October 8, 2025 • 35 mins
Softy and Dick react to the Mariners game 4 loss in Detroit, we hear from players in the locker room after the game, how scared are you for game 5 in Seattle vs Tarik Skubal?
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
How's it right now?
Speaker 2 (00:00):
At top of the ninth day, a three nothing fifth
inning lead at one point has melted away and turned
into a nine to three deficit in the top of
the night with two outs. So, barring a Christmas miracle
here or a sixth Night of Honika miracle or a
powerball winning type miracle, the Mariners will play on Friday
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at either what one forty I believe, or five o'clock
in the afternoon at T Mobile Park. And you know,
Ian and I were talking about this on the air.
Off the air, you know the anger coming in the
text line. People I met at Dan Wilson for Yank
and Bryce Miller. They're mad at this guy. They're mad
at that guy. And I get it. I mean, people
are emotional, and you know we're all fans, but I'm
just kind of bummed out right now, right I'm more
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bummed out. And I looked Dick. I mean, obviously, the Mariners.
If I would have told you before the season started,
game number five, one game to advance to the Alcs,
and you're at home on a Friday afternoon in front
of forty seven thousand of your friends, I think back
in March, if I told you that you probably would
have taken it. Yes, But then if I add in
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the caveat that you got to beat a pitcher for
a fourth time in one year, I don't know. I
think there's gonna be a lot of nervous energy. I mean,
I will be totally truthful with you, Dick. And the
game just ended nine to three. Well, we'll get the
open in a second. Here, I am scared out of
my ever loving mind for Friday's game against the Tigers
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and Trek Scooble.
Speaker 1 (01:28):
I just looked it up on Ai.
Speaker 2 (01:29):
According to goo Ai, no team has ever beaten a
single pitcher four times in one year in the history
of Major League Baseball.
Speaker 1 (01:36):
Really, it's never happened.
Speaker 2 (01:37):
Never well, because first of all, the guy's got to
face the team four times.
Speaker 3 (01:41):
Now, you'd think in the air of playing like your
division twenty one times in a season.
Speaker 1 (01:46):
That's what this says here.
Speaker 2 (01:48):
And it may be a joke, it may be wrong,
but I do think that the more you ask him
the team against one person, the heart of the proposition.
Speaker 1 (01:56):
Becomes yeah, I think so.
Speaker 3 (01:58):
But I will say that you can beat the Tigers
on Friday without beating Trek Scubele Trek Scubel can go
seven innings and give up three hits in one run.
But if you have if you've got George Kirby slash
Luis Castillo who could be available slash hell, Logan Gilbert.
Speaker 1 (02:16):
Could give you an inning or.
Speaker 3 (02:18):
Two if you needed to, Like, you've got all hands
on deck in that game. If you can just match
Trek scouobles, let's just say seven innings one run, then
it becomes an eighth to ninth inning bullpen battle.
Speaker 1 (02:31):
And you got brash and Munios and they don't.
Speaker 2 (02:33):
And I like that. Well, no, there's no question about that.
That I think tomorrow is you do whatever you got
do to win the game, the damn game. I mean,
you go out there and if a guy's arms falling off,
he sow at back off right right, it doesn't matter.
But I just think, and again, I mean, is it
a fifty to fifty proposition? Is it a fifty two
to forty eight proposition? I mean, Mike got We've gone
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from talking about why are we starting George Kirby in
game number one to thinking yesterday after Logan's Jim, if
they would have gone with Logan Castillo Kirby, they may
have swept him. So now we're talking about having a
Beata guy for a fourth time in a single season.
And again, well, we'll talk to Bucky about this as
soon as he's on the phone. I don't really have
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a really negative thing to say in a lot of
ways about what decisions Dan Wilson made today. I did
get a little bit nervous when they went out for
a mound visit with Bryce Miller and decided to keep
him in there for one more batter, and that was
obviously a mistake. But guys, Bizardo had his worst outing
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in two months. Gabe Speier had his worst outing in
a month. If I can't count on my best relievers
in the most pressure packed situations of the year to
deliver for me, then what can I count on.
Speaker 1 (03:49):
So we'll get to all that.
Speaker 2 (03:50):
We'll get some of your phone calls at some point,
text lines open, We got a lot to get to.
As the show goes on, We're gonna maneuver some stuff
and basically keep this thing open for reaction to what
happened in Detroit for the next couple of hours. Let's
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Speaker 2 (04:29):
All right, Chuck is in Detroit, Bucky is in Detroit.
I believe Chuck is in the clubhouse. But what do
you say we go back to the America Park press
box and visit with a guy who I'm sure is
just as bummed as we are, Bucky Jacobson standing by
Detroit and Bucky. First of all, Man, thanks for doing this.
And then second of all, your thoughts, big guy, on
what we just saw.
Speaker 1 (04:49):
The floor is yours? Go oh boy?
Speaker 5 (04:53):
Yeah, bummer to say the least, especially the way in
which it started, the way in which they were playing,
the way in which they were just kind of hacking
on little single digits here and there before the wheels
absolutely fell off and it turned into a laugh or
I mean, being here at this park, there was really
right there about the bottom of the fourth inning, they
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were starting to booth their own team when they were
getting out, they were starting to turn on them a
little bit. And then there was even some more of
that in the fifth when the Mariners tacked on the
final run that they were going to tack on. And
then the fifth inning came and obviously Bryce Snowy gets
into a little bit of trouble. There'd be debate as
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to win and where you've got to take somebody out
in that situation. But you know, they pulled him out
and then all of a sudden, you bring in one
of your your better relievers, one of your more consistent guys,
and games fired and he he just absolutely stunk it up.
It just was not his day. Did not look like
he had the same life on his fastball, and obviously
he got hurt, and everybody came in after him got
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hurt as well.
Speaker 3 (05:57):
Yeah, I think it's you know, we're always need your
looking Outkay. What the manager would do? Would the manager do?
But I totally agree with Softy. I mean he just
mentioned this is on the players, man, This is on
Gabe Spier, This is on Bizardo who reverted to the
mop today. And you know, did you find anything that
Dan Wilson did wrong?
Speaker 5 (06:18):
I mean, you know, in hindsight now, I mean, I'm
one that I won't really change my thoughts on something
in hindsight, even if it looks like, oh, well, that
would have worked out better or couldn't have worked out worse.
I'm not going to do that because in the midst
of the game atally, you don't have that option as
a manager, right You make a call and then you
live with the results of the whole thing. I might
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have been a little quicker. I mean, Bryce Miller was
mowing him down, and so it's one of those If
I looked at Bryce Miller and he was having more trouble,
then I probably would have pulled him. The first time
somebody got on there in the fiftheen just said, okay,
here we go, let's pitch with the lead and without
any traffic. Really, once he got a couple of guys on,
then he I think he pulled the trigger there at
the right time. I think he brought in the guy
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and inspire he's proven to be a guy that has
the stuff to get out. Obviously the lefties that were
coming up, but even some rieties at that point I mean,
I agree if that's what Sophy was saying, is that
the players just didn't execute.
Speaker 6 (07:13):
The players just didn't play the way that they could have.
Speaker 5 (07:15):
I mean, if you were to tell me that you
got Bryce Miller goes out there and ultimately.
Speaker 6 (07:20):
He gave him give it up one.
Speaker 5 (07:21):
Run, but really two of them, because Spire gave up
one of his as well. If you were telling me
Bryce Miller, Spire, Bizardo, and Vargas right now, obviously Jackson
probably wouldn't have been in there unless this thing got
out of hand like it did. If you have told
me that's the way that it looks, I probably would
have thought he won the ballgame. I most certainly would
not have thought that you gave up nine runs. And
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so no, I'm gonna I'm not gonna second guess any
of the decisions. Obviously, I think there's if there was
one in the midst of the game, it was And
it kind of leads back to a couple of days
ago when they were talking about Carpenter and they were
talking about who's the other dude on their squad that
is as a big hitter that they end up I
was thinking about.
Speaker 6 (08:03):
It, Green, Rightley Green Riley Green.
Speaker 5 (08:05):
I was thinking to myself, Okay, they're moving guys around,
and how do they do that.
Speaker 6 (08:09):
Well, they're trying to play the game.
Speaker 5 (08:11):
As to what is Dan Wilson going to do to
bring guys into combat are kind of our power lefties. Well,
they've actually can hit for Riley Green before when you
have a lefty against him. They didn't decide to do
that in the inning when they brought gave back out
to start that inning and he ends up going deep
on it. And so to me, that was one where
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I think that that was an aj Henschho's a good manager.
As much as I disliked the guy, he's a good manager.
He knows he knows how to call a game and
manage a clubhouse. I think that that was one where
he kind of was seeing I don't think games Spider
has the same life on his stuff right now. I
don't think he has the same execution and location that
he normally does. I'm gonna go ahead and leave my
guy in there, because he does have a bunch of
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home runs this season. So that would have been one
where maybe I would have thought that he maybe got
somebody played chess against him when he was playing checkers. Ultimately, again,
that just looks that way and feels that way more
because of the way it worked out. Well.
Speaker 2 (09:04):
Bucky Jacobson again is with us. In Detroit Mariners lose
nine to three. If you got called to a meeting
in the fifth inning of three and nothing, you come
back and hear this postgame, say, what the hell just happened? Right, well,
a bullpen melted down is what happened, Gabe Spier Bizarro Vargas.
Seven earned runs combined, including three bombs between those three
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guys who have been normally pretty good for this baseball team.
And you know, look, I Bucky, go back to other
situations in the game. Top of the fourth bases juiced
nobody out and you get one on a roblest double
play fielders choice. You had a chance there to let's
face it, step on their friggin throats and you let
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them off the hook.
Speaker 1 (09:48):
And that to me.
Speaker 2 (09:49):
When they did that, when Detroit did that, I felt like,
you know what, I'll take the run. But god darn it,
did that feel like a gigantic missed opportunity, Bucky, right there.
Speaker 5 (10:00):
Huge missed opportunity, And I mean, yeah, I mean that's
one where that's exactly what you do.
Speaker 6 (10:05):
Otherwise, you leave the door open for them to come back.
Speaker 5 (10:08):
If you just have a sack fly, possibly just a
ball that is a sack fly and moves another runover
where maybe you can get your first crooked number of
the game in that inning. I think that you quite
possibly make it feel a little bit less. You obviously
don't feel the same when you're up three zip. When
they scored their first run, you could feel the energy
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in the ballpark change. You could feel them go wow,
because three to one just feels different than four to one.
Playing and simple, it feels like you don't have as
big of a mountain to climb. I'll say this, Rob
List in that situation, that was a good pitch to
swing act. I don't know how you get on top
of that pitch to hit that ground ball the way
that he does.
Speaker 6 (10:45):
I mean it's.
Speaker 5 (10:45):
Because if your approach is I'm going to get to
the bottom half of a ball, you swing and follow
that thing back, or you hit that thing in the
air to center field or a right center field, it's
almost guaranteed it was.
Speaker 6 (10:54):
Up and away. It was a good pitch.
Speaker 5 (10:56):
He basically made the pitch into the situation that you
would want, and Robis didn't execute the swing that we
should he needed Bucky.
Speaker 1 (11:04):
Is every starter available for Friday?
Speaker 3 (11:05):
Logan pitched eighty five pitches Tuesday, Castill eighty five pitches Sunday,
Kirby ninety four pitches on Saturday.
Speaker 1 (11:12):
Are all three of.
Speaker 3 (11:13):
Those guys available for at least some part of the game?
And who do you start between Kirby and Castile? Is
it automatically Kirby just because he's got an extra day
of rest.
Speaker 5 (11:24):
Oh boy, that's a rough one, man. I mean, I
bet you they will go with Castile. I think that
they will rely on the rock, that this the foundation,
the fact that he's kind of the teeth of the
staff which his team is built on. If I just
got instinct right now, I would think that's probably where
they go. I can make an argument as to where
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George Kirby might have the best obviously has the better stuff.
I think I think he has more of a chance
about doing if you if you just go out there
and say, well, we're gonna have to go against snowball,
and let's just say he's gonna go seven innings and
give up one run due Do I think has a
bet to matching that pitch for pitch.
Speaker 6 (12:01):
I think that that's George.
Speaker 5 (12:03):
When it comes to Logan, I don't know for sure
if I would think, I mean, he's live. It's it's
the get into your season, right, and so he's live.
It would have to be extra innings and you're out
of pitchers and he goes up to him and says,
I'm good to go.
Speaker 6 (12:18):
Right.
Speaker 5 (12:19):
So he's not going to be sitting there in, you know,
just a hoodie. He's going to have his jersey on,
he'll have some spikes laced up. But I don't think
that that's really a possibility unless, like I said, you
get into the fourteenth to fifteen fifteenth inning and then
all of a sudden, I let's go ahead and run
this thing out there right.
Speaker 1 (12:34):
Well, I think it's guys.
Speaker 2 (12:35):
It's funny for me because it kind of comes back
to the conversation we were having when we first began
discussing a playoff rotation, which was like early September, right
on the radio show, and I would always ask the question,
Bucky again, Bucky Jacobson with us from Detroit where the
EMS lose Game four nine to three, Game five coming up,
on Friday, either one forty or five o'clock PM, depending
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Speaker 6 (13:07):
By the way, perfect.
Speaker 2 (13:08):
So the question then, for me, Bucky, becomes this, we
I think can both agree. All of us can agree.
It's either going to be George Kirby or Luis Castillo
starting on Friday.
Speaker 1 (13:18):
That's it. One of those two guys will start that game.
Speaker 2 (13:21):
Which one do you have more confidence in coming out
of the bullpen? If you need to go to your
bullpen fast and you and you have a Ryan Franklin
type two thousand and one, I need four innings out
of you or whatever. Which one of those guys? We
can talk about it in two ways, Bucky, which one's
better suited to start and which one's better suited to
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come out of the pen if needed on Friday.
Speaker 5 (13:46):
I would say I would probably go with the younger guy,
would be capable. He has less time set in his ways,
you know, I mean Luis Castillo has been around, no
for sure, if he's ever had any he has none.
Speaker 6 (14:04):
Er right, yeah, never done it. So it's just it's
a it's teaching.
Speaker 5 (14:08):
An old dog new tricks right now. I mean, I
could sit here again and play both sides of this.
I would imagine, because he's a veteran, because he understands
what's on the line, that he's going to be more
calm between the years than somebody that's considerably younger than
his That said, if they ended up going with Luis Castillo,
it's going to be obviously a short leaf.
Speaker 6 (14:29):
It's going to be a short leash on everybody.
Speaker 5 (14:30):
You can't allow anybody to get in a whole bunch
of trouble and think, well, we're just gonna let him
wiggle off this like you do during the regular season.
If that's the route they win, if they went Castillo
to start, and again that's a that's a great debate
that we're going to have, you know, today, tomorrow, and
and and the rest of the season, depending on how
Game five goes, or the rest of the year, depending
on how how Game five goes, If they were going
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to go Luis Castille, or if they were going to
just pick one of those two to start and the
other is going to be the first one.
Speaker 6 (14:58):
To come in if they have a quick hook, then.
Speaker 5 (15:01):
I think that you could get George Kirby out there
and get loose, right.
Speaker 6 (15:04):
He basically goes to that same thing.
Speaker 5 (15:07):
He's just not getting as loose right off the bat,
but he's out there essentially thinking almost I'm getting loose
like it's a rain delay, right. I'm just kind of
slowly keeping myself warm, and when I see a base
knock and then a walk, I'm ramping it up because
I'm coming in if even falls behind on the next hitter.
Speaker 1 (15:25):
No, I agree with that.
Speaker 2 (15:25):
I think you're exactly right, and I think you're right
in your sense, Bucky. I think your gut's going to
be right that Luis Castillo is going to start this
game on Friday.
Speaker 1 (15:34):
But we will see.
Speaker 2 (15:35):
But hey, coming back home, there's a lot more to
get to stay with us through the break, Bucky.
Speaker 1 (15:40):
Chuck is out there.
Speaker 2 (15:41):
As well in the clubhouse, and man, Bucky, you've been
in clubhouses like this before. I'm sure those guys are dejected,
but they got a rally, got to find a way
to get it off their back and get it together
for Friday's game against the Tigers. And Tarrek Scooble and
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Speaker 4 (16:40):
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Speaker 2 (16:55):
All right, we're back on a busy Wednesday. Mariners lose
nine to three to the Detroit Tigers in Game four
of the American League Division Series, Bucky Jacobson, Well, rejoin
us in just a second.
Speaker 1 (17:07):
You want to do Logan Gilbert right here? Is that right?
Speaker 2 (17:09):
Logan Gilbert in the Mariner clubhouse after this loss with
Chuck Powell.
Speaker 7 (17:14):
Let's listen to Chuck Powell here in the clubhouse with
Logan Gilbert. What can you say tough one tonight? You
didn't play obviously, you didn't pitch obviously, but but I
mean talk about your team and it's resilience and how
Logan Gilbert's not worried how you're going to bounce back
from this.
Speaker 8 (17:32):
Yeah, I think any time in the year we've gotten
in a point where we had to win, or things
had to change or whatever, we've kind of come through.
So I think we're in a really good spot. Our
arms are ready to go, our bats are good, and
so obviously you want to win this one. But I
think going back to T Mobile especially, it's really hard
to beat us in Seattle.
Speaker 7 (17:51):
I know how close you guys are as pitchers, and
we were talking about it a lot on today's show,
and so when a guy like Gabe who's been so
good all year along and Bizardo has been so good
all year long struggle like they did in a big moment.
What do you guys do to rally around them and.
Speaker 6 (18:08):
Pick them up?
Speaker 8 (18:08):
Yeah, it doesn't change anything. I mean that's they've proven
who they are for years now, so stuff looks great.
We have all the confidence in the world and those
guys and they've saved my runs and other runs plenty
of times. So, like I said, I think our arms
were in a really good position.
Speaker 7 (18:26):
The entire crowd in Detroit felt like they'd given up.
I mean, they just felt like they were dead in
the water. How were you guys feeling before they started
turning things around?
Speaker 8 (18:37):
I mean, I thought we did a good job for
most of the two games, kind of taking the crowd
out of it. Even getting the early start today Bruce
so great. We got a couple of runs right away,
So from that standpoint, things looked good. And I mean
there were some MPCs too, Like it wasn't sold out
or anything, so it's kind of crazy to see that
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in a playoff game. But I think, just focus on
what we can do and get ready for Keep in
mind he can overhear you. But what did you think
of Bryce today? I don't want to be too nice Yeah,
he look good. He look really good. I told him
after that was probably the best I've seen him in
a long time. And that's how he's been for a
couple of weeks now in bullpens and even games. But
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stuff wise and execution, everything was there. So it's fun
to see. Well, you think Friday is going to be
like Loud, It's gonna be fun. Good luck man, Thank you,
thank you.
Speaker 2 (19:30):
There you go, Chuck Potwood, Logan, Gilbert, Bucky Jacobson rejoins
us on the air, and Bucky Logan, you know a
little quip there about the lack of fans and the stands.
You know, I made a crack on Twitter that I
thought there was a lot of fans dressed up as
empty seats in this game. It was kind of a
soft environment, it looked on TV. But I don't know
how much that stuff really matters in baseball, Bucky, you
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tell me, maybe more so in football, but maybe not
as much in baseball.
Speaker 5 (19:54):
What do you think, well, given team, you know, certain
team feed off of that. I'm there's been times you
guys have been watching sports and talking sports, covering sports
for long enough that you can remember times when a
team like Tampa Bay, for example, when their team isn't
any good. Even when their team is good, nobody stows up.
But when their team isn't very good, they're usually really
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bad at home, really bad, because if you're not a
very good team, and then you just kind of feel
like you're playing in an empty costo building. There it
feels at times like there's not a lot to play for. Now.
You are obviously playing for yourself, you're playing for your
own career.
Speaker 6 (20:31):
You're playing to try to stick.
Speaker 5 (20:32):
In the big leagues and be on that team when
they eventually turn into a good squad. But there's times
in the middle of this season when it's hard to
get up. And so that thing that's on the outside
that you don't have any control of, which is how
loud are the fans and how how many seats are
filled with fans of yours rooting and cheering for you.
That can power you a little bit. And you know,
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into the season, don't think these guys need the motivation.
I know for a fact that that they weren't affected,
that Detroit wasn't act because, like I said, in the
fourth inning, and I think even the fifth inning, when
we got one more run, you were hearing booze. You
were hearing a lot of Detroit Tiger fans that were
expressing their discontent about getting shut out for four innings
and losing and possibly, you know, fifteen outs away from
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their season being over. I think that a little bit
of that comes from the way in which they'd played
for the month leading up.
Speaker 6 (21:22):
To this point.
Speaker 5 (21:24):
We you know, Chuck and I went to a place
called Tommy's last night and we end up talking to
a few different Detroit Tiger fans that were at the
game yesterday, and they said, I told my takes, I'm
not even going tomorrow. I tried to say, I think
there was some frit in the in the stands, but
it doesn't affect the players. Not when it comes down
to this is win or go home, you know, and
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they know it.
Speaker 6 (21:45):
Was getting close. They're in the fifth inning.
Speaker 5 (21:47):
It was getting close to we better start doing something
because it looks like these Mariners were getting we were
getting runners on base from the second inning on.
Speaker 6 (21:55):
Every single time. We're getting runners on base.
Speaker 5 (21:57):
Now, weren't doing a lot of damage because of like
we talked about earlier, You're getting bases loaded and no outs.
Speaker 6 (22:02):
And getting one run out of the thing.
Speaker 5 (22:04):
You weren't getting you were leaving some runners on base.
But it still was one of those it felt like
we're on the on the verge of kind of stomping them.
Speaker 6 (22:11):
Out or letting.
Speaker 5 (22:12):
If the dam would have broke, this thing could have
been a little bit different. So I think that the
fans recognize we're running out of time because if they
keep putting up single digits here and there, we're gonna
have to score six to seven runs. Well, three fought
in the fifth made him feel whole heck of a
lot better, you know. I mean, up to that point,
I felt like we'd completely outplayed him for four and
a half innings and then at the bottom of five
it was all tied up.
Speaker 3 (22:34):
Scoople's owing two four, five eighty r A and three
starts against Seattle Mariners three and on those games. How
have they been so effective against him? Has there been
a common theme in your mind in those three games?
Speaker 5 (22:46):
I think you gotta you gotta battle every single pitch
with that guy. I mean, he's the type of guy
that if you help him out at all, you're done.
I mean, if you're swing it any pitches out of
the zone and he's gonna throw some that you don't
have choice. If you get two strikes and throws a
night showing you that hunter on our heater painted on
the inside corner, well then you've got to be ready
(23:07):
for that. That means if he doted one up that
looks like it's a change up that's going to hit
the outside corner and you don't realize it's going to
drop off the table until you say go, you're out.
Well somewhere along the line, if he made a mistake,
you got to capitalize. If there's one thing that we've
done against him that has allowed us to either knock
him out of the game and get a no decision
or beat him. Actually twice that we've had at least
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one person capitalized on a mistake when he made it,
it was, you know, we thought in game one of
this series or game two, excuse me, in the series
when Polonco ended up catching a couple of different mistakes
and didn't miit it and it was really a difference
in the game the way in which he got on
top of him there and ended up getting him out
of the game. He's still pitched well, but not well
enough to win. I think It's just fell down to
(23:53):
not stressing out. If I would have went down in
the clubhouse, I would have been asking the same questions
that Chuck was, because basically, what I want to hear
from them is, yeah, we were feeling good about ourselves.
We were feeling like our offense was tacking some stuff together,
and Bryce was looking good. But I don't think any
one of them was, you know, popping bottles of campaign
get yet. And obviously the way that it ended demoralizing
(24:15):
to some extent. But that's the beauty of having won
the two games before, is that you all of a sudden,
they got to beat you twice. Right now, it feels
like they got maybe an advantage because they got the
cy young winner heading in there, and you're gonna have
to faith and you know that that's gonna be a
tough battle.
Speaker 6 (24:30):
But we still got nine.
Speaker 5 (24:31):
Guys who are gonna go up there thinking that they
can beat this guy on any given moment, and they're
gonna have to go up against a good pitture regardless
of who we decided that we're gonna throw at them.
Speaker 1 (24:39):
All right, Bucky, let's do this.
Speaker 2 (24:40):
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Speaker 2 (27:56):
It's Sathia and Dick and Anders Enders now in for
Jessemen back in the stud radio here in Seattle. Chucking
Buck will rejoin us in a matter of minutes, but
Manners lose nine to three against the Tigers. Game five.
There will be a game five on Friday. If the
New York Yankees beat the Blue Jays today, the game
will be at one forty on Friday at T Mobile Park.
(28:16):
If the Blue Jays win this afternoon, the game will
be at five oh eight on Friday night at T
Mobile Parks. So we'll get more analysis from Chucking Buck
coming up in a minute. I'd like to Anders if
we can, maybe around four twenty eight, open up the
phone lines or the talkback mic on the ihard app.
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Speaker 1 (28:44):
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us a note and we'll get some on the aar
get some reaction as well around four to thirty. Kevin Harlan,
by the way, we'll join us tonight five o'clock and
talk some football with him. But first let's go back
to Comerica Park in the clubhouse. Chuck Palace standing by
with dominant canzone.
Speaker 6 (29:07):
Tough, But just want to ask you a couple of questions,
and that's all right, sure, all right?
Speaker 7 (29:12):
Dom canzone in three and two and in one, dom
canzone with me here in the locker room after the
tough loss to the Tigers here in game number four.
Speaker 6 (29:22):
Tough one, tough one, no doubt about that. Tom. How
do you expect the team bounced back from this? I
mean we've bounced back all year.
Speaker 9 (29:29):
We've had some tough stretches over the course of the
regular season, and uh, just one of those games. Sometimes
it doesn't go the way that you want and just
got to play and be ready the next head.
Speaker 7 (29:39):
It felt to me, to the guy sitting next to
me that covers the Tigers, it felt like they were
dead in the water, like the crowd had given up.
Speaker 1 (29:47):
Did you get that sense?
Speaker 7 (29:49):
I mean, were you starting to, you know, think about
celebrating it when the game was over.
Speaker 9 (29:56):
No, I mean they they were in a do or
die situation. They're not going to just lay down. I mean,
they're a good ball club, so I think that's the
last thing they're going to do. You got to expect
in a fight, and they did a good job today.
Speaker 7 (30:05):
I know that there's a pattern to take you out
against lefties, but that one probably stung a little bit
since he got the RBI in the first inning and
it was so early to be taken out of the game.
Speaker 9 (30:16):
I mean, yeah, but it ended up working out and
Garb had a great at that So yeah. I mean
it's just part part of playoff baseball. And I did
my job and garbed it his job. So just just
the way I worked out today.
Speaker 7 (30:28):
What are you expecting on Friday to greet you guys?
Speaker 6 (30:32):
What do you mean?
Speaker 7 (30:33):
Just the energy, the atmosphere game number five trek school
Ball on the mountd Yeah.
Speaker 9 (30:39):
I mean obvious, it's gonna be electric at Stuart I
for both teams, and I'm.
Speaker 6 (30:42):
Excited for it.
Speaker 7 (30:43):
You know, school bols considered just this bigger than live.
Fans get taken get carried away with them, Analysts get
carried away with them. How does a baseball team prepare
and think about a cy Young picture as they get
ready to face him again.
Speaker 6 (30:58):
He's a great picture.
Speaker 9 (31:00):
You've had some decent bats off on this here and
just got a battle you guys like that. So yeah,
just work counts and try to hit a couple of homers.
Speaker 6 (31:07):
Yeah, let's hit a couple of homers.
Speaker 7 (31:09):
Good luck, all right, thank you, appreciation.
Speaker 2 (31:11):
All right, there you go, Chuck Powe with Dom Canzone
and it's interesting and we'll talk to Chuck and Buck
next segment about that decision, by the way, to pinch
hit Canzone for Mitch Carver, who I believe drive walk
in that at bats So it actually turned out right
in that scenario. You just could not get more than
one run home because he left him juice. But I
mean the moment that can Zone had in the top
of the second inning, I'm literally watching Casey Mies mow
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these guys down with that splitter and just yelling.
Speaker 1 (31:37):
At the TV lay off the damn splitter.
Speaker 6 (31:39):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (31:40):
Gino Suarez strikes out on a splitter, and the very
next pitch to can Zone.
Speaker 1 (31:45):
Is a switter, and he drives in a run.
Speaker 2 (31:47):
And he drives on the first run of the game,
So I thought it was kind of look, I mean
from a baseball perspective, I get it, and it kind
of worked pitch hitting for can Zone right there, But I.
Speaker 1 (31:58):
Just thought it stunk for him.
Speaker 2 (32:00):
Yeah, that he has this incredible ab to put the
m's on the board and then gets yanked.
Speaker 3 (32:05):
Yeah, I mean Dan is really lefty, righty man, and
so's aj Hitch.
Speaker 1 (32:10):
I mean that's just that's just the way they all
are now.
Speaker 9 (32:12):
Man.
Speaker 3 (32:12):
Like you know, you you can question, hey, do you
want you want Gabe Spier? Yeah, I understand. You got
a lefty and then alrighty and a lefty, and you
know it's it's just so hard when you have a
limited number of guys in the in the bullpen, and
then you got a limit number of guys off the
bench to bring in.
Speaker 1 (32:29):
It's tough.
Speaker 3 (32:30):
And like I said in the first segment, I can't
really find a great deal of fault in anything Dan
did today. Sometimes guys just have to step up, which
Garber did when he was putting that situation with the walk. Yeah,
Bucky criticizes him all the time for all he do
is does is walk?
Speaker 1 (32:44):
Does he need a walker?
Speaker 3 (32:45):
It'd be it'd be good if he could like get
a base hit sometimes, which I guess he did in
Game number two.
Speaker 1 (32:49):
He gotta he got a base hit off the bench.
Speaker 3 (32:51):
But uh, you know, I just think I keep going
back to Friday, guys, and I keep going back to Friday,
and I'm just like mentally chalking up, Hey, going to
go seven innings, He's probably gonna give up one run.
That doesn't necessarily mean we lose the baseball game. Just
because you lose to Schooble doesn't mean you lose the
baseball game because Scoobale.
Speaker 1 (33:11):
Ain't going nine innings.
Speaker 3 (33:12):
And if your pitcher, whether it's the rock or a
combination of a Rock Kirby, you.
Speaker 1 (33:17):
Can do what Schooball can do on your ends.
Speaker 2 (33:20):
Well, I get what you're saying technically, but just so
people don't think there were schmucks here, if you lose
to Schooble, then you will lose the game. But you're saying,
be right exactly, I get that that's why win the game. Well,
I mean I would say this that Trek Scooball. First
of all, I told this to Dick before you came on. Andrews,
and we'll hear from Chuck and Buck again next segment.
(33:41):
Having to beat him four times in one year. I
don't know how else to say. This scares the piss
out of me. Ever, Loven piss out of me. I
am frightened beyond belief of the prospect of having to
beat that guy four times in one season. So we'll
just throw it out there, hope for some history to
go our way in some ways a little bit on Friday,
but you gotta get I'm out of the game.
Speaker 1 (34:01):
You can't fall behind.
Speaker 2 (34:03):
If you go to the seventh inning and it's one, one, two, two, three, three, whatever,
and this turns into a battle of bullpens.
Speaker 1 (34:09):
I probably would still sign up for that. Yeah, on Friday,
I think that. I think I will.
Speaker 2 (34:14):
I've been based on I would because I don't expect
those guys to be that bad two days in a row. Okay,
and you've got Brash, and you've got Moon Nows, and
you've got Logan Gilbert, and you've got George Kirby. You've
got more hands on deck in the bullpen. Look, I'm
not Andrews. I'm not saying I'm cocky confident about this
at all. Right, I just told you thirty seconds ago
I'm scared out of my freaking mind.
Speaker 1 (34:34):
For this game on Friday, Absolutely petrified for this game.
Speaker 2 (34:39):
So you tell me the MS lose, I can tell
you know what I'm gonna do. I told Dick this
off the air. I'm gonna put some money on the
Tigers just in case we lose. I got a couple
of bucks. And if we win and I gotta pay
for a victory, I will gladly pay for a victory.
What do you think I've been doing to the Apple
Cup and the Oregon Game the last twenty years.
Speaker 1 (34:57):
That's what I did for here. I bet Aaron Judge
MVP pay for a count Rowley.
Speaker 2 (35:01):
You canpe all right, let's let's let's do this. I mean,
it's just one more on Schooble. He does have ten
games this year where he allowed three runs or more
and six of them came on the rope. So do
whatever you want with that information. Uh, we're gonna break.
We'll go back to Camerica. Chuck and Buck will rejoin
next on ninety three to three kJ A r FM
How's it right now?
Speaker 2 (00:00):
At top of the ninth day, a three nothing fifth
inning lead at one point has melted away and turned
into a nine to three deficit in the top of
the night with two outs. So, barring a Christmas miracle
here or a sixth Night of Honika miracle or a
powerball winning type miracle, the Mariners will play on Friday
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at either what one forty I believe, or five o'clock
in the afternoon at T Mobile Park. And you know,
Ian and I were talking about this on the air.
Off the air, you know the anger coming in the
text line. People I met at Dan Wilson for Yank
and Bryce Miller. They're mad at this guy. They're mad
at that guy. And I get it. I mean, people
are emotional, and you know we're all fans, but I'm
just kind of bummed out right now, right I'm more
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bummed out. And I looked Dick. I mean, obviously, the Mariners.
If I would have told you before the season started,
game number five, one game to advance to the Alcs,
and you're at home on a Friday afternoon in front
of forty seven thousand of your friends, I think back
in March, if I told you that you probably would
have taken it. Yes, But then if I add in
(01:05):
the caveat that you got to beat a pitcher for
a fourth time in one year, I don't know. I
think there's gonna be a lot of nervous energy. I mean,
I will be totally truthful with you, Dick. And the
game just ended nine to three. Well, we'll get the
open in a second. Here, I am scared out of
my ever loving mind for Friday's game against the Tigers
(01:27):
and Trek Scooble.
Speaker 1 (01:28):
I just looked it up on Ai.
Speaker 2 (01:29):
According to goo Ai, no team has ever beaten a
single pitcher four times in one year in the history
of Major League Baseball.
Speaker 1 (01:36):
Really, it's never happened.
Speaker 2 (01:37):
Never well, because first of all, the guy's got to
face the team four times.
Speaker 3 (01:41):
Now, you'd think in the air of playing like your
division twenty one times in a season.
Speaker 1 (01:46):
That's what this says here.
Speaker 2 (01:48):
And it may be a joke, it may be wrong,
but I do think that the more you ask him
the team against one person, the heart of the proposition.
Speaker 1 (01:56):
Becomes yeah, I think so.
Speaker 3 (01:58):
But I will say that you can beat the Tigers
on Friday without beating Trek Scubele Trek Scubel can go
seven innings and give up three hits in one run.
But if you have if you've got George Kirby slash
Luis Castillo who could be available slash hell, Logan Gilbert.
Speaker 1 (02:16):
Could give you an inning or.
Speaker 3 (02:18):
Two if you needed to, Like, you've got all hands
on deck in that game. If you can just match
Trek scouobles, let's just say seven innings one run, then
it becomes an eighth to ninth inning bullpen battle.
Speaker 1 (02:31):
And you got brash and Munios and they don't.
Speaker 2 (02:33):
And I like that. Well, no, there's no question about that.
That I think tomorrow is you do whatever you got
do to win the game, the damn game. I mean,
you go out there and if a guy's arms falling off,
he sow at back off right right, it doesn't matter.
But I just think, and again, I mean, is it
a fifty to fifty proposition? Is it a fifty two
to forty eight proposition? I mean, Mike got We've gone
(02:53):
from talking about why are we starting George Kirby in
game number one to thinking yesterday after Logan's Jim, if
they would have gone with Logan Castillo Kirby, they may
have swept him. So now we're talking about having a
Beata guy for a fourth time in a single season.
And again, well, we'll talk to Bucky about this as
soon as he's on the phone. I don't really have
(03:15):
a really negative thing to say in a lot of
ways about what decisions Dan Wilson made today. I did
get a little bit nervous when they went out for
a mound visit with Bryce Miller and decided to keep
him in there for one more batter, and that was
obviously a mistake. But guys, Bizardo had his worst outing
(03:35):
in two months. Gabe Speier had his worst outing in
a month. If I can't count on my best relievers
in the most pressure packed situations of the year to
deliver for me, then what can I count on.
Speaker 1 (03:49):
So we'll get to all that.
Speaker 2 (03:50):
We'll get some of your phone calls at some point,
text lines open, We got a lot to get to.
As the show goes on, We're gonna maneuver some stuff
and basically keep this thing open for reaction to what
happened in Detroit for the next couple of hours. Let's
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Speaker 2 (04:29):
All right, Chuck is in Detroit, Bucky is in Detroit.
I believe Chuck is in the clubhouse. But what do
you say we go back to the America Park press
box and visit with a guy who I'm sure is
just as bummed as we are, Bucky Jacobson standing by
Detroit and Bucky. First of all, Man, thanks for doing this.
And then second of all, your thoughts, big guy, on
what we just saw.
Speaker 1 (04:49):
The floor is yours? Go oh boy?
Speaker 5 (04:53):
Yeah, bummer to say the least, especially the way in
which it started, the way in which they were playing,
the way in which they were just kind of hacking
on little single digits here and there before the wheels
absolutely fell off and it turned into a laugh or
I mean, being here at this park, there was really
right there about the bottom of the fourth inning, they
(05:15):
were starting to booth their own team when they were
getting out, they were starting to turn on them a
little bit. And then there was even some more of
that in the fifth when the Mariners tacked on the
final run that they were going to tack on. And
then the fifth inning came and obviously Bryce Snowy gets
into a little bit of trouble. There'd be debate as
(05:35):
to win and where you've got to take somebody out
in that situation. But you know, they pulled him out
and then all of a sudden, you bring in one
of your your better relievers, one of your more consistent guys,
and games fired and he he just absolutely stunk it up.
It just was not his day. Did not look like
he had the same life on his fastball, and obviously
he got hurt, and everybody came in after him got
(05:56):
hurt as well.
Speaker 3 (05:57):
Yeah, I think it's you know, we're always need your
looking Outkay. What the manager would do? Would the manager do?
But I totally agree with Softy. I mean he just
mentioned this is on the players, man, This is on
Gabe Spier, This is on Bizardo who reverted to the
mop today. And you know, did you find anything that
Dan Wilson did wrong?
Speaker 5 (06:18):
I mean, you know, in hindsight now, I mean, I'm
one that I won't really change my thoughts on something
in hindsight, even if it looks like, oh, well, that
would have worked out better or couldn't have worked out worse.
I'm not going to do that because in the midst
of the game atally, you don't have that option as
a manager, right You make a call and then you
live with the results of the whole thing. I might
(06:39):
have been a little quicker. I mean, Bryce Miller was
mowing him down, and so it's one of those If
I looked at Bryce Miller and he was having more trouble,
then I probably would have pulled him. The first time
somebody got on there in the fiftheen just said, okay,
here we go, let's pitch with the lead and without
any traffic. Really, once he got a couple of guys on,
then he I think he pulled the trigger there at
the right time. I think he brought in the guy
(07:00):
and inspire he's proven to be a guy that has
the stuff to get out. Obviously the lefties that were
coming up, but even some rieties at that point I mean,
I agree if that's what Sophy was saying, is that
the players just didn't execute.
Speaker 6 (07:13):
The players just didn't play the way that they could have.
Speaker 5 (07:15):
I mean, if you were to tell me that you
got Bryce Miller goes out there and ultimately.
Speaker 6 (07:20):
He gave him give it up one.
Speaker 5 (07:21):
Run, but really two of them, because Spire gave up
one of his as well. If you were telling me
Bryce Miller, Spire, Bizardo, and Vargas right now, obviously Jackson
probably wouldn't have been in there unless this thing got
out of hand like it did. If you have told
me that's the way that it looks, I probably would
have thought he won the ballgame. I most certainly would
not have thought that you gave up nine runs. And
(07:43):
so no, I'm gonna I'm not gonna second guess any
of the decisions. Obviously, I think there's if there was
one in the midst of the game, it was And
it kind of leads back to a couple of days
ago when they were talking about Carpenter and they were
talking about who's the other dude on their squad that
is as a big hitter that they end up I
was thinking about.
Speaker 6 (08:03):
It, Green, Rightley Green Riley Green.
Speaker 5 (08:05):
I was thinking to myself, Okay, they're moving guys around,
and how do they do that.
Speaker 6 (08:09):
Well, they're trying to play the game.
Speaker 5 (08:11):
As to what is Dan Wilson going to do to
bring guys into combat are kind of our power lefties. Well,
they've actually can hit for Riley Green before when you
have a lefty against him. They didn't decide to do
that in the inning when they brought gave back out
to start that inning and he ends up going deep
on it. And so to me, that was one where
(08:32):
I think that that was an aj Henschho's a good manager.
As much as I disliked the guy, he's a good manager.
He knows he knows how to call a game and
manage a clubhouse. I think that that was one where
he kind of was seeing I don't think games Spider
has the same life on his stuff right now. I
don't think he has the same execution and location that
he normally does. I'm gonna go ahead and leave my
guy in there, because he does have a bunch of
(08:52):
home runs this season. So that would have been one
where maybe I would have thought that he maybe got
somebody played chess against him when he was playing checkers. Ultimately, again,
that just looks that way and feels that way more
because of the way it worked out. Well.
Speaker 2 (09:04):
Bucky Jacobson again is with us. In Detroit Mariners lose
nine to three. If you got called to a meeting
in the fifth inning of three and nothing, you come
back and hear this postgame, say, what the hell just happened? Right, well,
a bullpen melted down is what happened, Gabe Spier Bizarro Vargas.
Seven earned runs combined, including three bombs between those three
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guys who have been normally pretty good for this baseball team.
And you know, look, I Bucky, go back to other
situations in the game. Top of the fourth bases juiced
nobody out and you get one on a roblest double
play fielders choice. You had a chance there to let's
face it, step on their friggin throats and you let
(09:47):
them off the hook.
Speaker 1 (09:48):
And that to me.
Speaker 2 (09:49):
When they did that, when Detroit did that, I felt like,
you know what, I'll take the run. But god darn it,
did that feel like a gigantic missed opportunity, Bucky, right there.
Speaker 5 (10:00):
Huge missed opportunity, And I mean, yeah, I mean that's
one where that's exactly what you do.
Speaker 6 (10:05):
Otherwise, you leave the door open for them to come back.
Speaker 5 (10:08):
If you just have a sack fly, possibly just a
ball that is a sack fly and moves another runover
where maybe you can get your first crooked number of
the game in that inning. I think that you quite
possibly make it feel a little bit less. You obviously
don't feel the same when you're up three zip. When
they scored their first run, you could feel the energy
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in the ballpark change. You could feel them go wow,
because three to one just feels different than four to one.
Playing and simple, it feels like you don't have as
big of a mountain to climb. I'll say this, Rob
List in that situation, that was a good pitch to
swing act. I don't know how you get on top
of that pitch to hit that ground ball the way
that he does.
Speaker 6 (10:45):
I mean it's.
Speaker 5 (10:45):
Because if your approach is I'm going to get to
the bottom half of a ball, you swing and follow
that thing back, or you hit that thing in the
air to center field or a right center field, it's
almost guaranteed it was.
Speaker 6 (10:54):
Up and away. It was a good pitch.
Speaker 5 (10:56):
He basically made the pitch into the situation that you
would want, and Robis didn't execute the swing that we
should he needed Bucky.
Speaker 1 (11:04):
Is every starter available for Friday?
Speaker 3 (11:05):
Logan pitched eighty five pitches Tuesday, Castill eighty five pitches Sunday,
Kirby ninety four pitches on Saturday.
Speaker 1 (11:12):
Are all three of.
Speaker 3 (11:13):
Those guys available for at least some part of the game?
And who do you start between Kirby and Castile? Is
it automatically Kirby just because he's got an extra day
of rest.
Speaker 5 (11:24):
Oh boy, that's a rough one, man. I mean, I
bet you they will go with Castile. I think that
they will rely on the rock, that this the foundation,
the fact that he's kind of the teeth of the
staff which his team is built on. If I just
got instinct right now, I would think that's probably where
they go. I can make an argument as to where
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George Kirby might have the best obviously has the better stuff.
I think I think he has more of a chance
about doing if you if you just go out there
and say, well, we're gonna have to go against snowball,
and let's just say he's gonna go seven innings and
give up one run due Do I think has a
bet to matching that pitch for pitch.
Speaker 6 (12:01):
I think that that's George.
Speaker 5 (12:03):
When it comes to Logan, I don't know for sure
if I would think, I mean, he's live. It's it's
the get into your season, right, and so he's live.
It would have to be extra innings and you're out
of pitchers and he goes up to him and says,
I'm good to go.
Speaker 6 (12:18):
Right.
Speaker 5 (12:19):
So he's not going to be sitting there in, you know,
just a hoodie. He's going to have his jersey on,
he'll have some spikes laced up. But I don't think
that that's really a possibility unless, like I said, you
get into the fourteenth to fifteen fifteenth inning and then
all of a sudden, I let's go ahead and run
this thing out there right.
Speaker 1 (12:34):
Well, I think it's guys.
Speaker 2 (12:35):
It's funny for me because it kind of comes back
to the conversation we were having when we first began
discussing a playoff rotation, which was like early September, right
on the radio show, and I would always ask the question,
Bucky again, Bucky Jacobson with us from Detroit where the
EMS lose Game four nine to three, Game five coming up,
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Speaker 6 (13:07):
By the way, perfect.
Speaker 2 (13:08):
So the question then, for me, Bucky, becomes this, we
I think can both agree. All of us can agree.
It's either going to be George Kirby or Luis Castillo
starting on Friday.
Speaker 1 (13:18):
That's it. One of those two guys will start that game.
Speaker 2 (13:21):
Which one do you have more confidence in coming out
of the bullpen? If you need to go to your
bullpen fast and you and you have a Ryan Franklin
type two thousand and one, I need four innings out
of you or whatever. Which one of those guys? We
can talk about it in two ways, Bucky, which one's
better suited to start and which one's better suited to
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come out of the pen if needed on Friday.
Speaker 5 (13:46):
I would say I would probably go with the younger guy,
would be capable. He has less time set in his ways,
you know, I mean Luis Castillo has been around, no
for sure, if he's ever had any he has none.
Speaker 6 (14:04):
Er right, yeah, never done it. So it's just it's
a it's teaching.
Speaker 5 (14:08):
An old dog new tricks right now. I mean, I
could sit here again and play both sides of this.
I would imagine, because he's a veteran, because he understands
what's on the line, that he's going to be more
calm between the years than somebody that's considerably younger than
his That said, if they ended up going with Luis Castillo,
it's going to be obviously a short leaf.
Speaker 6 (14:29):
It's going to be a short leash on everybody.
Speaker 5 (14:30):
You can't allow anybody to get in a whole bunch
of trouble and think, well, we're just gonna let him
wiggle off this like you do during the regular season.
If that's the route they win, if they went Castillo
to start, and again that's a that's a great debate
that we're going to have, you know, today, tomorrow, and
and and the rest of the season, depending on how
Game five goes, or the rest of the year, depending
on how how Game five goes, If they were going
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to go Luis Castille, or if they were going to
just pick one of those two to start and the
other is going to be the first one.
Speaker 6 (14:58):
To come in if they have a quick hook, then.
Speaker 5 (15:01):
I think that you could get George Kirby out there
and get loose, right.
Speaker 6 (15:04):
He basically goes to that same thing.
Speaker 5 (15:07):
He's just not getting as loose right off the bat,
but he's out there essentially thinking almost I'm getting loose
like it's a rain delay, right. I'm just kind of
slowly keeping myself warm, and when I see a base
knock and then a walk, I'm ramping it up because
I'm coming in if even falls behind on the next hitter.
Speaker 1 (15:25):
No, I agree with that.
Speaker 2 (15:25):
I think you're exactly right, and I think you're right
in your sense, Bucky. I think your gut's going to
be right that Luis Castillo is going to start this
game on Friday.
Speaker 1 (15:34):
But we will see.
Speaker 2 (15:35):
But hey, coming back home, there's a lot more to
get to stay with us through the break, Bucky.
Speaker 1 (15:40):
Chuck is out there.
Speaker 2 (15:41):
As well in the clubhouse, and man, Bucky, you've been
in clubhouses like this before. I'm sure those guys are dejected,
but they got a rally, got to find a way
to get it off their back and get it together
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Speaker 2 (16:55):
All right, we're back on a busy Wednesday. Mariners lose
nine to three to the Detroit Tigers in Game four
of the American League Division Series, Bucky Jacobson, Well, rejoin
us in just a second.
Speaker 1 (17:07):
You want to do Logan Gilbert right here? Is that right?
Speaker 2 (17:09):
Logan Gilbert in the Mariner clubhouse after this loss with
Chuck Powell.
Speaker 7 (17:14):
Let's listen to Chuck Powell here in the clubhouse with
Logan Gilbert. What can you say tough one tonight? You
didn't play obviously, you didn't pitch obviously, but but I
mean talk about your team and it's resilience and how
Logan Gilbert's not worried how you're going to bounce back
from this.
Speaker 8 (17:32):
Yeah, I think any time in the year we've gotten
in a point where we had to win, or things
had to change or whatever, we've kind of come through.
So I think we're in a really good spot. Our
arms are ready to go, our bats are good, and
so obviously you want to win this one. But I
think going back to T Mobile especially, it's really hard
to beat us in Seattle.
Speaker 7 (17:51):
I know how close you guys are as pitchers, and
we were talking about it a lot on today's show,
and so when a guy like Gabe who's been so
good all year along and Bizardo has been so good
all year long struggle like they did in a big moment.
What do you guys do to rally around them and.
Speaker 6 (18:08):
Pick them up?
Speaker 8 (18:08):
Yeah, it doesn't change anything. I mean that's they've proven
who they are for years now, so stuff looks great.
We have all the confidence in the world and those
guys and they've saved my runs and other runs plenty
of times. So, like I said, I think our arms
were in a really good position.
Speaker 7 (18:26):
The entire crowd in Detroit felt like they'd given up.
I mean, they just felt like they were dead in
the water. How were you guys feeling before they started
turning things around?
Speaker 8 (18:37):
I mean, I thought we did a good job for
most of the two games, kind of taking the crowd
out of it. Even getting the early start today Bruce
so great. We got a couple of runs right away,
So from that standpoint, things looked good. And I mean
there were some MPCs too, Like it wasn't sold out
or anything, so it's kind of crazy to see that
(18:58):
in a playoff game. But I think, just focus on
what we can do and get ready for Keep in
mind he can overhear you. But what did you think
of Bryce today? I don't want to be too nice Yeah,
he look good. He look really good. I told him
after that was probably the best I've seen him in
a long time. And that's how he's been for a
couple of weeks now in bullpens and even games. But
(19:20):
stuff wise and execution, everything was there. So it's fun
to see. Well, you think Friday is going to be
like Loud, It's gonna be fun. Good luck man, Thank you,
thank you.
Speaker 2 (19:30):
There you go, Chuck Potwood, Logan, Gilbert, Bucky Jacobson rejoins
us on the air, and Bucky Logan, you know a
little quip there about the lack of fans and the stands.
You know, I made a crack on Twitter that I
thought there was a lot of fans dressed up as
empty seats in this game. It was kind of a
soft environment, it looked on TV. But I don't know
how much that stuff really matters in baseball, Bucky, you
(19:50):
tell me, maybe more so in football, but maybe not
as much in baseball.
Speaker 5 (19:54):
What do you think, well, given team, you know, certain
team feed off of that. I'm there's been times you
guys have been watching sports and talking sports, covering sports
for long enough that you can remember times when a
team like Tampa Bay, for example, when their team isn't
any good. Even when their team is good, nobody stows up.
But when their team isn't very good, they're usually really
(20:17):
bad at home, really bad, because if you're not a
very good team, and then you just kind of feel
like you're playing in an empty costo building. There it
feels at times like there's not a lot to play for. Now.
You are obviously playing for yourself, you're playing for your
own career.
Speaker 6 (20:31):
You're playing to try to stick.
Speaker 5 (20:32):
In the big leagues and be on that team when
they eventually turn into a good squad. But there's times
in the middle of this season when it's hard to
get up. And so that thing that's on the outside
that you don't have any control of, which is how
loud are the fans and how how many seats are
filled with fans of yours rooting and cheering for you.
That can power you a little bit. And you know,
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into the season, don't think these guys need the motivation.
I know for a fact that that they weren't affected,
that Detroit wasn't act because, like I said, in the
fourth inning, and I think even the fifth inning, when
we got one more run, you were hearing booze. You
were hearing a lot of Detroit Tiger fans that were
expressing their discontent about getting shut out for four innings
and losing and possibly, you know, fifteen outs away from
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their season being over. I think that a little bit
of that comes from the way in which they'd played
for the month leading up.
Speaker 6 (21:22):
To this point.
Speaker 5 (21:24):
We you know, Chuck and I went to a place
called Tommy's last night and we end up talking to
a few different Detroit Tiger fans that were at the
game yesterday, and they said, I told my takes, I'm
not even going tomorrow. I tried to say, I think
there was some frit in the in the stands, but
it doesn't affect the players. Not when it comes down
to this is win or go home, you know, and
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they know it.
Speaker 6 (21:45):
Was getting close. They're in the fifth inning.
Speaker 5 (21:47):
It was getting close to we better start doing something
because it looks like these Mariners were getting we were
getting runners on base from the second inning on.
Speaker 6 (21:55):
Every single time. We're getting runners on base.
Speaker 5 (21:57):
Now, weren't doing a lot of damage because of like
we talked about earlier, You're getting bases loaded and no outs.
Speaker 6 (22:02):
And getting one run out of the thing.
Speaker 5 (22:04):
You weren't getting you were leaving some runners on base.
But it still was one of those it felt like
we're on the on the verge of kind of stomping them.
Speaker 6 (22:11):
Out or letting.
Speaker 5 (22:12):
If the dam would have broke, this thing could have
been a little bit different. So I think that the
fans recognize we're running out of time because if they
keep putting up single digits here and there, we're gonna
have to score six to seven runs. Well, three fought
in the fifth made him feel whole heck of a
lot better, you know. I mean, up to that point,
I felt like we'd completely outplayed him for four and
a half innings and then at the bottom of five
it was all tied up.
Speaker 3 (22:34):
Scoople's owing two four, five eighty r A and three
starts against Seattle Mariners three and on those games. How
have they been so effective against him? Has there been
a common theme in your mind in those three games?
Speaker 5 (22:46):
I think you gotta you gotta battle every single pitch
with that guy. I mean, he's the type of guy
that if you help him out at all, you're done.
I mean, if you're swing it any pitches out of
the zone and he's gonna throw some that you don't
have choice. If you get two strikes and throws a
night showing you that hunter on our heater painted on
the inside corner, well then you've got to be ready
(23:07):
for that. That means if he doted one up that
looks like it's a change up that's going to hit
the outside corner and you don't realize it's going to
drop off the table until you say go, you're out.
Well somewhere along the line, if he made a mistake,
you got to capitalize. If there's one thing that we've
done against him that has allowed us to either knock
him out of the game and get a no decision
or beat him. Actually twice that we've had at least
(23:30):
one person capitalized on a mistake when he made it,
it was, you know, we thought in game one of
this series or game two, excuse me, in the series
when Polonco ended up catching a couple of different mistakes
and didn't miit it and it was really a difference
in the game the way in which he got on
top of him there and ended up getting him out
of the game. He's still pitched well, but not well
enough to win. I think It's just fell down to
(23:53):
not stressing out. If I would have went down in
the clubhouse, I would have been asking the same questions
that Chuck was, because basically, what I want to hear
from them is, yeah, we were feeling good about ourselves.
We were feeling like our offense was tacking some stuff together,
and Bryce was looking good. But I don't think any
one of them was, you know, popping bottles of campaign
get yet. And obviously the way that it ended demoralizing
(24:15):
to some extent. But that's the beauty of having won
the two games before, is that you all of a sudden,
they got to beat you twice. Right now, it feels
like they got maybe an advantage because they got the
cy young winner heading in there, and you're gonna have
to faith and you know that that's gonna be a
tough battle.
Speaker 6 (24:30):
But we still got nine.
Speaker 5 (24:31):
Guys who are gonna go up there thinking that they
can beat this guy on any given moment, and they're
gonna have to go up against a good pitture regardless
of who we decided that we're gonna throw at them.
Speaker 1 (24:39):
All right, Bucky, let's do this.
Speaker 2 (24:40):
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Speaker 2 (27:56):
It's Sathia and Dick and Anders Enders now in for
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Buck will rejoin us in a matter of minutes, but
Manners lose nine to three against the Tigers. Game five.
There will be a game five on Friday. If the
New York Yankees beat the Blue Jays today, the game
will be at one forty on Friday at T Mobile Park.
(28:16):
If the Blue Jays win this afternoon, the game will
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get some reaction as well around four to thirty. Kevin Harlan,
by the way, we'll join us tonight five o'clock and
talk some football with him. But first let's go back
to Comerica Park in the clubhouse. Chuck Palace standing by
with dominant canzone.
Speaker 6 (29:07):
Tough, But just want to ask you a couple of questions,
and that's all right, sure, all right?
Speaker 7 (29:12):
Dom canzone in three and two and in one, dom
canzone with me here in the locker room after the
tough loss to the Tigers here in game number four.
Speaker 6 (29:22):
Tough one, tough one, no doubt about that. Tom. How
do you expect the team bounced back from this? I
mean we've bounced back all year.
Speaker 9 (29:29):
We've had some tough stretches over the course of the
regular season, and uh, just one of those games. Sometimes
it doesn't go the way that you want and just
got to play and be ready the next head.
Speaker 7 (29:39):
It felt to me, to the guy sitting next to
me that covers the Tigers, it felt like they were
dead in the water, like the crowd had given up.
Speaker 1 (29:47):
Did you get that sense?
Speaker 7 (29:49):
I mean, were you starting to, you know, think about
celebrating it when the game was over.
Speaker 9 (29:56):
No, I mean they they were in a do or
die situation. They're not going to just lay down. I mean,
they're a good ball club, so I think that's the
last thing they're going to do. You got to expect
in a fight, and they did a good job today.
Speaker 7 (30:05):
I know that there's a pattern to take you out
against lefties, but that one probably stung a little bit
since he got the RBI in the first inning and
it was so early to be taken out of the game.
Speaker 9 (30:16):
I mean, yeah, but it ended up working out and
Garb had a great at that So yeah. I mean
it's just part part of playoff baseball. And I did
my job and garbed it his job. So just just
the way I worked out today.
Speaker 7 (30:28):
What are you expecting on Friday to greet you guys?
Speaker 6 (30:32):
What do you mean?
Speaker 7 (30:33):
Just the energy, the atmosphere game number five trek school
Ball on the mountd Yeah.
Speaker 9 (30:39):
I mean obvious, it's gonna be electric at Stuart I
for both teams, and I'm.
Speaker 6 (30:42):
Excited for it.
Speaker 7 (30:43):
You know, school bols considered just this bigger than live.
Fans get taken get carried away with them, Analysts get
carried away with them. How does a baseball team prepare
and think about a cy Young picture as they get
ready to face him again.
Speaker 6 (30:58):
He's a great picture.
Speaker 9 (31:00):
You've had some decent bats off on this here and
just got a battle you guys like that. So yeah,
just work counts and try to hit a couple of homers.
Speaker 6 (31:07):
Yeah, let's hit a couple of homers.
Speaker 7 (31:09):
Good luck, all right, thank you, appreciation.
Speaker 2 (31:11):
All right, there you go, Chuck Powe with Dom Canzone
and it's interesting and we'll talk to Chuck and Buck
next segment about that decision, by the way, to pinch
hit Canzone for Mitch Carver, who I believe drive walk
in that at bats So it actually turned out right
in that scenario. You just could not get more than
one run home because he left him juice. But I
mean the moment that can Zone had in the top
of the second inning, I'm literally watching Casey Mies mow
(31:34):
these guys down with that splitter and just yelling.
Speaker 1 (31:37):
At the TV lay off the damn splitter.
Speaker 6 (31:39):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (31:40):
Gino Suarez strikes out on a splitter, and the very
next pitch to can Zone.
Speaker 1 (31:45):
Is a switter, and he drives in a run.
Speaker 2 (31:47):
And he drives on the first run of the game,
So I thought it was kind of look, I mean
from a baseball perspective, I get it, and it kind
of worked pitch hitting for can Zone right there, But I.
Speaker 1 (31:58):
Just thought it stunk for him.
Speaker 2 (32:00):
Yeah, that he has this incredible ab to put the
m's on the board and then gets yanked.
Speaker 3 (32:05):
Yeah, I mean Dan is really lefty, righty man, and
so's aj Hitch.
Speaker 1 (32:10):
I mean that's just that's just the way they all
are now.
Speaker 9 (32:12):
Man.
Speaker 3 (32:12):
Like you know, you you can question, hey, do you
want you want Gabe Spier? Yeah, I understand. You got
a lefty and then alrighty and a lefty, and you
know it's it's just so hard when you have a
limited number of guys in the in the bullpen, and
then you got a limit number of guys off the
bench to bring in.
Speaker 1 (32:29):
It's tough.
Speaker 3 (32:30):
And like I said in the first segment, I can't
really find a great deal of fault in anything Dan
did today. Sometimes guys just have to step up, which
Garber did when he was putting that situation with the walk. Yeah,
Bucky criticizes him all the time for all he do
is does is walk?
Speaker 1 (32:44):
Does he need a walker?
Speaker 3 (32:45):
It'd be it'd be good if he could like get
a base hit sometimes, which I guess he did in
Game number two.
Speaker 1 (32:49):
He gotta he got a base hit off the bench.
Speaker 3 (32:51):
But uh, you know, I just think I keep going
back to Friday, guys, and I keep going back to Friday,
and I'm just like mentally chalking up, Hey, going to
go seven innings, He's probably gonna give up one run.
That doesn't necessarily mean we lose the baseball game. Just
because you lose to Schooble doesn't mean you lose the
baseball game because Scoobale.
Speaker 1 (33:11):
Ain't going nine innings.
Speaker 3 (33:12):
And if your pitcher, whether it's the rock or a
combination of a Rock Kirby, you.
Speaker 1 (33:17):
Can do what Schooball can do on your ends.
Speaker 2 (33:20):
Well, I get what you're saying technically, but just so
people don't think there were schmucks here, if you lose
to Schooble, then you will lose the game. But you're saying,
be right exactly, I get that that's why win the game. Well,
I mean I would say this that Trek Scooball. First
of all, I told this to Dick before you came on. Andrews,
and we'll hear from Chuck and Buck again next segment.
(33:41):
Having to beat him four times in one year. I
don't know how else to say. This scares the piss
out of me. Ever, Loven piss out of me. I
am frightened beyond belief of the prospect of having to
beat that guy four times in one season. So we'll
just throw it out there, hope for some history to
go our way in some ways a little bit on Friday,
but you gotta get I'm out of the game.
Speaker 1 (34:01):
You can't fall behind.
Speaker 2 (34:03):
If you go to the seventh inning and it's one, one, two, two, three, three, whatever,
and this turns into a battle of bullpens.
Speaker 1 (34:09):
I probably would still sign up for that. Yeah, on Friday,
I think that. I think I will.
Speaker 2 (34:14):
I've been based on I would because I don't expect
those guys to be that bad two days in a row. Okay,
and you've got Brash, and you've got Moon Nows, and
you've got Logan Gilbert, and you've got George Kirby. You've
got more hands on deck in the bullpen. Look, I'm
not Andrews. I'm not saying I'm cocky confident about this
at all. Right, I just told you thirty seconds ago
I'm scared out of my freaking mind.
Speaker 1 (34:34):
For this game on Friday, Absolutely petrified for this game.
Speaker 2 (34:39):
So you tell me the MS lose, I can tell
you know what I'm gonna do. I told Dick this
off the air. I'm gonna put some money on the
Tigers just in case we lose. I got a couple
of bucks. And if we win and I gotta pay
for a victory, I will gladly pay for a victory.
What do you think I've been doing to the Apple
Cup and the Oregon Game the last twenty years.
Speaker 1 (34:57):
That's what I did for here. I bet Aaron Judge
MVP pay for a count Rowley.
Speaker 2 (35:01):
You canpe all right, let's let's let's do this. I mean,
it's just one more on Schooble. He does have ten
games this year where he allowed three runs or more
and six of them came on the rope. So do
whatever you want with that information. Uh, we're gonna break.
We'll go back to Camerica. Chuck and Buck will rejoin
next on ninety three to three kJ A r FM
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