December 18, 2024 • 34 mins
Petros Papadakis joins the show and talks about Jake Dickert to Wake Forest, the state of College Football, and much more. Are the Seahawks any better since firing Pete Carroll and hiring Mike MacDonald?
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Speaker 4 (01:50):
Thank you, Dick. I hope you're doing well.
Speaker 2 (01:52):
I'm doing well. I am doing very well. I'm doing
better than our previous host on the radio station heard
about that, Yes, yes, so our friend had.
Speaker 4 (02:02):
I didn't click on it.
Speaker 5 (02:04):
I saw because I follow KJR on ash or whatever,
and I was like, God, that sounds like something I
could use for my show. And I didn't click on
it or anything, but so I was glad to hear
that it was going to be addressed here.
Speaker 4 (02:19):
Yes, yes, well he's up there.
Speaker 2 (02:21):
Big news up there is Jake Dickert has flown the
coup from Pullman and headed three thousand miles east to
the college football superpower that is the Wake Forest Demon
Deacons and Ian earlier on today, actually before, he couldn't
wait to get on the air till twelve, so he
actually went on at like seven point thirty this morning
(02:43):
with our morning show. Oh really yes, and said the following.
Speaker 6 (02:47):
He took a job, an easy way out at the
worst ACC football program and arguably one of the four
or five worst Power four programs in the country. I
understand it. I've got zero respect for him. He's a liar,
he's a snake, and he's a puke. And that's all
I have to say about him today.
Speaker 2 (03:09):
A liar, a snake, and a puke. I think I've
been called those three things at some point in my life,
but not I don't think of the same sentence. I'm
certain that nobody's called me those things in the same sentence.
Speaker 5 (03:18):
Now, are there similar sentiments amongst the Kougs all around
the country? Is for ness kind of the voice of
the frustrated kug Or.
Speaker 2 (03:27):
Is Yes, Forness is the pied piper of Cougarnation.
Speaker 5 (03:31):
But does he have kind of a skin in the
game against Dickert? He always a Dickert guy, and now
he's upseest.
Speaker 2 (03:39):
Yes, yes, he had Dickert on like a month ago.
Speaker 4 (03:43):
Got it Okay?
Speaker 5 (03:43):
So he's like that booster at Arizona and Tucson when
Jedfish left and was like, I.
Speaker 4 (03:50):
Thought you were my friend. And that's why I've.
Speaker 5 (03:53):
Kept Roa McMillan, and I've kept no off of feet out.
Speaker 4 (03:58):
You'll pray for.
Speaker 2 (04:02):
That is exactly right. And I guess you know something
I were on with Wilner yesterday and I asked Wilner
straight up before we knew any of this, I said,
basically to the fact that the statement of is Jake
Dickerck really gonna stay here in twenty twenty five? I
mean I thought he was. I just assumed he was
going to be gone, And John said, well, there's gonna
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be a lot of jobs open next year. He kind
of felt like he was gonna be there for one
more year and then be there in twenty twenty five.
But I mean there are some Cougar fans that had,
I guess, delusions not only that Jake was going to
be here for twenty twenty five, but he was going
to lead the Cougars proudly back into the PAC twelve
in twenty twenty six and beyond. And I just I guess,
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I just don't know where that belief was coming from.
Speaker 5 (04:51):
It's interesting, do you want to start talking about it
on the micro or the macro whatever you wanted to Well,
there's a few different ways we're can approach this. I
mean in the small sphere of the Furness's of the world, right,
he knows all about it. He knows every single person involved.
Speaker 4 (05:08):
And I'm not.
Speaker 5 (05:10):
I don't know the guy. It's not like he's going
to put me on his show or anything. I'm not
going to attack him. But when I analyze USC football
very often some of the most obvious things aren't obvious
to me because I'm a little too close to it.
It's hard to see the forest for the trees when
you do it every day and everybody expects you to
have a take, and everywhere you go somebody says, well
(05:31):
what do you think about this or that? So I
understand the knee jerk reaction of being upset. The other
part is, I mean Jake Dickard came there to coach
with Rolovich, right right. I mean, if you think back,
you know, he came there to coach with Rollovich and
under a different a whole different landscape of college football
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and the PAC twelve and a different ad. So all
these years later he's the head coach, and good for him.
He's made it a success for himself to where somebody
else would offer him a job. He's gone through the
ousting of the conference, that weird embarrassing Pac twelve media day,
like half boner thing we did in the Bellagio in
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Vegas over the summer, trying to piggyback on the Big
twelve on the mountain west of all things. I mean,
he's been through all that stuff, different ads. He had
cam Ward come, he had cam Ward leave, same with
the OC, same with our buckle, the new OC. You know,
there's been a lot of turnover, and through it all,
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I think he's been a pretty great pullman stalwart.
Speaker 4 (06:41):
But I'm the same as you.
Speaker 5 (06:43):
I didn't expect the feel that I have calling their
games and talking to him and talking about how everybody
reevaluates everything at the end of the year felt a
lot like Jonathan Smith at Oregon State last year. So
that is the the micro level of it. The macro
level of it is, who wants to deal with what
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the hell's going on at Pullman? I mean, who wants
to deal with that at this point?
Speaker 4 (07:09):
I mean I and.
Speaker 2 (07:11):
They just had to two million dollar offer report. I
mean Ian talked about our show today. He heard that
there was two million dollars put up for John Mattere
and that wasn't good enough to keep John Mattiere in Pullman.
So it's like, but we knew too.
Speaker 5 (07:24):
I mean, look, we were doing the game we did.
I did two Washington State games I think down the stretch,
one of which they survived, another one they did it.
Speaker 2 (07:32):
How many people were there, Uh, not a lot.
Speaker 5 (07:34):
Well, it wasn't at Martin, it was it was way
deep in New Mexico.
Speaker 4 (07:38):
Got we did. If it wasn't Martin, it would have
been me. It wouldn't have been me, right.
Speaker 5 (07:42):
That was the the CW people that's picked up those
those PAC twelve games between Oregon State and Washington State
and when they played each other, and next year they're
gonna play each other twice because nobody gets after each
other like the Pack twelve football. But I saw them
down the stretch and a whole bunch, and look, we
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were already whispering to each other and under our breath,
this Materier guy's out of here, right, And they weren't.
They weren't all in on Matier when the year started.
His success surprised them. Now that that our buckle guy
is going to Oklahoma as the OC, I'm sure it's
not that well kept of a secret that Mateer is
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probably going to follow him, and he'll probably make maybe
more than the two million they were offering him in Pullman.
Either way, nobody likes this. Nobody really likes the way
things are right now. We have to be headed for
change in college football. But at the same time, I
didn't talk about somebody offering Matier a million dollars during
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the game because we just called the game. And this
is what happened to me and the people in Corvallis.
Like last year, I had an Oregon State game early
in the year and Mike Parker, our friend in Corvallis,
their play by play guy the Joe Beaver radio show.
We all know it called me up and they wanted
to talk like it was a game week, you know,
(09:08):
and they wanted to talk about all this and what
do you think is going to happen? And we're taking
these guys to court, these guys to court, and I
was like, you know, guys, I gotta be honest. I'm
not following it that closely. I can't give you a
great answer. We're in season. I'm worried about the kids
playing this game. I kind of want to talk about
And they were like, we're fighting for our lives, you know,
(09:29):
and they have to do your homework pros right.
Speaker 4 (09:31):
And they haven't called me back since. It's just like, guys,
you know, I was.
Speaker 5 (09:37):
Preaching from the mountaintop about how you guys were bleeding
out for the last fifteen years. This is not new.
The aftermath is ugly. It's interesting to sift through the
garbage and see what's left and what's next. But I mean,
the plight of the Beaves and the Koog's and everybody else,
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it's just like it's so tiresome at this point. Everybody's
going to leave at the end of every year and
expect the team to be totally different. You hope you
can hire a coach that can rally those troops. Nil
doesn't mean everything. The best most dominant college football team
I've seen in the last few years was Michigan, and
they weren't a heavy nil or transfer portal team under Harbaugh.
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They were a developed team and nobody could beat them.
The highest nil year in and year out is what
Texas A and L, and they don't win anything every year.
So I mean, there's somewhere between all of this, there's
somewhere to go. The Pac twelve does have money. They
like you said, they offered Materier two million dollars. It's
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a football program that people are going to pay attention to.
One person does not make it. The Washington State Cougars
had a great identity long before Jake Dickert decided to
be a defensive coordinator for Rolovich a few years back.
And I think that just the knee jerk, prisoner of
the moment reaction is a little bit it's a little
(11:05):
I don't know, maybe contrived.
Speaker 4 (11:07):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (11:08):
Petro's Papa Dakis.
Speaker 4 (11:09):
Something we all expected.
Speaker 2 (11:10):
That's exactly brought to you by Sweet James on a
weekly basis over on this side of the mountains, Petros,
How would you evaluate the job your boy, Jed the
Fish did this year.
Speaker 5 (11:22):
I guess it was kind of like I thought it
it would be. The job he did in Arizona was great.
You look at the schedule. It was not the toughest
ever Pac twelve schedule, and what was a very tough
year for the Pac twelve had they not had as
much success. The glaring topic would have been how he
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forgot what the overtime rules were against USC and kind
of blew that game when Fafieda was hot against Caleb
Williams and he couldn't figure out to start Forefida for
a long time, starting Jaydon DeLaura for quite some time,
So that there's a few and then of course the
Oklahoma team may beat in the in the bowl game
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was a very different Oklahoma team and they'd been decimated
by the portal. So a lot of the positive stuff
that gave Brett Brennan the expectations that he had going
into this season was and I don't think he did
that great of a job with staffing. I think Dino
Babers was a bad hire and he had to fire
him and all that, But a lot of that stuff.
(12:25):
I think thinking Arizona was going to be as good
as we thought they were going to be in the
Big twelve was fools goal. Now as far as Fish goes,
I mean, what did he do?
Speaker 4 (12:34):
He did?
Speaker 5 (12:34):
He played, you know, five hundred football and the Big
ten yep. And what is what is going to make
Washington football great? Well, it's going to be the development
of the offensive and defensive fronts like it was under
Chris Peterson and under Kalin de Bore when the team
was making playoffs and beating Oregon consistently. And I don't
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I don't see anything in he had Fish's background as
an offensive play caller, as a quarterback guru, as a
guy who's here to smart you, throwing the ball with
an air raid quarterback and Will Rogers or a different
guy now that runs around a little bit more. I
don't see that drastically or dramatically changing to where it's
a satisfying year in and year out product for Washington
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football fans who deserve and expect ten to eleven wins
a year. So I mean, I wouldn't. I just kind
of shrugged my shoulders, like I said when they hired him,
Like all right, and that's kind of why the season
ended up. Now, they ran the ball a little bit
and Coleman ended up being good, and he brought him
up from Arizona, and there's always going to be bright spots.
(13:42):
I'm not saying he's a bad coach. And he recovered
that program at Arizona and that was a dead program
and he deserves a bunch of credit for that because
a lot of people didn't think he could do it.
How does that translate into the dominant football that the
people at Washington need him to be, need him to coach,
to be there and be happy with him. I don't
know if it translates at all. Would I get like
(14:03):
jo just would be my blunt assessment.
Speaker 2 (14:05):
Well, the Belichick hiring certainly has tentacles all the way
over here on the West Coast because we're going to
lose our defensive coordinator as soon as the Sun Bowl's over.
And I think, well, I think Steve did a really
nice job, and maybe I'm overestimating it, and I think
he's going to be a loss, not that he's going
to be irreplaceable, but I just think Steve Belichick took
(14:27):
a bunch of good players and turned him into a
defense that was I mean statistically, and you look at
all the numbers, particularly passing stats. I mean, they were
a top twenty defense in America.
Speaker 5 (14:41):
Okay, I mean and a lot of that is based
on where you're playing, who you're playing, and what the
circumstances of that game was, and what was necessary for
you to win that game. I mean, you're not if
your defense isn't good enough to win at Rutgers. Like
that's my problem with USC too. It's like we're talking
about a blue blood football program. I mean, what are
we talking about. You lost at Minnesota and you lost
(15:03):
at Maryland, right, you know, you lost at Rutgers. We're
done talking, Okay, you know I mean the statistics Okay, great,
you know, yeah, they were good.
Speaker 4 (15:10):
Okay.
Speaker 5 (15:11):
It's a it's a guy's it's a famous coach's son.
Maybe he ends up being a great coach at North
Carolina one day, but I don't think the I mean,
who was the guy. It was Johnny Patron. He was
doing it with an Arizona right re he reuh reinvigorated
that guy's career after almost going all the way down
into the depths with Steve Sarkisian. Well, I guess overall,
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I don't think vicious defensive coordinator is going to tell
the tale about what kind of program it is going forward.
Although maybe Belichick is a is a special coach. Uh,
we'll find out in the coming years, because I guess
he's the coach in waiting in Chapel Hill supposedly.
Speaker 2 (15:49):
I don't know if it's in writing, but it's it's
certainly understood, no question about it. Petros Papaek is joining
us the Heisman Trophy presentation. I stayed up by. I
watched their other reruns of that and stop did you
Did you stop.
Speaker 4 (16:02):
Watching that years ago? Did you? Well?
Speaker 5 (16:04):
I did, because you know, it's become so uncomfortable. You know,
ESPN has stretched.
Speaker 2 (16:09):
It out to an hour hour Oh god, so you know,
they got to talk.
Speaker 5 (16:12):
To everybody's parents and it's super uncomfortable, and nobody's comfortable
being on camera. It's a room full of people, but
no one's talking because it's on live TV.
Speaker 4 (16:23):
It's just so weird and creepy. It's just, you know,
and you're just you were.
Speaker 5 (16:29):
Worried when Charles White was alive. You're worried he was
gonna scream or pass out or attack somebody.
Speaker 4 (16:34):
You know, it's it's uncomfortable.
Speaker 2 (16:37):
Well, the voting itself though, Should we have the voting
in January after all this is over, because I mean
some of these teams could play you know, Cam's Skataboo
for example, or astingety. They can play three more games
if you're a if you're on a Clemson team, you
can play four more football games following the Heisman Trophy
present days. And that doesn't seem like an accurate way
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to do you have somebody be the best player in
college football.
Speaker 5 (17:03):
No, And that's I mean, the award is so weird
and stilted, just like the rest of our sport. It's
based in tradition, and a lot of that tradition doesn't
hold anymore, like the dates, and the other part of
it is who votes. I mean, it's so heavily waited
on the Eastern seaboard because that's where college football started.
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I mean, there's a reason it says Champions of the
West in the Michigan fight song.
Speaker 4 (17:31):
You know that was.
Speaker 5 (17:32):
Pretty far west. You know Red Grange when he was
playing at Illinois. I mean, that was considered to be
way out there in the in the in the country
for these Grantlin Rice types to go right about. So,
I mean there's a lot of that, and I mean
the other who's voting, that's another thing. And everybody just
gets caught up in the sexiness of it. And nobody
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on the East Coast is staying up till two in
the morning to watch Ashton Genty run the ball against UNLV,
and really he appreciates how good of a defense U
and LV had this year and all that different stuff.
But you know, I don't really begrudge it because it
is whatever. I mean, it's not a real award. It's
run by an athletic club. It would literally be like
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if you and I back in the day at an
Elks club and like the twenties were like you know
what I say, Deck, I'd like to say somebody being
award one of these great young men that plays the football,
you know. I mean, it's like that's that's what the
Heisman Trophy is, and it's evolved into this thing and
there's great lore and anybody who's won the Tisman Trophy
has been a spectacular transcendent college football, right, you know.
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I mean, so we're splitting hairs when we get to
the top of it. For me, if a running back
goes for over two thousand yards in the way gent did,
and I saw a lot of it intimately, and I
feel the same way. I felt the same way twice
other two other times this modern era. I felt that
way about Toby Gerhart, and I felt that way about Christian.
Speaker 2 (18:57):
McCaffrey, all three West Coast guys because they didn't get
because they were on the West Coast.
Speaker 5 (19:01):
Well, And that's real hard. I mean, the only guys
that have won. I mean, you had Mariota win because
of the Nike backing, but it's really hard to get
that Heisman trophy unless you're a USC guy, yep, on
the West Coast. I mean, who do we got? We
got Gary Beban from Uclites, Terry Baker from my Beeves,
you know, I mean one hundred years ago, and then
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who else Marshall Falk should have won. It couldn't because
he's a West Coast guy. Everybody and Jim Plunkett excuse me,
from Stanton in my father's era, and everybody else is
a USC guy. And there's been don't You can't tell
me that there hasn't been other guys that aren't deserving
and all this time. But I hate to just make
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it simple and point to the bias. But I think
it's pretty simple. But hey, Colorado's pretty West coast too,
even though that was a national story and Travis Hunter
did have a great year, so congratulations to everybody involved.
Speaker 2 (19:55):
Yeah, my map here shows that Colorado is actually more
west than Michigan, so you know, it's the best player
in the West. Hey, before we let you go, thoughts
on the bar. Are you excited about the playoffs or
is it kind of take it?
Speaker 4 (20:07):
You are?
Speaker 2 (20:08):
Okay?
Speaker 4 (20:08):
Good?
Speaker 5 (20:08):
Well, you see what it's like. I mean, I don't
think it took any of the lore away from college football.
I mean we're talking about Washington State. Hell, I was
doing like a Washington State at New Mexico game in
November and there's like three people in the stands and
it's three degrees outside and it has playoff implication.
Speaker 4 (20:25):
Right yeah, and it does, you know, and it did.
Speaker 5 (20:28):
So that's an amazing thing for for I mean, I'm
gonna call the game regardless, but it's an amazing thing
to have those things coming to play on so many
more games. And I don't feel like it watered down
the product at all. So I'm looking forward to it.
I can't wait to see the state of Indiana catch
fire when Notre Dame and the Hoosiers clash soon here.
Speaker 2 (20:51):
Absolutely, I mean that'll that'll be fun.
Speaker 4 (20:54):
I think. I don't know.
Speaker 2 (20:55):
I just think the only team, the only underdog I
think that has a legitimate chance to win, is Tennessee.
Are you with me? Or is there somebody?
Speaker 4 (21:01):
Is there?
Speaker 5 (21:03):
The college sports and the young people and traveling and
girlfriends and the portal. I mean, that's the beauty of
our sport, not just the hash marks, which create a
lot of chaos, but the beauty is that young people
are not as mentally solid as pro football players, and
that creates real football chaos and real football excitement and uncertainty.
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So I think, yeah, I don't think it's going to
be chalk at all. I think it's going to be
a damn circus, just like college football is in general.
Speaker 2 (21:33):
That's that's the way we want it. Petro is always
a pleasure. It's great when I get a chance to
talk to you. You have a wonderful holiday season with
the Papadakas family.
Speaker 4 (21:41):
Save to you, Dick, God bless you guys. Take care.
Speaker 2 (21:43):
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Speaker 2 (22:10):
We have breaking news. Anders, we knew world of the
Seattle Kraken Ron France has been busy on the telephone.
Is that what you're telling me?
Speaker 1 (22:18):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (22:18):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (22:19):
It seemed like Dan was a little koy when we
talked to him, maybe knowing this would go down.
Speaker 2 (22:23):
I'm sure he probably did when we were when we
were talking. But we have found out in the last
half hours since we talked to Dan Bilsma, what have
we found out? And the krack and have made a trade.
Speaker 3 (22:32):
They are trading defenseman Will Borgan a third round pick
and a sixth round pick in return for Capo CaCO,
who was a forward formerly of the New York Rangers.
Twenty three years old, second overall pick in twenty nineteen.
But Will Borgan was going to be a free agent
after this year. So they kind of cashed in on
him with plus a couple draft picks, which Ian mentions
(22:55):
to me they were already at the max any team
could have anyway, so it's good to kind of get
those often. Kaco still lost some upside. I think it
was a little crowded for him in the forward room
in New York. So I think this is a good
trade for the crack And I think he's gonna step
right into your top six and still twenty three years old,
so I hope he can kind of find it a
little bit here.
Speaker 2 (23:12):
Well, it's a good thing about Hugh Millen because nobody
knows Coppocco more than Hugh Millan, and he can break down,
break down the train for us. But Hugh is back
with Uckey. Do that, Hackey. But there is one thing
that you can break down for us, and that is football.
And I'm reading a piece from Bob Candota today Hugh
entitled are the Seahawks better than last year? Here is
(23:35):
what the numbers show? And you know, I'm not going
to read all the numbers, but I'll kind of just
give you a general impression of how they compare to
last year. I mean, points per game, almost the same
points allowed, almost the same yards per play as almost identical.
Penalties are worse, turnovers are worse. There are a few
things that are better, particularly the run defense the second
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half of the season, But you know, all in all, look,
I mean, if you put all the numbers in a
blender and say which was better, it is almost identical
to last year overall. So what do your eyes tell you?
I mean, this team decided, this franchise decided. Jody Allen
decided that enough was enough, was enough? We need, for
(24:20):
the first time in over a decade, a complete overhaul
of the football process other than John Schneider. And what
do you think as far as the reviews thus far
through the first fourteen games to compare to what we
saw last year in the last couple of years of
peak here.
Speaker 7 (24:36):
Well, first of all, I wouldn't, at least in my
own way of analysis. I don't think I'm comparing apples
to apples, just say year over year. Because the Seahawks
under Carrol that was the culmination, and I understand their
changes on both sides of the of the ball in
terms of schematics, but an overall philosophy had not taking place.
(25:01):
So I think there was much more of a of
a change offensively, certainly defensively, and so I personally would
expect there to be a little bit of a step back.
You know, you'd graft the stock market, you know. You
know sometimes you know, Tuesday you go down, you know,
but by Friday, you know, you're up over the week,
And so I would expect something like that. So I
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look at the defense, and I'm particularly interested in the
improvement that we that that Seattle's made.
Speaker 5 (25:32):
Now.
Speaker 7 (25:32):
Of course they had a setback against Green Bay, but
I think that they've been a significantly improved defense since
the Buffalo game. And then offensively, I look at and
and I just feel like they're, you know, bringing a
butter knife to a gunfight because of the offensive line.
And until the offensive line is fixed, I just feel
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like it's not only pulling the offense down. I think
it's pulling the whole team down. And that's why I
guess there's promos going about my frustration. As as vocalized
on Monday, uh I was specifically talking about the interception
in the red zone that Gino had, and certainly I'll
say this Geno was the number one culprit.
Speaker 4 (26:18):
On that play.
Speaker 7 (26:19):
I'm not absolving Gino. But if you're just going through
the roster and you say okay, or the lineup on
that play and say who gets who gets minus? Charles
Cross gets a minus for his block on the way
too quick a penetration. Zach Scharburney uh had had you know,
he gets a minus on his blitz pick up. I
give a minus two uh to fant the tight end
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on in his routing, flattened it out uh in the
possibly a minus for Tyler Lockett.
Speaker 4 (26:47):
He was too deep.
Speaker 7 (26:48):
Either either Tyler Lockett gets a minus on that or
Ryan Grubb gets a minus on that because the spacing
was poor. So uh, you know. And and my point
was the detail matter. But it's also needs to be
recognized that more so on the offensive side of the ball,
it takes time for the the details to marinate and
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to bake and so that everybody understands it and can
play fast with the details. When I coach, you say, well,
it's just high school, but it's all relative, and you know,
at some point you say, okay, this doesn't.
Speaker 4 (27:22):
Look like techniques.
Speaker 7 (27:23):
Wrong techniques wrong bloom, change the technique, and then at
some point you say okay, guys, you got the technique,
it's right, but you're stuck in peanut butter. You're playing
way too slow. So do what you did because now
you've got the technique.
Speaker 2 (27:37):
Right, play with freedom now.
Speaker 7 (27:40):
But now just go and and when you're thinking, you know,
your your four five becomes a four to seven real quick.
If you think too much, you got to be able
to react a little bit. So I would just, you know,
for all of these reasons, I would say, I don't
compare them apple to Apple to Apple. And even if
there is a setback, I'm okay with that because I
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feel like they.
Speaker 2 (28:01):
Had kind of hit their lid.
Speaker 7 (28:03):
With Pete Carroll fourteen years, nine playoff wins in the
first seven years, one playoff win in the second seven years.
Speaker 2 (28:11):
Well, I'm a little oh, go ahead, I'm go ahead
and finished up. Yeah, no, no, I'm a little concerned
with the amount of games that have been like this
last week where they just don't have a shot. And
I took a look back, I mean, because that was
the one thing that I mean, Pete Carroll had a run. Now,
obviously it was a great football team, but he had
a run of over eighty games in a row where
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the Seahawks did not lose by more than one score
eighty games. I mean, we're talking about five full seasons
that they never lost by two scores. The Seahawks were
in every single football game for a half a decade,
then started to change a little bit. Twenty nineteen they
had three games, but then back in twenty twenty the
only one game, you know, Pete Carroll back again, only
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one game where they lost by two scores. Twenty twenty
one was the Russell Wilson finger. Kind of this gross
weird seven and ten season. They had five that year,
but then twenty twenty two they only had two. Twenty
twenty three they had four, which may have kind of
prompted getting Pete out of there. Well, they've lost five
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already this year by two or more scorers. So the
lack of competitiveness in some of these games is concerning
to me. And then the second number that's concerning to
me is zero point eight six. Zero point eighty six, Hugh,
is the amount of points the Seattle Seahawks average on
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their opening drive. There is not an offensive coordinator in
the history of football that, if you offered them a
deal out of court, I will give you one point.
You are guaranteed to score one point. Ryan Grubb or
any other OC at the end of your first drive,
would you take it. There's not one OC in the
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history of football that would ever say yes. But the
Seahawks should take it this year because one is greater
than zero point eighty six. It's been a frustration, man.
Speaker 7 (30:06):
Yeah, well certainly the offense is a little bit more confounding,
you know. By the way, just a thought on the
defensive improvement going into the Green Bay game Seattle. Since
the Buffalo game, Seattle was number one in terms of
fewest points allowed. Now they go out and, you know,
give up thirty points. So now there's there's still their
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fourth to two points at seven point teen point three,
two points worse than than number one. Who's Philadelphia in
that sman, so they but but there was a period
there where there were number one in the NFL for
a few weeks, no question, since well the buye was
after the Ram game, so it actually it actually transpired
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since the Buffalo game, because that was a bad game
on defense.
Speaker 2 (30:53):
But isn't part of that San Francisco, the Jets, the
Rams and the Cardinals twice though, I mean isn't isn't
part And then then you go play a real offense
and they put thirty up on you.
Speaker 7 (31:03):
Yeah, well, I think with the rams and and if
you if you take the rams, uh, now that Seattle
only surrendered thirteen points in the first four quarters, right
because they had an overtime touchdown they allowed, and then
they had a one hundred and five yard pick six
by by Gino that that shouldn't be counted. And in
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the stat that I'm giving you, by the way, I'm
looking at this the NFL's stat portal, it's I'm looking right.
It's a D D E F p A. What does
that mean? Defensive points allowed? That means that that eliminates
all special teams. Because if you just go on a
standard like ESPN and you know, search a couple and
you say, okay, points allowed and blah blah blah, well
that's the entire football team. What I just described is
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the defense? What is the defense? And and and it
was it was a figure that, as we've talked about before,
that Mike McDonald was in the second half of twenty
twenty two, his first year at Baltimore, the Ravens were
number one in the NFL in that again defensive points allowed, right,
and then number one in the NFL for all of
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twenty twenty three. So for year and a half, he
he was the architect of the of the best defense
in football. And he was somewhat following that. Now, you know,
it was a setback the other night, and again how
much well, how much, Well, we're just you know.
Speaker 2 (32:26):
You got a good find out. That's a good you got.
Speaker 7 (32:29):
A really good offense coming in here with you know,
I think the best receiver in pro football, and JJ
can do it all. And uh, you know, on one level,
it's going to be fun to watch a guy with
that type of well rounded game. By the way, he's
twenty percent in the slot. DK metcalf is thirteen percent
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in the slot. I'd like to ramp up DK's slot
reps up towards twenty Yeah, what's that.
Speaker 2 (32:58):
Up towards twenty is?
Speaker 7 (33:00):
Uh yeah, twenty at least, I mean ceedee Lamb had
almost identical slot. Now I understand the body profile and
the skill set. You know, you say, dk' is an
X a classic accent. You know, he's the he's the
wide receiver and I get that, and he does a
good job of of drawing that double coverage, which opens
up things for Jackson Smith and Jig but and others.
But but, uh, you know, the offensive line is just
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remains uh, you know, it just remains an issue. And
and and the frustration for me watching the Green Bay
game was knowing that Brian and Brian Gooden coust I
have to really hesitate because I don't want the station.
Speaker 2 (33:39):
We gotta run to a break. Can I can I
get you? Can I get you? A hold on that thought?
And uh, until we got we got textimonials come up.
We gotta run to a break. If you have a
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you gotta go when you can go, you gotta go
and the getting's good or do you think he is what?
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Speaker 4 (01:50):
Thank you, Dick. I hope you're doing well.
Speaker 2 (01:52):
I'm doing well. I am doing very well. I'm doing
better than our previous host on the radio station heard
about that, Yes, yes, so our friend had.
Speaker 4 (02:02):
I didn't click on it.
Speaker 5 (02:04):
I saw because I follow KJR on ash or whatever,
and I was like, God, that sounds like something I
could use for my show. And I didn't click on
it or anything, but so I was glad to hear
that it was going to be addressed here.
Speaker 4 (02:19):
Yes, yes, well he's up there.
Speaker 2 (02:21):
Big news up there is Jake Dickert has flown the
coup from Pullman and headed three thousand miles east to
the college football superpower that is the Wake Forest Demon
Deacons and Ian earlier on today, actually before, he couldn't
wait to get on the air till twelve, so he
actually went on at like seven point thirty this morning
(02:43):
with our morning show. Oh really yes, and said the following.
Speaker 6 (02:47):
He took a job, an easy way out at the
worst ACC football program and arguably one of the four
or five worst Power four programs in the country. I
understand it. I've got zero respect for him. He's a liar,
he's a snake, and he's a puke. And that's all
I have to say about him today.
Speaker 2 (03:09):
A liar, a snake, and a puke. I think I've
been called those three things at some point in my life,
but not I don't think of the same sentence. I'm
certain that nobody's called me those things in the same sentence.
Speaker 5 (03:18):
Now, are there similar sentiments amongst the Kougs all around
the country? Is for ness kind of the voice of
the frustrated kug Or.
Speaker 2 (03:27):
Is Yes, Forness is the pied piper of Cougarnation.
Speaker 5 (03:31):
But does he have kind of a skin in the
game against Dickert? He always a Dickert guy, and now
he's upseest.
Speaker 2 (03:39):
Yes, yes, he had Dickert on like a month ago.
Speaker 4 (03:43):
Got it Okay?
Speaker 5 (03:43):
So he's like that booster at Arizona and Tucson when
Jedfish left and was like, I.
Speaker 4 (03:50):
Thought you were my friend. And that's why I've.
Speaker 5 (03:53):
Kept Roa McMillan, and I've kept no off of feet out.
Speaker 4 (03:58):
You'll pray for.
Speaker 2 (04:02):
That is exactly right. And I guess you know something
I were on with Wilner yesterday and I asked Wilner
straight up before we knew any of this, I said,
basically to the fact that the statement of is Jake
Dickerck really gonna stay here in twenty twenty five? I
mean I thought he was. I just assumed he was
going to be gone, And John said, well, there's gonna
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be a lot of jobs open next year. He kind
of felt like he was gonna be there for one
more year and then be there in twenty twenty five.
But I mean there are some Cougar fans that had,
I guess, delusions not only that Jake was going to
be here for twenty twenty five, but he was going
to lead the Cougars proudly back into the PAC twelve
in twenty twenty six and beyond. And I just I guess,
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I just don't know where that belief was coming from.
Speaker 5 (04:51):
It's interesting, do you want to start talking about it
on the micro or the macro whatever you wanted to Well,
there's a few different ways we're can approach this. I
mean in the small sphere of the Furness's of the world, right,
he knows all about it. He knows every single person involved.
Speaker 4 (05:08):
And I'm not.
Speaker 5 (05:10):
I don't know the guy. It's not like he's going
to put me on his show or anything. I'm not
going to attack him. But when I analyze USC football
very often some of the most obvious things aren't obvious
to me because I'm a little too close to it.
It's hard to see the forest for the trees when
you do it every day and everybody expects you to
have a take, and everywhere you go somebody says, well
(05:31):
what do you think about this or that? So I
understand the knee jerk reaction of being upset. The other
part is, I mean Jake Dickard came there to coach
with Rolovich, right right. I mean, if you think back,
you know, he came there to coach with Rollovich and
under a different a whole different landscape of college football
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and the PAC twelve and a different ad. So all
these years later he's the head coach, and good for him.
He's made it a success for himself to where somebody
else would offer him a job. He's gone through the
ousting of the conference, that weird embarrassing Pac twelve media day,
like half boner thing we did in the Bellagio in
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Vegas over the summer, trying to piggyback on the Big
twelve on the mountain west of all things. I mean,
he's been through all that stuff, different ads. He had
cam Ward come, he had cam Ward leave, same with
the OC, same with our buckle, the new OC. You know,
there's been a lot of turnover, and through it all,
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I think he's been a pretty great pullman stalwart.
Speaker 4 (06:41):
But I'm the same as you.
Speaker 5 (06:43):
I didn't expect the feel that I have calling their
games and talking to him and talking about how everybody
reevaluates everything at the end of the year felt a
lot like Jonathan Smith at Oregon State last year. So
that is the the micro level of it. The macro
level of it is, who wants to deal with what
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the hell's going on at Pullman? I mean, who wants
to deal with that at this point?
Speaker 4 (07:09):
I mean I and.
Speaker 2 (07:11):
They just had to two million dollar offer report. I
mean Ian talked about our show today. He heard that
there was two million dollars put up for John Mattere
and that wasn't good enough to keep John Mattiere in Pullman.
So it's like, but we knew too.
Speaker 5 (07:24):
I mean, look, we were doing the game we did.
I did two Washington State games I think down the stretch,
one of which they survived, another one they did it.
Speaker 2 (07:32):
How many people were there, Uh, not a lot.
Speaker 5 (07:34):
Well, it wasn't at Martin, it was it was way
deep in New Mexico.
Speaker 4 (07:38):
Got we did. If it wasn't Martin, it would have
been me. It wouldn't have been me, right.
Speaker 5 (07:42):
That was the the CW people that's picked up those
those PAC twelve games between Oregon State and Washington State
and when they played each other, and next year they're
gonna play each other twice because nobody gets after each
other like the Pack twelve football. But I saw them
down the stretch and a whole bunch, and look, we
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were already whispering to each other and under our breath,
this Materier guy's out of here, right, And they weren't.
They weren't all in on Matier when the year started.
His success surprised them. Now that that our buckle guy
is going to Oklahoma as the OC, I'm sure it's
not that well kept of a secret that Mateer is
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probably going to follow him, and he'll probably make maybe
more than the two million they were offering him in Pullman.
Either way, nobody likes this. Nobody really likes the way
things are right now. We have to be headed for
change in college football. But at the same time, I
didn't talk about somebody offering Matier a million dollars during
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the game because we just called the game. And this
is what happened to me and the people in Corvallis.
Like last year, I had an Oregon State game early
in the year and Mike Parker, our friend in Corvallis,
their play by play guy the Joe Beaver radio show.
We all know it called me up and they wanted
to talk like it was a game week, you know,
(09:08):
and they wanted to talk about all this and what
do you think is going to happen? And we're taking
these guys to court, these guys to court, and I
was like, you know, guys, I gotta be honest. I'm
not following it that closely. I can't give you a
great answer. We're in season. I'm worried about the kids
playing this game. I kind of want to talk about
And they were like, we're fighting for our lives, you know,
(09:29):
and they have to do your homework pros right.
Speaker 4 (09:31):
And they haven't called me back since. It's just like, guys,
you know, I was.
Speaker 5 (09:37):
Preaching from the mountaintop about how you guys were bleeding
out for the last fifteen years. This is not new.
The aftermath is ugly. It's interesting to sift through the
garbage and see what's left and what's next. But I mean,
the plight of the Beaves and the Koog's and everybody else,
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it's just like it's so tiresome at this point. Everybody's
going to leave at the end of every year and
expect the team to be totally different. You hope you
can hire a coach that can rally those troops. Nil
doesn't mean everything. The best most dominant college football team
I've seen in the last few years was Michigan, and
they weren't a heavy nil or transfer portal team under Harbaugh.
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They were a developed team and nobody could beat them.
The highest nil year in and year out is what
Texas A and L, and they don't win anything every year.
So I mean, there's somewhere between all of this, there's
somewhere to go. The Pac twelve does have money. They
like you said, they offered Materier two million dollars. It's
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a football program that people are going to pay attention to.
One person does not make it. The Washington State Cougars
had a great identity long before Jake Dickert decided to
be a defensive coordinator for Rolovich a few years back.
And I think that just the knee jerk, prisoner of
the moment reaction is a little bit it's a little
(11:05):
I don't know, maybe contrived.
Speaker 4 (11:07):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (11:08):
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Speaker 4 (11:09):
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How would you evaluate the job your boy, Jed the
Fish did this year.
Speaker 5 (11:22):
I guess it was kind of like I thought it
it would be. The job he did in Arizona was great.
You look at the schedule. It was not the toughest
ever Pac twelve schedule, and what was a very tough
year for the Pac twelve had they not had as
much success. The glaring topic would have been how he
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forgot what the overtime rules were against USC and kind
of blew that game when Fafieda was hot against Caleb
Williams and he couldn't figure out to start Forefida for
a long time, starting Jaydon DeLaura for quite some time,
So that there's a few and then of course the
Oklahoma team may beat in the in the bowl game
(12:05):
was a very different Oklahoma team and they'd been decimated
by the portal. So a lot of the positive stuff
that gave Brett Brennan the expectations that he had going
into this season was and I don't think he did
that great of a job with staffing. I think Dino
Babers was a bad hire and he had to fire
him and all that, But a lot of that stuff.
(12:25):
I think thinking Arizona was going to be as good
as we thought they were going to be in the
Big twelve was fools goal. Now as far as Fish goes,
I mean, what did he do?
Speaker 4 (12:34):
He did?
Speaker 5 (12:34):
He played, you know, five hundred football and the Big
ten yep. And what is what is going to make
Washington football great? Well, it's going to be the development
of the offensive and defensive fronts like it was under
Chris Peterson and under Kalin de Bore when the team
was making playoffs and beating Oregon consistently. And I don't
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I don't see anything in he had Fish's background as
an offensive play caller, as a quarterback guru, as a
guy who's here to smart you, throwing the ball with
an air raid quarterback and Will Rogers or a different
guy now that runs around a little bit more. I
don't see that drastically or dramatically changing to where it's
a satisfying year in and year out product for Washington
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football fans who deserve and expect ten to eleven wins
a year. So I mean, I wouldn't. I just kind
of shrugged my shoulders, like I said when they hired him,
Like all right, and that's kind of why the season
ended up. Now, they ran the ball a little bit
and Coleman ended up being good, and he brought him
up from Arizona, and there's always going to be bright spots.
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I'm not saying he's a bad coach. And he recovered
that program at Arizona and that was a dead program
and he deserves a bunch of credit for that because
a lot of people didn't think he could do it.
How does that translate into the dominant football that the
people at Washington need him to be, need him to coach,
to be there and be happy with him. I don't
know if it translates at all. Would I get like
(14:03):
jo just would be my blunt assessment.
Speaker 2 (14:05):
Well, the Belichick hiring certainly has tentacles all the way
over here on the West Coast because we're going to
lose our defensive coordinator as soon as the Sun Bowl's over.
And I think, well, I think Steve did a really
nice job, and maybe I'm overestimating it, and I think
he's going to be a loss, not that he's going
to be irreplaceable, but I just think Steve Belichick took
(14:27):
a bunch of good players and turned him into a
defense that was I mean statistically, and you look at
all the numbers, particularly passing stats. I mean, they were
a top twenty defense in America.
Speaker 5 (14:41):
Okay, I mean and a lot of that is based
on where you're playing, who you're playing, and what the
circumstances of that game was, and what was necessary for
you to win that game. I mean, you're not if
your defense isn't good enough to win at Rutgers. Like
that's my problem with USC too. It's like we're talking
about a blue blood football program. I mean, what are
we talking about. You lost at Minnesota and you lost
(15:03):
at Maryland, right, you know, you lost at Rutgers. We're
done talking, Okay, you know I mean the statistics Okay, great,
you know, yeah, they were good.
Speaker 4 (15:10):
Okay.
Speaker 5 (15:11):
It's a it's a guy's it's a famous coach's son.
Maybe he ends up being a great coach at North
Carolina one day, but I don't think the I mean,
who was the guy. It was Johnny Patron. He was
doing it with an Arizona right re he reuh reinvigorated
that guy's career after almost going all the way down
into the depths with Steve Sarkisian. Well, I guess overall,
(15:32):
I don't think vicious defensive coordinator is going to tell
the tale about what kind of program it is going forward.
Although maybe Belichick is a is a special coach. Uh,
we'll find out in the coming years, because I guess
he's the coach in waiting in Chapel Hill supposedly.
Speaker 2 (15:49):
I don't know if it's in writing, but it's it's
certainly understood, no question about it. Petros Papaek is joining
us the Heisman Trophy presentation. I stayed up by. I
watched their other reruns of that and stop did you
Did you stop.
Speaker 4 (16:02):
Watching that years ago? Did you? Well?
Speaker 5 (16:04):
I did, because you know, it's become so uncomfortable. You know,
ESPN has stretched.
Speaker 2 (16:09):
It out to an hour hour Oh god, so you know,
they got to talk.
Speaker 5 (16:12):
To everybody's parents and it's super uncomfortable, and nobody's comfortable
being on camera. It's a room full of people, but
no one's talking because it's on live TV.
Speaker 4 (16:23):
It's just so weird and creepy. It's just, you know,
and you're just you were.
Speaker 5 (16:29):
Worried when Charles White was alive. You're worried he was
gonna scream or pass out or attack somebody.
Speaker 4 (16:34):
You know, it's it's uncomfortable.
Speaker 2 (16:37):
Well, the voting itself though, Should we have the voting
in January after all this is over, because I mean
some of these teams could play you know, Cam's Skataboo
for example, or astingety. They can play three more games
if you're a if you're on a Clemson team, you
can play four more football games following the Heisman Trophy
present days. And that doesn't seem like an accurate way
(16:59):
to do you have somebody be the best player in
college football.
Speaker 5 (17:03):
No, And that's I mean, the award is so weird
and stilted, just like the rest of our sport. It's
based in tradition, and a lot of that tradition doesn't
hold anymore, like the dates, and the other part of
it is who votes. I mean, it's so heavily waited
on the Eastern seaboard because that's where college football started.
(17:24):
I mean, there's a reason it says Champions of the
West in the Michigan fight song.
Speaker 4 (17:31):
You know that was.
Speaker 5 (17:32):
Pretty far west. You know Red Grange when he was
playing at Illinois. I mean, that was considered to be
way out there in the in the in the country
for these Grantlin Rice types to go right about. So,
I mean there's a lot of that, and I mean
the other who's voting, that's another thing. And everybody just
gets caught up in the sexiness of it. And nobody
(17:53):
on the East Coast is staying up till two in
the morning to watch Ashton Genty run the ball against UNLV,
and really he appreciates how good of a defense U
and LV had this year and all that different stuff.
But you know, I don't really begrudge it because it
is whatever. I mean, it's not a real award. It's
run by an athletic club. It would literally be like
(18:14):
if you and I back in the day at an
Elks club and like the twenties were like you know
what I say, Deck, I'd like to say somebody being
award one of these great young men that plays the football,
you know. I mean, it's like that's that's what the
Heisman Trophy is, and it's evolved into this thing and
there's great lore and anybody who's won the Tisman Trophy
has been a spectacular transcendent college football, right, you know.
(18:37):
I mean, so we're splitting hairs when we get to
the top of it. For me, if a running back
goes for over two thousand yards in the way gent did,
and I saw a lot of it intimately, and I
feel the same way. I felt the same way twice
other two other times this modern era. I felt that
way about Toby Gerhart, and I felt that way about Christian.
Speaker 2 (18:57):
McCaffrey, all three West Coast guys because they didn't get
because they were on the West Coast.
Speaker 5 (19:01):
Well, And that's real hard. I mean, the only guys
that have won. I mean, you had Mariota win because
of the Nike backing, but it's really hard to get
that Heisman trophy unless you're a USC guy, yep, on
the West Coast. I mean, who do we got? We
got Gary Beban from Uclites, Terry Baker from my Beeves,
you know, I mean one hundred years ago, and then
(19:22):
who else Marshall Falk should have won. It couldn't because
he's a West Coast guy. Everybody and Jim Plunkett excuse me,
from Stanton in my father's era, and everybody else is
a USC guy. And there's been don't You can't tell
me that there hasn't been other guys that aren't deserving
and all this time. But I hate to just make
(19:43):
it simple and point to the bias. But I think
it's pretty simple. But hey, Colorado's pretty West coast too,
even though that was a national story and Travis Hunter
did have a great year, so congratulations to everybody involved.
Speaker 2 (19:55):
Yeah, my map here shows that Colorado is actually more
west than Michigan, so you know, it's the best player
in the West. Hey, before we let you go, thoughts
on the bar. Are you excited about the playoffs or
is it kind of take it?
Speaker 4 (20:07):
You are?
Speaker 2 (20:08):
Okay?
Speaker 4 (20:08):
Good?
Speaker 5 (20:08):
Well, you see what it's like. I mean, I don't
think it took any of the lore away from college football.
I mean we're talking about Washington State. Hell, I was
doing like a Washington State at New Mexico game in
November and there's like three people in the stands and
it's three degrees outside and it has playoff implication.
Speaker 4 (20:25):
Right yeah, and it does, you know, and it did.
Speaker 5 (20:28):
So that's an amazing thing for for I mean, I'm
gonna call the game regardless, but it's an amazing thing
to have those things coming to play on so many
more games. And I don't feel like it watered down
the product at all. So I'm looking forward to it.
I can't wait to see the state of Indiana catch
fire when Notre Dame and the Hoosiers clash soon here.
Speaker 2 (20:51):
Absolutely, I mean that'll that'll be fun.
Speaker 4 (20:54):
I think. I don't know.
Speaker 2 (20:55):
I just think the only team, the only underdog I
think that has a legitimate chance to win, is Tennessee.
Are you with me? Or is there somebody?
Speaker 4 (21:01):
Is there?
Speaker 5 (21:03):
The college sports and the young people and traveling and
girlfriends and the portal. I mean, that's the beauty of
our sport, not just the hash marks, which create a
lot of chaos, but the beauty is that young people
are not as mentally solid as pro football players, and
that creates real football chaos and real football excitement and uncertainty.
(21:27):
So I think, yeah, I don't think it's going to
be chalk at all. I think it's going to be
a damn circus, just like college football is in general.
Speaker 2 (21:33):
That's that's the way we want it. Petro is always
a pleasure. It's great when I get a chance to
talk to you. You have a wonderful holiday season with
the Papadakas family.
Speaker 4 (21:41):
Save to you, Dick, God bless you guys. Take care.
Speaker 2 (21:43):
Sounds good. Petros papadakas brought to you each week by
Sweet James. We'll bring you back to the fold next
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Speaker 1 (21:53):
Live from the R and R Foundation Specialists Broadcast Studio.
Now back to Softie and Dick on your home for
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Speaker 2 (22:10):
We have breaking news. Anders, we knew world of the
Seattle Kraken Ron France has been busy on the telephone.
Is that what you're telling me?
Speaker 1 (22:18):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (22:18):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (22:19):
It seemed like Dan was a little koy when we
talked to him, maybe knowing this would go down.
Speaker 2 (22:23):
I'm sure he probably did when we were when we
were talking. But we have found out in the last
half hours since we talked to Dan Bilsma, what have
we found out? And the krack and have made a trade.
Speaker 3 (22:32):
They are trading defenseman Will Borgan a third round pick
and a sixth round pick in return for Capo CaCO,
who was a forward formerly of the New York Rangers.
Twenty three years old, second overall pick in twenty nineteen.
But Will Borgan was going to be a free agent
after this year. So they kind of cashed in on
him with plus a couple draft picks, which Ian mentions
(22:55):
to me they were already at the max any team
could have anyway, so it's good to kind of get
those often. Kaco still lost some upside. I think it
was a little crowded for him in the forward room
in New York. So I think this is a good
trade for the crack And I think he's gonna step
right into your top six and still twenty three years old,
so I hope he can kind of find it a
little bit here.
Speaker 2 (23:12):
Well, it's a good thing about Hugh Millen because nobody
knows Coppocco more than Hugh Millan, and he can break down,
break down the train for us. But Hugh is back
with Uckey. Do that, Hackey. But there is one thing
that you can break down for us, and that is football.
And I'm reading a piece from Bob Candota today Hugh
entitled are the Seahawks better than last year? Here is
(23:35):
what the numbers show? And you know, I'm not going
to read all the numbers, but I'll kind of just
give you a general impression of how they compare to
last year. I mean, points per game, almost the same
points allowed, almost the same yards per play as almost identical.
Penalties are worse, turnovers are worse. There are a few
things that are better, particularly the run defense the second
(23:57):
half of the season, But you know, all in all, look,
I mean, if you put all the numbers in a
blender and say which was better, it is almost identical
to last year overall. So what do your eyes tell you?
I mean, this team decided, this franchise decided. Jody Allen
decided that enough was enough, was enough? We need, for
(24:20):
the first time in over a decade, a complete overhaul
of the football process other than John Schneider. And what
do you think as far as the reviews thus far
through the first fourteen games to compare to what we
saw last year in the last couple of years of
peak here.
Speaker 7 (24:36):
Well, first of all, I wouldn't, at least in my
own way of analysis. I don't think I'm comparing apples
to apples, just say year over year. Because the Seahawks
under Carrol that was the culmination, and I understand their
changes on both sides of the of the ball in
terms of schematics, but an overall philosophy had not taking place.
(25:01):
So I think there was much more of a of
a change offensively, certainly defensively, and so I personally would
expect there to be a little bit of a step back.
You know, you'd graft the stock market, you know. You
know sometimes you know, Tuesday you go down, you know,
but by Friday, you know, you're up over the week,
And so I would expect something like that. So I
(25:24):
look at the defense, and I'm particularly interested in the
improvement that we that that Seattle's made.
Speaker 5 (25:32):
Now.
Speaker 7 (25:32):
Of course they had a setback against Green Bay, but
I think that they've been a significantly improved defense since
the Buffalo game. And then offensively, I look at and
and I just feel like they're, you know, bringing a
butter knife to a gunfight because of the offensive line.
And until the offensive line is fixed, I just feel
(25:56):
like it's not only pulling the offense down. I think
it's pulling the whole team down. And that's why I
guess there's promos going about my frustration. As as vocalized
on Monday, uh I was specifically talking about the interception
in the red zone that Gino had, and certainly I'll
say this Geno was the number one culprit.
Speaker 4 (26:18):
On that play.
Speaker 7 (26:19):
I'm not absolving Gino. But if you're just going through
the roster and you say okay, or the lineup on
that play and say who gets who gets minus? Charles
Cross gets a minus for his block on the way
too quick a penetration. Zach Scharburney uh had had you know,
he gets a minus on his blitz pick up. I
give a minus two uh to fant the tight end
(26:39):
on in his routing, flattened it out uh in the
possibly a minus for Tyler Lockett.
Speaker 4 (26:47):
He was too deep.
Speaker 7 (26:48):
Either either Tyler Lockett gets a minus on that or
Ryan Grubb gets a minus on that because the spacing
was poor. So uh, you know. And and my point
was the detail matter. But it's also needs to be
recognized that more so on the offensive side of the ball,
it takes time for the the details to marinate and
(27:11):
to bake and so that everybody understands it and can
play fast with the details. When I coach, you say, well,
it's just high school, but it's all relative, and you know,
at some point you say, okay, this doesn't.
Speaker 4 (27:22):
Look like techniques.
Speaker 7 (27:23):
Wrong techniques wrong bloom, change the technique, and then at
some point you say okay, guys, you got the technique,
it's right, but you're stuck in peanut butter. You're playing
way too slow. So do what you did because now
you've got the technique.
Speaker 2 (27:37):
Right, play with freedom now.
Speaker 7 (27:40):
But now just go and and when you're thinking, you know,
your your four five becomes a four to seven real quick.
If you think too much, you got to be able
to react a little bit. So I would just, you know,
for all of these reasons, I would say, I don't
compare them apple to Apple to Apple. And even if
there is a setback, I'm okay with that because I
(28:00):
feel like they.
Speaker 2 (28:01):
Had kind of hit their lid.
Speaker 7 (28:03):
With Pete Carroll fourteen years, nine playoff wins in the
first seven years, one playoff win in the second seven years.
Speaker 2 (28:11):
Well, I'm a little oh, go ahead, I'm go ahead
and finished up. Yeah, no, no, I'm a little concerned
with the amount of games that have been like this
last week where they just don't have a shot. And
I took a look back, I mean, because that was
the one thing that I mean, Pete Carroll had a run. Now,
obviously it was a great football team, but he had
a run of over eighty games in a row where
(28:32):
the Seahawks did not lose by more than one score
eighty games. I mean, we're talking about five full seasons
that they never lost by two scores. The Seahawks were
in every single football game for a half a decade,
then started to change a little bit. Twenty nineteen they
had three games, but then back in twenty twenty the
only one game, you know, Pete Carroll back again, only
(28:53):
one game where they lost by two scores. Twenty twenty
one was the Russell Wilson finger. Kind of this gross
weird seven and ten season. They had five that year,
but then twenty twenty two they only had two. Twenty
twenty three they had four, which may have kind of
prompted getting Pete out of there. Well, they've lost five
(29:16):
already this year by two or more scorers. So the
lack of competitiveness in some of these games is concerning
to me. And then the second number that's concerning to
me is zero point eight six. Zero point eighty six, Hugh,
is the amount of points the Seattle Seahawks average on
(29:37):
their opening drive. There is not an offensive coordinator in
the history of football that, if you offered them a
deal out of court, I will give you one point.
You are guaranteed to score one point. Ryan Grubb or
any other OC at the end of your first drive,
would you take it. There's not one OC in the
(29:57):
history of football that would ever say yes. But the
Seahawks should take it this year because one is greater
than zero point eighty six. It's been a frustration, man.
Speaker 7 (30:06):
Yeah, well certainly the offense is a little bit more confounding,
you know. By the way, just a thought on the
defensive improvement going into the Green Bay game Seattle. Since
the Buffalo game, Seattle was number one in terms of
fewest points allowed. Now they go out and, you know,
give up thirty points. So now there's there's still their
(30:30):
fourth to two points at seven point teen point three,
two points worse than than number one. Who's Philadelphia in
that sman, so they but but there was a period
there where there were number one in the NFL for
a few weeks, no question, since well the buye was
after the Ram game, so it actually it actually transpired
(30:50):
since the Buffalo game, because that was a bad game
on defense.
Speaker 2 (30:53):
But isn't part of that San Francisco, the Jets, the
Rams and the Cardinals twice though, I mean isn't isn't
part And then then you go play a real offense
and they put thirty up on you.
Speaker 7 (31:03):
Yeah, well, I think with the rams and and if
you if you take the rams, uh, now that Seattle
only surrendered thirteen points in the first four quarters, right
because they had an overtime touchdown they allowed, and then
they had a one hundred and five yard pick six
by by Gino that that shouldn't be counted. And in
(31:27):
the stat that I'm giving you, by the way, I'm
looking at this the NFL's stat portal, it's I'm looking right.
It's a D D E F p A. What does
that mean? Defensive points allowed? That means that that eliminates
all special teams. Because if you just go on a
standard like ESPN and you know, search a couple and
you say, okay, points allowed and blah blah blah, well
that's the entire football team. What I just described is
(31:50):
the defense? What is the defense? And and and it
was it was a figure that, as we've talked about before,
that Mike McDonald was in the second half of twenty
twenty two, his first year at Baltimore, the Ravens were
number one in the NFL in that again defensive points allowed, right,
and then number one in the NFL for all of
(32:11):
twenty twenty three. So for year and a half, he
he was the architect of the of the best defense
in football. And he was somewhat following that. Now, you know,
it was a setback the other night, and again how
much well, how much, Well, we're just you know.
Speaker 2 (32:26):
You got a good find out. That's a good you got.
Speaker 7 (32:29):
A really good offense coming in here with you know,
I think the best receiver in pro football, and JJ
can do it all. And uh, you know, on one level,
it's going to be fun to watch a guy with
that type of well rounded game. By the way, he's
twenty percent in the slot. DK metcalf is thirteen percent
(32:53):
in the slot. I'd like to ramp up DK's slot
reps up towards twenty Yeah, what's that.
Speaker 2 (32:58):
Up towards twenty is?
Speaker 7 (33:00):
Uh yeah, twenty at least, I mean ceedee Lamb had
almost identical slot. Now I understand the body profile and
the skill set. You know, you say, dk' is an
X a classic accent. You know, he's the he's the
wide receiver and I get that, and he does a
good job of of drawing that double coverage, which opens
up things for Jackson Smith and Jig but and others.
But but, uh, you know, the offensive line is just
(33:23):
remains uh, you know, it just remains an issue. And
and and the frustration for me watching the Green Bay
game was knowing that Brian and Brian Gooden coust I
have to really hesitate because I don't want the station.
Speaker 2 (33:39):
We gotta run to a break. Can I can I
get you? Can I get you? A hold on that thought?
And uh, until we got we got textimonials come up.
We gotta run to a break. If you have a
question for you, fire away right now. Four nine four
five one. Littill do a little ask Q on teestimonials
and your take on the Jake Dickard situation. I mean,
is it just, hey man, you gotta go where you
you gotta go when you can go, you gotta go
and the getting's good or do you think he is what?
(34:01):
What did he n call him a snake? Four nine
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