Softy & Dick 10-3 Hours 2 & 3: Mariners Playoff Round-Table w/ KJR Staff

In the second and third hours, Dave Softy Mahler and Dick Fain hold a Mariners playoff round-table covering the ALDS starting tomorrow against the Detroit Tigers and the postseason ahead with Chuck Powell, Bucky Jacobsen, Ian Furness and Marc James.

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Speaker 2 (00:27):
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Speaker 3 (00:29):
Right, boys and girls, We're back at Jimmy's on First.
We actually got half the crew down here at Jimmy's
and half the crew up here. It's will call me
because Ian's just too damn lazy to get in the
car and drive down here and be a part of
the show at Jimmy's on First. And we thought, you
know what, the old man's been in the business for
a long time. Let's just let him get comfortable, maybe
take a nap after his show's over, so he's good

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and ready for our program, coming up here at four
o'clock and talk at some baseball. So we got Mark
James here with us at Jimmy's. Mark, how are you pal?

Speaker 2 (00:57):
Good?

Speaker 4 (00:57):
I got five words. Can I get a drink?

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Speaker 3 (01:09):
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Speaker 3 (01:41):
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we are we are fired up to have you guys.
Chuck Pale is gonna join us next segment. Dick Fang
going to pop on as well, and guys, here we go, right,
this is the moment tomorrow that we've all been waiting
for since twenty twenty two when they had that phenomenal
series against the Astros. Every game, Bucky will start with

(02:01):
you is a was a nail bier. Obviously you get
swept in three. But they I thought comported themselves very
well in that series three years ago against the Astros,
and we all thought, Okay, you come to the offseason
going into twenty twenty three, your reset, and then you
make a run right like we thought in ninety five,
you guys are probably not you not old enough. Ian
and Bucky are I'm not sure about you. Mark sitting

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there after the ninety five season came to an end,
thinking well, we're going to the World Series next year.
We got a Rod, we got Edgar, we got Buner,
we got Randy, we got Griffy, we got all these guys.
In thirty years later and it hasn't happened. But this
is three years now, Bucky, after they ended the curse
in twenty twenty two. What are our thoughts. We'll go
around the room and start with you, Bucky. What this

(02:42):
team is capable of getting done. Starting tomorrow at five
point thirty eight against the.

Speaker 9 (02:47):
Tigers, They're capable winning the whole thing. I mean, there's
no way around that. I mean, what they're bringing to
the table, pitching staff, starting rotation primarily, and then one
of the deeper lineups. Maybe the Phillies have a more
pote lineup, but that as far as depth goes, anybody
at any point in time that can chip in and
win a game for you. I mean, this is about
as deep of a lineup as I can remember, all

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the way back to probably two thousand and one, two
thousand and two, when that amazing team. They had an
amazing team back then. Obviously, I think that there's the
capability is this guy's the limit of what they're capable
of doing. And I think the beautiful thing is that
they did get that getting off the schneid a little
bit a couple of years ago. I mean, you think
about it, when Cal hit that home run, He's running

(03:30):
around the bases and he touches his helmet. He's like,
oh my god, he coming to home and he goes
across the throat like this the drought is over. They
accomplished the biggest goal that they could have possibly hoped for.
Even if in the back of their mind they were thinking,
we want to win a World Series, their main thing
was can we break this drought? So I think they
broke the drought. There was a bunch of young guys
that had never experienced playoff baseball. They end up winning

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that first one against Toronto and then running into the
buzzsaw that has been Houston for the better part of
a decade. Well, they've they've overcome that hurdle, that hurdles
behind him at this point in time. And I don't
think there's any any person in that clubhouse or organization
for that matter, that is just satisfied with making the
playoffs and getting to buy through the first.

Speaker 5 (04:09):
Round, no, no question.

Speaker 3 (04:10):
And Ian, look, you were there in ninety five, you
were your forty five, then you're seventy five. Now you're
pretty close. Here we are here, we are thirty years later.
And you know, Bucky, Bucky said it. I thought eloquently
that three years ago it was okay to make the playoffs,
it was okay to end the drought, right because you
got to take baby steps. Were here we are now
in the exact same series in the Division series that

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we were at three years ago. We talked about this
yesterday on the radio show. In your opinion, is making
this point enough or does this baseball team now need
to be to do more to make this year of success.

Speaker 7 (04:42):
Well, first of all, you use the word comported, I like,
who are?

Speaker 3 (04:47):
I had to look it up, by the way, Okay, yeah, yeah, beha,
I have a subscription to dictionary dot com.

Speaker 7 (04:53):
By the way, kind of use it the right context, but.

Speaker 4 (04:56):
I absolutely used it in the right context anyway.

Speaker 7 (04:59):
Uh, I think the difference.

Speaker 8 (05:01):
The interesting thing is, to answer your question, I don't
think it's enough just to get here because of what
Bucky just said. I think this team has a higher
potential now because baseball has these short series of five
games and we've already seen I mean San Diego was
kind of everyone's darling, right, and they're home after three, So,
you know, I think the cliche it's true, though, anything

(05:21):
can happen in a short series and in baseball. But
you know, ninety five was interesting because of everything that
happened that year. You know, getting in you know, he's
gonna score, everyone's gonna score. Is Rizzi's losing his mind,
and you know, two thousand and one. Two thousand and one, honestly, guys,
feels like the only year. And maybe this is just
me as a jaded Mariner fan, but two thousand and
one felt like the one year that, hey, this team

(05:44):
has a potential when you should you win one hundred
and sixteen games to win it all. Every other year
it's been well, we're happy to be there, right, We're
just happy to be there.

Speaker 5 (05:52):
Right.

Speaker 7 (05:52):
This team's better than that.

Speaker 8 (05:54):
This team is is whether it's the pitching staff, the lineup,
and you know these guys are talking about it, Chuck
and Bucket this morning on their show. I mean one
through nine, right, like one through nine. There aren't a
lot of holes in the lineup, and every guy has
has some pop in his bat. I don't think it's
good enough just to get to the Alds. If they
lose in five, maybe we can revisit that question. But
I think this is a team that needs to get

(06:15):
to at least the Alcs, and I think they have
the potential to win it all. And we haven't said
that often in forty nine years.

Speaker 3 (06:21):
All right, So Mark wanted a few minutes to get
to the bar and grab a drink, he's done that right.
He's got a double Tito soda in front of him,
by the way, so he's ready to rock.

Speaker 4 (06:30):
You're new to this town, but you've been here a while.

Speaker 3 (06:32):
You've been here long enough now to know months the
history of this town, what we've been through. Nobody has
waited longer than us to play in the World Series
in baseball because we're the last team to make it.
If we do make it, make it. So what does
this team need to accomp with starting tomorrow to make
this year success? Well, first of all, four word softy
World Series are boss. This is the best roster in

(06:52):
the American League. Yeah, hands down, okay.

Speaker 6 (06:55):
And but like what Bucky said too about you know
the Dodgers in the Phillies, but I'll go do Phil,
He's probably maybe the third best roster in baseball. But
one of the things that surprised me, guys about this
is that teams that have earned the bye in the
new playoff format are six and six in the division
series since the new playoff format was introduced in twenty
twenty two, So earning the bye doesn't necessarily mean a

(07:17):
fast pass to the Alcs. That being said, you look
at what this team did. I don't count the Dodgers
series last weekend because they had already accomplished did everything
they did. They got won seventeen on the previous eighteen
games one through nine. They have the best starting rotation
when healthy. Bullpen can be a little iffy here and there.
Caleb Ferguson, Brash Munnos. There's no reason why this team

(07:41):
should not make a march to the Fall Classic and
win it all. They have everything they could ever want.
Jerry Depoto did the job. The week before the deadline.
He traded for Josh Naylor. The day of the deadline,
he traded for Gino Suarez, and he got Caleb Ferguson.
In between, everything is all the stars are aligned. But
Ian said in two thousand and one, you know the pain.

(08:03):
One of the things a guy in Atlanta once told me.
He said, you know what you can know every city's
franchise sports history like the back of your hand. You
don't know the pain, Softy, I don't know the pain
what you and Ian and Chuck and Buck and Ashley
and everybody here and Dick have been through. I don't
know that pain. I can tell you this. I think

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that the Mariners fans that they deserve a World Series
and that they deserve to get to this and then
why not do it now?

Speaker 4 (08:30):
As cal Rally once said, let's go win the the
whole in thing. And that's what this team can do.

Speaker 6 (08:36):
They have the best roster in the American League, and
to me, if they don't make it to.

Speaker 4 (08:41):
The World Series, softy, it's a disappoint all right.

Speaker 3 (08:43):
Well, first of all, I'm glad you mentioned cal because
I can play my new favorite drive, Naughty Cow. And
then second of all, Bucky, you know, just going back
to what Mark was talking about there that look, I
mean I agree with him on the roster. I think
all of us agree. This is the best roster of
the Mariners have had, probably Bucky and twenty four years minimum, right,
maybe even more so going back to two thousand and

(09:04):
one when they won one hundred and sixteen games. But
crazy things happen in the playoffs, right, Even the longer
the series goes, you play a seven to nine, eleven
thirteen game series, and the more the cream rises.

Speaker 7 (09:14):
To the top.

Speaker 3 (09:14):
The question is, is this roster set up to win
a five game do or die series against the Tigers,
which is a five game mini sample, small sample of
what you just did over one hundred.

Speaker 5 (09:27):
And sixty two games.

Speaker 9 (09:29):
Oh well, yeah, I mean most certainly are. I mean,
and talking about how far, how long it's been, I
mean back to four probably is the best roster since then.
I mean, we did lose ninety nine games a year,
but I was on that, So we'll just go ahead
and stop it. Oh five is when the bad rosters started,
right ha ha. But and I mean I'll just say yes,

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are they equipped to do it? They most certainly are.
That doesn't mean that it'll get done to sure what
Mark was saying there. I mean, it's just there's so
many sliding doors that happened. I mean, I'll be disappointed
if they just don't show up, if they lose this
series and they didn't show up on multiple fronts. Right,
we've watched this pitching staff as dominant as it was
last year and for the most part of the year
before and majority of this year. If they show up

(10:11):
and they look like they did through that skid where
one and a half two times through the rotation, everybody
was getting lit up and at the same time, the
offense wasn't doing anything to pick to pick up the pitchers.
I'll be disappointed with that. If they go out here
and play the way they're capable, then yeah.

Speaker 2 (10:26):
It is.

Speaker 9 (10:27):
Legitimately there's a reason they are the favorites to win
the World Series at this point because everybody goes, Okay,
we can't expect you to play at your ceiling for
a month long, but we think your floor is higher
than everybody else's floor. And that is without a doubt.
With this pitching staff, they have enough arms in the bullpen.
Chuck mentioned on our morning show this morning of Caleb
Ferguson could be in a big part of this whole

(10:47):
thing because you now have two lefties, not just game spier.
You have two guys that you can go out there
and dice guys up and change the way in which
the opponent, your opposing manager goes about pinch hitting guys
and whatnot. I mean, they don't have to play over
their skis. That's the beauty of it. When we were
going up against Houston a couple of years ago in
order to beat them, and they still could have right
and Robbie Ray didn't get at the home run, you're

(11:09):
on Alvarez doesn't go If that eighteen inning game goes
a different direction. You may be advanced, but it didn't
feel like that team was really ready to compete for
a World Cheries. This team is ready to compete for
a World Cheries. They just have to go out and
do what they're capable.

Speaker 3 (11:22):
Well, I mean, like we said, we just got to
wait and see how they comport themselves against the Tigers
start tomorrow. But you know, look, the announcement came out
today via Dan Wilson.

Speaker 4 (11:32):
George Kirby is going to start game one. Bucky.

Speaker 3 (11:35):
We were talking yesterday and I initially had said Kirby
and then changed my mind to Logan Gilbert. So I'll
take the l on that. But Ian, what do you
make of that call? And it's a guy who's got
some home road splits three three eight ERA at home,
five point one six on the road. Also noticed by
the way that in three starts at Comerica Park, George
Kirby has a six point six ERA. I wonder how

(11:55):
much of this is Dan Wilson just wanting to keep
him out of Camerica and go with him in game
number one when there's a bullpen day coming tomorrow for Detroit.
What was your take on George Kirby getting to start tomorrow.

Speaker 8 (12:05):
I don't know if anybody that saw that today wasn't surprised.

Speaker 7 (12:10):
I think we all thought.

Speaker 8 (12:11):
I think we all kind of thought it would be
some combination of Gilbert Castile in one and two, and
you know you're opening day starters logan Gilbert, and you're thinking, Okay,
that's probably your Game one starter. The way it could
set up, Castillo goes against Schooble because he's just cut
from a different cloth. Things don't seem to bother that guy,
especially at home, so you go with him in that
second game. I was surprised with Kirby. I know, you know,

(12:31):
Chuck and Bucky and I were talking before we started
the show. I know Chuck's got some strong opinions on
this as well.

Speaker 7 (12:36):
I don't know.

Speaker 8 (12:37):
I guess part of me thinks, can you really go wrong?
You know, like, can you really go wrong with this rotation?
Is because that's the strength of the team as good
as a lineup as we just talked about. I'll tell
you this, I'm disappointed Brian.

Speaker 7 (12:49):
Who was not healthy.

Speaker 8 (12:50):
Yeah, I just as a fan, just as someone that
isn't baseball guy, just as a fan. I don't know,
I just I love watching this kid pitch. I think
he's just he just got something in him that's just
a little different. And I think when you get to
this time of the year, you want that out there.
But can you really go wrong with the condemned? And
the splits are interesting because I know these guys have

(13:12):
a lot of opinions on that short series playoffs are different.
My buddy Ino Sarah's wrote a great story in The
Athletic listing a long long list of Hall of famers
that have been awful in the playoffs, guys by the
name of Demaggio, Morgan, Dill Morgan surprised me. I thought
I just figured everything. The big Red Machine was great.
Apparently not. Jackie Robinson was good at baseball, he was

(13:35):
awful in the playoffs. So I don't know how much
home road regular season matters. Yeah, And because by the
same token, see, I was going against the guy that
they beat the hell out of this year ten innings,
seven runs in Scoople, So like, if we want to
go down that road, it's like, well, they should be
dominating him.

Speaker 7 (13:53):
So I don't think can go wrong. But I think
we're all surprised.

Speaker 3 (13:56):
Well, at some point, Kirby's gonna pitch and he's probably
gonna pitch on with the first three because of Wu's
situation there, Mark, But you know absolutely, I mean Randy Johnson,
you know, for all the praise he gets for that
game in ninety five, coming out of the bullpen, he
actually gave up the lead and Edgar Martinez had to
get it back on the double down the left field line.
So your thoughts on the on the matchup Kirby in
game one, Castillo in Game two.

Speaker 4 (14:16):
Surprised by that at all. I call Logan Gilbert Daddy.

Speaker 6 (14:19):
I think he's the ACE, and I would have gone
I would have gone with Daddy aka Walter, that's his uh,
you know, he's his alter ego. I would have gone
with Logan Gilbert. But that's just me, Mike, listen. I
think the Mariners this matches up when anytime a team
in aj Hinch, who, by the way, he's been there before.
He won the twenty seventeen World Series. He was suspended
in twenty nineteen, but he knows now whatever happened in

(14:41):
the regular season. I saw some stat cal Rowley's won
seventy four this season against the Tiger who cares throw
that out the window.

Speaker 4 (14:48):
I don't care what I want to know, Softy.

Speaker 6 (14:51):
There's only one player on the Mariners franchise right now,
on this team that has had postseason success.

Speaker 4 (14:57):
His name is Randy A.

Speaker 6 (14:58):
Rosarina from who was on the Tampa Bay Rays when
he led them to the World Series in twenty twenty.
Who's gonna be that guy besides Randy, who's gonna step up?
And for me, obviously we know we spect big things
out of the guy who should win the MVP and
Cal Rowley. I'm interested to see Julio Rodriguez because I
looked up late inning pressure situations. Julio's batting two thirty
five and seventy two games this season. And for me,

(15:21):
if you want to be just a from a fringe
all star to an actual superstar like Ian just said,
to win the postseason, who's gonna be Jim lay Ridge,
Who's gonna be Scott Brochus for the Seattle.

Speaker 5 (15:31):
That's right, Well, let's hear this.

Speaker 3 (15:32):
We'll come back and talk about who those heroes are
gonna be. We'll get Chuck in here, we'll get Dick
in here. We'll give Ian and Mark a few minutes
off to hit the bar. Continue on our Mariner round table.
Next there at the stal Qualm Casino. We are at
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Speaker 11 (16:01):
I have to confess, I don't think I have a legacy.
I don't especially care about my legacy. I'm all about
winning for the fans. And you know, these players are hungry,
they're excited, they're frankly in many cases, at the peak
of their playing ability. And and I think it's a
it's a time for us to bring it all together.

Speaker 12 (16:23):
Climb right down. Six un catcher sixty home runs, I
don't forget.

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(17:23):
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Speaker 4 (17:27):
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Speaker 3 (17:31):
Dick Fate is with us from Jimmy's and now Chuck
Powell joins us along with Bucky Jacobson from Stollqualmie Casino.

Speaker 5 (17:37):
How are you a big guy?

Speaker 13 (17:39):
I already got my chest paint on for tomorrow, So yeah,
there's no now listen, I'm not I'm surprised you're not
sitting here sleeping overtnight, waiting for tomorrow.

Speaker 3 (17:47):
Well, let's let's just talk about that clip you heard
from John stant right there. John stant was on with
us about what an hour ago, and you're gonna hear
the replay coming up around six thirty tonight, the chairman
of the Mariners, And we asked him about his legacy
in this town and what do you thinks say world
series title.

Speaker 4 (18:03):
Would do to his legacy? And he says, I don't
care about things like that.

Speaker 3 (18:07):
I mean, what do you think, what do you think
John Stanton's legacy is the owner, the public face, if
you will, of this ownership group is right now, Chuck.

Speaker 5 (18:15):
Cup Well, I mean I think that. I mean I don't.

Speaker 13 (18:19):
I think John's got a large ownership group to have
to answer to, and he takes a lot of shots
as being the face of that group, and so not
all of those decisions are John Stanton, so he takes
but nobody knows any of the other faces to blame.
So I'll give him credit. I think he stepped up
last year at the trading deadline. I've told Bucky this

(18:40):
in the past, You don't have to be the owner
that we want you to be, but you need to
be the owner we need you to be at certain
moments during during your time in this position. And I
don't think he's been that in the off season. I
think he pulled the rug out from underneath Jerry and
justin a couple of years ago after the playoff appearance,
and I thought that was dirty and kind of let

(19:02):
Jerry take all the slings and arrows that day. But
the last two trading deadlines, it's been an owner that
has stepped up and said, spend what you need to.
We'll even take on a rental player, which is something
they've been, you know, kind of stand offish to do
in the past. And so this year, I think it's
all come together. I think Jerry's kind of fixed his

(19:23):
holes in his game, and I think John's kind of
fixed the holes in his game, and in doing that,
we've fixed the holes.

Speaker 5 (19:30):
On this roster. And I don't think they have any
holes right now. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (19:33):
Well, I mean, and Dick, it's funny because you and
I have gone back and forth on this for a
long time. Look, I mean, obviously people make mistakes and
nobody's human right, and John's gonna do some good stuff,
and he's gonna do some stuff that's worth criticism. But
I think in the end, we're at a point now where, man,
you got a chance to make up for a lot
of past mistakes if you can just do one thing
and that's got eleven more victories in the next month.

Speaker 5 (19:55):
Ouse qurating is rising.

Speaker 13 (19:56):
It's rising slowly right now, but it's going to rise
exponential with each series victory, right. And you know, he
even admitted with us he said it was painful to
make those trade deadline deals, like financially painful.

Speaker 7 (20:09):
But he said it was it was worthwhile.

Speaker 13 (20:11):
And I think I think really the major difference between
what the fan base wants and what John Stanton does
is I think the fan base wants it done every
single year, right. The fan base wants all in, all in,
all in, and John picks and chooses his spots based
upon when he and Jerry think it's time to go.

Speaker 7 (20:29):
And I don't have a problem with that.

Speaker 13 (20:31):
I would just say that I think the fan base
has been right a couple of more times over the
last few years when John and Jerry didn't think the
team was ready to roll. I think with a couple
of moves, the team would have been ready to roll
potentially last year or even in twenty twenty three.

Speaker 3 (20:45):
Well, and Bucky, that's the thing is that there's been
times and Chuck knows this. You guys both know this
where I think Jerry's kind of underestimated what he had, right,
and this was a year, Bucky, where they did not
underestimate what they had. If there was ever a time
to go out and get Suarez and get Nailor and
make the move for Ferguson, it was right freaking now
this year to make a run. And the thing that

(21:06):
gives me a lot of hope, Bucky, I think what
I really relied upon a lot this year. I want
to know if you agree with this, is the division
just was wide open, right, and then you expand that,
you expand that, Bucky, to the league. I mean, there's
no elite dominant team in this league right now, which
is a good thing and a bad thing because there's
probably three or four teams that think they could make
the World Series.

Speaker 5 (21:26):
Yeah.

Speaker 9 (21:26):
Well, I mean the idea of where they have been
and then maybe falling short of making some of the
moves for whatever reason they fall in love with too
many prospects or didn't want to go the rental guy route,
which they obviously did times two this year. I mean,
however they were looking at it, it improved them enough.
The thing is that that kind of boggles my mind

(21:47):
when the criticism, and it's not that there isn't criticism
to be thrown around.

Speaker 4 (21:51):
I think that John.

Speaker 9 (21:51):
Stanton would say, yeah, I kind of tighten my purse
up a little bit more than maybe people would like.
And if that's the criticism, I get so be.

Speaker 5 (22:01):
But to Chuck's point, as.

Speaker 9 (22:02):
Long as he does what he we need him to
do when we need him to do it, like he
opened that bad boy up to pay Suarez and Naylor
as rentals this season, I mean, I'm okay with it
because really you're talking about difference between last year epic
pitching performance out of the Mariners staff and then this
year the I mean, you've missed a bunch of guys.

(22:22):
Sixty percent of your guys were out for fairly significant
amount of time, but then you upgraded at the trade
deadline and it equated to five more wins. And that
is that can not only gets you in, but gets
you a first round by through the whole thing. To me,
it's you got to be able to make some of
these moves. At the same time, I know everybody hates
the idea of being patient. I think Mariner fans have
been as patient as any fan based on the in

(22:44):
the history of sports. Right, But there is if I'm
patient right up until the moment before it's going to happen,
that I don't want him to go and do something
that would kind of bring down the house of cards,
so to speak. I think that maybe last year would
have been the first year that they could have and
should have done something than more. And yet most fans
that are really irritated are talking about forty years of irritation.

Speaker 3 (23:05):
That builds up and check. That's the thing is that,
you know, fifty two years old. I just think that
the word patience should be stricken from their vocabulary over there.
Just call it something else, call it chicken sandwich, right this,
just just don't use the P word. But all these
questions that I'm asking you now are really things that
we can talk about when the season comes to an end, right, legacy,
did they do enough?

Speaker 5 (23:25):
Did they not do enough?

Speaker 3 (23:26):
The only thing that should matter right now is doing
whatever you can do to get a win tomorrow night
in game one and giving yourself a giant leg up
on Detroit.

Speaker 4 (23:34):
So you weren't here for the first segment, George Kirby, we.

Speaker 3 (23:36):
Talked about this yesterday on your show Gets the Ball
in game number one. Luis Castillo in game number two.
How surprised were you by that today?

Speaker 13 (23:44):
A very yeah, It's what I've been saying a whole time, right, No,
I'm very surprised by it. And I think to Ian's
point from the previous segment, I don't think there was
a bad decision to be made here, but I do
think there was a decision made.

Speaker 4 (24:01):
Was this the one one?

Speaker 5 (24:02):
I do?

Speaker 13 (24:02):
I think it's a wrong one. I think that they
put way too much stock in the home road splits.
All the guys have better home splits than road splits.
They're trying to cover the entire roulette board. Like if
we placed this guy here and that guy there, that
gives us the best chance to win all five games,
all you gotta do is win three. And all I'm
carried about in game one is winning game one. Pitched

(24:25):
the guy who's best to win Game one and Logan
Gilbert not only had better splits at home. I don't
care if he had better splits on the road. He
was friggin dominant at home. You know, one and a
half strikeouts per inning, one point five eight batting average
against I think a one point five to zero ERA.
Logan Gilbert dominates at home. I wanted to see him

(24:48):
on the mound Saturday. I mean I would have taken
wu if he was healthy. Right, Logan Gilbert, to me,
was the choice. The biggest home road split in the
entire staff is Logan Gilbert. I mean, Logan Gilbert's the
one that has two and a half ERA points between
home and road, and he's the guy that's starting on
the road, Chuck, So to your point, I mean Gilbert's

(25:08):
at a four seven to four on the road. I
think almost They decided to go with Castile so we
can have the rock at home and he can feed
off the home crowd because Castile's home road splits aren't
as great as Gilbert's home road splits, which may have
come as a surprise because we all think, well, Castile's
no good on the road and he's good at home. Well,

(25:29):
the splits for Gilbert are even worse. Well, I don't
mind that Gilbert gets the Game two at all, but
the game one. That guy's starting forty percent of your series, right,
I mean that's one in five. You gotta throw your
best guy there.

Speaker 3 (25:43):
Well, and Castill's pitching Game two obviously, And I mean, look,
I assume that we're gonna see Gilbert in game three,
Bucky will wait on Brian Wu. Like, how concerned Bucky
are we sitting here right now? How concerned are we
that Brian Wu may not pitch in this series at all?

Speaker 9 (25:57):
Well, I mean it's a bummer just considering for him
first and foremost, and then us as fans, the way
that he competes, the way that he's went out there
and basically every single game, and you can't say that
about very many people in very many sports. It regardless
across the board, that just about every single time gives
you an opportunity to win. That's a bummer. And I
think that he probably would have got the nod. I

(26:18):
think that he would have earned it. I think that
everybody in that clubhouse understands the consistency. But this is
where I think, to some degree, he's gonna be fine,
And I want them to make sure he's fine, We're
not rushing him back. If all of a sudden, think
about if you get to go in game five and
you get arrested, Brian wo that you feel good about now?
That could be going against Derek Scuble. But to me,
that's where I think that they ended up going with

(26:39):
his decision. If the difference between Logan going first and
Kirby going first, they most certainly are going Castillo against
Schooble in game two because he's beat him head to
head twice before. There's something beyond all the numbers, and
the numbers matter. Data matters, but there's still something about
just the human part of who gets up how and win.
I mean, if I'm measuring the floor versus measuring the ceiling,

(27:02):
I think George Kirby has just as good of a
chance of going out there and putting having a statement
game as anybody else in this rotation.

Speaker 5 (27:09):
Yeah.

Speaker 9 (27:10):
Second to maybe Wu if you just take what you
think would happen based on this previous year and the
thirty plus starts, that these guys went out there and
had well.

Speaker 4 (27:18):
Check a couple of guys to keep an eye on
tomorrow for the Tigers.

Speaker 3 (27:20):
Kerry Carpenter's four for eight with four bombs off of
George Kirby, by the way, lifetime right field in Detroit,
the laboratorre has four for nine eight for seventeen combined.
Those two guys are and expect both of them in
the lineup tomorrow for Detroit. But somebody said, hey, it
doesn't matter, just win the game. Well, if George Kirby
gets his yits lit up and the Mariners blow through
their bullpen tomorrow and they have to burn through the

(27:40):
pen even if they win, what does that do for
you setting yourself up for Game two and three down
the road.

Speaker 5 (27:47):
Well, that's just said. I love George's upside.

Speaker 13 (27:50):
I think he's the most talented guy in the organization,
most talented pitcher in the organization. That said, I also
have seen George, who I like a lot personally too,
pout on the mound and and you can't have that
in the playoffs. I mean, a guy bobbles the ball
at second base, I can't let you. I can't have
you given up four runs shaking your head on the mound,
not backing up third base. I mean, he's had a

(28:12):
tendency to do that, so to Buggy's point. I mean, yeah,
he's got as good a chance to go out there
and not give the Tigers a chance on Saturday night.
But I also talk about floor Logan is just good
every single start at home. I mean it's I just
don't understand why that's not the logical choice here to
go in nay one.

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Speaker 14 (29:05):
You know, through a bullpen today, and we'll take a
look at how he kind of responds tomorrow and and
make our final decisions as we get a little bit closer.
So still a little bit of an unknown, but you know,
obviously wanting to weigh several factors. They're not trying to
push him too quickly, all.

Speaker 3 (29:19):
Right, Dan Wilson with us yesterday on the radio show.
From Team Mobile, Ian Chuck Dick rejoining us here o
Marin arond table continues. Half the Crew from Jimmy's, Half
the crew from Still Kwame because Cino, our official Major
League Baseball Mariners playoff coverage sponsor, Chuck will start with
you on the the Brian Wu thing. I mean, you
hear what Dan Wilson said yesterday on the radio show,

(29:40):
and I don't know when a guy's like, I don't know,
you know, what's gonna go on with this guy, that
doesn't exactly, you know, make you feel great that Brian
Wo's gonna even pitch at all in this series.

Speaker 5 (29:48):
I bet your thoughts on.

Speaker 13 (29:49):
Him, and I'm not getting a very good feeling about it.
And that's highly disappointing. I mean, I think he's just
such a bulldog and he has been as big a
reason why this team won the Vision as anybody not
named Kyl Rawley this season, and so.

Speaker 5 (30:04):
Yeah, it's very disappointing.

Speaker 13 (30:05):
And man, just seeing his body language trying to answer
questions in the dugout the other day, he did not
look like he was going to pitch this series. And
so that's yeah, that's highly disappointing. I think Bryce can
get the job done, but Bryce has certainly not had
the season Brian Wu's head, so that's a drop off.

Speaker 2 (30:23):
Ian.

Speaker 8 (30:24):
Yeah, I think the the thing that that jumps out
at you is this is this is why everyone has
thought so highly of this team for the last couple
of years, is because unfortunately, you're gonna have to lean
into what you have better than maybe anybody in baseball
outside of maybe Philadelphia. Right is the depth of your
pitching staff you're starting start, you know, like the beautiful
thing about where they're at now, it's almost like a

(30:47):
kind of a double edged sword. Short series. You can
see an upset, but but short series, you don't need
five guys. You don't need four guys. You need three guys,
well one, two, and three. But I'm like, I'm it's
in the first segment today. I'm a Wu fan, man,
I just like, if I'm looking at you know, my
favorite Mariner players of all time outside of Bucky Jacobson

(31:09):
A given the pride to Hermiston outside of him. Uh No,
I mean, like I go back, I mean I remember,
you know, I mean Bob Stintson, the first catcher. I
was a catcher in in you know, Little League. I
remember like guys like that. I am so damn old.
I know Dave, Oh yeah, well I liked him just
because of his build. But yeah no, I mean I
love Wunaylor's my face. I just love Naylor like I

(31:32):
just like a guy that just doesn't you know, he
just wants to kill people. I like that he looks
like he's a Canadian, looks like a hockey player, probably
probably pissed he's not playing hockey right now. But but
Wu has that attitude man, And so that is a bummer.
Because Chuck said it well in the last segment. The
thing with Kirby is maybe what the best stuff like,
like as good as there is talent. But but we
all know with pitching, it's not just that. It's the

(31:54):
between the.

Speaker 7 (31:54):
Ears, and we've seen that with Wu this year. You
watch Wu on the mound.

Speaker 8 (31:57):
I I couldn't hit a curveball eighth grade, so I'd
never played baseball again after that. But like, I gotta
think as a hitter, you see Brian Wu, you don't
like that man, that guy. That guy has no fun.
Top Rail love to have Brian Wu. But we haven't
seen him pitch in the playoffs before. We've seen these
other three pitch, and I like what I see from
all three of these other guys. But to Ian's point

(32:18):
on the depth of the.

Speaker 13 (32:20):
Rotation, look who Detroit is starting in game number one,
a reliever who the last time he picked up a
baseball was two days ago, and he gave up four runs,
including a home run in a third of an inning
out of the pen. Yeah, that is who's stepping on
the mound in inning number one against George Kirby at
t Mobile Park.

Speaker 4 (32:39):
You gotta win that baseball.

Speaker 5 (32:41):
I'm glad, I'm at a casino.

Speaker 7 (32:42):
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Speaker 3 (32:43):
But that well, and you know, Chuck, for me, it's
kind of symbolic because you know, I was talking to
Mark off the air about that, like that's almost border
on embarrassing for me, Like, have a rotation, for god's sakes,
have a rotation that you can count on come playoff time.
And the Tigers just really don't have one right now.
I mean, how how symbolic is it that you're talking
about a baseball team that's coming in here.

Speaker 4 (33:02):
First of all, they've won like four games in.

Speaker 3 (33:05):
The last two and a half weeks the Tigers have
and they pop champagne after two of them.

Speaker 5 (33:09):
One of them was a division champions and the other
one was when they.

Speaker 4 (33:13):
Beat the Guardians the other day.

Speaker 3 (33:14):
Right, So, and they're starting a reliever in a bullpen
day and game in the biggest game of the year.

Speaker 4 (33:21):
It's almost like, man, you can't lose to that team.

Speaker 13 (33:23):
Chuck Well, it's interesting though, I mean, because I don't
think we give enough credit to the Mariners for this reason,
because of how healthy they keep their pitchers. I mean,
this has been several years towards the end of the
year that we've typically got all five guys healthy. I mean,
that doesn't happen in other organizations. The Los Angeles Dodgers
just a year ago and their most important game in

(33:45):
the in the divisional round or was it the Wildcard
round against the San Diego Padres, must win situation. They
don't have a starting pitcher, they have to use their
entire they have to do a bullpen game. And then
somehow magically it worked and it was the biggest game
of their entire postseason push because they went from there
on the ropes to winning the World Series. The Boston

(34:06):
Red Sox and the New York Yankees both had to
go in Game three of the wild Card round. Connley
early two career starts. He looked like he was nine
years old for the Boston Red Sox the other day.
You just don't see organizations getting through the season and
getting till this time of the year with four or
five healthy starting pitchers, But the Mariners typically get that done.

(34:27):
If not for Wu, we would have done it again
this season. So yeah, I think it's definitely a game
you circle, you gotta win. You got to think about
that schoobl guy. He's gonna start forty percent of these
games and he's just absolutely dominant. At times he might
not even let you up off the mat. So yeah,
I think game number one is always the most important
game of any series, and it's definitely going to be

(34:49):
in this one.

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Speaker 4 (36:28):
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Speaker 2 (36:30):
We're at Jimmy's.

Speaker 4 (36:31):
Chuck and Buck are.

Speaker 5 (36:33):
Up at Stall Kwame.

Speaker 3 (36:34):
Mark James rejoins us here from Jimmy's on first and guys,
you can smell it in the air twenty four hours
from now, Mariners and Tigers across the street from T
Mobile Park. Technically about twenty four hours and thirty three minutes.
If you want to get litteral, they'll have the first
pitch tomorrow at T Mobile Park. And I want to
go around the room, guys and just talk about who
the hero is gonna be of this series.

Speaker 4 (36:56):
Who is who is best set up, and Chuck will
start with you. Who is best set up to have a.

Speaker 3 (37:00):
Great series and be the hero that we deserve in
this five game set Chuck against the Tigers.

Speaker 13 (37:06):
First of all, just to show you the mood that
we're in, Bucky and I we're slow dancing together, cheek
to check to the this week in baseball.

Speaker 3 (37:13):
Yeah song that I saw you by the way, I've
got video, Yeah, I want to peek that out.

Speaker 4 (37:18):
Ye hi everybody, I'm Malowen, all right, So look, it's
the year.

Speaker 13 (37:23):
Of cal I bet I'm not gonna pick something as
boring as the you know, the league MVP. As as
my wildcard hero that you're looking for, I really think
Randy or Rose arena Is is the ultimate wildcard X
factor in this entire postseason. First of all, he's had
one of the greatest postseasons individually I've ever seen for

(37:45):
one year, and yet he's also been cold throughout the
month of September. Sometimes when the lights get turned on,
Randy gets a little turned on and he makes silly
decisions out on the baseball field. So that makes him
a little bit of a wildcar. But if he's focused
and he gets off to a good start Saturday night.
I mean, you have a chance to ride. And Randy

(38:07):
Rose Arena can carry an offense. We've seen him do
it in the postseason in the past, so I think
he's a wild card. And I also think that Gino Suarez.
If Gino Suarez can get on a tear, he can
also carry this offense.

Speaker 2 (38:20):
Well, here's the thing.

Speaker 3 (38:21):
Mark's with us, and he's been here for the last
thirty minutes, and you mentioned you and Bucky slow dancing
Chuck Marks meds are starting to wear off. He's starting
to bounce around. Jimmy's like like like a wild caban.
She just jumping at the bit to get back on
the air and share his thoughts. So Mariners win this thing,
whether in three, four or five next Friday.

Speaker 5 (38:40):
Who's the hero gonna be?

Speaker 6 (38:42):
I said at the beginning last hour, and Chuck just
took it all away. And Randy Rose Raigne and a
guy had ten home runs.

Speaker 4 (38:48):
Sam you Chuck.

Speaker 6 (38:49):
In the twenty twenty postseason, he had a OPS. So
twelve seventy three, I don't know, babe, Ruth or Louke
Garrig had an OPS ever in the postseason of twelve
seventy three, and I just think the guy, you know what,
he's just one of those fearless guys that comes up
and I think he's gonna lead this team, and I

(39:10):
think he will be that guy that can lead this team.

Speaker 4 (39:12):
Now.

Speaker 6 (39:12):
Obviously, a guy that has been unbelievable since Jerry Depoto
acquired him has been Josh Naylor. That's right, And and
Josh Naylor, what can you say? And I feel if
the Mariners are able to win the World Series, it's
gonna be because of Josh Naylor.

Speaker 4 (39:26):
But in this particular series, I'm gonna go with Randy
rose Arena. He's that guy. He just doesn't he he has.

Speaker 6 (39:33):
I remember in Boston at the time when they always
say Manny being Manny, right, and not that he's like that,
because Manny was on a on a different planet. But
sometimes in what Chuck kind of alluded to this there,
sometimes Randy's being Randy okay, And I if we could
get that good part, Chuck, then we're gonna see this
guy delivered the way he did for the Rays, leading

(39:54):
them to the World Series in twenty twenty, before they
of course bowed down.

Speaker 4 (39:58):
To the Dodgers because the Dodgers at the payroll in baseball.

Speaker 6 (40:01):
But I'm with Chuck on that, and I think Grandy
rose Arena is the X factor in this series.

Speaker 3 (40:06):
Well, Bucky, I gotta be honest with you, I'm kind
of hoping it's Julio Rodriguez just so you can go
on Twitter and tell everyone how stupid they were for
doubting forty four at the start of the year, which
has kind of become your thing. Right, If anyone's gonna
hammer the fan base for doubting Julio, it's probably gonna
be Bucky Jacobson. Right, there's no question about that. But
this guy's got a nine hundred ops in the second

(40:28):
half of the year after a set. I mean he's
doing what he usually does, right, Bucky starts off slow
and then gets white hot in the second half.

Speaker 5 (40:35):
Yeah.

Speaker 9 (40:35):
Well, I mean it is pretty easy to hammer the
fan base when twelve baby's into a season. They're like,
this guy's a bust. I mean, he's doing things that
we haven't seen anybody do. When it comes to the
question of who's going to be the hero. The beautiful part,
the thing that I think makes every Mariner fan feel
good is it could be any one of nine guys
on any given day, who's the guy that could take

(40:57):
over Randy Roserena has done it, So that's a correct answer.
Cal Rawley has been one of the more clutch guys
in Major League Baseball period. If we if people want
to argue about Judge and cal Rawley, look up their
stats in late and close games. There's it's not even
a comparison of who's who's had more of an impact.
I think that Josh Naylor brings the grit that is

(41:17):
that plays. That's what plays when the when the lights
of the brightest, when the pressure gets the most, is
the more mentally tough person is the person that does that.

Speaker 5 (41:24):
I think he has that.

Speaker 9 (41:25):
I think Polonko has it. Even though last year was
a bad year, He's right up there with the rest
of the with the cal Rawley's as far as the
numbers he's put up in high pressure situations. So to me,
there isn't really a whole heck of a lot of
wrong answers. This is gonna be one where cal Rawley's
going to they're gonna be careful with cal cal They're
going to they're gonna be careful. That doesn't mean they're
not gonna make a mistake. He's got to hammer the

(41:46):
mistakes when he gets one. I think they're gonna try
to be careful with Julio as well. And so we've
seen him in the in the first half of just
about every single season, come out of the zone, wanting
to get off to a good start, wants to go
out there and help pick up the team, and presses
a little too much. The beautiful thing about the postseason,
it's in the second half of the season. So I mean,
I if I say who who I think has the

(42:07):
best chance of carrying this team, I'd say it probably
is Julio Rodriguez.

Speaker 3 (42:11):
Well, the year of Cal, Chuck, I'm with you, and
all I want is for Col just to be naughty
cow this season.

Speaker 9 (42:19):
Naughty cow.

Speaker 3 (42:19):
I want to see a naughty naughty boy this series
against the Tigers. Just destroy that pitching staff and it's.

Speaker 13 (42:25):
Like more a magical year. Do you know that he's
not done writing this story this year? I mean every
it's the year of Col. I mean, there are heroics
on the horizon, so we can come up with a
cute answer, but I mean Cal Rawley is your heavy
favorite to be the hero.

Speaker 4 (42:41):
No question about it.

Speaker 6 (42:42):
And to what you guys are saying about Julio, and
he has been often criticized and and Bucky has stuck
with him, no doubt about it all season long. When
I was calling him the out, Bucky's like, hey man,
it's early and and he did improve to everybody. But
now's the point where you guys talked about guys who
have come up short in the post and big in
the postseason. You look at Andy Pettitt, Kurt Shilling, guys

(43:04):
that come up David Freese with Saint Louis in twenty eleven.

Speaker 3 (43:09):
Borders run an MVP of the World Series, Pat Borders exactly.

Speaker 4 (43:13):
So that's what I'm talking about, and like, I want
to see Julio.

Speaker 6 (43:16):
Julio has a chance because you obviously know Cal became
the biggest transcendent star in the city this season. Now
it's time for Julio to show with all his five
tool ability he can do it in the postseason. Because
I'll tell you all the people in that second half
where we all ate crow bro as I like to say,
including yours truly, if he doesn't come through in the postseason, softy,

(43:39):
guess what we're gonna do say what's up, Julio, Well,
some people will for sure, and look, I mean more
often than not, Chuck.

Speaker 3 (43:46):
As you know, these are bullpen battles, right, you know
in the playoffs where these are generally closer games and
you got to find a way to get through it
with the bullpen. The Mariners have I think the edge
personally when it comes to their bullpen versus Detroit Tigers
do not have an Andres Munos whatsoever? I mean, am
I crazy saying that a fifth thing comes down to
the later innings with a one runner a tie game.

Speaker 5 (44:08):
I like the m's chances. No, that's not crazy at all.

Speaker 13 (44:11):
I don't think they have the best ball, but I
don't even think they have their best bullpen that they've
had over the course of the last three or four years.
But I should think it can get the job done.
I think Caleb Ferguson is going to be really big
in this Tiger Sera.

Speaker 5 (44:23):
Why do you say that? By the way, Well, they
have two hitters.

Speaker 13 (44:26):
Kerry Carpenter who's ruined us and every time he's played us,
and Riley Green, who's their best hitter. They're both left handed,
but they all both have really struggled against lefties. Riley
Green's struggled so much against lefties lately. They pinch hit
for him in the middle of a Game two of
the wild Card against the Guardians because they brought a
lefti in out of the pen. So if you have
two lefties now, you might be able to throw a

(44:48):
Ferguson in there in the sixth then get Riley Green
out of the damn game or a Kerry Carpenter out
of the damn game, and then you still have Spire
to go to later on in the contest. So I
think that could play a big role. Bullpen plays a
huge role at this time of the year, and Detroit
says probably, I think everybody, every Tiger fan would fan

(45:09):
would say they've they've failed them. They were as big
a part of why they collapsed down the stretch did anything.
I mean, Will Vest is their best guy, and Will
Best couldn't even make our bullpen if you remember.

Speaker 5 (45:20):
So, and he's had a very good year.

Speaker 13 (45:22):
But I think we've got a stark advantage in the
bullpen and it is a huge part of winning in
the playoff.

Speaker 4 (45:28):
Yeah, Mark wighing on that, and then Bucky you followed
up go ahead, Oh listen, what you know what Chuck says, right,
the bullpen's going to be huge. It always in.

Speaker 6 (45:35):
It's going to be huge for Detroit tomorrow because they're
starting a guy out of the bullpen. I have a
question call Chuck and Buck and I want to ask
you guys whatever answers first?

Speaker 5 (45:43):
Is that a J.

Speaker 4 (45:44):
Hinch.

Speaker 6 (45:44):
Here's a guy who's won it. He's won it in
twenty seventeen with the Houston Astros. We all know what happened.
He got suspended a couple of years later, and then
he was out of a job and he resurfaced in Detroit.

Speaker 4 (45:54):
He was part of the quote trash cans and that
whole thing.

Speaker 6 (45:57):
How much of an advantage do you believe if a
guy with a World Series ring, who has managed a
team to win it all has over what technically is
a guy completing his first rookie season as a manager.

Speaker 3 (46:12):
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(46:33):
wins those tickets. So Bucky, why do you chime in
with that the aj Hinch factor go ahead?

Speaker 9 (46:38):
Well, I mean their experience helps, There's no doubt about it.
It doesn't guarantee anything. I mean, experience lead you down
a path of I've made this decision before, I feel
better about it. Doesn't matter though. The guy that goes
up there has to then make you look good or
they end up making you look bad. The guy you
bring in and take the ball away from somebody else,
he's got to go in there and shove more than

(46:58):
he then he goes out there and finds barrels. I
think there's something to it now. I think it's less now.
I think the data driven decisions that are made take
a little bit of the gut feel out of it.

Speaker 11 (47:09):
Now.

Speaker 9 (47:10):
I think every single manager has still some gut feel
that they go by. I don't know where what the
degree of that is. With Dan Wilson, I have a
feeling that he has more of a plan as to
what goes on and then if the thing comes off
the rails, then you make a decision. If the thing
stays on the rails, it's a matter of Okay, which
pitch do I go out there between? Or which batter

(47:30):
do I go out there between? And a lot of
times that's set in stone based on well, we're gonna wait,
this is his last one, the next lefty, then we're
gonna bring Gabe Spier in for that guy, or if
it's in the fifth inning, we're gonna bring Caleb Ferguson
in to face that lefty because we'll save Gabe for
a bigger time or a time that maybe has a
little bit more leverage later on in the game. So
I mean, is it an advantage, sure, I mean I'd

(47:53):
always rather have somebody that's been there, that's done that before.
But it doesn't mean, oh you've been there and done
that that you're guaranteed you're going to make the right decision.
It's all based on the guys that get out there
and do it.

Speaker 3 (48:03):
Chuck, Chuck will be a very move that Stella, by
the way, because it's making my mouth water.

Speaker 5 (48:09):
That's rich.

Speaker 16 (48:09):
That's richest Stella in the middle broadcast. I'm not going
to put yourself together, got run some numbers or something.
For God's sakes, But Chuck Wayne on that go ahead.

Speaker 13 (48:20):
I was just gonna say, I find that managers that
get away with cheating have a really big advantage over
man Yeah, I look, I think it is a factor.
I on think I think Bucky answered it well. I
don't think it's some huge factor. But if you know,
if I'm giving a check, Mark, I'm gonna give it
to Hinch over Dan. I'm from an experienced standpoint, and look,

(48:44):
I know everybody says about baseball that the game moves
so slowly. Now when you're making decisions in a playoff
game and you're the manager, it comes at you really fast.
And I think Dan struggled a little bit with the
speed of the game at the beginning of the year.
And I do worry a little bit that now that
the playoff off, that pace quickens.

Speaker 5 (49:01):
Those decisions have to be faster.

Speaker 13 (49:04):
You know, I'm a little worried about that for him,
But I don't think it's gonna get in the way
of us defeating the typer.

Speaker 8 (49:11):
No.

Speaker 3 (49:11):
I agree with that, And I also just kind of
want to go back to something Mark said Bucky a
while back, he said playoff success, and I think we
meant by that, and is making a run a deep
run World Series whatever?

Speaker 2 (49:20):
To me?

Speaker 3 (49:20):
I don't know if that really matters, that these guys
don't have that long sustained history of you know, League Championship,
World Series. I think just being there Bucky in the
moment and seeing the spotlight and what it entails back
in twenty two is.

Speaker 5 (49:35):
A big deal.

Speaker 3 (49:35):
And look, I'm not trying to compare me as a
fifty two year old guy to some twenty five year
old kid playing in the playoffs. But when you're first
playing a golf tournament, right, you're kind of peeking down
your leg. Then you do it again, You're like, hey,
where's the cart girl whatever? Nobody gives it, damn. But
those guys have experience from three years ago. They've been there,
they know what the bright lights are all about. I
don't think the fact that they've never made a run

(49:56):
per se Bucky is that big a deal.

Speaker 9 (49:58):
I don't think so either, And ultimately I don't think
it's going to be an issue necessarily for Dan Wilson either. Again,
there's gonna be probably decisions that work and some that don't.
Hopefully way more that work than the the inverse. But
I do think that he's you know, this is a guy.
You can't be a catcher for as long as he
was in the big leagues and then be around the
game for as long as he's been since he retired

(50:19):
and not have been probably being an armchair manager for
a lot of time. Now you have to make those decisions.
You have to figure out when you're gonna pull the
plug on somebody, and ultimately those things hopefully they work out.
I mean, I think that the idea of when it
comes to experience to get in there your first time,
that the golf tournament analogy is a great one because
yet when all of a sudden there's something on the line,

(50:41):
and usually you play and there's nothing on the line,
or it's minimal in comparison to what you're feeling, pressure
going right, Yeah, one hundred percent if you end up
figuring out, Okay, I know what this feels like. Now
that the nucleus of this team knows what it feels like,
the additions to this team knows what it feels like.
And the beautiful thing is that they've had now, you know,

(51:01):
eighty games or so to kind of figure out together,
do we have to put that undue pressure on ourselves
on any giving it bat.

Speaker 4 (51:07):
Yes, you can.

Speaker 9 (51:08):
Change the course of a city's hopes and dreams with
one swing of the bat, and yet you have to
understand that you can't actually do it in the first
at bat of the first game. It's going to take
a month of those types of things. And I think
that this team is kind of set up where they
all kind of understand.

Speaker 5 (51:25):
Boy, we're pretty good.

Speaker 9 (51:26):
They look around the clubhouse and say, if I don't
go out there and throw up seven zeros, that's fine.
We got a bunch of guys who have shown that
they can come in and pick me up the offense.
If I don't come up and drive a ball in
the gap my first, second, and third ab, that's fine,
the guy behind me might end up doing that. I
think that this team has just the right amount of
experience where they're they're hungry, there's zero complacency. They know

(51:47):
that the goal is not just to break a drought
like it was two three years ago. The goal now
is to win a pennant and then see what you
can do in a seven game series for all the marbles, you.

Speaker 4 (51:57):
Know, softie. I grew up in New England and they
got to see this thing. For a long time.

Speaker 6 (52:01):
They always talked about this curse, this eighty six year curse.
Right's the Red Sox finally overcame in four And I've
heard a little bit of that from people.

Speaker 4 (52:10):
Here in Seattle, say, oh, it's cursed or whatever.

Speaker 6 (52:12):
So I think the fans here to me are the
most diehard fans in baseball because they haven't experienced the
World Series.

Speaker 4 (52:18):
For you though, personally what hurt most? Was it ninety
five or a one?

Speaker 6 (52:25):
For you that where you felt like, man, was it
oh one, one hundred and sixteen games? Is that like
the twenty sixteen Warriors? First of all, First of all,
I asked the questions around here. Okay, okay, that's straight
number two. I mean, you're the pride of Bellevue.

Speaker 2 (52:40):
You put up here.

Speaker 3 (52:41):
You know, I'm the pride of my backyard is but
I'm the pride of I mean, oh one was a
mass maybe maybe my I'm fifth behind my dog. Sorry,
how's that sut? I mean, oh one was was a
gut punch. But I think we know, guys in Chuck
and Buck, that's how baseball works. Right, I mean one
hundred and sixteen wins and you have a seven game
series and anything can happen.

Speaker 9 (53:01):
It's just it is.

Speaker 3 (53:02):
It is almost crazy to me. It's why I kind
of hate the wildcard round. Like, if we're gonna do this,
let's do a series, at least do a five game series. Right,
It's like, I don't even really care who wins the Wildcard.
Let's just get first to two wins, all right, how
about at least a five game series so we have
some kind of an idea of who the better ball
club is. But when you're talking about a seven game
sample of one hundred and sixty two versus a seven

(53:24):
game sample chuck of an eighty two game season the
way they do in the NBA and the NHL.

Speaker 4 (53:29):
Anything can happen.

Speaker 3 (53:30):
And you know, Dick and I were talking about this
the other day about some of these teams that have
moved on. Texas was number seven and wins in baseball
and they won the World Series.

Speaker 4 (53:38):
In twenty three.

Speaker 3 (53:39):
Arizona was thirteenth and wins and they played the World Series.
Philadelphia was fourth in wins, So it's go to be
eleventh and wins in twenty two when they won the
whole damn thing. Atlanta was number twelve and total wins
in twenty one and they won it. So how about
the six Cardinals. It's just it's so lucky. I mean,
you gotta have some luck, man. You gotta have a

(53:59):
great bull pen. You gotta have klutch hitters with balls
the size of boulders, and I think.

Speaker 5 (54:04):
Chuck, these guys do. Yeah, you can't give more outs,
you know, you know, you can't commit errors. I mean,
you're right. It's it's there's no perfect formula.

Speaker 13 (54:14):
It's just like trying to figure out how you should
practice when you have a week off to get ready.
There's no perfect formula. There's no perfect answer out there.
The only thing you can do is number one, just
get in the tournament. So let's just get in the tournament.
It might have been in the tournament four years in
a row, now absolutely mess. We marked things up on
that on a couple of fronts, and so just get
into the tournament. Anything can happen at that point. But

(54:34):
I'll say this, I mean, I think the Mariners, I
mean we'll go ahead and give them the A. J.
Hinch check mark, and they have an absolute, undeniable Ace,
so they're gonna get that check mark. But I think
the Mariners have every other check mark in this series.
I think they have the offense, they have the defense,
they have the speed. They can play the small ball
a little better this year than what they have in
the past. They got the bullpen, they got the starting pitching,

(54:55):
they got the starting pitching depth. So this team, just
on paper, is better team than the Tigers.

Speaker 5 (55:00):
And they're gonna wait that four.

Speaker 3 (55:01):
I love it all right, Well, hey, Predictions, you got
you know what, you blew my last segment. Now there's
nothing left to talk about. For guys sake, Let's let's
do thirteen other people on this pach Let's do this.
It's actually fourteen. Let's come back. We're gonna get Chuck
out here for a segment. Let him get his hands
on that vodka Sota just got delivered there. We'll get
Dick back in here, and then, guys, I think I
want to do this at five point forty five, let's

(55:22):
get everybody back on the air for one round and
we'll talk about how far this team's gonna go and
what the next month will bring for this baseball team.
More on our Mariner Round Table next on ninety three
to three KJRFM.

Speaker 2 (55:34):
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Speaker 9 (55:56):
Brandy, look to the guys, kind of ever buy the
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Speaker 4 (56:02):
Have the Mariners now what everybody charging?

Speaker 12 (56:07):
Randy jentson out there and the fans coming.

Speaker 4 (56:10):
Out on the field.

Speaker 5 (56:12):
Security is going to have a problem.

Speaker 6 (56:15):
But nineteen long years of frustration he is over all right.

Speaker 3 (56:20):
So there's a reason why I'm playing that clip that
was thirty years ago yesterday.

Speaker 5 (56:25):
Wow, what was that?

Speaker 3 (56:27):
And the craziest I've ever gone as a sports fan
was the basis clearing in Luis Soho double because it
was nineteen years we'd never made the playoffs. I was
sitting there watching the game with my mom and dad,
and I grabbed my dad and fell on the ground.
Underneath my seat's a pile of humanity. You realized it
was done. You're up five to nothing and the seventh
thing against Mark Langston and the game is over.

Speaker 4 (56:48):
Just lost my frecking mind more so than Edgar's double.

Speaker 3 (56:52):
Absolutely absolutely lost my mind when that happened, just lost
my mind. That was thirty years ago, Ian yesterday, thirty
years ago. This coming Wednesday is the double that Dick
just talked about. Right, It's time to kind of get
something else on that mantle next to those two events,
don't you like?

Speaker 8 (57:09):
Yeah, I agree, I'll be honest with you, Dave. When
I hear that, I all I think of is Dave.
The other day, I just I man, man, I miss him.

Speaker 4 (57:17):
I big.

Speaker 8 (57:18):
That was the voice of my childhood for all for
a lot of us, that was the voice of our childhood.
And you hear him, and it's just, you know, there's
there's a couple of things. I wish Dave the house
would have seen this team have true playoff success. And
I wish we would have seen Felix in a playoff game.
Those are like the two things you can't ever get
it back, because Seeger, what about Kyle Sieger Dick's favorite player?

(57:41):
I get it, You're right, great writer, But you know,
like we were talking about, just like the attitude and
all that, and no one had a better one and
more of a bulldog mentality than Fields.

Speaker 2 (57:52):
Right.

Speaker 3 (57:52):
Well, here's the thing I mean, and I and you
almost got me, You almost got me emotional there. But
the fact that you kept going you kind of saved
my ass because I have always said when the Mariners
make the World Series, it will not be the same
because Dave Kneehouse will not be there to call it right.

Speaker 4 (58:08):
So let's win it for him. Yeah, let's get there
for him.

Speaker 3 (58:11):
And the conversation and Dick, you can weigh back in
on this is that have they already made this year's success,
no matter what happens against the Tigers as twenty twenty
five already a success.

Speaker 5 (58:20):
I separate it completely.

Speaker 13 (58:21):
I mean, I just the more and more I think
about it, this has been a massive success in twenty
twenty five.

Speaker 7 (58:26):
But we start over now.

Speaker 13 (58:28):
We start over now, And if they lose to the
Detroit Tigers, then it was a massive, massive playoff meltdown
because they should not lose to the Detroit Tigers. They
lose to the Yankees, the Blue Jays. Hey man, that's
a coin toss in my opinion. So that's not a failure.
You lose to a team that is definitely worse than you,
which I think the Tigers are.

Speaker 6 (58:48):
That's an issue Mark first, and then you can go ahead,
Hey softy, let me just say this. When Depoto pulled
off the trades for Naylor and Suarez, I got the
Mariners to win the World Series at plus one thousand.
Right now, they are in Vegas and any sportsbook you
look at, they are the second highest favorite time to
one win the World Series, behind the Dodgers. Dodgers actually
favored over Phillies. So Vegas thinks that the Mariners have

(59:10):
a better chance to win the World Series.

Speaker 4 (59:12):
Over the Phillies.

Speaker 6 (59:13):
So that's how much Vegas looks at the Mariners to win.
So right now, it's World Series or busts. There's no
reason why that team should not be playing late October
and maybe November.

Speaker 5 (59:23):
Baseball.

Speaker 8 (59:24):
Well, I just think I think what Dixon is interesting
about separating, and I guess maybe I would do that too.
We had a great we had a fun year, yeah,
like and and sports are about having fun. And and
you know, we haven't forty nine years six playoff appearances.
I mean, there hasn't been a lot of that here
and that's why people are frustrated and all that. I
will be really disappointed if this team doesn't get to

(59:45):
the ALCS. I think they're a better baseball team than Detroit.
But we talked about in the first segment five games,
what the hell? Who knows what can happen? What happens
if Kirby goes out and lays an egg against a
bullpen start, and then all of a sudden, Scooble comes
in and decides that maybe what scares what should scare
the hell out of us, is that Schoobul comes in,
you know, walks around the campus in SEATTLEU on First

(01:00:06):
Hill and says, damn, I'm Trek Scubale, Like what the hell? Like,
how have I struggled against these guys? And turns into
that guy again? Because that could certainly happen A short story,
so right, I will say I will be really disappointed.
I won't call it a failure, but I'll be disappointed
if they don't get to the ALCS because they're a
better baseball team, as everyone has talked about for the
last hour and a half.

Speaker 3 (01:00:25):
I just think, how are we judging these guys. We're
judging them by postseason success. I mean that's how baseball
team should be judged. And yes, I mean Dick. I
get your point that they haven't won a division title
in twenty four years, and you got to give him
credit for that. But the reason why we're giving him
credit for it is because they haven't done it in
twenty four years. That's why we went nuts in twenty
twenty two, because it's been twenty one seasons. If the
playoffs had been a regular thing for these guys, it

(01:00:48):
wouldn't have been that big a deal.

Speaker 7 (01:00:49):
Softy, he thought it is a big deal, Softy.

Speaker 8 (01:00:52):
Here's a thing. The trade. When they went in and
made the trades again, I'll kind of go back. I
think Gino was really symbolic like that was like, Hey,
we're gonna prove that we're gonna go out and get
a guy, you know, bring a guy back if we
want to bring that. And but when they traded for Naylor,
they traded for Naylor saying we're missing a piece, yes,
and we think this team is good enough to take
a run. They're not trading for Naylor to get knocked

(01:01:14):
out in the Alds. No, they're trading for Naylor to
take a run. Two guys whose deals are up right.

Speaker 3 (01:01:19):
I mean again, I think it was you that said
it They don't often do that, and they did it
because they want to win it to day, all right,
it's gonna break.

Speaker 4 (01:01:25):
We'll get bucking Chuck back in here.

Speaker 2 (01:01:27):
We'll go round the room.

Speaker 3 (01:01:29):
How does this story end? How does the twenty twenty
five Mariner story end?

Speaker 5 (01:01:33):
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Speaker 2 (01:01:52):
To they get.

Speaker 4 (01:01:55):
Touch cards leaving it? Well, you mentioned it Suarez and Naylor.
You think those guys are back next year?

Speaker 11 (01:02:09):
I think we'll look at those kinds of issues after
the season's over, and you know it's ultimately on Justin
and Jerry to make those decisions.

Speaker 5 (01:02:18):
I would say not.

Speaker 11 (01:02:20):
In juxtaposition to your question, we have some unbelievable talent.

Speaker 4 (01:02:26):
John Stanton, Mariner chairman. Guys is with us a couple
hours ago.

Speaker 3 (01:02:29):
We'll do the replay coming up at about six thirty,
and I've just gotta laughing as if Stanton saying, Hey,
those guys walk, don't blame me, Blame Justin and those
guys getting out of here. But let's let's go one
guy that signs in front of the exactly exactly, let's
go round the room.

Speaker 4 (01:02:45):
We got three guys up.

Speaker 3 (01:02:46):
It'slawal Becauseino, Bucky, Chucky in ferness, Me, Mark, James, Dick
Fane here at Jimmy. So let's start with the three
guys on the ridge. Chuck will start with you, Bucky,
and you're up next. How does this story end? Prediction time?
Right here, Rylin's favorite segment, Prediction time. How does the
two thousand and twenty five season story end for the Mariners?

Speaker 4 (01:03:06):
Chuck, go ahead, Uh well, I definitely.

Speaker 13 (01:03:08):
Think World Series, And then I think it's kind of
hard to It's kind of hard with Philadelphia having dominated
us not too long ago to kind of forget about that.
But man, if we're gonna go as far as saying, hey,
World Series, let's take him to win it. So I'm
gonna go Mariners over the Philadelphia Phillies.

Speaker 3 (01:03:26):
And seven guy thrilling seven games when the whole freaking
Bucky we got a parade and John Stanton and I
are holding hands. He promised we could hold hands if
they won the World Series and had a parade, So
I love it.

Speaker 9 (01:03:38):
How about you, Bucky, I'm gonna kiss John standing on
the back of his neck, heavy breathing and all if
we were serious, and he right now just got terrified.
I am certain of it.

Speaker 4 (01:03:48):
I'm wow, I'm not as far as you'll go. I'll
kiss the back of his ass. Are you kidding me?

Speaker 2 (01:03:52):
All right?

Speaker 4 (01:03:55):
You do you?

Speaker 9 (01:03:55):
He's gonna be getting a lot of loving then, because
I think this team gets to the World Series, and
then it's I was telling Ian in between segments that
there is a devastating way that these playoffs can feel
at the end of it, and then there's a way
that you could maybe not win it or not even
get to the World Series, and it's like, well, that's baseball.

Speaker 7 (01:04:14):
That's the way that it is.

Speaker 9 (01:04:15):
And so lining this thing up again and get another
crack at it. That said, I feel a little bit
like this is the team like the twenty thirteen Seahawks.
I feel like there's a little bit of a destiny
type thing. There's a story. Yeah, they're gonna the Broncos
in the World Series. It's not even gonna be a game.
I mean, I just feel like there's something about it

(01:04:35):
that there's a feel with the squad, there's a feel
with the city that there's something special going on. I
don't think it's gonna be easy.

Speaker 4 (01:04:41):
I don't think we would want it to be easy.

Speaker 9 (01:04:43):
Right If they I wouldn't be surprised if they win
this one in four, and I wouldn't be surprised if
the next two series go all the way to Game seven.

Speaker 5 (01:04:49):
Okay, time a second.

Speaker 3 (01:04:50):
I'm asking you for prediction, and you gave me like
five different possibilities. What do you think winning the World
Series and win the whole thing, win the whole thing seven.

Speaker 7 (01:04:58):
That's gonna be high optane.

Speaker 5 (01:05:00):
Okay, Ian, go ahead.

Speaker 8 (01:05:01):
First of all, I wish you wouldn't have played that
cut from Stanton because now I'm pissed, Like I just
hated that. I hated that because now I know that,
now I know my favorite player, Josh Naylor's.

Speaker 5 (01:05:11):
Not coming back. That's right, Set, I like it.

Speaker 7 (01:05:14):
I think Bucket what Bucky says is good.

Speaker 8 (01:05:16):
I like that because I think you could say Naylor specifically,
and maybe Gino. Those are Bennett and April, right, that's
Bennett and Abril. Those are the two people. Forget the
two missing pieces? Were those two guys from twenty twelve
to twenty thirteen. They were the difference makers the next year.
Maybe Percy, but he was crazy. So let's just go
with those two guys. I think they're gonna get to
the World Series. Screw it, they're gonna win it.

Speaker 5 (01:05:40):
Yeah, yeah, you know.

Speaker 8 (01:05:42):
What, Well, first of all, I think this is I
think this is it. We've been We've waited for forty
nine years. I'm still sick of looking at that thing.
You know, they've never been the World Series, never be
in the World Series, Right, I think they get there,
And I'm with Chuck, screw it, get there and Cal
said it best?

Speaker 5 (01:05:56):
Are we a delay?

Speaker 4 (01:05:57):
Just go win it?

Speaker 8 (01:05:58):
Right?

Speaker 5 (01:05:59):
That's right?

Speaker 3 (01:06:00):
Why does Dick? Why does this year feel different? I
mean we just homers living in the moment thing? Or
does this actually feel different than it has?

Speaker 13 (01:06:08):
No, it's it's felt different since the trade deadline. This
is a great baseball team. It was not a great
baseball team, but it's a great baseball team now.

Speaker 5 (01:06:15):
Over the last month.

Speaker 13 (01:06:16):
Yes, it is a great it's a great baseball team
since they've added those two guys at the corners, and
it's the best baseball team in the American League, and
so I will just lean and say the best baseball
team in the American League is going to make.

Speaker 5 (01:06:29):
The World Series, the World Series.

Speaker 13 (01:06:31):
But I don't think they're the best team in baseball, right.
I think the Phillies are the best team in basketball.
So I've I've got them losing.

Speaker 4 (01:06:37):
To the Phillies.

Speaker 3 (01:06:37):
Well, and Mark, you know, the best team in baseball
doesn't always win the World Series, right, I mean again,
just just getting there. You know, Washington was had the
eighth eighth most wins in baseball in twenty nineteen, and
they beat the number one seeded Astros in the World
Series five years ago to claim the championships. So it's

(01:06:58):
not always the best team that wins. But I want
to get Mark's thought on this, how this story ends,
real quick? Go ahead, well and no, listen you and Chuck. Obviously,
the Phillies are great.

Speaker 6 (01:07:07):
I mean there's no question about they're missing their Asack Wheeler.
Without Zach Wheeler, I don't think they have enough to
get there. I think, ultimately, who's the team that is
the template in baseball, the LA Dodgers. This is gonna
be a WCWS. It's gonna be a West Coast World Series. Yeah,
and the Seattle Mariners versus the guy that I wish
would come to Seattle that would be the biggest hero

(01:07:27):
here in Seattle sports history if he played for the Mariners,
Joe Hey o Tani. In my opinion, this is the
modern day Bay Ruth. I think the Mariners win it.
They win it all in six games over the Dodgers.
I don't think the Dodgers are as good this year
as they were last year. And I think Seattle will
celebrate and party like it's nineteen seventy nine and twenty thirteen.

Speaker 5 (01:07:46):
I love it.

Speaker 4 (01:07:47):
Well, guys, I gotta tell you.

Speaker 3 (01:07:48):
I'll just say this, and you three knuckleheads are up
there and still call me Bucky, Chuck and Ian where
at Jimmy's And there is a cheerleader convention going all
straight here, yeah, right now.

Speaker 4 (01:08:00):
And I'm taking that as an awesome sign.

Speaker 3 (01:08:03):
I don't know what the hell the connection is to baseball,
but I have taken that as an unbelievable sign that
this team is gonna make a run. They're changing, they
are drinking, and they're having fun. This this feels like
it's their time, right, I mean, if not, if not,
now then when right And you know what. I said

(01:08:23):
this to Dick and Jackson a couple of days ago, guys,
and I don't know what it is. Maybe a premonition.
I go back to two thousand and two thousand and
one ninety five. I feel like the Mariners and Yankees
will play in the Alcs and the Mariners will have
to slay the Demon. They'll slay the Giants to get
to the World Series and beat the Yankees and make
the World Series. I think they lose the World Series,
but I think this is ze. We're gonna cross one

(01:08:44):
big to do off our bucket list. Bucket can see
half your face there, and the Mariners make the World
Series and this year is a massive success. Chuck buck Ian, Mark, Dick, listen,
your next paychecks will reflect your efforts on this show.

Speaker 4 (01:08:58):
You get in doc thirty percent on your next payday.

Speaker 3 (01:09:01):
Message, great job, guys, good stuff, big thanks heving this
la kwame Casino. Thanks for doing this, boys, and we'll
talk to you and hear your Monday at six am.
All right, see you, Chuck buck Ian, Furness, Mark and
Dick with us a little marin a round table. Dick's
not going anywhere Bill Krueger gonna join us next on
ninety three to three KJRFM,