December 4, 2024 • 28 mins
In the second hour, Dave Softy Mahler and Dick Fain chat with Petros Papadakis about Dan Lanning, the Ducks’ win over UW, flag planting in college football, and signing day, then the guys discuss the Seahawks game against the Cardinals and offensive issues.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
It's time for our weekly conversation with college football analyst
Petros Papa Nikasno.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
That I'm a smart guy, I'm stupid.
Speaker 1 (00:07):
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Speaker 2 (00:23):
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Speaker 1 (00:29):
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Speaker 2 (00:34):
Alrighty, boys and girls, here we go.
Speaker 3 (00:37):
A busy, busy, busy busy did I say?
Speaker 2 (00:38):
Busy?
Speaker 4 (00:38):
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(01:00):
Petros Papadoccus brought to you bye.
Speaker 5 (01:04):
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Speaker 2 (01:08):
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Speaker 4 (01:24):
That's a pretty cool gig being the grand marshall for
a parade.
Speaker 2 (01:28):
Well, they've asked me a few years in a round and.
Speaker 4 (01:34):
I'm laughing because for a guy like you that hates
being around people.
Speaker 2 (01:37):
I mean, it's not far from my house.
Speaker 5 (01:39):
So the guy that was in charge is the father,
the well respected father of a great Peninsula high school linebacker,
Tony Persaquina that I played football with.
Speaker 2 (01:55):
And I couldn't say.
Speaker 5 (01:56):
No to his father, right, And I figured, Wow, it's
so far down the road, who cares?
Speaker 2 (02:00):
And here it is? Well, good for you. It's you
know what, there's one day, One day will come.
Speaker 4 (02:05):
Where you will not be invited or asked to do
things like that, and you'll wonder where.
Speaker 2 (02:10):
The hell is probably next year.
Speaker 4 (02:13):
Hey, by the way, did you happen to watch any
of the UW Oregon game? And did you did you
catch what Dan Landing did in the locker room?
Speaker 2 (02:20):
I did not.
Speaker 5 (02:21):
I was struggling in East Lansing, Michigan, to stay above
the snow because it was the snowiest game I've.
Speaker 2 (02:29):
Ever called out there.
Speaker 5 (02:30):
Oh, Michigan State Rutgers charming place. Was nice to see
Jonathan Smith.
Speaker 2 (02:35):
Do not do.
Speaker 4 (02:42):
You when you Okay, I know you thought of me
when you saw him a little bit.
Speaker 5 (02:47):
Yeah yeah. Anyway, No, I didn't see the game.
Speaker 2 (02:53):
What happened.
Speaker 5 (02:54):
Yeah, I know, I know that you dub had a chance. Right,
they were floating around.
Speaker 3 (02:58):
No, not really, Okay, yeah, we got killed.
Speaker 2 (03:01):
I mean they were in. A young quarterback looked okay, yeah,
he looked at her.
Speaker 3 (03:05):
He got sucked ten times, well, seventeen to twenty.
Speaker 2 (03:09):
But you know, I mean sacking five. Maybe my eyebrows.
Speaker 4 (03:12):
Don't raise, right, damn Well, that's kind of out of control,
don't you think?
Speaker 2 (03:16):
Like ten sacks? Was it because he was running around
like a crazy chicken or part of it?
Speaker 4 (03:21):
Part of it was the offensive line just got overwhelmed, Okay,
yeah by Derek Harmonding company. But then Landing And I
don't know if this was halftime or postgame. Some folks,
I think we're saying it was at halftime. He took
a husky helmet in the locker room. Okay, and took
a sledgehammer to it.
Speaker 2 (03:37):
Did he steal it?
Speaker 3 (03:38):
I don't know where he got it from.
Speaker 2 (03:41):
He must have purchased it. I'm sure he did. Had
one of his minions go get it. Because you can't
steal somebody's helmet. That's not cool.
Speaker 5 (03:48):
You saw what happened to that kid to try to
steal the helmet at the cal Stanford game after the
kids were rushing the field.
Speaker 4 (03:53):
Well god, I mean, there's a lot to talk about
from the last weekend, but I don't know.
Speaker 2 (03:57):
What do you think Jed Fish thinks about Dan Lanning's up.
Speaker 5 (04:00):
I don't feel well. I have a sore throat, my
body ache. I skipped yoga today. I don't feel well.
Speaker 4 (04:09):
I'm not asking you to do a Jetfish impression. If
you want to do it, go ahead.
Speaker 5 (04:13):
Well, my thing is is if you lose the game.
It's a big rivalry game. And coaches are different now.
They're not the salty, old, angry Don James types that
we grew up with, right.
Speaker 2 (04:27):
And they do very demonstrative things.
Speaker 5 (04:30):
They do things that they hope will go viral to
a certain degree to recruit young people.
Speaker 2 (04:36):
That think it's cool.
Speaker 5 (04:37):
And all of that stuff, so it is different. And
to me, if you lose, just get off the field
before anybody recognizes you. It sucks to lose. It's terrible
to lose a football game. It's a terrible feeling to
see some guy you were recruited with or playing with
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or played against in high school waving his junk all
over your face after the game, dancing around, waving a
flag and whatnot. But the thing about football is you
have this great opportunity between the whistles to really manhandle
people and to be as angry and as violent and
as explosively pissed off as you want to be. And
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when the game's over, the game's over. You know, I'd
much rather the guys kneel and say a prayer. And
the great thing about football at the higher levels is
we don't line up like high school and force everybody
to shake hands. If you're pissed off, go ahead and
go up the tunnel and go be in the locker
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room pissed off, and then go see your family and
let it dissipate. This whole thing of fighting over flags
and pitchforks and just staying out there and off. It's
the dumbest thing. It is so galactically stupid to me.
I mean, one day, right, one day, you're gonna want
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to tell your kids or your friends or whatever you're
doing in life.
Speaker 2 (06:10):
Yeah, man, I had three tackles.
Speaker 5 (06:11):
In Michigan, Ohio state or Florida State versus Florida or whatever,
and that's really cool. But after the game, you're sitting
here playing tug of war with a flag like my kids.
Speaker 2 (06:27):
I mean, it looks so stupid.
Speaker 4 (06:30):
So what should just so Jack Sawyer who went up
to the Michigan guy and tried to rip away get
up the you know, look, just let him do it.
Speaker 2 (06:38):
Let him plant the flag off the get up the tunnel. Okay,
so you're telling.
Speaker 4 (06:42):
Me back in the day, back in the day, usc
it happened if okay, tell me we lost to cal.
Speaker 5 (06:49):
I played at cal I knew all of those guys.
I had a hundred yard game and we lost in
overtime or some terrible circumstance. And John Welborne, who was
a guy that I went to high school with, was
running around with a flag, waving around his junk, wiggling
his big fat white ass on the fifty with the
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cow flag.
Speaker 2 (07:11):
What do you do?
Speaker 5 (07:11):
It was absolutely infuriating, but and I have it still
eched in my memory. But we lost the game. That's
that good. And I'm not one for partying on the
field if you win either, but the theatrics of today
or the theatrics of today, my point is, if you're
gonna act like such a hard ass, you should have
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done it during the game. Ohio State, for God's sakes,
And you know me, I don't have a big dog
in the fight Ohio State Michigan.
Speaker 2 (07:38):
I don't care.
Speaker 5 (07:39):
But Ohio State acted so tough before that game. They
lined up on the field and intimidated the Michigan players,
or tried to. When they came out, they got their
ass squarely kicked by a very mediocre team without their
two best players. And then after the game, you want
to have some passionate stations of the Cross on the
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fifty and get pepper spray in all this crap, go.
Speaker 2 (08:05):
Up the tunnel before anybody recognizes you.
Speaker 5 (08:09):
And if they want to smash a helmet, if they
bought it at the Dicks, far and square. Do you
think the guy in Oregon had to go to the
Dicks and get the Washington helmet? And then over to
the home depoty at the Sledgehammer maybe, Well you think
it was one trip or do you think they sent
out two managers? Well, I mean you can probably get
both on Amazon, to be honest with you, right, just
you know, one shot deal.
Speaker 2 (08:30):
I'm sure Landing's got a prime membership, so it probably
came in the.
Speaker 5 (08:33):
Landing's pretty good at the theatrics, although when he said, like,
you know, we talk on the grass, we don't talk,
you know, in the media, it's like, well, you're talking
to the media right now and you don't play on grass. Yeah,
you know. That's but he does have kind of a
knack for this. Some coaches try this kind of stuff
and miss horribly. So I'm sure he's very excited that
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he's won some big games and that he's over the
hump and no one's calling him out for being inact
down the bretch where you have to make tough decisions.
That was the that was the knock on him before
this year, right, So good for them. Well, you know
I thought they were gonna lose because they dressed up
like the Raiders. Yeah they did well.
Speaker 2 (09:11):
They I don't even know what their colors are anymore.
But whatever.
Speaker 3 (09:13):
They don't give a damn Uncle Field doesn't give it.
Speaker 2 (09:16):
Damn.
Speaker 4 (09:16):
They just had a great recruiting class. They got a
bunch of five star guys, all that stuff.
Speaker 5 (09:20):
And it's a bad thing for SC two And it's
definitely not good for Washington because they flipped the script.
But and it's because Debor's gone. But what are you
talking about?
Speaker 2 (09:30):
Jen?
Speaker 4 (09:31):
Jen just signed like thirty guys and had the number
twenty three class in the country.
Speaker 3 (09:35):
Yeah, but what I'm saying, it's pretty good.
Speaker 5 (09:37):
Here's the problem. Jed, Jed is not. Jed is not
a offensive line builder, is he? Maybe he is if
he proves to be all to eat my words, But
my thing is us he has been dominant for generations
of football throughout the years because of the offensive line
people and defensive line really that they can recruit locally
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and develop here and compete nationally. That has always been
the case, and that's why USC football became and is
a blue blood. And they haven't been doing that really
since two thousand and eight. And the offensive linemen that
are great are not going there anymore. They are going
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to Oregon, They're going to Washington, or they were, And
there's a reason Organ's undefeated, and it's not because of
some running back or a quarterback from Oklahoma with a
pop gun arm.
Speaker 3 (10:39):
So you'll do that, but not the fish impression.
Speaker 2 (10:41):
It's because of their line. What do you say, I
can develop line.
Speaker 6 (10:48):
There?
Speaker 2 (10:48):
It is all right there, it is.
Speaker 4 (10:51):
Well, they got the Big Ten championship on Saturday, and
there's some folks who think that maybe Oregon's better off
just kind of.
Speaker 2 (10:56):
Losing the game and kicking one. Well, I mean that's
kind of the thing.
Speaker 5 (11:00):
It's like, the championship games are going to become obsolete,
but the TV companies control it and they're gonna have
to fight, yeah, for the championship games.
Speaker 4 (11:08):
It's I mean, does anybody really care about the like
I'm Petrick, Well, I mean just only the playoff implications.
Speaker 5 (11:14):
And look, the playoff thing is so screwed up because
the committee is so screwed up. And we don't need
a committee. We need uniformity and we need everybody to
play the same amount of conference games and no cupcake
Week in November and all that, and we need to
not have like a media arm propaganda machine for the SEC.
But we're not going to have that because they own
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the freaking playoff too, That's right, So we just can
sit here and piss in the wind.
Speaker 4 (11:41):
I guess, well, did the committee you know, like I know,
Miami's mad that Alabama is ranked ahead of them, you know,
Ohio State.
Speaker 5 (11:49):
We shouldn't need a committee to tell us these things.
We should have some uniformity. So there's really no argument.
What's the point of having a real playoff if we
don't have a real way.
Speaker 2 (11:58):
To get in the playoffs?
Speaker 4 (11:59):
Well, there is an argument until then, I'm saying, did
they get the ratings or the rankings that came out yesterday, Like,
does Kaitlin de Born Alabama.
Speaker 2 (12:07):
At nine and three deserve to be in the playoff? No, okay,
I'm just asking.
Speaker 5 (12:13):
Man, I'm just brand oriented, and that's not supposed to matter.
It really isn't.
Speaker 4 (12:17):
Yeah, well I think it does. I think it does,
no question it does. And I think there's been folks
that have actually admitted that that. Until you know, you get,
like you said, some uniformity, and you when the conference
you're in second place in this conference, you're in like
they do in the NFL. Whatever tie breakers, blah blah blah,
it's always gonna matter. But dude, I got to ask
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you though about siding day, because we did have some
conversations off the year between me and Jackson and Dick
and our daily show meeting. Oh yeah yeah, prep yeah,
prep zone Yeah, right about how important today is. And
I used to get crazy about today. Let's get players on,
let's get coaches on. Right, you do the show from
from you dub Yeah?
Speaker 2 (12:59):
Right? Now a different thing.
Speaker 5 (13:01):
Well, now there's two signing days and two portals, right,
and none of it means anything. And I don't want
to be on my knees in the mock sifting through
the sea moss to see what's what or who's going where.
I really don't, so I'm not even paying much attention
to it anymore.
Speaker 4 (13:19):
Yeah, And I think a lot of people feel that way, that, hey,
how many of these guys are going to stay, how
many of them will be gone after a year, how
many of my other thing is like portal players that
will be here in a couple of weeks or whatever.
Speaker 3 (13:32):
I'm tired of.
Speaker 5 (13:33):
Like the five paragraphs you expect me to read when
you transfer on your Twitter post or whatever.
Speaker 2 (13:39):
Me, No, just whoever transferring? Right now? They put these
screenshots up of notes.
Speaker 5 (13:46):
And to this person and to that person, and I'm
eternally grateful, and please respect my just say, you're transferring
just nobody cares anymore, but the with the inspirational picture
of your face up close, and then you playing in
the uniform like no, okay, no nobody cares. You're a
(14:06):
football mercenary just like the rest of us. That's right,
shut your hole and go play it freaking wyoming.
Speaker 4 (14:13):
My favorite is when they write these big, long notes
but how much they love the school, and then at
the very very end with that, I'm in the portal.
Speaker 2 (14:24):
Please respect my decision.
Speaker 4 (14:26):
Well, I saw where Lincoln Riley did. Is Central Florida
going after Lincoln Riley? What the hell is do you
believe that? I don't know what to believe? Man, I
know Jen would love to have that, don't you think?
Speaker 2 (14:38):
Are you kidding me? Hey? That's fine.
Speaker 5 (14:40):
I mean you'd want to ask yourself why the story
is out right? Is Lincoln trying through his agent to
show his desirability or flex a muscle? Does UCF really
want him? I know USC doesn't. Usc fans are thinking
is this a way out?
Speaker 2 (15:00):
And it's not.
Speaker 5 (15:00):
He's in year three of a ten year, ten million
dollar deal with a huge buyout, and I think his
agent or somebody, I mean, Feldman has gotten in line
with this and all of the coaching carousel clowns, and
I think they're trying to drum up some interest and
be like, see see people want Lincoln, see Cecee. But
(15:23):
I mean, I don't think USC is going to get
out of this that easily, do you. It is going
to cost According to the Athletic article today, it's going
to cost ninety million to get ridily correctly, Yes, and
I thought it was that's twenty million more than I thought.
I thought it was seventieth night. I told you it
was ninety one. Yeah, so there you go. Yeah, Okay,
(15:44):
you're right. You want to go do a lap with
your doubt, Like, really, I know it's cold up there.
Speaker 4 (15:50):
I just don't know why you just don't trust me
when I tell you, oh, I don't know. You're talking
about whether or not Lebron should be sitting during the
NBA Cup. Well, that one got by me too, Like
when did Lebron make his like weird manifest destiny proclamation
that he wasn't gonna he was gonna play in every
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single game I don't know, and he wasn't gonna set out,
Like when did that happen?
Speaker 2 (16:15):
I was surprised too to hear that.
Speaker 5 (16:16):
Yeah, you know, they're like, oh, he's gonna play in
ALL eighty two and that's a jeopardy now because he's
oh for fifty in the last. It's like, what when
did he say he was gonna play ALL eighty two?
Did I miss something?
Speaker 2 (16:25):
I don't. I don't work in LA, so I don't
need to, you know, watch things like.
Speaker 5 (16:29):
Well, I don't know. I missed it too. I don't
watch anything. I didn't watch the Organ game. I don't
know about Lebron. I don't know about anything.
Speaker 2 (16:35):
But he makes it.
Speaker 4 (16:35):
He's got an uncannyability man, even when there's nothing going on,
to make it all about him.
Speaker 2 (16:40):
And he's done it again. Oh in his media company
that everybody tried to stroke for years.
Speaker 5 (16:45):
You know, he's a media mobile. He's not just they've
never made money. It's never made money, according to Bloomberg,
and they are thirty million dollars in debt.
Speaker 2 (16:56):
Stick to basketball. Oh you're not supposed to say that.
Shut up and dribble.
Speaker 4 (17:00):
Oh oh god, all right, hey, listen, we're here not
you're not feeling great?
Speaker 2 (17:09):
Get better at up? What do you mean?
Speaker 4 (17:11):
I'm trying to express some sympathy for you. Why do
you take a day off and enjoy rest?
Speaker 2 (17:18):
Up? They won't miss you that bad if you skip
a show very important that I do sports talk radio.
All right, go get him, cowboy.
Speaker 5 (17:29):
What would become of the world if I wasn't there
to tell everybody what's going on?
Speaker 4 (17:33):
How long would you have to be gone for before
people really got concerned? Like a Ferris Bueller type situation?
Speaker 2 (17:39):
Three minutes? Oh really? People know that I'm very volatile.
You're that important. Uh, I'm that explosive? All right?
Speaker 4 (17:49):
Sucking easy, Softy, see you man, bet Tros Papa Douca
is with us. We're gonna break Kevin Harlan's coming up
at five right here on ninety three to three KJRFMMU.
Speaker 1 (17:59):
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Speaker 4 (18:12):
I was telling Dick off the air, Jackson, we got
a pretty big Seahawk game that nobody's talking about.
Speaker 2 (18:17):
Oh yeah, we do, right, I mean it kind of
feels like, eh, you know, Arizona. I mean, it's a
huge game.
Speaker 4 (18:22):
I mean, the Hawks can like put the freaking nail
on the coffin for the Cardinals.
Speaker 2 (18:26):
If they win this thing on Sunday.
Speaker 3 (18:27):
It would have basically a three game That's right, correct.
Speaker 4 (18:30):
And I don't know, man, the last time we saw
Kyler Murray play was two weeks ago, and I was
kind of with Mike. I was disappointed and the way
he played ill that he looked terrible against the Seahawks.
Speaker 2 (18:39):
And I don't know if it was just the.
Speaker 4 (18:41):
Way the line played that day, or the play calling
or the Seahawk defense or whatever.
Speaker 2 (18:45):
But I mean, if we go down there to.
Speaker 4 (18:47):
Arizona and there's gonna be a lot of Seahawks fans there,
There always are in those games they play in that stadium,
and I know weird stuff happens down there. But I mean,
maybe I'm gonna eat my words on Sunday night. But
I'm not afraid of Kyler Murray at all, right now,
are you guys? No, not at all.
Speaker 7 (19:01):
But on the flip side, why should Arizona be afraid
of two thirds of our football team? I mean they're
looking at our football team saying they scored sixteen points
against us, and they just coughed up every possible ball
to the Jets and didn't win, Like there is nothing
about the Seahawks offense or special.
Speaker 4 (19:19):
Team they did win. Yes, he said they didn't win. No,
they they and they still were said they right. So,
But isn't that a better sign for the Hawks that
all that happened last week in a win? Like, what
are the odds of that happening twice in a row?
The Seahawks having those problems on special teams, like, you know,
they spent extra time on that this week they surprise
would you be if they came out again and looked
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that inept on special teams again?
Speaker 3 (19:43):
Well, this is about the third time we've seen it
this year. Remember the fumble?
Speaker 7 (19:46):
Was it the Giants game where it just seemed like
every kickoff was muffed and picked up? Again we had
we had two return men crashing into each other at
the goal. This is not the first time this has
happened this year.
Speaker 4 (19:58):
Yeah, but that was something different than that was a
higher level of stupidity.
Speaker 3 (20:01):
That was five I mean, Dick, we talked about this.
Speaker 4 (20:05):
It was five consecutive kickoffs where either them kicking off
or the Seahawks kicking off and they just could not
get out of their own way, block pats, all that stuff.
So I expect it to be a lot better. I
think it will be a lot better. And you say,
why should they be afraid of the Hawks because the
last time they played Mike McDonald they scored six points?
Speaker 2 (20:22):
Noice story.
Speaker 7 (20:22):
Should they be afraid of the Hawks offense especially? I
don't think they should be afraid of the special teams.
I think they should be afraid of the defense.
Speaker 4 (20:29):
And I think again, if Mike McDonald's defense is really clicking,
then they likely will have another game where the Cardinals
will be in the teams scoring wise.
Speaker 6 (20:37):
Did you guys see the percentages of like playoff percentages?
Speaker 2 (20:40):
Yes, leave the swing is unbelievable.
Speaker 3 (20:44):
It's a big swing of any team in the NFL.
Speaker 6 (20:46):
If the Seahawks win, they're apparently sixty six percent to
make the playoffs, seventy one either way, it's ridiculously high
to make the playoffs. And then a win division is
not much lower than that Arizona with a loss twelve
and ten percent. But meanwhile, if the Cardinals win and
the Seahawks lose. The percentage for Seattle making the playoffs
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goes from like sixty six to twenty two, and the
Cardinals goes from twelve to fifty four. I mean, this
is a game where the swing is as big as
it will be all year.
Speaker 4 (21:17):
My model shows seventy one percent. By the way, there
we go, my my samples.
Speaker 2 (21:21):
I believe it.
Speaker 3 (21:21):
Yeah, and I'm using the same logic.
Speaker 7 (21:25):
I am using the exact same logic to pick this
game as I used to pick the game two weeks
agoing against the Cardinals. Do you remember why logic was two
weeks ago? I said, wait a second. The Seahawks have
lost four home games in a row. The Cardinals have
won four games overall in a row. Those two streaks
need to stop and should stop so now. And they did. Well,
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let's take a look. Now, Hawks have won three in
a row. The Cardinals have lost too in a row,
including to the Seahawks.
Speaker 3 (21:56):
Give me Arizona minus two and a half game, all right,
Well take him in factor of facial might list.
Speaker 2 (22:02):
Yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 4 (22:03):
I just think that the Seahawks were so bad offensively
in certain areas on Sunday, their special teams were so
bad in certain areas on Sunday that I just got
to think that the Cardinals are getting them at a
bad time. In that regard, they may not be getting
him at a bad time for the defense, because the
defense is doue to have a clunker right at some
point in time.
Speaker 2 (22:21):
I don't know if this is the team to have
the clunker against.
Speaker 4 (22:23):
It may come against Green Bay, right, it may come
against Minnesota, who knows, maybe it happens at Chicago, right.
But I just feel like I really like playing teams
and playing games where I feel like my team didn't
play very well and they still won the game.
Speaker 3 (22:37):
And they didn't play very well and they still won
the game.
Speaker 4 (22:39):
I mean, their defense was marvelous last Sunday against the Jets.
Kyler Murray again, I I just looked at him and
I was so underwhelmed.
Speaker 2 (22:47):
Man.
Speaker 4 (22:47):
And I don't know if he was banged up or
what the hell was going on that game, But I thought,
you know, people could tell me that, well, Kyler Murray's
greatly improved. Look at the way he's playing, and I
guess the numbers show that that he's improved. But I
didn't see that last Sunday or two sundays ago, I
saw kind of the same more of the same guy
that we've seen so far in the NFL.
Speaker 3 (23:05):
There's no question. I'm just looking.
Speaker 7 (23:07):
I don't know, I'm just looking at these offensive numbers,
and and I'm seeing how many points did the offense
score against the Jets.
Speaker 4 (23:15):
Nineteen to them twenty? I believe, yeah, oh thanks to
the Jets.
Speaker 7 (23:20):
How much basically how much I'm looking in the last
few games, how many points has our offense actually earned?
Speaker 3 (23:26):
Right in these games?
Speaker 4 (23:27):
Well, Letter Williams had the pick six, Kobe Bryant had
the pick six, and they missed the extra point got blocked, right,
so they scored twenty points on their own. Okay, they
had twenty points on I think it was like eight
drives outside of the ones that were all messed up
with the kickoffs, which actually I think points per drive
was pretty good. I saw the field goals guys tweeting
about that over the weekend. But I just believe that, yes,
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they they've got to start doing more on offense.
Speaker 7 (23:50):
Because the Arizona game, they earned nine points, right because
they got an interception for a touchdown.
Speaker 2 (23:55):
Right.
Speaker 7 (23:55):
The forty nine Ers game did they earn all twenty
of their points in the forty nine ers game. I'm
trying to They had a field goal, they had a
field goal, they had a one yard run, leven play,
seventy yard drive, and leven play eighty ups, so you
did all twenty. So it's twenty good against the NINERSCO
twenty is well, I mean, I don't know about anymore.
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I mean, so twenty points really for the last one, two, three,
four five games has been the absolute most your offense
has been able to score. And now you're going up
against an Arizonis team. If they scored nine points against
the last time.
Speaker 4 (24:32):
Yeah, which which I again, I think they'll do more.
If they score twenty, they're gonna win the game. If
a Seahawks scored twenty points on offense, they're gonna win
the game on Sunday. And I again, I just unless
we just absolutely feel that the offense is broken, like
beyond repair, then at some point they're gonna.
Speaker 3 (24:48):
Have a game.
Speaker 4 (24:49):
Right, at some point they're gonna erupt, But I don't
know what erupting by their standards means. It might be
twenty four points, but at some point they're gonna step
up at some point the defense will take a step back,
and at some point the offense will take a step
There's too.
Speaker 6 (25:00):
Much say, there's too much skill and there's too many
good players on this offense. Kenny Walker, Jackson's withinn Jigba,
who's like, he's like, what ninth in the NFL and
receiving yards this year? There's too much talent for them
not to have, you know, a few games down the
stretch here where they get twenty four plus points.
Speaker 7 (25:17):
I'm shocked at this number. Why is it forty four
and a half the total? Yeah, that seems high. Why
is it forty four and a half. I think it
should be like forty and a half because, like you said,
I mean, twenty should win it.
Speaker 4 (25:27):
Do you know where the Seahawks are in touchdown percentage
in the red zone right now?
Speaker 6 (25:32):
Oh, you asked me this, that's right.
Speaker 2 (25:33):
Where do you think they are? Thirtieth? They are twelfth
in the NFL?
Speaker 3 (25:36):
I said twenty fifty.
Speaker 2 (25:38):
Yeah, right, twelfth in the NFL.
Speaker 4 (25:40):
Baltimore, Cincinna, Chicago, Tampa, Buffalo, the Lions, the Commanders, the Browns,
the Saints, Denver, Miami, and US number twelve in touchdown
percentage now they're down from where they were last year.
Speaker 2 (25:50):
Actually though they're up.
Speaker 4 (25:51):
Sorry, they were forty eight point one now they're fifty
six point six percent. That doesn't make any sense because
the red zone. Every time we see them in the
red zone, we expect something bad to happen right right
every single time. But they're fifty six percent now. Maybe
some of that is due to early in the year
at the Lion game.
Speaker 2 (26:08):
Whatever.
Speaker 3 (26:09):
I got no idea to go back and check it out.
But if they.
Speaker 4 (26:12):
Could just find a way to clean up the red
zone problems that they're having, for as good as they
apparently are already in the red zone, it would just
be one extra touchdown a week, right, ten extra point two,
extra scoring drives, whatever, would make everything just feel so
much different. So I think they're going to bust out
a little bit this weekend against Arizona. But I'm also
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kind of, like you, maybe a tad fearful that this
defense can't keep this pace up.
Speaker 7 (26:37):
The one thing I was thinking when we were running
play after play after play after play from inside the
three yard line and unable to score, I had some flashbacks.
Speaker 3 (26:44):
Correct me if I'm wrong.
Speaker 7 (26:46):
Did we not say frequently in twenty two and twenty
three with the Washington Huskies. Why the hell can we
drive from five yard line to five yard line and
we can't punch the ball in inside the five? Didn't
we not have those issues with the particularly two years ago?
Speaker 2 (27:02):
Absolutely?
Speaker 4 (27:03):
So maybe this is a Grubbish, could be could be
a Ryan Grubb Brob, no doubt.
Speaker 3 (27:06):
Maybe he's calling the wrong plays. I mean, I don't know.
Speaker 4 (27:08):
I just look at the formations they were in on Sunday,
And if you would have told me before, Okay, I
got the numbers right in front of me here right,
I had all those plays written down. I gonna go
back and look for him for crying out lock because
they ran eight plays right that they could have kept.
They had a couple that were called back due to penalties.
They had first and goal from the four, and they
threw the ball to DK Metcalf, Then they ran Kenny Walker.
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Then they had a defensive pass interference against DK. Then
he's under center, he's under center, he's under center, he's
under center, and he's under center. In three of those plays,
they had a blocking back in for either Sharboney or
Kenny Walker. So if I told you before the ball
was snapped, here's what we're gonna do. We're gonna get
Gino Smith under center. We're gonna have this Barner Kid
(27:53):
and Sundell come in as lead blockers for Kenny Walker
and Zach Sharburney. We're gonna just run now, we're gonna
jam it up their ass. He would have said, great, let's.
Speaker 2 (28:02):
Go, and it didn't work. No, it didn't work.
Speaker 4 (28:05):
So I mean, is this a play calling problem or
is this an execution a simple execution problem by these players,
Because I think it's fair to be critical of Grub
for some of those calls, but not all of them,
not all of them for sure. All right, we're gonna
break textimonials. And then Kevin Harlan joins a five on
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Speaker 4 (01:24):
That's a pretty cool gig being the grand marshall for
a parade.
Speaker 2 (01:28):
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Speaker 4 (01:34):
I'm laughing because for a guy like you that hates
being around people.
Speaker 2 (01:37):
I mean, it's not far from my house.
Speaker 5 (01:39):
So the guy that was in charge is the father,
the well respected father of a great Peninsula high school linebacker,
Tony Persaquina that I played football with.
Speaker 2 (01:55):
And I couldn't say.
Speaker 5 (01:56):
No to his father, right, And I figured, Wow, it's
so far down the road, who cares?
Speaker 2 (02:00):
And here it is? Well, good for you. It's you
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Speaker 4 (02:05):
Where you will not be invited or asked to do
things like that, and you'll wonder where.
Speaker 2 (02:10):
The hell is probably next year.
Speaker 4 (02:13):
Hey, by the way, did you happen to watch any
of the UW Oregon game? And did you did you
catch what Dan Landing did in the locker room?
Speaker 2 (02:20):
I did not.
Speaker 5 (02:21):
I was struggling in East Lansing, Michigan, to stay above
the snow because it was the snowiest game I've.
Speaker 2 (02:29):
Ever called out there.
Speaker 5 (02:30):
Oh, Michigan State Rutgers charming place. Was nice to see
Jonathan Smith.
Speaker 2 (02:35):
Do not do.
Speaker 4 (02:42):
You when you Okay, I know you thought of me
when you saw him a little bit.
Speaker 5 (02:47):
Yeah yeah. Anyway, No, I didn't see the game.
Speaker 2 (02:53):
What happened.
Speaker 5 (02:54):
Yeah, I know, I know that you dub had a chance. Right,
they were floating around.
Speaker 3 (02:58):
No, not really, Okay, yeah, we got killed.
Speaker 2 (03:01):
I mean they were in. A young quarterback looked okay, yeah,
he looked at her.
Speaker 3 (03:05):
He got sucked ten times, well, seventeen to twenty.
Speaker 2 (03:09):
But you know, I mean sacking five. Maybe my eyebrows.
Speaker 4 (03:12):
Don't raise, right, damn Well, that's kind of out of control,
don't you think?
Speaker 2 (03:16):
Like ten sacks? Was it because he was running around
like a crazy chicken or part of it?
Speaker 4 (03:21):
Part of it was the offensive line just got overwhelmed, Okay,
yeah by Derek Harmonding company. But then Landing And I
don't know if this was halftime or postgame. Some folks,
I think we're saying it was at halftime. He took
a husky helmet in the locker room. Okay, and took
a sledgehammer to it.
Speaker 2 (03:37):
Did he steal it?
Speaker 3 (03:38):
I don't know where he got it from.
Speaker 2 (03:41):
He must have purchased it. I'm sure he did. Had
one of his minions go get it. Because you can't
steal somebody's helmet. That's not cool.
Speaker 5 (03:48):
You saw what happened to that kid to try to
steal the helmet at the cal Stanford game after the
kids were rushing the field.
Speaker 4 (03:53):
Well god, I mean, there's a lot to talk about
from the last weekend, but I don't know.
Speaker 2 (03:57):
What do you think Jed Fish thinks about Dan Lanning's up.
Speaker 5 (04:00):
I don't feel well. I have a sore throat, my
body ache. I skipped yoga today. I don't feel well.
Speaker 4 (04:09):
I'm not asking you to do a Jetfish impression. If
you want to do it, go ahead.
Speaker 5 (04:13):
Well, my thing is is if you lose the game.
It's a big rivalry game. And coaches are different now.
They're not the salty, old, angry Don James types that
we grew up with, right.
Speaker 2 (04:27):
And they do very demonstrative things.
Speaker 5 (04:30):
They do things that they hope will go viral to
a certain degree to recruit young people.
Speaker 2 (04:36):
That think it's cool.
Speaker 5 (04:37):
And all of that stuff, so it is different. And
to me, if you lose, just get off the field
before anybody recognizes you. It sucks to lose. It's terrible
to lose a football game. It's a terrible feeling to
see some guy you were recruited with or playing with
(04:58):
or played against in high school waving his junk all
over your face after the game, dancing around, waving a
flag and whatnot. But the thing about football is you
have this great opportunity between the whistles to really manhandle
people and to be as angry and as violent and
as explosively pissed off as you want to be. And
(05:22):
when the game's over, the game's over. You know, I'd
much rather the guys kneel and say a prayer. And
the great thing about football at the higher levels is
we don't line up like high school and force everybody
to shake hands. If you're pissed off, go ahead and
go up the tunnel and go be in the locker
(05:42):
room pissed off, and then go see your family and
let it dissipate. This whole thing of fighting over flags
and pitchforks and just staying out there and off. It's
the dumbest thing. It is so galactically stupid to me.
I mean, one day, right, one day, you're gonna want
(06:05):
to tell your kids or your friends or whatever you're
doing in life.
Speaker 2 (06:10):
Yeah, man, I had three tackles.
Speaker 5 (06:11):
In Michigan, Ohio state or Florida State versus Florida or whatever,
and that's really cool. But after the game, you're sitting
here playing tug of war with a flag like my kids.
Speaker 2 (06:27):
I mean, it looks so stupid.
Speaker 4 (06:30):
So what should just so Jack Sawyer who went up
to the Michigan guy and tried to rip away get
up the you know, look, just let him do it.
Speaker 2 (06:38):
Let him plant the flag off the get up the tunnel. Okay,
so you're telling.
Speaker 4 (06:42):
Me back in the day, back in the day, usc
it happened if okay, tell me we lost to cal.
Speaker 5 (06:49):
I played at cal I knew all of those guys.
I had a hundred yard game and we lost in
overtime or some terrible circumstance. And John Welborne, who was
a guy that I went to high school with, was
running around with a flag, waving around his junk, wiggling
his big fat white ass on the fifty with the
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cow flag.
Speaker 2 (07:11):
What do you do?
Speaker 5 (07:11):
It was absolutely infuriating, but and I have it still
eched in my memory. But we lost the game. That's
that good. And I'm not one for partying on the
field if you win either, but the theatrics of today
or the theatrics of today, my point is, if you're
gonna act like such a hard ass, you should have
(07:31):
done it during the game. Ohio State, for God's sakes,
And you know me, I don't have a big dog
in the fight Ohio State Michigan.
Speaker 2 (07:38):
I don't care.
Speaker 5 (07:39):
But Ohio State acted so tough before that game. They
lined up on the field and intimidated the Michigan players,
or tried to. When they came out, they got their
ass squarely kicked by a very mediocre team without their
two best players. And then after the game, you want
to have some passionate stations of the Cross on the
(08:02):
fifty and get pepper spray in all this crap, go.
Speaker 2 (08:05):
Up the tunnel before anybody recognizes you.
Speaker 5 (08:09):
And if they want to smash a helmet, if they
bought it at the Dicks, far and square. Do you
think the guy in Oregon had to go to the
Dicks and get the Washington helmet? And then over to
the home depoty at the Sledgehammer maybe, Well you think
it was one trip or do you think they sent
out two managers? Well, I mean you can probably get
both on Amazon, to be honest with you, right, just
you know, one shot deal.
Speaker 2 (08:30):
I'm sure Landing's got a prime membership, so it probably
came in the.
Speaker 5 (08:33):
Landing's pretty good at the theatrics, although when he said, like,
you know, we talk on the grass, we don't talk,
you know, in the media, it's like, well, you're talking
to the media right now and you don't play on grass. Yeah,
you know. That's but he does have kind of a
knack for this. Some coaches try this kind of stuff
and miss horribly. So I'm sure he's very excited that
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he's won some big games and that he's over the
hump and no one's calling him out for being inact
down the bretch where you have to make tough decisions.
That was the that was the knock on him before
this year, right, So good for them. Well, you know
I thought they were gonna lose because they dressed up
like the Raiders. Yeah they did well.
Speaker 2 (09:11):
They I don't even know what their colors are anymore.
But whatever.
Speaker 3 (09:13):
They don't give a damn Uncle Field doesn't give it.
Speaker 2 (09:16):
Damn.
Speaker 4 (09:16):
They just had a great recruiting class. They got a
bunch of five star guys, all that stuff.
Speaker 5 (09:20):
And it's a bad thing for SC two And it's
definitely not good for Washington because they flipped the script.
But and it's because Debor's gone. But what are you
talking about?
Speaker 2 (09:30):
Jen?
Speaker 4 (09:31):
Jen just signed like thirty guys and had the number
twenty three class in the country.
Speaker 3 (09:35):
Yeah, but what I'm saying, it's pretty good.
Speaker 5 (09:37):
Here's the problem. Jed, Jed is not. Jed is not
a offensive line builder, is he? Maybe he is if
he proves to be all to eat my words, But
my thing is us he has been dominant for generations
of football throughout the years because of the offensive line
people and defensive line really that they can recruit locally
(10:00):
and develop here and compete nationally. That has always been
the case, and that's why USC football became and is
a blue blood. And they haven't been doing that really
since two thousand and eight. And the offensive linemen that
are great are not going there anymore. They are going
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to Oregon, They're going to Washington, or they were, And
there's a reason Organ's undefeated, and it's not because of
some running back or a quarterback from Oklahoma with a
pop gun arm.
Speaker 3 (10:39):
So you'll do that, but not the fish impression.
Speaker 2 (10:41):
It's because of their line. What do you say, I
can develop line.
Speaker 6 (10:48):
There?
Speaker 2 (10:48):
It is all right there, it is.
Speaker 4 (10:51):
Well, they got the Big Ten championship on Saturday, and
there's some folks who think that maybe Oregon's better off
just kind of.
Speaker 2 (10:56):
Losing the game and kicking one. Well, I mean that's
kind of the thing.
Speaker 5 (11:00):
It's like, the championship games are going to become obsolete,
but the TV companies control it and they're gonna have
to fight, yeah, for the championship games.
Speaker 4 (11:08):
It's I mean, does anybody really care about the like
I'm Petrick, Well, I mean just only the playoff implications.
Speaker 5 (11:14):
And look, the playoff thing is so screwed up because
the committee is so screwed up. And we don't need
a committee. We need uniformity and we need everybody to
play the same amount of conference games and no cupcake
Week in November and all that, and we need to
not have like a media arm propaganda machine for the SEC.
But we're not going to have that because they own
(11:36):
the freaking playoff too, That's right, So we just can
sit here and piss in the wind.
Speaker 4 (11:41):
I guess, well, did the committee you know, like I know,
Miami's mad that Alabama is ranked ahead of them, you know,
Ohio State.
Speaker 5 (11:49):
We shouldn't need a committee to tell us these things.
We should have some uniformity. So there's really no argument.
What's the point of having a real playoff if we
don't have a real way.
Speaker 2 (11:58):
To get in the playoffs?
Speaker 4 (11:59):
Well, there is an argument until then, I'm saying, did
they get the ratings or the rankings that came out yesterday, Like,
does Kaitlin de Born Alabama.
Speaker 2 (12:07):
At nine and three deserve to be in the playoff? No, okay,
I'm just asking.
Speaker 5 (12:13):
Man, I'm just brand oriented, and that's not supposed to matter.
It really isn't.
Speaker 4 (12:17):
Yeah, well I think it does. I think it does,
no question it does. And I think there's been folks
that have actually admitted that that. Until you know, you get,
like you said, some uniformity, and you when the conference
you're in second place in this conference, you're in like
they do in the NFL. Whatever tie breakers, blah blah blah,
it's always gonna matter. But dude, I got to ask
(12:39):
you though about siding day, because we did have some
conversations off the year between me and Jackson and Dick
and our daily show meeting. Oh yeah yeah, prep yeah,
prep zone Yeah, right about how important today is. And
I used to get crazy about today. Let's get players on,
let's get coaches on. Right, you do the show from
from you dub Yeah?
Speaker 2 (12:59):
Right? Now a different thing.
Speaker 5 (13:01):
Well, now there's two signing days and two portals, right,
and none of it means anything. And I don't want
to be on my knees in the mock sifting through
the sea moss to see what's what or who's going where.
I really don't, so I'm not even paying much attention
to it anymore.
Speaker 4 (13:19):
Yeah, And I think a lot of people feel that way, that, hey,
how many of these guys are going to stay, how
many of them will be gone after a year, how
many of my other thing is like portal players that
will be here in a couple of weeks or whatever.
Speaker 3 (13:32):
I'm tired of.
Speaker 5 (13:33):
Like the five paragraphs you expect me to read when
you transfer on your Twitter post or whatever.
Speaker 2 (13:39):
Me, No, just whoever transferring? Right now? They put these
screenshots up of notes.
Speaker 5 (13:46):
And to this person and to that person, and I'm
eternally grateful, and please respect my just say, you're transferring
just nobody cares anymore, but the with the inspirational picture
of your face up close, and then you playing in
the uniform like no, okay, no nobody cares. You're a
(14:06):
football mercenary just like the rest of us. That's right,
shut your hole and go play it freaking wyoming.
Speaker 4 (14:13):
My favorite is when they write these big, long notes
but how much they love the school, and then at
the very very end with that, I'm in the portal.
Speaker 2 (14:24):
Please respect my decision.
Speaker 4 (14:26):
Well, I saw where Lincoln Riley did. Is Central Florida
going after Lincoln Riley? What the hell is do you
believe that? I don't know what to believe? Man, I
know Jen would love to have that, don't you think?
Speaker 2 (14:38):
Are you kidding me? Hey? That's fine.
Speaker 5 (14:40):
I mean you'd want to ask yourself why the story
is out right? Is Lincoln trying through his agent to
show his desirability or flex a muscle? Does UCF really
want him? I know USC doesn't. Usc fans are thinking
is this a way out?
Speaker 2 (15:00):
And it's not.
Speaker 5 (15:00):
He's in year three of a ten year, ten million
dollar deal with a huge buyout, and I think his
agent or somebody, I mean, Feldman has gotten in line
with this and all of the coaching carousel clowns, and
I think they're trying to drum up some interest and
be like, see see people want Lincoln, see Cecee. But
(15:23):
I mean, I don't think USC is going to get
out of this that easily, do you. It is going
to cost According to the Athletic article today, it's going
to cost ninety million to get ridily correctly, Yes, and
I thought it was that's twenty million more than I thought.
I thought it was seventieth night. I told you it
was ninety one. Yeah, so there you go. Yeah, Okay,
(15:44):
you're right. You want to go do a lap with
your doubt, Like, really, I know it's cold up there.
Speaker 4 (15:50):
I just don't know why you just don't trust me
when I tell you, oh, I don't know. You're talking
about whether or not Lebron should be sitting during the
NBA Cup. Well, that one got by me too, Like
when did Lebron make his like weird manifest destiny proclamation
that he wasn't gonna he was gonna play in every
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single game I don't know, and he wasn't gonna set out,
Like when did that happen?
Speaker 2 (16:15):
I was surprised too to hear that.
Speaker 5 (16:16):
Yeah, you know, they're like, oh, he's gonna play in
ALL eighty two and that's a jeopardy now because he's
oh for fifty in the last. It's like, what when
did he say he was gonna play ALL eighty two?
Did I miss something?
Speaker 2 (16:25):
I don't. I don't work in LA, so I don't
need to, you know, watch things like.
Speaker 5 (16:29):
Well, I don't know. I missed it too. I don't
watch anything. I didn't watch the Organ game. I don't
know about Lebron. I don't know about anything.
Speaker 2 (16:35):
But he makes it.
Speaker 4 (16:35):
He's got an uncannyability man, even when there's nothing going on,
to make it all about him.
Speaker 2 (16:40):
And he's done it again. Oh in his media company
that everybody tried to stroke for years.
Speaker 5 (16:45):
You know, he's a media mobile. He's not just they've
never made money. It's never made money, according to Bloomberg,
and they are thirty million dollars in debt.
Speaker 2 (16:56):
Stick to basketball. Oh you're not supposed to say that.
Shut up and dribble.
Speaker 4 (17:00):
Oh oh god, all right, hey, listen, we're here not
you're not feeling great?
Speaker 2 (17:09):
Get better at up? What do you mean?
Speaker 4 (17:11):
I'm trying to express some sympathy for you. Why do
you take a day off and enjoy rest?
Speaker 2 (17:18):
Up? They won't miss you that bad if you skip
a show very important that I do sports talk radio.
All right, go get him, cowboy.
Speaker 5 (17:29):
What would become of the world if I wasn't there
to tell everybody what's going on?
Speaker 4 (17:33):
How long would you have to be gone for before
people really got concerned? Like a Ferris Bueller type situation?
Speaker 2 (17:39):
Three minutes? Oh really? People know that I'm very volatile.
You're that important. Uh, I'm that explosive? All right?
Speaker 4 (17:49):
Sucking easy, Softy, see you man, bet Tros Papa Douca
is with us. We're gonna break Kevin Harlan's coming up
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Speaker 1 (17:59):
From the rn R Foundation Specialists Broadcast Studio. Now back
to Softie and Dick on your Home for the Huskies
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Speaker 4 (18:12):
I was telling Dick off the air, Jackson, we got
a pretty big Seahawk game that nobody's talking about.
Speaker 2 (18:17):
Oh yeah, we do, right, I mean it kind of
feels like, eh, you know, Arizona. I mean, it's a
huge game.
Speaker 4 (18:22):
I mean, the Hawks can like put the freaking nail
on the coffin for the Cardinals.
Speaker 2 (18:26):
If they win this thing on Sunday.
Speaker 3 (18:27):
It would have basically a three game That's right, correct.
Speaker 4 (18:30):
And I don't know, man, the last time we saw
Kyler Murray play was two weeks ago, and I was
kind of with Mike. I was disappointed and the way
he played ill that he looked terrible against the Seahawks.
Speaker 2 (18:39):
And I don't know if it was just the.
Speaker 4 (18:41):
Way the line played that day, or the play calling
or the Seahawk defense or whatever.
Speaker 2 (18:45):
But I mean, if we go down there to.
Speaker 4 (18:47):
Arizona and there's gonna be a lot of Seahawks fans there,
There always are in those games they play in that stadium,
and I know weird stuff happens down there. But I mean,
maybe I'm gonna eat my words on Sunday night. But
I'm not afraid of Kyler Murray at all, right now,
are you guys? No, not at all.
Speaker 7 (19:01):
But on the flip side, why should Arizona be afraid
of two thirds of our football team? I mean they're
looking at our football team saying they scored sixteen points
against us, and they just coughed up every possible ball
to the Jets and didn't win, Like there is nothing
about the Seahawks offense or special.
Speaker 4 (19:19):
Team they did win. Yes, he said they didn't win. No,
they they and they still were said they right. So,
But isn't that a better sign for the Hawks that
all that happened last week in a win? Like, what
are the odds of that happening twice in a row?
The Seahawks having those problems on special teams, like, you know,
they spent extra time on that this week they surprise
would you be if they came out again and looked
(19:41):
that inept on special teams again?
Speaker 3 (19:43):
Well, this is about the third time we've seen it
this year. Remember the fumble?
Speaker 7 (19:46):
Was it the Giants game where it just seemed like
every kickoff was muffed and picked up? Again we had
we had two return men crashing into each other at
the goal. This is not the first time this has
happened this year.
Speaker 4 (19:58):
Yeah, but that was something different than that was a
higher level of stupidity.
Speaker 3 (20:01):
That was five I mean, Dick, we talked about this.
Speaker 4 (20:05):
It was five consecutive kickoffs where either them kicking off
or the Seahawks kicking off and they just could not
get out of their own way, block pats, all that stuff.
So I expect it to be a lot better. I
think it will be a lot better. And you say,
why should they be afraid of the Hawks because the
last time they played Mike McDonald they scored six points?
Speaker 2 (20:22):
Noice story.
Speaker 7 (20:22):
Should they be afraid of the Hawks offense especially? I
don't think they should be afraid of the special teams.
I think they should be afraid of the defense.
Speaker 4 (20:29):
And I think again, if Mike McDonald's defense is really clicking,
then they likely will have another game where the Cardinals
will be in the teams scoring wise.
Speaker 6 (20:37):
Did you guys see the percentages of like playoff percentages?
Speaker 2 (20:40):
Yes, leave the swing is unbelievable.
Speaker 3 (20:44):
It's a big swing of any team in the NFL.
Speaker 6 (20:46):
If the Seahawks win, they're apparently sixty six percent to
make the playoffs, seventy one either way, it's ridiculously high
to make the playoffs. And then a win division is
not much lower than that Arizona with a loss twelve
and ten percent. But meanwhile, if the Cardinals win and
the Seahawks lose. The percentage for Seattle making the playoffs
(21:07):
goes from like sixty six to twenty two, and the
Cardinals goes from twelve to fifty four. I mean, this
is a game where the swing is as big as
it will be all year.
Speaker 4 (21:17):
My model shows seventy one percent. By the way, there
we go, my my samples.
Speaker 2 (21:21):
I believe it.
Speaker 3 (21:21):
Yeah, and I'm using the same logic.
Speaker 7 (21:25):
I am using the exact same logic to pick this
game as I used to pick the game two weeks
agoing against the Cardinals. Do you remember why logic was two
weeks ago? I said, wait a second. The Seahawks have
lost four home games in a row. The Cardinals have
won four games overall in a row. Those two streaks
need to stop and should stop so now. And they did. Well,
(21:47):
let's take a look. Now, Hawks have won three in
a row. The Cardinals have lost too in a row,
including to the Seahawks.
Speaker 3 (21:56):
Give me Arizona minus two and a half game, all right,
Well take him in factor of facial might list.
Speaker 2 (22:02):
Yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 4 (22:03):
I just think that the Seahawks were so bad offensively
in certain areas on Sunday, their special teams were so
bad in certain areas on Sunday that I just got
to think that the Cardinals are getting them at a
bad time. In that regard, they may not be getting
him at a bad time for the defense, because the
defense is doue to have a clunker right at some
point in time.
Speaker 2 (22:21):
I don't know if this is the team to have
the clunker against.
Speaker 4 (22:23):
It may come against Green Bay, right, it may come
against Minnesota, who knows, maybe it happens at Chicago, right.
But I just feel like I really like playing teams
and playing games where I feel like my team didn't
play very well and they still won the game.
Speaker 3 (22:37):
And they didn't play very well and they still won
the game.
Speaker 4 (22:39):
I mean, their defense was marvelous last Sunday against the Jets.
Kyler Murray again, I I just looked at him and
I was so underwhelmed.
Speaker 2 (22:47):
Man.
Speaker 4 (22:47):
And I don't know if he was banged up or
what the hell was going on that game, But I thought,
you know, people could tell me that, well, Kyler Murray's
greatly improved. Look at the way he's playing, and I
guess the numbers show that that he's improved. But I
didn't see that last Sunday or two sundays ago, I
saw kind of the same more of the same guy
that we've seen so far in the NFL.
Speaker 3 (23:05):
There's no question. I'm just looking.
Speaker 7 (23:07):
I don't know, I'm just looking at these offensive numbers,
and and I'm seeing how many points did the offense
score against the Jets.
Speaker 4 (23:15):
Nineteen to them twenty? I believe, yeah, oh thanks to
the Jets.
Speaker 7 (23:20):
How much basically how much I'm looking in the last
few games, how many points has our offense actually earned?
Speaker 3 (23:26):
Right in these games?
Speaker 4 (23:27):
Well, Letter Williams had the pick six, Kobe Bryant had
the pick six, and they missed the extra point got blocked, right,
so they scored twenty points on their own. Okay, they
had twenty points on I think it was like eight
drives outside of the ones that were all messed up
with the kickoffs, which actually I think points per drive
was pretty good. I saw the field goals guys tweeting
about that over the weekend. But I just believe that, yes,
(23:48):
they they've got to start doing more on offense.
Speaker 7 (23:50):
Because the Arizona game, they earned nine points, right because
they got an interception for a touchdown.
Speaker 2 (23:55):
Right.
Speaker 7 (23:55):
The forty nine Ers game did they earn all twenty
of their points in the forty nine ers game. I'm
trying to They had a field goal, they had a
field goal, they had a one yard run, leven play,
seventy yard drive, and leven play eighty ups, so you
did all twenty. So it's twenty good against the NINERSCO
twenty is well, I mean, I don't know about anymore.
(24:16):
I mean, so twenty points really for the last one, two, three,
four five games has been the absolute most your offense
has been able to score. And now you're going up
against an Arizonis team. If they scored nine points against
the last time.
Speaker 4 (24:32):
Yeah, which which I again, I think they'll do more.
If they score twenty, they're gonna win the game. If
a Seahawks scored twenty points on offense, they're gonna win
the game on Sunday. And I again, I just unless
we just absolutely feel that the offense is broken, like
beyond repair, then at some point they're gonna.
Speaker 3 (24:48):
Have a game.
Speaker 4 (24:49):
Right, at some point they're gonna erupt, But I don't
know what erupting by their standards means. It might be
twenty four points, but at some point they're gonna step
up at some point the defense will take a step back,
and at some point the offense will take a step
There's too.
Speaker 6 (25:00):
Much say, there's too much skill and there's too many
good players on this offense. Kenny Walker, Jackson's withinn Jigba,
who's like, he's like, what ninth in the NFL and
receiving yards this year? There's too much talent for them
not to have, you know, a few games down the
stretch here where they get twenty four plus points.
Speaker 7 (25:17):
I'm shocked at this number. Why is it forty four
and a half the total? Yeah, that seems high. Why
is it forty four and a half. I think it
should be like forty and a half because, like you said,
I mean, twenty should win it.
Speaker 4 (25:27):
Do you know where the Seahawks are in touchdown percentage
in the red zone right now?
Speaker 6 (25:32):
Oh, you asked me this, that's right.
Speaker 2 (25:33):
Where do you think they are? Thirtieth? They are twelfth
in the NFL?
Speaker 3 (25:36):
I said twenty fifty.
Speaker 2 (25:38):
Yeah, right, twelfth in the NFL.
Speaker 4 (25:40):
Baltimore, Cincinna, Chicago, Tampa, Buffalo, the Lions, the Commanders, the Browns,
the Saints, Denver, Miami, and US number twelve in touchdown
percentage now they're down from where they were last year.
Speaker 2 (25:50):
Actually though they're up.
Speaker 4 (25:51):
Sorry, they were forty eight point one now they're fifty
six point six percent. That doesn't make any sense because
the red zone. Every time we see them in the
red zone, we expect something bad to happen right right
every single time. But they're fifty six percent now. Maybe
some of that is due to early in the year
at the Lion game.
Speaker 2 (26:08):
Whatever.
Speaker 3 (26:09):
I got no idea to go back and check it out.
But if they.
Speaker 4 (26:12):
Could just find a way to clean up the red
zone problems that they're having, for as good as they
apparently are already in the red zone, it would just
be one extra touchdown a week, right, ten extra point two,
extra scoring drives, whatever, would make everything just feel so
much different. So I think they're going to bust out
a little bit this weekend against Arizona. But I'm also
(26:33):
kind of, like you, maybe a tad fearful that this
defense can't keep this pace up.
Speaker 7 (26:37):
The one thing I was thinking when we were running
play after play after play after play from inside the
three yard line and unable to score, I had some flashbacks.
Speaker 3 (26:44):
Correct me if I'm wrong.
Speaker 7 (26:46):
Did we not say frequently in twenty two and twenty
three with the Washington Huskies. Why the hell can we
drive from five yard line to five yard line and
we can't punch the ball in inside the five? Didn't
we not have those issues with the particularly two years ago?
Speaker 2 (27:02):
Absolutely?
Speaker 4 (27:03):
So maybe this is a Grubbish, could be could be
a Ryan Grubb Brob, no doubt.
Speaker 3 (27:06):
Maybe he's calling the wrong plays. I mean, I don't know.
Speaker 4 (27:08):
I just look at the formations they were in on Sunday,
And if you would have told me before, Okay, I
got the numbers right in front of me here right,
I had all those plays written down. I gonna go
back and look for him for crying out lock because
they ran eight plays right that they could have kept.
They had a couple that were called back due to penalties.
They had first and goal from the four, and they
threw the ball to DK Metcalf, Then they ran Kenny Walker.
(27:31):
Then they had a defensive pass interference against DK. Then
he's under center, he's under center, he's under center, he's
under center, and he's under center. In three of those plays,
they had a blocking back in for either Sharboney or
Kenny Walker. So if I told you before the ball
was snapped, here's what we're gonna do. We're gonna get
Gino Smith under center. We're gonna have this Barner Kid
(27:53):
and Sundell come in as lead blockers for Kenny Walker
and Zach Sharburney. We're gonna just run now, we're gonna
jam it up their ass. He would have said, great, let's.
Speaker 2 (28:02):
Go, and it didn't work. No, it didn't work.
Speaker 4 (28:05):
So I mean, is this a play calling problem or
is this an execution a simple execution problem by these players,
Because I think it's fair to be critical of Grub
for some of those calls, but not all of them,
not all of them for sure. All right, we're gonna
break textimonials. And then Kevin Harlan joins a five on
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