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March 24, 2025 35 mins
In the first hour, Dave Softy Mahler, Dick Fain, and Jackson Felts discuss the start of the Mariners season on Thursday and excitement for it, then react to the first four days of the NCAA Tournament and the lack of a Cinderella team, then listen to Fun with Audio.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Well, here we go.

Speaker 2 (00:02):
It's uh, it's baseball week. I'm fired up for Thursday night.
I really am excited. And I can tell that you
guys don't give it damn at all about first.

Speaker 3 (00:12):
I just can't believe after the weekend we just had that, that's.

Speaker 4 (00:16):
What you're leading with.

Speaker 1 (00:17):
I'm ready to go. Man.

Speaker 2 (00:18):
We got we are, we got Mariner baseball. I mean,
what matters locally, Jackson? What do you think matters locally?
The Sportsman's in Seattle? The NC Double A tournament? Yeah,
with Gonzaga now out of it, I mean, first of all,
thank you to Arizona doing the lord's work just like
Ohio State did and the Rose bull dispatching of the
Oregon Ducks. So I do have, I do have a
little bit of affinity for them. I will I will

(00:39):
pull for them against the Blue Devils in the Sweet
sixteen because of what they did for us and get
rid of Oregon. So is it more locally, Jackson? Is
it more the NC Double A tournament or is it
more chatter and more people fired up excited looking forward
to Thursday night against the Age.

Speaker 5 (00:53):
And I'm excited, but definitely I think looking to Thursday,
but like The problem, SAFTI is the fact that they
like and for me, they lost to me last year
in the second half of last year, and then they
could have brought me back if they had done something
in the off season, but they did nothing. So like
you lost me last year, Mariners, and I'm staying I'm
still just drifting out like Tom Hanks on, you know,

(01:14):
yelling Wilson yelling to me, please get an offensive peace.

Speaker 2 (01:17):
Right, Okay, No, I mean that's totally fair. I mean, look,
I'm not saying you guys should feel a certain way.
You feel whatever you want. I mean to me, there's
always just something about and maybe it's just you know,
the eternal optimism that comes along with opening day every
single year. You know, it's like you mentioned the Castaway movie, right,
remember the Remember the scene and Castaway.

Speaker 1 (01:36):
Where he says this could work.

Speaker 2 (01:38):
He grabs like the bamboo and wants to make a
ship out of it, right, or a little yacht or whatever,
a little a little boat to you know, float his
ass to freedom.

Speaker 1 (01:45):
Every single year.

Speaker 2 (01:46):
And my wife is getting on me every year telling
me how stupid I am. You're just a big sucker.
The Mariners stink. Why do they do this to you.
I hate the Mariners. I hate baseball. She says that
to me, by the way, every single year, and then
every single Juni or July she looks at me and says, see,
I told you so, right, So she's smart. Well, look,
I just feel this way. I feel that we have

(02:09):
again an opportunity for a once in a generation pitching
staff with this baseball team that I agree with everything
you've said, Dick over the offseason.

Speaker 1 (02:18):
That there's a concern.

Speaker 2 (02:19):
There's a pit in my stomach that says, if those
guys let up just a little bit, this team is
going to be in big trouble, right, And the odds
are that eventually they will kind of regress a little bit.

Speaker 1 (02:29):
That's just human nature.

Speaker 2 (02:31):
And human nature also says that eventually these guys are
gonna get banged up, and look at this, George Kirby's
already on the il with a shoulder problem.

Speaker 4 (02:39):
Right.

Speaker 2 (02:39):
So I agree with all that stuff, but I just
I just want to maybe I'm just being a naive sucker,
and maybe it's just the optimist in me, which there's
not a big part of me that's optimistic about anything.
I think you guys know me enough by now, this
baseball team, with this pitching staff and the opportunity they've got,
and with the amount of guys that.

Speaker 1 (02:59):
Should be able to have a little bit of a
bounce back.

Speaker 2 (03:02):
I mean, do I expect Horay Polanco to be an
unbelievable player?

Speaker 1 (03:05):
No, I don't do.

Speaker 2 (03:06):
I expect him to hit better than two oh two
and have an OPS higher than six fifty one.

Speaker 1 (03:11):
Yes I do.

Speaker 2 (03:12):
Do I expect JP Crawford to be an MVP candidate
like he was two years ago when he was sixteenth
in the MVP voting.

Speaker 1 (03:19):
No, I don't do.

Speaker 2 (03:19):
I expect him to have better than a six twenty
five OPS this year and hit better than two oh two.

Speaker 1 (03:24):
Yes I do. Do I expect Julio to bounce back.
Yes I do. Do I think Matt Brash being healthy
the entire year.

Speaker 2 (03:30):
Which we haven't even seen by the way yet, could
that be a major difference maker for the bullpen.

Speaker 1 (03:36):
Yes, it could be.

Speaker 6 (03:37):
So.

Speaker 2 (03:38):
All those things are true. Everything you're saying about the
pitching staff regressing is true. But I just we we
we still have this opportunity with these five guys to
be great, and I just, god darn it, I'm really
just on my hands and knees, begging the sports gods
to make this the year it happens. So whatever, maybe
I'm just being a big sucker dick, Well, sure I am.

Speaker 3 (04:00):
I mean for me, two things can be true. I
can think that this team is going to be very
competitive in this week division and absolutely to recently be
a playoff contender, which will make me excited when the time.

Speaker 1 (04:12):
Guess.

Speaker 3 (04:14):
But I've got all these lists, have been you know,
watching basketball all week and long. I've got this list
of topics and NCUBA topics, I got a sonics topic,
i got NFL topics. The last thing on my list
that I'm thinking about until you walk into Jimmy's on
Thursday and it actually feels like baseball because we're sitting
at Jimmy's and there's people walking into the stadium next door.

(04:37):
That is finally when maybe the bug of baseball is
going to hit me. And it may not happen until
the first pitch at seven what'd you.

Speaker 1 (04:46):
Say seven o'clock? I think I got no idea.

Speaker 3 (04:49):
I mean, whatever, the first pitch, that's when I will
turn on the television and say, okay, Mariners, because I've
been fooled so many times before spring training baseball, and
I told myself this year, and I told you on
the air a month ago, I will not watch a
single pitch of spring training baseball because of the years

(05:10):
and decades that I have watched March baseball and gone,
oh my god, this guy looks great.

Speaker 4 (05:16):
That guy's the best shape of his life. This is
gonna be phenomenal, this is gonna be great, and forget it.

Speaker 3 (05:22):
Yeah, I'm not gonna do it until a pitch actually
means well.

Speaker 2 (05:24):
First of all, you just confirmed how much spring training
baseball you actually did watch.

Speaker 1 (05:30):
Because the Mariners stink in the Cactus League.

Speaker 2 (05:32):
They have the worst record, right, So everything I'm saying,
by the way, about the way I feel about this
team has nothing to do with what happened in March
at all, because they're horrible in March.

Speaker 1 (05:41):
And I'm a thousand percent with you.

Speaker 2 (05:43):
I learned a long time ago to stop putting any
stock and anything I see of any real relevancy in
regards to what it means for the regular season, in
spring training and in preseason football. My love for spring
training football or a spring training baseball, if there is
a love, which is probably too strong a word.

Speaker 1 (06:01):
My affinity for.

Speaker 2 (06:03):
Spring training baseball is only just about flipping on a
game and having it on TV and having some background noise,
seeing the sun here and the birds chirp.

Speaker 1 (06:11):
Black up. There was not a ton and I watched
probably three or four of them.

Speaker 2 (06:15):
By the way, for example, I was just in Arizona
over the weekend and we didn't go to one game.
We just played golf and hung out and watched basketball.
So I wasn't I wasn't motivated enough to get off
my ass and go watch these guys in person.

Speaker 1 (06:26):
And when we do go to spring training games.

Speaker 2 (06:28):
The reason why we didn't go this time, Dick, is
because typically what we'll do we'll get there about an
hour early, walk around, go to the cage, just check
it out, get some beers, go to the game, sit
there for an inning, get too hot, and leave.

Speaker 1 (06:40):
And that's what we typically do.

Speaker 2 (06:41):
So we just skipped it this year. So I mean,
I don't care what happened in spring training. Like I
heard the guys today, the Mollywap guy's talking about how
little Luke Rayley's played at first base, which I think
is none by the way, Polanco at third, Matt Brash
making his debut.

Speaker 1 (06:57):
I'm not talking about any of that stuff.

Speaker 2 (06:59):
I'm talking about the opportunity with Logan Gilbert, George Kirby,
Bryce Miller, Brian Wu, Louis Castillo, and Emerson Hancock and
then a bounce back year from Julio Rodriguez'm gonna bet
Hulo to win the MVP here at the emeral Quin Casino,
for I think it's like plus eighteen hundred to win
the MVP. He has a typical Julio year a year ago.
You're not getting those kinds of odds. So I'm gonna

(07:20):
throw a little bit of cash on him. But I
mean your attitude in Jackson's attitude, Look, I totally get it.

Speaker 1 (07:26):
I'm not gonna I mean, first of once, your opinion.
You have every right to. I'm not gonna take issue
at all with any of that stuff.

Speaker 6 (07:31):
I have.

Speaker 2 (07:32):
I absolutely, one thousand percent understand why you feel the
way you do. And that's the problem the Mariners have.
Like is the game even sold out on Thursday night?
I don't think it is sold out yet. I think
there's tickets available with Ticketmaster. I mean typically by now
the game is like you're done forget about it, So
I think they have a massive problem of trust with

(07:53):
their fan base.

Speaker 1 (07:54):
I've been saying this all offseason long.

Speaker 2 (07:56):
I told you guys, I thought last year, with the
way they wasted that roalation was among the worst things
they've ever done to their fan base. You know, we
should have been sitting there talking about playoff tickets in July,
you know, getting together with our buddies and having a
draft for who gets to go to what game and
finding out how we're gonna get the best deal on tickets.

Speaker 1 (08:13):
Instead, we had to sit.

Speaker 2 (08:14):
There and squirm like idiots all the way up until
the end and watch these guys fail again. So I
totally get it. I absolutely get it, and I think
the clock is ticking on to Poto. They come out
to a slow start in April, they're gonna hear it. Man,
if this offense comes out with a slow start, they're
gonna hear it from everybody and anybody. So I absolutely

(08:34):
totally get that. I'm just saying for me from my perspective.
You mentioned the Sonic topics, the NFL topics, the NCAA
basketball topic. It's the Monday of opening Day. We're three
days away from opening day, and I'm looking forward to
Thursday night. That's it for me.

Speaker 3 (08:48):
No, that's fair, that's fair. And I will get there.
I will get there, but hopefully not.

Speaker 1 (08:53):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (08:54):
I will get there, but not after this weekend. And
I would just you know, you want to talk Mariners.
I mean I put out today the athletic came out
with there. I know it's just fantasy, but fantasy baseball
and real baseball, particularly on the offensive side, mean a
little something. Is their numbers based right, and they offered
up their their top one hundred players at each position,
draftable players each position. Here's where the Mariners ranked at

(09:17):
these positions. And now Jackson, do we have to Yes,
you want to talk baseball, let's talk some baseball.

Speaker 4 (09:23):
So Jackson, how many teams in Major League Baseball? Okay, thirty?

Speaker 3 (09:28):
So to be the worst, at the very worst, you
should have the thirtieth place one.

Speaker 4 (09:33):
Right, because you wouldn't assume that a team might have
a backup that's better than your starter.

Speaker 3 (09:39):
This is the list of the twenty twenty five Fantasy
baseball rankings by position by the Atlantic.

Speaker 4 (09:44):
The Mariners at first base.

Speaker 3 (09:46):
Yeah, thirty fourth, right, second base forty, first, shortstop fortieth,
third base forty fourth, and designated hitter fifty six. That
is more than half of their starting offense. That is
backup potential. Why do you think I was so pissed
off over the offseason?

Speaker 7 (10:04):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (10:05):
Why do you think I was so pissed off at
the five twenty bar and Grill the day they gave
Hore Polonka a one.

Speaker 1 (10:09):
Year, seven point five million dollar deal, which on.

Speaker 2 (10:11):
Its own is okay fine if I do other stuck
do something else right? I mean it's like, you know, hey,
if you want to give me a pair of socks
for Christmas, that's okay.

Speaker 1 (10:21):
Can I have a brand new TV? Too?

Speaker 2 (10:23):
Or a trip to Hawaii? Can I have something else
on top of that? I mean, look, I need no underwear,
There's no question about that. For all of that, I
can I have a pair of shoes on top of
that or maybe some new jeens? I mean look, I
mean I I totally get it, man. And by the way,
I do think the Mariners will be better at shortstop
than would you say, forty fourth?

Speaker 1 (10:40):
Is that right? With JP Crawford power? And they should
be better at third base.

Speaker 2 (10:44):
But look, not to keep mentioning the Moleywop guys because
their egos are big enough.

Speaker 1 (10:48):
Let's be honest with you, man.

Speaker 2 (10:49):
We all know Nathan Bishop and Chris Crawford well known egomaniacs, Okay,
and they said it themselves and they're exactly right. This
infield on paper right now stinks. It stinks on paper.
So there's a lot of pressure on JP Crawford to
get back to where he was a couple of years ago,
a lot of pressure on Ray Polocko to live up
to that dally signed last year coming off the knee injury.

Speaker 1 (11:12):
Ton of pressure.

Speaker 2 (11:13):
There, a lot of pressure on a Rose Arena to deliver,
a lot of pressure on robe Less.

Speaker 1 (11:17):
To kind of keep it going.

Speaker 2 (11:19):
And let's face it, there's again a buttload of pressure
on Julio Rodriguez to carry this offense and cal Rawley.

Speaker 1 (11:25):
So I get all that stuff. I totally get all
that stuff.

Speaker 2 (11:28):
I do think though, the one thing that you said,
and if I had to bet that the Mariners were
in the playoffs, I probably would bet yes. Because of
the division they play in. That is the biggest positive
they have going right now, besides the pitching staff, and
maybe even a bigger positive, by the way, is the
division that they play in now.

Speaker 3 (11:47):
It's not fifty to fifty that they make it statistically,
it's like thirty four lives right.

Speaker 2 (11:51):
But I've got and this is what really pissed me
off today. This is why I kind of started thinking
about this, Jackson. The Emerald Queen Casino has the regular
season win to posted now for the baseball season, they
have the Mariners over under at eighty four and a half.
Can you imagine living in a world with Logan Gilbert,
Luis Castillo, Bryce Miller, George Kirby, Brian wu Emerson Hancock

(12:14):
where somebody actually thinks the Mariners should win eighty four and.

Speaker 1 (12:18):
A half games with that pitching staff. I mean that
is pathetic, absolutely pathetic.

Speaker 2 (12:23):
That we live in a world where Vegas thinks they're
good for eighty four and a half shows you how
bad they think the offense is gonna be. By the way,
so the pitching staff again is going to carry the day.
I'm gonna bet the you over like I did a
year ago when I got screwed a year ago.

Speaker 4 (12:36):
Well, I need to sorry, Jackson, I need to correct
the record here. This is amazing. I'm on fangrafts right now.

Speaker 3 (12:41):
The Mariners, according to Fangrafts right now have the second
best odds in the entire American league to make the playoffs,
behind the New York Games.

Speaker 4 (12:51):
Yeah, at fifty.

Speaker 3 (12:52):
Nine point three percent. The Rangers are at fifty two
point eight, the Astros are at fifty two point one.
There are three teams in the Al West over fifty percent.

Speaker 2 (13:00):
What is that compared to last year? By the way,
meaning last year, was there a team the Yankees were
what again, you said sixty two? Like, was there a
team last year that was at seventy and a team
at sixty five?

Speaker 4 (13:11):
And the Seas? Yeah?

Speaker 2 (13:13):
I just wonder if that just goes to show you
how wide open the league really is, right, Like when
you when the second best odds to make the playoffs
or would you say fifty nine percent?

Speaker 4 (13:21):
Is that right?

Speaker 2 (13:22):
Yeah, when the second best odds are fifty nine percent,
do we have like eight, nine, ten teams that are
all bunched up?

Speaker 4 (13:29):
Last year? Right?

Speaker 3 (13:29):
The Astros were at eighty six, Yankees were at seventy
two yesterday? Are all a bunch of Mariners last year
were at sixty? They were actually higher last year at
this time than they are this year.

Speaker 2 (13:40):
So again, I mean that's not it's it's great that
you have the second best odds. Okay, Like, I mean,
who cares how many games you win as long as
you get in. Like, do you really care if you're
a Diamondback fan that you won was it eighty four
games and you made the World Series a couple of
years ago? No, you don't care. But it's that that that,
to me shows you how fricking I open this thing is.

(14:01):
And this is another and this is why my optimism
is actually a little bit higher. It's that it's been
because I think the league is there for the taking.
The Astros are taking a step back, the Yankees are
taking a step back. The league is absolutely, Jackson right
there for the taking. If these guys can just get
off their ass and play average offense, they're gonna have
a shot to do something they've never done before.

Speaker 5 (14:22):
And that's the crazy part, is that is that the
numbers and the chances and the odds, and this discussion
here is what it is because I mean, we all
know perceptions reality, and right now, the perception of this
baseball club is that they're just they're not even remotely
close to the playoffs.

Speaker 1 (14:37):
But you just said they have the second best pub.

Speaker 5 (14:38):
Exactly, and That's the thing is that it's wild, the
dichotomy between these two things, because they were in such
a good spot what even just what nine months ago,
I guess you'd say, right, and they just lost everyone
and then they just again not doing anything over the offseason. League.
You could have built on the good grace and just yes, Okay,
we had a tough three months, we cost us a playoff,

(14:59):
ber you will fight back, we'll retool, we'll get the
pieces needed to put us right back in June where
we were last June. Right, But they didn't do that,
and they just they continued to lose the fan base
and lose me as a fan, right when you could
have just set me up and said, you know what,
we screwed up for three months, we're gonna get back
because we are we are determined to be even better
than we were even at that point last June.

Speaker 1 (15:21):
And they just haven't done that.

Speaker 3 (15:22):
Well, even if they gave us just some lip service
and had some nursery moves to do that. But I mean,
I don't think there's a Mariner fan out there that
is believing what I'm saying right now that the New
York Yankees right five point four to win the World
Series and the Mariners at five point zero their second
behind the Yankees. Is there a Mariner fan that would
put twenty to one odds anywhere out there on the
Mariners to win the World Series?

Speaker 7 (15:43):
No?

Speaker 2 (15:43):
But I think it shows you how many people have
checked out. I think it shows you how many people
like you guys. I mean, you were just completely apathetic,
right or like I'm not watching spring training baseball, I'm
not paying attention. I mean, honestly, when I told Ian,
when I asked Ian and crosstalk, are you fired up
for Thursday Night? And he meant the Kraken, I think
there's a chance that he actually may have forgotten that

(16:03):
we're exactly, that we have a baseball game on Thursday exactly.
And I don't blame him, by the way, I think
there's a lot of people, Oh, we're playing Thursday night
for real. I think a lot of people don't even
know that. I mean people do know that, but not
as many. I think a lot of people have done
what you guys have done. They've completely checked out. But
then again, you go to websites like that and it's
just you know, I mean, some dork in a basement
somewhere with the hell.

Speaker 1 (16:24):
Pushing buttons on a computer.

Speaker 2 (16:26):
The perception about what people think this team is going
to be versus the reality of what Vegas and websites
like that think it.

Speaker 1 (16:34):
Is there is the reality is totally different.

Speaker 2 (16:40):
And it just shows you how many people have said
the hell with it, man, and they got to do
a good job of getting people back.

Speaker 1 (16:46):
I think it's gonna take a while too. It's gonna
take good weather.

Speaker 2 (16:49):
It's gonna take winning, it's gonna take exciting baseball, not
boring baseball, scoring some runs, some electricity at T Mobile Park.
They got to get these people back on board because
they've pushed him away. I totally hear you, and I
totally get it. We'll get a break, we'll talk some basketball.
Thank you to Arizona by the way, number one. Thank

(17:10):
you to Houston by the way, number two. That's what
I gotta say about it. We'll revisit all that next.

Speaker 1 (17:15):
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Speaker 1 (17:33):
All right, we're back here.

Speaker 2 (17:34):
The Emro Queen Casino Sweet sixteen odds are out. First
thing I noticed, by the way, about the odds for
the game starting on Thursday, let me ask you a question.
Biggest biggest spread on the board for the Sweet sixteen
starting on Thursday, Duke.

Speaker 1 (17:51):
Is tied with Florida. Auburn, Oh.

Speaker 2 (17:55):
Auburn is giving eight and a half against Michigan. Duke
is giving eight and a half against Arizona to Florida's
given six and a half against Maryland. By the way,
which I like Florida big time to cover that spread.
I think Maryland's gonna get killed by Florida. But what
I what my thought was is that there's no eleven
twelve point spread. There's no big time blowout coming from
Vegas's perspective. Eight and a half is the biggest spread

(18:19):
left on the board, by the way, this weekend. If
you look at the seedings, guys, of the teams left
in the NCAA tournament, there's only one team seated lower
than six, and that's Arkansas and they're from the SEC.

Speaker 1 (18:30):
For God's sakes.

Speaker 2 (18:31):
Everybody else is a sixth seed or higher, so not
having the Cinderella.

Speaker 1 (18:36):
Angle kind of really anymore. I mean I don't think.

Speaker 2 (18:38):
I mean, look, I mean, obviously Arkansas is a ten seed,
could be looked at, you know at this point as
a Cinderella. Maybe Michigan could be looked at as a Cinderella.

Speaker 4 (18:46):
Oh they won the Big Taen.

Speaker 1 (18:48):
Yeah, but you know, I mean again, they're not very good.
I mean, I don't know.

Speaker 2 (18:50):
I mean the point is, there's really nobody out there.
There's no you know, Sister Jean left in this thing.
There's no NC State left in this thing. There's no
Florida Atlantic, you know, left in this thing. Does that
bother us? Does it bother us that there's no real
Cinderella story left in the team. Makes for better basketball,
no question, But does it still bother you that there's
no storyline.

Speaker 1 (19:09):
That for me?

Speaker 5 (19:10):
Okay, I wish there was a Chicago Loyola. I wish
because that's always fun. I get it better basketball, Dick,
But like, I don't know. For me, I'm a casual
college basketball fan who gets really into it come this
time of year. I want that story. Even if my
bracket gets busted, I want that story. You guys are
got you. You know what we want to We just

(19:34):
wanted to ignore you, Jackson. You guys, Dick just made
an unbelievable point.

Speaker 1 (19:38):
Missed it. Sorry, I'm not gonna repeat that one. Go
ahead and finish your thoughts.

Speaker 5 (19:42):
Sorry, Simply I want that story in there, and even
if my bracket's busted, I miss having that story when
it's not there.

Speaker 4 (19:48):
Yeah, it'd be nice if there's one. I would agree.
If there's one, you can kind of wrap your arms around.

Speaker 3 (19:53):
But I'm excited for the you know, I'm excited for
the stretch run because Jackson, like we talked about on Friday,
this is the number the number one seeds are the
strongest of all time analytically, so we this, you know,
we said we don't think four number one seeds are
gonna get to the final four, but if there was
ever a year four number one seeds to get to

(20:13):
the final four would be this season and how epic
would the final four be?

Speaker 4 (20:18):
And Fox just announced this morning what did I learn
on Coward.

Speaker 3 (20:20):
Show the highest rated first two days the NCAA tournament
of all time.

Speaker 4 (20:28):
So people are watching.

Speaker 3 (20:30):
And then we'll have the weekend ratings here probably coming
out today or tomorrow, but first two days highest.

Speaker 4 (20:35):
Of all time.

Speaker 3 (20:36):
People are paying attention to it, and a lot of
reasons that people are paying attention to it. Look at
the blue bloods, right, Kentucky, Duke, Gonzaga, North Carolina War
a game, I mean the blue blood would.

Speaker 4 (20:49):
You wouldn't call Gonzaga?

Speaker 2 (20:52):
But not with Kentucky and Duke and all those other teams.
I mean a team of people watch Maybe I don't know.
I mean, if you're telling me that they get good
ratings and great, I believe you A thousand per time. Yeah,
but as far as blue as far as accomplishments, they're
not even No, no, I'm talking about ratings.

Speaker 1 (21:07):
Yeah, you call them a blue blood.

Speaker 2 (21:08):
I would never when I think of a blue blood,
I think of a team that's won national titles, that's
consistently playing for national championships, has a long history of
national championships.

Speaker 1 (21:18):
I would not put Gonzaga.

Speaker 4 (21:19):
I mean there's neither, would you.

Speaker 1 (21:20):
There's five or six?

Speaker 3 (21:21):
I mean there's North Carolina, Kentucky, Duke, Yukon. You have
to put in that in Kansas, yes, and then there's
the second group of five or ten teams and Gonzaga
is absolutely in there, even though they haven't won a Nationvills.

Speaker 2 (21:32):
Yeah, I just think for me, h, I think you're
right that the better teams in makes for better basketball,
no question about that. I mean, look at the spreads again.
I mean, Vegas doesn't think we're gonna have a lot
of blowouts.

Speaker 3 (21:42):
And you have familiar names too, because a Niel is
cheaping these players. And it's not just Cooper Flag and
the freshmen at Duke. There are players that are in.
Caleb Love is a household name in college basketball. He
was in the Final four three years ago well North Carolina,
so people know these a lot.

Speaker 1 (22:01):
I think from a ratings perspective, it's great.

Speaker 2 (22:03):
I think it's awesome when you have the Kings of
the Hill going after each other, when all the blue
bloods are going after each other. I've got different things
I root for. I was rooting hard against Oregon last night,
and I was rooting hard against Gonzaga over the weekend,
and I'm happy as hell that both those teams are none.
I wanted nothing to do with Gonzaga or Oregon in
the Sweet sixteen, So from that standpoint, I'm very very satisfied.

(22:24):
But I do agree with Jackson that part of what
makes the NCAA tournament the tournament is having a Cinderella story, right.
I Mean, there's a reason why the word Cinderella exists
because of underdogs. There's a reason why the saying goes
everybody loves the underdog, and there's no underdogs really left.
I mean BYU, I guess I mean Ole, Miss, Arkansas, whatever.
Maybe BYU would be the one team that if they

(22:45):
made a run and they beat who's BYU playing Alabama?
If they beat Alabama and made a run to the
Elite eight to face a team like Duke in the
national or the regional final, that.

Speaker 1 (22:56):
Would be considered maybe a team that people would root for.
But I'm with you.

Speaker 3 (23:00):
Still a big twelve team, now, yeah it is, but
it's not a blue blue right right.

Speaker 2 (23:04):
I mean they're they're the closest thing to a Cinderella
probably left in this tournament, to be totally honest with you,
And they are a big twelve team, But I think
of them as more of a whack team, right, because
that's the way you grew up with BYU. But not
having that Cinderella story, not having that, you know, unbelievable
image of a small school's fan base going bananas because
their team's making a run. Look, I can deal with it,

(23:26):
it's it's fine. I just don't want this to become
the norm. That's my point.

Speaker 3 (23:30):
I agree in it, and we and we'll ask Mike
de Corsi about that when we have them on because
we'll see if it does become the order because nil
existed last.

Speaker 4 (23:38):
Year, right, and we had plenty of blue and we
had plenty of upsets.

Speaker 3 (23:41):
Totally, I mean, Oakland be Kentucky for God's sake, So
I mean it can, it can happen, And I don't know.
I do think with the consolidation of the major conferences now,
with teams like BYU going to the Big twelve, we're
gonna see more and more years where mid majors aren't
gonna have Sweet sixteen team.

Speaker 1 (23:58):
Yeah no, I mean totally.

Speaker 2 (23:59):
I mean this could this could potentially be the norm
where the story is of Maryland, Baltimore County, Loyola, Chicago, Hell,
even San Diego State who made a run you know
a couple of years ago, Florida Atlantic whatever those days
might be over.

Speaker 3 (24:13):
Guys, you have those teams usually had four year starters
and that's the reason they got there.

Speaker 1 (24:18):
Believe it.

Speaker 3 (24:18):
But if you're awesome as a sophomore at Maryland Baltimore County,
you're going to.

Speaker 1 (24:22):
Maryland, you're going somewhere else in transferring.

Speaker 5 (24:24):
Then clearly the magic from the tournament might be getting lost.

Speaker 1 (24:27):
I mean, I know, I get that.

Speaker 5 (24:30):
I get it because I think that we are looking
right now at the start of this turn. I don't
think that we are fully in sort of the well.
I guess it's just chock chock chalk every single year.
Like if that's happening, because clearly happening this year. But
if we see say three straight years, if we see
in twenty six and twenty seven it be the same
amount of chalk that we just saw, then yeah, I

(24:50):
think I think you might see in twenty twenty eight
ratings and start to see the Clinton because people will go,
where's the magic?

Speaker 1 (24:55):
Where's Will they eventually get bored?

Speaker 2 (24:57):
Will they eventually get bored of that when there's no
real unbelievable Cinderella story exactly for people to get behind.

Speaker 1 (25:04):
There's no drama.

Speaker 2 (25:05):
I mean, the games are gonna be good, man, I mean, hell,
the Maryland game yesterday against CSU was unbelievable, right, and
you showed the shot of the guy's parents in the stands. Yep,
after they took the lead, and then Derek Queen had
the you know, the the fade away to win it
for them, which I thought he traveled.

Speaker 1 (25:21):
But they're never gonna call that. Ever, There's no way
they're gonna call.

Speaker 2 (25:24):
That, of course, right, of course, I mean that happens
all the time, first of all. Then second of all,
in that situation forgetting well, that freeze.

Speaker 3 (25:29):
Frame, I said out it literally took me five minutes
to get that freeze frame. So if it takes me
five minutes to slow down my television to get a
freeze frame proving that somebody traveled.

Speaker 2 (25:40):
Get off their whe you don't call that at the
end of a basket. I's thought how basketball's played. Oh,
life is not played with freeze frames that take five
minutes to pin down. I mean, yes, if you went,
how many travels could you call if referees had that
like super power ability or they could look at a
plane them and slow it down again, they called thousand

(26:00):
travels a week if they could do that. That's not
the ways the game is playing. Yes, And you know
what I would have been kind of pissed off if
they called it travel I would have too, because it
would it would have it would have just dampened what
was has so far been the moment of the tournament.

Speaker 3 (26:15):
Guess what has been The venue of the tournament has
been a venue. I saw a great one out of
the three four great games on Friday. I saw that game,
and then both of the games yesterday were incredible.

Speaker 2 (26:26):
Let's get a break, a little fun with audio, and
then Hume Mallin's going to join a little more at
four with Hugh on ninety three three KJRFM.

Speaker 1 (26:34):
It's now time for something in digs fun with audio.

Speaker 8 (26:38):
Jimmy gawn Star, Jimmy mister garoppolo.

Speaker 1 (26:41):
Now let's have some fun with audio.

Speaker 2 (26:44):
All right, here we go the segment everybody's been waiting for.
I hope because you know what, a lot of damn
effort goes into this thing, and we appreciate you tuning in.

Speaker 1 (26:52):
That's how's that.

Speaker 2 (26:52):
Normally in these segments we put no effort into whatsoever.
We could not care less if you tune in or not.
This one, though, that goes into a lot of communication.
Weak give us the pleasure of tuning in thank you.
All right, here we go a little fun with audio
slash Hey did you hear that?

Speaker 1 (27:10):
Hey, Dick, did you happen to hear that? What's that? Dick?
We start?

Speaker 2 (27:13):
In college basketball, the NCAA Tournament finally delivered a buzzer
beater in yesterday's round of thirty two game a Climate
Pledge Arena right here in Seattle, between Maryland and Colorado State.
Here was the final call on the Terrapins student run
radio station WMUC and Maryland senior Tyler Lochtee three.

Speaker 7 (27:36):
Point seven seconds left. Maryland has not made a shot
in the last two twenty seven. If they don't make
one here, their season is over. The Lesbia inbounds, he
finds Queen. Queen turns, puts it up in the.

Speaker 1 (27:52):
Buzzer head in.

Speaker 7 (27:54):
Maryland is headed to the sleek sixteen for the second
time twenty two years.

Speaker 1 (28:02):
It's the pressman, Derek Queen. He's a Merryland zero.

Speaker 2 (28:07):
Okay, So normally when you hear a student run radio
station play by play voice, you get the.

Speaker 1 (28:11):
Boom goes the dynamite guy, Yes, exactly.

Speaker 2 (28:13):
That guy was really good, and there's a lot of
people think he was better than whoever was doing the
call on TV. Whatever her name was on much shirt,
Lisa Bidenton is at her name?

Speaker 1 (28:23):
He was great. Good for him.

Speaker 2 (28:24):
I mean that's a that's a future play by play
voice in the making right there.

Speaker 4 (28:28):
Well, I think he just got himself a job.

Speaker 1 (28:29):
You may have.

Speaker 3 (28:30):
I mean that that has gone viral all over Twitter
and some you know, some small college is going to
give him a give him.

Speaker 2 (28:37):
A gig next year. I am at the hell man,
Come on, dude, give the guy a job. Good for him.
That's Tyler Locketey. Remember that name, Hey, Dick, did you
happen to hear that?

Speaker 4 (28:46):
What's that?

Speaker 1 (28:46):
Dick?

Speaker 2 (28:47):
Before Houston beat Gonzaga on the run of thirty two
on Saturday, Cougar's head coach Kelvin Samson, the former Wazoo
Cougar's coach, by the way, corrected one reporter who mispronounced
Gonzaga during an interview.

Speaker 5 (28:59):
Kelvin, didn't you try to get a game with Gonzaga
in twenty twenty one?

Speaker 6 (29:04):
Zaga?

Speaker 1 (29:04):
Gonzaga? Gonzaga.

Speaker 6 (29:07):
I always always burns me up when people say that. Yeah,
it's like calling me Kevin. My name is not Kevin.
My mother used to say, people would see my name
and say, hey, Kevin, and she would don't. Don't let
people call you Kevin. Your name is Kelvin. Make sure
they pronounce your name right. And so that's why my

(29:27):
antennas go up with that. Same with Gonzaga, they were
our neighbors. It's and it's not Spokane, and it's not Gonzaga.
It's Gonzaga and it's Spokane.

Speaker 1 (29:38):
Go ahead, Okay, first of all, I just do it
just to irritate him. You know that Gonzaga pisses them off.
I don't know what it is.

Speaker 2 (29:45):
I mean, there's something about mispronouncing that name that just
drives them crazy. But can we also, if we're gonna
do the whole Gonzaga Gonzaga thing, when people say Washington,
can we correct that too?

Speaker 1 (29:55):
Sure, there's no r Like, where does that even come from?

Speaker 2 (29:58):
Like my mother in law says that from she with
the Fife High School and she calls it Washington.

Speaker 1 (30:03):
What the hell?

Speaker 2 (30:04):
I can see it if you're from somewhere else, but
you're from the state, Where does it even come from?

Speaker 4 (30:08):
I don't got it.

Speaker 3 (30:09):
How could anyone, let alone a reporter in an NC
Double A tournament arena right, mispronounced the name of a
team that has gone to twenty five consecutive and no, sorry,
twenty seven consecutive NC Double A Tournament.

Speaker 2 (30:24):
Because that's what people say. They just called Gonzaga. They've
said that forever and they're three thousand miles away.

Speaker 3 (30:29):
But haven't they heard one game that's been called or
watched one game that's been on television, because not one
of those play by play guys have ever said maybe
twenty seven.

Speaker 1 (30:41):
Years ago, all right, I mean, have you heard.

Speaker 3 (30:43):
A CBS guy sa Gonzaga for the last twenty years.

Speaker 1 (30:46):
I'd have to go back and watch every game I have.

Speaker 2 (30:49):
I've watched every I haven't heard, Miss Jackson, is why
I do it? Look got worked up these guys what
I just tell you thirty seconds ago. It pisses them off,
It drives them crazy, and you say Gonzaga and you
are proof freaking positive right here?

Speaker 1 (31:04):
Look at it. Look at red his faces like a tomato.

Speaker 4 (31:06):
It's idiots. It's absolute idiots. There was a team that
you liked that was.

Speaker 3 (31:12):
Successful for twenty years, you'd feel the exact same way. Maybe,
but I don't, just because you don't have a team
that's been good for twenty years.

Speaker 5 (31:20):
Because I only root for one team because they be
called World.

Speaker 1 (31:23):
Wouldn't you get pissed off? The Jackson right there?

Speaker 2 (31:26):
You know why I only root for one team, Dick,
I'll give myself twelve op.

Speaker 4 (31:30):
You just said it would piss you off if they
were called Washington. It pisses me.

Speaker 1 (31:33):
Well that that doesn't. But that's more of just a
bug a boo.

Speaker 5 (31:36):
The words, the literal words that were just was, you
don't have a team that's been good for twenty years.
I think the words that were, we don't have a
good team. But I thought it was well but apparently
not apparently not sweet.

Speaker 2 (31:46):
I thought you're a Husky fan. Well, Washington hasn't been
good for twenty years. That was a factual state. Didn't
we decide that we get to pick a team?

Speaker 1 (31:54):
Jackson? Okay, so who should we get? Let's pick a team,
a team? Who do you want?

Speaker 5 (31:58):
Didn't I say it was another another one of the
same seed that Gonzaga had, So we.

Speaker 4 (32:02):
Would you picked a team we would have gotten?

Speaker 1 (32:06):
Take Houston, Houston, I'm gonna I'm Houston. Oh god, you're
getting for weeks here? Yeah? For weeks? All right? Three
or four pick one, Jackson, which one? We gotta get
the four? Eventually?

Speaker 4 (32:18):
Where's the Boom Goes the Dynamite? You tease it?

Speaker 1 (32:20):
It was the twentieth anniversary.

Speaker 4 (32:22):
I said it to Jackson this weekend.

Speaker 1 (32:23):
I don't know. You just brought it up.

Speaker 4 (32:26):
It was perfect timing.

Speaker 1 (32:27):
Is it on the list? It's not on the list.
The better clips? I thought there were better clips this week.

Speaker 4 (32:33):
This is the twentieth anniversary of Boom Goes to Dina.

Speaker 1 (32:35):
I didn't even know that. That's amazing that it brought
it up. You're talking about they'll give me a second.
That's okay, Hey, Dick, did you happen? What's that? Dick?
Let's go at number four while you're waiting. Finally, all right,
Uh god, this thing's been this better be good. NCAA Tournament.

Speaker 2 (32:50):
Brooklyn Nets broadcaster Iron Eagle joined The Dan Patrick Show
recently and shared a story about drinking with Bill Raftery
in Seattle many years ago.

Speaker 9 (32:58):
Can I interject one thing, Dan, because it just spurred
a memory of mine. We were in Seattle for a
net game and we ended up going to dinner, large group,
and then the group got a little smaller. We went
out to a bar afterwards, and we got to the bar,
and literally ten minutes into our stay at the bar,

(33:20):
they call out last call, and I see like Bill's
whole demeanor change in that moment, and he just leaves
the group and he goes to the bar and he
obviously gets in an order for last call, and normally
last call. What ends up happening? They still let you
hang around a little bit.

Speaker 3 (33:42):
They did not.

Speaker 9 (33:43):
They kick us out of this bar. We spill out
into the street. It's not even that laid out, and
Bill's a bit upset about it, and I understand they
cut off his evening. So he's wearing a long trench coat.
And we get outside now and our director who passed away,
great guy, Dave Hagen, he shows us that he snuck

(34:06):
one beer out to the street and we all laugh like, oh,
that's amazing. Rap opens his trench coat. He has eight
years that he has snuck out, two in each side pocket,
two on the interior in his pants. This guy is
at another level.

Speaker 2 (34:24):
Wow, Well, I'll tell you what you saw him working
this weekend? Right, Yes, he's eighty one years old. Now
does he not look exactly like he did twenty years ago?
He's looked eighty one since he was forty one. It's unbelievable.

Speaker 3 (34:35):
It's the Steve Martin phenomenon, which I am fully approved
of because it's me too, because I was an early
gray guy. Yeah, Bill's an early gray guy. Steve Martin's
an early gray guy. So when you're forty five, you
look fifty five, but when you're seventy five, you still
look fifty five.

Speaker 2 (34:52):
You and Sam Meyer, the two of you, it's amazing, unbelievable.
You got the clip, by the way, Jackson.

Speaker 1 (34:57):
Yeah right, it's super late, so sorry, Humil.

Speaker 2 (35:00):
We'll do it later. Let'll just do it later. All right,
we'll do it later. Have it right here, we'll celebrate.
How about we do this. I don't want to be
late to you. We'll celebrate one of the great moments
in broadcast history.

Speaker 1 (35:09):
It's at all right. That's called a tease. Baby. Hu
Millan joins next on ninety three three kJ R FL

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