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Speaker 1 (00:00):
And how about this the NCED double A. Oh Jackson
our man Dan Lanning is not going to like this rule.
The NC double A is announced the new rule to
combat faking injuries. So if medical personnel are forced to
enter the field, the player's team will be charged with
a timeout. If they don't have a timeout, there will
be a five yard penalty.
Speaker 2 (00:21):
How about that?
Speaker 1 (00:23):
Dan Lanning fighting tooth and nail to make sure that
that doesn't go through.
Speaker 2 (00:28):
But I think it already has. What do you think
about that rule?
Speaker 1 (00:32):
Here? The NC double announcing the rule to combat faking injuries.
So you're gonna be forced to charge, be charged a
timeout if the medical personnel come on the field. If
you don't have a timeout, you get a five yard penalty.
Speaker 3 (00:46):
Well, there's gonna be pressure on players to not lay
on the field. I know I coached youth in high
school football for twenty four years, and you know we
don't have trainers. And the biggest concern you have kid
laying on the ground. And obviously, if it's really serious,
you're gonna call nine to one one. But when you're
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dealing with twelve year olds, you know that most most
injuries when they're laying on the ground don't require nine
to one one, but anything involving the spine in the neck, sure,
you know, yeah, I'm scared as hell. I'm a layman,
I'm not a freaking amt and and so I would
just say, okay, how is that relevant if uh to
my concern with this? Because you have trainers. What I'd
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be concerned as a player and a teammate would be like, hey,
we can't afford a time out, and now all of
a sudden, the teammate grabs a player who should be
left alone. I understand you could train and all that,
or a player might feel compelled, compelled to get up
when he really should be down. You know, I don't know.
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I mean, I get the objective, the end game is worthwhile,
but the process could lead to intended consequence.
Speaker 1 (02:01):
Well, we wouldn't need this rule if there wasn't unsavory
acts that go on like down in Eugene.
Speaker 2 (02:08):
I mean, and he's the he's the.
Speaker 1 (02:10):
Number one culprit as far as I know, He's done
it twice in the last two years. I'm sure it
happens elsewhere, but I mean, it's just it's just such
clown behavior for a head football coach to do something
like that, I think, I mean, maybe people out there, Oh,
you know what, you got to bend the rules. It's
not breaking the rules, you're just bend. If you ain't
bending the rules, you're not competing. Well, I think it's ridiculous.
Speaker 3 (02:33):
Well, I think when you consider why, you know, these
academic institutions football originated in the IVY League, right, the
mecca of American higher education, right. And so if you
can try and imagine being in the nineteenth century trying
to make a claim for why athletics should be supported
and should be aligned with higher institutions, then at some
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point you're going to be talking about out the values
and the goals that that young people experience are exposed to,
the trials, that all of that is educational in its nature,
and it helps the development of young people. And and
so I think attendant to that is what you're discussing
that that, Hey, let's let's try and be sportsmanlike in
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this and we're coaching nineteen to twenty two year olds.
Let's try and espouse the values that are good that
we would want members of our society to have. And
so yeah, I mean, I'm just I'm not I'm no
bueno on faking injuries or any of the other things
trying to find loopholes, Dan Manny Dan Lanning all but
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admitted that he'd put the thirteenth man, excuse the twelfth man,
excuse me on the field, knowing that it was obviously impermissible.
Speaker 2 (03:51):
It's a penalty, but.
Speaker 3 (03:52):
He knew that it would that it would be a
strategic advantage. So so how to not has he now
tell his players all the other ethereal components of what
football is supposed to be.
Speaker 2 (04:07):
Teaching these young men. I don't know.
Speaker 4 (04:09):
I just.
Speaker 3 (04:11):
I'm not down for that at all. I like the
idea of trying to get rid of the fake injuries,
I just don't know the mechanism.
Speaker 1 (04:17):
You brought up something there tying education with football, and
it got me thinking the other day. I'm glad you
brought this up, because I was actually thinking about this
other day the other day. I hadn't thought about bringing
this up with you. But in today's day and age
of finances, running everything in the athletic department and seemingly
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making money for the athletic department and now for the players,
seems to be goal number one, two, three, and four.
What is the point of non revenue sports being tied
to universities.
Speaker 2 (04:52):
I think what it was.
Speaker 3 (04:55):
I think the idea, Okay, give me a sport, I
mean swimming, soccer, I cask for golf, golf, Yeah, I
mean I think that the the idea of the perseverance
you know in team sports, that how you rely on teams,
you know, the competition, handling adversity, handling success with grace.
Speaker 1 (05:21):
So as part of the educational process, it's yes, you're
being educated.
Speaker 2 (05:27):
Just think about this.
Speaker 3 (05:28):
Imagine the first football game ever was what Princeton versus Records.
I know, records not in the IVY League, but but
you know, Harvard, Yale, what have you. That's that's kind
of like the very foundational parts of college football. I
want you to imagine you're a president of Harvard or
Yale back in you know, in eighteen seventy, like we're
just off the heels of the Civil War for crime
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out loud and and and an ad some some faction
is coming to you saying, hey, I think we should
have intercollegiate sports that that's tied the university. We should
have teams. Well, the first question in your out of
your mouth I would think would be thinking from that perspective. Okay,
how does what you're proposing align with our mission statement
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of of of teaching young people and putting young people in,
you know, a place like Harvard. Their feeling is, Hey, Harvard,
Harvard graduates run the world, and it's our job to
serve them right and and to give them the value
so that they appropriately and in a manner that fits
all of us, that they learn those values, that they
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get that education. And so so I think if you're
the president of one of those schools back, then you're
going to be sold on on the on all the
wonderful goals that sports do in their purest form provide.
Speaker 1 (06:51):
No, that's that's a great answer, because I'm just picturing you,
you know, at standing on the forty yard line at
Husky Stadium facing a third and six against Michigan. Was
seventy five thousand people there, and you're down by a
couple that you know, great drive that you guys had.
I mean that baptism under fire, I don't. I don't
think a psych one oh one class can get baptism
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under fire better than that situation.
Speaker 3 (07:14):
So then fast forward twenty years or fifteen years and
you've got a huge account and you've got to go
and you've got to meet with Okay, I'm actually was
in this situation presenting to Adidas, you know, and three
hundred people for Adidas and selling them on a ball.
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But anyway, had had had had met with the top
brast of Adidas. I mean, people get into these these
experiences in in business and the experience they had as
an athlete, you better believe it helps you. You know,
you you've already got the feeling about the teamwork. You've
already been under the gun. You've already been like, okay,
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now it's go time. Now we have to be at
our best and you have you know, if you've been
in those pressure situations, it brings you confidence and maybe
you deliver a little better pitch and you and your
company gets the freaking job. And then uh at the account.
And then and then because you got that account, then
you get another account and all of a sudden you
build it and you could trace it back to that
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one little deal where a former athlete kicked ass in
a presentation, barely got the freaking account, but then everything
steamrolled from there like all of that and that's just
one example. Give me, give me twenty four hours, I'll
come back and I'll lay I'll lay out scores of
examples of how not just football players, but but athletes,
how how tangible benefits are are experienced from athletes in
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all sports in the collegiates, in the collegiate arena. And
that's why again that I posit that that at the
very advent there, there was higher institutions, before there was
sports in higher institutions. So at some point higher institutions said, yes,
let's do it.
Speaker 2 (09:05):
Yep, yep. No's that's interesting.
Speaker 1 (09:07):
I kind of went off on a tangent there, but
you got you've got me thinking about that. We'll have
the Jalen Miller discussion at five o'clock, but we got
to talk some more draft. Our man Lance Zerline joining
us from NFL dot Com coming up next on ninety
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Speaker 5 (09:20):
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Speaker 2 (09:44):
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Speaker 1 (09:45):
Did great to have Lance Zerline come back with us today,
Take two, Take one. We had a little you know,
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Speaker 2 (10:03):
Who is your guy? Hawks fans? Who is your guy?
At eighteen?
Speaker 1 (10:06):
Who is your guy that you would celebrate with family
and friends if they selected?
Speaker 2 (10:11):
At eighteen?
Speaker 1 (10:12):
Give us a text at D four nine, four to
five to one, Who and why do you want this player?
And we'll have Hugh breakdown your responses. At four forty five.
Speaker 2 (10:21):
Land Zerline NFL dot com. How are you man? Thanks
for joining us again today.
Speaker 4 (10:26):
Yeah, we would love to me. We had some questions
I wanted to answer, and I was like, man, I
can't believe this is at work, and so I had
to come back.
Speaker 1 (10:34):
You know, let's let's talk about the depth of this
draft for a second. I mean, we spend so much
time talking about the first round because that's what's sexy.
Speaker 2 (10:43):
That's what everybody. You know.
Speaker 1 (10:44):
We can only add us mortals unlike you. US mortals
can only handle like twenty five to thirty two names, right,
we can't handle like two three hundred like you do.
Is is this draft deeper with starters down the line
than most drafts or is it about the same?
Speaker 4 (11:04):
I think it is at certain positions. That question is
in a general sense, and no, it's not deeper, but
in a specific sense, Yeah, there are positions where it's
a lot deeper. Defensive tackle, running back, defensive end, slash edge.
So I think there's some good like quarterback. I don't
think there's a lot of long term starters at quarterback,
but I think what there are good long time backups
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that can be low end starters that may drift between
back and forth between you know, starting and backup. I
think that's kind of what this draft is actually, when
it's all said and done, it's gonna end up having
a lot of But what you have is it's not
top heavy, So it's not great. Once you get past
the first you know, three picks, it gets a little
you get good players, but I think there are players
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would be frankly, a lot of them. Most of them
will be you know, somewhere between twelve and twenty six
in most drafts, and some of those guys are going
to go inside the first fourteen picks. So you know,
Ashton Genty is a special player, but he's a running back,
so you know, in most drafts, he's not gonna go
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inside the top maybe six seven picks. This year, it's
different because Genty is one of the best players in
the draft. So you know, I don't think cam Ward
is one of the best players in the draft. I
think it's Genty, Ashton Genty, Abdol Carter, and Travis Hunter.
But quarterbacks get pushed up, and cam Ward's obviously the
best quarterback.
Speaker 3 (12:29):
Yeah, no, I agree. I mean I've been doing this
for twenty seven years. And even Travis Hunter. Now he's
the most special for the obvious reasons, the versatility, but
he's not the best corner in the last ten or
even five years. He's not the best wide receiver in
the last ten or even five years. It's just the combination.
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He's the best in this draft. But but and yeah,
in Lance zerline with us. I'm going to go back
to what you said at the onset of our segment
here you said you had a lot of questions that
you were eager to answer. Uh, let's throw it to you.
What what are you what? What questions were you eager
to answer that you didn't give an opportunity to a
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couple of days.
Speaker 4 (13:10):
Well, so he yesterday they asked me about I think
the question was about Jalen Milroe. And with Jalen Milroe
because and Dicky, I think you had talked about maybe
broaching the subject of the Hawks taking him at eighteen
or considering him at eighteen? Right, am I?
Speaker 1 (13:26):
Right?
Speaker 3 (13:26):
Is that?
Speaker 4 (13:26):
Well?
Speaker 1 (13:27):
For me, it's more second round. I would be shocked
if they took it second eighteen. But and then and
we had Greg Bell from the TNT today and his
mock he put him at the He put put him
to the Hawks in the in the second round.
Speaker 2 (13:38):
I think eighteen would be a stretch.
Speaker 1 (13:40):
But I I am totally tantalized by Jalen Milro's athleticism.
Speaker 2 (13:44):
There's no question.
Speaker 4 (13:46):
Yeah, and you should be. He is you know, he's
this is a guy who is you know, his athletic
profile is wide receiver running back with the size of
a week side linebacker. I mean it's it's a really
tantalizing profile too. Sure the problem is and that's right.
And yesterday you asked if there'd ever be a time
where I thought that he could be a functional.
Speaker 2 (14:06):
Enough passing right coach.
Speaker 4 (14:07):
I just I don't think, yeah, could he be coached there?
I just don't think so, I think, and you could
answer this better than I could. But I really, in
all the years of watching football, and of course you
know over the last fifteen or so, really studying a
position closely, I just I think accuracy, there's a natural
accuracy that a player has or doesn't have. It's it's
not dissimilar to the way hitters have hand eye coordination,
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the way you know golfers. There's a certain thing that
is going to be natural about golfing, about shooting a basketball.
I think certain things are more correctable than others. Not
I really dug in on on can accuracy be corrected?
Because Jake Locker was a quarterback. You I'm sure you
remember it, and it just never got better for Jake Locker.
I mean, he sprayed it around the Senior Bowl and
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never got any better, and everyone just said, well, you
can coach it up his feet. You just get his
feet right, you know, it's just needs footwork. Well, I
think accurate, see is a very natural, innate thing that
you either have or you don't have. But one thing
with Josh Allen is Josh Allen's taught us. And now
you have to say, is Josh Allen the outlier or
how often can this you know, can this be duplicated
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where the accuracy really improves? And I saw a feature
on Josh Allen where he was talking about what he
did to get better in the way that you know,
he and his and his coach and his trainer really
worked on certain things in terms of taking his thought,
his throwing thought kind of like a swing thought in golf.
He had to start thinking differently when he was the
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release in the football in terms of where the release
point was. It was a little earlier in the throw
as opposed to later in the throw.
Speaker 6 (15:40):
And you know, these are things that I was fascinated
because this is stuff, you know, it's that's not my
you know, it's not my wheelhouse to understand how to
coach up a quarterback.
Speaker 4 (15:51):
So it was really interesting to hear this, and so
it gave me hope that some other quarterbacks who had
those issues could get better. I think you can get
better with with the right technique, with the right footwork.
When everything's right. Here's one of the problems, and this
is across the board. My dad was an l coach,
so he always talked about the fact that he was
getting players into the league more and more that were
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not that were less and less technically sound because college
football it's just about play fast, and a lot less
technique is being taught. Now you have less practice time
in the NFL than you ever have, so it's harder
to teach technique. And I think the problem you have
is a lot of quarterbacks really want to emulate the
homes they want to emulate. At some point, Aaron Rodgers
is what a lot of them emulated. And so you've
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got quarterbacks trying to make these trick shots, these off
platform throws, and it's not and bad habits develop when
you do that. And so I think the problem is
a lot of these guys who come in with some
accuracy issues, they're fundamentally flawed in terms of their ability
to deliver the ball in a consistent, repeatable process. And
with Jalen Milroe, you know what I would worry about
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is he's not innately accurate. I think that's obvious when
you watch it tape on him, and I'm not sure
that it can get a lot better. And so when
you're not accurate, what you've got to do away look
at I think of a baseball analogy. If you're going
to strike out a lot, you better hit home runs.
If you hit home runs, then you can strike out more. Well.
When Lamar Jackson came into the league, I kind of
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adopted that man. Trusted. You know, he's not the most
accurate guy, but he can hit a lot of home runs,
so you have to be okay with that. And over
the time he's actually gotten better. He has developed a
little bit better acturacy. He said he's a better passer,
he's a better quarterback from the pocket. So could that
happen with Milroe? Yeah, could happen with him. But I
think Lamar is still a little bit of an outlier.
I think Josh Allen is a little bit of an outlier.
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And I think what Milroe is iss teams are going
to bet on, Hey, we either have a superstar, dual
threat quarterback who may be heavier run than pass, or
we have a guy that we might be able to
switch positions with because I've already talked to teams who said, look,
if it didn't work out, we've got an absolutely elite
explosive athlete, we'll figure something out.
Speaker 3 (18:00):
Yeah, I mean they said that about Cordell Stewart. He
was slash right. But but how many how many times
have we seen a guy, uh, you know, get drafted
as a quarterback, try him at quarterback for a year
or two, and then convert him to another position you
mentioned will linebacker. Yeah, his frame, he's about as a
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robust of a of an athlete. Like if you said, okay,
I'm gonna take uh, you know, twenty two I can
clone this guy twenty two time, you know, one one
player twenty two ways, right, and then let him play
all eleven positions on offense and all eleven positions on defense.
Like he might be the guy you'd clone to do that, right.
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But h you know, But but I think to your
point about accuracy, I think most of the time for
me and studying it, it's it's not a mechanical thing.
It's more of like how do you how do you
process leading dynamic? For example, you throw that three cut
the Oki route, the semi that twelve yard speed out
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on the sixth step. If you look at when quarterbacks
when they break their hand and what they're the receivers
going down the field, and he still has to break
out and you've got to anticipate where that spot is.
I think it's more of an issue of do you
hit the spot as opposed to mechanics. But I said,
like ninety ninety five percent of the time, there's a
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five or ten percent of the time where there's actual
mechanical deficiency that kinetic chain. And I think in Milro's case,
he's one of those five ten percent guys that actually
has not just the vectoring issue that I talked about, Hey,
can you lead a guy in dynamic accuracy, but actually
mechanical issues. Can you actually hit the spot that your
brain tells you to hit?
Speaker 4 (19:51):
Yeah, and you know the timing you can always you
can cheat it by saying okay on the fifth step,
we're cutting it loose, like you can. You know, there's
some things you can do to me. It's a lot
like a basketball, like a point guard. You know. I
feel like you can always take things from other sports,
and that's why I will reference certain things magic Johnson
had amazed John Stocks incredible spatial awareness. Steve Nash had it,
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so the ability to recognize space and to understand how
to deliver a pass in terms of with as you,
as you mentioned the victory, that is something that I
don't think you can learn. I think you have it
or you don't have it. There's certain guys that have it.
There are certain guys that don't have it, and the
ones that don't have it have to just kind of
struggle through and they'll be a little bit inconsistent. Ones
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like Joe Burrow that have it are really are really
special because he didn't have a big army, didn't have
special physical traits, but Joe Montana had it. I mean,
it's it's it's that Tom Brady has it. It's an
ability to deliver throws. And when you have that, it
opens the field up to you. It opens up you
don't have to you're not as limited because you don't
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have the velocity to throw it into the tight windows.
It just it makes you such a so much better quarterback.
And not every quarterback is going to be like that. Obviously,
Russell Wilson to me, I loved russ I thought Russell
Wilson was wildly underrated for most of his career. I
didn't think he got the I didn't think he got
the credit he deserved. And and you know, Russ hung
on to it too long. He he was a play extender.
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He was gonna take some sacks, but he was a
he was a playmaker. And my dad won a super
Bowl with the Steelers because Ben Roethlisberger, who drove him
crazy as no line coach, because he took so many sacks.
You know, he also been taken, but he giveth because
he also could make plays to want a super Bowl
for you, So, you know, I think the quarterback conversation
is an interesting one because there's so many different types.
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There's so many flavors quarterbacks, and sometime we get too
caught up and just wanting to put somebody in one
particular type of style where everyone wants to get the
next to this guy or the next that guy. But
there's different ways to win. And Jared Goff, there's nothing
sexy about Jared Goff, but Jared Goff had a great
year this year and deep and have they not had
the injuries, that might have been a super Bowl winning team,
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but ultimately they were just two injured and there's nothing
you know, Jared Goffis was at one point of reclamation
project after he left the Rams, and it looked like
his time with the Coruit was going to come put
in shortly. And now all of a sudden, you know
that accuracy and throwing wide receivers open and his field
for the game. As a game manager, now you see
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you can win at a high level with that type
of quarterback as well. Well.
Speaker 1 (22:27):
Zeroline joining us from an NFL dot com weekly conversation
when you when you talked about the less practice time,
and a name came to my mind immediately, and that's
Travis Hunter. I mean, how elite can Travis Hunter be
at anything? If he's playing two positions with limited practice time.
You got an offensive coordinator and wide receiver coach arguing
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with a defensive coordinator and a cornerbacks coach for his time.
Speaker 4 (22:53):
Yeah, it's interesting. I had a conversation with it with
a defensive minded head coach last night and I asked him,
what do you how do you view him? And he
viewed Travis as a wide receiver first, corner second. I said,
it's interesting. I thought you would have been the other way,
and he said, well, he said, I think that it's
harder to learn wide receiver as a as an NFL rookie,
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and which which surprised me. I thought more technique time
would be needed as a corner and because you know
you're playing backwards so much, and he said no, he said,
I think I think it would be harder for Travis
if he doesn't spend more practice time as a wide
receiver and then you roll him over to the other
side for a few snaps every game when you need
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him to be a third cornerback. He thought that that
would be the better play. But when I asked him,
because I asked him about playing both ways, he goes,
I don't see how he could because you can't. To
your point, he can't spend that many time. He can't
spend that time in meetings like there's meeting times are
separate by positions and the practice reps you would have
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him gas. You know NFL teams where the you know,
it looks like the sports brought's the it's the catapult system,
I'm sure you're seeing. And a lot of times they
monitor how many steps you take, and they monitor heart rate,
they monitor everything and so What they're monitoring is when
you have had enough in practice, if you're going too hard,
they'll back guys down in practice because they don't. They
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understand fatigue better. They understand wearing down to the you know,
the physical wear and tear on the player. They've done
studies on it, so they understand it better. When to
pull guys debt back in practice. All the reps that
would be necessary for him, they'd have to shut him
down halfway through practice. They can't let him continue to go.
It's not it's not just the seventeen games. It's the
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consistent work and practice in the meetings and the extra
time after. It would be a tremendous toll. And for
a rookie. It's hard enough to learn one position. So
I think people think this is a video game. Sometimes
it's not. It's it's difficult, you know.
Speaker 3 (24:56):
I've given a lot of thought to Travis Hunter. I've
changed a little bit of my opinion. A month ago,
I said I think that he's slightly better defensive player
than offense, so I would start him at defense. I've
watched a lot more tape since then. I've switched that
I think he's slightly better receiver prospect than he is
a corner prospect. But I and I got a friend
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who used to be an NFL head coach. I texted
him ran this by because it seems so simple to
me what I would do, and I would ask this
prior to the draft. I would just say, Travis, first year,
you're either you're gonna play three downs on one side
of the ball and you're gonna play third down on
the other side of the ball, and then we're gonna
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go from there because because obviously right and and what
do you prefer? And whether he says offense or defense,
I probably want him anyways. But what he wants to do,
he's gonna get. He that plan is going to be
the one that excites him the most. So if he
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if he says offense, he's going to play three downs
on offense, and then he's going to be a third
down guy on the on the sub packages when it's
you know, when in obvious passing situations and he can
go in and he can do that. That's the way
I would handle it. What's what's your response to UH
to that idea?
Speaker 4 (26:17):
Well, I mean I love it. The problem is the
kids on on record is saying I need it. If
you don't plan on playing me both ways, don't even
draft me. I don't even want to play for you.
I mean I thought, I thought, first of all, that's
not all place. Yeah, let's all plays, all plays, both sides,
And I just thought, man, drafts, don't don't tell people
not to draft you. Don't tell people you might as
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well that you might as well quit if you can't
play both ways. Like, don't make comments like that for
the draft. You just you don't need to do that.
But he just, you know, he's ultra competitive. He loves ball,
he's everything about it. You gotta be okay with the competitor,
because that's what it is, not being selfish. He's the
ultimate competitor. He's done it in college, he's done it
at a high level. But he doesn't know. What he
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doesn't know, and what he's about to run into is
a tremendous The step up in competition from the Big
twelve to the NFL's is about to be substantial. The
physicality that the physicality is about to be substantial. The speed,
you know, he's going to have to become a much
better route runner. He's not great. I don't think he's
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getting from point A to point B, he just uses
natural ability against press, but NFL press is going to
really slow him up because he's not real polished in
that regards his route run is not real polished. Once
the ball goes up, elite ball skills are incredible. So
I think getting from point A to point B, he's
going to become really good at that once he gets work.
And I think that's where the technique stuff comes in,
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is he really needs to learn that and he really
needs to be able to focus because he's not going
to get to the level he wants to be at
it either position. If he's bouncing back and forth between both,
it's just but he doesn't know that yet. He's played
twenty six hundred snaps the last two years of Colorado.
He has no idea what that toll is going to
be once he starts trying to do that kind of
stuff on the NFL. In the NFL, but it's going
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to be an interesting battle because he's gonna be steadfast
and wanting to do this and coaches aren't gonna tell
him no. No team is gonna tell him no right
off the bat. But eventually a hard conversation is gonna
have to be had, and frankly, I'm curious to see
how goes. Mike Brabel made it sound like, Hey, we
like guys that can handle as much as possible. We're
gonna put as much on their plate as they can handle,
you know. Rabel of course famously took some reps you know,
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around the goal line. The defensive player caught touchdown passes.
Bill Belichick ran, Troy Brown, played wide receiver, Ram played
some cornerback. Julian Edelman did that a little bit. So
I don't think he's a he's a you know, if
Hunter falls to flour and the Patriots take him, I
don't think he's a verse to giving him reps both sides,
but I doubt seriously that he can hold up if
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he tries it in the NFL.
Speaker 2 (28:52):
Well, it's always a pleasure.
Speaker 1 (28:53):
We really thank you for coming on once again today
and hopefully we'll get a chance to chat with you
next week at some point during draft week.
Speaker 4 (29:00):
Thanks man, Absolutely, we'll see if we can figure it out.
Thanks guys, you've.
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Yes?
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