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August 19, 2024 38 mins
KJR baseball analyst Chuck Powell joins the show to talk about what the Mariners should do with Scott Servais, and much more.  How much of the Seahawks preseason game did you watch?  Textimonials.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (01:57):
All right, here we go, joining us right now on
the radio show, and I got to confirm with him
that he actually said this this morning, because you never know.

Speaker 3 (02:05):
You see stuff on Twitter or the Instagram, whatever.

Speaker 2 (02:07):
When when Mike Benton is running your social media counts
to your radio station, you.

Speaker 3 (02:11):
Got to double check everything.

Speaker 2 (02:13):
Okay, So I see this morning on a Instagram post
created by our own Mike Benton, Chuck Pouell saying if
the Verners lose two out of three of the Dodgers,
that Scott's service should be let go after that series.
So really, I just want to have Monica Ferman then
we can just let him walk. Chuck, did you really
say that on today's show?

Speaker 6 (02:31):
I did?

Speaker 3 (02:32):
I did?

Speaker 4 (02:32):
I did?

Speaker 7 (02:33):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (02:33):
Why why did you say?

Speaker 7 (02:36):
Well, it's not because you know you've got to beat
the Dodgers two out of three. That's too much to
put on a manager. But to go, let's say one
to eight on a crucial road trip where six of
your nine games were against lesser than competition, when you're
supposed to be the big dog that's eating this time
of the year. It would just mark at this point

(02:58):
of the season, just a string of underachievement that would
now be going on nearly two full years and when
I say under achievement. If you fall short of your
goal of making the playoffs when you've announced you're in
a championship window, you either blame that on we don't
have playoff talent, or you blame it on we're not
getting enough out of our talent. And to me, the

(03:20):
problem is you're not getting enough out of your talent.
So the reason that I said that in the conversation
that we had was I still want to salvage this year.
I still want to salvage this season. And we have
seen this happen many times in the past. Jack McKeon
took the Marlins from an average team to a world
champion in the same year. Rob Thompson from the Philadelphia

(03:43):
Phillies just two years ago, three years ago, took over
a team that was struggling under Joe Girardi and they
ended up in the World Series. Joe Morgan not the
second baseman, but the old Red Sox manager. He turned
a team around. So we've seen numerous examples of where
a new manager can kind of shock the system. So

(04:04):
I'm not behind the scenes. I'm not sitting here trying
to say Scott's service is the only problem or the
biggest or even the biggest problem. But there's a problem.
There is an issue with slow starts. There's a four
year issue of terrible offense. And this team is good
enough to make the playoffs, and as we've discussed many
times before, should they make the playoffs, they are a

(04:27):
dangerous out. So this is more of a desperation ploy.
You come back from this road trip one to eight
when you should be going minimum five and four and
you find yourself five games out with thirty five games
to go. I think maybe the roster needs a new voice,
needs new eyeballs on the problem, and could possibly salvage

(04:50):
this thing with a little over a month ago.

Speaker 4 (04:53):
So Chuck, it sounds to me like this is just
a luck of the schedule timing thing for Scott's service,
because what if they didn't have a Dodger series in LA.
What if they were coming home now after this one
in five road trip, would you still say they need
three more games or would you say he's coming home now?

Speaker 5 (05:10):
This is when you pull a trigger.

Speaker 7 (05:13):
Well, I think there's a little bit of being on
the road, and he's been here long enough, so maybe
you know it cushions the blow. If you could if
you could do it at home versus doing it in
the middle of a road trip. I think when the
players put their heads on their pillows at night Saturday night,
I think they woke up believing that he might not

(05:33):
make it out of Pittsburgh if we don't win tomorrow.
I truly believe that. I know that I felt that way.
I have a feeling you guys might have felt that
way as well. If you get swept six games in
a row again, when you're supposed to be the big
dog and find yourself five games out of first place
because you can't beat the Tigers or the Pirates, who
both pretty much given up on the season, then that

(05:57):
sort of grounds for firing right there. But you did
win yesterday, you did respond, and if you could take
two out of three from the Dodgers, I think that
represents some momentum coming home that gives you a three
out of four that you're looking at, and at that
point you're probably in it to the end with Scott
at that point, but you know, just to shake things up,

(06:18):
it really is. It's not a call on giving up,
it's just the opposite. It is a call on how
do we salvage this year, how do we shock the system?
Because there's time thirty six games to go, there's certainly
time to make up four games in the division five
and a half games in the wild card, but not
the way that they're playing.

Speaker 2 (06:37):
No, that's exactly the point that if you thought they
had no chance, you wouldn't give a damn whatever. Let
the guy manage out and make a change when the
year's over. But I'm totally with you. They get swept
by the Pittsburgh Pirates. I'm making the move on Sunday night,
it's over. Could put your done? You got swept by
two teams and have waived the white flag. And I
just think, you know, Chuck, what I said Friday or Thursday,
that this is a seminal moment in Jerry Depoto's career.

(07:00):
He's fifty four years old, he's been doing this for
fourteen years. He's put together a World Series caliber rotation.
But he's entrusting Scott's service to steward this thing home
for him so he can see those guys in the
postseason where they really could do some damage. If you're
Jerry to Poto, are you putting this on the shoulders

(07:21):
of Scott's service? This is your career on the line.
You may never have a shot like this again.

Speaker 7 (07:25):
As a GM well, I would say for all of
those that have taken the stance of Jerry to Poto's
wasting the ultimate young, affordable starting rotation, he also is
the guy that put that rotation together. He drafted four
of them and traded for Castillo, so he wins a

(07:47):
little bit of favor. I mean, but I started this
season saying this is going to be the best starting
rotation in the sport, and as long as they have
a decent offense, which I think they've assembled, then this
team's going to make the playoffs and be a very
dangerous out in the playoffs. Well, instead of having a
decent offense, that's been horrible. And so this has been
an ongoing problem, not only the slow starts where nothing

(08:09):
gets started before July, but also this has been the
rock bottom offensive season where every single guy is underperforming.
Coulton Wong just plays like Colton Wong. Last year, you
win the division, and the division winner out of the
American League West last year won the World Series. For
goodness sake, if either Polanco or Garver lived up to

(08:32):
the back of the baseball card. As we've talked about
in the past, you're right now probably in first place.
That's just one of those two guys, much less both
of them is just living up to the back of
their baseball card because you just wouldn't have that glust.
So I think everything is under evaluation. If this team
does fall short this year, I'd like nothing more than

(08:53):
to have them put together or run under Scott Service
and let's see what we can do in the playoffs.
But if they fall short, I think everything's under evaluation.
Everybody gets scrutinized, including Jerry, including Justin because there is
a trend of underachievement in this organization here for the
last two years. You're the one Scott Servis that said

(09:15):
this team's great at the beginning of the year. Jerry
Depoto is the one that says we're in a championship window.
So missing the playoffs two years in a row with
this kind of pitching, there is an issue on how
to either instruct offense or your offensive philosophy, and it
has to be overhauled no matter what happens this offseason.

Speaker 4 (09:35):
Chuck of the three scenarios over the last six weeks.
Scenario one be making the playoffs, scenario two being rallying
and just missing the playoffs, and scenario three being see
you later. I mean, you miss a playoffs by seven
games or whatever. Would you agree that the best is
to make the playoffs, the next best is just tank

(09:56):
a font and then the worst is to finish eighty
seven and seventy five and miss the playoffs by two games.

Speaker 7 (10:08):
I don't know if I would go that direction. I mean, look,
if you missed the playoffs by you know, a couple
of games, it'd be a little bit. It would certainly
be painful, but at least it doesn't say you're going
in the wrong direction. I still think everybody still gets
analyzed and scrutinized this offseason, and I.

Speaker 4 (10:27):
Think that Jerry gets scrutinized the same, Sorry Jock. Do
they get scrutinized the same if they have a great
last month of the year and just make them miss
the playoffs versus if they go eighty one and eighty one.

Speaker 7 (10:40):
I think it is the same. If they missed the playoffs,
I think you got it. I think you have to
make the playoffs or you have to evaluate, because I mean,
think about it. At the end of the year. At the
end of the year, what we hand out these awards,
and there's a Manager of the Year award, and it
either goes to the manager who managed the best team
in baseball, but it typically goes to the manager who
got them most out of his talent. So you've already

(11:03):
announced to the world that you have more talent than
what your results are showing. So if that's the case,
then it falls on the manager. The manager's job, there's
a reason they don't call him a head coach in baseball.
His job is to get the most out of his players,
get the most out of each individual guy, and get
the most out of the collective. So you've announced to

(11:25):
the world that this is a playoff team with a
shot at winning the World Series this year, and for
two years in a row. You are now in peril
of missing the playoffs entirely. That's utter failure, that is
underperforming for two consecutive years, and an offense that has
been the problem for four consecutive years. I think everybody
that has anything to do with offense should be gone

(11:47):
from this organization this offseason. No matter what happens, they
could win the World Series and they should still get
rid of their entire offensive teaching department. But Scott Servis
has got to make the playoffs this year. I do
think Harry and Justin will survive this as long as
they choose to. I mean, they've been abused. Maybe Jerry
wants to leave after this year. I don't know, but

(12:07):
but I think that.

Speaker 4 (12:09):
Uh.

Speaker 7 (12:09):
I think Scott service has to make the playoffs this
year because it would no matter what if it's eighty
seven or eighty one, because either way, it's gross underachievement
for a second year in a row, and the manager's
job is to get the most out of his talent.

Speaker 2 (12:23):
I just had a meg Ryan when Harry met Sally
moment at the restaurant when you said, anybody who's got
anything to do with the offense should be gone, no.

Speaker 3 (12:31):
Matter what, You're a thousand percent correct.

Speaker 2 (12:34):
Everybody get him out, the coordinators, the hitting coaches. Doesn't
Jerry have something to be outside of him? Outside of
him right if to fire him to him to I'm.

Speaker 3 (12:45):
With you, Holy was this?

Speaker 7 (12:47):
I mean, I'm I'm cutting Jerry a break because other
you know, I think he's a simple talent. I think
he was he was given a salary cap this offseason
and did some creative things that should have made this
team better, but then they ended striking out more. He's
in charge of the offensive philosophy of this organization, and
I don't know what's happening behind the scenes, what goes

(13:08):
on from Jerry to Poto to getting Jorge Polanco, him
taking a physical and then the next day he can't hit.
I don't know what happens with that. But Jerry's got
to wear that too, And that's what I'm talking about.
Everybody gets evaluated in the off season. I just think, ultimately,
I don't think having assembled the best young, controllable, affordable

(13:31):
starting rotation maybe in baseball history is going to cost
somebody his job. So I think that major changes are
going to be made in this offseason no matter what.
And if you miss the playoffs, I don't care if
it's by a game or eight games. You know a
major figurehead has to go, and I think it'll be Scott.

Speaker 2 (13:51):
Well and then you're talking about obviously having to change
that offensive philosophy and hiring somebody else.

Speaker 3 (13:56):
These guys are with the Angels that came up here.

Speaker 2 (13:58):
Together and they had a you had a philosophy and
they had a vision and that vision has failed dramatically.
So thousand percent with you on that. But how do
they do this? I mean, if they're going to turn
this around, would you think they what thirty seven games?

Speaker 3 (14:12):
I think go twenty five and twelve twelve?

Speaker 8 (14:13):
You see eight and nine?

Speaker 3 (14:14):
How do they go? How do they go twenty five
and twelve?

Speaker 7 (14:18):
Pint that I don't have an in front of me, Dick.
I don't know how many times they play the Astros
the rest of the way. That could be, that could
be a major fact.

Speaker 4 (14:28):
No, they play them in the in the second to
last series of the year.

Speaker 8 (14:31):
I think that's it.

Speaker 3 (14:32):
That's it, that's it. Yeah, three times? Well, so how
do they do that?

Speaker 1 (14:36):
Yeah?

Speaker 7 (14:37):
I don't know if I can put a number on it.
I felt this whole time it was the wild card
was going to be the better road because I didn't
think the Houston Astros are going to stay down. But
now obviously it's not looking good on that front either.
I will say maybe the American League Central beats up
on itself with Cleveland, Minnesota, Kansas City all vying for
playoff spots. I mean, look, this team is terrible this

(15:01):
year for whatever reason at managing prosperity. Just when you
think they're starting to go, they'll show up the next
day and they'll play the worst game you've ever seen,
and then it'll manifest itself and four more just like it.
It's crazy. Well, the one thing they have done under
Scott's service, it might be the thing that he's been
best at. When they've felt like they've had no chance,

(15:23):
when they felt like they were rock bottom, they somehow
figured out a way to go on, not just a
little bit of a tear, a monster tear each of
the last three years. So you know they've got the
talent to do it, and they certainly have the pitching.
They only need two to three runs a game, for
goodness sake, Yeah, in order, And if you're going to
tell me they only need two to three runs, there

(15:44):
is no question that the talent they've assembled is capable
of doing that and repeating that on a given night.
We just haven't seen it this year, which is anexcusable. So,
I mean, with the pitching that you have, there's no
reason that you can't go on tear down the stretch.
But where's that consistency coming from? Are they going to

(16:05):
be able to pull a rabbit out of their hat,
because that's what they're gonna have to do at this point,
because they certainly have not behaved like a team that
can go on that sort of tear to this point
in the year.

Speaker 4 (16:14):
Chuck, in most games they give themselves the opportunity to
score three runs.

Speaker 3 (16:18):
Most games they do.

Speaker 4 (16:19):
Most games they have bases loaded, one out, they have
runner on at second, nobody out. They have runners first
and second, nobody out. But what is maddening to me?
And I gave this stat to Bucky on Friday, I'll
give this stat to you on today. Why are they
twenty three percent lower in sacrifice bunts and flies than
the next lowest team in Major League Baseball. They haven't

(16:42):
just gone to one end of the spectrum, They've like
obliterated the spectrum. Like I just don't understand for a
team that struggles so badly to put bat on ball
and so badly to strike out, why that wouldn't put
them in the top twenty percent of Major League Baseball

(17:04):
in just trying to squeeze out a run versus be
a small ball.

Speaker 7 (17:09):
Yeah, I think that there should have been a shift
to old school manufacturing runs. I mean you have the
speed to do it. They steal a lot of especially
since Roablaze came up to the team. I think there
should have been that transition, that recognition, but they do
lean toward analytics, and analytics made bunting, you know, a

(17:30):
bad word. And then certainly they want to come through
on the sackfly that has been that's been the biggest
issue of them all, and it's now dating back years.
Justin Turner is a professional hitter and he gets here
and now all of a sudden he can't make contact.
Brandy A. Rose Arena was putting on a laser light
show for the last two months in a Tampa Bay

(17:52):
Ray uniform and then he shows up here and he's
turned into an infield single and a walk machine. I mean,
think about this. In the seventy five that's before he
got here, Randy rose Arena had had thirteen extra base
hits and seven walks. Since he got here, he has
six extra base hits and fourteen walks. So it's all

(18:13):
I don't know. I mean, if we knew, and I'm
sure Bucky didn't have the answers either on Friday, because
we've been trying to figure it out all season long.
But this desire to walk over crush the baseball seems
to be a major issue. Sitting around waiting for the
perfect pitch versus attacking a hittable pitch seems to be

(18:33):
the major issue. Now. I think Stephen Susi, your guy,
might disagree with us a little bit here. His take
has been that modern day baseball, you've got to look
in a particular zone or you don't have a chance
against these pitchers. But there's something to that. There's something
to Randy rose Arena got here, and stop being aggressive
and stop hitting line drives. It's not the fricking marine layer.

(18:54):
It's not the backdrop for hitting. What is it? And
why can't you funnel it out? Why can't you, you know,
send a pig in there to find the truffle? Because
we got to figure you have to figure this out,
like now, why you can't put the ball in play?
Why you can bring Colton Long over here, who's done
nothing but been a decent to good player his entire career,

(19:17):
and suddenly he puts on a Mariner uniform and he's
the worst player in baseball? How does that happen? And
how did it happen? Again? This year with Mitch Garver.
It's just it's the mystery that has to be solved
and unlocked with this organization.

Speaker 3 (19:31):
They don't know what they're doing offensively.

Speaker 7 (19:34):
That's it, gotta be it.

Speaker 2 (19:36):
There's no mystery. They don't know what the hell they're doing.
I mean, we sit here and assume that a guy
that played Major League baseball is a catcher in Scott Servis,
the guy that played major League baseball as a pitcher
in Jerry Depoto had been involved in the game. As
long as they have that they know what they're doing offensively,
they don't. It's a major hole in their game, right.

(19:58):
I Mean, there's a lot of GMS coaches out there
that have holes in their game in any sport. You know,
one GM can build a great offense but is terrible
on defense. One guy can build a secondary, but he
can't build an offensive line.

Speaker 3 (20:11):
It's nine years.

Speaker 2 (20:12):
They don't know what they're doing offensively, and if they
don't know what they're doing offensively, they can't be the
people in charge of this team. Chuck Powell, great stuff.
What's on the show tomorrow at six am?

Speaker 7 (20:23):
By the way, Oh boy, what do we have tomorrow?
We are going to have Greg Bell, so we'll have
more on the Seahawks. We will. It's college football week,
so we're gonna do a lot around college football tomorrow,
and of course we'll be reacting to the Mariners game
against the Dodgers. Hey, guys, I hope they win two

(20:44):
out of three. It's not out of the question. The
Dodgers have not been the mighty mite that they were supposed.

Speaker 3 (20:48):
To be this year.

Speaker 7 (20:49):
Be careful with show, Hey, be careful with MOOKI. Their
pitching is very vulnerable, their offenses after the top two guys,
Freddy Freeman's on the injured list. Let's win two out
of three and then let's see we can do the
rest of the work.

Speaker 2 (21:01):
What watch tay Oscar Hernandez be the guy that sends
Scott service to the unemployment line on Wednesday night when
a walk off. Can you imagine if that happens on
Wednesday night?

Speaker 3 (21:13):
All right, great, great stuff. We'll hear you tomorrow with sex.

Speaker 2 (21:15):
Buddy, Thanks pal, then thank you, all right, Chuck Powell
with us. We're gonna breaks, do you Stephen Sue's they're
going to join a five. You know, we haven't talked
one second about the Seahawk preseason game on Saturday night. Again,
does anybody actually give a damn? We'll come back and
discuss that. Does anybody give a damn?

Speaker 3 (21:30):
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Speaker 1 (21:35):
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Speaker 2 (21:50):
Alright, Stephen Susan will join us at five o'clock courtesy
at Taco Time Tony Casher code five forty five from
the Graduate Hotel, the Mountain Douring Club, High topt the
Graduate Hotel for the Jetfish Husky Football Coaches Show tonight. God,
think about how many different coaches shows we've had in
the last seven eight years. We had four Chris Peterson,
Jimmy la So peach last year was twenty nineteen, is

(22:14):
that right? Yes, that was the Fiesta Bowl year twenty
twenty was Jimmy So. We're talking six years, four different
head coaches. And the thing is is that the Huskies
have been good. That's amazing, right, I mean one bad
year through that old stra I would think if you
got four coaches in six years, that you stink. Twenty nineteen,
they went to the Fiesta Bowl. Twenty twenty two, they

(22:36):
went to the Alima Bowl and beat Sart. Twenty three,
they go to the National Championship Game. You're right outside
of twenty twenty. I mean even twenty twenty. They were
okay during the COVID run for what they were allowed
to play, and then things fell apart in twenty twenty one.
So man, how many college football programs have six coaches
in four years and have this kind of record?

Speaker 4 (22:59):
Ah?

Speaker 3 (23:00):
Man, I mean it.

Speaker 4 (23:01):
Might say acident just because just like our roster is
imprecedent with however many do you guys? And not only that,
we went three double digit win seasons.

Speaker 2 (23:09):
Right in there, correct, Yeah, twenty nineteen, twenty two, and
twenty three.

Speaker 5 (23:13):
It's unbelievable with four different coaches.

Speaker 2 (23:15):
Well you're here, Jedfish tonight. I don't expect this. We
brought up, by the way, with with Tony and Jed
on on tonight's show. But I was looking at bet
online dot AG. That's our buddy Jimmy Shapiro, and I
think we should.

Speaker 5 (23:28):
Bring it up with Tony. He gets really comfortable when
we talk.

Speaker 2 (23:30):
About Well, I don't mind bringing up with him. I'm
saying he won't do it with Jed and he shouldn't
bring it up with Jay because this is ridiculous. But
bet online dot ag had the most likely coaches to
be fired during the college football season.

Speaker 3 (23:45):
Who do you think was number one on that list?

Speaker 2 (23:48):
Number one most first head coach fired courtesy of bet
online dot ag.

Speaker 5 (23:52):
You're our friend from Florida, a number.

Speaker 2 (23:56):
One Flourida one, which if that happens and Jedfish does well,
then you or one. Many people think that maybe they'd
go after jet I'd talk to somebody from the that
part of the world who says that he thinks that
Jetfish is still small potatoes for Florida, that if he
would have to have like an eleven win year for
Florida to be attracted to him, Like we think, if
he goes nine to three, that's a hell of a

(24:18):
run eight and four where the Bowl win. Going nine
to four, that's not gonna be good enough for those
people out there in Gainesville.

Speaker 4 (24:24):
They want bigger fish. I love that, literally bigger fish.
I love how that's small potato. So it wasn't too
small potatoes for Washington to get a guy from Fresno
State right, who then would lead them to the National
Championship Game within twenty four months. But it's two small
potatoes for Florida to get a guy that actually had

(24:45):
a bigger boulder resume than Kaitlin de Boord did.

Speaker 3 (24:49):
When he came to Washington. Just hire the right guy.

Speaker 4 (24:51):
That's just exactly I mean that the SEC arrogance gets
in the way of almost every SEC team. There's only
a couple of SEC teams that consistently win well Napier.
The rest of them get in there and get let
arrogance get into their way and they end up finishing
seven and six.

Speaker 2 (25:09):
Mostly was he at Louisiana Lafayette Billy Napier before he
came to Florida, right, or Louisiana Tech or something like that.

Speaker 3 (25:15):
He was he was in the end.

Speaker 2 (25:17):
He was at Louisiana which is I think is Louisiana Lafaye.
He was there, so he wasn't a big name. He
was the Lucia There is on a state for you.
But anyway, coaches show tonight Seahawks on Saturday, go round
the room and start with you how much of the
Seahawks Titans games you watch on Saturday night.

Speaker 8 (25:33):
Absolutely zero. I kind of forgot it was on.

Speaker 3 (25:35):
To be honest, I did too.

Speaker 7 (25:37):
Dick.

Speaker 2 (25:37):
Dick tested me at three three, I said two o'clock.
I was like, there's a game tonight at four o'clock.
So I recorded it. We had an event, I had
a dinner to go to. Look, I just watched the highlights. Guys,
I'll be totally honest with you. I don't think this
is anything that people were going to get into this weekend.
Nobody was playing yet again. Everybody's drooling over Sam Hell.

Speaker 3 (25:57):
Hey, Sam Howell.

Speaker 2 (25:58):
Love it at fourteen buck fifty three, eleven point yards
per throw a touchdown to East South Winston, which I
saw that that was a pretty pass from Sam Howell.

Speaker 3 (26:06):
But did I take anything from this game on Saturday, No? Nothing.
I take zero.

Speaker 2 (26:12):
The preseason's the NFL preseason football has managed to do
the impossible.

Speaker 3 (26:17):
I like it even less than I did last year,
and I hated it last year.

Speaker 5 (26:21):
Well, it just reminds me because I was sitting outside.

Speaker 4 (26:24):
We were getting ready to take my wife out of
our anniversary dinner, so I wasn't gonna watch the second
half of the game anyway.

Speaker 5 (26:30):
Yeah, and I'm sitting there literally doing nothing.

Speaker 4 (26:33):
I'm just fooling around, like piddling with my fantasy football team,
getting ready for the draft. And then I start scrolling
through Twitter and I see a tweet from Greg Bell
that's like an hour old, getting ready for warm ups
here in Tennessee, and I was like, oh, crap, oh crap.
I literally missed the entire first quarter of the game,
and it got me thinking, you were at my wedding, Dave.

Speaker 3 (26:54):
I was one of the I won the August eighth, two.

Speaker 4 (27:00):
Thousand and seven, and that day, the Seattle Seahawks played
the Green Bay Packers in a preseason game, and I
made certain that there was a TV that had the
channel for anybody during the reception that wanted to watch
the Seahawks play the Packers that night, and that was
a preseason Do you think I would have make any

(27:23):
effort whatsoever to have a TV available at a wedding
reception today to watch a stupid preseason game.

Speaker 2 (27:29):
No, I don't think so at all. And I just look,
I haven't seen the ratings. I'm sure they're huge. Maybe
for Naser Levine can tell us, well, I guess they're
in King five now so called Jake Wittenberger, Chris Egan
ask them how the ratings are. I'm sure they're still
pretty big. I mean, look, you know, what do I
take from what I've seen so far? Again, not much
of anything whatsoever, he sap Winston fighting for a job
on the team tight end situation is obviously precarious right now,

(27:52):
There's no question about that. And I do think that
in Sam Howe they might have one of the better
backup quarterbacks in the NFL. Right to have a guy
lash year that threw the ball six hundred times, to
have that kind of experience as your backup quarterback, I
mean I feel comfortable, I guess with Sam How's a
backup quarterback, But in no way, shape or form do
I believe that he should be in the conversation starting

(28:14):
over Ginos.

Speaker 8 (28:15):
Is he a better backup Thandrew Locke?

Speaker 3 (28:17):
I think he is?

Speaker 7 (28:18):
OK.

Speaker 3 (28:18):
Yes, I mean again, we'll find out where ye play, right,
But yeah, I think I think he is.

Speaker 5 (28:23):
I think we've learned that Byron Murphy can really play.

Speaker 3 (28:25):
Yeah, And I think we knew that though, didn't we
know that?

Speaker 5 (28:27):
Yeah, but we didn't know. We didn't know that that
he could potentially be like a Pro Bowl there his
first season.

Speaker 2 (28:34):
I thought watching him against the Huskies, we knew that
because he was getting behind that line the whole game,
and I was like, this is this guy's I did
not see a defensive lineman do that against the Husky
offensive line all year until then.

Speaker 3 (28:46):
Let's get a break, all right.

Speaker 2 (28:47):
Textimonials coming up next segment, Steven Susan joins A five
coming up on ninety three three kJ ARFM.

Speaker 6 (28:58):
Coming to you live from the Elliott Avane, the studios
of Sports Radio g j R. This is textimonials taken
away Dave Softy Maller.

Speaker 2 (29:08):
And you know, every now and then, I just want
to lose my mind on the audience. I love the audience.
The audience is phenomenal. Without them, there's no us, clearly,
but every now and then there's only so much a
man can take.

Speaker 3 (29:20):
What happened is you guys are aware of that, right.

Speaker 2 (29:22):
Everybody has their breaking of course, did I not just
say on the air last segment and no world should Sam?

Speaker 3 (29:28):
How I'll be starting over? Ginos?

Speaker 2 (29:29):
That was your exact word. So the why did the
two oh six text me or text us? Did Softie
just say Sam should be starting over?

Speaker 3 (29:37):
Gino, and in what.

Speaker 2 (29:39):
World did those words again rearranged and enter your ear
canal in that order? Why do you take the meatballs
out of your fricking ears and listen to the show?

Speaker 3 (29:49):
What the hell is wrong with people? I'm on that
you're already here. Guys, don't push.

Speaker 4 (29:53):
Me over if they want to discover us, fine, but
there should be a prerequisite before you were allowed to
hit four nine four five one in your text, that
you actually listen to what was said and not assume
the opposite of what was said was actually said.

Speaker 3 (30:10):
Listen. I get that, it's hard. You got stuff going on.

Speaker 2 (30:12):
Nobody is testing here every word we say in no
world should Sam Howe'll be starting over Geno Smith? And
the next text I get, did Softy just say Sam
hell should be starting over Geno Smith?

Speaker 3 (30:24):
If you hey, if you can only listen fifty percent,
that's cool.

Speaker 4 (30:27):
We love to have you listen fifty percent, but don't
respond if you're listening fifty percent.

Speaker 3 (30:34):
Sometimes I just want to lose it. I know, man,
I lose it. I just want to lose it. Your
your people are driving me to do something crazy.

Speaker 2 (30:42):
His eyelid's twitching right now, Anders, Okay, here we go
four nine four five one the telemore dude text line
when it's game time, it is, indeed, tell the time
anders in for Jackson doing.

Speaker 3 (30:52):
A hell of a job so far. Put your hands
together for the very good. Are you glad? Are you
saying you're glad Jackson's gone? Yes? I am. Oh, I
can't stand Jackson. Hey, this guy, he is definite zero.

Speaker 6 (31:08):
Anyone who calls for Scott's head and not Depoto's needs
to explain why Scott gets blamed for players that underachieve
offensively and to Poto credit for pitchers overachieving. You can't
blame a manger for only the players who underachieve and
not give credit to players that overachieve.

Speaker 3 (31:25):
The question is why would you keep Jerry but not service?

Speaker 7 (31:30):
Are you serious with that question?

Speaker 3 (31:32):
Well, I'm not.

Speaker 4 (31:32):
I'm not necessarily saying that I would do that, but
I will answer his question. I think I think Chuck
stated it eloquently when he was on Because these guys,
these guys, Jerry only has the information of what these
guys have done prior to coming to Seattle. That is
the information he has to make his decision on whether

(31:55):
he wants to bring them in Seattle.

Speaker 5 (31:56):
When they come to Seattle, they fall off a freaking cliff.

Speaker 3 (32:02):
But part of that's Jerry's final Yeah.

Speaker 4 (32:03):
I mean, well.

Speaker 2 (32:03):
Because of the offensive philosophy that him and Scott have
agreed to.

Speaker 8 (32:07):
And your job as acquiring players is to project what
they're going to do, not like trying to replicate the
same thing they did.

Speaker 3 (32:12):
Say, here's the thing.

Speaker 2 (32:14):
If we're gonna give credit to a general manager for
a player that comes over that surprises us, right, which
happens every now and then, we have to give him
criticism for a player that disappoints us. We can't have
it one way and not the other. I mean, in
the end, he's judged on one thing. Wins and stink
and losses. Who cares how you get them?

Speaker 3 (32:33):
And I just think this.

Speaker 2 (32:34):
I think the reason why I would look at the
manager now because firing Jerry Depoto today is not gonna
do anything to help this baseball team in the final
thirty seven games.

Speaker 3 (32:43):
He's not in the clubhouse.

Speaker 2 (32:45):
Getting a new voice in the clubhouse may help that,
that's right, it also may not help them. The natural
order of things is hitting coach, manager, general manager.

Speaker 5 (32:54):
And I think that's the way needs to happen here, right.

Speaker 3 (32:57):
I think you're right.

Speaker 2 (32:57):
I think if Scott Servis gets fired, he's next, simply put.
And if he doesn't get fired and they fall off
the face of the earth like Anders thinks they will,
they're both gonna be out. I think the offense is
massively underachieving. I think they're better than they've shown. They're
not elite, but they're not this bad. There's no reason
why any of us in March when they sought, when
they brought in Polanco, Garver, Hanneger, Luke Rayley thought they

(33:22):
would have the worst batting average in baseball on the
nineteenth of August, and they do.

Speaker 4 (33:26):
Here's what would worry about. Worry being about firing Jerry
to Poto. We know he can build a farm system, right,
all right? Right, So if you bring in GMx, that
is Bill Levasian bring in building a farm system, Yeah,
you're gonna win sixty five games every year as long
as he's there, because you know, the ownership isn't going

(33:48):
to supplement what the farm doesn't have with mega million
dollar free agent signings.

Speaker 3 (33:54):
So how how would you win if you didn't have.

Speaker 4 (33:57):
A farm system that produced four of your five starting pitchers,
how would you win?

Speaker 2 (34:02):
Well, it also might be a good time for a
new guy to come in, because that new guy coming
in is gonna get to an heir at.

Speaker 3 (34:07):
A great form, yes, and.

Speaker 8 (34:10):
Has never proven that he can do even ye.

Speaker 3 (34:13):
All right, what's next?

Speaker 6 (34:14):
The memoiners aren't like when Chick fil A first came
to Washington and you waited in line for hours and
then when it's finally your turn, they tell you everything's
all sold out.

Speaker 2 (34:25):
I've never had that problem at chick sounds like a
personal experience. By the way, the drive through move is very,
very fast.

Speaker 3 (34:30):
It's most chick ful, it does. It looks still painting.

Speaker 5 (34:33):
Yeah that come out to your car.

Speaker 4 (34:35):
If you're like sixth in line, they'll literally walk out
with an iPad and take your order out there.

Speaker 3 (34:39):
It's pretty good. Yeah, you know where. You never have
that problem.

Speaker 2 (34:41):
By the way, Taco to Taco time never runs out
of anything ever, ever, ever.

Speaker 3 (34:45):
All right, what's next? Of course, what's next?

Speaker 6 (34:47):
Serve's voice in the locker room is turning into what
Pete was the last couple of years in the clubhouse.

Speaker 2 (34:55):
Thing little delay there. Well, it's kind of turning into
Charlie Brown's teacher is what it is.

Speaker 3 (35:00):
Wah wah wa wah. It's the same stuff.

Speaker 2 (35:02):
And you know what's really stupid to me, by the way,
I keep turning on the Root Sports postgame show every
night thinking service.

Speaker 3 (35:07):
Is gonna explode, and it never happens.

Speaker 2 (35:10):
And you know what, when it does happen, it'll be
like John McClaren reading off a script off a teleprompter.
It'll sound so dumb and looks so forced that you'll
just end up laughing like it's not.

Speaker 3 (35:20):
Who he is.

Speaker 2 (35:21):
He's never gonna be that guy ever. Okay, so don't
try to be somebody. At least go down swinging with
your dignity for God's sakes if this does happen like this.
But uh yeah, man, I mean look, I just think
removing a voice like that and getting a new one
in there may be able to spark these guys.

Speaker 3 (35:40):
Firing Jerry Depoto today does nothing.

Speaker 4 (35:43):
You thought Andrews what he was gonna say when he
said he turned on the Root broadcast and was expecting
to see I thought he was gonna say.

Speaker 5 (35:48):
I was expecting to see Gen Mueller cooking and having
a glass of wine, or.

Speaker 3 (35:53):
Gen Mueller or Angie men, Tinker Brad Adam on the air.
You know what these guys suck.

Speaker 2 (35:57):
He'll fire everybody the owners of How much would you pay?
Pissed myself? Oh my god, how much would you literally
pee my pants.

Speaker 3 (36:06):
If they did that?

Speaker 2 (36:07):
These guys are all dumbasses. They could lego set. Are
you kid mad? I mean, how about you just flipping on. Look,
I'm not blaming that they work for the team. For
God's sake, that's not their job. That's our job to
do stuff like that. We got time for one more,
give me one more, go ahead.

Speaker 6 (36:21):
Saying everyone should be gone. That has to do with
offensive philosophy. Guess where that starts with?

Speaker 3 (36:28):
Yeah, yeah, well, I guess it has to.

Speaker 2 (36:30):
I think I think you got to either a change
your philosophy and fire everybody who was a part of
the old philosophy, or you got to totally clean house.
I mean, this is gonna be interesting to see how
much they can do in the next thirty seven games
to either prove or not prove to the ownership group
that they are or are not the right people for
the job. Because I don't I believe honestly that outside
of going out and spending some more money and signing

(36:51):
some free agents. John Stanton has given Jerry to Poto
and Scott's service as much rope as.

Speaker 3 (36:56):
Anybody ever in the history of baseball.

Speaker 2 (36:58):
It's unbelievable to be here for nine years and have
one wild card win, to be to lose on purpose,
and get all this time to resurrect it. Look well,
we can say a lot of things about John Stantondick.
The one thing that we cannot say about him is
he has not been patient with these guys.

Speaker 3 (37:17):
He's been very, very pacient.

Speaker 5 (37:18):
He's been Jerry Jones as credibly patient guys.

Speaker 3 (37:21):
Totally.

Speaker 4 (37:22):
He's not not firing anybody, and and it may be
to his detriment at this point, but yeah, I mean,
if Jerry just fires Scott at the end of the
season but doesn't look at himself and doesn't look at
the offensive philosophy that he has built in this baseball team,
then you're not gonna win any more games next year
with whomever the manager. I mean, it's got to be

(37:42):
a comp It either has to be a complete house
cleaning or it has to be Scott fired and Jerry
realizes his offensive philosophy is broken and he needs to
fix it.

Speaker 2 (37:53):
All right, We're gonna break steven susa's gonna join us.
Tony Casher Cutter five forty five Coaches cut A Show
with Jeed Fish. The inaugural Head Coaches Show with Jed
Fish at six pm. Coming up on ninety three three
kJ arfm

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