well in domestic cricket,
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but you can't tell me there's a young kid out
there that would be worth the opportunity.
Speaker 3 (14:17):
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I'd loved him Trembling, five twenty four Costa interview, More
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Speaker 3 (14:33):
News Talks, It Be. It's five twenty seven. Arm Andrew
Dickens runs here for the drivetime show. Hea, that's doing
the breakfast show. So what do you make of the
Andrew Costa interview on Q and A Yesterday? First question
is why did he do it?
Speaker 6 (14:45):
Well?
Speaker 3 (14:45):
Obviously he felt he'd been thrown under the bus by
Judith Collins, Mark Mitchell and Richard Chambers at that recent
press conference, so he was prepared to throw them under
the bus as well, So he did the interview. And
he does have a point when the IPCA report did
not mention corruption, but the politicians and the new police
Commissioner inferred it, so he had to protect his name,
and the protection of his name is the reason he
(15:06):
negotiated with the Public Service Commissioner in the delay in
resigning from his latest job. In frankly, I don't blame him,
and what did the Public Service commissioners say about him?
He told Mike last week that Andrew Costa always seemed
genuine in all his dealings with them. So the problem
is with the throwing under the bus is that Costa
has no proof of his claims and so now we
have a ridiculous he said, he said situation, and nobody
(15:30):
is able to provide concrete proof of what they said
or may not have said at the time. Now Costa
may have brief Mitchell and Hipkins of the situation, but
what does that mean? Which situation was he talking about?
How much detail did he do? Was he telling them, Oh, yeah,
Mick s Gibbons had an affair, it's gone a bit wrong.
Or did he tell him, oh, the police force has
been covering up one of them own. How much detail
(15:51):
of anything did he give them in these informal briefings.
Who knows because no one was keeping notes. And here's
the thing, The fascinating fact he mentioned in that interview
is that the police this is a three billion dollar
business which makes the job of police commissioner one of
the biggest CEO positions in our economy. And ask any
CEO whether they take notes of any conversation about their business,
(16:13):
and they'll tell you it's imperative. Loose lips ships. One
would have thought that taking notes after a conversation about
this sort of stuff is imperative for a commissioner, also
for any minister of the Crown as well. And I'm
looking at you, mister Hipkins and mister Mitchell. My whole
impression after the interview is that everyone was a bit loose.
(16:33):
It's a tawdry tale of bad judgment at the top
of our public service, both the public servants and of
course the politicians. And remember the buck always stops at
the top, and the politicians are at the top. It
also reminded me that the political battles at the top
levels of our public service are actually very vicious affairs,
and everyone plays a very hard game. And Richard Chambers
(16:55):
was in competition with a very competent police officer in
Mcskimming who had a hidden sex life and a preblection
for animals. But you have to wonder how Richard Chamber
Chambers in that competition didn't know anything on what did
he know? Who knows who was taking notes? Nobody, So
at the end of it all. One can only hope
that mister Costa and missus Z find some new normal
(17:19):
and some peace and everyone learns to take their jobs
more seriously.
Speaker 7 (17:25):
Sid B.
Speaker 3 (17:26):
So we're going to have more with this with Matthew Haig.
Now Matthew Haig as a lawyer, but he's also a
former cop and we'll ask him what he felt after
that interview and where we might get to go hing forward.
So that's still to come. Took him out the FC game,
the Derby Game amazing and Gavin Gray from the UK
all on early edition. I'm Adrew Dickins.
Speaker 1 (17:44):
Good Morning, the news you need this morning and the
in depth analysis earlier edition with Andrew Dickens and r
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Speaker 3 (18:04):
The Morning jud Welcome to your Monday. Summer starts here.
Mike's on holiday, Heathers doing the Breakfast Show, Ryan's during
the Drive Show, and I'm Andrew Dickens and I'm doing
early addition right up to Christmas and then the summer
Breakfast Show. And this is a little bit of What's
Katy Perry. This a little bit of Lady Gaga and
I'm playing Lady Gaga for a reason, because she played
Melbourne over the course of the weekend at the Marvel Stadium.
(18:25):
My boy went because he's living in Melbourne and a
lot of our staff have gone over there to do this.
Seven hundred dollars tickets. Can you believe it? However, there's
some controversy about the Lady Gaga show. The show itself
was fantastic, the singing was fantastic, but everyone looked at
the staging and said, Hello, that's the stage. That's the
stage she uses when she's playing like Spark Arena. When
she's playing an indoor stadium. That's not the big stage
(18:47):
she uses for the big stadium. Hey are you Lady Gaga?
Have you skimped? Are you guysually giving us a lower
level show? What's that all about? People got upset about it,
but like I say, the tunes were great, but I
can't oscillate. She's not coming here, is he? Come on down,
Lady Gega, you'll love it now. On the Saturday, I
was in the Cormandle and it was clear blue skies
(19:07):
and thirty two degrees. So I did the sensible thing,
which was to hide inside away from the sun and
watch the football. And it was Auckland FC against the
Wellington Phoenix, their fifth there at Derby. And boy, what
a game. What a game, real feeling, excellent goals, particularly
Lucky Brooks for Auckland. It was a beautiful gold Rufus
golf for Wellington was a screamer. The crowd of twenty
two thousand were fully involved. They were singing their hearts
(19:28):
out and I thought, you know, watching this so much fun.
This is what rugby should be afraid of. Football League
and basketball have embraced the spectacle and excitement of sport
and it makes for a great product. Any MPC or
Super rugby game would love to have what the Black
Knights and the Knicks had on Saturday. But they don't.
(19:48):
And I don't know why. Why Why do New Zealand
rugby crowds watch games silently, scowling with grumpy faces. Why
do the not sing? Everybody else around the world when
they're watching football has a has a sing when they're
watching rugby. You know, listen to the Welsh, listen to
the Angers, swing, swing low and all that sort of carrier,
(20:10):
But not New Zealand crowds. We're just there being grumpy
football and league crowds watching their sport was wis de
viv and it's because well, their sports are better games.
League was invented because rugby was dull. Basketball and football
are the biggest sports in the world because they're fun
and rugby is not. Rugby has to find its joy
because a new generation is coming and they like to
(20:31):
have fun when they pay good money. Does it be
twenty six around the country? We go Callen Proctor out
of Otaga. Good morning to your calum morning Andrew. So
we've got a Southern gang pad that's been raided.
Speaker 8 (20:47):
Yeah, look it's in fact it's been the scene of
a number of prolonged and torchsu speatings. It could be
now confiscated. Andrew Crown Lawyers have applied for a forfeiture
order covering what is the Mongrel Mobs headquarters in Matoda
and the next door six in an Albion Street. They
have a combined rtable value of three hundred and forty
seven thousand dollars in Matoda and Open Justice reports that
(21:08):
several beatings took place there between January and November twenty
twenty two. This resulted in six gang members being jailed.
Look please say the property is symbolic of the gang's
perceived powerful status in Southland and this forfeiture applications to
be decided.
Speaker 9 (21:22):
At a later date.
Speaker 3 (21:23):
Take it and crush it. How's your weather?
Speaker 8 (21:26):
I've got rain in the south to this morning, but
it's clearing to find for Dunedin today, nor easterly this
afternoon and twenty.
Speaker 3 (21:32):
The high and I thank you, Claire. Sure it joins
US Film Canterbury, Hella Claire, good morning. Tell me about
the Special Olympics.
Speaker 10 (21:38):
Yes, well, the Special Olympics is believed to be the
perfect event to open our part of key Audae Metro
Sports Center this week. This, of course is for the
event itself. The public will be allowed into the venue
from next week. At the moment, we've had a final
tour through as a media group, finding that the finishing
touches are being ticked off at the venue. There will
be eleven pools, There are spas, five hydrous lines and
(22:01):
of course nine sports courts. More than twelve hundred athletes
will be competing in christ Jurge in ten sports at
six different venues, including part of Yorday from this Wednesday.
City Council's head of Recreation, Sport and Events at Nigel Cox,
says it's an ideal event to kick things off and
showcase all that the city has to offer. He says,
(22:21):
Partak Yorda is hosting various events, including swimming and basketball,
and they're expecting an amazing number of spectators as well.
Speaker 3 (22:28):
All right, you're making it all jealous, what with one
stadium to care her opening as well, Christi, which has
gone off. How is your weather?
Speaker 10 (22:35):
It sure is down here, cloud increasing, a bit of
scattered rain developing a bit later. Should clear to find
though by midday, cloud increasing in the evening northwesterlies and
the high twenty four to Willington.
Speaker 3 (22:45):
We go to be is Macintosh, good morning, Good morning Andrew.
Speaker 6 (22:48):
How are you.
Speaker 3 (22:48):
I'm well. We've got a team who could be detained indefinitely.
Speaker 11 (22:53):
Yeah, now, this is actually a fairly grim story. The
family of a ten year old boy who was subjected
to a sexual assault in the public toilets of a
lower Hut playground says the teen attackers mental and intellectual
conditions created a foreseeable risk. A relative says the defendant
should have been better assessed, managed and supervised in his
(23:13):
day to day activities, but Ordogon Tamidiki says it was
limited in its powers to actually physically detain the youth
the day he fled his community home and assaulted the victim,
and he wasn't under any detention order at the time. Well,
he's since been found unfit to actually stand trial and
may be held indefinitely in a secure facility.
Speaker 3 (23:33):
And how's your weather?
Speaker 11 (23:35):
Mostly cloudy with possible mourning drizzle, getting fine this afternoon
and as per Wellington's strong and gusty northeries easying late afternoon.
Speaker 3 (23:43):
Diviza, I think you never read to mart who joins
me from walking from morning teen, Good morning?
Speaker 7 (23:47):
Why we were?
Speaker 3 (23:49):
Are we talking as a water park up they're going
to open again or what?
Speaker 12 (23:53):
Well, look, there's lots of good things happening there for them.
But look, I'll just start with the most exciting breaking
news is that the Why We're the community set to
benefit this is from a forty five million dollar water
care project. Now it's going to build a new wastewater
pump station next to the current Why We wastewater treatment plant,
and also a four point five kilometer pipeline. This will
(24:14):
connect it to the Hatfield's beach pump station and that
current plant will be decommissioned once all this work is done.
And yes, you're quite right, Andrew, because a couple of
weeks ago it was announced that a fifteen million dollar
revamp of the Whywha Pool, so you know it's all
in conjunction with.
Speaker 3 (24:30):
That, it's all happening. Good on you for getting excited
about a watercare project. See only one now speaking of
water or not? Has the weather no water in sight?
Speaker 2 (24:40):
Fine?
Speaker 3 (24:40):
Fine?
Speaker 12 (24:41):
Oh my goodness. Sweltering temperatures like we had yesterday and
in the weekend and another high twenty eight here in Auckland,
And I.
Speaker 3 (24:48):
Thank you Neva reta man who speaking actually of the
north of the Aukward region. We're talking up to around
Rodney and heading towards north End. If you're out on
a boat over the course of the weekend, you might
have seen a rocket go cruising past on the back
of a barge. And not a little rocket either. This
is a rocket knows, that is as big as a tugboat.
And what that was was Rocket Lab's neutron rocket nose
(25:11):
being transported from the manufacturing facility at Walkworth and heading
eventually down to the Mahia Peninsula to eventually go to
Mars and all that sort of thing. It's the biggest
rocket they've ever made. It's a reusable medium lift rocket
and it was built and walk with and you know
where they built it and walk with at Russell Coot's
old factory for the sale. GP Rocket Lab leased it
(25:32):
a couple of years ago, kept fifty people on it
and said you make great boats, can you make a
rocket And they made of course, we could make a rocket.
So they made a rocket and then they shipped it
down through the Hodaki Golf Can you believe it? That's
New Zealanders doing great stuff. And I love that story.
And it is sixteen to six and we're off to
the UK with Gavin Gray next here on News.
Speaker 1 (25:50):
TALKSB International Correspondence with Ends and Eye Insurance Peace of
Mind for New Zealand Business.
Speaker 3 (25:57):
We got Matthew Hayg on the Costa interview and few
moment's time is now thirteen minutes to six to the UK.
We go Gavin Greg Good morning to you.
Speaker 6 (26:04):
Good morning Andrew.
Speaker 3 (26:05):
So some bloke's been spraying pepper spray all over people
that he.
Speaker 7 (26:09):
Throw, Yes, twenty one injured in total, five of those
needed hospital treatment. But the chaos as the car park.
This was at the car park two Terminal three at
London's Heater Airport. The car park was pretty much in
lockdown for a couple of hours and that meant people
were hanging around trying to get their cars basically having
(26:29):
gone on holiday, so pretty miserable for them. And now
police have been quick to say this was not terrorist
or terrorists related. They say it was not a protest. Instead,
it looked like a group of people who knew each
other got involved in an argument. That argument escalated and
then that resulted in its alleged somebody using something like
pepper spray to spray the beaver that they didn't like,
(26:52):
but ultimately others got caught up in it. Social media
footage I've seen shows large armed police response, fire engines
and off searching a handcuffed individual's incidentally more suspects of
being searched for one person has been arrested. But quite
extraordinary experience and also tremendous knock on as I said,
for those people who are at Heathrow today.
Speaker 3 (27:13):
And speaking of bonkers whippens, some people have been throwing
custard and apple crumble at the Crown Jewels.
Speaker 7 (27:19):
Yes, thankfully the Crown Jewels are not harmed or damaged
in any way. They are of course behind strong glass.
This in the Tower of London, no less. But this
is a new group, new, I think to most people,
called take Back Power. They appear to be an offshoot
of Just Stop Oil, which of course we do know
about and have heard about. They say there are a
(27:40):
new nonviolent civil resistance group. They want to effectively have
a permanent citizens Assembly or House of the People, with
the power to tax extreme wealth and fix Britain anyway,
Andrew Moore of that later, because the four people have
been arrested, they use custom and apple crumble to throw
at the Crown Jaws behind glass. Of course they are
(28:02):
just priceless, so plenty of concern that they might have damaged,
but yeah, permanently guard stationed in and around the room
and thankfully no particular damage. Nevertheless, it's suggested this could
be the first in several stunts that this group carry out.
Apparently on Wednesday they left manure under the Christmas tree
of one of London's top hotels.
Speaker 3 (28:23):
That's beyond the Pale and I thank you Gavin Gray
from the UK. Meanwhile, look, he was wondering over the weekend,
what's happening with Gaza. Apparently Benjamin Yetnia, who says the
first phase of the Gaza seas far as close to finishing.
We had the cease fire announced on October the tenth.
Since then, Hamas has released the last twenty living Israeli
hostages in exchange for two thousand Palestinian detainees. It's handed
(28:43):
over all but one of the twenty eight bodies of
the hostages. Israeli forces have withdrawn to a ceasefire line.
They're now on control. The fifty eight percent of the
Gaza strip people are still dying though during the ceasefire,
Israelis killed three hundred and sixty Palestinians, including seventy kids.
Three Israeli sold just have been killed in Hamas attacks
over the same period. So what's next, Well, apparently Hamas
(29:05):
is supposed to disarm, Israeli troops are supposed to withdraw further,
and then we get this board of peace of world
leaders to oversee a new Palestine. But you know, it's
all pretty fragile, and I think what's next is Hamas
must now disarm or the whole thing is for nount.
Speaker 1 (29:23):
Zibby.
Speaker 3 (29:24):
Well it's ten to six. The mc skimmings saga continues.
Andrew Costa has made his explosive claims in that interview
with Jack Taime on Q and A. He said the
Chris Hipkins and Mark Mitchell both new aspects of the
case before it became public, which of course they deny.
Chris hap Con said last week quote, nothing was ever
raised about any of this during my time as Police
(29:45):
Minister or Prime Minister, or during the vedding process for
the Deputy commissioner role.
Speaker 9 (29:49):
I don't know what he means when he says none
of this, but I told him that Van told me
that he had an affair that was with a much
younger woman that went badly wrong, and that email allocations
were now flying as a result of it.
Speaker 3 (30:04):
Can you prove it?
Speaker 8 (30:05):
No?
Speaker 3 (30:06):
No, so joining us now as lawyer and former cort
Matthew Hey, go on to to you, Matthew morning.
Speaker 6 (30:12):
Andrew.
Speaker 3 (30:12):
It's ridiculous, he said, he said, situation now, no one
has proof.
Speaker 13 (30:16):
Well it's not only he said he said it, he
said in five other people said something different.
Speaker 3 (30:21):
Well, what do you make of that?
Speaker 13 (30:23):
Well, it's sad. I think that we have the former
police commissioner differing on that this is not a different
version or mischaracterization of events. He says he told him.
They say he did not when they say they Chris Sipkins,
Marke Mitchell, Deputy Public Service Commissioner, hit A. Bag Itt
and another senior police officer all differ with cost on
(30:44):
very key and important points. And the IPCA preferred their
version of events over costs, which again is a sad
thing to happen when we're talking about any police officer,
let alone the police commissioner.
Speaker 3 (30:55):
But what did he say? I mean, who knows what
he says. He might have just said misgivings having an
affair might have gone right over Hipkins Mitchell's heads. What
do you think the ministers knew, if anything?
Speaker 13 (31:07):
In my opinion, they either knew nothing or as you said,
they were told informally that Mick Swimming had in a
fear some time prior and it had ended badly ords
to that effect. But that's not the point. The point
was that ms Z had made serious allegations of criminal
offending against a step Totory, Theopeter Commissioner, and it doesn't
(31:27):
appear that even Costa says that he told those key.
Speaker 3 (31:30):
People that was this interview a good idea for Costa.
I know he's proud of his name. He believes he
did nothing wrong. But was this a good idea?
Speaker 13 (31:38):
I don't think so. I don't know why he did it.
He apologized the IPSA report was comprehensive. All he's achieved
by giving this interview is to, again, I guess, relictigate
publicly what he told the IPCA and what the IPSA
has already dismissed and preferred other people's versions over his own.
Speaker 3 (31:57):
It shows you that the top of our public service
is a nest of vipers, doesn't it.
Speaker 13 (32:02):
I think it shows that this case Costa was incredibly sloppy,
and I think that continues in some aspects. I don't
know what he's thinking of giving this interview.
Speaker 3 (32:12):
Good stuff, Matthew Hagu, and I thank you for your
time today. Matthew Hague a former police officer now a lawyer,
and it is seven to six. More on this with
Heather and Heather's with me next.
Speaker 1 (32:22):
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Speaker 3 (32:32):
That'd be so it takes three from Andy look costs
as a cop, what's rule number one? Evidence? He has
none something as important as Mick skimming, and he has
a couple of casual chats and doesn't keep any notes.
So I think that's a very fair point as well,
and that I think was made by Matthew haigu he
Loo Heather.
Speaker 1 (32:49):
To be fair to him.
Speaker 12 (32:50):
Jeez, I don't want to be fair to Andrew Costa,
but to be fair to him in Good Morning dickens
to be fair to him.
Speaker 5 (32:55):
He thought it was enoughing.
Speaker 3 (32:57):
So it's probably why there we go, There we go.
Do you want to be trick? I want to trigger you.
Let's trigger hither. Let's play a little bit of Just
Sinda with Graham Norton talking about being a hobbit. Oh,
I should play that. I'll tell you what. I'll play that.
Here we go.
Speaker 14 (33:11):
Half of New Zealand audition and half of New Zealand
starred except for me. All was the That's what I
told myself. I auditioned to be an extra as a
hobbit because I lived I grew up quite close to hobbit.
Speaker 3 (33:31):
All the film, and then she bollocked on about stuff,
and then she said one of the conditions was that
she was supposed to be able to joust, and that's
what the Hobbit was asking for. And as Graham rightly
pointed out, there's no jousting in the Hobbit. And I
sat there thinking, oh, just Cinda, have you just actually
stretched the truth a little bit?
Speaker 2 (33:47):
Oh?
Speaker 1 (33:47):
I just thought that she's very good at riffing.
Speaker 3 (33:50):
I'm so much more generous than you are. Well under,
I'm not because I went jos. There's no jousting. You
don't have to jout. I never saw that.
Speaker 12 (33:57):
I mean, you know, she's annoying to because we had
to live through it.
Speaker 5 (34:01):
But she's very good at what she does, and she
puts an incredible performance, right, and she smiles, and Kate
Winslet loves her, of course she does.
Speaker 3 (34:10):
And you're on the Breakfast Show and I have to
go so yep now, of course obviously more on Costa
and a whole lot more with Heather Duper. See Ellen Next.
Speaker 1 (34:22):
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