October 11, 2024 • 30 mins
In the second hour, Hugh and Dick breakdown the Huskies taking on Iowa bright and early tomorrow. Does it reign true that this year's defense is better than last season's? What can we expect from Will Rogers the rest of the season? Where are the Seahawks falling short and where are the team leaders?
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Hawks lose thirty six twenty four last night to the Niners,
their third consecutive loss. They have a bit of an
extended break now taking on Atlanta a week from Sunday.
Jordan Mason's sprains shoulder for the Niners that he suffered
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they take on Cincinnati on Sunday Night. Football. Other injury news,
Colt's running back Jonathan Taylor out Sunday, but Anthony Richardson
should get the start again at quarterback as he's back
from injury. Joe Mixon questionable for Sunday after another limited
to practice for Houston, and Mike Tomlin says Russell Wilson
will be activated for the Steelers for the first time
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Duke Legend Carlos Boozer. All right, let's roll into the
four o'clock hour. Let's go Tuttle out of the shotgun
takes a snap. He's gonna drop back to throw. Tuttle
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has tons of time.
Speaker 1 (01:14):
He zips it.
Speaker 4 (01:14):
Hear so picked dove that are set to tempt to
kill it in.
Speaker 1 (01:20):
The sixth year.
Speaker 2 (01:22):
Senior comes up with.
Speaker 4 (01:24):
The interception and this dog defense ump back to back possessions,
comes up with the takeaway to give the dogs the
ball with a.
Speaker 1 (01:33):
Twenty four to seventeen lead.
Speaker 3 (01:36):
Ah, so cool just being in that stadium.
Speaker 1 (01:39):
I mean, it wasn't.
Speaker 3 (01:40):
Quite the vibe that Oregon was last year, but what's
going to beat the vibe that Oregon was last year?
But it was still a great, great time and so
cool to see. As Tony mentioned, they're a sixth year senior,
a guy that has gone through four head coaches and
has decided to stay in the Purple and Gold through
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all of them. Make one of the plays of the
game and one of the plays of the season. I'm
sure we'll be looking back at that pick at the
end of the year and say that was one of
the one of the big plays of the season. But
you know, it doesn't stop in this conference, Hugh. And
I mean that's the one thing about the Big Ten.
I mean, you're gonna have You're gonna have some games
like Northwestern that you can kind of skip your way through,
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but most of them are gonna be hard hitting affairs.
And we're gonna see another game kind of like we
did against Michigan.
Speaker 1 (02:29):
How much does that help, Hugh.
Speaker 3 (02:31):
When you face a team like Michigan and then you
face a similar style team seven days later.
Speaker 1 (02:38):
I think it helps.
Speaker 4 (02:39):
I think that you kind of grooved in, you have
a faith in a belief. Okay, this is how we
play this team. And and you know the you know
the stats that that I really point to here Iowa
yards per pass. Now, they have a veteran quarterback in
Cave mc mcnamary.
Speaker 1 (02:58):
He's a sixth year guy.
Speaker 4 (02:59):
Remember watching him at a high school camp. My son's
first college start was in the Big House, and he
was the starter for Michigan. I've watched this guy for
a long time, and you know here, whether it's the
system every year or whatever, but Iowa four point eight
yards per per pass attempt. That's number one, thirty one
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in the NCAA out of one hundred and thirty two teams. Meanwhile,
the corresponding statistic for Washington also four point eight. These
are mirrored. Four point eight yards per attempt. One's really
good for the Huskies. Their defense, that's number three in
the nation. One's very poor obviously offensively, and so I
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think there's no bigger discrepancy there. You just I you know,
watched them on tape and yeah, they always have good
tight ends, and their tight ends look like they moved
pretty well, but just not a fast football team Iowa.
On either side of the ball. Yeah, there's nobody who
really scares you. I think, uh, you know, even their
running back. They're they're running the ball pretty well. But
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that Caleb Johnson there, they're number one back. I don't know,
there's a lot of toughness there. I think you hit him,
I don't. I don't see a lot of grit with him.
So I think there's some opportunities here, Dick.
Speaker 3 (04:19):
Well, you know what's interesting is The four top running
backs at least by yards in the Pac twelve are
Caleb Johnson number one, the guy we saw two weeks ago,
Kyle man On guy number two in Rutgers, Jonah Coleman,
our own guy number three, and then Khalail Mullings who
we saw last week in Michigan, number four. So, so
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you mentioned the toughness, I mean, how does how does
Caleb Johnson compare to those other three top backs in
the Big ten? One is ours in Jonah Coleman, and
the other two of the ones we just faced in
each of the last two weeks.
Speaker 4 (04:53):
Well, I think he's kind of looking to hit the
big play. And you know they've they're five point seven
yards per rush, tenth in the country, so you have
to respect him. But I think I've seen times on
tape where he he's kind of looking to just absorb hits.
He's not really looking to finish runs. And so I
think if you really have a mindset to hit him,
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I think maybe you can. You know, I'm just making inferences,
but I think you can. You can intimidate him a
little bit, just bring that physicality.
Speaker 1 (05:24):
So do you But do you play?
Speaker 3 (05:26):
I'm sorry, go ahead, do you want to know finish? No,
do you play the same? Like, talk to me about
the type of Because I haven't talked to you about
the Husky game. I've talked to you a lot. I've
talked to you a lot about Seawk football this week
and two postgame shows. I haven't talked to you one
word about the about the Husky. So talk about how
they defended a very limited pass game against Michigan last week,
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and how you think they will defend this very limited
passing game.
Speaker 1 (05:52):
Will it be the same.
Speaker 4 (05:54):
Well, I think you throw a variety at you know,
first of all, with the first kid who played for Michigan,
and I mean that's just you know, a gussied up
DK Metcalf. You know, that's just you know, right, I mean,
you know six, you know, you know, just beautiful looking athlete,
but not a quarterback.
Speaker 1 (06:10):
I mean, no anticipation, no accuracy.
Speaker 4 (06:12):
I think they brought in Tuttle and and you know,
I thought they did a nice job of kind of
collapsing the pocket. He had moderate athleticism, certainly not like
the starter, and so I thought that they squeezed the
pocket on him. And then they've got the guys that
can play man to man, they can play a single high.
So I think that they they have some some options
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when it comes to coverages because they feel like they
can man up.
Speaker 1 (06:39):
And certainly when you look at this, I would team
and that.
Speaker 4 (06:43):
You know, again, I think they're they're speed deprived and
so I feel like you can you can play a
grace aggressive. You can sit on on on the shorter
routes because if you if you overplay the shorter routes
and they happen to go deep on you, well, they
don't have that surge to just separate or separated away
from you. You're you could be momentarily on back uh
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off balance as you're anticipating the the shorter throws and
then still be able to respond to the deeper throws.
Speaker 1 (07:11):
Right.
Speaker 4 (07:11):
It's it's kind of like going against a guy who's fat,
you know, a batter that you know the fastball is
only ninety one miles, you know, eighty nine miles an
hour or something. You know, it just gives you more
options as as you try and guess what you're going
to see.
Speaker 1 (07:25):
But yeah, they have the the the.
Speaker 4 (07:30):
The Huskies have the personnel on the perimeter to be
multiple in their looks.
Speaker 3 (07:36):
I made a comment on the on the postgame show
I think was aft. I think it's before the Rutgers
game or not the postgame show, the Husky Hanks Show,
when I was I was hosting for for Mario that day,
and I made the comment that I said, I think
that this Husky defense is as good or maybe even
better than last year's Husky defense, and Softy looked at
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me like I had three eyeballs, and then Greg said, yeah,
I agree with you. And then when you look at
the numbers, now it's only been half a season. Yards
allowed eighth this year, ninety second last year, yards per
play sixth this year, seventy eighth last year, points allowed
eleventh this year, fifty fourth last year, yards per carry
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forty fifth this year, ninety eighth last year, passer rating
third this year, twenty seventh last year, and red zone
sixth this year, eighty fourth last year. Now, are those
numbers telling or you know, is it competition, you know,
not facing good offenses? Is this defense as good or
better than the one that went to the National Championship
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Game last year?
Speaker 4 (08:42):
Yeah, I'd be willing to bite on that, just because
I never really felt like last year's defense was a
dominant defense. I mean, they were paired with an epic offense, right,
so that gave him a lot of latitude there was
that allowed them to play, you know, from with a lead.
A lot of times, the Huskies were controlling, they were
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putting pressure on the opponents because they're scoring a lot
and scoring and so so, I don't know, I just
never felt like they were premier. And you know, they
played well enough to win obviously, but in both the
Oregon games, the Ducks scored over thirty points. In the
semi final game Texas was they were over thirty points?
Speaker 1 (09:24):
Were they not?
Speaker 4 (09:26):
You know, And there's a portion of that first half
of the championship game where they look like they're playing
with eight guys. So there's nothing really that really impressed
me by national Championship standards from that defense.
Speaker 1 (09:40):
So I think it's a little early.
Speaker 4 (09:42):
Let's see what happens tomorrow, play Penn State, you know,
maybe even wait for the you know, I don't know
if we need to wait for the Oregon game, but
I think we need to let the season play out.
But I wouldn't be surprised at all if that's a
valid claim by the end of the year on.
Speaker 1 (09:57):
The offensive side of the ball.
Speaker 3 (09:58):
I think you and I talked about it some point
over the summer, you know, our expectations of Will Rogers,
and I kind of threw out. I was like, hey,
you know, I'm just kind of expecting them to be
Jake Browning, you know, just your solid, veteran college football
quarterback that kind of gets the ball to the right spot,
never going to wow you. And I think he's been
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at least that, if not more than that. What's been
your assessment of the quarterback?
Speaker 4 (10:25):
Yeah, I think that's an apt comparison. I mean, you
go back to a year ago Michael Pennix in terms of.
Speaker 1 (10:32):
The throws twenty yards or more air yards.
Speaker 4 (10:36):
Okay, so the ball is going to be targeted twenty
yards from the sideline or excuse me, the line scrimmage
of more that Michael Pennix was number one in the
NCAA with one hundred and seventeen attempts. Second place was
ninety seven. So the gap between one and two was
equal to the gap between two and eleven. So Pennis
far and away was, you know, the mad bomber right
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at least reflected by that statistic. Well, here you got
in Will Rogers. He's got twenty one attempts thus far.
That's ranked fifty ninth. Twenty one attempts again ball twenty
eight yards or more.
Speaker 1 (11:13):
But his passer rating is three hundred and eleven.
Speaker 4 (11:18):
Now that's if you're if you say, wait a minute,
NFL passer rating isn't one fifty eight point three a
perfect rating?
Speaker 1 (11:24):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (11:25):
So this is what I can say about passer ratings
without getting to geeky.
Speaker 1 (11:29):
They have the.
Speaker 4 (11:30):
Same four components in the NFL and the College, which
are completion percentage, yards per attempt, touchdown percentage, and interception percentage.
The four same components, but they mix it up in
the stew different to kick out different numbers. Right, So
three eleven sounds like an absurd number. Well, it's fourth
in the country. So this is a guy in Rogers
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that that he doesn't have nearly. You know, Pendix has
that beautiful stroke down the field and he can put
it on a line deep down the field and whatever.
Speaker 1 (11:59):
You know.
Speaker 4 (11:59):
He he doesn't have Panix's arm Rogers, but there's something
about his And this is where I talk about the
accuracy has more to do not with mechanics, but with
kind of a right brain. We know, on the left
side of the brain is the analytics side. The right
side of the brain is the creative side, you know,
the artistic side.
Speaker 1 (12:20):
The right side of the brain.
Speaker 4 (12:22):
When you are a good deep ball thrower, you kind
of create your your You say, Okay, I have to
lead the guy way down the field. You know, sometimes
twenty twenty twenty five yards where I'm leading.
Speaker 1 (12:35):
But you got to kind of guess.
Speaker 4 (12:37):
And so when you see a guy like Rogers walking
all these deep balls out there and hitting guys in stride,
I don't think that's a mechanic thing, uh, With with
throwing the ball, I think that's as much and obviously
you've got to have the skill to throw it. But
I think it's a it's a to use an aviation term, vectoring.
Speaker 1 (12:56):
You're vectoring.
Speaker 4 (12:57):
He's saying, Okay, the moving target, I'm gonna throw this football.
It's gonna wait and way down there, it's gonna intersect
my receiver and hit him in full stride. So he
has that innate kind of processing. At least what we've
seen thus far, I mean, three hundred and eleven passer
rating on throws twenty yards or more.
Speaker 1 (13:15):
From line scrimmage.
Speaker 4 (13:16):
I don't think he has a big arm, but those
numbers are hard to dispute. In that regard, there's a
little bit of similarity with Brock Purdy, who doesn't have
a big arm but somehow finds a way to keep
getting completions down the field. And at some point you say, well,
the numbers are outpacing what my eyes tell me with
his physical traits. So you got to dig a little
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bit and say, well, you know, he's probably doing a
pretty good job in the manners that I'm describing, specifically
the vectoring down the field. So I think he's a
threat to really keep defenses on you know. You know,
he's gonna hit a couple of big balls, you know,
and oftentimes that's the difference between winning and losing.
Speaker 3 (13:57):
Well in particular, like you mentioned the lack of athleticism
on this Iowa team, I mean, certainly Iowa's corners and
safeties don't have the athleticism as Michigan's corners in safeties.
They just don't get the same kind of recruits that
Michigan gets. So Giles Jackson and Jeremiah Hunter and Denzel Boston,
I mean, you light up three wide with Jonah Coleman
in the in the back. That's gonna be a load
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for Iowa to try to handle tomorrow.
Speaker 4 (14:20):
Yeah, well that was my first note is oh wow,
team speed not great. And so I think there's a physicality,
there's a you know, a tenacity.
Speaker 1 (14:31):
You know, we're wading into the you know, the the.
Speaker 4 (14:33):
Stereotypes of the typical white guys with the you know,
high energy, you know, uh stuff, but may be limited
in athleticism. And and you know, there's white there's always
seems like there's always white dudes all over the front
seven for Iowa. But you know, I don't know, I
just don't see twitchiness. Yeah, uh from them. And uh
now they they're they're they're coach well and like I said,
they're gonna give you effort and and they're gonna play
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with some physicality. But you don't see that that that
athleticism that sometimes kind of scares you.
Speaker 1 (15:02):
You mentioned twitchiness.
Speaker 3 (15:03):
Demon Williams has got some twitchiness. How do you like
how they're using Demond Williams And do you like the
frequency of how they're using demand Williams.
Speaker 1 (15:12):
Yeah, I'm not a big fan of it.
Speaker 4 (15:14):
You know, it's worked out okay for him, and and
and maybe I'll eat my words next September if he's
playing well, and you say, hey, remember all those those
series that he got all last year, and and and
and he's that much further along. So so I understand
that there's there's trying to be a little bit of
a method to the madness there. But I think as
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it pertains to you know, there's there's times where you
look and say, that's that that has the potential to
upset the apple cart. You know, I think to uh
Will Rogers credit and I mean, I still try and
stay connected to this team, and I keep getting these
laudatory assessments of Will Rogers' leadership, like this guy has
really come in and made an impression, and which is
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hard to do when you're following up Michael Hennicks. But
I think, you know, he's been a yeoman and and
been a team guy. But you know, because he's likable,
I think it's natural to have clicks, and uh, it
just it just happens. And you say, okay, well, I'm
a demand guy, I'm a I'm a Will Rogers guy.
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Oh well we're you know are we are? We the
new Huskies? The Old Huskies like there. This is a
ripe Petrie dish for division, and I think when you're winning,
you don't see much of that. But if you have
a few setbacks, then you know, you could get some
grousing about this. So I'm not sold on it. I
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understand that there's some benefits. Everybody's excited about demand, but
it's been a detraction. You could argue that it was
a substantial factor in the Washington State loss when you
consider the end of the second quarter. Uh, you know,
you you throw a screen pass out there to to
Jonah Williams on on third and two, and you only
get one yard because the Cougars know that demon Williams
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doesn't present a passing threat. If that same screen is
thrown by Will Rogers, and the defense has to be
much more concerned about Will Rodgers' ability to throw the
ball down the field. Do I believe that that Will
Rogers gets that screen in that first down and convert
and and maybe you avoid that crippling touchdown late in
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the second quarter by the Cougs. Yeah, I mean all
this stuff has a domino effect, and so I don't
think it was insignificant in the loss. So I don't want,
you know, in a tight game, now all of a sudden,
you upset the cohesion, you upset the momentum because of
the desire to get to Mon Williams. I don't want
to see another loss because of it. So I would
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say I'm not a great fan of it. I'm not
an ardent, like I'm not going to die on a
beach to be a critic about it. I recognize some
of the plus is involved, but I'm a little skeptical
about it.
Speaker 3 (17:59):
If I were to summarize, well, you mentioned leadership, and
I want to get to leadership in the next segment
because the Seahawks right now appear to have a little
bit of a leadership issue with some of their big
name players. And I want to open up the text
line as well for textimonials at four forty five. How
concerned are you about the Seahawks after their three game
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losing streak. How concerned are you about the coaching? How
concerned are you about the the leadership? Four nine, four
five one shoot us some texts at the textimonial segment
for four forty five, but we'll get Hughes take on
Geno and DK and just kind of the antics we're
seeing on the sidelines of Gino, you know, hitting himself
in the head with the computer and DK kind of
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slumping on the sidelines. We'll talk about that next on
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middle of October. It's a busy, busy time of the
year for the NFL and college football. And we'll get
back to Seahawks here, Hugh and I, you know, being
at the game like I always am. I miss when
when things happen on the sidelines, like like we had
with you know, Percy Harvin back in the day, you know,
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when he was refusing to go in and you know,
things that you see on TV you don't see when
you're sitting in the stands. And I'm kind of glad
the last couple of weeks that I've actually not watched
some of the antics on the sidelines that they've been
showing on the on the television broadcast, because I really
had no idea when I went to do the postgame
show yesterday and I walk over to Jimmy's I didn't
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know that Geno Smith banged his head with a computer.
And I didn't know that Dk Metcalf was, you know,
slumping in his chair, and that he was screaming at
his coach on the on the telephone and those type
of things, and so and I'm kind of glad I
didn't because I might have focused on him too much
and the h I have a tendency to focus on
things like that a little bit. So I'm glad I
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didn't see those. But what was your take of those
things that you were watching on the sidelines from a
team that you would hopefully see some leadership and two
veterans like Geno Smith and and DK Metcalf that maybe
went lacking last night.
Speaker 4 (20:49):
Well, first of all, let me say I think that
leadership is always used in a positive content connotation. He's
a leader in my experience bouncing around. It's my opinion
that the best players on every team are leaders because
their teammates respect them. DK Metcalf has been voted by
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his peers around the NFL in when they have those
top one hundred vote. For the last five years, he's
been voted the number one player on the Seahawks. There
was only one year where it was Bobby Wagner. And
so he's absolutely a leader, whether it's a positive leader
or it's a negative leader. Now a week ago, I
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did not have a hard time with him when he
closed his eyes because I don't know what's in his
head that he may have been meditated, Like okay, let
me calm down, breathe them through my nose, XL through
my mouth, kind of visualize and get back to the
state I need to be in. So I don't I
don't think eyes closed are necessarily an indictment of where
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a guy's head is. But the slouching is something that
I think is a b is BBL bad body language.
And I think because he is again a leader, I
think he needs to be a positive leader and for
those young guys. They need to see something more from
DK and then Gino these last two weeks, I think uncharacteristically,
I don't think he's handled adversity well, there's a frustration
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there and it hasn't been I mean, I was with
Troy Aikman. He's a feisty dude, but that was like, hey,
you know, lfg let's you know, and and it was
kind of like a like he was pissed, but he's
also trying to inspire, like, hey, hey, we gotta we
gotta elevate.
Speaker 1 (22:30):
Our our focus and our effort. And and I.
Speaker 4 (22:32):
Think Gino is kind of more of a well this sucks.
We we sucked today this you know, I don't know.
I didn't I didn't get the sense from Gino that
it was the type of of leadership that I would
find ideal. That's that's just kind of my gut from
from watching what I saw.
Speaker 1 (22:51):
I think they both need to raise their game in
that regard.
Speaker 2 (22:53):
Well.
Speaker 3 (22:53):
And and you know, I think Greg Bell mentioned it
today on his show that you know, Gino had plenty
of time and you've been in this situation as the
starting quarterback where how much time normally from the end
of the game until you take the microphone at the
podium thirty minutes, forty five minutes.
Speaker 1 (23:12):
It depends. I don't think I was usually that long.
Speaker 5 (23:15):
No, okay, no, ied, But Greg's point was Gino had
plenty of time to cool off and to kind of
gather his thoughts and maybe be more Geno like at
at the podium.
Speaker 3 (23:30):
I mean Geno's taking the podium after losses before clearly
did last week, the week before, but he was different
today and yesterday. And Greg says, listen, I mean Gino
had time to cool off, but he wanted to He
wanted to be surly. He wanted to be surly to
the media, and he was short that he was curt
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he was you know, he said it was his shortest
by far conversation with the media. And I don't know
if it's a good thing or a bad thing. I
listened to it. I didn't think Gino said anything that
was you know, inappropriate or kind of showed that he,
you know, is being a baby. I don't think it
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really crossed that line. But I do think that DK overall,
I think has probably gotten a little bit better and
Gino has gotten a little bit worse. As far as
their demeanor on the sidelines now DK, I think, you know,
you know my take on on DK. I think he's
got a ways to go maturity wise, and again he
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showed it again last night. I guess he's screaming at
the at thet at his position, coach on the on
the phone and and getting into it.
Speaker 1 (24:41):
I think.
Speaker 3 (24:41):
But part of it is for both of these guys
that it's a totally new system and neither one is comfortable.
It's just like we use the word disjointed last night
in the in the postgame show. It's like Geno's disjointed
with his line. That's just just disjointed with DK. That's
disjointed with Ryan Grubb, that's disjointed with with Mike McDonald.
I mean, it just feels like right now, it's just
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a complete mess and everybody's frustrated.
Speaker 4 (25:05):
Right well, the forty nine ers are the NFC champions,
and they've been arguably over the last five years.
Speaker 1 (25:11):
On the aggregate.
Speaker 4 (25:12):
If you just say, all right, you know, even if
you want to wait it more towards recent you know,
the twenty twenty three is more relevant than twenty nineteen.
However you want to do it that you're going to
you're gonna come up with the conclusion the forty nine
ers have been the best team in the NFC, so
they have an ability to do that to you. I
think for Gino there's some frustration there. He missed some
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balls early, you know, and through interception high Now he
continues to you know, buy and large operate from a
relatively muddy pocket.
Speaker 1 (25:41):
I think that probably wears on him.
Speaker 4 (25:43):
But he he had some bad plays, you know, he's
on national TV, had had some ugly plays.
Speaker 3 (25:49):
And you know, sorry, Hugh, how culpable is he that
he has a muddy pocket because he does hold onto
the ball a long time.
Speaker 4 (25:59):
Yeah, I would generally say, if you're going through this year,
I give him a good grade for his pocket presence.
I think the last couple of weeks that hasn't been
as good. You know, we're going to break down that
interception to DK in a great detail, and and and
his role and and what having where the frustration and
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where they're they're not in sync. But I think he's
been misquoted Gino when he said, look at the tape.
Correct me if I'm wrong, But it's my understanding. They said, hey,
what about the interception? The DK and he said, hey,
I'm the quarterback. You know, bad play. And then the
part where he said watch the tape had to do
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with the play where DK's running scott free in the
second quarter on a double move like breathtaking separation should
be a walk in touchdown, and Gino had to move
off his spot. In an ideal world, he he would,
he couldn't. He couldn't get his into it. In an
adual world, he's capable of throwing it farther and and
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you know DK's running down the scene.
Speaker 1 (27:07):
He did.
Speaker 4 (27:07):
He had a double move on the safety. They got
the coverage. They wanted, the quarters coverage. They want get
the safety to try and nail down on an inbreaking.
Speaker 1 (27:15):
Route and then run right by him.
Speaker 4 (27:16):
I mean, it's everything Grub designed, but then you don't
get the protection. And now people are saying, well, I
couldn't DK make a play. Look, I'm not totally gonna
absolve DK.
Speaker 1 (27:30):
But I think we got to think the nature of
that route. He's trying to accelerate, he's trying to get
that BMW to sixth gear. You're fast as he can
that he wanted that.
Speaker 3 (27:39):
A lot of the fans, including myself, wanted to see
DK come back and fight for the ball.
Speaker 4 (27:43):
Yeah, because I think in our minds, I I think
a lot of fans are thinking, okay, I can remember
other receivers coming back to the ball. Well, a lot
of times that's red zone stuff where you're not running
full speed. This is this is like he's trying to
dupe the safety and then accelerate by I am and
then when he turns back for the ball.
Speaker 1 (28:02):
I think it's I think it takes.
Speaker 4 (28:03):
A little longer to slow down when you're at absolute
maximum speed. It's when you when you're at seven eight speed,
it's you can cut you, you know, you know, it's
it takes half as long to slow down as when
you're in eight eight eight speeds. Like it's the racer
is not equal. Does that make sense? Yes, you think, well,
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if you're running half speed, it'll take half as long.
Speaker 1 (28:26):
No, there's a big difference between.
Speaker 4 (28:28):
That's why being a corner is it's so important, like
like what's your pace because if you turn and open
your hips and you're going full speed to cover, if
that guy runs a comeback on you, he's gonna dust you.
And so you know, they're all over the field there's
differences between seven eights and eight eights, and DK, based
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on that, he is trying to scream down. Now, do
I think that it's possible? Would I like to see
him high point? Yeah, I'm okay to that. I'm not
I'm not gonna just reject that, but I think that
that in our minds, we got to consider the momentum
that he had trying to sprint away on that double
move and haul his ass as fast as he could
and then slowing down. Maybe maybe it's a little bit harder,
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but that's a DK and Gino know that's a freaking
walk in touchdown if they get the protection now in
that moment, maybe maybe DK doesn't know that it was,
you know, the type of pressure that Geno was under,
and all he knows is that, my god, this is
a lay in. Yeah, where's the pass right?
Speaker 1 (29:32):
You know? And and so the frustration, you know, builds.
Speaker 4 (29:36):
And I'm not saying that they they don't both need
to be professionals and and harness and suppress that frustration.
But you know, it's theory in reality, and theory you
should be able to in reality, sometimes it spills over.
Speaker 3 (29:51):
Let's go to some teestimonials coming up next, and then
we'll break down some of those plays you mentioned. We
got to break down the long run by Garndo which
ended the game. We got to break down the Julian
Love misplay. We've got to break down a bunch of stuff.
The interception that you mentioned intended for DK. We'll do
that at five o'clock, but first textimonials coming up next
on ninety three point three KJRFM.
Now from the start.
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four o'clock hour. Let's go Tuttle out of the shotgun
takes a snap. He's gonna drop back to throw. Tuttle
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has tons of time.
Speaker 1 (01:14):
He zips it.
Speaker 4 (01:14):
Hear so picked dove that are set to tempt to
kill it in.
Speaker 1 (01:20):
The sixth year.
Speaker 2 (01:22):
Senior comes up with.
Speaker 4 (01:24):
The interception and this dog defense ump back to back possessions,
comes up with the takeaway to give the dogs the
ball with a.
Speaker 1 (01:33):
Twenty four to seventeen lead.
Speaker 3 (01:36):
Ah, so cool just being in that stadium.
Speaker 1 (01:39):
I mean, it wasn't.
Speaker 3 (01:40):
Quite the vibe that Oregon was last year, but what's
going to beat the vibe that Oregon was last year?
But it was still a great, great time and so
cool to see. As Tony mentioned, they're a sixth year senior,
a guy that has gone through four head coaches and
has decided to stay in the Purple and Gold through
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all of them. Make one of the plays of the
game and one of the plays of the season. I'm
sure we'll be looking back at that pick at the
end of the year and say that was one of
the one of the big plays of the season. But
you know, it doesn't stop in this conference, Hugh. And
I mean that's the one thing about the Big Ten.
I mean, you're gonna have You're gonna have some games
like Northwestern that you can kind of skip your way through,
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but most of them are gonna be hard hitting affairs.
And we're gonna see another game kind of like we
did against Michigan.
Speaker 1 (02:29):
How much does that help, Hugh.
Speaker 3 (02:31):
When you face a team like Michigan and then you
face a similar style team seven days later.
Speaker 1 (02:38):
I think it helps.
Speaker 4 (02:39):
I think that you kind of grooved in, you have
a faith in a belief. Okay, this is how we
play this team. And and you know the you know
the stats that that I really point to here Iowa
yards per pass. Now, they have a veteran quarterback in
Cave mc mcnamary.
Speaker 1 (02:58):
He's a sixth year guy.
Speaker 4 (02:59):
Remember watching him at a high school camp. My son's
first college start was in the Big House, and he
was the starter for Michigan. I've watched this guy for
a long time, and you know here, whether it's the
system every year or whatever, but Iowa four point eight
yards per per pass attempt. That's number one, thirty one
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in the NCAA out of one hundred and thirty two teams. Meanwhile,
the corresponding statistic for Washington also four point eight. These
are mirrored. Four point eight yards per attempt. One's really
good for the Huskies. Their defense, that's number three in
the nation. One's very poor obviously offensively, and so I
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think there's no bigger discrepancy there. You just I you know,
watched them on tape and yeah, they always have good
tight ends, and their tight ends look like they moved
pretty well, but just not a fast football team Iowa.
On either side of the ball. Yeah, there's nobody who
really scares you. I think, uh, you know, even their
running back. They're they're running the ball pretty well. But
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that Caleb Johnson there, they're number one back. I don't know,
there's a lot of toughness there. I think you hit him,
I don't. I don't see a lot of grit with him.
So I think there's some opportunities here, Dick.
Speaker 3 (04:19):
Well, you know what's interesting is The four top running
backs at least by yards in the Pac twelve are
Caleb Johnson number one, the guy we saw two weeks ago,
Kyle man On guy number two in Rutgers, Jonah Coleman,
our own guy number three, and then Khalail Mullings who
we saw last week in Michigan, number four. So, so
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you mentioned the toughness, I mean, how does how does
Caleb Johnson compare to those other three top backs in
the Big ten? One is ours in Jonah Coleman, and
the other two of the ones we just faced in
each of the last two weeks.
Speaker 4 (04:53):
Well, I think he's kind of looking to hit the
big play. And you know they've they're five point seven
yards per rush, tenth in the country, so you have
to respect him. But I think I've seen times on
tape where he he's kind of looking to just absorb hits.
He's not really looking to finish runs. And so I
think if you really have a mindset to hit him,
(05:15):
I think maybe you can. You know, I'm just making inferences,
but I think you can. You can intimidate him a
little bit, just bring that physicality.
Speaker 1 (05:24):
So do you But do you play?
Speaker 3 (05:26):
I'm sorry, go ahead, do you want to know finish? No,
do you play the same? Like, talk to me about
the type of Because I haven't talked to you about
the Husky game. I've talked to you a lot. I've
talked to you a lot about Seawk football this week
and two postgame shows. I haven't talked to you one
word about the about the Husky. So talk about how
they defended a very limited pass game against Michigan last week,
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and how you think they will defend this very limited
passing game.
Speaker 1 (05:52):
Will it be the same.
Speaker 4 (05:54):
Well, I think you throw a variety at you know,
first of all, with the first kid who played for Michigan,
and I mean that's just you know, a gussied up
DK Metcalf. You know, that's just you know, right, I mean,
you know six, you know, you know, just beautiful looking athlete,
but not a quarterback.
Speaker 1 (06:10):
I mean, no anticipation, no accuracy.
Speaker 4 (06:12):
I think they brought in Tuttle and and you know,
I thought they did a nice job of kind of
collapsing the pocket. He had moderate athleticism, certainly not like
the starter, and so I thought that they squeezed the
pocket on him. And then they've got the guys that
can play man to man, they can play a single high.
So I think that they they have some some options
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when it comes to coverages because they feel like they
can man up.
Speaker 1 (06:39):
And certainly when you look at this, I would team
and that.
Speaker 4 (06:43):
You know, again, I think they're they're speed deprived and
so I feel like you can you can play a
grace aggressive. You can sit on on on the shorter
routes because if you if you overplay the shorter routes
and they happen to go deep on you, well, they
don't have that surge to just separate or separated away
from you. You're you could be momentarily on back uh
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off balance as you're anticipating the the shorter throws and
then still be able to respond to the deeper throws.
Speaker 1 (07:11):
Right.
Speaker 4 (07:11):
It's it's kind of like going against a guy who's fat,
you know, a batter that you know the fastball is
only ninety one miles, you know, eighty nine miles an
hour or something. You know, it just gives you more
options as as you try and guess what you're going
to see.
Speaker 1 (07:25):
But yeah, they have the the the.
Speaker 4 (07:30):
The Huskies have the personnel on the perimeter to be
multiple in their looks.
Speaker 3 (07:36):
I made a comment on the on the postgame show
I think was aft. I think it's before the Rutgers
game or not the postgame show, the Husky Hanks Show,
when I was I was hosting for for Mario that day,
and I made the comment that I said, I think
that this Husky defense is as good or maybe even
better than last year's Husky defense, and Softy looked at
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me like I had three eyeballs, and then Greg said, yeah,
I agree with you. And then when you look at
the numbers, now it's only been half a season. Yards
allowed eighth this year, ninety second last year, yards per
play sixth this year, seventy eighth last year, points allowed
eleventh this year, fifty fourth last year, yards per carry
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forty fifth this year, ninety eighth last year, passer rating
third this year, twenty seventh last year, and red zone
sixth this year, eighty fourth last year. Now, are those
numbers telling or you know, is it competition, you know,
not facing good offenses? Is this defense as good or
better than the one that went to the National Championship
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Game last year?
Speaker 4 (08:42):
Yeah, I'd be willing to bite on that, just because
I never really felt like last year's defense was a
dominant defense. I mean, they were paired with an epic offense, right,
so that gave him a lot of latitude there was
that allowed them to play, you know, from with a lead.
A lot of times, the Huskies were controlling, they were
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putting pressure on the opponents because they're scoring a lot
and scoring and so so, I don't know, I just
never felt like they were premier. And you know, they
played well enough to win obviously, but in both the
Oregon games, the Ducks scored over thirty points. In the
semi final game Texas was they were over thirty points?
Speaker 1 (09:24):
Were they not?
Speaker 4 (09:26):
You know, And there's a portion of that first half
of the championship game where they look like they're playing
with eight guys. So there's nothing really that really impressed
me by national Championship standards from that defense.
Speaker 1 (09:40):
So I think it's a little early.
Speaker 4 (09:42):
Let's see what happens tomorrow, play Penn State, you know,
maybe even wait for the you know, I don't know
if we need to wait for the Oregon game, but
I think we need to let the season play out.
But I wouldn't be surprised at all if that's a
valid claim by the end of the year on.
Speaker 1 (09:57):
The offensive side of the ball.
Speaker 3 (09:58):
I think you and I talked about it some point
over the summer, you know, our expectations of Will Rogers,
and I kind of threw out. I was like, hey,
you know, I'm just kind of expecting them to be
Jake Browning, you know, just your solid, veteran college football
quarterback that kind of gets the ball to the right spot,
never going to wow you. And I think he's been
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at least that, if not more than that. What's been
your assessment of the quarterback?
Speaker 4 (10:25):
Yeah, I think that's an apt comparison. I mean, you
go back to a year ago Michael Pennix in terms of.
Speaker 1 (10:32):
The throws twenty yards or more air yards.
Speaker 4 (10:36):
Okay, so the ball is going to be targeted twenty
yards from the sideline or excuse me, the line scrimmage
of more that Michael Pennix was number one in the
NCAA with one hundred and seventeen attempts. Second place was
ninety seven. So the gap between one and two was
equal to the gap between two and eleven. So Pennis
far and away was, you know, the mad bomber right
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at least reflected by that statistic. Well, here you got
in Will Rogers. He's got twenty one attempts thus far.
That's ranked fifty ninth. Twenty one attempts again ball twenty
eight yards or more.
Speaker 1 (11:13):
But his passer rating is three hundred and eleven.
Speaker 4 (11:18):
Now that's if you're if you say, wait a minute,
NFL passer rating isn't one fifty eight point three a
perfect rating?
Speaker 1 (11:24):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (11:25):
So this is what I can say about passer ratings
without getting to geeky.
Speaker 1 (11:29):
They have the.
Speaker 4 (11:30):
Same four components in the NFL and the College, which
are completion percentage, yards per attempt, touchdown percentage, and interception percentage.
The four same components, but they mix it up in
the stew different to kick out different numbers. Right, So
three eleven sounds like an absurd number. Well, it's fourth
in the country. So this is a guy in Rogers
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that that he doesn't have nearly. You know, Pendix has
that beautiful stroke down the field and he can put
it on a line deep down the field and whatever.
Speaker 1 (11:59):
You know.
Speaker 4 (11:59):
He he doesn't have Panix's arm Rogers, but there's something
about his And this is where I talk about the
accuracy has more to do not with mechanics, but with
kind of a right brain. We know, on the left
side of the brain is the analytics side. The right
side of the brain is the creative side, you know,
the artistic side.
Speaker 1 (12:20):
The right side of the brain.
Speaker 4 (12:22):
When you are a good deep ball thrower, you kind
of create your your You say, Okay, I have to
lead the guy way down the field. You know, sometimes
twenty twenty twenty five yards where I'm leading.
Speaker 1 (12:35):
But you got to kind of guess.
Speaker 4 (12:37):
And so when you see a guy like Rogers walking
all these deep balls out there and hitting guys in stride,
I don't think that's a mechanic thing, uh, With with
throwing the ball, I think that's as much and obviously
you've got to have the skill to throw it. But
I think it's a it's a to use an aviation term, vectoring.
Speaker 1 (12:56):
You're vectoring.
Speaker 4 (12:57):
He's saying, Okay, the moving target, I'm gonna throw this football.
It's gonna wait and way down there, it's gonna intersect
my receiver and hit him in full stride. So he
has that innate kind of processing. At least what we've
seen thus far, I mean, three hundred and eleven passer
rating on throws twenty yards or more.
Speaker 1 (13:15):
From line scrimmage.
Speaker 4 (13:16):
I don't think he has a big arm, but those
numbers are hard to dispute. In that regard, there's a
little bit of similarity with Brock Purdy, who doesn't have
a big arm but somehow finds a way to keep
getting completions down the field. And at some point you say, well,
the numbers are outpacing what my eyes tell me with
his physical traits. So you got to dig a little
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bit and say, well, you know, he's probably doing a
pretty good job in the manners that I'm describing, specifically
the vectoring down the field. So I think he's a
threat to really keep defenses on you know. You know,
he's gonna hit a couple of big balls, you know,
and oftentimes that's the difference between winning and losing.
Speaker 3 (13:57):
Well in particular, like you mentioned the lack of athleticism
on this Iowa team, I mean, certainly Iowa's corners and
safeties don't have the athleticism as Michigan's corners in safeties.
They just don't get the same kind of recruits that
Michigan gets. So Giles Jackson and Jeremiah Hunter and Denzel Boston,
I mean, you light up three wide with Jonah Coleman
in the in the back. That's gonna be a load
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for Iowa to try to handle tomorrow.
Speaker 4 (14:20):
Yeah, well that was my first note is oh wow,
team speed not great. And so I think there's a physicality,
there's a you know, a tenacity.
Speaker 1 (14:31):
You know, we're wading into the you know, the the.
Speaker 4 (14:33):
Stereotypes of the typical white guys with the you know,
high energy, you know, uh stuff, but may be limited
in athleticism. And and you know, there's white there's always
seems like there's always white dudes all over the front
seven for Iowa. But you know, I don't know, I
just don't see twitchiness. Yeah, uh from them. And uh
now they they're they're they're coach well and like I said,
they're gonna give you effort and and they're gonna play
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with some physicality. But you don't see that that that
athleticism that sometimes kind of scares you.
Speaker 1 (15:02):
You mentioned twitchiness.
Speaker 3 (15:03):
Demon Williams has got some twitchiness. How do you like
how they're using Demond Williams And do you like the
frequency of how they're using demand Williams.
Speaker 1 (15:12):
Yeah, I'm not a big fan of it.
Speaker 4 (15:14):
You know, it's worked out okay for him, and and
and maybe I'll eat my words next September if he's
playing well, and you say, hey, remember all those those
series that he got all last year, and and and
and he's that much further along. So so I understand
that there's there's trying to be a little bit of
a method to the madness there. But I think as
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it pertains to you know, there's there's times where you
look and say, that's that that has the potential to
upset the apple cart. You know, I think to uh
Will Rogers credit and I mean, I still try and
stay connected to this team, and I keep getting these
laudatory assessments of Will Rogers' leadership, like this guy has
really come in and made an impression, and which is
(15:58):
hard to do when you're following up Michael Hennicks. But
I think, you know, he's been a yeoman and and
been a team guy. But you know, because he's likable,
I think it's natural to have clicks, and uh, it
just it just happens. And you say, okay, well, I'm
a demand guy, I'm a I'm a Will Rogers guy.
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Oh well we're you know are we are? We the
new Huskies? The Old Huskies like there. This is a
ripe Petrie dish for division, and I think when you're winning,
you don't see much of that. But if you have
a few setbacks, then you know, you could get some
grousing about this. So I'm not sold on it. I
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understand that there's some benefits. Everybody's excited about demand, but
it's been a detraction. You could argue that it was
a substantial factor in the Washington State loss when you
consider the end of the second quarter. Uh, you know,
you you throw a screen pass out there to to
Jonah Williams on on third and two, and you only
get one yard because the Cougars know that demon Williams
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doesn't present a passing threat. If that same screen is
thrown by Will Rogers, and the defense has to be
much more concerned about Will Rodgers' ability to throw the
ball down the field. Do I believe that that Will
Rogers gets that screen in that first down and convert
and and maybe you avoid that crippling touchdown late in
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the second quarter by the Cougs. Yeah, I mean all
this stuff has a domino effect, and so I don't
think it was insignificant in the loss. So I don't want,
you know, in a tight game, now all of a sudden,
you upset the cohesion, you upset the momentum because of
the desire to get to Mon Williams. I don't want
to see another loss because of it. So I would
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say I'm not a great fan of it. I'm not
an ardent, like I'm not going to die on a
beach to be a critic about it. I recognize some
of the plus is involved, but I'm a little skeptical
about it.
Speaker 3 (17:59):
If I were to summarize, well, you mentioned leadership, and
I want to get to leadership in the next segment
because the Seahawks right now appear to have a little
bit of a leadership issue with some of their big
name players. And I want to open up the text
line as well for textimonials at four forty five. How
concerned are you about the Seahawks after their three game
(18:21):
losing streak. How concerned are you about the coaching? How
concerned are you about the the leadership? Four nine, four
five one shoot us some texts at the textimonial segment
for four forty five, but we'll get Hughes take on
Geno and DK and just kind of the antics we're
seeing on the sidelines of Gino, you know, hitting himself
in the head with the computer and DK kind of
(18:42):
slumping on the sidelines. We'll talk about that next on
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in Seattle, and we are all hoping that we will
have NBA basketball on a consistent basis here in the
not too distant future. But we're talking football today. Of course,
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middle of October. It's a busy, busy time of the
year for the NFL and college football. And we'll get
back to Seahawks here, Hugh and I, you know, being
at the game like I always am. I miss when
when things happen on the sidelines, like like we had
with you know, Percy Harvin back in the day, you know,
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when he was refusing to go in and you know,
things that you see on TV you don't see when
you're sitting in the stands. And I'm kind of glad
the last couple of weeks that I've actually not watched
some of the antics on the sidelines that they've been
showing on the on the television broadcast, because I really
had no idea when I went to do the postgame
show yesterday and I walk over to Jimmy's I didn't
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know that Geno Smith banged his head with a computer.
And I didn't know that Dk Metcalf was, you know,
slumping in his chair, and that he was screaming at
his coach on the on the telephone and those type
of things, and so and I'm kind of glad I
didn't because I might have focused on him too much
and the h I have a tendency to focus on
things like that a little bit. So I'm glad I
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didn't see those. But what was your take of those
things that you were watching on the sidelines from a
team that you would hopefully see some leadership and two
veterans like Geno Smith and and DK Metcalf that maybe
went lacking last night.
Speaker 4 (20:49):
Well, first of all, let me say I think that
leadership is always used in a positive content connotation. He's
a leader in my experience bouncing around. It's my opinion
that the best players on every team are leaders because
their teammates respect them. DK Metcalf has been voted by
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his peers around the NFL in when they have those
top one hundred vote. For the last five years, he's
been voted the number one player on the Seahawks. There
was only one year where it was Bobby Wagner. And
so he's absolutely a leader, whether it's a positive leader
or it's a negative leader. Now a week ago, I
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did not have a hard time with him when he
closed his eyes because I don't know what's in his
head that he may have been meditated, Like okay, let
me calm down, breathe them through my nose, XL through
my mouth, kind of visualize and get back to the
state I need to be in. So I don't I
don't think eyes closed are necessarily an indictment of where
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a guy's head is. But the slouching is something that
I think is a b is BBL bad body language.
And I think because he is again a leader, I
think he needs to be a positive leader and for
those young guys. They need to see something more from
DK and then Gino these last two weeks, I think uncharacteristically,
I don't think he's handled adversity well, there's a frustration
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there and it hasn't been I mean, I was with
Troy Aikman. He's a feisty dude, but that was like, hey,
you know, lfg let's you know, and and it was
kind of like a like he was pissed, but he's
also trying to inspire, like, hey, hey, we gotta we
gotta elevate.
Speaker 1 (22:30):
Our our focus and our effort. And and I.
Speaker 4 (22:32):
Think Gino is kind of more of a well this sucks.
We we sucked today this you know, I don't know.
I didn't I didn't get the sense from Gino that
it was the type of of leadership that I would
find ideal. That's that's just kind of my gut from
from watching what I saw.
Speaker 1 (22:51):
I think they both need to raise their game in
that regard.
Speaker 2 (22:53):
Well.
Speaker 3 (22:53):
And and you know, I think Greg Bell mentioned it
today on his show that you know, Gino had plenty
of time and you've been in this situation as the
starting quarterback where how much time normally from the end
of the game until you take the microphone at the
podium thirty minutes, forty five minutes.
Speaker 1 (23:12):
It depends. I don't think I was usually that long.
Speaker 5 (23:15):
No, okay, no, ied, But Greg's point was Gino had
plenty of time to cool off and to kind of
gather his thoughts and maybe be more Geno like at
at the podium.
Speaker 3 (23:30):
I mean Geno's taking the podium after losses before clearly
did last week, the week before, but he was different
today and yesterday. And Greg says, listen, I mean Gino
had time to cool off, but he wanted to He
wanted to be surly. He wanted to be surly to
the media, and he was short that he was curt
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he was you know, he said it was his shortest
by far conversation with the media. And I don't know
if it's a good thing or a bad thing. I
listened to it. I didn't think Gino said anything that
was you know, inappropriate or kind of showed that he,
you know, is being a baby. I don't think it
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really crossed that line. But I do think that DK overall,
I think has probably gotten a little bit better and
Gino has gotten a little bit worse. As far as
their demeanor on the sidelines now DK, I think, you know,
you know my take on on DK. I think he's
got a ways to go maturity wise, and again he
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showed it again last night. I guess he's screaming at
the at thet at his position, coach on the on
the phone and and getting into it.
Speaker 1 (24:41):
I think.
Speaker 3 (24:41):
But part of it is for both of these guys
that it's a totally new system and neither one is comfortable.
It's just like we use the word disjointed last night
in the in the postgame show. It's like Geno's disjointed
with his line. That's just just disjointed with DK. That's
disjointed with Ryan Grubb, that's disjointed with with Mike McDonald.
I mean, it just feels like right now, it's just
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a complete mess and everybody's frustrated.
Speaker 4 (25:05):
Right well, the forty nine ers are the NFC champions,
and they've been arguably over the last five years.
Speaker 1 (25:11):
On the aggregate.
Speaker 4 (25:12):
If you just say, all right, you know, even if
you want to wait it more towards recent you know,
the twenty twenty three is more relevant than twenty nineteen.
However you want to do it that you're going to
you're gonna come up with the conclusion the forty nine
ers have been the best team in the NFC, so
they have an ability to do that to you. I
think for Gino there's some frustration there. He missed some
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balls early, you know, and through interception high Now he
continues to you know, buy and large operate from a
relatively muddy pocket.
Speaker 1 (25:41):
I think that probably wears on him.
Speaker 4 (25:43):
But he he had some bad plays, you know, he's
on national TV, had had some ugly plays.
Speaker 3 (25:49):
And you know, sorry, Hugh, how culpable is he that
he has a muddy pocket because he does hold onto
the ball a long time.
Speaker 4 (25:59):
Yeah, I would generally say, if you're going through this year,
I give him a good grade for his pocket presence.
I think the last couple of weeks that hasn't been
as good. You know, we're going to break down that
interception to DK in a great detail, and and and
his role and and what having where the frustration and
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where they're they're not in sync. But I think he's
been misquoted Gino when he said, look at the tape.
Correct me if I'm wrong, But it's my understanding. They said, hey,
what about the interception? The DK and he said, hey,
I'm the quarterback. You know, bad play. And then the
part where he said watch the tape had to do
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with the play where DK's running scott free in the
second quarter on a double move like breathtaking separation should
be a walk in touchdown, and Gino had to move
off his spot. In an ideal world, he he would,
he couldn't. He couldn't get his into it. In an
adual world, he's capable of throwing it farther and and
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you know DK's running down the scene.
Speaker 1 (27:07):
He did.
Speaker 4 (27:07):
He had a double move on the safety. They got
the coverage. They wanted, the quarters coverage. They want get
the safety to try and nail down on an inbreaking.
Speaker 1 (27:15):
Route and then run right by him.
Speaker 4 (27:16):
I mean, it's everything Grub designed, but then you don't
get the protection. And now people are saying, well, I
couldn't DK make a play. Look, I'm not totally gonna
absolve DK.
Speaker 1 (27:30):
But I think we got to think the nature of
that route. He's trying to accelerate, he's trying to get
that BMW to sixth gear. You're fast as he can
that he wanted that.
Speaker 3 (27:39):
A lot of the fans, including myself, wanted to see
DK come back and fight for the ball.
Speaker 4 (27:43):
Yeah, because I think in our minds, I I think
a lot of fans are thinking, okay, I can remember
other receivers coming back to the ball. Well, a lot
of times that's red zone stuff where you're not running
full speed. This is this is like he's trying to
dupe the safety and then accelerate by I am and
then when he turns back for the ball.
Speaker 1 (28:02):
I think it's I think it takes.
Speaker 4 (28:03):
A little longer to slow down when you're at absolute
maximum speed. It's when you when you're at seven eight speed,
it's you can cut you, you know, you know, it's
it takes half as long to slow down as when
you're in eight eight eight speeds. Like it's the racer
is not equal. Does that make sense? Yes, you think, well,
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if you're running half speed, it'll take half as long.
Speaker 1 (28:26):
No, there's a big difference between.
Speaker 4 (28:28):
That's why being a corner is it's so important, like
like what's your pace because if you turn and open
your hips and you're going full speed to cover, if
that guy runs a comeback on you, he's gonna dust you.
And so you know, they're all over the field there's
differences between seven eights and eight eights, and DK, based
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on that, he is trying to scream down. Now, do
I think that it's possible? Would I like to see
him high point? Yeah, I'm okay to that. I'm not
I'm not gonna just reject that, but I think that
that in our minds, we got to consider the momentum
that he had trying to sprint away on that double
move and haul his ass as fast as he could
and then slowing down. Maybe maybe it's a little bit harder,
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but that's a DK and Gino know that's a freaking
walk in touchdown if they get the protection now in
that moment, maybe maybe DK doesn't know that it was,
you know, the type of pressure that Geno was under,
and all he knows is that, my god, this is
a lay in. Yeah, where's the pass right?
Speaker 1 (29:32):
You know? And and so the frustration, you know, builds.
Speaker 4 (29:36):
And I'm not saying that they they don't both need
to be professionals and and harness and suppress that frustration.
But you know, it's theory in reality, and theory you
should be able to in reality, sometimes it spills over.
Speaker 3 (29:51):
Let's go to some teestimonials coming up next, and then
we'll break down some of those plays you mentioned. We
got to break down the long run by Garndo which
ended the game. We got to break down the Julian
Love misplay. We've got to break down a bunch of stuff.
The interception that you mentioned intended for DK. We'll do
that at five o'clock, but first textimonials coming up next
on ninety three point three KJRFM.
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