December 10, 2024 • 32 mins
In the second hour, Dave Softy Mahler and Dick Fain chat with Packers radio voice Wayne Larrivee about coming to Lumen Field this week to face the Seahawks, then listen and react to Huskies Head Coach Jedd Fisch talking about being in the Sun Bowl.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Three receivers.
Speaker 2 (00:00):
Right, here's the snap till Wilson extends the play backpedals
to the forty.
Speaker 1 (00:06):
Looking still waiting here? Does he lets it go to
sell the enzone for jump ball?
Speaker 2 (00:11):
And is it cut in the end zone?
Speaker 1 (00:16):
All you gotta be here? They got to look at
it built it was caught.
Speaker 2 (00:23):
Simultaneously the officials motioned touchdown golden tape. MD Jennings was there,
so was Sam Shields. How can they take that away?
Speaker 1 (00:36):
Twelve years ago? Dude?
Speaker 3 (00:38):
That fail Mary, twelve years ago and joining us right
now on the radio show, the voice of the Packers
who was on that call twelve years ago at Loomenfield
back then Century Link, Wayne Larevie with us on the ear, Wayne,
how are you man?
Speaker 4 (00:54):
Good? That was nothing compared to the NFC Championship game
two years later?
Speaker 1 (00:58):
My goodness, Well, you know what, It's funny.
Speaker 3 (01:00):
We actually we had this conversation off the air and
I told my producer Jackson Feltz, I said, look, the
guys agreeing to come on, don't play anything from that
NFC Championship game.
Speaker 1 (01:12):
Pail Mary. We can at least debate it whatever.
Speaker 3 (01:15):
I think you guys got screwed by the way, I
can admit that now twelve years later, but honestly, how
much do games like that? The NFC Championship today still
kind of bother Packer Nation and get talked about.
Speaker 4 (01:30):
You know, it's amazing. You know, the success is the
Super Bowls are one thing, but those losses like fourth
and twenty six at Philadelphia, you know, the fail Mary
in Seattle, the the NFC championship game in twenty fourteen,
those are are the things that just resonate like they
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happened yesterday, you know, And I think it's kind of
the cursive of the way we all are in sports.
Speaker 5 (01:57):
Well, another way the Packers kind of mirror the Seahawks
is you have a former quarterback that's still playing and
as having various levels of success. We were adamantly rooting
against Russell Wilson when he was in Denver because we
had their draft picks.
Speaker 6 (02:10):
We wanted him to lose. And now we're like, hey,
this is kind of cool to see him do well.
Speaker 5 (02:15):
Are Packer fans kind of liking what's going on with
the Jets and Aaron Rodgers.
Speaker 4 (02:22):
I don't know if they're celebrating it. There's been enough time,
you know, from his departure to now and Jordan Love
is kind of the focus of attention in Packerland, and
so I wouldn't say people are necessarily overjoyed that, you know,
Aaron has struggled and Davante as well, and before that
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Randall Cobb with the Jets. I just I don't feel
that way, I know personally, and I don't think fans
necessarily are too concerned about it either. Nobody seems to
talk about it whole lot.
Speaker 1 (02:54):
Well, Wayne Larvie again the voice of the Packers.
Speaker 3 (02:56):
And by the way, just for the record, you mentioned
that game in two thousand and four team and how
much that still sticks with you of the losses, and
I agree with you, but just don't forget pal. Two
weeks later we went to Arizona and got picked off
at the one Yard Life. Okay, so yeah, we we know,
you know, we know it.
Speaker 4 (03:13):
And I mean that that would have been two in
a row for you guys. And you know, here's another one.
Now this is before I got the Green Bay. But
the Packers won the Super Bowl, super Bowl thirty one,
I believe was Super Bowl thirty two. They're like sixteen
point favorites over John Elway and the Denver Broncos and
they lose to the Broncos in Lway's first Super Bowl championship.
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I mean, you know, that's the one that for that
era of fans and players sticks with them more than
the Super Bowl they won.
Speaker 3 (03:42):
Yeah, well, Wayne, this Packer team, I know a lot
of people loved him.
Speaker 1 (03:46):
A year ago.
Speaker 3 (03:46):
Greg Rosenthal picked them as kind of a dark horse,
and they came pretty close, almost knocked off the Niners obviously,
and now they're a you know, a nine to four
football team that in any other division would be challenging
for probably the championship. How good is this team that
we're going to see on Sunday night?
Speaker 4 (04:03):
Honestly, you know, they're evolving and I think they're they're
getting better. And they played Detroit tooth and nail in
a you know, heavyweight fight and you know, came up
on the short side. I'm curious to see. You know,
some games take more than a week to get over,
and fortunately they've had more than a week, or will
have had more than a week to get over that
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game physically and emotionally. And believe me, those two factors
are huge in determining how well you play on a
given Sunday in the NFL. So you know, I'm hoping
that they'll they'll be able to come forth and play
the way they did against Miami in this game against Seattle.
But Seattle's a much better team than Miami, and you know,
this is a big measuring stick for both. I think
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the Seahawks and the Packers or in very much the
same position, except the Seattle, with their eight and five record,
leads their division.
Speaker 5 (04:53):
Wayne The numbers indicate that Jordan Love's got the exact
same passer rating this year as last year. He's got
nearly a identical QBR this year is last year. But
what do your eyes tell you? What's how is Jordan
Love different? And is he better in year two than
he was in year one?
Speaker 4 (05:09):
Not been as explosive yet, but he's getting there, starting
to warm to the task, so to speak. You know,
he struggled with injury this season. He struggled with a
couple of injuries, and then you know it was just
kind of the stop and go. He misses two games,
comes back, plays a game and a half, is still
bothered by an injury. They get a bye week, he
comes back, He's healthy, and that's the thing that I
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think now we're starting to see Jordan Love play the
way he did at the end of last year. Is
he as explosive as that run last year? I mean,
he had eighteen touchdown passes in one interception of the
last eight games last year. I don't think he's at
that level right now, but he's getting there. And he's
still probably a little smarter quarterback now based on his experience.
Speaker 1 (05:53):
Hey, Wayne, you've been doing this a long time.
Speaker 3 (05:56):
I'm still trying to figure out how a guy could
be the voice of the Bears one year and the
voice of the Packers the next year. That's like being
the voice of South Korea, North Korea. That doesn't make
any sense to me. But you've been all over the place,
You've done it all. We've heard you do tournament games
obviously as well. But I'm curious to get your thoughts
from a couple thousand miles away on the quarterback that
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the Seahawks will throw at your defense on Sunday. What's
the what's the perception you think in Packer landing around
the NFL, and maybe especially from your defens's perspective on
Gino Smith.
Speaker 4 (06:28):
Yeah, Gino Smith Reclamation project, Right, You know he and
Sam Darnold. You know this is hey, listen, in this
day and age now, you get drafted and maybe high
up in the first round, or as Gino did, in
the second round, you get thrown into the fire, probably
before you're ready. You have to fail, move on somewhere else,
learn another way, and then come back and find the
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right system and the right coaching staff that believes in you,
that gives you a shot. And that's that's what Gino
Smith's all about. I'm really impressed with him with his
ability to He's a pocket passer, but a guy who
can certainly take advantage of a defense with his legs
as well two hundred twenty six yards rushing. I mean,
I think the guy's outstanding. He reminds me a little bit.
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He's a little bit of a gunslinger. The twelve interception
second most behind Kirk Cousins. I get that. But he's
also a guy who can win games for you. And
you know, hey, listen, I think people are happy that
Gino Smith has, you know, found himself and found a
career for himself in Seattle.
Speaker 6 (07:29):
Wayne.
Speaker 5 (07:30):
Usually when a team says so long to a veteran
running back, they usually replace him with a rookie or
a second year guy. And you guys decided to swap
out Aaron Jones and replace him with the veteran Josh Jacobs.
Speaker 6 (07:40):
How has that worked out for you?
Speaker 5 (07:42):
Because when you look at the numbers, I mean, what
Aaron Jones is doing is about the same as what
Josh Jacobs is doing in Minnesota and green Bay.
Speaker 4 (07:49):
Yeah, but you know, the whole perception of the Packers,
their whole persona has changed with Josh Jacobs running the football.
Green Bay has always been, you know, a cutting edge
West Coast offense with excellent talent at wide receiver orchestrated
by a Hall of Fame quarterback. That's what they've been
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for the last thirty years. Now, this team is starting
to take on a little different persona. They're becoming more
of a physical football team. And the first it starts
with Josh Jacobs. The way he runs the football. It
impacts everybody on that offense and the way they play
the game, and it even impacts the defense and how
they play the game now. And so you know, this
green Bay team, I would say is more physical than
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the Barb and Rodgers teams.
Speaker 3 (08:34):
In the passed Hey, Wayne le Revie again, the voice
of the Packers. I know you got to take off
and run here in a second. I'm just curious about
how many Packer fans you think we're going to see
infiltrate Loomenfield. You see these guys every road game, and
tickets to get in at venue Kings are two thirty
six right now. By comparison, the Bears are playing the
Vikings and the next Vikings home game, guys, tickets are
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one hundred and sixty. The next home game for Minnesota
is against Green Bay and they go to three hundred
and fifty dollars. That's the packing effect. How many Packer
fans should we expect? And do they still travel like Matti?
Speaker 4 (09:10):
Yeah, they do travel, and they travel well, you know,
like Pittsburgh and Dallas fans. The Packers are right there
with those teams, and there'll be a lot of them there.
I know they've got a pep rally in one of
the local establishments Saturday nights, so it should be a
lot of fun. It'll be a lot of fun in
that stadium. It's a great atmosphere, and you know, the
Pacific Northwest, you can't beat it. It's just wonderful place
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and you guys are so lucky to live there.
Speaker 5 (09:33):
Well, finally, Wayne, speaking of Packer fans, how do they
view the Lions right now? Because the Lions have always
been your little brother? I mean they've been in your
little brother for fifty plus years, and yet you know
they are now dominating the division, but they still haven't
beaten the Packers in the playoffs, and they still haven't
done anything really in the playoffs, and you still view
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them as the little brother.
Speaker 6 (09:55):
Not you, but Packer fans.
Speaker 4 (09:57):
Yeah, no, I don't think so. I think the Packers
fan as are viewing it now is the Lions' rivalry
is cranked up to a level we haven't seen and
maybe since the fifties, but no, this is it's becoming
a great rivalry. And the Lions this is their year, guys.
This is their last year with San Francisco's year to
win and they didn't quite get it done. This is
Detroit's year, despite all their injuries and everything else, it's
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their year and if they don't get it done. I
told him, many friends with the Lions. My former boss
is working with the Lions now. I told him, Hey, listen,
you guys, don't win it all this year. Take a
look at what San Francisco is, because that's probably what
you're going to be next year if you miss this opportunity.
Speaker 3 (10:35):
All right, before you go, you got a call coming
and I know that. Give us thirty seconds. We do
a show every Thursday with a guy named Mike Holmgren
who sits down with us for an hour every Thursday.
Speaker 1 (10:45):
Oh wow, he's a finalist for the Hall of Fame.
Speaker 3 (10:48):
Give us your thoughts on Mike's candidacy for Canton Man.
Speaker 4 (10:53):
I got to tell you something, There is no one
who deserves it more what he did along with Ron
Wolf at the hiring of Bob Harlan and Green Bay.
They took a historic franchise that was totally dormant and
in the age of pro football, the modern age of
Pro football, no one thought they would ever be able
to win again. Bob Harlan didn't was wondered if they'd
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ever be able to win again. Those guys turned it around.
Those guys were at the focal point of one of
the greatest turnarounds in the history of the National Football League,
and Mike Homeran was right in the middle of it.
And if you think he was only a one trick
pony going to green Bay. He went to Seattle and
they built a Super Bowl team there. So now he's
well he deserves it. Gosh, that's great. Tell him we
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all wish him the best, and they're hoping to see
him in Canton next summer.
Speaker 3 (11:40):
Now we will for sure, all right, Wayne, great stuff,
appreciate this and we'll talk down the rud bide. Thank you,
thank you you, bet Wayne Laravie again the voice of
the Packers. I mean that is I didn't even notice
that until I looked it up, that the Vikings, who
by all accounts, they get good fans in their stadium, right,
they got a good fan base in Minnesota.
Speaker 1 (11:57):
Bears are coming to town.
Speaker 3 (11:58):
They're eleven and two tickets are in sixty bucks to
get in the door. The next home game is against
the Packers, and they jumped to three point fifty because
of Green Bay.
Speaker 1 (12:06):
That's crazy.
Speaker 5 (12:07):
Well, it's always been the number one rivalry up there,
though it hasn't been Bears Packers. It's been Packers Vikings
for about twenty platt plus years.
Speaker 3 (12:13):
But the two hundred dollars more to get in the
doors and the Seahawk tickets are two hundred and forty
bucks to get in the door for this game on Sunday.
There's gonna be a lot of Packer fans there, man
for sure. All right, we're gonna break. Let's talk some dogs. Baby,
you fired up for the Sunball?
Speaker 7 (12:28):
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Speaker 3 (12:29):
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Speaker 3 (13:07):
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Speaker 6 (13:14):
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Speaker 3 (13:17):
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off your entire order. So have we looked at this
Louisville football? First of all, how many people are fired
up for the some ball?
Speaker 1 (13:56):
Raise your hand?
Speaker 8 (13:57):
Well?
Speaker 6 (13:57):
What's fired up? Excited for it? I'm gonna watch every second?
Is that excited about it?
Speaker 7 (14:03):
No?
Speaker 1 (14:03):
I don't think so. I'm as excited if you'll watch
every Husky game no matter what.
Speaker 5 (14:06):
I'm as excited for the sun Ball as I am
for any other normal like conference football.
Speaker 1 (14:12):
All right, so you're not that fired up for it?
Speaker 4 (14:14):
Right?
Speaker 1 (14:14):
Whatever?
Speaker 4 (14:14):
Right?
Speaker 1 (14:15):
I mean another game?
Speaker 3 (14:16):
Yeah, if the game got delayed or snowed out, or
a tornado ripped through El Paso or Juarez invaded whatever. Okay, fine,
this is a Louisville football team. That is eight and four.
They lost a Notre Dame by seven, They lost to
SMU by seven, they lost to Miami by seven, and
they beat Clemson. They were leading Clemson thirty three to
fourteen with six minutes to go in the fourth quarter,
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and they won thirty three twenty one. I have no
idea what happened against Stanford. I think it was some
kind of crazy ending if I remember correctly, against Stanford.
But they got this Tyler Shuck kid. I'm not even
sure if he's playing in the game right, the former
Oregon quarterback who went to Texas Tech. They got two,
from what I understand from my moles down there in Louisville,
really good running backs and Isaac Brown and Duke Watson.
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But I don't know how many people are playing in
the game right, Like who's who's transferring in, who's transferring out?
Who gives a damn? Who cares? Who doesn't care? On paper,
Louisville looks like a pretty good football team despite their
eight and four record, But I got no idea who's
coming and going?
Speaker 5 (15:14):
Yeah, Stanford game, Louisville blew it against Stanford. They had
a twenty eight to thirteen lead in the second half
of Stanford and lost thirty eight to thirty five. So
that was a And I think bowl games have always
been I think the most difficult things to handicap in
sports because of the motivation factor. Right, the motivation factor
is always come into play bowl games, at least in
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the last fifteen twenty years of Alabama.
Speaker 3 (15:38):
Alabama bet against Alabama, bet against Alabama probably, So I'm
telling you.
Speaker 1 (15:44):
Teams that don't give a damn and they don't give a.
Speaker 5 (15:47):
Damn, right, they don't, And you would think Michigan be
fairly excited. Bit yeah, I mean they just beat O exactly,
so not only have the motivation factor, but now you
got the transfer portal factor. So I don't know how
anybody could confidently wager on a non college football playoff bowlgame.
Speaker 3 (16:05):
Well, you'd have to go look at teams that up
until Sunday thought they had a chance at playing for
the playoff and then got left out. And Alabama's number one.
I mean you could talk about it in Miami number
two teams like that, Like you can argue, well, Michigan
had a down year, but yeah, but Michigan from day
one of the twenty twenty four season never thought they
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were going to repeat as champions, never and never thought
I think they'd even play for the title. By the way,
so they've known this is coming for a long time
Alabama fans. And I know because Ryan Fowler was blowing
my you know what up on Saturday night. He's texting me, hey, man,
think we're getting in. It's like, where do I know?
What do you call me for? By the way, did
you see that Bret McMurphy on Sunday morning, ninety minutes
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before the playoff show hit the air, reported that Alabama
was out?
Speaker 1 (16:57):
Did you see that?
Speaker 6 (16:58):
I didn't notice that.
Speaker 3 (17:00):
Before the show aired. He reported that SMU was in
and Alabama was left out. And there were people that
were pissed. They're pissed at that word getting leaked, and
they were pissed at McMurphy for putting it out because
it ruined the TV show.
Speaker 5 (17:13):
Well, we have found out that Brent McMurphy has got
some pretty good sources and he is usually right.
Speaker 3 (17:18):
He's all over it, man. No question today is actually
this was on Sunday. Correct Sunday. We haven't heard from
jet Fish in a while, right. Jetfish talking with the
media and started off by talking about facing that Louisville
football team that we just talked about.
Speaker 9 (17:33):
Looking forward to announcing that we are playing in the
Sun Bowl against Louisville, which is I think they played
the ACC Conference championship game last year. It's a really
good team. It's a team that you go back and
you look at some of their eight and four football
team that had a seven point loss against Not Your Dame,
a seven point loss against Miami, They beat Clemson, I think,
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a couple of field goal loss against Stanford, but really
good team beat Kentucky by twenty seven points, and so
we know we're looking forward to having a great game.
We want this to be a championship game for our guys.
I told our team today, we had a banquet that
we were playing the Sun Bowl Championship game, and our
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goal is to go out there and win the championship.
Speaker 6 (18:20):
Our goals to get fans to come.
Speaker 9 (18:22):
We want people there that helps our players, that helps
our team, that helps our program. We want to make
sure that our team is excited. We are excited. This
was not what we had no idea what our team
was going to look like in January, in April, and
in June and for us to go out there and
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get to a point where we're playing in a bowl game,
that's something that we're very proud of. We're excited about
going to the second oldest bowl game. I've never been
to the Sun Bowl, so there's a new bowl game
on my checklist, and we are going to make it
a fantastic experience for our team.
Speaker 8 (19:00):
A couple of guys that have already announced they're going
to enter the transfer portal, and I'm sure you're expecting more.
How are you gonna treat those players for the upcoming game?
And anybody you anticipating in just opting out and.
Speaker 9 (19:12):
Not playing, opting out? No, I don't envision that. I
don't envision people opting out and not playing. This is
a great opportunity. This is a bowl game on New
Year's Day, New Year's Eve day, so no one's hung
over yet, so everybody's tuning in. It's at noon Eastern time,
I believe so, or something like that, noon or one o'clock,
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one o'clock maybe eastern perfect time, perfect time to play football.
Everybody can watch it. So I would expect everybody to
tune in and so no one to opt out. I
do expect people to transfer. That's the world we're in.
And I've said to the guys, for the most part,
this Bowl game is to celebrate this past season and
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during the portal is moving forward into next season. So
they could enter the portal and still play in this game.
The question becomes, if you enter the portal and you
want to start going on visits to other programs, then
you've now eliminated yourself from playing in the game because
we're practicing during those visits. So that'll be every issue,
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of every situation will be unique. Jack McCallister is going
to play in the game. He'll be our punter for
the game. The rest of the guys, I don't envision
knowing exactly what they're gonna do just yet. I'll probably
meet with some of the guys next week, but most
of the guys that enter the portal so far are
probably entering with the mindset of looking to find a
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place to go play.
Speaker 1 (20:45):
You've had four that have publicly announced. How many do
you think total would you guess.
Speaker 5 (20:49):
That are going to do this?
Speaker 1 (20:51):
Oh, I don't know.
Speaker 9 (20:52):
I really have no I don't even have an idea
of how many will go in the portal. Now, how
many will wait till April. How many will want to
be involved in competitions and see where they fall with
the new players that are coming in, you know, see
where they land, and then make their decision in the
April portal. I don't think any of us know we
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need to get it fixed. I know that I know
we have to find a way to be better as
a industry and how we're handling, you know, the idea
of guys just constantly going and coming from a team.
But I don't know how many demon.
Speaker 8 (21:29):
Being your starter? How does Will approach this? Is he
approach it as the backup, a guy who's going to
split time, a guy who's going to play. How are
you doing that?
Speaker 4 (21:37):
Yeah?
Speaker 9 (21:38):
Just was with Will in my office talking about life
and talking about his future and how proud I am
of him. He is going to continue to compete, He
is going to continue to make them on better. Demon
will start and we'll do the same thing we did
with the reps that we did leading up to Oregon,
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where it's about a seventy five to twenty five percent
split the way we practice, and then we'll run about
seventy five percent of the scout team and then he's
going to continue to work on all of the things
that will help him as he begins to train for
the NFL. But right now it's Demon's team, and the
mom will use this month of December to really put
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his foot down.
Speaker 3 (22:21):
So I threw a poll out last night that we'll
get to at some point today on the radio show
do the update later, just asking people if the whole
kind of all the changes in college football, nil, the portal,
blah blah blah, are leaving you more interested, less interested,
or the same when it comes to being a fan
of the game.
Speaker 1 (22:40):
So we'll chat about that a little bit later.
Speaker 3 (22:42):
But I found myself yesterday when I heard the Khali
to Fi news, by the way, just kind of temporarily
getting a little exhausted by all of this. If that
makes any sense, that you're getting ready for a bowl game,
you got guys that are already saying they want to
play for somebody else next year. The season's not a
even over, a free agency has already begun. We talked
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about Cade McNamara two years ago before the year was over,
even committing to Iowa. I mean, it's just the lack
of structure in this thing is exhausting me. It really is.
And maybe I'm in the minority, maybe I'm in the
extreme minority. But you want to run this thing like
a legitimate league, you got to start to get some
damn rules in some stinking structure here, because this is
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just getting bananas. Like nobody, nobody should be talking about
players leaving teams before the season's already over. They don't
even allow that in the NFL. I mean, not even
allowed until the middle of March, a month after the
damn Super Bowl, Right, Like, what legitimate league or sport
runs itself the way college football is currently running itself.
Speaker 5 (23:48):
Well, none, And you're not in a minority. I think
you're probably in the majority. It that it ticks people off,
It hasn't. It hasn't affected my I voted in your poll,
by the way, Wow, thank you.
Speaker 1 (23:58):
It hasn't.
Speaker 5 (24:00):
It hasn't affected me one way or the other as
far as how closely I follow college football or how
much I root for the Huskies. But I have found myself,
I've told myself self, you can't get pissed off at
all these things.
Speaker 1 (24:13):
If you're going to.
Speaker 5 (24:14):
Get pissed off at every little change of college football,
then you're going to be perpetually pissed off at college
football until they get rules. So I've just kind of
just said, all right, this is just the way it
is right now. Eventually we are going to have structure. Eventually,
I believe it. I've always said this for the last
two or three years. Eventually, I think we're going to
have two conferences.
Speaker 1 (24:34):
That's it.
Speaker 6 (24:34):
That's all.
Speaker 5 (24:35):
Everybody is going to be enveloped into two conferences. And
if you don't make the cut, you don't make the cut.
And there is going to be rules and regulations. There
will be a free agency period, there will be contracts,
there will be collective bargaining, and it will truly be a.
Speaker 3 (24:49):
Professional sport, which is why Bill Belichick wouldn't go to Carolina.
Speaker 1 (24:52):
That's right, because it's the NFL light.
Speaker 3 (24:54):
I mean, somebody tweeted me and said, man, this would
have made sense ten years ago. It's the exact opposite. Actually,
ten years ago it would not have made sense. Now
it totally makes sense for Bill Belichick to do something
like that. And Jedfish is running the Huskies the way
Bill Belichick would potentially run North Carolina. I mean, he's
either a running guys out, or he's losing players because
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he's not willing to pay them what they think their
market value is. I mean, Khalite DeFi, by all intents
and purposes, had a chance to be your starting left
tackle next year. And he may have gone to Jedfish
and say, hey, I want this, I want that, and
Jed said see you later. There's going to be competition.
So Washington has lost three fifths of their starting offensive
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line from the Oregon game. And I don't think that's
a bad thing. No, these guys stunk a year ago.
And again, when you're talking about paying guys as professional athletes, now,
you start to use more colorful language like I just did.
Speaker 1 (25:51):
Right.
Speaker 3 (25:52):
You don't often refer to college football players like that,
and maybe I shouldn't refer to anybody like that, but
you get my point. When you're investing people and people
are coming to us, whether directly or indirectly, they're doing
it to all of us as fans, and they are
asking us for money, right They're asking us to donate
to mot Lake Futures, donate to Division Street, donate to
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the Cougar Collective whatever the hell they call their thing
out there, And then you want me to sit back
and not expect some kind of return on my investment.
Speaker 1 (26:20):
Screw that.
Speaker 3 (26:22):
All of this is falling on the fans, and so
you want that. You got to take what you get
in return when guys don't perform.
Speaker 1 (26:29):
Well.
Speaker 3 (26:29):
So, if I'm Jed Fish and I see an offensive
line that just gave up ten sticking sacks in the
Oregon game, You're damn right, I'm running people out of there,
absolutely running them out of there. If I only if
I've only got a finite amount of money to spend,
which they do, I'm spending it wisely, like uh freaking Indiana.
Speaker 1 (26:47):
Jones when he picked the cup.
Speaker 3 (26:49):
You want to shrivel up like the old guy, or
you want to get out of there with your life?
Speaker 1 (26:53):
What do you want?
Speaker 5 (26:54):
Well, sports fans love to take on owners and how
cheap they are, Right, that's all right.
Speaker 6 (26:58):
Guess who's the owner of the Washington Husky football team.
Speaker 3 (27:00):
Wow, that's a little bit different because we're mean, because
we're not billionaires, that's why.
Speaker 5 (27:04):
Right, But collectively we all collectively okay, we're billionaires. Okay,
but if you take every Husky fan out there, we're
multi billionaires.
Speaker 3 (27:13):
We're talking about individual people, right, so you're gonna paint
all of us with the same brush. I mean, that's
not even close to the same comparison. And you made
that about it. I just told you what I'm talking about.
You're gonna write it down for you. You made that
comparison many times. I've heard you say that before the year,
that Husky fans should be held to the same standard
as John Stanton and Chris Larson. Really, as a gree
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we own the team as a group, but we don't
own the team, Dick. I mean, we could go to
the ballpark and say, you know what, John and Chris,
you're charging me fifteen dollars for a beer. I want
you to win so badly and spend more money. I'm
gonna give you thirty.
Speaker 5 (27:50):
In what other sports can a guy like Dave Portnoy say, hey, kid,
you come to my school, here's three million dollars.
Speaker 3 (27:59):
Then go to the millionaires and ask them. Don't ask
you were right? Are we are we doing that in Seattle?
I don't see whales in Seattle.
Speaker 7 (28:07):
Also, remember Dave Portnoy got that money for that deal
because he came out there and said that, And then
it was wife who said, oh, I didn't know that
anybody else had the passion. If we had a personally
just put it out there in the world. It's not
that they had to throw their money. Correct, It's just
maybe a big money person says, oh, I didn't know
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that my money was even.
Speaker 1 (28:28):
Let me ask you this.
Speaker 3 (28:30):
Would it be easier to go directly to two billionaires
and say, hey, can you throw in an extra fifty
MILLI a year for the franchise? Or is it easier
to get fifteen thousand people on the same page to
spend more money and donate to a collective former.
Speaker 5 (28:44):
I mean, come on, guys, well you've got to find
the I mean, I've heard you talk about this before,
and I do think that I do think that you
see billionaires as like, hey, fifty million is nothing.
Speaker 6 (28:58):
I don't think fifty million is nothing to anybody.
Speaker 1 (29:00):
I really don't.
Speaker 6 (29:02):
I don't think. I don't.
Speaker 5 (29:03):
I think you you like to spend billionaires money. Saying
fifty million dollars is like it's like me spending two
fifty at tackle time. No, you know, but I don't
think it necessarily is because you're talking about these guys
that are worth that much. But you are talking about
these guys that have liquid assets of hundreds of millions
of dollars that they can just write a check.
Speaker 1 (29:23):
Tomorrow then get out of the business.
Speaker 3 (29:25):
Then okay, get out of the business and get somebody
in there that can do it the right way. If
you can't do it the right way, then get your
ass out. And if you look, if John Stanton and
Chris Larson really gave a damn about bringing a World
Series title to Seattle, if that was their number one goal,
you're telling me that they can't find a way to
bump this thing up to where the Astros and Rangers
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are right now.
Speaker 6 (29:47):
But don't you think if there were truly.
Speaker 1 (29:50):
Thirty guys how this turned into this conversation?
Speaker 6 (29:52):
Though I know, well the Mariners do that to us.
Speaker 5 (29:55):
Don't you think that if there are truly thirty guys
in the United States that were passionate enough about baseball
that they were willing to spend a quarter of a
billion dollars a year in payroll, we'd have thirty of
those owners in baseball.
Speaker 3 (30:05):
Yes, Because the problem is people like John and Chris
won't sell the team.
Speaker 1 (30:10):
I mean, this is not like.
Speaker 3 (30:11):
Going to Walmart, right, and Jeff Bezos can walk it
and say, give me a baseball team.
Speaker 5 (30:16):
My point is, I don't think there's the demand. I
don't think there's thirty individuals in this country, oh boy,
that A want to win to own a baseball team,
and B want to compete with the Mets and Yankees
at three hundred to four hundred million dollars per year
in sell, I don't think there's a demand to buy
the Mariners from those type of people.
Speaker 3 (30:36):
I do think that there is going to be only
a finite group of people that can spend that kind
of money.
Speaker 1 (30:41):
I agree with that. We're not asking for that.
Speaker 3 (30:43):
What we're asking for is to become legitimates in how
much you're spending. What we're asking for is to be
reflective of your market size and reflective of what it
would take to compete for a World Series title. And
they don't consistently do that year in and year out.
And Nick, the other part of it, too, is that
you're still talking about the greatest investment the country has
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to offer, which is professional sports.
Speaker 1 (31:07):
All of them make money.
Speaker 3 (31:09):
It's the biggest guaranteed winner you can ever stick your
money in. So if you went to a billionaire or
a multi millionaire, and said, hey, answer me this question,
all right, rich guy, where could you put your money
where you would feel the most comfortable that you would
get the best return on your investment. They would say,
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give me a baseball team, give me a football team,
give me a basketball team, give me a hockey team,
every single one. There's only been like two or three
teams that I've ever lost money in the history of
this whole freaking thing.
Speaker 1 (31:43):
So I don't know, Dick.
Speaker 3 (31:45):
I mean, I just think again, comparing Husky fans and
any college football fan base to two guys that could
wake up tomorrow and drop more money if they wanted to.
Speaker 1 (31:53):
I don't see that, but who knows.
Speaker 3 (31:54):
All right, we're going to break four forty one text
the audios, and then John Wilner coming up at five
right here, ninety three three k j R F N
Three receivers.
Speaker 2 (00:00):
Right, here's the snap till Wilson extends the play backpedals
to the forty.
Speaker 1 (00:06):
Looking still waiting here? Does he lets it go to
sell the enzone for jump ball?
Speaker 2 (00:11):
And is it cut in the end zone?
Speaker 1 (00:16):
All you gotta be here? They got to look at
it built it was caught.
Speaker 2 (00:23):
Simultaneously the officials motioned touchdown golden tape. MD Jennings was there,
so was Sam Shields. How can they take that away?
Speaker 1 (00:36):
Twelve years ago? Dude?
Speaker 3 (00:38):
That fail Mary, twelve years ago and joining us right
now on the radio show, the voice of the Packers
who was on that call twelve years ago at Loomenfield
back then Century Link, Wayne Larevie with us on the ear, Wayne,
how are you man?
Speaker 4 (00:54):
Good? That was nothing compared to the NFC Championship game
two years later?
Speaker 1 (00:58):
My goodness, Well, you know what, It's funny.
Speaker 3 (01:00):
We actually we had this conversation off the air and
I told my producer Jackson Feltz, I said, look, the
guys agreeing to come on, don't play anything from that
NFC Championship game.
Speaker 1 (01:12):
Pail Mary. We can at least debate it whatever.
Speaker 3 (01:15):
I think you guys got screwed by the way, I
can admit that now twelve years later, but honestly, how
much do games like that? The NFC Championship today still
kind of bother Packer Nation and get talked about.
Speaker 4 (01:30):
You know, it's amazing. You know, the success is the
Super Bowls are one thing, but those losses like fourth
and twenty six at Philadelphia, you know, the fail Mary
in Seattle, the the NFC championship game in twenty fourteen,
those are are the things that just resonate like they
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happened yesterday, you know, And I think it's kind of
the cursive of the way we all are in sports.
Speaker 5 (01:57):
Well, another way the Packers kind of mirror the Seahawks
is you have a former quarterback that's still playing and
as having various levels of success. We were adamantly rooting
against Russell Wilson when he was in Denver because we
had their draft picks.
Speaker 6 (02:10):
We wanted him to lose. And now we're like, hey,
this is kind of cool to see him do well.
Speaker 5 (02:15):
Are Packer fans kind of liking what's going on with
the Jets and Aaron Rodgers.
Speaker 4 (02:22):
I don't know if they're celebrating it. There's been enough time,
you know, from his departure to now and Jordan Love
is kind of the focus of attention in Packerland, and
so I wouldn't say people are necessarily overjoyed that, you know,
Aaron has struggled and Davante as well, and before that
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Randall Cobb with the Jets. I just I don't feel
that way, I know personally, and I don't think fans
necessarily are too concerned about it either. Nobody seems to
talk about it whole lot.
Speaker 1 (02:54):
Well, Wayne Larvie again the voice of the Packers.
Speaker 3 (02:56):
And by the way, just for the record, you mentioned
that game in two thousand and four team and how
much that still sticks with you of the losses, and
I agree with you, but just don't forget pal. Two
weeks later we went to Arizona and got picked off
at the one Yard Life. Okay, so yeah, we we know,
you know, we know it.
Speaker 4 (03:13):
And I mean that that would have been two in
a row for you guys. And you know, here's another one.
Now this is before I got the Green Bay. But
the Packers won the Super Bowl, super Bowl thirty one,
I believe was Super Bowl thirty two. They're like sixteen
point favorites over John Elway and the Denver Broncos and
they lose to the Broncos in Lway's first Super Bowl championship.
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I mean, you know, that's the one that for that
era of fans and players sticks with them more than
the Super Bowl they won.
Speaker 3 (03:42):
Yeah, well, Wayne, this Packer team, I know a lot
of people loved him.
Speaker 1 (03:46):
A year ago.
Speaker 3 (03:46):
Greg Rosenthal picked them as kind of a dark horse,
and they came pretty close, almost knocked off the Niners obviously,
and now they're a you know, a nine to four
football team that in any other division would be challenging
for probably the championship. How good is this team that
we're going to see on Sunday night?
Speaker 4 (04:03):
Honestly, you know, they're evolving and I think they're they're
getting better. And they played Detroit tooth and nail in
a you know, heavyweight fight and you know, came up
on the short side. I'm curious to see. You know,
some games take more than a week to get over,
and fortunately they've had more than a week, or will
have had more than a week to get over that
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game physically and emotionally. And believe me, those two factors
are huge in determining how well you play on a
given Sunday in the NFL. So you know, I'm hoping
that they'll they'll be able to come forth and play
the way they did against Miami in this game against Seattle.
But Seattle's a much better team than Miami, and you know,
this is a big measuring stick for both. I think
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the Seahawks and the Packers or in very much the
same position, except the Seattle, with their eight and five record,
leads their division.
Speaker 5 (04:53):
Wayne The numbers indicate that Jordan Love's got the exact
same passer rating this year as last year. He's got
nearly a identical QBR this year is last year. But
what do your eyes tell you? What's how is Jordan
Love different? And is he better in year two than
he was in year one?
Speaker 4 (05:09):
Not been as explosive yet, but he's getting there, starting
to warm to the task, so to speak. You know,
he struggled with injury this season. He struggled with a
couple of injuries, and then you know it was just
kind of the stop and go. He misses two games,
comes back, plays a game and a half, is still
bothered by an injury. They get a bye week, he
comes back, He's healthy, and that's the thing that I
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think now we're starting to see Jordan Love play the
way he did at the end of last year. Is
he as explosive as that run last year? I mean,
he had eighteen touchdown passes in one interception of the
last eight games last year. I don't think he's at
that level right now, but he's getting there. And he's
still probably a little smarter quarterback now based on his experience.
Speaker 1 (05:53):
Hey, Wayne, you've been doing this a long time.
Speaker 3 (05:56):
I'm still trying to figure out how a guy could
be the voice of the Bears one year and the
voice of the Packers the next year. That's like being
the voice of South Korea, North Korea. That doesn't make
any sense to me. But you've been all over the place,
You've done it all. We've heard you do tournament games
obviously as well. But I'm curious to get your thoughts
from a couple thousand miles away on the quarterback that
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the Seahawks will throw at your defense on Sunday. What's
the what's the perception you think in Packer landing around
the NFL, and maybe especially from your defens's perspective on
Gino Smith.
Speaker 4 (06:28):
Yeah, Gino Smith Reclamation project, Right, You know he and
Sam Darnold. You know this is hey, listen, in this
day and age now, you get drafted and maybe high
up in the first round, or as Gino did, in
the second round, you get thrown into the fire, probably
before you're ready. You have to fail, move on somewhere else,
learn another way, and then come back and find the
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right system and the right coaching staff that believes in you,
that gives you a shot. And that's that's what Gino
Smith's all about. I'm really impressed with him with his
ability to He's a pocket passer, but a guy who
can certainly take advantage of a defense with his legs
as well two hundred twenty six yards rushing. I mean,
I think the guy's outstanding. He reminds me a little bit.
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He's a little bit of a gunslinger. The twelve interception
second most behind Kirk Cousins. I get that. But he's
also a guy who can win games for you. And
you know, hey, listen, I think people are happy that
Gino Smith has, you know, found himself and found a
career for himself in Seattle.
Speaker 6 (07:29):
Wayne.
Speaker 5 (07:30):
Usually when a team says so long to a veteran
running back, they usually replace him with a rookie or
a second year guy. And you guys decided to swap
out Aaron Jones and replace him with the veteran Josh Jacobs.
Speaker 6 (07:40):
How has that worked out for you?
Speaker 5 (07:42):
Because when you look at the numbers, I mean, what
Aaron Jones is doing is about the same as what
Josh Jacobs is doing in Minnesota and green Bay.
Speaker 4 (07:49):
Yeah, but you know, the whole perception of the Packers,
their whole persona has changed with Josh Jacobs running the football.
Green Bay has always been, you know, a cutting edge
West Coast offense with excellent talent at wide receiver orchestrated
by a Hall of Fame quarterback. That's what they've been
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for the last thirty years. Now, this team is starting
to take on a little different persona. They're becoming more
of a physical football team. And the first it starts
with Josh Jacobs. The way he runs the football. It
impacts everybody on that offense and the way they play
the game, and it even impacts the defense and how
they play the game now. And so you know, this
green Bay team, I would say is more physical than
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the Barb and Rodgers teams.
Speaker 3 (08:34):
In the passed Hey, Wayne le Revie again, the voice
of the Packers. I know you got to take off
and run here in a second. I'm just curious about
how many Packer fans you think we're going to see
infiltrate Loomenfield. You see these guys every road game, and
tickets to get in at venue Kings are two thirty
six right now. By comparison, the Bears are playing the
Vikings and the next Vikings home game, guys, tickets are
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one hundred and sixty. The next home game for Minnesota
is against Green Bay and they go to three hundred
and fifty dollars. That's the packing effect. How many Packer
fans should we expect? And do they still travel like Matti?
Speaker 4 (09:10):
Yeah, they do travel, and they travel well, you know,
like Pittsburgh and Dallas fans. The Packers are right there
with those teams, and there'll be a lot of them there.
I know they've got a pep rally in one of
the local establishments Saturday nights, so it should be a
lot of fun. It'll be a lot of fun in
that stadium. It's a great atmosphere, and you know, the
Pacific Northwest, you can't beat it. It's just wonderful place
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and you guys are so lucky to live there.
Speaker 5 (09:33):
Well, finally, Wayne, speaking of Packer fans, how do they
view the Lions right now? Because the Lions have always
been your little brother? I mean they've been in your
little brother for fifty plus years, and yet you know
they are now dominating the division, but they still haven't
beaten the Packers in the playoffs, and they still haven't
done anything really in the playoffs, and you still view
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them as the little brother.
Speaker 6 (09:55):
Not you, but Packer fans.
Speaker 4 (09:57):
Yeah, no, I don't think so. I think the Packers
fan as are viewing it now is the Lions' rivalry
is cranked up to a level we haven't seen and
maybe since the fifties, but no, this is it's becoming
a great rivalry. And the Lions this is their year, guys.
This is their last year with San Francisco's year to
win and they didn't quite get it done. This is
Detroit's year, despite all their injuries and everything else, it's
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their year and if they don't get it done. I
told him, many friends with the Lions. My former boss
is working with the Lions now. I told him, Hey, listen,
you guys, don't win it all this year. Take a
look at what San Francisco is, because that's probably what
you're going to be next year if you miss this opportunity.
Speaker 3 (10:35):
All right, before you go, you got a call coming
and I know that. Give us thirty seconds. We do
a show every Thursday with a guy named Mike Holmgren
who sits down with us for an hour every Thursday.
Speaker 1 (10:45):
Oh wow, he's a finalist for the Hall of Fame.
Speaker 3 (10:48):
Give us your thoughts on Mike's candidacy for Canton Man.
Speaker 4 (10:53):
I got to tell you something, There is no one
who deserves it more what he did along with Ron
Wolf at the hiring of Bob Harlan and Green Bay.
They took a historic franchise that was totally dormant and
in the age of pro football, the modern age of
Pro football, no one thought they would ever be able
to win again. Bob Harlan didn't was wondered if they'd
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ever be able to win again. Those guys turned it around.
Those guys were at the focal point of one of
the greatest turnarounds in the history of the National Football League,
and Mike Homeran was right in the middle of it.
And if you think he was only a one trick
pony going to green Bay. He went to Seattle and
they built a Super Bowl team there. So now he's
well he deserves it. Gosh, that's great. Tell him we
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all wish him the best, and they're hoping to see
him in Canton next summer.
Speaker 3 (11:40):
Now we will for sure, all right, Wayne, great stuff,
appreciate this and we'll talk down the rud bide. Thank you,
thank you you, bet Wayne Laravie again the voice of
the Packers. I mean that is I didn't even notice
that until I looked it up, that the Vikings, who
by all accounts, they get good fans in their stadium, right,
they got a good fan base in Minnesota.
Speaker 1 (11:57):
Bears are coming to town.
Speaker 3 (11:58):
They're eleven and two tickets are in sixty bucks to
get in the door. The next home game is against
the Packers, and they jumped to three point fifty because
of Green Bay.
Speaker 1 (12:06):
That's crazy.
Speaker 5 (12:07):
Well, it's always been the number one rivalry up there,
though it hasn't been Bears Packers. It's been Packers Vikings
for about twenty platt plus years.
Speaker 3 (12:13):
But the two hundred dollars more to get in the
doors and the Seahawk tickets are two hundred and forty
bucks to get in the door for this game on Sunday.
There's gonna be a lot of Packer fans there, man
for sure. All right, we're gonna break. Let's talk some dogs. Baby,
you fired up for the Sunball?
Speaker 7 (12:28):
YEA?
Speaker 3 (12:29):
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Speaker 1 (12:51):
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Speaker 7 (12:52):
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Speaker 6 (12:57):
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Speaker 1 (13:00):
I love your reaction. What is this, dude? I'm I
don't know. I just yanked him from the system.
Speaker 3 (13:07):
I did this sounds like some dude just performing at
a bar somewhere like Phoebean friends.
Speaker 6 (13:14):
You know, you could always go through the systems like
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Speaker 3 (13:17):
How about we just do what Dick said and play
normal Christmas music. Can we get a little bing Crosby
up in here, little net King call up in here,
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off your entire order. So have we looked at this
Louisville football? First of all, how many people are fired
up for the some ball?
Speaker 1 (13:56):
Raise your hand?
Speaker 8 (13:57):
Well?
Speaker 6 (13:57):
What's fired up? Excited for it? I'm gonna watch every second?
Is that excited about it?
Speaker 7 (14:03):
No?
Speaker 1 (14:03):
I don't think so. I'm as excited if you'll watch
every Husky game no matter what.
Speaker 5 (14:06):
I'm as excited for the sun Ball as I am
for any other normal like conference football.
Speaker 1 (14:12):
All right, so you're not that fired up for it?
Speaker 4 (14:14):
Right?
Speaker 1 (14:14):
Whatever?
Speaker 4 (14:14):
Right?
Speaker 1 (14:15):
I mean another game?
Speaker 3 (14:16):
Yeah, if the game got delayed or snowed out, or
a tornado ripped through El Paso or Juarez invaded whatever. Okay, fine,
this is a Louisville football team. That is eight and four.
They lost a Notre Dame by seven, They lost to
SMU by seven, they lost to Miami by seven, and
they beat Clemson. They were leading Clemson thirty three to
fourteen with six minutes to go in the fourth quarter,
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and they won thirty three twenty one. I have no
idea what happened against Stanford. I think it was some
kind of crazy ending if I remember correctly, against Stanford.
But they got this Tyler Shuck kid. I'm not even
sure if he's playing in the game right, the former
Oregon quarterback who went to Texas Tech. They got two,
from what I understand from my moles down there in Louisville,
really good running backs and Isaac Brown and Duke Watson.
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But I don't know how many people are playing in
the game right, Like who's who's transferring in, who's transferring out?
Who gives a damn? Who cares? Who doesn't care? On paper,
Louisville looks like a pretty good football team despite their
eight and four record, But I got no idea who's
coming and going?
Speaker 5 (15:14):
Yeah, Stanford game, Louisville blew it against Stanford. They had
a twenty eight to thirteen lead in the second half
of Stanford and lost thirty eight to thirty five. So
that was a And I think bowl games have always
been I think the most difficult things to handicap in
sports because of the motivation factor. Right, the motivation factor
is always come into play bowl games, at least in
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the last fifteen twenty years of Alabama.
Speaker 3 (15:38):
Alabama bet against Alabama, bet against Alabama probably, So I'm
telling you.
Speaker 1 (15:44):
Teams that don't give a damn and they don't give a.
Speaker 5 (15:47):
Damn, right, they don't, And you would think Michigan be
fairly excited. Bit yeah, I mean they just beat O exactly,
so not only have the motivation factor, but now you
got the transfer portal factor. So I don't know how
anybody could confidently wager on a non college football playoff bowlgame.
Speaker 3 (16:05):
Well, you'd have to go look at teams that up
until Sunday thought they had a chance at playing for
the playoff and then got left out. And Alabama's number one.
I mean you could talk about it in Miami number
two teams like that, Like you can argue, well, Michigan
had a down year, but yeah, but Michigan from day
one of the twenty twenty four season never thought they
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were going to repeat as champions, never and never thought
I think they'd even play for the title. By the way,
so they've known this is coming for a long time
Alabama fans. And I know because Ryan Fowler was blowing
my you know what up on Saturday night. He's texting me, hey, man,
think we're getting in. It's like, where do I know?
What do you call me for? By the way, did
you see that Bret McMurphy on Sunday morning, ninety minutes
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before the playoff show hit the air, reported that Alabama
was out?
Speaker 1 (16:57):
Did you see that?
Speaker 6 (16:58):
I didn't notice that.
Speaker 3 (17:00):
Before the show aired. He reported that SMU was in
and Alabama was left out. And there were people that
were pissed. They're pissed at that word getting leaked, and
they were pissed at McMurphy for putting it out because
it ruined the TV show.
Speaker 5 (17:13):
Well, we have found out that Brent McMurphy has got
some pretty good sources and he is usually right.
Speaker 3 (17:18):
He's all over it, man. No question today is actually
this was on Sunday. Correct Sunday. We haven't heard from
jet Fish in a while, right. Jetfish talking with the
media and started off by talking about facing that Louisville
football team that we just talked about.
Speaker 9 (17:33):
Looking forward to announcing that we are playing in the
Sun Bowl against Louisville, which is I think they played
the ACC Conference championship game last year. It's a really
good team. It's a team that you go back and
you look at some of their eight and four football
team that had a seven point loss against Not Your Dame,
a seven point loss against Miami, They beat Clemson, I think,
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a couple of field goal loss against Stanford, but really
good team beat Kentucky by twenty seven points, and so
we know we're looking forward to having a great game.
We want this to be a championship game for our guys.
I told our team today, we had a banquet that
we were playing the Sun Bowl Championship game, and our
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goal is to go out there and win the championship.
Speaker 6 (18:20):
Our goals to get fans to come.
Speaker 9 (18:22):
We want people there that helps our players, that helps
our team, that helps our program. We want to make
sure that our team is excited. We are excited. This
was not what we had no idea what our team
was going to look like in January, in April, and
in June and for us to go out there and
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get to a point where we're playing in a bowl game,
that's something that we're very proud of. We're excited about
going to the second oldest bowl game. I've never been
to the Sun Bowl, so there's a new bowl game
on my checklist, and we are going to make it
a fantastic experience for our team.
Speaker 8 (19:00):
A couple of guys that have already announced they're going
to enter the transfer portal, and I'm sure you're expecting more.
How are you gonna treat those players for the upcoming game?
And anybody you anticipating in just opting out and.
Speaker 9 (19:12):
Not playing, opting out? No, I don't envision that. I
don't envision people opting out and not playing. This is
a great opportunity. This is a bowl game on New
Year's Day, New Year's Eve day, so no one's hung
over yet, so everybody's tuning in. It's at noon Eastern time,
I believe so, or something like that, noon or one o'clock,
(19:34):
one o'clock maybe eastern perfect time, perfect time to play football.
Everybody can watch it. So I would expect everybody to
tune in and so no one to opt out. I
do expect people to transfer. That's the world we're in.
And I've said to the guys, for the most part,
this Bowl game is to celebrate this past season and
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during the portal is moving forward into next season. So
they could enter the portal and still play in this game.
The question becomes, if you enter the portal and you
want to start going on visits to other programs, then
you've now eliminated yourself from playing in the game because
we're practicing during those visits. So that'll be every issue,
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of every situation will be unique. Jack McCallister is going
to play in the game. He'll be our punter for
the game. The rest of the guys, I don't envision
knowing exactly what they're gonna do just yet. I'll probably
meet with some of the guys next week, but most
of the guys that enter the portal so far are
probably entering with the mindset of looking to find a
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place to go play.
Speaker 1 (20:45):
You've had four that have publicly announced. How many do
you think total would you guess.
Speaker 5 (20:49):
That are going to do this?
Speaker 1 (20:51):
Oh, I don't know.
Speaker 9 (20:52):
I really have no I don't even have an idea
of how many will go in the portal. Now, how
many will wait till April. How many will want to
be involved in competitions and see where they fall with
the new players that are coming in, you know, see
where they land, and then make their decision in the
April portal. I don't think any of us know we
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need to get it fixed. I know that I know
we have to find a way to be better as
a industry and how we're handling, you know, the idea
of guys just constantly going and coming from a team.
But I don't know how many demon.
Speaker 8 (21:29):
Being your starter? How does Will approach this? Is he
approach it as the backup, a guy who's going to
split time, a guy who's going to play. How are
you doing that?
Speaker 4 (21:37):
Yeah?
Speaker 9 (21:38):
Just was with Will in my office talking about life
and talking about his future and how proud I am
of him. He is going to continue to compete, He
is going to continue to make them on better. Demon
will start and we'll do the same thing we did
with the reps that we did leading up to Oregon,
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where it's about a seventy five to twenty five percent
split the way we practice, and then we'll run about
seventy five percent of the scout team and then he's
going to continue to work on all of the things
that will help him as he begins to train for
the NFL. But right now it's Demon's team, and the
mom will use this month of December to really put
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his foot down.
Speaker 3 (22:21):
So I threw a poll out last night that we'll
get to at some point today on the radio show
do the update later, just asking people if the whole
kind of all the changes in college football, nil, the portal,
blah blah blah, are leaving you more interested, less interested,
or the same when it comes to being a fan
of the game.
Speaker 1 (22:40):
So we'll chat about that a little bit later.
Speaker 3 (22:42):
But I found myself yesterday when I heard the Khali
to Fi news, by the way, just kind of temporarily
getting a little exhausted by all of this. If that
makes any sense, that you're getting ready for a bowl game,
you got guys that are already saying they want to
play for somebody else next year. The season's not a
even over, a free agency has already begun. We talked
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about Cade McNamara two years ago before the year was over,
even committing to Iowa. I mean, it's just the lack
of structure in this thing is exhausting me. It really is.
And maybe I'm in the minority, maybe I'm in the
extreme minority. But you want to run this thing like
a legitimate league, you got to start to get some
damn rules in some stinking structure here, because this is
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just getting bananas. Like nobody, nobody should be talking about
players leaving teams before the season's already over. They don't
even allow that in the NFL. I mean, not even
allowed until the middle of March, a month after the
damn Super Bowl, Right, Like, what legitimate league or sport
runs itself the way college football is currently running itself.
Speaker 5 (23:48):
Well, none, And you're not in a minority. I think
you're probably in the majority. It that it ticks people off,
It hasn't. It hasn't affected my I voted in your poll,
by the way, Wow, thank you.
Speaker 1 (23:58):
It hasn't.
Speaker 5 (24:00):
It hasn't affected me one way or the other as
far as how closely I follow college football or how
much I root for the Huskies. But I have found myself,
I've told myself self, you can't get pissed off at
all these things.
Speaker 1 (24:13):
If you're going to.
Speaker 5 (24:14):
Get pissed off at every little change of college football,
then you're going to be perpetually pissed off at college
football until they get rules. So I've just kind of
just said, all right, this is just the way it
is right now. Eventually we are going to have structure. Eventually,
I believe it. I've always said this for the last
two or three years. Eventually, I think we're going to
have two conferences.
Speaker 1 (24:34):
That's it.
Speaker 6 (24:34):
That's all.
Speaker 5 (24:35):
Everybody is going to be enveloped into two conferences. And
if you don't make the cut, you don't make the cut.
And there is going to be rules and regulations. There
will be a free agency period, there will be contracts,
there will be collective bargaining, and it will truly be a.
Speaker 3 (24:49):
Professional sport, which is why Bill Belichick wouldn't go to Carolina.
Speaker 1 (24:52):
That's right, because it's the NFL light.
Speaker 3 (24:54):
I mean, somebody tweeted me and said, man, this would
have made sense ten years ago. It's the exact opposite. Actually,
ten years ago it would not have made sense. Now
it totally makes sense for Bill Belichick to do something
like that. And Jedfish is running the Huskies the way
Bill Belichick would potentially run North Carolina. I mean, he's
either a running guys out, or he's losing players because
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he's not willing to pay them what they think their
market value is. I mean, Khalite DeFi, by all intents
and purposes, had a chance to be your starting left
tackle next year. And he may have gone to Jedfish
and say, hey, I want this, I want that, and
Jed said see you later. There's going to be competition.
So Washington has lost three fifths of their starting offensive
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line from the Oregon game. And I don't think that's
a bad thing. No, these guys stunk a year ago.
And again, when you're talking about paying guys as professional athletes, now,
you start to use more colorful language like I just did.
Speaker 1 (25:51):
Right.
Speaker 3 (25:52):
You don't often refer to college football players like that,
and maybe I shouldn't refer to anybody like that, but
you get my point. When you're investing people and people
are coming to us, whether directly or indirectly, they're doing
it to all of us as fans, and they are
asking us for money, right They're asking us to donate
to mot Lake Futures, donate to Division Street, donate to
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the Cougar Collective whatever the hell they call their thing
out there, And then you want me to sit back
and not expect some kind of return on my investment.
Speaker 1 (26:20):
Screw that.
Speaker 3 (26:22):
All of this is falling on the fans, and so
you want that. You got to take what you get
in return when guys don't perform.
Speaker 1 (26:29):
Well.
Speaker 3 (26:29):
So, if I'm Jed Fish and I see an offensive
line that just gave up ten sticking sacks in the
Oregon game, You're damn right, I'm running people out of there,
absolutely running them out of there. If I only if
I've only got a finite amount of money to spend,
which they do, I'm spending it wisely, like uh freaking Indiana.
Speaker 1 (26:47):
Jones when he picked the cup.
Speaker 3 (26:49):
You want to shrivel up like the old guy, or
you want to get out of there with your life?
Speaker 1 (26:53):
What do you want?
Speaker 5 (26:54):
Well, sports fans love to take on owners and how
cheap they are, Right, that's all right.
Speaker 6 (26:58):
Guess who's the owner of the Washington Husky football team.
Speaker 3 (27:00):
Wow, that's a little bit different because we're mean, because
we're not billionaires, that's why.
Speaker 5 (27:04):
Right, But collectively we all collectively okay, we're billionaires. Okay,
but if you take every Husky fan out there, we're
multi billionaires.
Speaker 3 (27:13):
We're talking about individual people, right, so you're gonna paint
all of us with the same brush. I mean, that's
not even close to the same comparison. And you made
that about it. I just told you what I'm talking about.
You're gonna write it down for you. You made that
comparison many times. I've heard you say that before the year,
that Husky fans should be held to the same standard
as John Stanton and Chris Larson. Really, as a gree
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we own the team as a group, but we don't
own the team, Dick. I mean, we could go to
the ballpark and say, you know what, John and Chris,
you're charging me fifteen dollars for a beer. I want
you to win so badly and spend more money. I'm
gonna give you thirty.
Speaker 5 (27:50):
In what other sports can a guy like Dave Portnoy say, hey, kid,
you come to my school, here's three million dollars.
Speaker 3 (27:59):
Then go to the millionaires and ask them. Don't ask
you were right? Are we are we doing that in Seattle?
I don't see whales in Seattle.
Speaker 7 (28:07):
Also, remember Dave Portnoy got that money for that deal
because he came out there and said that, And then
it was wife who said, oh, I didn't know that
anybody else had the passion. If we had a personally
just put it out there in the world. It's not
that they had to throw their money. Correct, It's just
maybe a big money person says, oh, I didn't know
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that my money was even.
Speaker 1 (28:28):
Let me ask you this.
Speaker 3 (28:30):
Would it be easier to go directly to two billionaires
and say, hey, can you throw in an extra fifty
MILLI a year for the franchise? Or is it easier
to get fifteen thousand people on the same page to
spend more money and donate to a collective former.
Speaker 5 (28:44):
I mean, come on, guys, well you've got to find
the I mean, I've heard you talk about this before,
and I do think that I do think that you
see billionaires as like, hey, fifty million is nothing.
Speaker 6 (28:58):
I don't think fifty million is nothing to anybody.
Speaker 1 (29:00):
I really don't.
Speaker 6 (29:02):
I don't think. I don't.
Speaker 5 (29:03):
I think you you like to spend billionaires money. Saying
fifty million dollars is like it's like me spending two
fifty at tackle time. No, you know, but I don't
think it necessarily is because you're talking about these guys
that are worth that much. But you are talking about
these guys that have liquid assets of hundreds of millions
of dollars that they can just write a check.
Speaker 1 (29:23):
Tomorrow then get out of the business.
Speaker 3 (29:25):
Then okay, get out of the business and get somebody
in there that can do it the right way. If
you can't do it the right way, then get your
ass out. And if you look, if John Stanton and
Chris Larson really gave a damn about bringing a World
Series title to Seattle, if that was their number one goal,
you're telling me that they can't find a way to
bump this thing up to where the Astros and Rangers
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are right now.
Speaker 6 (29:47):
But don't you think if there were truly.
Speaker 1 (29:50):
Thirty guys how this turned into this conversation?
Speaker 6 (29:52):
Though I know, well the Mariners do that to us.
Speaker 5 (29:55):
Don't you think that if there are truly thirty guys
in the United States that were passionate enough about baseball
that they were willing to spend a quarter of a
billion dollars a year in payroll, we'd have thirty of
those owners in baseball.
Speaker 3 (30:05):
Yes, Because the problem is people like John and Chris
won't sell the team.
Speaker 1 (30:10):
I mean, this is not like.
Speaker 3 (30:11):
Going to Walmart, right, and Jeff Bezos can walk it
and say, give me a baseball team.
Speaker 5 (30:16):
My point is, I don't think there's the demand. I
don't think there's thirty individuals in this country, oh boy,
that A want to win to own a baseball team,
and B want to compete with the Mets and Yankees
at three hundred to four hundred million dollars per year
in sell, I don't think there's a demand to buy
the Mariners from those type of people.
Speaker 3 (30:36):
I do think that there is going to be only
a finite group of people that can spend that kind
of money.
Speaker 1 (30:41):
I agree with that. We're not asking for that.
Speaker 3 (30:43):
What we're asking for is to become legitimates in how
much you're spending. What we're asking for is to be
reflective of your market size and reflective of what it
would take to compete for a World Series title. And
they don't consistently do that year in and year out.
And Nick, the other part of it, too, is that
you're still talking about the greatest investment the country has
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to offer, which is professional sports.
Speaker 1 (31:07):
All of them make money.
Speaker 3 (31:09):
It's the biggest guaranteed winner you can ever stick your
money in. So if you went to a billionaire or
a multi millionaire, and said, hey, answer me this question,
all right, rich guy, where could you put your money
where you would feel the most comfortable that you would
get the best return on your investment. They would say,
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give me a baseball team, give me a football team,
give me a basketball team, give me a hockey team,
every single one. There's only been like two or three
teams that I've ever lost money in the history of
this whole freaking thing.
Speaker 1 (31:43):
So I don't know, Dick.
Speaker 3 (31:45):
I mean, I just think again, comparing Husky fans and
any college football fan base to two guys that could
wake up tomorrow and drop more money if they wanted to.
Speaker 1 (31:53):
I don't see that, but who knows.
Speaker 3 (31:54):
All right, we're going to break four forty one text
the audios, and then John Wilner coming up at five
right here, ninety three three k j R F N
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