August 20, 2024 • 37 mins
Doung Baldwin is in to co host with Softy today! What is he up to nowadays? How has he evolved since he retired from the NFL? Colin Kaepernick was supposedly offered a job by Jim Harbaugh on his coaching staff, is that the right move? Fun with Audio.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:06):
Alrighty, boys and girls, here we go. Headlines on softy
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and now through goofy Waco out of touchholders radio, just
for the Pole live forty one yards from Elliott Bay.
Can you feel it now? This is softy and dim.
I had all these crazy plans for this guy over here,
all these bells and whistles set up, Get this guy on,
get that guy in reque, this queue up, that they
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oh we eight thing from the Super Bowl media day,
all that blah blah blah, all kinds of crazy questions.
But when you have an opportunity, Andrews, to get in
one of the greatest Seahawks wide receivers of all time
and really a damn fine American and a damn good
guy and a great guy for the community, you just
simply put sit back and just enjoy the opportunity you have.
Shut the hell up and get out of the way.
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Let's put our hands together, Anders. Doug Baldwin finally in
studio with us, after fifteen years of begging him, begging
him to get on down here and do the radio show.
Hit that big red button there that Doug that says on,
Doug Baldwin is with us here co hosting until six pm.
Speaker 3 (02:55):
How are you, pal, I'm doing excellent.
Speaker 2 (02:57):
So good to see it. Is this weird? Is it
weird for you being here in this element after all
those years when you and I talked in the locker room,
going to that corner where you're hanging out doing your thing.
You're always the first guy I kind of sought out.
And now you're here in my world, baby, here in
my area. Does this feel weird to you?
Speaker 1 (03:17):
No?
Speaker 3 (03:17):
I feel at home. Thank you for the opportunity. I'm
grateful for all the memories that we've created over the years. Yeah,
and being able to share this moment, Well.
Speaker 2 (03:28):
It's yeah. Let's see how you fill at seven o'clock tonight.
All right, when the show's over, well, check in and
ask you about the experience then. But it's funny. I
went and saw my mom today. My mom lives in
a little adult family home area and there's about three
or four people there, and one of the gals, her
name's Nancy. I told her that you were on the
show today because they all want to know, Hey, what's
going on? What are you talking about? Most of the time,
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I have no idea flip on at three o'clock, whatever
pops out of my mouth is what you'll get. And
I said to Nancy, I said, hey, Nancy. Because he's
a big Seahawk fan, Doug Baldwin is doing the show today,
she says, Oh, the guy that owns the rec center.
She knows you more for that than she does for
you being a player.
Speaker 3 (04:04):
Amen.
Speaker 2 (04:05):
I mean, there's a lot of this has been how
many years now since you retired from the NFL years
five years? So, I mean, if you're a you know, nine, ten, eleven,
twelve year old kid, you don't really have a lot
of memory of eighty nine running around and maybe you
know Doug Baldwin for things off the field, do you
kind of feel like you're getting to that point where
you're starting to make a bigger impact off the field
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than maybe you did on the field.
Speaker 3 (04:29):
I mean, I guess as for other people to determine,
I'm just you know, I'm just playing my part, doing
my role right now.
Speaker 2 (04:34):
Yeah, Well, what are you doing? Let's just start there?
Are you? You've been on here a couple of times
talking about life after football, fatherhood, You're a husband, you're
a dad, Obviously, you're an activist, there's no question about that.
You're involved with a lot of aspects of things happening
around the region. But tell folks kind of what what
does Doug Baldwin's typical day look like these days?
Speaker 3 (04:55):
Well, I get up in the morning and I get
to work with some incredible human beings, uh, solving challenging problems.
So I mean that's you know, if I gave you details,
it would just be an elaborate conversation about all the
things that we're in because we do have a number
of things that we're touching. But at the end of
the day, we're just we're vault eighty nine. The business
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that I'm running is a problem solving entity. Wow. Essentially,
that's what it is.
Speaker 2 (05:20):
Wow. Okay, give us an example, right, if you want
to get the detail, go detail. You want to go hardcore,
go hardcore. Give us an idea for a guy that
used to solve problems on the field. Look at playbooks,
scheme defenses, all that. Give us an idea of what
maybe one challenge would make.
Speaker 3 (05:35):
I'll give you three examples because they're you know, just
leaving work, so my mind is there right now. But
one of them is with mental health and well being
for students. Right. So I'm sure you remember that you've
all day shootings that happened a few years ago in
Texas right as a as a new father at the time,
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like that, just I couldn't help but be changed after
seeing that. Yeah, and so my thought process was like,
you know, my heart goes out to the families who
lost children, and you know, I can't even I can't
even touch that. I don't even know how to like
approach that. But as I was seeing, you know, kids
now have to come back to school, those kids who
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went through that traumatic experience, how are they you know,
how are they being taken care of what's happening with them?
And so I stole this concept from the Seahawks. Actually,
so we would go into the Seahawks facility every day
and on the wall was an iPad, and it would
ask us several questions like, you know, well, rache your
soreness level, how was sleep last night? A whole bunch
of questions right to basically aggregate data to then determine
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your workloads about the course of the week to get
you to peak performance on Sunday, right, right, right, So
we took that concept and we're built We've built an app.
It's a web application, so it doesn't necessarily have to
be on a phone or anything. But the students come
into class, they're asked three questions, how are you doing today?
Did you eat this? Morning, How was sleep last night?
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Surface level questions that really get into a much deeper
understanding of your students are doing.
Speaker 2 (07:07):
Right. If they're not eating, for example, then alarm bells
are going off. Yeah right.
Speaker 3 (07:11):
I mean just a lot of things right that come
from those three questions. But we're aggregating that data to
then display it to the teachers, the counselors, the administrators,
and the school district as a whole, so they can
see how their student body is doing in real time
and make better informed decisions. So that's one thing we
just announce the way, thank you, thank you use for
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something more than just sports performance. Another thing was one
of our biggest partners is Safeway. Shout out the Safe Way.
They do a lot of work in the community. Shout
out to my homie Sarah. Safeway throws away a lot
of food every week. I don't want to give you
know too much because it's just it doesn't feel right,
but they throw away a lot of food just it's
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the industry. It's just you know, regulations all the things.
But that food can still be utilized. It's still edible
food if you get it to people the same day,
and so in partnership with Safeway, and in partnership with
an organization called Feeding Feasible Feast, and with the City
of Seattle. We are basically building an integrated logistics system
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that's going to pick up that food and deliver it
to folks who need it that day to consume it
that day. And softly, when I say it's a lot
of food, it is a lot of food.
Speaker 2 (08:27):
Can you give us just an idea tons? It's in
the tons like metric tons.
Speaker 3 (08:34):
Yeah. And this is not a problem just in the
city of Seattle. This is a problem across the country,
across the globe. And so if we get this right,
we think this is replicatable, you know, everywhere, So replicable, replicatable,
you know what I mean. So that's another one of
the things. And then one thing one that we just
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started not too long ago, which I'm very excited about,
so building a relationship with Hyatt. Shout out to Hyatt.
I really like what they're trying to do internally. They
have a policy internally that they're mandating ten percent of
their procurement dollars have to go towards black owned businesses.
So they're diversifying their vendors and service providers and they're
tying their GMS bonuses to that number. Incent advises them
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to find these businesses right in the process, they're finding
businesses that they want to work with. But these businesses
don't necessarily have the infrastructure to scale up to meet
the quantity demands that Hyatt is asking for. And so
we've stepped in as a partner with Hyatta to work
with these businesses to get them investment to scale up
so that they can meet those demands or the quantity demands.
The first company that we got in is Boone Boona
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the coffee shop, and we just announced that partnership today.
It's a big deal. It's a really really big deal.
And you know when you think of this concept as like, okay,
so you know what outside of this are you doing
then just making more money off of this. So the
beautiful thing is that the partnership, then the revenue that
we get from the investment on these businesses goes into
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a nonprofit fund. So it's a text right off of
these businesses, right, non deluted equity in there and their
business that then goes into a nonprofit fund that then
we're going to use those funds to replicate this this concept, right,
so more businesses will get in. And this is not
just with Hyatt, you know, this is a it's a
much bigger concept. But wow. Yeah, So those are three
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major things we're working on right now.
Speaker 2 (10:26):
You know. I'm just I'm starting to smirk over here
a little bit. And yours because I remember, and I
brought this up on the air to you, Doug a
couple of times that you and I once had a conversation.
I think you're maybe two or three years away from
leaving the NFL, and you said that when I'm done
playing football, remember this the sun You said, you'll never
hear from me again. Ever, You'll never see from me.
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I'll be gone, I'm going back to Florida whatever, right,
And what you're describing is the exact opposite of that.
I mean, not only have you not gone away, you're
more involved now than you were when you played fall.
So where did this come from? For a kid? And
that was a kid that I was talking to back
in the day, right who said I want to be done?
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What happened in your life that led you from a
spot of I want to be finished? I'm gonna go away.
I don't want to deal with this to doing the
exact opposite of what you said you'd do.
Speaker 3 (11:16):
Yeah, I mean, the hope is that everybody grows right
and mature. No, I've just I've been around some incredible
human beings who have poured into me and invested into
me and then allowed me to see something greater than
myself and allowed me to pursue passions that I'm very
excited about. You know, when I retired, I went to
go work for Intellectual Adventures, and I met Jerome Hewlett
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over there, and you know, an incredible human being with
a vast history and story all in his own, but
he basically gave me this opportunity to learn from him
and explore the business world, but explore the way that
I wanted to do it, right. You know, we will
get into a lot of topics today, but the concept
of capitalism really bothers me on the surface level, right,
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And so I didn't want to just be in the
system of capitalism and playing the game within capitalism. I
wanted to sit on top of capitalism and use it
to the benefit of other people, not just from my
own pocketbook.
Speaker 2 (12:09):
Right.
Speaker 3 (12:10):
And I've been fortunate enough again to meet some incredible people,
work with some incredible people, and so I'm in that
team atmosphere again. I get to build culture. I get
to work with, you know, some incredible people, and we
get to go out and attack really really challenging problems.
And I love that and I needed that, and I
didn't know that I needed that, Yeah, right, yeah, And
so I feel like at this stage in my life,
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I am truly in my passion and so I'm I'm
just doing what feels right.
Speaker 2 (12:37):
I love it well. I think it's first of all,
good for you. And then number two, it's not often
that people can do that in life, where they're continuously
stimulated by something like that. I mean, I've been doing
this now for thirty years, and there's a part of
me that looks at this is kind of old hat, right,
and you're always looking for new challenges and you know,
doing things with you and things off the you know,
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off the mic and all that. But what I told
Doug and is when he showed up here, is that
there's no topic off limits today. Not one. Okay, he's
got well, we might piss some people off, but you
can do that and then I'll handle it and clean
it up. Tomorrow when I come back and you're doing
your other thing. That's the difference is I gotta come
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back tomorrow and you don't. But you you, you, You
obviously have been very outspoken. I mean, look, we saw
that when you played, right, We saw when you played
that you were very outspoken. We talked about how you
were one of the first people that the media would
go to for reaction to something. And there's a reason
for that because you talked, because you shared your opinion. Right.
There's some guys that were not that way. They were
a little quieter, maybe a little more tuku whatever. You know.
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I can think of a couple guys on defense that
were like that, but you were that guy. So I'm
not surprised by any of this that that you are
as outspoken as you are. I do wonder though, for
the football fans out there, and I would just want
to start off with this general conversation, stick to sports.
You've heard that a lot, and I kind of evolved
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in my take on what that means to people over
the years, and it's not a straight line. It's kind
of a roller coaster. I've got two steps forward, three
steps back, one step forward, two steps back, on that.
Depending on the situation, I might have a different take
on that. But when and maybe it's more for people
that while they're playing, for example, But when you heard
people say things like that, Hey, why don't you shut
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up and dribble? Why don't you stick to sports? What's
your reaction to that? Then? What's your reaction of that?
Speaker 3 (14:27):
Now?
Speaker 2 (14:28):
And then I'll tell you what I think about it.
By the way, I'm dying to hear what you what
you think of what I think? Man, I'm getting heavy
here already. No, I love it, not even three thirty
by the way. And I appreciate the question. I do
appreciate the question because this is what I came here for,
so thank you. I think back then, obviously, as a
young man, still trying to find my place and find
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my value in the world. You know, those derogatory comments
devalued who I was as a human being, right. Yes,
I understand that I'm in the entertainment industry, right, but
I'm still a human being at the end of the day.
And a lot of these topics that were at you know,
the height of the conversation during my time playing. They
impacted me not only as a young man in America,
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a young black man in America, but also a young
man that had aspirations of having a family so that
at some point would have children that would be in
this world and be impacted by those comments, by those decisions,
by those actions, right, And so it was it mattered
to me, and I didn't want to just like, you know,
brush it off and not address it, because it felt
it was important enough to me to address it head
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on and be like, look, no, this is a different
perspective that needs to be valued and appreciated. It needs
to be heard, and if it's not, then what are
we doing here?
Speaker 3 (15:44):
Right? Am I just a zoo animal? I'm just a
zoo animal for your entertainment? Right? And then that gets
into a whole other slew of things that you know,
I'm sure we will unpack, but I do want to
hear about your response to that.
Speaker 2 (15:57):
Well. I, first of all, I think everybody has a
right to their opinion number one, period, end of story, right,
whether you like it or not. And I think typically
when somebody says something like stick to sports, they're saying
that because they don't agree with what you're saying. If
I had a political take or you know, whatever, a
non sports take that you agreed with. There's not stick
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to sports come in my way because you agree with
what I'm saying. You're saying that because you're angry at
what you're hearing. That's number one. Number two. There is
a part of me, though, that gets it, that does
get it, And I'll just kind of dumb it down
like this. If you walk into a Chinese restaurant, what
are you looking to eat Chinese food? Let's say they're
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servant pizza. But if you walk into an Italian restaurant,
you look for Italian and they're servantarioki, you get angry.
I come to a sports radio station like this or
any sports outlet to hear about sports. That's why I
made the choice to turn on that network, or turn
on that radio station, or follow that athlete on social media.
It's not that I don't care about that. I do
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care about all that, but at that time, I'm looking
for someone else. So I think that sometimes is why
people get because it's it's getting harder and harder to
escape it right now. And politics and sports is nothing new.
It's been a thing for one hundred years, right and
going back to the thirties, for God's sakes. But I
think people look for an escape a little bit, for sure,
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And just because they don't want to hear it from you,
doesn't mean they never want to hear about it. They
just don't want to hear about it now. So what
I've learned is that, hey, why not give people what
they want and also provide as many platforms as possible
to give as many people as possible a different angle
on something. I think about Start another Twitter account, have
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a different Facebook page, right, start a second ig account
to share opinions like that. But when I'm on my
Twitter account as Dave Softy Moler from KJR Radio, and
every now and then I will share something nonsports wise.
But for the most part, ninety nine point ninety nine
percent here's about sports. If I wanted to share a
different opinion on something outside of my arena, which is
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how I became who I became, I have another Twitter
account and I can go there.
Speaker 3 (18:09):
I hear you.
Speaker 2 (18:10):
Is that unfair?
Speaker 3 (18:12):
No, I don't think it's unfair. Let me just offer
a different perspective. If you walk into your house and
your house is on fire, and you say, oh, I'm home, No,
you don't you recognize that your house is on fire. Right, softly,
I love you. I know that you're a good man
and you've got a good heart. Right. I'm a black
man in America. I have a different perspective than you do.
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So when my country is on fire, when my community
is on fire, as a black man in America, I
have a responsibility to say something and have a responsibility
to do something. Why. That's because there's people who have
come before me, who have sacrificed their life so that
I can have the platform to be in here to
talk with you today, and I have an obligation to
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honor that and to do the work that I am
acquired and it's necessary of me to do so that
my children and my grandchildren have the opportunities that I have,
and more so that that is that's a non negotiable
for me. And so it doesn't matter if I'm in
sports radio, if I'm playing football, playing basketball, it doesn't matter.
If there's something that is important enough to me that
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matters to my community, my people, my family. I am
not going to hesitate to step up and take those
hits that is required for progress. I'm just I'm just
not going to negotiate.
Speaker 2 (19:31):
And I totally get that. And I tell you what
I love about what's going on right now. You know,
we you know, we need more of this for sure.
I mean we're just talking. You're sharing your take, I'm
sharing my take, and I can tell there might be
some things that we disagree on, and that's okay, that's okay,
but we need to do more of this. And when
I mean this, I mean in person, I mean voice, Tom,
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I mean get off social media. Stop having conversations on
ig stop having conversations because people doug what I have realized,
and we're late for a break. I knew this would happen,
by the way. Okay, people start to form their reality
based on what they see on social media, and that
is ridiculous, totally ridiculous.
Speaker 3 (20:13):
It's false.
Speaker 2 (20:13):
It's false. When I get angry about things that I see,
I see them on social media.
Speaker 3 (20:18):
But that's why social media is the business that it is.
I know, we got to go to break, but that's
the business that it is. It's geared towards creating outrage
because that's what creates clicks, that's what creates engagement, and
that's what creates money for that system.
Speaker 2 (20:30):
Let's let's do this. This can be a fun show.
We've got text line open at four nine, four or
five to one if you want to hit Doug up
with something. We got textimonials, we got some fun with audio.
We're going to have John Wilner talking some college football
on the air. We may have a couple of special
guests or two between now and seven o'clock as well.
Doug Baldwin in for Dick Fane right here on a
Tuesday afternoon on ninety three to three KJRFM, Live.
Speaker 1 (20:57):
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Speaker 2 (21:10):
All right, Softie, Dick Jackson, Dick out Jackson and Andrews
in for Jackson. Doug Baldwin's in for Dick Fane with
the text line lighting up like a Christmas tree right now.
Some good, some bad, but it's all there, man, it's
all People are engaged, right and that's a good thing.
I think you and I were talking, you know, on
the air last segment about not doing enough of this
talking in person about a lot of stuff We're gonna
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delve into every topic there is to dive into, right,
I mean, heck, you were talking off the air last night,
and by the way, Doug did a radio veteran thing
to me Andrews during the break. I was about to
start making a poison. Nope, nope, save it for the air.
Save it for the air. So he's already getting after
twenty minutes, how to do this job. It's taken me
thirty years to figure it out. It took this guy
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twenty minutes. You said you were watching the Democrat the
Demicra National Convention last night, and you had maybe a
different take than I thought you would.
Speaker 3 (22:06):
Yeah, I mean, I just I had a challenge with
some of the narrative there because it's a lot of negativity,
you know. And listen, I was one of the first
people to call Donald Trump an idiot, and I you know,
I wish I wouldn't have said it that way. I
tried to because well, I did try to clean it
up after I said it look like he's a human being, like.
Speaker 2 (22:27):
You said this to the media back when you were playing. Yeah,
I do remember that, right.
Speaker 3 (22:31):
You know, he's a human being, so I want to
respect him. As such, right, And I don't have the
context of you know, how he grew up in that
environment and you know what he was taught, and so
that all formulates his opinion in his view of the world. So,
you know, I want to give grace to that, because
we all come from you know what we come from.
But I just I watched that event last night, and
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you know, I think you know this, I do lean
more democrat, I do lean more liberal, right, I would
like to say I'm more of a moderate liberal in
a lot of ways. But I didn't like the negativity
and I didn't like it was just kind of stuck
on negative things in the past. You know, if it
was me, like, let's let's talk about what's coming, what's
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what's the future look like. Give me hope, give me joy,
give me something to be celebrated for. You know this,
I get it. You want to you want to show
the contrast. But listen, America already knows the contrast, right,
We don't need you to harp on the contrast. Talk
about what you're going to do. Tell me, give me
something to aspire for.
Speaker 2 (23:35):
Interesting.
Speaker 3 (23:35):
Yeah, So I just I thought it was a missed opportunity.
Although it is all weak, So you know, I'm sure
more will come. I wasn't really plugged into it like that,
so I may be missing some things. But I just
you know, the little bit that I did watch, I
had that reaction.
Speaker 2 (23:49):
I think one thing that people in this industry have
a hard time saying is I don't know. I don't know. Yeah,
I didn't watch it last night. I don't have any
take on right. I mean, I mean I could sit
there and tell you what I think I would think
if I watched it, But I didn't watch it. Right,
I was doing it, you asked me off the ear,
did you watch his said no, I had plans. I
was doing stuff with some pals and with the wife.
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So I have no idea what was going on last night.
I do know this that, like we said last segment,
politics and sports is getting more and more unavoidable. And
it's funny what people think of politics and what is
think of thought of as political. Like what your old
coach Jim Harboss said the other day. Did you hear that?
Speaker 3 (24:29):
I didn't.
Speaker 2 (24:29):
Well, he apparently offered Colin Kaepernick a coaching job with
the Chargers. You saw that, and so, well, this is
a political arena. Okay, is it he just offered the
guy a coaching job. I mean, for God's sake, you're
the one making it political. We're talking about just offering
a guy a job. And then it brought up all
these old stories and conversations about when he took a
knee and Dan Levittard is on his broadcast saying they
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can never repay Colin Kaepernick, you know, for what they
did to him by blackballing him from the NFL, And
it brought up all those conversations about, hey, if you
run a business, if you're an NFL owner, which in
the end, you're running a business, no question about it.
And the Seahawks had a chance to sign this guy.
Remember when Pete said he was basically too good to
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be a second string quarterback behind Russell Wilson. Yeah, I
think I remember that, right, which I thought was kind
of code for, hey, we're not going to bring this
distraction on for a guy that's not going to play
if he's playing and starting maybe a different story, but
as a backup whatever. So then it brings up the
conversation to teams, we'll have the right, of course, have
the right to do whatever they want. Does it make sense.
(25:34):
Is it logical for a team to say, Hey, this
guy deserves a shot, but we just can't handle the
heat man, We can't handle what it would do to
our bottom line and our business when we've got hundreds
of millions of dollars on the line. How would you
respond to that?
Speaker 3 (25:47):
I would say that that's short sighted. The same reason
when people talk about diversity, equity and inclusion right in
the workforce, it is proven that more diverse companies, the diverse,
the more diverse a company is, the better they do
on their bottom line. And the reason being is because
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just like anything else you've heard, when you invest in
a portfolio, they always tell you what diversify your portfolio
right right? Because it mitigates against risk. It's the same
thing in business. If you have diverse people, diverse perspectives
looking at a problem, you can solve that problem from
different angles. You can come at it from different approaches.
It's no different now. I think with the NFL it's
shortsighted in that you know, it is a what have
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you done for me lately? Business? What are you doing
for me right now?
Speaker 2 (26:32):
Right right?
Speaker 3 (26:33):
But I do think that if it was the right culture,
the right team, with the right ownership, the right front
front office. You bring in Colin Kaepernick, and if you
put all of the right resources around him and he's
able to replicate what he did in San Francisco.
Speaker 2 (26:48):
Right, you're talking Kaepernick now or Kaepernick like six years ago.
Speaker 3 (26:51):
I'm talking about Kaepernick. Yeah, when when you first start playing, gotcha? Yeah,
if you put all of the right aspects around him,
there is an opportunity to create a culture and a
movement within that, within that culture that would be incredibly powerful.
Now you know that, that's it's a risk, right yea,
just like anything else. But I think that was the
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opportunity that could have potentially been there. But was there
the right ownership, was it the right team? Was it
the right opportunity? I can't say that.
Speaker 2 (27:23):
And so did it bother you that the Seahawks didn't
give him a chance?
Speaker 3 (27:26):
No, not at all. Why not because he wasn't going
to come in and play, you know, and we at
that time we had I think we had a good
situation at quarterback and the backup quarterback, So it was like,
you know, what is what is the true purpose here?
Speaker 2 (27:42):
Jana was here right when that was going on, as
the backup? Was it gena leave?
Speaker 3 (27:45):
So I'm not sure, I'm not I think it was.
I remember, I don't remember exactly the all the details
around it, and just remember the emotion behind it. I
was like, we're kind of set here right, right, and
so like, what would be the what would be the
reason to bring it bring him in? Right? Would the
reason be to bring him in just to create this
you know, this this media narrative and this media circus.
Speaker 2 (28:07):
Just to say we did it, we gave him a shot.
Speaker 3 (28:09):
I mean, I hear you, But that's that's also.
Speaker 2 (28:12):
I'm not saying that's what I would say. I'm saying
that's that would have been the reason, right, But at
that point in time, and you're cool with it all
being football driven at that point.
Speaker 3 (28:21):
Yes. However, back to my point, if it was the
right opportunity, the right culture, the right leadership, the right ownership,
I think it could have worked. But that's you know,
that's a very narrow window to make that happen. If
it was the Seahawks to bring him in. Again, I'm thinking, like,
why are we doing this? Is this a circus media
that we're trying to create? And if you're doing that
then you're just tokenizing him, and then that's more disrespectful.
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I'm glad that we didn't make that decision, although I
do think a Kaepernick at that time it is capable
of being a winning quarterback in the NFL well for
the right opportunity.
Speaker 2 (28:52):
I remember watching, obviously him play in the NFC Championship
and being scared to death of that guy.
Speaker 3 (28:58):
Many battles against.
Speaker 2 (28:59):
Them Hacker game at Lambeau when he ran all over
those dudes. I mean, yeah, he could play for sure,
no doubt. But I'm trying to remember. We got a
couple minutes left in this segment, but I'm trying to
remember you during that period in time, you did not
take a knee.
Speaker 3 (29:14):
I did not.
Speaker 2 (29:14):
Why not during the anthem?
Speaker 3 (29:18):
I mean, that was just not how I wanted to
show up. So what I did was I stood with
my hands behind my back and my head down, and
I just prayed. I prayed not only for the folks
that were, you know, on the front lines doing what
was necessary for us to get things changed, but also
for the families that were affected by this, both civilians
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and law enforcement, and also for all of the people
who have come before me. My grandfather. Both of my
grandfathers were in the military, you know, so that part
of it mattered to me. And when I say that
they were in the military, I mean they were in
the military at a time they were serving their country
when their country did not serve them, you feel what
I'm saying. So there's a whole bunch of complexities there
that I just felt at the that time my role
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in the bigger picture was to do what I did,
and I felt like I was effective in that and
I was able to bridge some of the divide in
some ways. Yeah, I nine forty got passed right, right,
more resources for law enforcement to uh to be less aggressive,
right and and to de escalate situations, which you know,
(30:23):
I'm hoping, like we've already seen some impact of that,
but I'm hoping over the long term it's better for
our community. So I just felt like that was the
right choice for me in that moment, for me personally.
Speaker 2 (30:33):
I gotta tell you, this is a bit of a
different theme and a different kind of energy than we
normally have on this show. Andrews will tell you mostly
it's like football and fart jokes on the air for
four hours, So we really appreciate you coming over here
and kind of raising the IQ up a couple of points.
But we're gonna we're gonna get to fun with audio. Well,
we're gonna play some clips for you. Have you respond
to him? T Jack Deavaris. Jackson was the backup by
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the way then when that whole thing went down. So phenomenal, dude,
no question about it. But we'll do We're gonna break
Doug Baldwin's with us tonight text lines open four, nine,
four or five one. May have a couple of special
guests depending on some schedules as well. We'll do some
fun with audio though at Doug next on ninety three
three KJRFM.
Speaker 1 (31:16):
It's now time for something in Dig's Fun with Audio.
Speaker 2 (31:19):
Jimmy Gawn Star, Jimmy mister garoppolo. Now let's have some
fun with audio, all right, We're gonna take Doug Baldwin
down the fun with Audio road here on the radio show.
I know Doug woke up this morning he thought, you
know what if we accomplish anything filling in for Dick
fanning the show, I want to do funn with audio.
Speaker 1 (31:37):
Damn it.
Speaker 2 (31:37):
I want to be a part of fun with Audio
on the air. So I gave you simple instructions, did
I not? In the break? Do you remember those instructions?
Speaker 3 (31:45):
You said, no, I don't remember.
Speaker 2 (31:49):
You are what did I tell you? You? Just like me, man,
You tell me something three minutes later, I'll forget it.
Speaker 3 (31:56):
We talked about fifteen thousand other.
Speaker 2 (31:58):
Things, most of them way more important than this, by
the way, So I ask you, hey, Doug, have you
heard that? And I got to do is say what's
that softy?
Speaker 3 (32:06):
What's that softy?
Speaker 2 (32:06):
Right? Three?
Speaker 1 (32:07):
Two?
Speaker 2 (32:07):
One? Hey Doug? Have you heard that?
Speaker 3 (32:08):
What's that soft what's that dick?
Speaker 2 (32:10):
I had a Fox's coverage of the NFL preseason. Former
Patriot wide receiver Julian Elman, you know that name, by
the way, gave his pick for the team to make
it out of the AFC this upcoming season.
Speaker 4 (32:22):
I've learned my lesson. I'm never betting against the Chiefs again. Okay,
I will never bet against I lost a lot of money.
But it's not up to the Chiefs. We all know
what the Chiefs are. They got any Ray, Patrick Mahomes,
s pag Nola, Chris Jones and everyone.
Speaker 2 (32:35):
It's up to everyone else.
Speaker 4 (32:37):
We need to see a Joe Burrow, come out and
do something, stay healthy, start fast. You need to see
Lamar Jackson, who's been on a milk carton in the playoffs,
so he's missing, and then you know, you got to
see the other guys. There's gonna be a dark horseman.
Speaker 2 (32:49):
But right now your money is on the chief. I'll
go with the chiefs Lamar Jackson turns into a milk
carton come playoff time, he goes hey wall, he goes missing.
What do you think of that? When you hear that?
Speaker 3 (33:02):
I don't watch enough football anymore to tell you to
be honest, I really don't. I mean, I like I
like Lamar Jackson's game. I think he's a phenomenal, dynamic quarterback.
Speaker 1 (33:12):
Right.
Speaker 3 (33:13):
It's true they haven't beat the Chiefs. They haven't, you know,
gotten to that level. But yep, it is the Chief though,
it's Patchion Mahomes, it's baby Goat. So that's right. You're
not really saying much.
Speaker 2 (33:24):
And daddy go to is Tom Brady? All?
Speaker 3 (33:27):
Yeah, I guess so.
Speaker 2 (33:30):
You want to give us a different alternative there?
Speaker 3 (33:33):
No, I mean I can't. I just I'm I'm still
bitter about forty nine.
Speaker 2 (33:37):
Oh yeah, what you should be by the way bother
me for the rest of my life.
Speaker 3 (33:42):
I mean, I'm if I'm being honest, I'm probably about
ninety five percent over it. But really, I can't you know,
when it's brought up or when I hear, when I
see any of those colors, it's just it's still it
still bothers me.
Speaker 2 (33:52):
So I hadn't even thought of that when I mentioned
Brady and then you mentioned that game and I started
a little bit like short circuiting. For sure, that's what
happens to me. And I'm not even close to ninety
five percent. So show me the way. How do I
do that? I think all of Seattle, eleven years later
would love to know. We'll talk about that later because
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that's a much bigger conversation. All right, Let's see if
you paid attention, Hey, Doug, did you happen to hear that?
Speaker 3 (34:18):
What's that? Softy?
Speaker 2 (34:19):
What's that dick? During a press conference after practice, Oklahoma
State head coach Mike Gundy, he's a man, he's forty
made his thoughts knowing about the transfer portal process pretty
clear when asked about negotiating ANIL deals for players.
Speaker 5 (34:34):
The business side of what we do now is is
we have to have those conversations with them, you know,
tell your agent to quit callingists and asking for more money.
It's non negotiable now to start to get in December.
So now we're able to direct ourselves just at football,
and that part is fun because there's been so much
other stuff going on, it's been hard to really focus
(34:54):
on football.
Speaker 2 (34:55):
What do you make of that?
Speaker 3 (34:57):
I mean, it is what it is. You you open
the door for the business side of it, and let's
be honest, the business side was already there. It just
wasn't open to the players, and now it is and
that's just it is what it is. So you know,
I hear him though, Like football at the purest level
is a beautiful thing. Business always interrupts that. But at
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the end of the day, it is business now, So yeah,
it is what it is.
Speaker 2 (35:20):
I think there's a bigger nil conversation I want to
have with you, because is it possible that what is
good for the goose is not good for the gander
when it comes to nil? Right? I mean, I love
that players have this opportunity. I'm still early though, no,
no doubt this is going to evolve for sure, but
I think we've got to have that conversation later on
the day as well. All right, hey, Doug, did you
(35:41):
happen to hear that?
Speaker 3 (35:41):
What's that soft?
Speaker 2 (35:42):
What's that?
Speaker 3 (35:43):
Dick?
Speaker 2 (35:43):
By the way, you know what that is. That's hum
Mellon talking to Dick Fane. Okay, just like that. In
the pre fight height build up to Jake Paul versus
Mike Tyson, Jake Paul had some choice words for the
New York crowd when they started booing him at a
press conference. New York, shut the fuck up, New York,
do yourselves? Who yourself? New York?
Speaker 6 (36:06):
Hey, New York, New York, New York. You're just like
Mike Tyson. You were good twenty years ago, you New
York dumbass democratic city.
Speaker 2 (36:18):
Wow. You should see the look on Doug Trace. You
know what this is. This is all set up, oh
for sure, to conjure up an emotion in you, Jake Paul.
I'm talking in general and get your money. That's why
they're doing all of this. And you're you don't look
like you're falling for it.
Speaker 3 (36:38):
No, listen, I don't, I don't I don't subscribe to
Jake Paul. I don't follow Jake Paul, I don't really
care about what Jake Paul has to say.
Speaker 2 (36:48):
You're gonna watch the Jake Paul Tyson.
Speaker 3 (36:49):
I am gonna watch and hoping Mike Tyson knocks the
piss out. Of of course. Look, I will say this,
I think Jake Paul has done a great job of
mark get himself right. But I do think he's still
a young man and a lot of the things that
he's doing and saying he's going to have to reconcile
with at some point in his life. So you know, wow,
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but good luck to him.
Speaker 2 (37:11):
Yeah, but see again, this is this is all set
up to get somebody out there to have some kind
of emotional reaction to spend the money. Is it Netflix?
Is that right? Has the fight? I don't know to
spend the money on Netflix.
Speaker 3 (37:22):
I'm gonna go over Ja Mainshouse and watch We're Gonna Break.
Speaker 2 (37:26):
John Wilder is gonna hop on for a few John
Wilder Andrews was the beat writer for the San Jose
Mercury News when this guy played for Jim Harbor at Stanford.
We'll talk to him next on ninety three to three
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and now through goofy Waco out of touchholders radio, just
for the Pole live forty one yards from Elliott Bay.
Can you feel it now? This is softy and dim.
I had all these crazy plans for this guy over here,
all these bells and whistles set up, Get this guy on,
get that guy in reque, this queue up, that they
(02:15):
oh we eight thing from the Super Bowl media day,
all that blah blah blah, all kinds of crazy questions.
But when you have an opportunity, Andrews, to get in
one of the greatest Seahawks wide receivers of all time
and really a damn fine American and a damn good
guy and a great guy for the community, you just
simply put sit back and just enjoy the opportunity you have.
Shut the hell up and get out of the way.
(02:37):
Let's put our hands together, Anders. Doug Baldwin finally in
studio with us, after fifteen years of begging him, begging
him to get on down here and do the radio show.
Hit that big red button there that Doug that says on,
Doug Baldwin is with us here co hosting until six pm.
Speaker 3 (02:55):
How are you, pal, I'm doing excellent.
Speaker 2 (02:57):
So good to see it. Is this weird? Is it
weird for you being here in this element after all
those years when you and I talked in the locker room,
going to that corner where you're hanging out doing your thing.
You're always the first guy I kind of sought out.
And now you're here in my world, baby, here in
my area. Does this feel weird to you?
Speaker 1 (03:17):
No?
Speaker 3 (03:17):
I feel at home. Thank you for the opportunity. I'm
grateful for all the memories that we've created over the years. Yeah,
and being able to share this moment, Well.
Speaker 2 (03:28):
It's yeah. Let's see how you fill at seven o'clock tonight.
All right, when the show's over, well, check in and
ask you about the experience then. But it's funny. I
went and saw my mom today. My mom lives in
a little adult family home area and there's about three
or four people there, and one of the gals, her
name's Nancy. I told her that you were on the
show today because they all want to know, Hey, what's
going on? What are you talking about? Most of the time,
(03:48):
I have no idea flip on at three o'clock, whatever
pops out of my mouth is what you'll get. And
I said to Nancy, I said, hey, Nancy. Because he's
a big Seahawk fan, Doug Baldwin is doing the show today,
she says, Oh, the guy that owns the rec center.
She knows you more for that than she does for
you being a player.
Speaker 3 (04:04):
Amen.
Speaker 2 (04:05):
I mean, there's a lot of this has been how
many years now since you retired from the NFL years
five years? So, I mean, if you're a you know, nine, ten, eleven,
twelve year old kid, you don't really have a lot
of memory of eighty nine running around and maybe you
know Doug Baldwin for things off the field, do you
kind of feel like you're getting to that point where
you're starting to make a bigger impact off the field
(04:26):
than maybe you did on the field.
Speaker 3 (04:29):
I mean, I guess as for other people to determine,
I'm just you know, I'm just playing my part, doing
my role right now.
Speaker 2 (04:34):
Yeah, Well, what are you doing? Let's just start there?
Are you? You've been on here a couple of times
talking about life after football, fatherhood, You're a husband, you're
a dad, Obviously, you're an activist, there's no question about that.
You're involved with a lot of aspects of things happening
around the region. But tell folks kind of what what
does Doug Baldwin's typical day look like these days?
Speaker 3 (04:55):
Well, I get up in the morning and I get
to work with some incredible human beings, uh, solving challenging problems.
So I mean that's you know, if I gave you details,
it would just be an elaborate conversation about all the
things that we're in because we do have a number
of things that we're touching. But at the end of
the day, we're just we're vault eighty nine. The business
(05:16):
that I'm running is a problem solving entity. Wow. Essentially,
that's what it is.
Speaker 2 (05:20):
Wow. Okay, give us an example, right, if you want
to get the detail, go detail. You want to go hardcore,
go hardcore. Give us an idea for a guy that
used to solve problems on the field. Look at playbooks,
scheme defenses, all that. Give us an idea of what
maybe one challenge would make.
Speaker 3 (05:35):
I'll give you three examples because they're you know, just
leaving work, so my mind is there right now. But
one of them is with mental health and well being
for students. Right. So I'm sure you remember that you've
all day shootings that happened a few years ago in
Texas right as a as a new father at the time,
(05:55):
like that, just I couldn't help but be changed after
seeing that. Yeah, and so my thought process was like,
you know, my heart goes out to the families who
lost children, and you know, I can't even I can't
even touch that. I don't even know how to like
approach that. But as I was seeing, you know, kids
now have to come back to school, those kids who
(06:17):
went through that traumatic experience, how are they you know,
how are they being taken care of what's happening with them?
And so I stole this concept from the Seahawks. Actually,
so we would go into the Seahawks facility every day
and on the wall was an iPad, and it would
ask us several questions like, you know, well, rache your
soreness level, how was sleep last night? A whole bunch
of questions right to basically aggregate data to then determine
(06:39):
your workloads about the course of the week to get
you to peak performance on Sunday, right, right, right, So
we took that concept and we're built We've built an app.
It's a web application, so it doesn't necessarily have to
be on a phone or anything. But the students come
into class, they're asked three questions, how are you doing today?
Did you eat this? Morning, How was sleep last night?
(07:00):
Surface level questions that really get into a much deeper
understanding of your students are doing.
Speaker 2 (07:07):
Right. If they're not eating, for example, then alarm bells
are going off. Yeah right.
Speaker 3 (07:11):
I mean just a lot of things right that come
from those three questions. But we're aggregating that data to
then display it to the teachers, the counselors, the administrators,
and the school district as a whole, so they can
see how their student body is doing in real time
and make better informed decisions. So that's one thing we
just announce the way, thank you, thank you use for
(07:34):
something more than just sports performance. Another thing was one
of our biggest partners is Safeway. Shout out the Safe Way.
They do a lot of work in the community. Shout
out to my homie Sarah. Safeway throws away a lot
of food every week. I don't want to give you
know too much because it's just it doesn't feel right,
but they throw away a lot of food just it's
(07:55):
the industry. It's just you know, regulations all the things.
But that food can still be utilized. It's still edible
food if you get it to people the same day,
and so in partnership with Safeway, and in partnership with
an organization called Feeding Feasible Feast, and with the City
of Seattle. We are basically building an integrated logistics system
(08:17):
that's going to pick up that food and deliver it
to folks who need it that day to consume it
that day. And softly, when I say it's a lot
of food, it is a lot of food.
Speaker 2 (08:27):
Can you give us just an idea tons? It's in
the tons like metric tons.
Speaker 3 (08:34):
Yeah. And this is not a problem just in the
city of Seattle. This is a problem across the country,
across the globe. And so if we get this right,
we think this is replicatable, you know, everywhere, So replicable, replicatable,
you know what I mean. So that's another one of
the things. And then one thing one that we just
(08:54):
started not too long ago, which I'm very excited about,
so building a relationship with Hyatt. Shout out to Hyatt.
I really like what they're trying to do internally. They
have a policy internally that they're mandating ten percent of
their procurement dollars have to go towards black owned businesses.
So they're diversifying their vendors and service providers and they're
tying their GMS bonuses to that number. Incent advises them
(09:19):
to find these businesses right in the process, they're finding
businesses that they want to work with. But these businesses
don't necessarily have the infrastructure to scale up to meet
the quantity demands that Hyatt is asking for. And so
we've stepped in as a partner with Hyatta to work
with these businesses to get them investment to scale up
so that they can meet those demands or the quantity demands.
The first company that we got in is Boone Boona
(09:41):
the coffee shop, and we just announced that partnership today.
It's a big deal. It's a really really big deal.
And you know when you think of this concept as like, okay,
so you know what outside of this are you doing
then just making more money off of this. So the
beautiful thing is that the partnership, then the revenue that
we get from the investment on these businesses goes into
(10:02):
a nonprofit fund. So it's a text right off of
these businesses, right, non deluted equity in there and their
business that then goes into a nonprofit fund that then
we're going to use those funds to replicate this this concept, right,
so more businesses will get in. And this is not
just with Hyatt, you know, this is a it's a
much bigger concept. But wow. Yeah, So those are three
(10:24):
major things we're working on right now.
Speaker 2 (10:26):
You know. I'm just I'm starting to smirk over here
a little bit. And yours because I remember, and I
brought this up on the air to you, Doug a
couple of times that you and I once had a conversation.
I think you're maybe two or three years away from
leaving the NFL, and you said that when I'm done
playing football, remember this the sun You said, you'll never
hear from me again. Ever, You'll never see from me.
(10:46):
I'll be gone, I'm going back to Florida whatever, right,
And what you're describing is the exact opposite of that.
I mean, not only have you not gone away, you're
more involved now than you were when you played fall.
So where did this come from? For a kid? And
that was a kid that I was talking to back
in the day, right who said I want to be done?
(11:07):
What happened in your life that led you from a
spot of I want to be finished? I'm gonna go away.
I don't want to deal with this to doing the
exact opposite of what you said you'd do.
Speaker 3 (11:16):
Yeah, I mean, the hope is that everybody grows right
and mature. No, I've just I've been around some incredible
human beings who have poured into me and invested into
me and then allowed me to see something greater than
myself and allowed me to pursue passions that I'm very
excited about. You know, when I retired, I went to
go work for Intellectual Adventures, and I met Jerome Hewlett
(11:38):
over there, and you know, an incredible human being with
a vast history and story all in his own, but
he basically gave me this opportunity to learn from him
and explore the business world, but explore the way that
I wanted to do it, right. You know, we will
get into a lot of topics today, but the concept
of capitalism really bothers me on the surface level, right,
(12:00):
And so I didn't want to just be in the
system of capitalism and playing the game within capitalism. I
wanted to sit on top of capitalism and use it
to the benefit of other people, not just from my
own pocketbook.
Speaker 2 (12:09):
Right.
Speaker 3 (12:10):
And I've been fortunate enough again to meet some incredible people,
work with some incredible people, and so I'm in that
team atmosphere again. I get to build culture. I get
to work with, you know, some incredible people, and we
get to go out and attack really really challenging problems.
And I love that and I needed that, and I
didn't know that I needed that, Yeah, right, yeah, And
so I feel like at this stage in my life,
(12:31):
I am truly in my passion and so I'm I'm
just doing what feels right.
Speaker 2 (12:37):
I love it well. I think it's first of all,
good for you. And then number two, it's not often
that people can do that in life, where they're continuously
stimulated by something like that. I mean, I've been doing
this now for thirty years, and there's a part of
me that looks at this is kind of old hat, right,
and you're always looking for new challenges and you know,
doing things with you and things off the you know,
(12:57):
off the mic and all that. But what I told
Doug and is when he showed up here, is that
there's no topic off limits today. Not one. Okay, he's
got well, we might piss some people off, but you
can do that and then I'll handle it and clean
it up. Tomorrow when I come back and you're doing
your other thing. That's the difference is I gotta come
(13:18):
back tomorrow and you don't. But you you, you, You
obviously have been very outspoken. I mean, look, we saw
that when you played, right, We saw when you played
that you were very outspoken. We talked about how you
were one of the first people that the media would
go to for reaction to something. And there's a reason
for that because you talked, because you shared your opinion. Right.
There's some guys that were not that way. They were
a little quieter, maybe a little more tuku whatever. You know.
(13:40):
I can think of a couple guys on defense that
were like that, but you were that guy. So I'm
not surprised by any of this that that you are
as outspoken as you are. I do wonder though, for
the football fans out there, and I would just want
to start off with this general conversation, stick to sports.
You've heard that a lot, and I kind of evolved
(14:01):
in my take on what that means to people over
the years, and it's not a straight line. It's kind
of a roller coaster. I've got two steps forward, three
steps back, one step forward, two steps back, on that.
Depending on the situation, I might have a different take
on that. But when and maybe it's more for people
that while they're playing, for example, But when you heard
people say things like that, Hey, why don't you shut
(14:21):
up and dribble? Why don't you stick to sports? What's
your reaction to that? Then? What's your reaction of that?
Speaker 3 (14:27):
Now?
Speaker 2 (14:28):
And then I'll tell you what I think about it.
By the way, I'm dying to hear what you what
you think of what I think? Man, I'm getting heavy
here already. No, I love it, not even three thirty
by the way. And I appreciate the question. I do
appreciate the question because this is what I came here for,
so thank you. I think back then, obviously, as a
young man, still trying to find my place and find
(14:48):
my value in the world. You know, those derogatory comments
devalued who I was as a human being, right. Yes,
I understand that I'm in the entertainment industry, right, but
I'm still a human being at the end of the day.
And a lot of these topics that were at you know,
the height of the conversation during my time playing. They
impacted me not only as a young man in America,
(15:12):
a young black man in America, but also a young
man that had aspirations of having a family so that
at some point would have children that would be in
this world and be impacted by those comments, by those decisions,
by those actions, right, And so it was it mattered
to me, and I didn't want to just like, you know,
brush it off and not address it, because it felt
it was important enough to me to address it head
(15:34):
on and be like, look, no, this is a different
perspective that needs to be valued and appreciated. It needs
to be heard, and if it's not, then what are
we doing here?
Speaker 3 (15:44):
Right? Am I just a zoo animal? I'm just a
zoo animal for your entertainment? Right? And then that gets
into a whole other slew of things that you know,
I'm sure we will unpack, but I do want to
hear about your response to that.
Speaker 2 (15:57):
Well. I, first of all, I think everybody has a
right to their opinion number one, period, end of story, right,
whether you like it or not. And I think typically
when somebody says something like stick to sports, they're saying
that because they don't agree with what you're saying. If
I had a political take or you know, whatever, a
non sports take that you agreed with. There's not stick
(16:18):
to sports come in my way because you agree with
what I'm saying. You're saying that because you're angry at
what you're hearing. That's number one. Number two. There is
a part of me, though, that gets it, that does
get it, And I'll just kind of dumb it down
like this. If you walk into a Chinese restaurant, what
are you looking to eat Chinese food? Let's say they're
(16:39):
servant pizza. But if you walk into an Italian restaurant,
you look for Italian and they're servantarioki, you get angry.
I come to a sports radio station like this or
any sports outlet to hear about sports. That's why I
made the choice to turn on that network, or turn
on that radio station, or follow that athlete on social media.
It's not that I don't care about that. I do
(17:01):
care about all that, but at that time, I'm looking
for someone else. So I think that sometimes is why
people get because it's it's getting harder and harder to
escape it right now. And politics and sports is nothing new.
It's been a thing for one hundred years, right and
going back to the thirties, for God's sakes. But I
think people look for an escape a little bit, for sure,
(17:23):
And just because they don't want to hear it from you,
doesn't mean they never want to hear about it. They
just don't want to hear about it now. So what
I've learned is that, hey, why not give people what
they want and also provide as many platforms as possible
to give as many people as possible a different angle
on something. I think about Start another Twitter account, have
(17:44):
a different Facebook page, right, start a second ig account
to share opinions like that. But when I'm on my
Twitter account as Dave Softy Moler from KJR Radio, and
every now and then I will share something nonsports wise.
But for the most part, ninety nine point ninety nine
percent here's about sports. If I wanted to share a
different opinion on something outside of my arena, which is
(18:05):
how I became who I became, I have another Twitter
account and I can go there.
Speaker 3 (18:09):
I hear you.
Speaker 2 (18:10):
Is that unfair?
Speaker 3 (18:12):
No, I don't think it's unfair. Let me just offer
a different perspective. If you walk into your house and
your house is on fire, and you say, oh, I'm home, No,
you don't you recognize that your house is on fire. Right, softly,
I love you. I know that you're a good man
and you've got a good heart. Right. I'm a black
man in America. I have a different perspective than you do.
(18:35):
So when my country is on fire, when my community
is on fire, as a black man in America, I
have a responsibility to say something and have a responsibility
to do something. Why. That's because there's people who have
come before me, who have sacrificed their life so that
I can have the platform to be in here to
talk with you today, and I have an obligation to
(18:57):
honor that and to do the work that I am
acquired and it's necessary of me to do so that
my children and my grandchildren have the opportunities that I have,
and more so that that is that's a non negotiable
for me. And so it doesn't matter if I'm in
sports radio, if I'm playing football, playing basketball, it doesn't matter.
If there's something that is important enough to me that
(19:19):
matters to my community, my people, my family. I am
not going to hesitate to step up and take those
hits that is required for progress. I'm just I'm just
not going to negotiate.
Speaker 2 (19:31):
And I totally get that. And I tell you what
I love about what's going on right now. You know,
we you know, we need more of this for sure.
I mean we're just talking. You're sharing your take, I'm
sharing my take, and I can tell there might be
some things that we disagree on, and that's okay, that's okay,
but we need to do more of this. And when
I mean this, I mean in person, I mean voice, Tom,
(19:53):
I mean get off social media. Stop having conversations on
ig stop having conversations because people doug what I have realized,
and we're late for a break. I knew this would happen,
by the way. Okay, people start to form their reality
based on what they see on social media, and that
is ridiculous, totally ridiculous.
Speaker 3 (20:13):
It's false.
Speaker 2 (20:13):
It's false. When I get angry about things that I see,
I see them on social media.
Speaker 3 (20:18):
But that's why social media is the business that it is.
I know, we got to go to break, but that's
the business that it is. It's geared towards creating outrage
because that's what creates clicks, that's what creates engagement, and
that's what creates money for that system.
Speaker 2 (20:30):
Let's let's do this. This can be a fun show.
We've got text line open at four nine, four or
five to one if you want to hit Doug up
with something. We got textimonials, we got some fun with audio.
We're going to have John Wilner talking some college football
on the air. We may have a couple of special
guests or two between now and seven o'clock as well.
Doug Baldwin in for Dick Fane right here on a
Tuesday afternoon on ninety three to three KJRFM, Live.
Speaker 1 (20:57):
From the R and R Foundation Specialists Broadcast Studio. Now
back to Softie and Dick on your Home for the
Huskies and the Kraken Sports Radio ninety three point three
kjr FM.
Speaker 2 (21:10):
All right, Softie, Dick Jackson, Dick out Jackson and Andrews
in for Jackson. Doug Baldwin's in for Dick Fane with
the text line lighting up like a Christmas tree right now.
Some good, some bad, but it's all there, man, it's
all People are engaged, right and that's a good thing.
I think you and I were talking, you know, on
the air last segment about not doing enough of this
talking in person about a lot of stuff We're gonna
(21:33):
delve into every topic there is to dive into, right,
I mean, heck, you were talking off the air last night,
and by the way, Doug did a radio veteran thing
to me Andrews during the break. I was about to
start making a poison. Nope, nope, save it for the air.
Save it for the air. So he's already getting after
twenty minutes, how to do this job. It's taken me
thirty years to figure it out. It took this guy
(21:55):
twenty minutes. You said you were watching the Democrat the
Demicra National Convention last night, and you had maybe a
different take than I thought you would.
Speaker 3 (22:06):
Yeah, I mean, I just I had a challenge with
some of the narrative there because it's a lot of negativity,
you know. And listen, I was one of the first
people to call Donald Trump an idiot, and I you know,
I wish I wouldn't have said it that way. I
tried to because well, I did try to clean it
up after I said it look like he's a human being, like.
Speaker 2 (22:27):
You said this to the media back when you were playing. Yeah,
I do remember that, right.
Speaker 3 (22:31):
You know, he's a human being, so I want to
respect him. As such, right, And I don't have the
context of you know, how he grew up in that
environment and you know what he was taught, and so
that all formulates his opinion in his view of the world. So,
you know, I want to give grace to that, because
we all come from you know what we come from.
But I just I watched that event last night, and
(22:54):
you know, I think you know this, I do lean
more democrat, I do lean more liberal, right, I would
like to say I'm more of a moderate liberal in
a lot of ways. But I didn't like the negativity
and I didn't like it was just kind of stuck
on negative things in the past. You know, if it
was me, like, let's let's talk about what's coming, what's
(23:16):
what's the future look like. Give me hope, give me joy,
give me something to be celebrated for. You know this,
I get it. You want to you want to show
the contrast. But listen, America already knows the contrast, right,
We don't need you to harp on the contrast. Talk
about what you're going to do. Tell me, give me
something to aspire for.
Speaker 2 (23:35):
Interesting.
Speaker 3 (23:35):
Yeah, So I just I thought it was a missed opportunity.
Although it is all weak, So you know, I'm sure
more will come. I wasn't really plugged into it like that,
so I may be missing some things. But I just
you know, the little bit that I did watch, I
had that reaction.
Speaker 2 (23:49):
I think one thing that people in this industry have
a hard time saying is I don't know. I don't know. Yeah,
I didn't watch it last night. I don't have any
take on right. I mean, I mean I could sit
there and tell you what I think I would think
if I watched it, But I didn't watch it. Right,
I was doing it, you asked me off the ear,
did you watch his said no, I had plans. I
was doing stuff with some pals and with the wife.
(24:10):
So I have no idea what was going on last night.
I do know this that, like we said last segment,
politics and sports is getting more and more unavoidable. And
it's funny what people think of politics and what is
think of thought of as political. Like what your old
coach Jim Harboss said the other day. Did you hear that?
Speaker 3 (24:29):
I didn't.
Speaker 2 (24:29):
Well, he apparently offered Colin Kaepernick a coaching job with
the Chargers. You saw that, and so, well, this is
a political arena. Okay, is it he just offered the
guy a coaching job. I mean, for God's sake, you're
the one making it political. We're talking about just offering
a guy a job. And then it brought up all
these old stories and conversations about when he took a
knee and Dan Levittard is on his broadcast saying they
(24:50):
can never repay Colin Kaepernick, you know, for what they
did to him by blackballing him from the NFL, And
it brought up all those conversations about, hey, if you
run a business, if you're an NFL owner, which in
the end, you're running a business, no question about it.
And the Seahawks had a chance to sign this guy.
Remember when Pete said he was basically too good to
(25:11):
be a second string quarterback behind Russell Wilson. Yeah, I
think I remember that, right, which I thought was kind
of code for, hey, we're not going to bring this
distraction on for a guy that's not going to play
if he's playing and starting maybe a different story, but
as a backup whatever. So then it brings up the
conversation to teams, we'll have the right, of course, have
the right to do whatever they want. Does it make sense.
(25:34):
Is it logical for a team to say, Hey, this
guy deserves a shot, but we just can't handle the
heat man, We can't handle what it would do to
our bottom line and our business when we've got hundreds
of millions of dollars on the line. How would you
respond to that?
Speaker 3 (25:47):
I would say that that's short sighted. The same reason
when people talk about diversity, equity and inclusion right in
the workforce, it is proven that more diverse companies, the diverse,
the more diverse a company is, the better they do
on their bottom line. And the reason being is because
(26:07):
just like anything else you've heard, when you invest in
a portfolio, they always tell you what diversify your portfolio
right right? Because it mitigates against risk. It's the same
thing in business. If you have diverse people, diverse perspectives
looking at a problem, you can solve that problem from
different angles. You can come at it from different approaches.
It's no different now. I think with the NFL it's
shortsighted in that you know, it is a what have
(26:29):
you done for me lately? Business? What are you doing
for me right now?
Speaker 2 (26:32):
Right right?
Speaker 3 (26:33):
But I do think that if it was the right culture,
the right team, with the right ownership, the right front
front office. You bring in Colin Kaepernick, and if you
put all of the right resources around him and he's
able to replicate what he did in San Francisco.
Speaker 2 (26:48):
Right, you're talking Kaepernick now or Kaepernick like six years ago.
Speaker 3 (26:51):
I'm talking about Kaepernick. Yeah, when when you first start playing, gotcha? Yeah,
if you put all of the right aspects around him,
there is an opportunity to create a culture and a
movement within that, within that culture that would be incredibly powerful.
Now you know that, that's it's a risk, right yea,
just like anything else. But I think that was the
(27:14):
opportunity that could have potentially been there. But was there
the right ownership, was it the right team? Was it
the right opportunity? I can't say that.
Speaker 2 (27:23):
And so did it bother you that the Seahawks didn't
give him a chance?
Speaker 3 (27:26):
No, not at all. Why not because he wasn't going
to come in and play, you know, and we at
that time we had I think we had a good
situation at quarterback and the backup quarterback, So it was like,
you know, what is what is the true purpose here?
Speaker 2 (27:42):
Jana was here right when that was going on, as
the backup? Was it gena leave?
Speaker 3 (27:45):
So I'm not sure, I'm not I think it was.
I remember, I don't remember exactly the all the details
around it, and just remember the emotion behind it. I
was like, we're kind of set here right, right, and
so like, what would be the what would be the
reason to bring it bring him in? Right? Would the
reason be to bring him in just to create this
you know, this this media narrative and this media circus.
Speaker 2 (28:07):
Just to say we did it, we gave him a shot.
Speaker 3 (28:09):
I mean, I hear you, But that's that's also.
Speaker 2 (28:12):
I'm not saying that's what I would say. I'm saying
that's that would have been the reason, right, But at
that point in time, and you're cool with it all
being football driven at that point.
Speaker 3 (28:21):
Yes. However, back to my point, if it was the
right opportunity, the right culture, the right leadership, the right ownership,
I think it could have worked. But that's you know,
that's a very narrow window to make that happen. If
it was the Seahawks to bring him in. Again, I'm thinking, like,
why are we doing this? Is this a circus media
that we're trying to create? And if you're doing that
then you're just tokenizing him, and then that's more disrespectful.
(28:43):
I'm glad that we didn't make that decision, although I
do think a Kaepernick at that time it is capable
of being a winning quarterback in the NFL well for
the right opportunity.
Speaker 2 (28:52):
I remember watching, obviously him play in the NFC Championship
and being scared to death of that guy.
Speaker 3 (28:58):
Many battles against.
Speaker 2 (28:59):
Them Hacker game at Lambeau when he ran all over
those dudes. I mean, yeah, he could play for sure,
no doubt. But I'm trying to remember. We got a
couple minutes left in this segment, but I'm trying to
remember you during that period in time, you did not
take a knee.
Speaker 3 (29:14):
I did not.
Speaker 2 (29:14):
Why not during the anthem?
Speaker 3 (29:18):
I mean, that was just not how I wanted to
show up. So what I did was I stood with
my hands behind my back and my head down, and
I just prayed. I prayed not only for the folks
that were, you know, on the front lines doing what
was necessary for us to get things changed, but also
for the families that were affected by this, both civilians
(29:38):
and law enforcement, and also for all of the people
who have come before me. My grandfather. Both of my
grandfathers were in the military, you know, so that part
of it mattered to me. And when I say that
they were in the military, I mean they were in
the military at a time they were serving their country
when their country did not serve them, you feel what
I'm saying. So there's a whole bunch of complexities there
that I just felt at the that time my role
(30:01):
in the bigger picture was to do what I did,
and I felt like I was effective in that and
I was able to bridge some of the divide in
some ways. Yeah, I nine forty got passed right, right,
more resources for law enforcement to uh to be less aggressive,
right and and to de escalate situations, which you know,
(30:23):
I'm hoping, like we've already seen some impact of that,
but I'm hoping over the long term it's better for
our community. So I just felt like that was the
right choice for me in that moment, for me personally.
Speaker 2 (30:33):
I gotta tell you, this is a bit of a
different theme and a different kind of energy than we
normally have on this show. Andrews will tell you mostly
it's like football and fart jokes on the air for
four hours, So we really appreciate you coming over here
and kind of raising the IQ up a couple of points.
But we're gonna we're gonna get to fun with audio. Well,
we're gonna play some clips for you. Have you respond
to him? T Jack Deavaris. Jackson was the backup by
(30:55):
the way then when that whole thing went down. So phenomenal, dude,
no question about it. But we'll do We're gonna break
Doug Baldwin's with us tonight text lines open four, nine,
four or five one. May have a couple of special
guests depending on some schedules as well. We'll do some
fun with audio though at Doug next on ninety three
three KJRFM.
Speaker 1 (31:16):
It's now time for something in Dig's Fun with Audio.
Speaker 2 (31:19):
Jimmy Gawn Star, Jimmy mister garoppolo. Now let's have some
fun with audio, all right, We're gonna take Doug Baldwin
down the fun with Audio road here on the radio show.
I know Doug woke up this morning he thought, you
know what if we accomplish anything filling in for Dick
fanning the show, I want to do funn with audio.
Speaker 1 (31:37):
Damn it.
Speaker 2 (31:37):
I want to be a part of fun with Audio
on the air. So I gave you simple instructions, did
I not? In the break? Do you remember those instructions?
Speaker 3 (31:45):
You said, no, I don't remember.
Speaker 2 (31:49):
You are what did I tell you? You? Just like me, man,
You tell me something three minutes later, I'll forget it.
Speaker 3 (31:56):
We talked about fifteen thousand other.
Speaker 2 (31:58):
Things, most of them way more important than this, by
the way, So I ask you, hey, Doug, have you
heard that? And I got to do is say what's
that softy?
Speaker 3 (32:06):
What's that softy?
Speaker 2 (32:06):
Right? Three?
Speaker 1 (32:07):
Two?
Speaker 2 (32:07):
One? Hey Doug? Have you heard that?
Speaker 3 (32:08):
What's that soft what's that dick?
Speaker 2 (32:10):
I had a Fox's coverage of the NFL preseason. Former
Patriot wide receiver Julian Elman, you know that name, by
the way, gave his pick for the team to make
it out of the AFC this upcoming season.
Speaker 4 (32:22):
I've learned my lesson. I'm never betting against the Chiefs again. Okay,
I will never bet against I lost a lot of money.
But it's not up to the Chiefs. We all know
what the Chiefs are. They got any Ray, Patrick Mahomes,
s pag Nola, Chris Jones and everyone.
Speaker 2 (32:35):
It's up to everyone else.
Speaker 4 (32:37):
We need to see a Joe Burrow, come out and
do something, stay healthy, start fast. You need to see
Lamar Jackson, who's been on a milk carton in the playoffs,
so he's missing, and then you know, you got to
see the other guys. There's gonna be a dark horseman.
Speaker 2 (32:49):
But right now your money is on the chief. I'll
go with the chiefs Lamar Jackson turns into a milk
carton come playoff time, he goes hey wall, he goes missing.
What do you think of that? When you hear that?
Speaker 3 (33:02):
I don't watch enough football anymore to tell you to
be honest, I really don't. I mean, I like I
like Lamar Jackson's game. I think he's a phenomenal, dynamic quarterback.
Speaker 1 (33:12):
Right.
Speaker 3 (33:13):
It's true they haven't beat the Chiefs. They haven't, you know,
gotten to that level. But yep, it is the Chief though,
it's Patchion Mahomes, it's baby Goat. So that's right. You're
not really saying much.
Speaker 2 (33:24):
And daddy go to is Tom Brady? All?
Speaker 3 (33:27):
Yeah, I guess so.
Speaker 2 (33:30):
You want to give us a different alternative there?
Speaker 3 (33:33):
No, I mean I can't. I just I'm I'm still
bitter about forty nine.
Speaker 2 (33:37):
Oh yeah, what you should be by the way bother
me for the rest of my life.
Speaker 3 (33:42):
I mean, I'm if I'm being honest, I'm probably about
ninety five percent over it. But really, I can't you know,
when it's brought up or when I hear, when I
see any of those colors, it's just it's still it
still bothers me.
Speaker 2 (33:52):
So I hadn't even thought of that when I mentioned
Brady and then you mentioned that game and I started
a little bit like short circuiting. For sure, that's what
happens to me. And I'm not even close to ninety
five percent. So show me the way. How do I
do that? I think all of Seattle, eleven years later
would love to know. We'll talk about that later because
(34:12):
that's a much bigger conversation. All right, Let's see if
you paid attention, Hey, Doug, did you happen to hear that?
Speaker 3 (34:18):
What's that? Softy?
Speaker 2 (34:19):
What's that dick? During a press conference after practice, Oklahoma
State head coach Mike Gundy, he's a man, he's forty
made his thoughts knowing about the transfer portal process pretty
clear when asked about negotiating ANIL deals for players.
Speaker 5 (34:34):
The business side of what we do now is is
we have to have those conversations with them, you know,
tell your agent to quit callingists and asking for more money.
It's non negotiable now to start to get in December.
So now we're able to direct ourselves just at football,
and that part is fun because there's been so much
other stuff going on, it's been hard to really focus
(34:54):
on football.
Speaker 2 (34:55):
What do you make of that?
Speaker 3 (34:57):
I mean, it is what it is. You you open
the door for the business side of it, and let's
be honest, the business side was already there. It just
wasn't open to the players, and now it is and
that's just it is what it is. So you know,
I hear him though, Like football at the purest level
is a beautiful thing. Business always interrupts that. But at
(35:17):
the end of the day, it is business now, So yeah,
it is what it is.
Speaker 2 (35:20):
I think there's a bigger nil conversation I want to
have with you, because is it possible that what is
good for the goose is not good for the gander
when it comes to nil? Right? I mean, I love
that players have this opportunity. I'm still early though, no,
no doubt this is going to evolve for sure, but
I think we've got to have that conversation later on
the day as well. All right, hey, Doug, did you
(35:41):
happen to hear that?
Speaker 3 (35:41):
What's that soft?
Speaker 2 (35:42):
What's that?
Speaker 3 (35:43):
Dick?
Speaker 2 (35:43):
By the way, you know what that is. That's hum
Mellon talking to Dick Fane. Okay, just like that. In
the pre fight height build up to Jake Paul versus
Mike Tyson, Jake Paul had some choice words for the
New York crowd when they started booing him at a
press conference. New York, shut the fuck up, New York,
do yourselves? Who yourself? New York?
Speaker 6 (36:06):
Hey, New York, New York, New York. You're just like
Mike Tyson. You were good twenty years ago, you New
York dumbass democratic city.
Speaker 2 (36:18):
Wow. You should see the look on Doug Trace. You
know what this is. This is all set up, oh
for sure, to conjure up an emotion in you, Jake Paul.
I'm talking in general and get your money. That's why
they're doing all of this. And you're you don't look
like you're falling for it.
Speaker 3 (36:38):
No, listen, I don't, I don't I don't subscribe to
Jake Paul. I don't follow Jake Paul, I don't really
care about what Jake Paul has to say.
Speaker 2 (36:48):
You're gonna watch the Jake Paul Tyson.
Speaker 3 (36:49):
I am gonna watch and hoping Mike Tyson knocks the
piss out. Of of course. Look, I will say this,
I think Jake Paul has done a great job of
mark get himself right. But I do think he's still
a young man and a lot of the things that
he's doing and saying he's going to have to reconcile
with at some point in his life. So you know, wow,
(37:09):
but good luck to him.
Speaker 2 (37:11):
Yeah, but see again, this is this is all set
up to get somebody out there to have some kind
of emotional reaction to spend the money. Is it Netflix?
Is that right? Has the fight? I don't know to
spend the money on Netflix.
Speaker 3 (37:22):
I'm gonna go over Ja Mainshouse and watch We're Gonna Break.
Speaker 2 (37:26):
John Wilder is gonna hop on for a few John
Wilder Andrews was the beat writer for the San Jose
Mercury News when this guy played for Jim Harbor at Stanford.
We'll talk to him next on ninety three to three
kJ I R FM.
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