August 23, 2024 • 37 mins
We hear from Dan Wilson as the Mariners Manager for the first time and react to it. New Mariners hitting coach Edgar Martinez spoke to the media and we listen to that ahead of tonights game vs SF. Neil Scott joins the show to give us a vibe check with the clubhouse at T Mobile Park.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:06):
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Speaker 3 (00:10):
Get all your tickets. Maybe you want to go to
the Hawks game tomorrow night.
Speaker 4 (00:14):
Maybe you want to go to the Husky game next Saturday.
Speaker 2 (00:18):
I'll be at both of those. Yes, Anders, I'm going
to a preseason football game.
Speaker 5 (00:21):
Now.
Speaker 6 (00:22):
Oh, you sound dejected about that.
Speaker 2 (00:24):
I'm actually I'm actually a little more fired up that
the starters are actually going to play for all. Yeah,
so that that makes it a little more, you know,
a little bit more tolerable. I'm with you for me,
Venue Kings dot Cole Mariner's making a move today, Gabe
Spire recalled from Triple A Tacoma. Why well, because our
friend Jimmy Garcia placed on the fifteen day injured list
with right elbow inflammations.
Speaker 3 (00:48):
That is not good. Mareners also making official diagram.
Speaker 2 (00:52):
Martinez named the hitting coach for the remainder of the
twenty twenty four season. Luis Castillo gets the start tonight.
They begin their homestand against the Giants. Hayden Bird's we
will hear from new skipper Dan Wilson coming up next.
Hawks trading outside linebacker Daryl Taylor to the Bears for
a six round draft pick five and a half sacks
last year after nine and a half sacks the year before.
He was set to be a free agent at the
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end of the year. Do over three million dollars this season,
so some cap savings with the trade for the Seahawks
and the rest of the NFC West just crumbling around
the Seahawks. We already know the problems with the Niners
with Brandon Ayuk and with Trent Williams. Well, how about
this Rams starting left tackle Aleric Jackson suspended for the
first two games the season personal conduct violation. Cardinals wide
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receivers A Jones suspended for the first five games of
the season for first personal conduct violation after being arrested
in November for a misdemeanor.
Speaker 4 (01:42):
Battery charge, which was later dropped.
Speaker 2 (01:44):
All right, rolling into the five o'clock hourd Oh my
favorite baseball song?
Speaker 6 (01:49):
Really?
Speaker 3 (01:49):
How did you know it?
Speaker 6 (01:50):
I didn't know. I just picked one.
Speaker 2 (01:52):
Oh yeah, yeah, Jackson Jackson plays this for me. Beca's
my favorite base It's uh it's.
Speaker 3 (01:58):
Jack Buck calling the world Old series brought a back,
you know.
Speaker 2 (02:02):
Twenty five ish years ago something like that.
Speaker 7 (02:07):
Oh so good.
Speaker 6 (02:08):
Yeah, so world Series.
Speaker 2 (02:10):
Well this was the this was the theme for quite
a few years. Okay, yeah, I remember. I remember sitting
at the piano picking it out. You know, I'd hear
it on TV and I'd start to pick it out
on the on the on the piano.
Speaker 3 (02:20):
Oh, I just love this.
Speaker 2 (02:21):
I love the old sports themes and this is one
of the best. But we have not spent a lot
of time on Mariner pregame press conferences over the last
couple of months because frankly, they're usually boring and Scott
Servis doesn't say anything, or if he does say something,
it'll be a caustic remark on a quote unquote stupid
question by one of the media members that.
Speaker 3 (02:42):
He'll call out.
Speaker 2 (02:44):
We won't get that because we don't have a caustic manager.
Now we actually have a delightful manager. I don't know
if he's a good manager, yeah, but as a human
being's Dan Wilson is a fabulous human being. Absolutely so
there will be no caustic responses from Dan Wilson in
in press conference at least I hope not. But let's
hear from the new skipper of the Seattle Mariners, Dan Wilson,
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just moments ago a tea mobile park.
Speaker 5 (03:08):
Always a lot of emotion around these kinds of things,
and I have a tremendous amount of respect for what
Scott has done here and the accomplishments he's had over
his career with the Mariners. But really looking forward to
what this team is in front of right now, really
excited about these last thirty four games. As you look
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at the schedule, this is going to be fun. I
know these guys are ready to take it on, and
I'm excited with this opportunity. This is you know, this
has been a home for us for a long time.
This has been an organization that I've spent some time with,
and to be in this position to have this opportunity,
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I'm extremely grateful for that, humbled by it, and I
want to do the best job possible to help get
these guys, get all of us back to the playoffs
and in the quickest route possible. But I will take
questions just your first full time managerial drought, just why
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do you think you're prepared and where to do this
right now? I mean, I think a lot of these
guys I've I've been able to coach, you know, throughout
the minor leagues, have had pretty good relationships with a
lot of them. I don't know all of them, but
you know, we will get there. I know I know
a lot of these coaches. I've also been with a
lot of these coaches throughout the minor leagues as well,
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and so there's a lot of familiarity there. I think
that it really really helps. And I think a big
part of a manager's job is building relationships and and
helping to bring those relationships to life on the field
as well. And I think that that, you know, that's
a big part of what we do as managers. And
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so I'm I'm I'm thankful that I've had the opportunities
in the minor leagues, in other roles to be able
to you know, have have the relationships that are already established.
Speaker 3 (05:06):
It's not just an interim tag either.
Speaker 5 (05:08):
Is that important to you to embrace the more full
time and opportunity here? Is that? Is that it you
talk about because the organization's complex here. Yeah, I think
I think it is important. When you know, I think
when you look beyond just this next stretch here that
we have. You know, I think the idea is to
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try to try to start something new and and uh,
you know, you can't do that in thirty four thirty
four games, And I think there's there's quite a bit
of a time that.
Speaker 3 (05:41):
Needs to happen.
Speaker 5 (05:41):
We're going to make a great run at this thing
here at the end. But there's also this idea of
of you know, looking a long term as well, and
I think that's part partly is is very very exciting
as well. Jerry Jerry has said that this was a
few days of the process leading to yesterday.
Speaker 1 (06:00):
What were those few.
Speaker 5 (06:01):
Days like for you as you try to wait, Yeah,
it's a great question.
Speaker 3 (06:08):
I think.
Speaker 5 (06:09):
You know, again, you can say all you want, like
if this comes up, we would do it, and then
when it does come up, you really have to take
time to consider it and think about it. So it
was a lot of contemplating. It was a lot of
understanding what it actually all meant and remembering what it
was like to be here on a daily basis, and
and you know, spending your time in the ballpark, it's
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you know, you as a player, it's a little bit
different as a coach. You actually spend more time here,
and as a manager, you spend more time here, so
you know, you have to consider all those things. But
I think the excitement of where this team is, the
excitement of the talent that's in that clubhouse, that's the
part that's very exciting. And then what we have a
chance to do here late in the season brings even
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more excitement to the position. How much did Luke Vinella
prepar you to this job? Yeah, well, I think, you know,
the game has changed a lot, and and managers have
changed over time as well. But I think, you know,
when when you look at Lou and the job that
he did, you know, just the fact that he commands
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respect like he did, and and they've demanded our best
every day, I think those are things that hopefully I
can instill as well. I definitely will take what I
can from Lou because he was one of the best,
no doubt about it. And uh, you know, those are
a couple of things that really stand out for me,
and hopefully that's something that that you know, I can
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I can continue on here from from Lou. What's some
things that team are looking for? And he's lost thirty
four games.
Speaker 8 (07:47):
This is some kind of jolt because you guys have
quite a good ground to make up and a manager
provide that.
Speaker 5 (07:53):
It is so hot, I don't you know, Uh, it's
it can get it's gonna get done on the field,
and it's you know, I think that this team we
have seen over time has really caught can catch fire,
and can catch fire very quickly, and it becomes very
contagious very quickly. And I and I this is a
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good team. These are these guys have tremendous talent and
sometimes you know, some kind of a change in some
direction can spark something. But these guys have it in
them already. It's not anything that is going to be
artificial by any means. These guys can play. You know,
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we've pitched so well all season, and this offense has
a chance to get really, really hot here towards the end,
and I'm looking forward to it. I think it's going
to be an exciting stretch. And you're obviously not starting
from ground zero with your relationships with these guys. But
what is the challenge of jump innings of that scene
with thirty five is games throw the season and try
to figure.
Speaker 1 (08:56):
Out how to make this all work.
Speaker 5 (08:57):
Yeah, it's a challenge it's all that's that's a big challenge,
is you know, understanding that you want to sort of
take your time to build relationships. We don't have a
lot of and I think that some of these guys,
a lot of the guys that we have on the team,
especially some of the veteran guys are new, you know,
especially after the break and some of the trains we've made,
So getting to know them quickly is going to be
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very very essential. So I'm you know, those are things
that are going to be priorities for me here and
this especially in this homestand is it's getting to know
some of those guys and and and helping them realize
the leadership potential that they have in that clubhouse too.
Bringing on Edgar as you beating coach, just what was
that prosis like? And how can he help them maybe
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get a little bit more out of that. Yeah, I
think there's no one I trust more with hitters than Edgar.
You know, the thing about Edgar that I think a
lot of people don't understand is that he was a
tremendous hitter. He just had tremendous talent, but that's not
all he had. He was he studies hitting. He's a
student of hitting and he can break it down better
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than anybody. And I think that was the first thought
that came to my mind. And I know he's familiar
with a lot of these guys. He spends a lot
of time here during the season anyway. But the idea
that you know, he can talk a lot about mechanics
as a lot of hitting coaches can, but also his
ideas behind approach, behind the mindset in the batter's box,
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those are things that I think he does exceptionally well
at and I know that that's going to be a
big part of his hitting program going forward.
Speaker 8 (10:36):
And a lot of the conversation has been like with
the players, obviously, everything movie very quickly coming off.
Speaker 7 (10:41):
That road for him.
Speaker 6 (10:42):
Yeah, so far, so good.
Speaker 5 (10:44):
You know, we had some good conversations. I know guars
had some good conversations as well with some of the
hitters already, and I think there's a good feeling. I
think obviously an off day yesterday helped kind of erase
a little bit of that road trip. And now we're
back home and I think these guys are ready to go,
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and it's it's gonna be an exciting series.
Speaker 2 (11:09):
And well, there's not a time time to build the
relationships to hoss shot.
Speaker 5 (11:14):
What do you want to get ask the Sandager's I think,
you know, one of the things I'd like to instill,
and we talked about it a little bit today, is
just this idea that that you know, going out to
win the playoffs or to get to the playoffs, to
win to get to the playoffs is really about getting
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ready and prepared each day to go out and fight
and take it. You know, no team is gonna hand
us this this playoff run. And and when we've gone
through and I've gone through it to the past, you
have to earn everything. And so I think hopefully that's
something that we can pass along fairly quickly and help
these guys understand that. And and uh, it's a it's
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so far into conversations we've had, I feel like that's uh,
the understanding that that uh, we've got to go out
and take that taught you how to command respects and
that you did it pretty naturally. How do you think
that happens in the modern day form a manager?
Speaker 3 (12:19):
How do you belong to commandage?
Speaker 5 (12:20):
Spect? Yeah, I think it's again, I think building relationships
is is what's The important part here is is that understanding,
understanding UH players and and where and where they're at
and and that's how you get their respect. I think
this group so far has been tremendous at that just
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having a few conversations are today. It's been great to
get to know a couple of guys that I didn't know,
and I'm looking forward to, you know, learning from them
as well as we go forward on this, because I
have a lot to learn and because the game has
changed so much. But it's it, it's been. It's I mean,
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as far as day one goes, it's been. It's been
pretty good.
Speaker 3 (13:07):
There you go. Good to hear Dan Wilson's voice again.
I almost forgot what he sounded to play.
Speaker 2 (13:12):
But a great guy. We'll see if he's a great manager.
I mean, I understand managers don't win a lot of
games themselves, but I do think they can produce a
shock paddle for a team that has no heartbeat, and
this team clearly.
Speaker 3 (13:27):
Has had no heartbeat.
Speaker 2 (13:28):
I mean, Andrews, I just want to see something, something different,
and what I mean by that.
Speaker 3 (13:34):
Is I want to see quality outs.
Speaker 2 (13:36):
I want to see a just a with a runner
on second base, and one out I want to see,
or no outs. Rather, I want to see somebody just
slap a ball the first base and allow him to
get the third. And then I want to see the
next guy slap a ball the right field for an
out and score him. I mean, I just want to
see little stuff like that because I'm so tired of
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this team trying to play for the biginning, because you
know what, it ain't coming. And here's proof it ain't coming.
This is unbelievable. Look this up today, Anders. Remember there
was an eight game stretch against Chicago, Boston, and Philly
where the Mariners scored six or.
Speaker 3 (14:15):
More runs in seven of those eight games.
Speaker 2 (14:17):
Right, Remember that we had we swept Chicago, we were
looking good.
Speaker 3 (14:21):
It was an eight game stretch.
Speaker 2 (14:23):
Other than that stretch of eight games since the fateful
day of June nineteenth, when this all came tumbling down,
all right, which was more than two months ago, other
than that eight game stretch, they have failed to score
four runs eighteen times in twenty two games since the break,
and twenty eight times in thirty five games since June nineteenth.
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Twenty eight times out of thirty five games, they have
failed to get to four the big inning ain't coming.
So when the opportunity presents itself to score one run
this inning and then maybe score one run two or
three innings later, and then score one run two or
three innings later, guess what. You get to three runs,
you win a vast majority of your games. You get
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to four runs, you win almost every game. With this
baseball team fifty eight and twenty two. When they score
three runs fifty eight and twenty two, all they need
is three runs. So stop trying to play for the beginning,
because this team doesn't need six runs to win a game.
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This team doesn't need a beginning to win a game.
This team needs one run there, one run there, and
one run there. That's all they need to win these games.
Speaker 3 (15:40):
Anders, Yeah, I don't.
Speaker 8 (15:42):
I don't know how I feel about the productive out
conversation because it's it's.
Speaker 3 (15:48):
For this team though.
Speaker 2 (15:48):
I'm not talking about for a normal team with a
seventeenth best ra in baseball. I'm talking about for this
team who if you score three runs, you win fifty
eight out of eighty two.
Speaker 8 (16:00):
It's yeah, it's different in every situation, right, but for
a team that struggles, like you said, to score runs,
giving more outs. Then I understand being productive with those
outs is a good thing to do, But you only
have twenty seven outs to play with, right, so.
Speaker 4 (16:16):
You want fourteen of them are strikeouts?
Speaker 2 (16:18):
Yeah, exactly can we make Can we make seven of
them strikeouts? Yeah? And three or four extra productive outs
instead of the other seven strikeouts.
Speaker 3 (16:26):
Well.
Speaker 8 (16:26):
The other thing you kind of run into is if
you have a guy on first and third with an out,
you and you try and put it in play instead of,
you know, possibly striking out but being a little more patient,
is you've got into a double play in the inning
over instead of having one more chance after that.
Speaker 3 (16:39):
Right.
Speaker 8 (16:40):
So that's kind of where the analytics crowd comes in
and it's like, yeah, strikeouts not the end of the world.
There are obviously situations where you need to get the
ball in the outfield, guy on third, nobody out, guy
on second and third, one out, anyone where that's not
a double play situation.
Speaker 6 (16:54):
I understand.
Speaker 8 (16:55):
But I just think that that kind of productive out
conversation is not going to turn this team from putrid
offense into the offense it needs to be to be
a World Series contender like we all thought they were
going to be this year. I think it's a complete
top to bottom offensive approach change.
Speaker 3 (17:14):
And yes, I would agree with that.
Speaker 8 (17:16):
Probably won't change this year obviously, and it probably won't
change unless Jerry Depoto is fired. But I guess in
terms of the rest of this year, I can kind
of see what you're saying. You just need to get
any sort of offense that you can, any sort of
run production that you can.
Speaker 2 (17:30):
Any any way to get the three. I mean, it's
anyway you get to.
Speaker 3 (17:34):
Three, and that's usually equaling a win.
Speaker 2 (17:37):
And these one run losses, you know, you think back
to these games, and they are two and nine in
their last eleven one run games, two and nine.
Speaker 6 (17:46):
And I used to be a calling card for this team.
Speaker 4 (17:49):
I mean, if they were just six and five, man, yeah,
we'd be.
Speaker 2 (17:53):
Right smack in this thing. And we'd be six and
five in those one run games if we didn't strike
out with runners on at first, third and one out
right instead, if we could just you know, just slap something, slap.
Speaker 3 (18:04):
A slow roller to first and get.
Speaker 2 (18:06):
The guy in for God's sake, So you know it.
We'll see if there's any any major changes. Have we
heard from Edgar yet.
Speaker 8 (18:13):
Or we I just got it about okay, thirty seconds ago.
That way you go through it and sift through and
get the best stuff. But we can get that ready
for your next segment.
Speaker 2 (18:21):
That is the hard working Andrews Hurst right there, or
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Speaker 3 (18:51):
A little lineups are out. Andrews tell me if.
Speaker 2 (18:57):
You hear much of a difference between the last lineup
that Scott Servis ever rolled out as manager of the
Seattle Mayor Okay, two nights ago and the first lineup
ever rolled out by Dan Wilson News Skipper, Top four Guys.
Speaker 4 (19:12):
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Speaker 2 (19:15):
That was Wednesday, Raley Rodriguez Rally A Rosina Today. Raley
Rodriguez Rally A Rosna number five Wednesday, Polanco today, Polanco
numbers seven, eight and nine. Canzone Rojas Revas on Wednesday
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today ken Zone Rojas Revas. The only change is that
Turner has hit sixth on Wednesday and Hanneger is hitting
sixth to night.
Speaker 3 (19:46):
So it's so different.
Speaker 2 (19:48):
No, it's copy, copy and paste, copy and paste now,
not a lot of other options obviously, but uh, you know,
we'll see if there will be any changes in the
batting order, and we'll see how any changes I'm interested
to see tonight, you know, right away, are we going
to see approaches at the plate that are different? And
one of the guys that I hope will get actually
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some influence in how these guys approach the plate is
Edgar Martinez, probably, you know, the greatest hitter in Mariner
history if you're just talking about your hit, yes, pure hit,
the greatest pure hitter in Mariner history, Edgar Martinez and
one of the greatest right handed pure hitters of all
time now coaching the Mariner hitters, and we hear from
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him right now from here.
Speaker 5 (20:33):
What was your reaction when they reached out to you
about how much contemplating did you have to.
Speaker 9 (20:38):
Do as the power saying yes, oh, I didn't have
to do much contemplating. Dan Will was the one that
called me, and uh, I at first I thought he
was joking, but but is Uh, I didn't have to
think that much. So uh, I was exciting, excited for
him and exciting excited to work with him.
Speaker 5 (21:01):
Edgar, you know all of them, you've worked with them,
But what do you tell them now?
Speaker 9 (21:07):
I think that the focusing is, you know, it's gonna
be about just thinking about the approach, thinking about fighting
for their bats, like this is their bats and just
fighting for that and having you know, be ready for
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a plan. But that the approach is is something that
we're going to stress a lot.
Speaker 7 (21:35):
Is it a different approach or is it more focused
on the approach?
Speaker 9 (21:39):
Well, the approach which is the one that I believe
kind of using the middle of the field ah and
fastball ready and I just do to other beaches uh
and in the fundamental side of the game, just doing
the little things moving the runners, uh. Having focus on
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men in escort position or third base, listen to out
how to approach that situation. And it's going to be
just conversation with them and getting feedback. And I'm here
just to support them to be able to achieve those goals.
Speaker 5 (22:22):
What does it like to.
Speaker 9 (22:24):
What does that mean to you? Well, when you have
to strikes, you know, it's just making an adjustment to battle.
You know, you have to do some adjustments. Sometimes you
have to just cut the swing down and try to
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look in the general area. But basically it's it's just
giving everything you have to to make that guy make
a mistake because the result of that, sometimes when you
fight like that with two strikes, the pitcher have to
throw more pitches. He probably don't throw para bad eight
to ten pitches, and that can make a big difference
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for the game.
Speaker 6 (23:08):
I for Wholio has become the face of disfranchise.
Speaker 8 (23:11):
I think he didn't say this is the kind of
you that he would want playing if you seen specifically
when you feel like.
Speaker 3 (23:18):
You better kind of stretch.
Speaker 9 (23:21):
I think he's trying really hard, like too hard. Sometimes
he wanted to do his job, obviously, and he wanted
to do well. I like to help him just kind
of just focus on enjoy playing the game and just
give the best effort and don't think about anything else.
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Let himself come out and just play the game and
don't think about anything else.
Speaker 5 (23:49):
Are there in the challenges of keeping an the modern game,
so to speak, in.
Speaker 3 (23:53):
An oolytics and just how you know information.
Speaker 9 (23:56):
Is to separate how it really is is is so
much information and some players can handle that, but not
every player can. You know, they become too fixated on
whether it's sexy velocity or I don't know how many
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they are, but uh, and I'm gonna try to help
them just kind of focus on what is important, that
is just giving you the best effort on the field,
and be yourself. You know, they have to know if
they're contact hitter, if their gap hit to gap hitter,
or it's hoong hitter. But I don't think we have
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many of those. So it's just be yourself and and
don't trying to be who you're not.
Speaker 2 (24:49):
So well in an effort not to be Pollyanna. I
was encouraged by what I heard there, and yeah, I
might I was encouraged. I mean, nobody used the middle
of the field better in my lifetime than Edger Martinez. Yeah,
I mean, nobody hit from left center to right center
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better than Edgar Martinez. And he said he wants to
emphasize middle of the field. He said moving the runners. Gosh,
did I get all tingled I.
Speaker 3 (25:21):
Said when he said moving the runners?
Speaker 2 (25:24):
How to approach the bat when there's a runner on
third in less than two outs. I mean, some of
the things that we just talked about in the In
the last segment, he says, cutting the swing down.
Speaker 3 (25:34):
With two strikes because God, with this team.
Speaker 2 (25:37):
Man, every swing looks the same. It doesn't matter if
it's three to zero. It doesn't matter if it's O two,
it doesn't matter if it's a fastball in or a
slider away. Every swing looks exactly the same.
Speaker 3 (25:53):
It's just a swing.
Speaker 2 (25:54):
As hard as you can and pray and and that
was the the greatness about Edgar Martinez is like he
could just you know, talk about pitchers changing speeds and
going from a ninety seven mile an hour fastball to
an eighty eight mile an hour changeup.
Speaker 3 (26:09):
Edgar Martinez would change speeds, man.
Speaker 2 (26:12):
Yeah, he would change bad angles, he would change speeds
of his swing, he'd i mean contact points. He was
just an absolute master at it. Now, just because you're
a master at it doesn't mean you're gonna be a
master at teaching other people how to do it. Because
some of the things that Edgar could do just it's
impossible for anybody else. Yeah, it's impossible for anybody else
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to do it like that. It's like Tiger Woods trying
to teach me, right, It's like there's just certain things.
Speaker 3 (26:40):
You know, Tiger could give me a lot of great tips.
Speaker 2 (26:42):
And I watch a lot of great I watch a
lot of great Tiger tips on YouTube, but I ain't
ever gonna be Tiger right right.
Speaker 8 (26:50):
So, and you see this in other sports where sometimes
the best coaches are weren't the most talented players. It's
because it's the guys that have had to grind everywhere.
And I don't think Edgar falls into that category because
he definitely had to grind for what he got and
he was a very fundamental hitter. I just question whether
that approach is going to jive with the modern day
(27:12):
baseball player, right, yeah.
Speaker 2 (27:13):
And well, and not only I think it'll jive with
the modern day baseball player because I think a coach
can get through to younger guys with a but will.
Speaker 3 (27:23):
It jive with modern day numbers? What the numbers say
that you should.
Speaker 6 (27:29):
Do slash the modern day analytics department?
Speaker 3 (27:31):
Yes exactly.
Speaker 2 (27:32):
I mean that's that to me is more because I
think you know a lot of these guys that Edgar
will get, you know, some of them are veterans that
have been around, like Justin Turner has been around pre analytics,
right right, I mean, so he knows he knows what
it's like to hit before all these numbers came in.
Speaker 8 (27:51):
Analytics is what made him good because he was kind
of a failed prospect and when he was in what
Oakland and then he went to LA they kind of
taught him a new way to hit, and he all
of a sudden became one of the best hitters in baseball,
one of the best postseason hitters in baseball too. So
there is something to be said about how it's delivered too,
And I think that's where somewhere where I could really help.
Speaker 2 (28:10):
And I'm just I want something in the middle. Yeah,
I mean, god, it's it's just everything. It seems like
everything in life these days has just got to be
a million miles to one direction or a million miles
to the other direction. And I just think we've gone
so far to the analytics side of things that can
we just swing the pendulum back a little bit more
(28:32):
into just the field process and the you know, the
gut the gut field process and the just the being able.
Speaker 3 (28:39):
To score runs when you're supposed to score runs.
Speaker 2 (28:42):
And if we can just marry it. If we can,
if we can marry the numbers with the feel, then
then maybe, you know, because eventually it's gonna swing back.
Yeah right, I mean, analytics isn't gonna rule baseball for
the next fifty years.
Speaker 8 (28:56):
I think I think it might. I think it's getting
in every other sport too. Baseball was kind of the
first one it really got into. And now like PFF
with all the numbers of football and uh, you know
basketball with uh there's there's all the plus minus and everything.
I'm not as much of a gig with that kind
of thing.
Speaker 2 (29:11):
But but even in basketball, though, like you, it went
to the it went to the extreme with the with
the Houston Rockets about seven or eight years ago, where
if you don't take a three or a layup, it's
a bad shot, right, That was the but and then
it's but then it's come back a little bit, right,
And now the mid range jumpers are much more prevalent
(29:32):
now than they were, you know seven eight years ago,
when seven eight years.
Speaker 3 (29:36):
Old, mid range jumpers are the worst efficiency shot you
could ever take, right, you know.
Speaker 2 (29:42):
Yeah, but but if you're good at it and teams
don't defend it, well, then they become more efficient. So
it's just kinda kind of swinging back and forth. Are
we gonna talk to Neil next segment from from Team Mobile?
Speaker 6 (29:54):
We are indeed the.
Speaker 2 (29:56):
Legend Neil Scott. He has not been on the show
for a while. He has covered and the Mariners for
US today down at Team Mobile Park. He was there
for the Dan Wilson press conference and the Edgar Martinez
press conference. Will chat with him next on ninety three
point three KJRFM.
Speaker 1 (30:12):
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Speaker 2 (30:29):
Friday Night for baseball Baseball in Seattle at Team Mobile Park,
Baseball in Tacoma with the Tacoma Rainiers. Yes, the gates
are open, there are people filing in. Yeah, I know,
it's though the weather isn't the best. But so far,
so good on playing baseball thus far here in tacomab
But that's why they have the roof over there at
the Big Ballpark. And Neil Scott is under the roof
(30:51):
right now in Seattle and he joins us right now.
Speaker 3 (30:53):
Neil, how you doing man.
Speaker 7 (30:55):
I'm doing great, dick under the roof in the rain.
Everything Old is New?
Speaker 3 (31:00):
Yeah, oh boy?
Speaker 4 (31:03):
Should that be just I think that should be.
Speaker 2 (31:06):
A banner at T Mobile Parks along with their along
with the other banners that they hold up there. They
throw up there everything old is New again, because that
just seems like them for this franchise, doesn't it.
Speaker 7 (31:20):
Yeah, it's it's throwback weekend, a throwback end of the season.
Speaker 3 (31:23):
Actually, but it's been.
Speaker 2 (31:25):
But that's the way they operate, right, I mean, it's
just you know, a couple of no I put it
tweet out yesterday. I was just like, this was the
least surprising Mariner move of all, having Dan Wilson and
Edgar Martinez come back to run your ball club. I'm
not saying it's a bad thing. I'm just saying it's
the most meriti thing because that's what people criticize them for.
(31:47):
People criticize the Mariners for constantly rerunning shows about ninety five,
right and having all these throwback days.
Speaker 7 (31:55):
Absolutely, this is the thirteenth new manager that I have
covered since nineteen eighty nine. My first manager is Jim
left Fever, and le Fever takes me back to what
nineteen eighty nine, nineteen ninety. I've seen him come and
I've seen them go.
Speaker 3 (32:11):
I was a l fever believer. Absolutely well, we're all.
Speaker 2 (32:15):
He got us the five hundred man and then they
fired him and hired Bill Plumber and he won. We
won sixty games after that. But you know what, what's
your what's your take?
Speaker 3 (32:25):
Neil?
Speaker 2 (32:25):
And I want to get the scenes that are down
there as well, but I want to ask you, what's
your take on just the decision to go to Dan
Wilson for the foreseeable future and not just on an
interim basis.
Speaker 7 (32:38):
I think when they approached Dan, and this is just
my own feeling that he said he would take it,
but not on an interim basis, that it would have
to be more than just you know, the rest of
the season. From some of the people I've talked to
down here at ballpark today, that's the feeling that I'm getting.
It's the way the whole thing happened, and you know,
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the incredible way that its service found out about it
through social media. I mean, that's terrible. I can't even
tell you how upset everybody is about that. I'm not
sure how that happened you know.
Speaker 3 (33:15):
We had Jerry Brewer on earlier.
Speaker 2 (33:16):
He was theorizing that ye Ken Rosenthal was promised to
scoop and that he got the scoop but put it
out faster than he was supposed to. That was the
theory from Jerry. Doesn't know anything obviously specifically, but you
know that that adds up because obviously Jerry, to put it,
(33:38):
was shocked to see it. So you know, Jerry, I
think Jerry said something in the fact that Jerry put
his trust on in someone and that trust was broken.
Speaker 3 (33:48):
So that's it.
Speaker 2 (33:50):
But it makes Jerry look horrible, There's no question about that.
Give us kind of the the vibe in the clubhouse
walking around? Does it feel I mean, you've you've been
in so many of these this year, in the year past.
I mean, does the vibe feel different in the clubhouse today?
Speaker 3 (34:03):
Over there?
Speaker 7 (34:04):
Well, it was kind of like a morgue only because
none of the players at the clubhouse was open. But
none of the players were around. They were conveniently in
the back room or in the back cages. We all
kind of waited around, but nobody show up. Now, when
I got here, I rode down in the elevator, I
put my stuff down in the press box, went to
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the elevator. I get in the elevator. There's only one
other person in the elevator, Jerry. Total interesting.
Speaker 3 (34:33):
Did you say anything to them?
Speaker 7 (34:36):
Yeah, I said, you know, it's been twenty four hours later.
How are you feeling today? I mean, what's your feeling
on this? He said, the right people in the right place,
and it's time to do it. I'm excited.
Speaker 2 (34:49):
Well, I mean, I hope we see It would be
nice just to see some sort of a spark, not
only a winning spark, but just some sort of difference
than what we've seen in the past.
Speaker 3 (35:00):
Can we see some? So we heard Edgar.
Speaker 2 (35:02):
You know, what, what did you make of Edgar's conversation
with the media today, Because I thought, you know, some
of the specifics he threw out as far as the
approach to.
Speaker 3 (35:10):
Hitting, they were very Edgar esque. But I loved him.
Speaker 2 (35:13):
I mean I loved it when he said middle of
the field. I loved what he said, you know, advancing runners.
I loved what he said, approach with two strikes. I mean,
all those things that this baseball team has been lacking.
Speaker 7 (35:24):
Absolutely. But you know, at this point, it's all talk.
It's the players that have to respond, the players that
have to do it, and it's up to them, and
maybe maybe it will be a spark. You know, I'm
not sure. I feel bad again for Scott's service, the
the way the whole thing happened. And I was talking
to Rick Riz and he showed that. I said, have
you heard from Scott since this went down? They said
he had texted him yesterday and he responded today with
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a text, and he showed me the text from Scott's service.
And I'm not going to tell you what was in it,
but I'll tell you that was filled with gratitude and
praise for Rick and praise for the organization. So you know,
it was time. But the way that it went down
was not right.
Speaker 3 (36:06):
Yeah, no question. Neil always a pleasure man. Enjoy the game.
Speaker 7 (36:09):
Tonight, Okay, enjoy your game down at to come on, my.
Speaker 3 (36:12):
Friend, Thanks for joining us.
Speaker 2 (36:14):
That's Neil Scott, a long time KJR contributor here for
many many years. When he said the first manager he
covered with Jim Lefever back in the late eighties, all right, well,
head to the six hour, six o'clock hour. We're gonna
switch our focus to the world of fantasy football. I
know a lot of you out there sitting in traffic
probably have fantasy drafts over the next week or two.
(36:36):
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Speaker 3 (36:40):
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Speaker 3 (36:52):
He is absolutely fantastic.
Speaker 2 (36:53):
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Speaker 2 (00:06):
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Speaker 3 (00:10):
Get all your tickets. Maybe you want to go to
the Hawks game tomorrow night.
Speaker 4 (00:14):
Maybe you want to go to the Husky game next Saturday.
Speaker 2 (00:18):
I'll be at both of those. Yes, Anders, I'm going
to a preseason football game.
Speaker 5 (00:21):
Now.
Speaker 6 (00:22):
Oh, you sound dejected about that.
Speaker 2 (00:24):
I'm actually I'm actually a little more fired up that
the starters are actually going to play for all. Yeah,
so that that makes it a little more, you know,
a little bit more tolerable. I'm with you for me,
Venue Kings dot Cole Mariner's making a move today, Gabe
Spire recalled from Triple A Tacoma. Why well, because our
friend Jimmy Garcia placed on the fifteen day injured list
with right elbow inflammations.
Speaker 3 (00:48):
That is not good. Mareners also making official diagram.
Speaker 2 (00:52):
Martinez named the hitting coach for the remainder of the
twenty twenty four season. Luis Castillo gets the start tonight.
They begin their homestand against the Giants. Hayden Bird's we
will hear from new skipper Dan Wilson coming up next.
Hawks trading outside linebacker Daryl Taylor to the Bears for
a six round draft pick five and a half sacks
last year after nine and a half sacks the year before.
He was set to be a free agent at the
(01:12):
end of the year. Do over three million dollars this season,
so some cap savings with the trade for the Seahawks
and the rest of the NFC West just crumbling around
the Seahawks. We already know the problems with the Niners
with Brandon Ayuk and with Trent Williams. Well, how about
this Rams starting left tackle Aleric Jackson suspended for the
first two games the season personal conduct violation. Cardinals wide
(01:33):
receivers A Jones suspended for the first five games of
the season for first personal conduct violation after being arrested
in November for a misdemeanor.
Speaker 4 (01:42):
Battery charge, which was later dropped.
Speaker 2 (01:44):
All right, rolling into the five o'clock hourd Oh my
favorite baseball song?
Speaker 6 (01:49):
Really?
Speaker 3 (01:49):
How did you know it?
Speaker 6 (01:50):
I didn't know. I just picked one.
Speaker 2 (01:52):
Oh yeah, yeah, Jackson Jackson plays this for me. Beca's
my favorite base It's uh it's.
Speaker 3 (01:58):
Jack Buck calling the world Old series brought a back,
you know.
Speaker 2 (02:02):
Twenty five ish years ago something like that.
Speaker 7 (02:07):
Oh so good.
Speaker 6 (02:08):
Yeah, so world Series.
Speaker 2 (02:10):
Well this was the this was the theme for quite
a few years. Okay, yeah, I remember. I remember sitting
at the piano picking it out. You know, I'd hear
it on TV and I'd start to pick it out
on the on the on the piano.
Speaker 3 (02:20):
Oh, I just love this.
Speaker 2 (02:21):
I love the old sports themes and this is one
of the best. But we have not spent a lot
of time on Mariner pregame press conferences over the last
couple of months because frankly, they're usually boring and Scott
Servis doesn't say anything, or if he does say something,
it'll be a caustic remark on a quote unquote stupid
question by one of the media members that.
Speaker 3 (02:42):
He'll call out.
Speaker 2 (02:44):
We won't get that because we don't have a caustic manager.
Now we actually have a delightful manager. I don't know
if he's a good manager, yeah, but as a human
being's Dan Wilson is a fabulous human being. Absolutely so
there will be no caustic responses from Dan Wilson in
in press conference at least I hope not. But let's
hear from the new skipper of the Seattle Mariners, Dan Wilson,
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just moments ago a tea mobile park.
Speaker 5 (03:08):
Always a lot of emotion around these kinds of things,
and I have a tremendous amount of respect for what
Scott has done here and the accomplishments he's had over
his career with the Mariners. But really looking forward to
what this team is in front of right now, really
excited about these last thirty four games. As you look
(03:30):
at the schedule, this is going to be fun. I
know these guys are ready to take it on, and
I'm excited with this opportunity. This is you know, this
has been a home for us for a long time.
This has been an organization that I've spent some time with,
and to be in this position to have this opportunity,
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I'm extremely grateful for that, humbled by it, and I
want to do the best job possible to help get
these guys, get all of us back to the playoffs
and in the quickest route possible. But I will take
questions just your first full time managerial drought, just why
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do you think you're prepared and where to do this
right now? I mean, I think a lot of these
guys I've I've been able to coach, you know, throughout
the minor leagues, have had pretty good relationships with a
lot of them. I don't know all of them, but
you know, we will get there. I know I know
a lot of these coaches. I've also been with a
lot of these coaches throughout the minor leagues as well,
(04:33):
and so there's a lot of familiarity there. I think
that it really really helps. And I think a big
part of a manager's job is building relationships and and
helping to bring those relationships to life on the field
as well. And I think that that, you know, that's
a big part of what we do as managers. And
(04:55):
so I'm I'm I'm thankful that I've had the opportunities
in the minor leagues, in other roles to be able
to you know, have have the relationships that are already established.
Speaker 3 (05:06):
It's not just an interim tag either.
Speaker 5 (05:08):
Is that important to you to embrace the more full
time and opportunity here? Is that? Is that it you
talk about because the organization's complex here. Yeah, I think
I think it is important. When you know, I think
when you look beyond just this next stretch here that
we have. You know, I think the idea is to
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try to try to start something new and and uh,
you know, you can't do that in thirty four thirty
four games, And I think there's there's quite a bit
of a time that.
Speaker 3 (05:41):
Needs to happen.
Speaker 5 (05:41):
We're going to make a great run at this thing
here at the end. But there's also this idea of
of you know, looking a long term as well, and
I think that's part partly is is very very exciting
as well. Jerry Jerry has said that this was a
few days of the process leading to yesterday.
Speaker 1 (06:00):
What were those few.
Speaker 5 (06:01):
Days like for you as you try to wait, Yeah,
it's a great question.
Speaker 3 (06:08):
I think.
Speaker 5 (06:09):
You know, again, you can say all you want, like
if this comes up, we would do it, and then
when it does come up, you really have to take
time to consider it and think about it. So it
was a lot of contemplating. It was a lot of
understanding what it actually all meant and remembering what it
was like to be here on a daily basis, and
and you know, spending your time in the ballpark, it's
(06:31):
you know, you as a player, it's a little bit
different as a coach. You actually spend more time here,
and as a manager, you spend more time here, so
you know, you have to consider all those things. But
I think the excitement of where this team is, the
excitement of the talent that's in that clubhouse, that's the
part that's very exciting. And then what we have a
chance to do here late in the season brings even
(06:54):
more excitement to the position. How much did Luke Vinella
prepar you to this job? Yeah, well, I think, you know,
the game has changed a lot, and and managers have
changed over time as well. But I think, you know,
when when you look at Lou and the job that
he did, you know, just the fact that he commands
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respect like he did, and and they've demanded our best
every day, I think those are things that hopefully I
can instill as well. I definitely will take what I
can from Lou because he was one of the best,
no doubt about it. And uh, you know, those are
a couple of things that really stand out for me,
and hopefully that's something that that you know, I can
(07:40):
I can continue on here from from Lou. What's some
things that team are looking for? And he's lost thirty
four games.
Speaker 8 (07:47):
This is some kind of jolt because you guys have
quite a good ground to make up and a manager
provide that.
Speaker 5 (07:53):
It is so hot, I don't you know, Uh, it's
it can get it's gonna get done on the field,
and it's you know, I think that this team we
have seen over time has really caught can catch fire,
and can catch fire very quickly, and it becomes very
contagious very quickly. And I and I this is a
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good team. These are these guys have tremendous talent and
sometimes you know, some kind of a change in some
direction can spark something. But these guys have it in
them already. It's not anything that is going to be
artificial by any means. These guys can play. You know,
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we've pitched so well all season, and this offense has
a chance to get really, really hot here towards the end,
and I'm looking forward to it. I think it's going
to be an exciting stretch. And you're obviously not starting
from ground zero with your relationships with these guys. But
what is the challenge of jump innings of that scene
with thirty five is games throw the season and try
to figure.
Speaker 1 (08:56):
Out how to make this all work.
Speaker 5 (08:57):
Yeah, it's a challenge it's all that's that's a big challenge,
is you know, understanding that you want to sort of
take your time to build relationships. We don't have a
lot of and I think that some of these guys,
a lot of the guys that we have on the team,
especially some of the veteran guys are new, you know,
especially after the break and some of the trains we've made,
So getting to know them quickly is going to be
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very very essential. So I'm you know, those are things
that are going to be priorities for me here and
this especially in this homestand is it's getting to know
some of those guys and and and helping them realize
the leadership potential that they have in that clubhouse too.
Bringing on Edgar as you beating coach, just what was
that prosis like? And how can he help them maybe
(09:40):
get a little bit more out of that. Yeah, I
think there's no one I trust more with hitters than Edgar.
You know, the thing about Edgar that I think a
lot of people don't understand is that he was a
tremendous hitter. He just had tremendous talent, but that's not
all he had. He was he studies hitting. He's a
student of hitting and he can break it down better
(10:03):
than anybody. And I think that was the first thought
that came to my mind. And I know he's familiar
with a lot of these guys. He spends a lot
of time here during the season anyway. But the idea
that you know, he can talk a lot about mechanics
as a lot of hitting coaches can, but also his
ideas behind approach, behind the mindset in the batter's box,
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those are things that I think he does exceptionally well
at and I know that that's going to be a
big part of his hitting program going forward.
Speaker 8 (10:36):
And a lot of the conversation has been like with
the players, obviously, everything movie very quickly coming off.
Speaker 7 (10:41):
That road for him.
Speaker 6 (10:42):
Yeah, so far, so good.
Speaker 5 (10:44):
You know, we had some good conversations. I know guars
had some good conversations as well with some of the
hitters already, and I think there's a good feeling. I
think obviously an off day yesterday helped kind of erase
a little bit of that road trip. And now we're
back home and I think these guys are ready to go,
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and it's it's gonna be an exciting series.
Speaker 2 (11:09):
And well, there's not a time time to build the
relationships to hoss shot.
Speaker 5 (11:14):
What do you want to get ask the Sandager's I think,
you know, one of the things I'd like to instill,
and we talked about it a little bit today, is
just this idea that that you know, going out to
win the playoffs or to get to the playoffs, to
win to get to the playoffs is really about getting
(11:39):
ready and prepared each day to go out and fight
and take it. You know, no team is gonna hand
us this this playoff run. And and when we've gone
through and I've gone through it to the past, you
have to earn everything. And so I think hopefully that's
something that we can pass along fairly quickly and help
these guys understand that. And and uh, it's a it's
(12:04):
so far into conversations we've had, I feel like that's uh,
the understanding that that uh, we've got to go out
and take that taught you how to command respects and
that you did it pretty naturally. How do you think
that happens in the modern day form a manager?
Speaker 3 (12:19):
How do you belong to commandage?
Speaker 5 (12:20):
Spect? Yeah, I think it's again, I think building relationships
is is what's The important part here is is that understanding,
understanding UH players and and where and where they're at
and and that's how you get their respect. I think
this group so far has been tremendous at that just
(12:42):
having a few conversations are today. It's been great to
get to know a couple of guys that I didn't know,
and I'm looking forward to, you know, learning from them
as well as we go forward on this, because I
have a lot to learn and because the game has
changed so much. But it's it, it's been. It's I mean,
(13:02):
as far as day one goes, it's been. It's been
pretty good.
Speaker 3 (13:07):
There you go. Good to hear Dan Wilson's voice again.
I almost forgot what he sounded to play.
Speaker 2 (13:12):
But a great guy. We'll see if he's a great manager.
I mean, I understand managers don't win a lot of
games themselves, but I do think they can produce a
shock paddle for a team that has no heartbeat, and
this team clearly.
Speaker 3 (13:27):
Has had no heartbeat.
Speaker 2 (13:28):
I mean, Andrews, I just want to see something, something different,
and what I mean by that.
Speaker 3 (13:34):
Is I want to see quality outs.
Speaker 2 (13:36):
I want to see a just a with a runner
on second base, and one out I want to see,
or no outs. Rather, I want to see somebody just
slap a ball the first base and allow him to
get the third. And then I want to see the
next guy slap a ball the right field for an
out and score him. I mean, I just want to
see little stuff like that because I'm so tired of
(13:58):
this team trying to play for the biginning, because you
know what, it ain't coming. And here's proof it ain't coming.
This is unbelievable. Look this up today, Anders. Remember there
was an eight game stretch against Chicago, Boston, and Philly
where the Mariners scored six or.
Speaker 3 (14:15):
More runs in seven of those eight games.
Speaker 2 (14:17):
Right, Remember that we had we swept Chicago, we were
looking good.
Speaker 3 (14:21):
It was an eight game stretch.
Speaker 2 (14:23):
Other than that stretch of eight games since the fateful
day of June nineteenth, when this all came tumbling down,
all right, which was more than two months ago, other
than that eight game stretch, they have failed to score
four runs eighteen times in twenty two games since the break,
and twenty eight times in thirty five games since June nineteenth.
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Twenty eight times out of thirty five games, they have
failed to get to four the big inning ain't coming.
So when the opportunity presents itself to score one run
this inning and then maybe score one run two or
three innings later, and then score one run two or
three innings later, guess what. You get to three runs,
you win a vast majority of your games. You get
(15:10):
to four runs, you win almost every game. With this
baseball team fifty eight and twenty two. When they score
three runs fifty eight and twenty two, all they need
is three runs. So stop trying to play for the beginning,
because this team doesn't need six runs to win a game.
(15:30):
This team doesn't need a beginning to win a game.
This team needs one run there, one run there, and
one run there. That's all they need to win these games.
Speaker 3 (15:40):
Anders, Yeah, I don't.
Speaker 8 (15:42):
I don't know how I feel about the productive out
conversation because it's it's.
Speaker 3 (15:48):
For this team though.
Speaker 2 (15:48):
I'm not talking about for a normal team with a
seventeenth best ra in baseball. I'm talking about for this
team who if you score three runs, you win fifty
eight out of eighty two.
Speaker 8 (16:00):
It's yeah, it's different in every situation, right, but for
a team that struggles, like you said, to score runs,
giving more outs. Then I understand being productive with those
outs is a good thing to do, But you only
have twenty seven outs to play with, right, so.
Speaker 4 (16:16):
You want fourteen of them are strikeouts?
Speaker 2 (16:18):
Yeah, exactly can we make Can we make seven of
them strikeouts? Yeah? And three or four extra productive outs
instead of the other seven strikeouts.
Speaker 3 (16:26):
Well.
Speaker 8 (16:26):
The other thing you kind of run into is if
you have a guy on first and third with an out,
you and you try and put it in play instead of,
you know, possibly striking out but being a little more patient,
is you've got into a double play in the inning
over instead of having one more chance after that.
Speaker 3 (16:39):
Right.
Speaker 8 (16:40):
So that's kind of where the analytics crowd comes in
and it's like, yeah, strikeouts not the end of the world.
There are obviously situations where you need to get the
ball in the outfield, guy on third, nobody out, guy
on second and third, one out, anyone where that's not
a double play situation.
Speaker 6 (16:54):
I understand.
Speaker 8 (16:55):
But I just think that that kind of productive out
conversation is not going to turn this team from putrid
offense into the offense it needs to be to be
a World Series contender like we all thought they were
going to be this year. I think it's a complete
top to bottom offensive approach change.
Speaker 3 (17:14):
And yes, I would agree with that.
Speaker 8 (17:16):
Probably won't change this year obviously, and it probably won't
change unless Jerry Depoto is fired. But I guess in
terms of the rest of this year, I can kind
of see what you're saying. You just need to get
any sort of offense that you can, any sort of
run production that you can.
Speaker 2 (17:30):
Any any way to get the three. I mean, it's
anyway you get to.
Speaker 3 (17:34):
Three, and that's usually equaling a win.
Speaker 2 (17:37):
And these one run losses, you know, you think back
to these games, and they are two and nine in
their last eleven one run games, two and nine.
Speaker 6 (17:46):
And I used to be a calling card for this team.
Speaker 4 (17:49):
I mean, if they were just six and five, man, yeah,
we'd be.
Speaker 2 (17:53):
Right smack in this thing. And we'd be six and
five in those one run games if we didn't strike
out with runners on at first, third and one out
right instead, if we could just you know, just slap something, slap.
Speaker 3 (18:04):
A slow roller to first and get.
Speaker 2 (18:06):
The guy in for God's sake, So you know it.
We'll see if there's any any major changes. Have we
heard from Edgar yet.
Speaker 8 (18:13):
Or we I just got it about okay, thirty seconds ago.
That way you go through it and sift through and
get the best stuff. But we can get that ready
for your next segment.
Speaker 2 (18:21):
That is the hard working Andrews Hurst right there, or
as Softie calls him, oh NDErs unders the bell here
from here from Edgar coming up next on ninety three
point three KJRFM.
Speaker 1 (18:34):
Live from the R and R Foundation Specialists Broadcast Studio.
Now back to Softie and Dick one, your home for
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Speaker 3 (18:51):
A little lineups are out. Andrews tell me if.
Speaker 2 (18:57):
You hear much of a difference between the last lineup
that Scott Servis ever rolled out as manager of the
Seattle Mayor Okay, two nights ago and the first lineup
ever rolled out by Dan Wilson News Skipper, Top four Guys.
Speaker 4 (19:12):
Raley Rodriguez Rally a rose Arena.
Speaker 2 (19:15):
That was Wednesday, Raley Rodriguez Rally A Rosina Today. Raley
Rodriguez Rally A Rosna number five Wednesday, Polanco today, Polanco
numbers seven, eight and nine. Canzone Rojas Revas on Wednesday
(19:36):
today ken Zone Rojas Revas. The only change is that
Turner has hit sixth on Wednesday and Hanneger is hitting
sixth to night.
Speaker 3 (19:46):
So it's so different.
Speaker 2 (19:48):
No, it's copy, copy and paste, copy and paste now,
not a lot of other options obviously, but uh, you know,
we'll see if there will be any changes in the
batting order, and we'll see how any changes I'm interested
to see tonight, you know, right away, are we going
to see approaches at the plate that are different? And
one of the guys that I hope will get actually
(20:10):
some influence in how these guys approach the plate is
Edgar Martinez, probably, you know, the greatest hitter in Mariner
history if you're just talking about your hit, yes, pure hit,
the greatest pure hitter in Mariner history, Edgar Martinez and
one of the greatest right handed pure hitters of all
time now coaching the Mariner hitters, and we hear from
(20:32):
him right now from here.
Speaker 5 (20:33):
What was your reaction when they reached out to you
about how much contemplating did you have to.
Speaker 9 (20:38):
Do as the power saying yes, oh, I didn't have
to do much contemplating. Dan Will was the one that
called me, and uh, I at first I thought he
was joking, but but is Uh, I didn't have to
think that much. So uh, I was exciting, excited for
him and exciting excited to work with him.
Speaker 5 (21:01):
Edgar, you know all of them, you've worked with them,
But what do you tell them now?
Speaker 9 (21:07):
I think that the focusing is, you know, it's gonna
be about just thinking about the approach, thinking about fighting
for their bats, like this is their bats and just
fighting for that and having you know, be ready for
(21:29):
a plan. But that the approach is is something that
we're going to stress a lot.
Speaker 7 (21:35):
Is it a different approach or is it more focused
on the approach?
Speaker 9 (21:39):
Well, the approach which is the one that I believe
kind of using the middle of the field ah and
fastball ready and I just do to other beaches uh
and in the fundamental side of the game, just doing
the little things moving the runners, uh. Having focus on
(22:03):
men in escort position or third base, listen to out
how to approach that situation. And it's going to be
just conversation with them and getting feedback. And I'm here
just to support them to be able to achieve those goals.
Speaker 5 (22:22):
What does it like to.
Speaker 9 (22:24):
What does that mean to you? Well, when you have
to strikes, you know, it's just making an adjustment to battle.
You know, you have to do some adjustments. Sometimes you
have to just cut the swing down and try to
(22:45):
look in the general area. But basically it's it's just
giving everything you have to to make that guy make
a mistake because the result of that, sometimes when you
fight like that with two strikes, the pitcher have to
throw more pitches. He probably don't throw para bad eight
to ten pitches, and that can make a big difference
(23:07):
for the game.
Speaker 6 (23:08):
I for Wholio has become the face of disfranchise.
Speaker 8 (23:11):
I think he didn't say this is the kind of
you that he would want playing if you seen specifically
when you feel like.
Speaker 3 (23:18):
You better kind of stretch.
Speaker 9 (23:21):
I think he's trying really hard, like too hard. Sometimes
he wanted to do his job, obviously, and he wanted
to do well. I like to help him just kind
of just focus on enjoy playing the game and just
give the best effort and don't think about anything else.
(23:42):
Let himself come out and just play the game and
don't think about anything else.
Speaker 5 (23:49):
Are there in the challenges of keeping an the modern game,
so to speak, in.
Speaker 3 (23:53):
An oolytics and just how you know information.
Speaker 9 (23:56):
Is to separate how it really is is is so
much information and some players can handle that, but not
every player can. You know, they become too fixated on
whether it's sexy velocity or I don't know how many
(24:17):
they are, but uh, and I'm gonna try to help
them just kind of focus on what is important, that
is just giving you the best effort on the field,
and be yourself. You know, they have to know if
they're contact hitter, if their gap hit to gap hitter,
or it's hoong hitter. But I don't think we have
(24:40):
many of those. So it's just be yourself and and
don't trying to be who you're not.
Speaker 2 (24:49):
So well in an effort not to be Pollyanna. I
was encouraged by what I heard there, and yeah, I
might I was encouraged. I mean, nobody used the middle
of the field better in my lifetime than Edger Martinez. Yeah,
I mean, nobody hit from left center to right center
(25:09):
better than Edgar Martinez. And he said he wants to
emphasize middle of the field. He said moving the runners. Gosh,
did I get all tingled I.
Speaker 3 (25:21):
Said when he said moving the runners?
Speaker 2 (25:24):
How to approach the bat when there's a runner on
third in less than two outs. I mean, some of
the things that we just talked about in the In
the last segment, he says, cutting the swing down.
Speaker 3 (25:34):
With two strikes because God, with this team.
Speaker 2 (25:37):
Man, every swing looks the same. It doesn't matter if
it's three to zero. It doesn't matter if it's O two,
it doesn't matter if it's a fastball in or a
slider away. Every swing looks exactly the same.
Speaker 3 (25:53):
It's just a swing.
Speaker 2 (25:54):
As hard as you can and pray and and that
was the the greatness about Edgar Martinez is like he
could just you know, talk about pitchers changing speeds and
going from a ninety seven mile an hour fastball to
an eighty eight mile an hour changeup.
Speaker 3 (26:09):
Edgar Martinez would change speeds, man.
Speaker 2 (26:12):
Yeah, he would change bad angles, he would change speeds
of his swing, he'd i mean contact points. He was
just an absolute master at it. Now, just because you're
a master at it doesn't mean you're gonna be a
master at teaching other people how to do it. Because
some of the things that Edgar could do just it's
impossible for anybody else. Yeah, it's impossible for anybody else
(26:34):
to do it like that. It's like Tiger Woods trying
to teach me, right, It's like there's just certain things.
Speaker 3 (26:40):
You know, Tiger could give me a lot of great tips.
Speaker 2 (26:42):
And I watch a lot of great I watch a
lot of great Tiger tips on YouTube, but I ain't
ever gonna be Tiger right right.
Speaker 8 (26:50):
So, and you see this in other sports where sometimes
the best coaches are weren't the most talented players. It's
because it's the guys that have had to grind everywhere.
And I don't think Edgar falls into that category because
he definitely had to grind for what he got and
he was a very fundamental hitter. I just question whether
that approach is going to jive with the modern day
(27:12):
baseball player, right, yeah.
Speaker 2 (27:13):
And well, and not only I think it'll jive with
the modern day baseball player because I think a coach
can get through to younger guys with a but will.
Speaker 3 (27:23):
It jive with modern day numbers? What the numbers say
that you should.
Speaker 6 (27:29):
Do slash the modern day analytics department?
Speaker 3 (27:31):
Yes exactly.
Speaker 2 (27:32):
I mean that's that to me is more because I
think you know a lot of these guys that Edgar
will get, you know, some of them are veterans that
have been around, like Justin Turner has been around pre analytics,
right right, I mean, so he knows he knows what
it's like to hit before all these numbers came in.
Speaker 8 (27:51):
Analytics is what made him good because he was kind
of a failed prospect and when he was in what
Oakland and then he went to LA they kind of
taught him a new way to hit, and he all
of a sudden became one of the best hitters in baseball,
one of the best postseason hitters in baseball too. So
there is something to be said about how it's delivered too,
And I think that's where somewhere where I could really help.
Speaker 2 (28:10):
And I'm just I want something in the middle. Yeah,
I mean, god, it's it's just everything. It seems like
everything in life these days has just got to be
a million miles to one direction or a million miles
to the other direction. And I just think we've gone
so far to the analytics side of things that can
we just swing the pendulum back a little bit more
(28:32):
into just the field process and the you know, the
gut the gut field process and the just the being able.
Speaker 3 (28:39):
To score runs when you're supposed to score runs.
Speaker 2 (28:42):
And if we can just marry it. If we can,
if we can marry the numbers with the feel, then
then maybe, you know, because eventually it's gonna swing back.
Yeah right, I mean, analytics isn't gonna rule baseball for
the next fifty years.
Speaker 8 (28:56):
I think I think it might. I think it's getting
in every other sport too. Baseball was kind of the
first one it really got into. And now like PFF
with all the numbers of football and uh, you know
basketball with uh there's there's all the plus minus and everything.
I'm not as much of a gig with that kind
of thing.
Speaker 2 (29:11):
But but even in basketball, though, like you, it went
to the it went to the extreme with the with
the Houston Rockets about seven or eight years ago, where
if you don't take a three or a layup, it's
a bad shot, right, That was the but and then
it's but then it's come back a little bit, right,
And now the mid range jumpers are much more prevalent
(29:32):
now than they were, you know seven eight years ago,
when seven eight years.
Speaker 3 (29:36):
Old, mid range jumpers are the worst efficiency shot you
could ever take, right, you know.
Speaker 2 (29:42):
Yeah, but but if you're good at it and teams
don't defend it, well, then they become more efficient. So
it's just kinda kind of swinging back and forth. Are
we gonna talk to Neil next segment from from Team Mobile?
Speaker 6 (29:54):
We are indeed the.
Speaker 2 (29:56):
Legend Neil Scott. He has not been on the show
for a while. He has covered and the Mariners for
US today down at Team Mobile Park. He was there
for the Dan Wilson press conference and the Edgar Martinez
press conference. Will chat with him next on ninety three
point three KJRFM.
Speaker 1 (30:12):
Live from the R and R Foundation Specialists Broadcast Studio.
Now back to Softie and Dick on your Home for
the Huskies and the Kreken Sports Radio ninety three point
three KJR FM.
Speaker 2 (30:29):
Friday Night for baseball Baseball in Seattle at Team Mobile Park,
Baseball in Tacoma with the Tacoma Rainiers. Yes, the gates
are open, there are people filing in. Yeah, I know,
it's though the weather isn't the best. But so far,
so good on playing baseball thus far here in tacomab
But that's why they have the roof over there at
the Big Ballpark. And Neil Scott is under the roof
(30:51):
right now in Seattle and he joins us right now.
Speaker 3 (30:53):
Neil, how you doing man.
Speaker 7 (30:55):
I'm doing great, dick under the roof in the rain.
Everything Old is New?
Speaker 3 (31:00):
Yeah, oh boy?
Speaker 4 (31:03):
Should that be just I think that should be.
Speaker 2 (31:06):
A banner at T Mobile Parks along with their along
with the other banners that they hold up there. They
throw up there everything old is New again, because that
just seems like them for this franchise, doesn't it.
Speaker 7 (31:20):
Yeah, it's it's throwback weekend, a throwback end of the season.
Speaker 3 (31:23):
Actually, but it's been.
Speaker 2 (31:25):
But that's the way they operate, right, I mean, it's
just you know, a couple of no I put it
tweet out yesterday. I was just like, this was the
least surprising Mariner move of all, having Dan Wilson and
Edgar Martinez come back to run your ball club. I'm
not saying it's a bad thing. I'm just saying it's
the most meriti thing because that's what people criticize them for.
(31:47):
People criticize the Mariners for constantly rerunning shows about ninety five,
right and having all these throwback days.
Speaker 7 (31:55):
Absolutely, this is the thirteenth new manager that I have
covered since nineteen eighty nine. My first manager is Jim
left Fever, and le Fever takes me back to what
nineteen eighty nine, nineteen ninety. I've seen him come and
I've seen them go.
Speaker 3 (32:11):
I was a l fever believer. Absolutely well, we're all.
Speaker 2 (32:15):
He got us the five hundred man and then they
fired him and hired Bill Plumber and he won. We
won sixty games after that. But you know what, what's
your what's your take?
Speaker 3 (32:25):
Neil?
Speaker 2 (32:25):
And I want to get the scenes that are down
there as well, but I want to ask you, what's
your take on just the decision to go to Dan
Wilson for the foreseeable future and not just on an
interim basis.
Speaker 7 (32:38):
I think when they approached Dan, and this is just
my own feeling that he said he would take it,
but not on an interim basis, that it would have
to be more than just you know, the rest of
the season. From some of the people I've talked to
down here at ballpark today, that's the feeling that I'm getting.
It's the way the whole thing happened, and you know,
(33:00):
the incredible way that its service found out about it
through social media. I mean, that's terrible. I can't even
tell you how upset everybody is about that. I'm not
sure how that happened you know.
Speaker 3 (33:15):
We had Jerry Brewer on earlier.
Speaker 2 (33:16):
He was theorizing that ye Ken Rosenthal was promised to
scoop and that he got the scoop but put it
out faster than he was supposed to. That was the
theory from Jerry. Doesn't know anything obviously specifically, but you
know that that adds up because obviously Jerry, to put it,
(33:38):
was shocked to see it. So you know, Jerry, I
think Jerry said something in the fact that Jerry put
his trust on in someone and that trust was broken.
Speaker 3 (33:48):
So that's it.
Speaker 2 (33:50):
But it makes Jerry look horrible, There's no question about that.
Give us kind of the the vibe in the clubhouse
walking around? Does it feel I mean, you've you've been
in so many of these this year, in the year past.
I mean, does the vibe feel different in the clubhouse today?
Speaker 3 (34:03):
Over there?
Speaker 7 (34:04):
Well, it was kind of like a morgue only because
none of the players at the clubhouse was open. But
none of the players were around. They were conveniently in
the back room or in the back cages. We all
kind of waited around, but nobody show up. Now, when
I got here, I rode down in the elevator, I
put my stuff down in the press box, went to
(34:26):
the elevator. I get in the elevator. There's only one
other person in the elevator, Jerry. Total interesting.
Speaker 3 (34:33):
Did you say anything to them?
Speaker 7 (34:36):
Yeah, I said, you know, it's been twenty four hours later.
How are you feeling today? I mean, what's your feeling
on this? He said, the right people in the right place,
and it's time to do it. I'm excited.
Speaker 2 (34:49):
Well, I mean, I hope we see It would be
nice just to see some sort of a spark, not
only a winning spark, but just some sort of difference
than what we've seen in the past.
Speaker 3 (35:00):
Can we see some? So we heard Edgar.
Speaker 2 (35:02):
You know, what, what did you make of Edgar's conversation
with the media today, Because I thought, you know, some
of the specifics he threw out as far as the
approach to.
Speaker 3 (35:10):
Hitting, they were very Edgar esque. But I loved him.
Speaker 2 (35:13):
I mean I loved it when he said middle of
the field. I loved what he said, you know, advancing runners.
I loved what he said, approach with two strikes. I mean,
all those things that this baseball team has been lacking.
Speaker 7 (35:24):
Absolutely. But you know, at this point, it's all talk.
It's the players that have to respond, the players that
have to do it, and it's up to them, and
maybe maybe it will be a spark. You know, I'm
not sure. I feel bad again for Scott's service, the
the way the whole thing happened. And I was talking
to Rick Riz and he showed that. I said, have
you heard from Scott since this went down? They said
he had texted him yesterday and he responded today with
(35:46):
a text, and he showed me the text from Scott's service.
And I'm not going to tell you what was in it,
but I'll tell you that was filled with gratitude and
praise for Rick and praise for the organization. So you know,
it was time. But the way that it went down
was not right.
Speaker 3 (36:06):
Yeah, no question. Neil always a pleasure man. Enjoy the game.
Speaker 7 (36:09):
Tonight, Okay, enjoy your game down at to come on, my.
Speaker 3 (36:12):
Friend, Thanks for joining us.
Speaker 2 (36:14):
That's Neil Scott, a long time KJR contributor here for
many many years. When he said the first manager he
covered with Jim Lefever back in the late eighties, all right, well,
head to the six hour, six o'clock hour. We're gonna
switch our focus to the world of fantasy football. I
know a lot of you out there sitting in traffic
probably have fantasy drafts over the next week or two.
(36:36):
I've got two fantasy drafts hey over over the next
two weeks.
Speaker 3 (36:40):
So I need all sorts.
Speaker 2 (36:41):
Of help from the number one guy I trust during
my fantasy drafts every year, and that is Dave Richard
from CBS Sports Fantasy Football Today podcast.
Speaker 3 (36:52):
He is absolutely fantastic.
Speaker 2 (36:53):
I use his I have his rankings right next to
me when I do my fantasy draft, and we have
an opportunity to pick his brain for the next twenty
minutes after a top of the Hour headlines on ninety
three point three KJIRFM
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