July 8, 2024 • 28 mins
In the second hour, Dave Softy Mahler and Dick Fain chat with Bruce Feldman about his visit with the Huskies football program recently and the job Jedd Fisch has done taking over the program, then the guys discuss the expectations for UW’s 2024 season.
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Joining us right now on the radioprogram. He is becoming a man of
many, many platforms, The Athletic, Fox Sports, see his stuff for
the New York Times. Obviously theyown the Athletic. Our old friend did
a great piece on Jetfish that cameout today, spent some time with the
new coach of the Dogs. BruceFeldman is with us again on this Monday
afternoon. Bruce, how are youpal doing good? Good to be on
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with you guys. Great to hearyou back on the show. Man,
appreciate you doing this. And firstof all, I don't think we've had
you on much and we have notreally spoken since the whole thing with Kaylan
went down. What do you makeof just the way Washington's recovered, right?
They lose Kitlin to Bore, theylose their entire offensive line. I
believe they lost every starter. Ithink Dick right on the offensive side of
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the ball. They go out andthey hire Jetfish, and now they have
the seventeenth best recruiting class in America, a bunch of transfers coming over from
Tucson. What do you make ofthe way Washington has moved on from Kaitlyn
to bor. I think it's probablyabout us good of recovery as they could
have hoped to make, you know, you talked about I mean, they
only have two guys on the wholestarting twenty two who started in the National
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title game. One's a linebacker andone's a defensive back. And that's it,
right, And so you had guysgoing, you know, jumping in
the portal if they weren't already headedto the NFL. I think if you
look at what Jedfish did at Arizona, I mean that program was left for
dead when he showed up, anda lot of people there locally did not
want him. They wanted Brent Brennaninstead, and they got Fish, and
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he'd never been a head coach before. He took over a program that they
won. They were like so bad, they lost seventy to seven their last
game against the pretty mediocre ASU team. The first year they win one game,
and then by year three they're aten win team and in the top
twelve, and they were pretty loadedcoming back for this year. So I
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think one thing he showed, ora couple of things he showed, was
he how to evaluate and he knowshow to put together a staff, and
he did a remarvelous job with connectingthat team, and that I think is
one thing that I really hope toshow in the story. A couple of
things. You know, I gotto spend basically two days inside the program,
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and you talked about his vision,but you also sat in, you
know, the meeting film session withhim and his quarterback Will Rogers, who
would come from Missisippi State, andyou kind of hear the thought process.
And that's what I wanted to conveyof of this guy as a guy who's
learned from so many elite, youknow, legendary football coaches, whether Steve
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spur for the start, you knowwhere Jim Harbaugh or Bill Belichick. He
was with Sean McVay, obviously PeteCarroll. I mean, I think he's
taken some of the best things fromeach of those guys while remembering I got
to be me. And I thinkthat's why it's all worked for him at
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Arizona US so well, and that'swhy I assume it's going to work in
Seattle. Bruce your knowledge, hasany other team done this had this big
a rebuild in the nil slash transferportal era that we've been living in the
last three or four years, notto not to disagree, where it's basically
four buckets of different players. Youhave some of the holdovers it in Fish
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knew the you know, the exactnumbers. Where we started talking about this
is as he said, you know, it's a really really unique rebuild and
so you know, on on upthere, that was one of the things
I wanted to find out was howdo you get all of these parts to
come together? And as he toldme, he was like, we had
fifteen players we're either at Arizona orcommitted there. They are now here thirty
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eight guys that were on the rosterbuyer, another nineteen freshmen, and then
another fifteen transfer who weren't the Arizonaguys. So he's like, you have
to get those four different groups ofplayers to play as one team and get
them ready by August thirty first.That is a big challenge. You know,
I think it's unrealistic to expect themto be a you know, at
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the level where the you know,making a run at a national title last
year. I don't think that thatseems like it's a long shot. But
what I think is is going tobe interesting is can they be a top
twenty five team. There was agraphic that you would see in the building
that I noticed where it listed likeESPN's preseason twenty top twenty five and Washington
wasn't in there. In the lineunderneath it said where's Washington and dot dot
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dot Washington's working, And that's allabout like, you know, they're working
and we'll see how good they canget. I mean, I talked to
Carson Bruner, spent time with him, and he's like, look, we're
part of that group that was fourand eight. There's a bunch of guys.
Yeah, it wasn't as bad aswhat it was like at Arizona,
you know for some of those guyswhen they were so awful, But a
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lot of these guys they don't wantto ever feel like four and eight Again.
It's not that long ago when thatJimmy Lake season happened and it was
pretty miserable, and there's enough guysthere who are like, we're not letting
that happen. And I think whatFish realized was the critical I got to
keep the core guys of those fifthyear seniors for that culture and to get
them to buy in. And obviouslyfor Carson Bruner with his ties to the
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university family times they are is probablyhis is a little different than some of
the other guys, but yeah,I think it was really interesting how it
all has come together well. BruceFeldman again is with us. Has a
great piece on Jetfish and the Huskiesat the Athletic dot Com. Check it
out. We've spent a couple ofdays up here in Seattle with Jed.
I want to talk about your thoughtson this year's team and how they'll do
in the Big Ten. In asecond, I just talked to Dick on
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the ear off here about this,and Jetfish by all accounts personable right,
has a great gift of gab andgetting along with everybody. We've noticed that
for sure. But Bruce, he'smade eleven stops in sixteen years at eleven
different cities. Should Husky fans getcomfortable with Jetfish as the head coach at
Washington? I think so, becauseright now everything is short term. If
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you get comfortable with your quarterback whowas there for two years and it was
a great two years, I thinkthat's the era war in the days of
you know, there's a Belichick onthe staff. His dad was in New
England for you know, twenty fiveyears. That's unrealistic, you know,
in this day and age. Youknow, we just saw Calen de Bore.
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I think it shocked some of usthat he would to go to a
place he'd never been in a partof the country to replace the greatest coach
in the ministry of the sport.I mean, it just you know,
you got to be on your toesfor this. But I think the part
where you have to buy in isif you look at Fish's resume, most
of the moves he made were forbetter. It was too better, you
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know, steps up in the ladder, you know, at Arizona. I
think he just realized and saw firsthandthis program is not is not financially committed
to have the resources that Washington does, you know, And now that Washington's
in the Big ten, it's notlike Washington is in a program in a
conference that is reeling or is.I mean, it's in one of the
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two biggest conferences. I'm not surehow much better of a situation Jedfish is
going to get, you know,you know, so to think anything outside
of the next four years, Ithink that's probably you know, unrealistic to
guess on that. I think yougot to hope that he can get the
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momentum he got at Arizona, andit looks like he's already getting that on
the on the recruiting trail this summer. Now for the twenty twenty five class,
Well, along those lines we're alludingto with Arizona, do you think
he went to Washington more because ofthe attractiveness of the Washington job or more
because of the unattractiveness of the Arizonajob. I mean, he told me
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flat out, you know, ifit wasn't a big ten school like that,
it wasn't gonna you know, thiswas not gonna get his attention.
Like did I think that? Certainly? He you know, he told me
he looked and you know, thiswas a team that has not just with
talent, but they were in theplayoff and the fourteen playoff with coach Pete,
and he knew that that that alsoshowed that the uh, the strength
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of the program. You're in abig city that embraces you, dub I
think there's a lot you know,he obviously had spent time there because he
had you know, been up therewith with Pete on the Seahawks staff,
and he has a bunch of guysJamie Doherty's close to him. That was
a guy who was on Sark stafffor a while. You have people who
know what that place is like.I think it was very attractive. I
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think the thing that was hardest forhim, not totally to speak for him,
but from how he you know,kind of related to me was that
team that he's leaving behind. Theywere They're built to be really good.
I mean, I feel like ifJefish stays at Arizona, that team is
not only the Big twelve favorite,but I think they're a legit playoff even
they're dangerous because of the firepower theyhave on offense, and we'll see how
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it goes without it. I mean, I was just some key pieces ended
up, you know now up inSeattle with him, but just to look
at it, he said, doI do I take this job or do
I turn it down? Based offof what I think Arizona is in twenty
twenty four, He's like, Idon't know what that's going to look like
in three to five years. Andbecause obviously there's some financial issues that have
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been that it's that had come tolight way before Caln de bre Ever left
Seattle that you know they already hadissues in Arizona financially, and so I
think there was real concern. Butat the same point, I don't think
if it was if it wasn't Washington, if it was Arizona State or some
other school in the Big twelve,I think this is a non starter.
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But it was. It's a it'sa blue blood program that has been to
the playoffs, came close to itin the national title, and it's going
to the Big Ten. And he'sa guy who spent some time in the
Big Ten already at Michigan, soI think it was very attractive for him.
Well, Bruce velvins with said Bruce, I think a lot of us
are just kind wondering what we've goton our hands this year. You mentioned
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it two starters back. They losttheir entire line, which is the one
thing that concerns me the most overanything, to be honest with you,
their schedule looks manageable in the firstcouple of months and then turns into a
mother in the second half of theyear. What what does success for Jedfish
look like in year one? OnMottleke, I think if you get to
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seven or eight wins, if youget to eight wins, I think it's
a terrific first year. If youget to seven, I think that's a
pretty strong season, given as yousaid, as the schedule gets heavy,
you have no starters back, andyou had the Joe More offensive line,
you know, best offensive line thecountry last year, and none of those
guys are here right now. You'regoing into a much more physical conference.
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That's not you know, that's abig uphill climb. I think from talking
to people there, there's definitely someskill talent, right you know, they
talk about Denzel Boston glowingly. Theytalk about some of the other speed and
skill guys they have. I youknow, Jonah Coleman's a big time back.
He was their leading rush at Arizona. I think you will fit in
great. You know, it'll beinteresting to see you have two quarterbacks.
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Will Rodgers has played a ton offootball. I think he brings a lot
of stability in leadership that Jed's gonnalean on. And then you have a
freshman quarterback in Demon Williams who wassupposed to go play for him at Arizona
and follow him, who they allthink is is really special, really dynamic
athlete. I think you'll see himin some package stuff, and I think
he'll help give them some spart.But I look at this team and like,
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man, if they get to ifthey get to eight wins somehow,
that's a terrific first season. ButI think as long as you do not
fall way back, because again,I think anybody's paid attention knows they almost
to almost have to replace the entirestarting twenty two. And to do that
and to go into a tougher league, man, that's you know, that's
asking a lot. Well, what'sthe vibe that you got from Jed when
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you talked to him about not onlythe competitiveness of twenty twenty five team,
but what he thinks the competitiveness ofthe Washington team in twenty twenty five and
beyond can be in this new conference. I don't think he's backing away from
how good this place can be andyou know, in the next couple of
years, because I think he knows, I'm a Washington we can't have three
down years, whether you have twostarters back or not. You know,
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people, it's Washington. This isn'tArizona anymore, right, So I think
he knows the expectations. I thinkhe's he's he's good with that. I
mean, look, I think privately, I think they look and say,
hey, our defense is gonna isgoing to give of problems because we know
who's running it, and we know, you know, we've seen a little
bit of how that works. AndI think Jet has a lot of confidence
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in himself as a play caller.I mean a lot, especially after a
dangerous that Arizona he was. Yougot to remember, I think what if
I was a Washington fan, thatI would feel pretty strong about is except
for ted ol McMillan, who wasa big get for them because he was
like the best receiver recruit on theWest coast, you know, when he
came out. Those other guys,whether it was the linemen who now are
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pretty coveted by the NFL, orcertainly you know, the quarterback or Jacob
Monu, who's one of the bestlinebackers in the in the conference of the
DBS, like a lot of thoseguys did not have like playoff teams chasing
them. They did the evaluation,they did the development, They saw things
in them, and I think youhave to feel pretty good knowing, Okay,
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these guys, because listen, I'min Los Angeles. There's a bunch
of four star rated guys who haveturned out to be duds at USC,
not all of them, but there'sbeen a bunch of them big disappointments.
I mean, they were a threetouchdown favorite against you know, the game
we watched with Will Rogers, youknow in the film session, they were
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a three touchdown favorite in the coliseum, and you know that went to triple
overtime, you know. And soI think that with the resources that they
have, the recruiting deet and nowhe can sell, hey, we just
had a ten win team at Arizona. We just had a you know,
they had first round picks in Arizonain a long time. And I think
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those things I think vode well forthem in the not too distant future.
I suspect that's why you're gonna probablysee a lot more Blue Chippers and committing
committing to you. Dubson, Well, like we said earlier, Calen Debor
had three four star players that hesigned to his last class, and Jed
Fish has. When I say Dicksix seven so far, he's got six.
So I mean I think personally,Bruce, he's done as good a
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job as you could expect in recruiting, we'll find out. Coaching, why,
scheme wise, all that stuff.Can they metch the offensive line together,
We'll find out. But I thinkthey've done as good as they can
do. Man, it was adark day, dude, Bruce. You
know that the day kaln took offfor all of us was was heartbreaking.
I had no problem. See,he was one of the best dudes I've
ever covered. He was one ofthe best coaches ever at Washington. What
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he did there was unbelievable. Andfor them to be here now after that
day is incredible. Do you youthink that Bill Belichick and Pete Carroll are
going to play maybe a bigger rolein this than maybe some people think.
How how involved you think they'll be. I think Belichick will be more involved
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than people would have thought, justfrom not only Jed, but I talked
to several guys in the staff whotalked about how engaged Belichick was and he
spent the whole week there was inthe meetings. You know, for people
who haven't read this story, oneof the things that was kind of,
you know, eye opening was Jedtalking about how invested Belichick was when he
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was at Arizona even, you know, and the feedback he was given him
watching film every week, and thatwas when he was the head coaching in
the NFL. That wasn't when hisson was the defensive coordinator and he had
to work, you know. SoI think that part I would expect to
play, you know, a bigpiece of it. I don't know how
much Pete is going to be ableto be connected to that. I'm sure
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Jed would love it, you know, but I think with Belichick, the
way he's wired at this point,I think he will be more involved than
people ever imagined that he would be. And again, just look at this,
you know, the quote from Jedand the story and that I don't
I was kind of a little surprisedat how engaged he was from the people
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I talked to when he was upthere. Bruce, I think when a
lot of people think about the BigTen, they think all this big,
bad conference. But let's take outOhio State, Michigan, Penn State for
a second, and let's take outUSC, Oregon, and Washington from the
PAC twelve side. How do teamsfour through twelve in the PAC twelve compare
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with teams four through eighteen in theBig Ten or whatever it was four through
fourteen in the Big Ten. Greatquestion, I mean, because you definitely
had the Illinois and produce. Youknow, Northwestern like three out of four
years was like a like a threeand nine team, and then the other
year they would go like nine andthree. I felt like you would have
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pretty similar right in terms of that. Which you didn't have, you know,
was the well, obviously it wasa superpower in terms of how it
recruited. Michigan was a bruising,physical team that was like Utah times three,
you know, and I feel likethat was a little different. But
the rest of them, I thinkthe challenge is going to be when you
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play and I know people snickers atthis, but like you go across if
you have to go all the wayacross the country and play Rutgers, I
mean, Rutgers actually now is adecent program. I mean they they beat
up on Miami pretty good in theBowl game. I think Greg Ciano has
done a pretty good job there.Guys drafted pretty draft every year, but
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are not you know, by thesame you know, in the same spirit.
You know, you can see OregonState has been a foreign in people's
side at times. Not always,but occasionally, and you find some of
those programs in the old PAC twelveSon you were to say it like that,
but like quasduo could be dangerous toteams, you know. I mean,
I would use this as a littlebit of a barometer. Wisconsin was
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one of the best teams over thelast decade in the Big Ten West,
which was the down division. Wazoobeat him the last two years, right
and this was you know, wasa Wazoo program that was, you know,
deal with all sorts of issues beyondjust football, and they still found
a way to beat one of thebetter teams, if not the best program
in the Big ten West. Hey, Bruce, real quick before you go,
Bruce Feldman again with US. Iknow we're running late on time here,
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my producers gonna come me, butI gotta ask you about this while
you're on the air with US.I don't know if you saw this or
not, and I honestly I haveno idea how legit it is. I
mean, I'm sure this has beenthe case for a while. But Barstool
had a story over the weekend aboutPhil Knight being eighty six years old and
providing unlimited nil resources for Oregon thathe desperately wants a championship before he passes
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away. Any thoughts on that story. I mean, that's something I've heard
for a while now, that hereally wants to win a national title in
football before he passes away his age. And also, you know the dollar
figures of what their ni A warchest for this team is. I've heard
this is high, if not higherthan any program I've heard of in college
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football, including Ohio State. Sono excuses for the Ducks, no,
And I think Lanning's got a lotof things going in the right direction,
and I really think they're going tobe a dangerous team they get Ohio State
in augstin I mean, to me, they're a team that's a legit top
five team this year. Bruce Feldman, Fox Sports, The Athletic Great Stuff.
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Man, appreciate you jumping on.Good work with the Washington piece.
I'm sure a lot of Husky fanswill check it out. Hey, you
enjoy what's left of the summer andwe'll talk soon. Man appreciate it.
Yeah, head into the big twelvemedia days right now in Vegas. I
love it. I love it.Well, good thing at Jim's side,
right we were there a year agofor the same thing. All right,
good stuff from Bruce Feldman. We'regonna break. We'll come back and talk
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about what he said about what wouldconstitute success for you dub in year one,
or we can complain about the Marinerssome more. Uh your choice.
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All Steven Sousa will join us atfive o'clock discuss the Mariner offense. Fabulous
on the here that it's fabulous totalk to him. The I just wanted
to have an excuse to play thepsycho theme. I think we can use
that all the rest of the year, though well I hope not. I
hope they turn it around. Wecan do something else. What is turning
it around? Me like a sixeighty ops that'd be to it means not
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being a corpse and having a heartbeat. How's that? Honestly? I mean
it's like the next step for thisoffense would be like, uh, you
know, the grave. There's justthere's no way to take it. One
foot in the grave. Dude,they're done there. Offense looks catatonic right
now. It's unbelievable playing. They'rescared. They have no approach whatsoever.
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They're just they're playing like a bunchof children at the plate who are just
thrown up here and just told dothe best you can. Bobby leaders get
killed, all right? Yeah,call for someone to be fired then,
I mean, honestly, I mean, if it's leadership, then get rid
of somebody. Well, I'm notjust talking about what is the issue?
Is it the GM, it's themanager? Is it the ballpark? Because
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the ballpark's never going away and they'renever ever gonna play eighty games with the
roof closed, especially when the weather'slike this, forget about it. Of
course, one of the big sellingpoints is the park. There's no way
they close that route. I'm notjust talking about leadership. I'm talking I'm
talking about on the field that leadership. I mean, we all know that
cal Rawly's a good leader, right, who else who else on this team
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has any buzz whatsoever and carries anyweight in that clubhouse? Well, all
the other guys that you would haveexpect to be leaders. A lot of
them just got here, right.I mean Handigers on this second tour of
Dutey, he's thirty three. Iknow they've a garbage just showed up rarely
just showed up. You know.The veteran Kenson Rojas is probably too young
for that. Who you are probablytoo young for that? And France and
Hanniger aren't playing well enough to beeither. Well. I think that's the
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point, is that to be aleader you have to at least maybe show
something that people should listen to you. Yes, And there's nobody doing that.
So we'll talk to Steven about thatat five o'clock tonight. I want
to go back to what jet Fishsaid about expectations for year one for uh
you dub I say jet Fish orBruce Veldman b Jedfish through Bruce Feldy.
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I asked him what what would bea successful year one and he said if
they win eight games, that wouldbe a really terrific year one for Jetfish.
And I wonder if people out thereagree with him, And there's a
lot of people online that are sayingthat should never be the expectation, and
okay, I get that in anormal year. Yeah, you Dub is
never expected, are you see?I can show you right here absolutely,
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because I mean I see more ofthe opposite. I see more of the
all Man the Huskies are gonna stakethis year. They're in this super conference
that people forget that there's there's likeeighteen teams and like fourteen of them.
Aren't that good? Dwight yokes onTwitter. I guess that should never be
the goal, says Dwight. Iguess my question to Dwight and others would
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be this, how many players wouldyou have to lose off the previous team
where you would say, Okay,maybe for this year it's time to maybe
dial the expectations down a little bit. Look, clearly, the expectations for
you Dub have always been being theRose Bowl Race in November, no matter
what, and for the most part, they've been doing that. Now they're
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in a different race, which isa college football playoff race. I think
the expectations should be that in theBig Ten. Ultimately, this team should
be in the conversation for the twelveteam playoff every single year. There's probably
gonna be thirty teams, maybe twentyfive teams, Dick whatever. That will
be in the conversation on November first, and U dub has no business not
being one of them this year.I think with losing your entire offensive line,
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having two starters back, I mean, if I would have told you
in the middle of last year thatElijah Jackson was one of your two starters
that were back from a year ago, you would have said, oh my
god, we're in trouble because ElijahJackson. People wanted them benched, including
me, by the way, andhe got better, way better as the
year went on. So look,I'm not saying they have a lot of
experience. They have some transfers thatcould help out right away. Put Meshing
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this thing together, especially with theoffensive line, is gonna be hard.
But Dick, if you look attheir schedule, if they win eight games,
Jeed Fish is gonna be up forthe National Coach of the Year because
let's just say, for giggles,they start off five to zero, and
I think Bruce is right. Rutgersis a little better than people think.
The same Rutgers. You're going there, So let's just say you say four
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and one, say four and one, four and one should be expected to
say four and one. Michigan Iowa, Indiana, USC, Penn State,
Ucla, Oregon. You've got yougot seven games left after the four and
one start. You gotta go fourand three. In those seven games meeting
between Michigan, Iowa, Indiana,USC, Penn State, ucle Oregon,
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you have to win at least fourof them. Let's just say, for
giggles, you beat Indiana, andlet's say for giggles you beat Ucla.
That means between Michigan, Iowa,USC, Penn State, and Oregon,
you're gonna win two of those games. You gotta win a game to get
to eight wins that you probably werenot supposed to win at some point to
get to that number. So Ithink eight wins I totally agree with with
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Bruce. If Jedfish can do that, that would be a huge statement for
him. In your number one,I would not sign out of court for
seven and five. I would signout a court for eight, all right,
because I think you're right. Ithink I mean, when you look
at the twelve games, you're abetter program than eight of the teams that
you play. Sure traditional tradition,you are on par with two of the
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teams you play, Oregon and PennState, and you are lesser than two
of the teams you play, Michiganand USC. So if you just go
by that, can you beat theeight teams that you're a better program then
and then lose the other four?And then you go eight and four?
Who were you a better program thanWeaver State, Eastern Michigan, Washington State,
Northwestern, Rutgers, Iowa? Ohyou really? You pause for a
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second, well, because I justdon't really think that who you're a better
program than overall is really relevant.That's what we're that's what we're using right
now, is my okay Iowa?Yes? Overall better? Yes? Indiana?
Yes, you seel it? Okay, there's your eight times and there's
no question. And a better programmeans a little bit of something because Jedfish
gets these transfers in, gets thesetalents in based upon what type of program
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you have. And I think youraised a great point a couple of weeks
ago. I think you've done itmore than once. You've said, Hey,
if Ephesian's price sock, If ifJonah Coleman, Jeremiah Hunter, if
they were on the Washington football teamlast year, people would feel a lot
more comfortable about record going forward thisyear. But so, but they're that
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talent, they're they're great. They'relike they're like second third team all Big
ten type talent players. So thatshould mean something and how good you're gonna
be? Yeah, Iowa. TheIowa game kind of strikes me as the
game where you just run the crapout of the ball and you win the
game thirteen to ten. That's justkind of what they've been. They've had
a phenomenal defense. Is that whatthey want you to do? Though?
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You might want to just go gunsof blazon and see if you can put
up twenty four because if you can, you know they Yeah, maybe start
off like that. But Iowa's defensehas been awesome. Nobody's been able to
move the ball on That's what I'msaying. If you can put up twenty
can you put up twenty four?I don't know, man, that's a
big number. I mean it's along ways away. We got to wait
till October for that game. Butthat defense has been I mean, the
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unders, the over unders have beenin the teams for Iowa's games before a
reason. Yeah, let's get abreak. I'll textimonials four nine, four
or five to one? What wouldyou want to say? To this Mariner
offense. And then do you agreethat eight wins is a terrific year for
Jedfish in year one? We'll dothat next four, nine, four,
five one tell the more do textline stevensus at five courtesy at tacko time
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on ninety three three k j RFM
Joining us right now on the radioprogram. He is becoming a man of
many, many platforms, The Athletic, Fox Sports, see his stuff for
the New York Times. Obviously theyown the Athletic. Our old friend did
a great piece on Jetfish that cameout today, spent some time with the
new coach of the Dogs. BruceFeldman is with us again on this Monday
afternoon. Bruce, how are youpal doing good? Good to be on
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with you guys. Great to hearyou back on the show. Man,
appreciate you doing this. And firstof all, I don't think we've had
you on much and we have notreally spoken since the whole thing with Kaylan
went down. What do you makeof just the way Washington's recovered, right?
They lose Kitlin to Bore, theylose their entire offensive line. I
believe they lost every starter. Ithink Dick right on the offensive side of
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the ball. They go out andthey hire Jetfish, and now they have
the seventeenth best recruiting class in America, a bunch of transfers coming over from
Tucson. What do you make ofthe way Washington has moved on from Kaitlyn
to bor. I think it's probablyabout us good of recovery as they could
have hoped to make, you know, you talked about I mean, they
only have two guys on the wholestarting twenty two who started in the National
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title game. One's a linebacker andone's a defensive back. And that's it,
right, And so you had guysgoing, you know, jumping in
the portal if they weren't already headedto the NFL. I think if you
look at what Jedfish did at Arizona, I mean that program was left for
dead when he showed up, anda lot of people there locally did not
want him. They wanted Brent Brennaninstead, and they got Fish, and
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he'd never been a head coach before. He took over a program that they
won. They were like so bad, they lost seventy to seven their last
game against the pretty mediocre ASU team. The first year they win one game,
and then by year three they're aten win team and in the top
twelve, and they were pretty loadedcoming back for this year. So I
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think one thing he showed, ora couple of things he showed, was
he how to evaluate and he knowshow to put together a staff, and
he did a remarvelous job with connectingthat team, and that I think is
one thing that I really hope toshow in the story. A couple of
things. You know, I gotto spend basically two days inside the program,
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and you talked about his vision,but you also sat in, you
know, the meeting film session withhim and his quarterback Will Rogers, who
would come from Missisippi State, andyou kind of hear the thought process.
And that's what I wanted to conveyof of this guy as a guy who's
learned from so many elite, youknow, legendary football coaches, whether Steve
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spur for the start, you knowwhere Jim Harbaugh or Bill Belichick. He
was with Sean McVay, obviously PeteCarroll. I mean, I think he's
taken some of the best things fromeach of those guys while remembering I got
to be me. And I thinkthat's why it's all worked for him at
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Arizona US so well, and that'swhy I assume it's going to work in
Seattle. Bruce your knowledge, hasany other team done this had this big
a rebuild in the nil slash transferportal era that we've been living in the
last three or four years, notto not to disagree, where it's basically
four buckets of different players. Youhave some of the holdovers it in Fish
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knew the you know, the exactnumbers. Where we started talking about this
is as he said, you know, it's a really really unique rebuild and
so you know, on on upthere, that was one of the things
I wanted to find out was howdo you get all of these parts to
come together? And as he toldme, he was like, we had
fifteen players we're either at Arizona orcommitted there. They are now here thirty
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eight guys that were on the rosterbuyer, another nineteen freshmen, and then
another fifteen transfer who weren't the Arizonaguys. So he's like, you have
to get those four different groups ofplayers to play as one team and get
them ready by August thirty first.That is a big challenge. You know,
I think it's unrealistic to expect themto be a you know, at
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the level where the you know,making a run at a national title last
year. I don't think that thatseems like it's a long shot. But
what I think is is going tobe interesting is can they be a top
twenty five team. There was agraphic that you would see in the building
that I noticed where it listed likeESPN's preseason twenty top twenty five and Washington
wasn't in there. In the lineunderneath it said where's Washington and dot dot
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dot Washington's working, And that's allabout like, you know, they're working
and we'll see how good they canget. I mean, I talked to
Carson Bruner, spent time with him, and he's like, look, we're
part of that group that was fourand eight. There's a bunch of guys.
Yeah, it wasn't as bad aswhat it was like at Arizona,
you know for some of those guyswhen they were so awful, But a
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lot of these guys they don't wantto ever feel like four and eight Again.
It's not that long ago when thatJimmy Lake season happened and it was
pretty miserable, and there's enough guysthere who are like, we're not letting
that happen. And I think whatFish realized was the critical I got to
keep the core guys of those fifthyear seniors for that culture and to get
them to buy in. And obviouslyfor Carson Bruner with his ties to the
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university family times they are is probablyhis is a little different than some of
the other guys, but yeah,I think it was really interesting how it
all has come together well. BruceFeldman again is with us. Has a
great piece on Jetfish and the Huskiesat the Athletic dot Com. Check it
out. We've spent a couple ofdays up here in Seattle with Jed.
I want to talk about your thoughtson this year's team and how they'll do
in the Big Ten. In asecond, I just talked to Dick on
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the ear off here about this,and Jetfish by all accounts personable right,
has a great gift of gab andgetting along with everybody. We've noticed that
for sure. But Bruce, he'smade eleven stops in sixteen years at eleven
different cities. Should Husky fans getcomfortable with Jetfish as the head coach at
Washington? I think so, becauseright now everything is short term. If
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you get comfortable with your quarterback whowas there for two years and it was
a great two years, I thinkthat's the era war in the days of
you know, there's a Belichick onthe staff. His dad was in New
England for you know, twenty fiveyears. That's unrealistic, you know,
in this day and age. Youknow, we just saw Calen de Bore.
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I think it shocked some of usthat he would to go to a
place he'd never been in a partof the country to replace the greatest coach
in the ministry of the sport.I mean, it just you know,
you got to be on your toesfor this. But I think the part
where you have to buy in isif you look at Fish's resume, most
of the moves he made were forbetter. It was too better, you
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know, steps up in the ladder, you know, at Arizona. I
think he just realized and saw firsthandthis program is not is not financially committed
to have the resources that Washington does, you know, And now that Washington's
in the Big ten, it's notlike Washington is in a program in a
conference that is reeling or is.I mean, it's in one of the
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two biggest conferences. I'm not surehow much better of a situation Jedfish is
going to get, you know,you know, so to think anything outside
of the next four years, Ithink that's probably you know, unrealistic to
guess on that. I think yougot to hope that he can get the
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momentum he got at Arizona, andit looks like he's already getting that on
the on the recruiting trail this summer. Now for the twenty twenty five class,
Well, along those lines we're alludingto with Arizona, do you think
he went to Washington more because ofthe attractiveness of the Washington job or more
because of the unattractiveness of the Arizonajob. I mean, he told me
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flat out, you know, ifit wasn't a big ten school like that,
it wasn't gonna you know, thiswas not gonna get his attention.
Like did I think that? Certainly? He you know, he told me
he looked and you know, thiswas a team that has not just with
talent, but they were in theplayoff and the fourteen playoff with coach Pete,
and he knew that that that alsoshowed that the uh, the strength
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of the program. You're in abig city that embraces you, dub I
think there's a lot you know,he obviously had spent time there because he
had you know, been up therewith with Pete on the Seahawks staff,
and he has a bunch of guysJamie Doherty's close to him. That was
a guy who was on Sark stafffor a while. You have people who
know what that place is like.I think it was very attractive. I
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think the thing that was hardest forhim, not totally to speak for him,
but from how he you know,kind of related to me was that
team that he's leaving behind. Theywere They're built to be really good.
I mean, I feel like ifJefish stays at Arizona, that team is
not only the Big twelve favorite,but I think they're a legit playoff even
they're dangerous because of the firepower theyhave on offense, and we'll see how
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it goes without it. I mean, I was just some key pieces ended
up, you know now up inSeattle with him, but just to look
at it, he said, doI do I take this job or do
I turn it down? Based offof what I think Arizona is in twenty
twenty four, He's like, Idon't know what that's going to look like
in three to five years. Andbecause obviously there's some financial issues that have
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been that it's that had come tolight way before Caln de bre Ever left
Seattle that you know they already hadissues in Arizona financially, and so I
think there was real concern. Butat the same point, I don't think
if it was if it wasn't Washington, if it was Arizona State or some
other school in the Big twelve,I think this is a non starter.
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But it was. It's a it'sa blue blood program that has been to
the playoffs, came close to itin the national title, and it's going
to the Big Ten. And he'sa guy who spent some time in the
Big Ten already at Michigan, soI think it was very attractive for him.
Well, Bruce velvins with said Bruce, I think a lot of us
are just kind wondering what we've goton our hands this year. You mentioned
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it two starters back. They losttheir entire line, which is the one
thing that concerns me the most overanything, to be honest with you,
their schedule looks manageable in the firstcouple of months and then turns into a
mother in the second half of theyear. What what does success for Jedfish
look like in year one? OnMottleke, I think if you get to
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seven or eight wins, if youget to eight wins, I think it's
a terrific first year. If youget to seven, I think that's a
pretty strong season, given as yousaid, as the schedule gets heavy,
you have no starters back, andyou had the Joe More offensive line,
you know, best offensive line thecountry last year, and none of those
guys are here right now. You'regoing into a much more physical conference.
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That's not you know, that's abig uphill climb. I think from talking
to people there, there's definitely someskill talent, right you know, they
talk about Denzel Boston glowingly. Theytalk about some of the other speed and
skill guys they have. I youknow, Jonah Coleman's a big time back.
He was their leading rush at Arizona. I think you will fit in
great. You know, it'll beinteresting to see you have two quarterbacks.
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Will Rodgers has played a ton offootball. I think he brings a lot
of stability in leadership that Jed's gonnalean on. And then you have a
freshman quarterback in Demon Williams who wassupposed to go play for him at Arizona
and follow him, who they allthink is is really special, really dynamic
athlete. I think you'll see himin some package stuff, and I think
he'll help give them some spart.But I look at this team and like,
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man, if they get to ifthey get to eight wins somehow,
that's a terrific first season. ButI think as long as you do not
fall way back, because again,I think anybody's paid attention knows they almost
to almost have to replace the entirestarting twenty two. And to do that
and to go into a tougher league, man, that's you know, that's
asking a lot. Well, what'sthe vibe that you got from Jed when
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you talked to him about not onlythe competitiveness of twenty twenty five team,
but what he thinks the competitiveness ofthe Washington team in twenty twenty five and
beyond can be in this new conference. I don't think he's backing away from
how good this place can be andyou know, in the next couple of
years, because I think he knows, I'm a Washington we can't have three
down years, whether you have twostarters back or not. You know,
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people, it's Washington. This isn'tArizona anymore, right, So I think
he knows the expectations. I thinkhe's he's he's good with that. I
mean, look, I think privately, I think they look and say,
hey, our defense is gonna isgoing to give of problems because we know
who's running it, and we know, you know, we've seen a little
bit of how that works. AndI think Jet has a lot of confidence
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in himself as a play caller.I mean a lot, especially after a
dangerous that Arizona he was. Yougot to remember, I think what if
I was a Washington fan, thatI would feel pretty strong about is except
for ted ol McMillan, who wasa big get for them because he was
like the best receiver recruit on theWest coast, you know, when he
came out. Those other guys,whether it was the linemen who now are
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pretty coveted by the NFL, orcertainly you know, the quarterback or Jacob
Monu, who's one of the bestlinebackers in the in the conference of the
DBS, like a lot of thoseguys did not have like playoff teams chasing
them. They did the evaluation,they did the development, They saw things
in them, and I think youhave to feel pretty good knowing, Okay,
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these guys, because listen, I'min Los Angeles. There's a bunch
of four star rated guys who haveturned out to be duds at USC,
not all of them, but there'sbeen a bunch of them big disappointments.
I mean, they were a threetouchdown favorite against you know, the game
we watched with Will Rogers, youknow in the film session, they were
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a three touchdown favorite in the coliseum, and you know that went to triple
overtime, you know. And soI think that with the resources that they
have, the recruiting deet and nowhe can sell, hey, we just
had a ten win team at Arizona. We just had a you know,
they had first round picks in Arizonain a long time. And I think
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those things I think vode well forthem in the not too distant future.
I suspect that's why you're gonna probablysee a lot more Blue Chippers and committing
committing to you. Dubson, Well, like we said earlier, Calen Debor
had three four star players that hesigned to his last class, and Jed
Fish has. When I say Dicksix seven so far, he's got six.
So I mean I think personally,Bruce, he's done as good a
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job as you could expect in recruiting, we'll find out. Coaching, why,
scheme wise, all that stuff.Can they metch the offensive line together,
We'll find out. But I thinkthey've done as good as they can
do. Man, it was adark day, dude, Bruce. You
know that the day kaln took offfor all of us was was heartbreaking.
I had no problem. See,he was one of the best dudes I've
ever covered. He was one ofthe best coaches ever at Washington. What
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he did there was unbelievable. Andfor them to be here now after that
day is incredible. Do you youthink that Bill Belichick and Pete Carroll are
going to play maybe a bigger rolein this than maybe some people think.
How how involved you think they'll be. I think Belichick will be more involved
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than people would have thought, justfrom not only Jed, but I talked
to several guys in the staff whotalked about how engaged Belichick was and he
spent the whole week there was inthe meetings. You know, for people
who haven't read this story, oneof the things that was kind of,
you know, eye opening was Jedtalking about how invested Belichick was when he
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was at Arizona even, you know, and the feedback he was given him
watching film every week, and thatwas when he was the head coaching in
the NFL. That wasn't when hisson was the defensive coordinator and he had
to work, you know. SoI think that part I would expect to
play, you know, a bigpiece of it. I don't know how
much Pete is going to be ableto be connected to that. I'm sure
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Jed would love it, you know, but I think with Belichick, the
way he's wired at this point,I think he will be more involved than
people ever imagined that he would be. And again, just look at this,
you know, the quote from Jedand the story and that I don't
I was kind of a little surprisedat how engaged he was from the people
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I talked to when he was upthere. Bruce, I think when a
lot of people think about the BigTen, they think all this big,
bad conference. But let's take outOhio State, Michigan, Penn State for
a second, and let's take outUSC, Oregon, and Washington from the
PAC twelve side. How do teamsfour through twelve in the PAC twelve compare
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with teams four through eighteen in theBig Ten or whatever it was four through
fourteen in the Big Ten. Greatquestion, I mean, because you definitely
had the Illinois and produce. Youknow, Northwestern like three out of four
years was like a like a threeand nine team, and then the other
year they would go like nine andthree. I felt like you would have
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pretty similar right in terms of that. Which you didn't have, you know,
was the well, obviously it wasa superpower in terms of how it
recruited. Michigan was a bruising,physical team that was like Utah times three,
you know, and I feel likethat was a little different. But
the rest of them, I thinkthe challenge is going to be when you
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play and I know people snickers atthis, but like you go across if
you have to go all the wayacross the country and play Rutgers, I
mean, Rutgers actually now is adecent program. I mean they they beat
up on Miami pretty good in theBowl game. I think Greg Ciano has
done a pretty good job there.Guys drafted pretty draft every year, but
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are not you know, by thesame you know, in the same spirit.
You know, you can see OregonState has been a foreign in people's
side at times. Not always,but occasionally, and you find some of
those programs in the old PAC twelveSon you were to say it like that,
but like quasduo could be dangerous toteams, you know. I mean,
I would use this as a littlebit of a barometer. Wisconsin was
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one of the best teams over thelast decade in the Big Ten West,
which was the down division. Wazoobeat him the last two years, right
and this was you know, wasa Wazoo program that was, you know,
deal with all sorts of issues beyondjust football, and they still found
a way to beat one of thebetter teams, if not the best program
in the Big ten West. Hey, Bruce, real quick before you go,
Bruce Feldman again with US. Iknow we're running late on time here,
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my producers gonna come me, butI gotta ask you about this while
you're on the air with US.I don't know if you saw this or
not, and I honestly I haveno idea how legit it is. I
mean, I'm sure this has beenthe case for a while. But Barstool
had a story over the weekend aboutPhil Knight being eighty six years old and
providing unlimited nil resources for Oregon thathe desperately wants a championship before he passes
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away. Any thoughts on that story. I mean, that's something I've heard
for a while now, that hereally wants to win a national title in
football before he passes away his age. And also, you know the dollar
figures of what their ni A warchest for this team is. I've heard
this is high, if not higherthan any program I've heard of in college
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football, including Ohio State. Sono excuses for the Ducks, no,
And I think Lanning's got a lotof things going in the right direction,
and I really think they're going tobe a dangerous team they get Ohio State
in augstin I mean, to me, they're a team that's a legit top
five team this year. Bruce Feldman, Fox Sports, The Athletic Great Stuff.
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Man, appreciate you jumping on.Good work with the Washington piece.
I'm sure a lot of Husky fanswill check it out. Hey, you
enjoy what's left of the summer andwe'll talk soon. Man appreciate it.
Yeah, head into the big twelvemedia days right now in Vegas. I
love it. I love it.Well, good thing at Jim's side,
right we were there a year agofor the same thing. All right,
good stuff from Bruce Feldman. We'regonna break. We'll come back and talk
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about what he said about what wouldconstitute success for you dub in year one,
or we can complain about the Marinerssome more. Uh your choice.
Next on ninety three to three kJr F Live from the R and R
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All Steven Sousa will join us atfive o'clock discuss the Mariner offense. Fabulous
on the here that it's fabulous totalk to him. The I just wanted
to have an excuse to play thepsycho theme. I think we can use
that all the rest of the year, though well I hope not. I
hope they turn it around. Wecan do something else. What is turning
it around? Me like a sixeighty ops that'd be to it means not
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being a corpse and having a heartbeat. How's that? Honestly? I mean
it's like the next step for thisoffense would be like, uh, you
know, the grave. There's justthere's no way to take it. One
foot in the grave. Dude,they're done there. Offense looks catatonic right
now. It's unbelievable playing. They'rescared. They have no approach whatsoever.
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They're just they're playing like a bunchof children at the plate who are just
thrown up here and just told dothe best you can. Bobby leaders get
killed, all right? Yeah,call for someone to be fired then,
I mean, honestly, I mean, if it's leadership, then get rid
of somebody. Well, I'm notjust talking about what is the issue?
Is it the GM, it's themanager? Is it the ballpark? Because
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the ballpark's never going away and they'renever ever gonna play eighty games with the
roof closed, especially when the weather'slike this, forget about it. Of
course, one of the big sellingpoints is the park. There's no way
they close that route. I'm notjust talking about leadership. I'm talking I'm
talking about on the field that leadership. I mean, we all know that
cal Rawly's a good leader, right, who else who else on this team
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has any buzz whatsoever and carries anyweight in that clubhouse? Well, all
the other guys that you would haveexpect to be leaders. A lot of
them just got here, right.I mean Handigers on this second tour of
Dutey, he's thirty three. Iknow they've a garbage just showed up rarely
just showed up. You know.The veteran Kenson Rojas is probably too young
for that. Who you are probablytoo young for that? And France and
Hanniger aren't playing well enough to beeither. Well. I think that's the
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point, is that to be aleader you have to at least maybe show
something that people should listen to you. Yes, And there's nobody doing that.
So we'll talk to Steven about thatat five o'clock tonight. I want
to go back to what jet Fishsaid about expectations for year one for uh
you dub I say jet Fish orBruce Veldman b Jedfish through Bruce Feldy.
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I asked him what what would bea successful year one and he said if
they win eight games, that wouldbe a really terrific year one for Jetfish.
And I wonder if people out thereagree with him, And there's a
lot of people online that are sayingthat should never be the expectation, and
okay, I get that in anormal year. Yeah, you Dub is
never expected, are you see?I can show you right here absolutely,
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because I mean I see more ofthe opposite. I see more of the
all Man the Huskies are gonna stakethis year. They're in this super conference
that people forget that there's there's likeeighteen teams and like fourteen of them.
Aren't that good? Dwight yokes onTwitter. I guess that should never be
the goal, says Dwight. Iguess my question to Dwight and others would
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be this, how many players wouldyou have to lose off the previous team
where you would say, Okay,maybe for this year it's time to maybe
dial the expectations down a little bit. Look, clearly, the expectations for
you Dub have always been being theRose Bowl Race in November, no matter
what, and for the most part, they've been doing that. Now they're
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in a different race, which isa college football playoff race. I think
the expectations should be that in theBig Ten. Ultimately, this team should
be in the conversation for the twelveteam playoff every single year. There's probably
gonna be thirty teams, maybe twentyfive teams, Dick whatever. That will
be in the conversation on November first, and U dub has no business not
being one of them this year.I think with losing your entire offensive line,
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having two starters back, I mean, if I would have told you
in the middle of last year thatElijah Jackson was one of your two starters
that were back from a year ago, you would have said, oh my
god, we're in trouble because ElijahJackson. People wanted them benched, including
me, by the way, andhe got better, way better as the
year went on. So look,I'm not saying they have a lot of
experience. They have some transfers thatcould help out right away. Put Meshing
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this thing together, especially with theoffensive line, is gonna be hard.
But Dick, if you look attheir schedule, if they win eight games,
Jeed Fish is gonna be up forthe National Coach of the Year because
let's just say, for giggles,they start off five to zero, and
I think Bruce is right. Rutgersis a little better than people think.
The same Rutgers. You're going there, So let's just say you say four
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and one, say four and one, four and one should be expected to
say four and one. Michigan Iowa, Indiana, USC, Penn State,
Ucla, Oregon. You've got yougot seven games left after the four and
one start. You gotta go fourand three. In those seven games meeting
between Michigan, Iowa, Indiana,USC, Penn State, ucle Oregon,
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you have to win at least fourof them. Let's just say, for
giggles, you beat Indiana, andlet's say for giggles you beat Ucla.
That means between Michigan, Iowa,USC, Penn State, and Oregon,
you're gonna win two of those games. You gotta win a game to get
to eight wins that you probably werenot supposed to win at some point to
get to that number. So Ithink eight wins I totally agree with with
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Bruce. If Jedfish can do that, that would be a huge statement for
him. In your number one,I would not sign out of court for
seven and five. I would signout a court for eight, all right,
because I think you're right. Ithink I mean, when you look
at the twelve games, you're abetter program than eight of the teams that
you play. Sure traditional tradition,you are on par with two of the
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teams you play, Oregon and PennState, and you are lesser than two
of the teams you play, Michiganand USC. So if you just go
by that, can you beat theeight teams that you're a better program then
and then lose the other four?And then you go eight and four?
Who were you a better program thanWeaver State, Eastern Michigan, Washington State,
Northwestern, Rutgers, Iowa? Ohyou really? You pause for a
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second, well, because I justdon't really think that who you're a better
program than overall is really relevant.That's what we're that's what we're using right
now, is my okay Iowa?Yes? Overall better? Yes? Indiana?
Yes, you seel it? Okay, there's your eight times and there's
no question. And a better programmeans a little bit of something because Jedfish
gets these transfers in, gets thesetalents in based upon what type of program
(26:41):
you have. And I think youraised a great point a couple of weeks
ago. I think you've done itmore than once. You've said, Hey,
if Ephesian's price sock, If ifJonah Coleman, Jeremiah Hunter, if
they were on the Washington football teamlast year, people would feel a lot
more comfortable about record going forward thisyear. But so, but they're that
(27:03):
talent, they're they're great. They'relike they're like second third team all Big
ten type talent players. So thatshould mean something and how good you're gonna
be? Yeah, Iowa. TheIowa game kind of strikes me as the
game where you just run the crapout of the ball and you win the
game thirteen to ten. That's justkind of what they've been. They've had
a phenomenal defense. Is that whatthey want you to do? Though?
(27:23):
You might want to just go gunsof blazon and see if you can put
up twenty four because if you can, you know they Yeah, maybe start
off like that. But Iowa's defensehas been awesome. Nobody's been able to
move the ball on That's what I'msaying. If you can put up twenty
can you put up twenty four?I don't know, man, that's a
big number. I mean it's along ways away. We got to wait
till October for that game. Butthat defense has been I mean, the
(27:45):
unders, the over unders have beenin the teams for Iowa's games before a
reason. Yeah, let's get abreak. I'll textimonials four nine, four
or five to one? What wouldyou want to say? To this Mariner
offense. And then do you agreethat eight wins is a terrific year for
Jedfish in year one? We'll dothat next four, nine, four,
five one tell the more do textline stevensus at five courtesy at tacko time
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