December 10, 2025 • 34 mins
On the Early Edition with Andrew Dickens Full Show Podcast Thursday the 11th of December 2025, Parliament's education and workforce committee has dropped its interim report on youth online harm, Dr Parmjeet Parmar who represents Act of the committee shares her thoughts.
Emeritus Professor & Massey University Sociologist, Paul Spoonley tells Andrew whether or not the worst of the brain drain is over.
The Cancer Control Agency has released it's 2025 report, Chief Executive for the Southern Cancer Society Nicola Coom shares her thoughts.
Plus, US Correspondent Mitch McCann has the latest on Trump's rally in Pennsylvania and plans in the US to scrutinize foreign visitors social media.
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
The issues, the interviews and the insight. Andrew Dickens on
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Speaker 2 (00:12):
That'd be a scivoting to you and welcome to the program,
my Andrew Dickens. I'm here until six and coming up
over the next hour. The Cancer Control Agency has dropped
its twenty twenty five report, So how are we doing
in the fight against this cruel enemy? That story for
you In five Immigrants wanting to live in New Zealand,
We're up seven percent last month, while departures were down
fourteen percent. So are we looking better and better in
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the world's size? Hey, and what's happening with the brain train?
Paul Spoonley talks to us in ten Are we really
losing business because of our summer holidays? And while Australia
has done it, is it our turn for a social
media ban? We'll have that story a many more, including
Mitch McCann out of the United States of America, correspondens
from right around New Zealand News as it breaks, and
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Speaker 1 (01:00):
The agenda.
Speaker 2 (01:02):
So it's seven minutes half to five. It's Thursday, the
eleventh of December, and Ukraine is expected to hand over
its revised peace plan to the US negotiators today.
Speaker 3 (01:12):
President Lansky has given some broader details. What we know
is that there's more than one document. There's the sort
of main peace proposal, which we think has been whittled
down to about twenty points. There's a document concerning security guarantees,
and there's one on the reconstruction and sort of restoring
the economic potential of Ukraine.
Speaker 2 (01:31):
Now, Donald Trump's return to doing rallies again, this time
in Pennsylvania over the night, where he tried to convince
people that the American economy is just fantastic. It's brilliant,
It's never been better. And he fired shots at the Dems.
Speaker 4 (01:44):
They caused the high prices, and we're bringing them down.
Speaker 5 (01:47):
It's a simple message. They have a new word, you know,
those have a hoax. The new word is affordability.
Speaker 4 (01:52):
So they look at the camera and they say, this
erection is all about affordability.
Speaker 2 (01:58):
All right, I will talk to Mitch mccaenn about this
in about half an hour's time. The daughter of this
year's Nobel Peace Prize winner, Maria Corina Machado, has stepped
in to accept the award on her mum's behalf now.
The Institute praised Machado for her fight to ship Venezuela
from a dictatorship to a democracy, and she's actually been
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in hiding since the country's disputed twenty twenty four election,
which is why the daughter stood up.
Speaker 6 (02:25):
But although she has not been able to be here
and take part in this ceremony, I must say that
my mother never breaks a promise, and that is why,
with all the joy in my heart, I can tell
you that in just a few hours we will be
able to embrace her here in Oslo after sixteen months
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living in.
Speaker 2 (02:48):
Here, and finally, a man in Sweden has successfully trained
an octopus to play the piano. Now you want to
hear it, don't you? I go good one bum note
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I reckon. The fellow who did the training was a
guy called Matthias Krantz. He did it over six months.
He built a special tank with a piano for his octopus.
The octopus's name is Taco and he used crab meat
to get him to play the piano keys he wanted,
but why didn't he get him to play the Beatles
and Octopus's Garden? I know it is now nine after five.
Speaker 1 (03:30):
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Speaker 2 (03:38):
So there's a bit of noise round regarding employment disputes
at the Monaco or Urban Maori Authority. And the noise
is coming from the right wing media who claim that
the legacy media that would be me and others were
burying the story. And it wouldn't be buried if it
involved a politician from the right hand right side of
the house. Because it's all about Willie Jackson. You're unaware
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of the story. Here we go. Willie Jackson is being
accused of using his own political power to silence staff,
to sideline union organizers, and to bury a damaging review
that found misconduct by his wife, Manico Urban Mary Authority
CEO Tario Rangahui. The fact that the authority is run
by his wife has led to accusations of cronyism. Now,
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Matt mccarton got involved through his one union position and
he's outraged because he tried to go in and have
a word, but his group was issued trespassed notices and
he's outraged because Willie is a former union man himself
and a labor politician, and Matt mccarton can't believe it.
So he complained to the Speaker, Jerry Brownlee and the
leader of the Labour Party, Chris Hipkins, and had no
luck there. Hipkins said, well, it's not a matter for
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the party. It's private business, and Brownlee may say something
about it next Tuesday, but Jerry's very busy right now
with all the urgency. So anyway, Matt McCartin then ran
off to camp Slater and also to the platform and
they talked about it. And they've used it obviously to
attack Mary and to att the media. Now it's all
a bit murky. But is it a big story? Well, firstly,
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of course, nepotism is not against the law, and the
reality of many Malori organizations is that family is heavily involved.
You may not like it, so you may not approve
of it. But there we go, Maldy a bigger far no,
big onfar.
Speaker 6 (05:17):
No.
Speaker 2 (05:18):
They always have been. It's not a legal though. The
bearing of the review has also happened legally. Willie may
have pressured the board to ignore the review, but again
nothing illegal. And he may have stacked the board, but
people are stacking the boards all over the place, So
at its essence, it's the story of a workplace keeping
unions out of the workplace and a man stacking a board,
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which is a thing. However, as I've said, that's happening
in multiple workplaces all the time. This is not a
Darlene Tana story yet. And by the way, Darling Tana
was from the left and it was breafactly covered by
the legacy media. So it's nothing about whether you're left
or right. It's whether it's a story. It is a story,
but it's not a big one, and that's why the
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mainstream media haven't run with it. But they are aware
of it, and it may still expand being a much
bigger headline. So there you go. I'm negacy media and
I mentioned it, and I'll tell you what. I'll keep
following it zib twelve after five. I have so many
friends at the moment batling cancer. I have three people
I know going through chemotherapy, and there are all people
who have worked with me on news talks hemb which
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I find is shocking, but I mean it's it's what
it is. Cancer is the thing. The Cancer Control Agency
is now produced as twenty twenty five report on how
we're battling cancer, and we all want to battle it's
a terrible, terrible enemy. So how are we doing. We'll
have Nikolacomb, the chief executive for the Southern Cancer Society
on this next, It's News Talks.
Speaker 1 (06:45):
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Speaker 2 (06:57):
It's got a Raster five. Now the Cancer Control Agents
he has dropped us twenty twenty five report and they
have conclusions, and their conclusions is we need more funding
and we need earlier detection. Now reckon cancer cases will
climb from just over thirty thousand this year to more
than forty five thousand by twenty forty four, and half
of those cases, they say could be prevented if we
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cut tobacco, dial back the booze, and got serious about
healthy living and sun safety. So joining me now to
talk about this is Nicola Kerman. Nicola is the chief
executive for the Southern Cancer Society. Hello Nicoler, excuse me,
Hello Nicola.
Speaker 7 (07:35):
Good morning Andrew.
Speaker 2 (07:37):
So how do these numbers compare to other countries. Do
we have more cancer in New Zealand than other places
or is this within the international standard?
Speaker 7 (07:46):
Great question. Look to New Zealand is unfortunately leading the
way in areas that we wouldn't want to be leader in.
So in terms of melanoma, we lead the world in
rate of diagnosis around melanoma. But there's a lot of
good news in this report. There's good news, but we
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can do better. I think some of the things that
are really encouraging about this report is that our survival
rates are increasing, so that means the likelihood of someone
in New Zealand doing of cancer is declining and the
chances of them surviving grather than five years posted diagnosis
has also improved. But generally people in New Zealand are
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living longer with cancer. Yes, they are in other OECD
countries as well, But I would say that other OECD
countries that we compare ourselves to are doing far more
in the cancer prevention space than we are, and therefore
they are preventing more cancer than we are in New Zealand.
Speaker 2 (08:48):
And is that because of more funding, because you said
that in your conclusion earlier detection more funding. Are we underfunded?
Speaker 7 (08:57):
Yes, I'd say we are in key areas, and those
key areas would be around access to medicines. Look, we
had a significant increase in cancer medicines. The pharmac budget
was increased by six hundred and four million. We had
an uplift and that's resulted in more lives being saved.
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But we can't stop there and do these one off
you know. I think we've got to get into ourselves
into a position in New Zealand where we're continually investing
in cancer and in health as opposed to reactively investing.
One of the things that this report does show is
there the things we're doing in the country that is
that are working well. So let's keep doing it. Let's
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not do it as a one off or fund it
as a one off. Your screening is an example of
that and prevention.
Speaker 2 (09:51):
And that is within our own orbits and we can
do that. That's up to us taking personal responsibility. But
I need to get down to the point of what
kind of level of extra funding might we need to
help you achieve these goals.
Speaker 7 (10:03):
Well, look, I think there's three key areas that this
government could fund or the next government, and they are
the introduction of lung cancer screening. This report shows that
one of the biggest areas that we could have an
impact on is lung cancer. Your half of all cancer
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deaths are.
Speaker 2 (10:25):
From five Again, what sort of level of funding will
be needed? What's sort of money?
Speaker 7 (10:31):
So there's actually a business case going to Treasury probably
are right about now or in the next couple of
weeks to funds a lung cancer screening program. So to
establish that, we're probably talking anywhere between fifteen to twenty
million for a lung cancer to introduce a lung cancer
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screening program in New Zealand. I think the country country
knows bell cancer screening. We could say significant numbers of
lives if we started screening people for bel cancer at
age fifty. And I know the government know that. I
know they're making good steps. That's been reduced from sixty
to fifty eight already, but we've got to have a
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plan to keep producing that getting that down to fifty.
Speaker 2 (11:16):
All right, Nikola, thank you so very very much. That
is Nikola Comb from the Southern Kansas Society. And another
day to another call for funding. Hey, and on that
awkan's reeling after the random stabbing of a nice man
on a bus by a complete and crazy stranger, and
it's put the he bgb's up commuters, and it made
the news last night. It's really understandable. Of course, it's
everyone's worst fear to lose your life to a stranger
in a public place for no reason, and it's put
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people off taking a bus. Remember it could have been anywhere.
It's happened before in supermarkets in Auckland and Dunedin. And
sometimes life is random, so it's not about the buses,
it's about the crazy person. And there we had Daisie
Simpson on the news last night, or con Deputy mayor
calling for more money to support our mental health services.
And remember ideally the established had never been on our
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streets at all, but to make that happened as a
complex task and people will always fall through the cracks,
and as we're told time and time again, there's no money.
But you do have to ask a question where the
better mental health services? Yeah, is not something that we
need to skip on. It's a need to have, isn't
it not a nice to have? Five twenty get ahead.
Speaker 1 (12:18):
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Speaker 2 (12:28):
It is five twenty two. Could the worst of the
brain train be over? Are we actually a nice place
to live? Are people wanting to stay? And are people coming?
Speaker 5 (12:34):
Well?
Speaker 2 (12:35):
Stat's New Zealand figures for October so the migrant arrivals
were up seven percent on last year, migrant departures down
fourteen percent. People are coming and people are staying. The
monthly net migration gain was three thy six hundred compared
to a gain of sixteen hundred in September. So em
emeritus professor and Massa University sociologist Paul Soon Paul Spoonley,
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excuse me, joins me this morning. Going to you, Paul,
is that it is at the end of their brain
drain at.
Speaker 8 (13:05):
Good morning, andrews. Yes, we've turned a bit of a corner,
it appears, so I'm optimistic that we're beginning to see
it plateauing, if not turning around.
Speaker 2 (13:14):
Okay, so first let's look at the migrant arrivals up
seven percent. Where are these people coming from and why
are they coming?
Speaker 8 (13:21):
The big three countries are India, China, and the Philippines
in that order. Indian arrivals tend to dominate most feasic categories.
I would say one thing about the Chinese arrivals, and
that is for every two Chinese that come to New Zealand,
one returns to China. So that's not quite the turnaround
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for some of the other groups. The Filipinos are big
and we certainly have seen them arrive in numbers in
the last decade. There is one very interesting bit to
all of this, and that is that in terms of
UK migrants, we're seeing more leaves than arrive.
Speaker 2 (14:00):
Okay, so let's go to the migrant departures. The people
running away from this place down fourteen percent. So does
this mean that they can see better times around the corner?
Speaker 9 (14:11):
Yeah?
Speaker 8 (14:11):
I think so. I think so. There is a butt
Andrew and the but is the New Zealanders. So we're
still seeing more than seventy thousand New Zealanders leave on
a twelve month cycle, and that loss is still hanging
around that forty five thousand mark. So the pull of
Australia is still very very strong. But in terms of
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migrants non New Zealand migrant departures. That's looking a bit healthier.
Speaker 2 (14:42):
Well, a bit of good news for this Thursday morning,
and I thank you so much, Professor Paul Spinley. This
is News Talk Set B five twenty.
Speaker 1 (14:49):
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Me, said B five twenty seven. I'mandrew Dickens. You know,
the story that's been getting my goat all this week
has been the accusation that New Zealanders take too long
a holiday over the Christmas January period. And this story
just keeps on burbling along. It started on the weekend.
We've got business owners and economists, Simon Bridges and talk
back callers all alleging that the country closes down for
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the month and it kills our productivity. But you know,
there's absolutely no proof of that, and all these allegations
seem a little better than reckens. And let's remember the
rest of the Christian world are also off for Christmas
New Year, so we're not losing competitiveness over that week.
I'll be now. And of course, remember the northern Hemisphere
closes down for August while we're here working our butts off.
(15:36):
Maybe some of the people moaning about the summer break
have lost track of the reality for most New Zealand workers.
For most of us, the military minimum statuary leave for
most New Zealanders is just four weeks after a year
of employment, twenty precious days that we then have to
eke out over twelve months. There are four big school
holiday periods parents need to think about that need to
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take a break. For most New Zealanders, a big summer
holiday might last until the second week of January, and
that's it. And the longer you take over some of
the longer you have to work over the rest of
the year. Only a very few people casually skive off
for January, the people who have successful businesses, who have
managers in place, the semi retired, and all those superstars
whose success during the year grants them privilege. And I'm
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looking at you, Mike Costking and the other group of
the lawyers. Partly because the courts closed down now while
judges have nice summer holidays that only allowed a weekened
spring during the rest of the year, so the lawyers
can't work, so they bugger off to their beautiful batches.
And that's why lawyers were the most concerned at the
dropping of the new resource management system this week because
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there's a six week submission period and that means the
lawyers are going to have to work all summer like
the rest of us. That's why they're grumpy. Five twenty nine.
In the next half hour, we're going to talk about
the social media band in Australia and whether it's time
to do it now in New Zealand. We're going to
talk to a feller from ACT who's driving along the
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possible legislation and Nicholas Reckins, we are way too woke
for a social ban for kids and simply do not
have the OZ guts in any way. So you saw
what happened with Australia and you've had a day or
so to actually digest it, do you think the same
thing should happen here? Yesterday when we were talking about
a lot of people were saying, well, the best thing
(17:23):
about it is it gives parents a tool saying get
off to social media. You know it's illegal, and that's
actually the best way to police it. So what do
you think you can text me ninety two naughty to
do so that Mitch me can and all our correspondents
from right around New Zealand on Early edition with News Talk.
Speaker 1 (17:39):
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Speaker 2 (18:09):
The world and be the extended family. Here comes Christmas
is at my place this year again. That's gonna be
a big day of work. It's twenty three to six
and I'm Andrew Dickens, social media band in New Zealand.
What do you reckon? We're going to talk to palms
Eat Palma from Act about it and she's got some
thoughts about the whole thing. I asked you, what's your thoughts?
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Textas says, I don't believe we should introduce a social
media ban in this country. It's not up to this
government to raise our kids. Parents need to take accountability
and stop being lazy. And then what's happening after that?
You know, one step after another, little by little, bit
by bit doesn't mean a digital ID will they be
praying on all of us? So thank you for your
text and my text. It's the parent's job to not
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buy kids a smartphot and to turn the Wi Fi
off at home. So palms heat to palma on this
a little bit later on, the whole cancers thing is
a thing, and as I said, four three of my
very closest friends are actually having a battle against it.
Almost all of them had went straight to stage four
once they found that they did have the cancer. Yes,
they could have actually checked earlier, but actually no, that's
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not right. Two of them found it because of a
regular check, and that's a breast cancer. And most famously,
my friend Mel, you probably know Mel, who one day
was at a pilates class, had a blood test. Next
day she's in hospital getting chemo for leukemia. And the
thing about that is it's curable, but it's curable with
stem cell therapy. And the thing about stem cell therapy
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is it's very expensive and so it's somewhat rationed. So
the longer she has to wait for funding to get
the stem cell therapy means another session of chemotherapy that
she has to go through, another session of being in
the hospital, more money being spent.
Speaker 1 (19:51):
There.
Speaker 2 (19:53):
You wonder whether it's a false economy, don't you? It
is twenty one to six. Well, the country we go
Callen Procter joins us from Otaga. Good morning morning Andrew.
You go to warning for Otago boaties, Yeah, look we do.
Speaker 10 (20:09):
They could soon be navigating some new safety rules as
a fresh by law that's been proposed to regulate vessel
movements and speed limits across our waterways and Otago, So
that includes the Busy Lakes, Dunston, Warnaka and Hawia's. The
key changes include new anchoring rules, a mandatory automatic ID
tracking system for commercial vehicles with twelve or more passengers,
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and all vessels over fifteen meters. Harbourmaster Steve Rushbrooks told
us that most of these existing or most of the
existing by law will remain with just a few important
additions and submissions are open now on this through until
jan twelve.
Speaker 2 (20:45):
How's your weather?
Speaker 10 (20:47):
Some heavy afternoon showers with thunderstorms and hail expected today
seventeen the high and I thank you.
Speaker 2 (20:52):
Jamie Cunningham joins me now from Canterbury. Hello Jamie, good morning,
and we've got business confidence figures out.
Speaker 11 (20:59):
Yes, so Business Canterbury's latest survey shows seventy five percent
of businesses are expecting stronger economic conditions and improved financial
performance next year. However, confidence in the ability to bounce
back from disruption is slipping away. Chief executive Leanne Watson
says it's been a tough five years for business, with
debt mounting and growing concerns about AI. She says the
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business community needs certainty, consistency and conditions to help turn
confidence into productivity. Watson says if the cost of living
comes down, there will hopefully be more certainty in the year.
Speaker 2 (21:31):
Acute, how's your weather?
Speaker 11 (21:34):
Becoming partly cloudy in the morning, then showers developing in
the evening, some heavy with thunderstorms and hail possible as
well in a high of nineteen And.
Speaker 2 (21:42):
To Wellington we go, Max Tol, Good morning to you.
Speaker 12 (21:44):
Good morning.
Speaker 2 (21:45):
I think we should start actually with your weather because
it's day two of the test and it was an
interesting day yesterday. What's your weather like?
Speaker 12 (21:51):
Yeah, you'd have to have said it was perfect barring
one very unfortunate injury. Mainly find today pretty much the
same as yesterday with some later SOUTHERLYASA getting up into
the twenties again.
Speaker 2 (22:02):
Come on, New Zealand. Now you've got a couple of
locals being honored at Victoria Universally today.
Speaker 12 (22:07):
Yeah, two alumni being presented with honorary doctorates. That's a
business leader Dame Theresa Gathing and the legal luminary Sir
David Carruthers being honored for their contributions in their respective fields.
A Gathing, of course, previously CEO Telecom co founded My
Food Bag, but is specifically being praised for her push
for social equity. She's founded a lot of nonprofits worked
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with the SPCA as well. In terms of her business credentials,
they hardly need stating she once made Fortune's fifty Most
Powerful Women in World Business list at one time. Caruthers
himself will be awarded a Doctor of Law for his
long serving career stints as a Family and Youth Court
judge in Wellington at one point as well the longest
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serving member of the New Zealand legal community. Carruthers also
has been the chair of the IPCA and the Parole Board.
Speaker 2 (22:57):
Great stuff and congratulations to all, and I thank you
would neither written. Man who joins us from Auckland High
Good morning. So new insights gained after the death of
a man at Murduway Beach.
Speaker 13 (23:06):
Yes, now look this happened earlier this year. You remember this,
Sandre and it brought attention to a danger not immediately
obvious to some beach goers. So twenty eight year old
Caine Gofton, also referred to as Cane Watson and previous
reporting now he died in hospital back in August, two
days after a sand dune collapsed on him while he
was digging a hole. So a coroner has come out
and has found that Gofton died from complications of cardiaca
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rescue to entrapment and asphyxia. They've found that, look, the
twenty eight year old's own actions ultimately led to his death,
so there's no evidence that actions or inactions of others
could have changed the outcome. But the coroner is saying
to everyone, look, heading into summer, obviously everyone's going to
go to the beach, and it's important that everyone's aware
of the risks of sand dunes, which you know, they
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can become unstable without water.
Speaker 2 (23:51):
Of course, of course, no tunneling, kids, no tunneling.
Speaker 13 (23:54):
Exactly.
Speaker 2 (23:55):
How's the weather fine?
Speaker 13 (23:56):
Apart from morning cloud charts of an afternoon shower, still warm, hot, hot,
hot twenty six and.
Speaker 2 (24:00):
I thank you. Meanwhile, in Sydney, their new Sydney Plan
is out and they say that there's going to be
six and a half million people living in Sydney by
twenty forty five. Now that's up by one point two
million from how many live there right now, what is
it five point seven on? So how are they going
to cope? The new Draft Sydney Plan is out and
its strategy to cope with these extra one point two
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million people is to organize the fast growing population around
forty interconnected centers to provide the most jobs and services.
They'll be spread across the city, anchored by Sydney and
Paramatta CBDs, also the emerging city of Bradfield, which is
out by the new Western Sydney Airport. But the thing is,
yeah that what they're saying is intensify around transport harbs.
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Sound familiar, That's exactly what all comes doing. It is
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Good morning to you, Andrew, Good morning, how are you well.
Speaker 2 (25:58):
John Trump did a rally overnight in Mount Pecono, Pennsylvania
for ninety minutes, and he tried to convince the people
that the economy is okay.
Speaker 5 (26:10):
Yeah, that's right. Donald Trump traveled there.
Speaker 4 (26:12):
I tried to tout the success of the economy at
the moment, he's trying to convince Americans that things are
perhaps better than they might seem to be. And this
is the first of a series of rallies that Donald
Trump's going to be doing across the United States. And
part of it is also because Donald Trump has been
accused of spending too much time dealing with overseas conflicts
than the cost of living here in the United States. Now,
(26:33):
like all his speeches, he wandered across a range of topics.
During ninety minutes, he moved away from the teleprompter and
talked about all different things. It has to be said, Andrew,
the stock market has been soaring here in the US,
and we are seeing complete tariff chaos, chaos yet that
Americans are still feeling the pinch of the cost of living.
Speaker 5 (26:51):
There's a new pole from Gallup that's come out in
the last couple of days.
Speaker 4 (26:54):
Twenty one percent of Americans described economic conditions as excellent
or good.
Speaker 5 (26:58):
That's not a high number saying they are poor.
Speaker 4 (27:02):
So Donald Trump has this difficult task now trying to
get convince people, you know, his own supporters that things
are better than they might seem to be exactly.
Speaker 2 (27:10):
And I saw in that poll also fifty five percent
of Americans blame the Trump administration for the high prices
at the grocery store. So it's not a cover for
him yet, but it's certainly getting to be a pain
in the bum.
Speaker 4 (27:23):
Right.
Speaker 2 (27:23):
We have new plans in America to scrutinize visitors social media.
Speaker 5 (27:29):
Yeah, that's right, Andrew. This is a story that could
affect New Zealanders coming to the United States. A massive change.
Speaker 4 (27:35):
Customs and Border Protection here in the US has requested
feedback on a new proposal that would see travelers from
visa waiver countries like New Zealand's undergo a review of
their social media for up to five years. Now, if
you visit the US currently as a traveler, you can
apply for what's called in esther and many of our
listeners will have done that before.
Speaker 5 (27:55):
It's basic information you have to provide.
Speaker 4 (27:57):
This may require you to provide social media and the
nation for the last five years.
Speaker 5 (28:02):
So a massive change is the US cracks down on immigration,
and I thank you, Mitch mcchannon.
Speaker 2 (28:07):
That's only going to make things even more even more
time delays getting into the States, it's eleven.
Speaker 1 (28:12):
To six youth dogs'd be so in the wake.
Speaker 2 (28:15):
Of Australia booting under sixteens off social media, our own
government's Education and Workforce Committee has dropped its interim report
on youth online harm and it's recommended cross party support
on a potential age ban here and the creation of
a new online regulator. So Dr Palmjek Palmer represents Act
(28:36):
on that committee, the Education and Workforce Committee, and Palmjeek
joins me, now, hello, hello, So are you in support
of the age band?
Speaker 9 (28:45):
So what I would say is that you will see
that we have a differing view in the report. And
the reason for the different view is that we felt
as the parties are the parties that is National and
Labor are getting ahead of themselves because there is more
work that needs to be and so what we saw
was that they were already jumping to policy recommendations talking
(29:06):
about the band.
Speaker 2 (29:07):
So what work needs to be done? Do we need
to be just sitting back and just watching whether the
Australian thing works?
Speaker 9 (29:17):
So definitely, I would say to my parliamentary colleague that
we need to take a deep breath. We should watch
the role out of this policy in Australia because this
is a natural experiment happening and we had this great
opportunity to learn from them in real time. So we
should not be rushing for a policy of ban because
(29:37):
in my view, it would be kind of irresponsible for
us to do that because we can learn from Australia.
And also already I'm seeing some reports in media about
young people trying to get around the band. So the
ultimate goal is to reduce harm, but with what is happening,
we know that we will be pushing young people into unregulated,
harder to monitor, darker spaces of Internet, so there will
(30:01):
be more suffering, suffering, more suffering and more secretly.
Speaker 2 (30:04):
So in that case, you need an online regulator, and
that's been proposed in this report. So what would an
online regulator do?
Speaker 9 (30:12):
So the idea of this report was actually to summarize
what we have heard and also summarized the advice. So
the idea of this report and trim Report was not
to provide any solutions or recommendations, and that is what
our concern is. So we need to do more work
in the Select Committee to ensure that we come to
right kind of conclusions. And if you asked me, I
(30:34):
trust then as a solution at this stage what I'm
seeing in Australia, my response will be now and we
need to understand more what this regulator would do, because
we need to understand what the powers of this regulator
will be. So what I'm saying is that at this
stage we needed to actually just summarize submissions and summarize advice.
(30:56):
But seeing that some parties have jumped to policy recommendations,
actually that compromise.
Speaker 2 (31:02):
Okay, yeah, exactly, Can I just summarize? Can I just
summarize it? Therefore that you and act say, ty Hoe,
let's have a look at what's happening, and you don't rush.
But you're saying that National and Labor they're they're rushing
in fact too quickly because they feel it's a positive thing.
It's a good vote killer, vote win.
Speaker 9 (31:19):
So our concern is this that the ultimate goal of
this inquiry was to provide some kind of solutions. So
if we identify some risks, we have to come up
with solutions. Just like cars, we know they're dangerous, we
need seed bets, we need road rules, so we need
to do something, but that doesn't mean we jump to
this conclusion of a pen or a regulator. That was
not the purpose of this report. So you'll remember that
(31:40):
when I wrote to the Selectimitty, the plan was to
provide a report in November, and then the Selecumity realizes
it's actually a bigger task than it was imagined, and
that's why this support is split into two parts. The
first part was about submissions and advice, not jumping to
policy recommendations without getting proper advice on solutions and recommendations
(32:01):
and how they would work.
Speaker 2 (32:02):
Ange I thank you Panji Parma as the exposperson who's
on that committee, and says tie home of it. Scott
writes many adults do not know how to use social
media safely and appropriately.
Speaker 12 (32:13):
Either.
Speaker 2 (32:14):
The focus should be on education, as this is something
that's not going to go away. Teach our children, they
are our future, says Scott. It's now seven minutes to.
Speaker 1 (32:22):
Six views and views you trust to start your day.
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Speaker 2 (32:34):
I'd be mentioned earlier. The Christmas is at mine, and
Taylor writes, how many people at yours? Andrew and I've
done a bit of a total. I think about twenty five.
Taylor writes, my partner and I host this year forty
two people.
Speaker 5 (32:46):
Too many?
Speaker 2 (32:47):
A good morning, I know, forty two people. There's so
much work out on a Christmas Day.
Speaker 5 (32:53):
Yeah, it is.
Speaker 14 (32:53):
And this is the thing is that that actually doing
christ like hosting anybody, is actually really tough work because
you've got to get every thing prepared, You've got the
mental load of it. Then you're actually doing it. You're
the host, You're not getting to sit down, and then
after they all leave, you the one cleaning up.
Speaker 2 (33:06):
How many times have you actually hosted a party and
then you realize you've not drunk anything or eaten anything
because you've been too busy tiding everything.
Speaker 14 (33:12):
Absolutely so many times.
Speaker 8 (33:13):
I see.
Speaker 14 (33:13):
My family is really good about it because I've got
the youngest kids in the family, so we don't we
don't have to host.
Speaker 2 (33:19):
And my mom is awesome.
Speaker 14 (33:20):
She comes around, just does all the stuff to help
me out.
Speaker 2 (33:22):
So I love your mom you you, I do love
your mon No, my mom, I know your mam, and
I do love it. And the other hour of the
problem is that Helen's side of the family, she's the
youngest of seven. Yeah, oh wow, so that's how you
end up with forty two. You know, it's a lot
of people, far too many people.
Speaker 9 (33:38):
People.
Speaker 2 (33:39):
Nicola Willis is attacking the banks and is that a
diversion because everybody is attacking Nicholas n.
Speaker 14 (33:44):
No, Nicola Willis loves attacking the banks because it makes
her look, makes it look relatable, right, like she understands
our pain. Yeah, it's a good move from her. But anyway,
we're going to be talking about the social media thing
in New Zealand, seeing whether we're going to follow Australia today.
Speaker 2 (33:56):
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you In five Immigrants wanting to live in New Zealand,
We're up seven percent last month, while departures were down
fourteen percent. So are we looking better and better in
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the world's size? Hey, and what's happening with the brain train?
Paul Spoonley talks to us in ten Are we really
losing business because of our summer holidays? And while Australia
has done it, is it our turn for a social
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Speaker 1 (01:00):
The agenda.
Speaker 2 (01:02):
So it's seven minutes half to five. It's Thursday, the
eleventh of December, and Ukraine is expected to hand over
its revised peace plan to the US negotiators today.
Speaker 3 (01:12):
President Lansky has given some broader details. What we know
is that there's more than one document. There's the sort
of main peace proposal, which we think has been whittled
down to about twenty points. There's a document concerning security guarantees,
and there's one on the reconstruction and sort of restoring
the economic potential of Ukraine.
Speaker 2 (01:31):
Now, Donald Trump's return to doing rallies again, this time
in Pennsylvania over the night, where he tried to convince
people that the American economy is just fantastic. It's brilliant,
It's never been better. And he fired shots at the Dems.
Speaker 4 (01:44):
They caused the high prices, and we're bringing them down.
Speaker 5 (01:47):
It's a simple message. They have a new word, you know,
those have a hoax. The new word is affordability.
Speaker 4 (01:52):
So they look at the camera and they say, this
erection is all about affordability.
Speaker 2 (01:58):
All right, I will talk to Mitch mccaenn about this
in about half an hour's time. The daughter of this
year's Nobel Peace Prize winner, Maria Corina Machado, has stepped
in to accept the award on her mum's behalf now.
The Institute praised Machado for her fight to ship Venezuela
from a dictatorship to a democracy, and she's actually been
(02:19):
in hiding since the country's disputed twenty twenty four election,
which is why the daughter stood up.
Speaker 6 (02:25):
But although she has not been able to be here
and take part in this ceremony, I must say that
my mother never breaks a promise, and that is why,
with all the joy in my heart, I can tell
you that in just a few hours we will be
able to embrace her here in Oslo after sixteen months
(02:47):
living in.
Speaker 2 (02:48):
Here, and finally, a man in Sweden has successfully trained
an octopus to play the piano. Now you want to
hear it, don't you? I go good one bum note
(03:11):
I reckon. The fellow who did the training was a
guy called Matthias Krantz. He did it over six months.
He built a special tank with a piano for his octopus.
The octopus's name is Taco and he used crab meat
to get him to play the piano keys he wanted,
but why didn't he get him to play the Beatles
and Octopus's Garden? I know it is now nine after five.
Speaker 1 (03:30):
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it'd be.
Speaker 2 (03:38):
So there's a bit of noise round regarding employment disputes
at the Monaco or Urban Maori Authority. And the noise
is coming from the right wing media who claim that
the legacy media that would be me and others were
burying the story. And it wouldn't be buried if it
involved a politician from the right hand right side of
the house. Because it's all about Willie Jackson. You're unaware
(04:00):
of the story. Here we go. Willie Jackson is being
accused of using his own political power to silence staff,
to sideline union organizers, and to bury a damaging review
that found misconduct by his wife, Manico Urban Mary Authority
CEO Tario Rangahui. The fact that the authority is run
by his wife has led to accusations of cronyism. Now,
(04:22):
Matt mccarton got involved through his one union position and
he's outraged because he tried to go in and have
a word, but his group was issued trespassed notices and
he's outraged because Willie is a former union man himself
and a labor politician, and Matt mccarton can't believe it.
So he complained to the Speaker, Jerry Brownlee and the
leader of the Labour Party, Chris Hipkins, and had no
luck there. Hipkins said, well, it's not a matter for
(04:45):
the party. It's private business, and Brownlee may say something
about it next Tuesday, but Jerry's very busy right now
with all the urgency. So anyway, Matt McCartin then ran
off to camp Slater and also to the platform and
they talked about it. And they've used it obviously to
attack Mary and to att the media. Now it's all
a bit murky. But is it a big story? Well, firstly,
(05:06):
of course, nepotism is not against the law, and the
reality of many Malori organizations is that family is heavily involved.
You may not like it, so you may not approve
of it. But there we go, Maldy a bigger far no,
big onfar.
Speaker 6 (05:17):
No.
Speaker 2 (05:18):
They always have been. It's not a legal though. The
bearing of the review has also happened legally. Willie may
have pressured the board to ignore the review, but again
nothing illegal. And he may have stacked the board, but
people are stacking the boards all over the place, So
at its essence, it's the story of a workplace keeping
unions out of the workplace and a man stacking a board,
(05:41):
which is a thing. However, as I've said, that's happening
in multiple workplaces all the time. This is not a
Darlene Tana story yet. And by the way, Darling Tana
was from the left and it was breafactly covered by
the legacy media. So it's nothing about whether you're left
or right. It's whether it's a story. It is a story,
but it's not a big one, and that's why the
(06:02):
mainstream media haven't run with it. But they are aware
of it, and it may still expand being a much
bigger headline. So there you go. I'm negacy media and
I mentioned it, and I'll tell you what. I'll keep
following it zib twelve after five. I have so many
friends at the moment batling cancer. I have three people
I know going through chemotherapy, and there are all people
who have worked with me on news talks hemb which
(06:25):
I find is shocking, but I mean it's it's what
it is. Cancer is the thing. The Cancer Control Agency
is now produced as twenty twenty five report on how
we're battling cancer, and we all want to battle it's
a terrible, terrible enemy. So how are we doing. We'll
have Nikolacomb, the chief executive for the Southern Cancer Society
on this next, It's News Talks.
Speaker 1 (06:45):
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Speaker 2 (06:57):
It's got a Raster five. Now the Cancer Control Agents
he has dropped us twenty twenty five report and they
have conclusions, and their conclusions is we need more funding
and we need earlier detection. Now reckon cancer cases will
climb from just over thirty thousand this year to more
than forty five thousand by twenty forty four, and half
of those cases, they say could be prevented if we
(07:18):
cut tobacco, dial back the booze, and got serious about
healthy living and sun safety. So joining me now to
talk about this is Nicola Kerman. Nicola is the chief
executive for the Southern Cancer Society. Hello Nicoler, excuse me,
Hello Nicola.
Speaker 7 (07:35):
Good morning Andrew.
Speaker 2 (07:37):
So how do these numbers compare to other countries. Do
we have more cancer in New Zealand than other places
or is this within the international standard?
Speaker 7 (07:46):
Great question. Look to New Zealand is unfortunately leading the
way in areas that we wouldn't want to be leader in.
So in terms of melanoma, we lead the world in
rate of diagnosis around melanoma. But there's a lot of
good news in this report. There's good news, but we
(08:07):
can do better. I think some of the things that
are really encouraging about this report is that our survival
rates are increasing, so that means the likelihood of someone
in New Zealand doing of cancer is declining and the
chances of them surviving grather than five years posted diagnosis
has also improved. But generally people in New Zealand are
(08:29):
living longer with cancer. Yes, they are in other OECD
countries as well, But I would say that other OECD
countries that we compare ourselves to are doing far more
in the cancer prevention space than we are, and therefore
they are preventing more cancer than we are in New Zealand.
Speaker 2 (08:48):
And is that because of more funding, because you said
that in your conclusion earlier detection more funding. Are we underfunded?
Speaker 7 (08:57):
Yes, I'd say we are in key areas, and those
key areas would be around access to medicines. Look, we
had a significant increase in cancer medicines. The pharmac budget
was increased by six hundred and four million. We had
an uplift and that's resulted in more lives being saved.
(09:17):
But we can't stop there and do these one off
you know. I think we've got to get into ourselves
into a position in New Zealand where we're continually investing
in cancer and in health as opposed to reactively investing.
One of the things that this report does show is
there the things we're doing in the country that is
that are working well. So let's keep doing it. Let's
(09:42):
not do it as a one off or fund it
as a one off. Your screening is an example of
that and prevention.
Speaker 2 (09:51):
And that is within our own orbits and we can
do that. That's up to us taking personal responsibility. But
I need to get down to the point of what
kind of level of extra funding might we need to
help you achieve these goals.
Speaker 7 (10:03):
Well, look, I think there's three key areas that this
government could fund or the next government, and they are
the introduction of lung cancer screening. This report shows that
one of the biggest areas that we could have an
impact on is lung cancer. Your half of all cancer
(10:24):
deaths are.
Speaker 2 (10:25):
From five Again, what sort of level of funding will
be needed? What's sort of money?
Speaker 7 (10:31):
So there's actually a business case going to Treasury probably
are right about now or in the next couple of
weeks to funds a lung cancer screening program. So to
establish that, we're probably talking anywhere between fifteen to twenty
million for a lung cancer to introduce a lung cancer
(10:52):
screening program in New Zealand. I think the country country
knows bell cancer screening. We could say significant numbers of
lives if we started screening people for bel cancer at
age fifty. And I know the government know that. I
know they're making good steps. That's been reduced from sixty
to fifty eight already, but we've got to have a
(11:13):
plan to keep producing that getting that down to fifty.
Speaker 2 (11:16):
All right, Nikola, thank you so very very much. That
is Nikola Comb from the Southern Kansas Society. And another
day to another call for funding. Hey, and on that
awkan's reeling after the random stabbing of a nice man
on a bus by a complete and crazy stranger, and
it's put the he bgb's up commuters, and it made
the news last night. It's really understandable. Of course, it's
everyone's worst fear to lose your life to a stranger
in a public place for no reason, and it's put
(11:38):
people off taking a bus. Remember it could have been anywhere.
It's happened before in supermarkets in Auckland and Dunedin. And
sometimes life is random, so it's not about the buses,
it's about the crazy person. And there we had Daisie
Simpson on the news last night, or con Deputy mayor
calling for more money to support our mental health services.
And remember ideally the established had never been on our
(11:59):
streets at all, but to make that happened as a
complex task and people will always fall through the cracks,
and as we're told time and time again, there's no money.
But you do have to ask a question where the
better mental health services? Yeah, is not something that we
need to skip on. It's a need to have, isn't
it not a nice to have? Five twenty get ahead.
Speaker 1 (12:18):
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Speaker 2 (12:28):
It is five twenty two. Could the worst of the
brain train be over? Are we actually a nice place
to live? Are people wanting to stay? And are people coming?
Speaker 5 (12:34):
Well?
Speaker 2 (12:35):
Stat's New Zealand figures for October so the migrant arrivals
were up seven percent on last year, migrant departures down
fourteen percent. People are coming and people are staying. The
monthly net migration gain was three thy six hundred compared
to a gain of sixteen hundred in September. So em
emeritus professor and Massa University sociologist Paul Soon Paul Spoonley,
(12:58):
excuse me, joins me this morning. Going to you, Paul,
is that it is at the end of their brain
drain at.
Speaker 8 (13:05):
Good morning, andrews. Yes, we've turned a bit of a corner,
it appears, so I'm optimistic that we're beginning to see
it plateauing, if not turning around.
Speaker 2 (13:14):
Okay, so first let's look at the migrant arrivals up
seven percent. Where are these people coming from and why
are they coming?
Speaker 8 (13:21):
The big three countries are India, China, and the Philippines
in that order. Indian arrivals tend to dominate most feasic categories.
I would say one thing about the Chinese arrivals, and
that is for every two Chinese that come to New Zealand,
one returns to China. So that's not quite the turnaround
(13:42):
for some of the other groups. The Filipinos are big
and we certainly have seen them arrive in numbers in
the last decade. There is one very interesting bit to
all of this, and that is that in terms of
UK migrants, we're seeing more leaves than arrive.
Speaker 2 (14:00):
Okay, so let's go to the migrant departures. The people
running away from this place down fourteen percent. So does
this mean that they can see better times around the corner?
Speaker 9 (14:11):
Yeah?
Speaker 8 (14:11):
I think so. I think so. There is a butt
Andrew and the but is the New Zealanders. So we're
still seeing more than seventy thousand New Zealanders leave on
a twelve month cycle, and that loss is still hanging
around that forty five thousand mark. So the pull of
Australia is still very very strong. But in terms of
(14:34):
migrants non New Zealand migrant departures. That's looking a bit healthier.
Speaker 2 (14:42):
Well, a bit of good news for this Thursday morning,
and I thank you so much, Professor Paul Spinley. This
is News Talk Set B five twenty.
Speaker 1 (14:49):
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Me, said B five twenty seven. I'mandrew Dickens. You know,
the story that's been getting my goat all this week
has been the accusation that New Zealanders take too long
a holiday over the Christmas January period. And this story
just keeps on burbling along. It started on the weekend.
We've got business owners and economists, Simon Bridges and talk
back callers all alleging that the country closes down for
(15:15):
the month and it kills our productivity. But you know,
there's absolutely no proof of that, and all these allegations
seem a little better than reckens. And let's remember the
rest of the Christian world are also off for Christmas
New Year, so we're not losing competitiveness over that week.
I'll be now. And of course, remember the northern Hemisphere
closes down for August while we're here working our butts off.
(15:36):
Maybe some of the people moaning about the summer break
have lost track of the reality for most New Zealand workers.
For most of us, the military minimum statuary leave for
most New Zealanders is just four weeks after a year
of employment, twenty precious days that we then have to
eke out over twelve months. There are four big school
holiday periods parents need to think about that need to
(15:56):
take a break. For most New Zealanders, a big summer
holiday might last until the second week of January, and
that's it. And the longer you take over some of
the longer you have to work over the rest of
the year. Only a very few people casually skive off
for January, the people who have successful businesses, who have
managers in place, the semi retired, and all those superstars
whose success during the year grants them privilege. And I'm
(16:19):
looking at you, Mike Costking and the other group of
the lawyers. Partly because the courts closed down now while
judges have nice summer holidays that only allowed a weekened
spring during the rest of the year, so the lawyers
can't work, so they bugger off to their beautiful batches.
And that's why lawyers were the most concerned at the
dropping of the new resource management system this week because
(16:41):
there's a six week submission period and that means the
lawyers are going to have to work all summer like
the rest of us. That's why they're grumpy. Five twenty nine.
In the next half hour, we're going to talk about
the social media band in Australia and whether it's time
to do it now in New Zealand. We're going to
talk to a feller from ACT who's driving along the
(17:01):
possible legislation and Nicholas Reckins, we are way too woke
for a social ban for kids and simply do not
have the OZ guts in any way. So you saw
what happened with Australia and you've had a day or
so to actually digest it, do you think the same
thing should happen here? Yesterday when we were talking about
a lot of people were saying, well, the best thing
(17:23):
about it is it gives parents a tool saying get
off to social media. You know it's illegal, and that's
actually the best way to police it. So what do
you think you can text me ninety two naughty to
do so that Mitch me can and all our correspondents
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Speaker 2 (18:09):
The world and be the extended family. Here comes Christmas
is at my place this year again. That's gonna be
a big day of work. It's twenty three to six
and I'm Andrew Dickens, social media band in New Zealand.
What do you reckon? We're going to talk to palms
Eat Palma from Act about it and she's got some
thoughts about the whole thing. I asked you, what's your thoughts?
(18:29):
Textas says, I don't believe we should introduce a social
media ban in this country. It's not up to this
government to raise our kids. Parents need to take accountability
and stop being lazy. And then what's happening after that?
You know, one step after another, little by little, bit
by bit doesn't mean a digital ID will they be
praying on all of us? So thank you for your
text and my text. It's the parent's job to not
(18:50):
buy kids a smartphot and to turn the Wi Fi
off at home. So palms heat to palma on this
a little bit later on, the whole cancers thing is
a thing, and as I said, four three of my
very closest friends are actually having a battle against it.
Almost all of them had went straight to stage four
once they found that they did have the cancer. Yes,
they could have actually checked earlier, but actually no, that's
(19:13):
not right. Two of them found it because of a
regular check, and that's a breast cancer. And most famously,
my friend Mel, you probably know Mel, who one day
was at a pilates class, had a blood test. Next
day she's in hospital getting chemo for leukemia. And the
thing about that is it's curable, but it's curable with
stem cell therapy. And the thing about stem cell therapy
(19:37):
is it's very expensive and so it's somewhat rationed. So
the longer she has to wait for funding to get
the stem cell therapy means another session of chemotherapy that
she has to go through, another session of being in
the hospital, more money being spent.
Speaker 1 (19:51):
There.
Speaker 2 (19:53):
You wonder whether it's a false economy, don't you? It
is twenty one to six. Well, the country we go
Callen Procter joins us from Otaga. Good morning morning Andrew.
You go to warning for Otago boaties, Yeah, look we do.
Speaker 10 (20:09):
They could soon be navigating some new safety rules as
a fresh by law that's been proposed to regulate vessel
movements and speed limits across our waterways and Otago, So
that includes the Busy Lakes, Dunston, Warnaka and Hawia's. The
key changes include new anchoring rules, a mandatory automatic ID
tracking system for commercial vehicles with twelve or more passengers,
(20:32):
and all vessels over fifteen meters. Harbourmaster Steve Rushbrooks told
us that most of these existing or most of the
existing by law will remain with just a few important
additions and submissions are open now on this through until
jan twelve.
Speaker 2 (20:45):
How's your weather?
Speaker 10 (20:47):
Some heavy afternoon showers with thunderstorms and hail expected today
seventeen the high and I thank you.
Speaker 2 (20:52):
Jamie Cunningham joins me now from Canterbury. Hello Jamie, good morning,
and we've got business confidence figures out.
Speaker 11 (20:59):
Yes, so Business Canterbury's latest survey shows seventy five percent
of businesses are expecting stronger economic conditions and improved financial
performance next year. However, confidence in the ability to bounce
back from disruption is slipping away. Chief executive Leanne Watson
says it's been a tough five years for business, with
debt mounting and growing concerns about AI. She says the
(21:20):
business community needs certainty, consistency and conditions to help turn
confidence into productivity. Watson says if the cost of living
comes down, there will hopefully be more certainty in the year.
Speaker 2 (21:31):
Acute, how's your weather?
Speaker 11 (21:34):
Becoming partly cloudy in the morning, then showers developing in
the evening, some heavy with thunderstorms and hail possible as
well in a high of nineteen And.
Speaker 2 (21:42):
To Wellington we go, Max Tol, Good morning to you.
Speaker 12 (21:44):
Good morning.
Speaker 2 (21:45):
I think we should start actually with your weather because
it's day two of the test and it was an
interesting day yesterday. What's your weather like?
Speaker 12 (21:51):
Yeah, you'd have to have said it was perfect barring
one very unfortunate injury. Mainly find today pretty much the
same as yesterday with some later SOUTHERLYASA getting up into
the twenties again.
Speaker 2 (22:02):
Come on, New Zealand. Now you've got a couple of
locals being honored at Victoria Universally today.
Speaker 12 (22:07):
Yeah, two alumni being presented with honorary doctorates. That's a
business leader Dame Theresa Gathing and the legal luminary Sir
David Carruthers being honored for their contributions in their respective fields.
A Gathing, of course, previously CEO Telecom co founded My
Food Bag, but is specifically being praised for her push
for social equity. She's founded a lot of nonprofits worked
(22:30):
with the SPCA as well. In terms of her business credentials,
they hardly need stating she once made Fortune's fifty Most
Powerful Women in World Business list at one time. Caruthers
himself will be awarded a Doctor of Law for his
long serving career stints as a Family and Youth Court
judge in Wellington at one point as well the longest
(22:51):
serving member of the New Zealand legal community. Carruthers also
has been the chair of the IPCA and the Parole Board.
Speaker 2 (22:57):
Great stuff and congratulations to all, and I thank you
would neither written. Man who joins us from Auckland High
Good morning. So new insights gained after the death of
a man at Murduway Beach.
Speaker 13 (23:06):
Yes, now look this happened earlier this year. You remember this,
Sandre and it brought attention to a danger not immediately
obvious to some beach goers. So twenty eight year old
Caine Gofton, also referred to as Cane Watson and previous
reporting now he died in hospital back in August, two
days after a sand dune collapsed on him while he
was digging a hole. So a coroner has come out
and has found that Gofton died from complications of cardiaca
(23:28):
rescue to entrapment and asphyxia. They've found that, look, the
twenty eight year old's own actions ultimately led to his death,
so there's no evidence that actions or inactions of others
could have changed the outcome. But the coroner is saying
to everyone, look, heading into summer, obviously everyone's going to
go to the beach, and it's important that everyone's aware
of the risks of sand dunes, which you know, they
(23:50):
can become unstable without water.
Speaker 2 (23:51):
Of course, of course, no tunneling, kids, no tunneling.
Speaker 13 (23:54):
Exactly.
Speaker 2 (23:55):
How's the weather fine?
Speaker 13 (23:56):
Apart from morning cloud charts of an afternoon shower, still warm, hot, hot,
hot twenty six and.
Speaker 2 (24:00):
I thank you. Meanwhile, in Sydney, their new Sydney Plan
is out and they say that there's going to be
six and a half million people living in Sydney by
twenty forty five. Now that's up by one point two
million from how many live there right now, what is
it five point seven on? So how are they going
to cope? The new Draft Sydney Plan is out and
its strategy to cope with these extra one point two
(24:22):
million people is to organize the fast growing population around
forty interconnected centers to provide the most jobs and services.
They'll be spread across the city, anchored by Sydney and
Paramatta CBDs, also the emerging city of Bradfield, which is
out by the new Western Sydney Airport. But the thing is,
yeah that what they're saying is intensify around transport harbs.
(24:45):
Sound familiar, That's exactly what all comes doing. It is
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Business thirteen to Sex to America, We go match we can.
Speaker 5 (25:55):
Good morning to you, Andrew, Good morning, how are you well.
Speaker 2 (25:58):
John Trump did a rally overnight in Mount Pecono, Pennsylvania
for ninety minutes, and he tried to convince the people
that the economy is okay.
Speaker 5 (26:10):
Yeah, that's right. Donald Trump traveled there.
Speaker 4 (26:12):
I tried to tout the success of the economy at
the moment, he's trying to convince Americans that things are
perhaps better than they might seem to be. And this
is the first of a series of rallies that Donald
Trump's going to be doing across the United States. And
part of it is also because Donald Trump has been
accused of spending too much time dealing with overseas conflicts
than the cost of living here in the United States. Now,
(26:33):
like all his speeches, he wandered across a range of topics.
During ninety minutes, he moved away from the teleprompter and
talked about all different things. It has to be said, Andrew,
the stock market has been soaring here in the US,
and we are seeing complete tariff chaos, chaos yet that
Americans are still feeling the pinch of the cost of living.
Speaker 5 (26:51):
There's a new pole from Gallup that's come out in
the last couple of days.
Speaker 4 (26:54):
Twenty one percent of Americans described economic conditions as excellent
or good.
Speaker 5 (26:58):
That's not a high number saying they are poor.
Speaker 4 (27:02):
So Donald Trump has this difficult task now trying to
get convince people, you know, his own supporters that things
are better than they might seem to be exactly.
Speaker 2 (27:10):
And I saw in that poll also fifty five percent
of Americans blame the Trump administration for the high prices
at the grocery store. So it's not a cover for
him yet, but it's certainly getting to be a pain
in the bum.
Speaker 4 (27:23):
Right.
Speaker 2 (27:23):
We have new plans in America to scrutinize visitors social media.
Speaker 5 (27:29):
Yeah, that's right, Andrew. This is a story that could
affect New Zealanders coming to the United States. A massive change.
Speaker 4 (27:35):
Customs and Border Protection here in the US has requested
feedback on a new proposal that would see travelers from
visa waiver countries like New Zealand's undergo a review of
their social media for up to five years. Now, if
you visit the US currently as a traveler, you can
apply for what's called in esther and many of our
listeners will have done that before.
Speaker 5 (27:55):
It's basic information you have to provide.
Speaker 4 (27:57):
This may require you to provide social media and the
nation for the last five years.
Speaker 5 (28:02):
So a massive change is the US cracks down on immigration,
and I thank you, Mitch mcchannon.
Speaker 2 (28:07):
That's only going to make things even more even more
time delays getting into the States, it's eleven.
Speaker 1 (28:12):
To six youth dogs'd be so in the wake.
Speaker 2 (28:15):
Of Australia booting under sixteens off social media, our own
government's Education and Workforce Committee has dropped its interim report
on youth online harm and it's recommended cross party support
on a potential age ban here and the creation of
a new online regulator. So Dr Palmjek Palmer represents Act
(28:36):
on that committee, the Education and Workforce Committee, and Palmjeek
joins me, now, hello, hello, So are you in support
of the age band?
Speaker 9 (28:45):
So what I would say is that you will see
that we have a differing view in the report. And
the reason for the different view is that we felt
as the parties are the parties that is National and
Labor are getting ahead of themselves because there is more
work that needs to be and so what we saw
was that they were already jumping to policy recommendations talking
(29:06):
about the band.
Speaker 2 (29:07):
So what work needs to be done? Do we need
to be just sitting back and just watching whether the
Australian thing works?
Speaker 9 (29:17):
So definitely, I would say to my parliamentary colleague that
we need to take a deep breath. We should watch
the role out of this policy in Australia because this
is a natural experiment happening and we had this great
opportunity to learn from them in real time. So we
should not be rushing for a policy of ban because
(29:37):
in my view, it would be kind of irresponsible for
us to do that because we can learn from Australia.
And also already I'm seeing some reports in media about
young people trying to get around the band. So the
ultimate goal is to reduce harm, but with what is happening,
we know that we will be pushing young people into unregulated,
harder to monitor, darker spaces of Internet, so there will
(30:01):
be more suffering, suffering, more suffering and more secretly.
Speaker 2 (30:04):
So in that case, you need an online regulator, and
that's been proposed in this report. So what would an
online regulator do?
Speaker 9 (30:12):
So the idea of this report was actually to summarize
what we have heard and also summarized the advice. So
the idea of this report and trim Report was not
to provide any solutions or recommendations, and that is what
our concern is. So we need to do more work
in the Select Committee to ensure that we come to
right kind of conclusions. And if you asked me, I
(30:34):
trust then as a solution at this stage what I'm
seeing in Australia, my response will be now and we
need to understand more what this regulator would do, because
we need to understand what the powers of this regulator
will be. So what I'm saying is that at this
stage we needed to actually just summarize submissions and summarize advice.
(30:56):
But seeing that some parties have jumped to policy recommendations,
actually that compromise.
Speaker 2 (31:02):
Okay, yeah, exactly, Can I just summarize? Can I just
summarize it? Therefore that you and act say, ty Hoe,
let's have a look at what's happening, and you don't rush.
But you're saying that National and Labor they're they're rushing
in fact too quickly because they feel it's a positive thing.
It's a good vote killer, vote win.
Speaker 9 (31:19):
So our concern is this that the ultimate goal of
this inquiry was to provide some kind of solutions. So
if we identify some risks, we have to come up
with solutions. Just like cars, we know they're dangerous, we
need seed bets, we need road rules, so we need
to do something, but that doesn't mean we jump to
this conclusion of a pen or a regulator. That was
not the purpose of this report. So you'll remember that
(31:40):
when I wrote to the Selectimitty, the plan was to
provide a report in November, and then the Selecumity realizes
it's actually a bigger task than it was imagined, and
that's why this support is split into two parts. The
first part was about submissions and advice, not jumping to
policy recommendations without getting proper advice on solutions and recommendations
(32:01):
and how they would work.
Speaker 2 (32:02):
Ange I thank you Panji Parma as the exposperson who's
on that committee, and says tie home of it. Scott
writes many adults do not know how to use social
media safely and appropriately.
Speaker 12 (32:13):
Either.
Speaker 2 (32:14):
The focus should be on education, as this is something
that's not going to go away. Teach our children, they
are our future, says Scott. It's now seven minutes to.
Speaker 1 (32:22):
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Speaker 2 (32:34):
I'd be mentioned earlier. The Christmas is at mine, and
Taylor writes, how many people at yours? Andrew and I've
done a bit of a total. I think about twenty five.
Taylor writes, my partner and I host this year forty
two people.
Speaker 5 (32:46):
Too many?
Speaker 2 (32:47):
A good morning, I know, forty two people. There's so
much work out on a Christmas Day.
Speaker 5 (32:53):
Yeah, it is.
Speaker 14 (32:53):
And this is the thing is that that actually doing
christ like hosting anybody, is actually really tough work because
you've got to get every thing prepared, You've got the
mental load of it. Then you're actually doing it. You're
the host, You're not getting to sit down, and then
after they all leave, you the one cleaning up.
Speaker 2 (33:06):
How many times have you actually hosted a party and
then you realize you've not drunk anything or eaten anything
because you've been too busy tiding everything.
Speaker 14 (33:12):
Absolutely so many times.
Speaker 8 (33:13):
I see.
Speaker 14 (33:13):
My family is really good about it because I've got
the youngest kids in the family, so we don't we
don't have to host.
Speaker 2 (33:19):
And my mom is awesome.
Speaker 14 (33:20):
She comes around, just does all the stuff to help
me out.
Speaker 2 (33:22):
So I love your mom you you, I do love
your mon No, my mom, I know your mam, and
I do love it. And the other hour of the
problem is that Helen's side of the family, she's the
youngest of seven. Yeah, oh wow, so that's how you
end up with forty two. You know, it's a lot
of people, far too many people.
Speaker 9 (33:38):
People.
Speaker 2 (33:39):
Nicola Willis is attacking the banks and is that a
diversion because everybody is attacking Nicholas n.
Speaker 14 (33:44):
No, Nicola Willis loves attacking the banks because it makes
her look, makes it look relatable, right, like she understands
our pain. Yeah, it's a good move from her. But anyway,
we're going to be talking about the social media thing
in New Zealand, seeing whether we're going to follow Australia today.
Speaker 2 (33:56):
Cool Heather. Next, I'm Andrew Dickins thinking to produce a
Kenza see tomorrow. Something made me bead t in the
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