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November 4, 2025 32 mins

In the first hour, Dave Softy Mahler, Dick Fain, and Jackson Felts react to the Seahawks trading for wide receiver Rashid Shaheed from the Saints today, Fletcher Mackel breaks down the move from New Orleans’ side, then we hit Fact or Fiction and Fun with Audio.

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Where we go. Sad news is. I know you're broken
up about this, Jackson.

Speaker 2 (00:04):
The Mitch Carver era in Seattle has officially come to
and and they declined the option on Mitch Carver for
next year. So I'm sorry. Hey, look great guy, but
time to move on, Time to move on. What are
we gonna do without the one twenty four batting?

Speaker 1 (00:20):
Oh boy, oh boy, oh boy, oh boy. I don't know.
It's it's it's it's Harry Ford's time.

Speaker 2 (00:25):
Now.

Speaker 1 (00:25):
We'll see.

Speaker 2 (00:26):
We'll see if he ends up being the number two guy,
or maybe they bring in somebody else and maybe they'll
trade Harry Ford.

Speaker 1 (00:30):
You never know.

Speaker 2 (00:31):
But there's a lot going on today, man. First of all,
the big news with the Seahawks. I think everybody probably
knows by now, but look, people have jobs, they have lives, right,
maybe they're tuning in. They just find out now that
the Hawks have brought in a wide receiver, Rashid Shiheed
from the Saints.

Speaker 1 (00:47):
I got a text today. You'll laugh at this, dick,
because you know this guy.

Speaker 2 (00:51):
Our buddy Ron from the Emerald quin Casino texted me
this afternoon and said, hey, is it true the Hawks
got Rashid Shaheed, and didn't he go to Washington. No,
that's for Sean Sheeh you're thinking about and Rashon. She's
also like forty five years of age. Actually fifty years old,
is that right?

Speaker 3 (01:08):
You want?

Speaker 2 (01:09):
Hasn't played in twenty five years, by the way, so
time moves slow for Ron. But yeah, Rashid Shaheed undrafted
guy at a Weber State back in the day, twenty
seven years old, forty five catches, five hundred yards a
couple of touchdowns for the Saints this year, who were
obviously just terrible. I mean they are as the kids
like to say ass in New Orleans, they are really

(01:30):
really bad. And he gets to Reunitelton Kobiak and you know, look,
I mean the first thing that I thought of when
they went out and got Shaheed as well, that must
mean that Cooper Cup is more banged up than we think, right,
because you gave up a fourth and fifth rounder, which
is not an unbelievable bounty, but.

Speaker 1 (01:45):
It's also not nothing.

Speaker 3 (01:47):
Right.

Speaker 2 (01:47):
I think the Hawks have what three or four draft
picks left now for next season.

Speaker 4 (01:50):
Fun you go first six rounds.

Speaker 2 (01:53):
And you never know, I mean, you know, they're they're
wizards at moving up and using those picks and packaging it,
you know, to turned into something else. And maybe they
could have used that those picks to go after an
offensive lineman. I wonder a lot of stuff about this trade.
First of all, I wonder how aggressively they look for
a guard. And I wonder if Anthony Bradford's game on

(02:14):
Sunday night made them pull back a little bit after
the way he played. We can talk to you about that.
I wonder what the price tag was to acquire a guard,
if there was a guy out there. And I also
wonder again if this Shiheed pickup means that Cooper Cup
is more banged up than we think, or maybe they're
just not satisfied with his production. I mean, guys, look,

(02:36):
he's thirty two years old. Even when he's been healthy,
he really hasn't done a ton for this football team.
I think we have to admit there's a chance that
Cooper Cup maybe washed at this age. And we all
thought that was a possibility right when they signed him.
All of us thought, well, if he can just stay healthy,
he's got a chance. Well, now he's not healthy and
he's not really performing. They're kind of redundant with him.

(02:58):
And Jackson Smith and Jig Obviously, now they have a
true threat that can get down the field. I want
to talk to you about how much this guy plays
in the slot versus the outside. I want to know
does he carry the ball? Do they run sweeps for
the guy? Do they run screens for the guy? Because
it seems like with his speed, just getting the ball
in his hands would be a good idea. So look,
if you're giving up a fourth and a fifth rounder

(03:20):
for a wide receiver, everybody else is getting bumped down
the chain, right And is Cooper Cup now your third guy?
Is he your fourth guy? Is he going to be
out with a bad hamstring for a while. So I'm
really curious to see what the rest of that wide
receiver corps looks like now that they've acquired this guy.

Speaker 1 (03:36):
But my surface take is I love it. I love it.

Speaker 2 (03:39):
I mean, you're talking about turning two unknown commodities and
a fourth and a fifth round pick into a guy
that can play and as fast as hell and gives
you another dimension for the offense. And it kind of
reminds me a little bit dick of when Jackson won't
remember this because he's five years old, but when the
Seahawks had Grant Wistrom and Bryce Fisher, and they drafted
a guy named Lawrence Jackson, not Lauren Jackson, oh Jack.

(04:02):
They drafted Lawrence Jackson on the USC and everybody said, well,
what are.

Speaker 1 (04:06):
You doing that for?

Speaker 2 (04:06):
You already got Wisterman Fisher because they need depth, they
need rotational depth. And the more guns you can bring
off the edge, the better off you are. The more
guys that this offense can throw at people. With Sam
Darnold slinging the rock the way he is, the better
they're going to be. Eventually, the defenses are going to
make some adjustments and try to take away number eleven.
Eventually they're going to have to counter, and this is

(04:28):
their counter. This is their chest move. Counter is going
after this guy from the Saints. So I'm all for it.
I just wonder what it means for Cooper Cup and
those other guys.

Speaker 5 (04:36):
Well, I know what you're talking about with Cup, because
it's just that, you know, you bump a guy down
in the pecking order. When I saw this, I didn't
think as much Cooper Cup as I did Tory Horton.
I'm like, wait a second, isn't Tory Horton a twenty
two year old Rashid Shahed. I mean, aren't they a
similar And that's the first thing I want to ask
you when he comes on. How redundant is Rashid he
Shaheed's game with Tory Horton's game, because I kind of

(04:59):
like what I'm seeing from But absolutely your point, maybe
it's Shaheed JSN and Horton right, and Cooper Cupp is
the odd man out at four.

Speaker 1 (05:08):
Well, if he goes on the IR then yeah, well
of course you got your answer right.

Speaker 2 (05:11):
And so again I'm just I'm really curious to see
what that hamstring looks like.

Speaker 1 (05:16):
You know, he was on the trip. You know, you
guys saw him.

Speaker 2 (05:18):
He was there at the game on Sunday night on
the sideline with the headsets on, the other walkie talkie,
the whole thing.

Speaker 1 (05:23):
So I got no idea.

Speaker 2 (05:24):
I mean, there's obviously a chance they may have made
this move anyway, right, even with Cooper Cup, you know,
being old and maybe you know, phenomenal and he's healthy
and blah blah blah, they still may have made the move.
I do think that this move reeks of an offensive
wide receiver room that is hurt with Cup and Bobo
and they need help and they went out and they

(05:46):
got it in Shaheed, So I'm all for it. I
think this is another sign that these guys are gonna
go for it.

Speaker 1 (05:53):
This year.

Speaker 2 (05:53):
They've been getting just praised by everybody, if that means
anything to us. All the NFL pundits are talking about
how great a move this is by the Hawks, and
Chris Olave is on Twitter, you know, complimenting it and
saying what a great move it is for the Hawks,
and Saint fans are all pissed off they got rid
of him, blah blah blah. So I don't know, I mean,
I just it's the one thing I really appreciate about

(06:14):
the Seahawks franchise guys compared to other teams in the
city and maybe even other teams in the NFL, they
don't really sit around worrying about what the future is
going to look like. They see a Jimmy Graham, they
see a Percy Harvin, they see a Jamal Adams. And
I'm not saying this guy's on that level as far
as you know, the name recognition or what it took
to get him. But if they feel like they're gonna

(06:36):
get better today, they're gonna get better today.

Speaker 1 (06:39):
And it doesn't always work.

Speaker 2 (06:41):
But we sit around here and we bitch, and I
moan a lot about teams in this town that don't
have the same passion to win that we do. I
think it's crystal freaking clear that if there's one team
in town that shares that passion, it's at the vMac.

Speaker 4 (06:57):
I think that's right.

Speaker 5 (06:59):
There's two numbers I like to guess before I see them,
and that is I love to guess the spread on
a football game to determine which side I want to
go on. I don't even want to look at the number.
I want to tell myself, Okay, what do I think
this spread should be. And the other thing I like
to do is when I see a trade go down,
I like to guess what type of draft pick was
given up for that player. And my first guess because
I saw I saw the Shaheed deal, but I didn't

(07:20):
see the compensation. I was like, all right, to me,
it feels like a fourth round draft pick, and it
was a fourth and a fifth, So that's a little
more expensive than I would have wanted, would have hoped,
but not.

Speaker 4 (07:34):
So expensive that I'm like, oh, this is a dumb deal.

Speaker 1 (07:36):
Right right. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (07:37):
I mean I was a little bit surprised too by
how much they gave up for. But again, I think
when you're banged up and you've only got two wide
receivers that you can really count on right now, you
kind of don't have much of a choice but to
make a move like that.

Speaker 6 (07:51):
I think if we were sitting and doing this deal
with a team who is, like, I don't know, the
Chargers or the Chiefs or whoever else, it'd be a
different circumstance. Because we feel a certain way about fourth
and fifth round picks. We see a fourth and fifth
round pick and we think kJ Wright and Cam Chancell Sherman.
I think most other people in the NFL and around

(08:11):
the country look at fourth round and fifth round picks
and they say to themselves, yeah.

Speaker 1 (08:15):
It's a day three picks not make the team.

Speaker 6 (08:17):
And I think one of the things is that is, yes,
we've had a very deep history, but I would I
do want to This takes a lot of research that
I don't have time to do.

Speaker 1 (08:27):
I don't really care to do it. Somebody else do
it exactly nothing.

Speaker 6 (08:30):
Going take a look at the last ten years of
fourth and fifth round picks. How successful has this team
actually been in specifically those two rounds these I don't
think it was the previous five years that we always
dream of of Rights and Shermans.

Speaker 1 (08:45):
So I have no problem.

Speaker 6 (08:47):
With this to the extent of, like listen, it's just
so unlikely you find a star with those guys.

Speaker 2 (08:53):
Well, you love this. Last year in the fifth round
they had some compics. They got Tory Horton and Robbie
Oats in the fifth round just last year. I mean,
Oka and those guys are gonna work out A J.
Barner is he working on? He was a fourth rounder
two years ago, A fourth round two years ago. Me am,
I appreach it in twenty twenty four. Anthony Bradford, your
favorite offensive lineman was a fourth rounder in twenty twenty three.

Speaker 1 (09:12):
Is a starter.

Speaker 2 (09:13):
Kobe Bryant, Greek Wooland twenty twenty two, Trey Brown, twenty
twenty one, Kobe Parkinson, DJ Dallas, Phil Haynes, Hugo Amadi,
Trey Flowers, Michael Dixon. I mean again, you're going, eh,
but some of those guys are starter. No, that's the thing.

Speaker 4 (09:29):
He's I think in the last four years have been
really good.

Speaker 1 (09:33):
There's a window.

Speaker 6 (09:33):
There's a window there where I think the very very recently,
very good, and then there was the window where.

Speaker 2 (09:38):
It has absolutely I mean Jimmy Staton, Ty Smith, Luke Wilson,
Ferroald Simon, going back to the day Corey Tumor. Look,
I mean, it's it's it's I don't know what the
expected hit rate is, for example, on a fourth or
a fifth rounder, what you would even describe as a
hit rate.

Speaker 1 (09:56):
Does he have to be a starter? Does he have
to make the roster?

Speaker 2 (09:58):
I mean, obviously the expectations will drop for a fourth
and fifth rounder versus a first or a second round. Yeah,
but we do know that the Seahawks have had some
success with those picks, so I'm not just gonna throw
them away. I mean, I get what you're saying that
not everybody is cam chance through a kJ Wright, but
it is a little bit of a slight overpay, it
feels like.

Speaker 1 (10:17):
But I'm fine with that. Oh yeah, I have no
problem with that. If you have an obvious need, yes.

Speaker 2 (10:23):
And with these injuries at wide receiver, you have an
obvious need. And guys, here's the thing. They don't play
a lot of three wide receiver sets. But when they do,
they play them more than any other wide receiver set
right way, more than two and obviously more than four,
meaning that one running back, one tight end, the eleven personnel.
I saw Brady Henderson two was tweeting about that. So

(10:45):
they don't play a lot of three wide receiver sets
compared to the rest of the NFL. But it's the
most consistent thing that they do when it comes to
their wide receiver package. So they need a third guy,
and right now they don't have one. They just don't
with these guys banged up. I mean, Cody White, God
blessed some of the touchdown on Sunday Night. This guy's better, obviously.

Speaker 5 (11:02):
And to Jackson's point, I'm gonna I'm gonna buy what
he's selling because let's just say, I wanted them to
give a fourth round picker.

Speaker 4 (11:09):
I thought there was a fourth round thing.

Speaker 5 (11:11):
So basically I'm losing a fifth rounder for nothing. But
so I'll take whatever the average Seahawk fifth round pick
has been over the last twelve years under John Schneider.

Speaker 4 (11:22):
I'm okay with losing that player.

Speaker 5 (11:24):
Yeah, because that player is not going to be Tory Horton.
That player is going to be more like Nea Maya Pritches, right,
you know, Alton Robinson the more likely more likely to
be that than it is kind of thing.

Speaker 1 (11:39):
Yeah, I'm here, I hear.

Speaker 2 (11:41):
I mean we could also play that game for first
rounders too, you know, because they have not been good
in that regard either. We can't play for a lot
of draft picks. But I mean, look, you guys know
how I feel about draft picks. I mean it's draft
pick capital in the NFL is different than prospect capital
because there's thousands of prospects and minor league baseball, and
the only so many draft picks in the NFL. The

(12:02):
draft picks right to play right over in the NFL exactly.
So it's a little bit of a different thing. But
if you're telling me that I can get a known
it's it's the same deal with baseball guys. It's the
same argument at the trade deadline, known commodity for an
unknown commodity, a known commodity in Rashid Shihed, who's a
good player, not a great player, but a good player

(12:22):
right fast as hell knows, the offense consistently good. Whatever,
you're not locking in long term because the guys, a
free ag can always resign them, obviously, but I'm going
to give that guy up, or I'm going to trade
for that guy, and all I gotta do is give
up a couple of picks that could turn out to
be bums. I'd just kidding me, this is the time
to do that deal. If they stunk, if they were

(12:44):
two and six, forget it, forget it, no way.

Speaker 1 (12:46):
But they're not. They're six and three.

Speaker 5 (12:47):
I'd be disappointed if they didn't resign them, though now
because I don't want to. I mean, then you're giving
up a fourth and a fifth or a rental number
two wide receiver.

Speaker 2 (12:54):
What's he gonna want in the open market? And what
it was numbers looked like at the end of the year.
I mean, I would think the Hawks would have a
shot to get him. You know you want him back, then,
how about you make him a contract offer now, you know,
before he even hits free agencies.

Speaker 1 (13:04):
So I don't know. I mean, look, I like it.
I got no problem with it.

Speaker 2 (13:08):
Again, I'm just curious to see what this means for
the rest of that wide receiver cord, because if Cooper
cup is healthy and he's active on Sunday and he's
in the starting lineup for you or he's playing for you.
So this question, Tory Horton now become your fourth guy.
This guy's not going to be your fourth receiver. Cooper
Cup's not going to be your fourth receiver. I don't
think Tory Horton doesn't deserve to get bumped down the

(13:30):
ladder after the game he had over the weekend.

Speaker 1 (13:33):
He's been good, right for a rookie.

Speaker 2 (13:35):
So I got to think that this means that our
guy from Eastern is not ready yet to come back,
or maybe severely hobbled. We'll see, all right, we're gonna
break Fletcher mackel, who covers the Saints for New Orleans TV.
He's gonna tell us about Rashid Shaheed. Will fun with audio.
Greg lewis on the phone at four talking some dogs
because Mario Bailey is on a plane to Australia, by

(13:57):
the way, so it's gonna be kind of hard for
him to be here in the studio.

Speaker 1 (14:01):
He's doing a camp out there this week. So we'll
talk to Greg.

Speaker 2 (14:04):
We'll talk to Hugh about this at four point thirty,
John Wilner as well, Jim Bowden, Brian Schmetzer, tons going
on today. Man in a busy cracking Tuesday. You hear
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Speaker 7 (14:26):
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Speaker 1 (14:37):
R FL JSI And this guy, this guy is a
game record boy.

Speaker 6 (14:41):
He is.

Speaker 1 (14:42):
He's a touchdown waiting to happen. Maybe the fastest guy
in the league. Big play speed right now?

Speaker 3 (14:46):
Are you?

Speaker 1 (14:47):
And more than just a receiver, he's reversals. Just get
the ball in his kid's hand. He's electric.

Speaker 2 (14:52):
That's the voice of Bruce Arians, who is on with
Pat McAfee today talking about the newest member of the
Seahawk Y Receiving Corps, Rashid Shahee, where the Hawks gave
up a fourth and fifth round pick for it. Today,
there was something about Bruce Arians. Maybe you can remind
me they used to bug the hell out of me.
What was it?

Speaker 4 (15:12):
It was a jackass?

Speaker 1 (15:14):
Was that arrogant?

Speaker 5 (15:15):
Was that it that he was a jackass, and it
was just blatantly arrogant in prescoonfence.

Speaker 1 (15:19):
Right, Well, maybe that's what it was, I guess.

Speaker 2 (15:21):
I mean, there's all these great stories about Bruce Arians,
Like when he was the coach in Tampa Bay, he
would tell his coaches, Hey, you're not going to miss
a graduation, You're not going to miss a recital, You're
not going to miss this, and if you miss it,
you're fired.

Speaker 1 (15:31):
I just remember. It was famous for the way he
treated his assistant coaches.

Speaker 5 (15:35):
I mean there was for so long he had nothing
on his resume and we were all like, like, what.

Speaker 4 (15:39):
He was so cocky when absolutely nothing.

Speaker 1 (15:42):
That's exactly what it was.

Speaker 2 (15:44):
That he was arrogant for no reason, and then he
lucks into Tom Brady and he wins a title. So
that's what used to piss me off about Bruce Arians.
Plus he always used to beat the Seahawks when he
was the head coach of the Cardinals because the Cardinals
and Hawks always had this weird thing going on. So
Seahawks Cardinals. This weekend, we were going to effort to
get ahold of our friend Fletcher mackel, who covers the
Saints for television down there at WDSU, the NBC affiliate

(16:08):
gets some thoughts on the newest member of the Seahawk
Wide Receiver Corps.

Speaker 1 (16:12):
The other news of the day, the Malling is.

Speaker 2 (16:14):
Today exercising the option and ondress Moonhos and declining the
offer on Mitch Garver Polanco. I think the way the
Polanco thing's going now, he's got to decide if he
wants to take what is it six million?

Speaker 1 (16:28):
Is that right he did? Is it eight million now?
Or become a free agent?

Speaker 2 (16:32):
And I look, I mean, I don't know what he's
thinks the market is going to be for him. I
have no idea. They paid him seven and a half
million last year. He probably deserves a pretty hefty raise
after what he did a year ago, which is ludicrous
to say that, considering where we were with this guy

(16:52):
last January, right when they when they brought him back.
But eight million's probably underpaid. I would think that there's
a chance that he thinks he can get more on
the open market. But if he takes the offer from
the Mariners and takes it rather quickly, that probably tells
you what him and his agent think of the open market, right.

Speaker 5 (17:13):
You know, with him is weird because I can take
it or leave it if I found out tomorrow at
Hore Polanco, you know, and they came to an agreement
and he takes the option and be like.

Speaker 4 (17:22):
Okay, I mean, I'm you know, I'll deal.

Speaker 1 (17:25):
With it one more year.

Speaker 4 (17:26):
But if he leaves, I'm like, okay, he's.

Speaker 5 (17:30):
Gonna be thirty three years of age. He's gonna be
like a one and a half war player because he
was last year.

Speaker 1 (17:36):
He's doing a half war player DH.

Speaker 5 (17:38):
And he's your DH with at the most twenty to
twenty five home run abillity.

Speaker 2 (17:42):
Well let's talk about that a little bit later because
they're joining us right now on the radio show.

Speaker 3 (17:46):
Again.

Speaker 2 (17:46):
He's our go to guy with the New Orleans media,
which means he's the only guy that even.

Speaker 1 (17:50):
Ever calls back.

Speaker 2 (17:51):
By the way, WDSU NBC affiliate sports director ap Sportscaster
of the Year for Louisiana three times now according to
US Twitter bio, our friend Fletcher mackel joining us on
the radio program.

Speaker 1 (18:03):
Fletcher, how are you?

Speaker 2 (18:05):
First of all, thanks for doing this, and then give
us your take on the newest member of the Seahawks
Wide Receiving Corps, Rashid Shahi. If you're a Seahawks fan,
you give up a fourth and a fifth for this guy.

Speaker 1 (18:17):
How pumped up should Hawk fans be for this kid's arrival?

Speaker 3 (18:21):
Yes, first, thanks for having me as always, always appreciate
coming on. Your city is one of my favorite places
to visit for games. Always love getting out to the
Emerald City. You all also have Kate Anderson. You're getting
a good one. That's your quick baseball report. He's going
to be awesome for you all down the road. You
love it. Rashid Rashid Shaheed is a really good addition
for you all. Look, he's a little bit of a

(18:41):
one trick pony and and he is a gimmick guy.
He is a take the top off the defense, go
deep guy, but he's awesome at it. That's how he
made the team as an undrafted player. That's how he
stayed on the team. He has a familiarity with Clint Kubiak.
He's a awesome guy, hard worker, great teammates, beloved in
the locker room, beloved by the fan base. He's everything

(19:04):
you want in a guy that has done it the
right way, overcome the odds, and will be a great
fit with Darnold. When you all get Cooper Cup back
with Smith and Jigba, you're adding another serious weapon to
your offense and what is a crazy arms race in
the NFC West.

Speaker 4 (19:24):
You mentioned the relationship with Kubiak.

Speaker 5 (19:26):
Was he used differently with Clint Kubiak last year than
he's being used this year.

Speaker 1 (19:32):
A little bit.

Speaker 3 (19:33):
He had a little bit more responsibility this year because, look,
the Saints are awful, I mean like beyond awful, like
the worst team in the NFL awful. We have had
a massive fall from grace since Sean Payton and Drew
Brees left. So he was called on to do more
and there were some drops. He's not a slot receiver,
he's not a possession guy. He's a go deep guy.
And that's where he really excelled. That's where he excelled

(19:54):
when he first got here with Pete Carmichael. That's how
Kubiak used him when he's asked to do more, see
more flaws when he's playing in an offense with a
lot of weapons and he does what he does best,
take the top off the defense and beat everybody on
the field. I don't care who you all have on
your roster. He's the fastest guy on your roster starting today.

(20:15):
So in your offense, with the players you had and
as good as you are, he should be a great fit.
But look here he was asked to do more because
they're so bad, and again some of his flaws were exposed. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (20:28):
Well, Fletcher mackel, who has no flaws, is with us
from NBC in New Orleans, and Fletcher, I'm just kind
of wondering if the Saints and you mentioned it right there.
I mean, the quarterback situation is a train wreck down there.
If they had a better, more stable quarterback situation, would
they have made this move?

Speaker 1 (20:45):
No, But I mean.

Speaker 3 (20:46):
If they had a better, more stable quarterback situation, they'd
be relevant, and right now they're completely irrelevant and they're
at their lowest points in Hurricane Katrina. Look, they've bungled
everything over the last few years. I tell everybody this.
Sean Payton and Drew Buries left and a lot of
the football brain power left the building. That being said,

(21:07):
the Saints and the Buccaneers were on equal footing. In
twenty twenty three. The Bucks signed Baker Mayfield, the same
sign Derek Carr. The Bucks drafted well, the SAME's drafted poorly,
the Bucks are relevant and good. The Saints are an
absolute disaster. So the Saints have no quarterback situation there
in a this is a gut rebuild here. They need
draft picks. The only way forward is through the draft
into kind of start over starting now. And it was

(21:30):
painful to trade Rashi Jihad, but look, he's a free
agent after this year. He's probably gonna want a significant contract.
He may not fit the timeline if they draft a
quarterback or continue to go young. And so I actually
think this is one of those huge trades that is
probably a win win for both sides.

Speaker 5 (21:47):
Finally, and maybe you alluded it to it there. Finally,
what'd you think of the compensation? See, i've all had
to give up.

Speaker 3 (21:52):
I think it was fair. I would have loved to
have seen it as a third and fourth, but I
think that was probably too rich for a lot of teams.
Blood given that Heat is not a number one option,
he's not going to be a number one option for you,
and he probably isn't even a number two. But as
the number three, is a guy that you know like
he's going to make everybody else better just because of
his ability to get over the top. He's a great

(22:15):
number three. He's a solid number two. I think the
compensation at the end of the day was probably pretty
fair for an undrafted guy who is probably a three
receiver on a really great team.

Speaker 1 (22:26):
Got it? Fletcher macall great stuff.

Speaker 2 (22:28):
Always appreciate you answering the phone when so many others don't.

Speaker 1 (22:31):
Man, thank you. We'll talk sooner.

Speaker 3 (22:34):
Problem all right?

Speaker 2 (22:35):
Fletcher mackell, NBC affiliate New Orleans on Rashid Shahed loves him, says,
great pickup for the Hawks, fair compensation for the Saints,
and everybody goes home happy. How bout that factor fiction
right now?

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Speaker 2 (23:08):
All right, well, I made the mistake if not going
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Speaker 1 (23:11):
Last night I went with the Cowboys.

Speaker 2 (23:13):
One of the Ravens went with the Cowboys, and I
am a moron.

Speaker 1 (23:17):
Who stupid it is?

Speaker 2 (23:18):
The Cowboys suck? They are god awful and Jerry went
nuts today. Got some help for the defense obviously in Dallas,
but man, they're a bad, bad defensive football team.

Speaker 1 (23:29):
Offense didn't play well, so we're already in the hole. Guys.

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Speaker 5 (23:45):
One of the things I like to do in handicapping
is who is most dual loss? And there is no
question who is most dual loss in the NFL. That
is the six win in a row New England Patriots,
and the last four wins have been over New Orleans,
the aforementioned noufel team, Tennessee, Cleveland, and Atlanta by one.

(24:05):
They're at Tampa Bay this week. Tampa Bay is a
good football team. We know that Tampa only is favored
by two at home over the New England Patriots. That's
an easy at least field goal, if not touchdown victory
for Mighty Baker Mayfield.

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it may not be a good thing if he's nodding,

(24:44):
by the way.

Speaker 6 (24:44):
I just don't understand how we're eight picks into the weekend.
This is still on the board. Yeah, well, I don't
know how we didn't take the Ravens yesterday. Instead we
took the stupid ass Cowboys.

Speaker 1 (24:52):
Just awful.

Speaker 5 (24:53):
We got greedy because we figured the Ravens would be
available and the Cowboys weren't going to be available after tomorrow.

Speaker 2 (24:58):
Yes, if you have a selection that you want, you
gotta take it. I's gotta take it right away. I
can't worry about the other knuckleheads that work on this
radio station helping you out.

Speaker 1 (25:06):
Oh God, pisses me off.

Speaker 2 (25:08):
We're gonna break funnel audio coming next, and then Greg
Lewis canna jump on the phone. Talk some dogs before
their game with Wisconsin coming up on Saturday, pregame nine
point thirty, kickoff one thirty from Madison. We'll be out
there courtesy at Delta Airlines. Humilan joins at four to
twenty eight as well with his take on the Rashid
Shaheed acquisition coming up on ninety three three KJRFM.

Speaker 1 (25:32):
It's now time for Sufday in Diggs. Fun with audio.

Speaker 3 (25:35):
Jimmy g pawn Star, Jimmy mister garoppolo.

Speaker 1 (25:39):
Now let's have some fun with audio. All right, here
we go.

Speaker 2 (25:43):
Greg Lewis is gonna join us, by the way, next segment,
talk a little dogs before their game with Wisconsin on Saturday.

Speaker 1 (25:50):
Mario Bailey is not here because what's upright? He's on
a flight to Australia.

Speaker 4 (25:55):
That's a long flight. I'm not A few times.

Speaker 1 (25:58):
I like to go.

Speaker 2 (25:58):
One day, I'm not sure if I can handle it, though, Man,
how long is that flight?

Speaker 4 (26:02):
Eighteen eighteen from the San Francisco.

Speaker 2 (26:05):
LA's Thinking about it makes me want to gnaw my
arm off. Unbelievable.

Speaker 6 (26:08):
It's a good jet stream you can get there in
fourteen Yeah, he still going to one of the Quantas
Jets that has two stories.

Speaker 4 (26:13):
You can go up and walk around.

Speaker 1 (26:14):
And have fun.

Speaker 2 (26:15):
And I think a good high sounds a lot better.
And just passed the hell out on the plane. That
sounds better to me.

Speaker 1 (26:20):
He's bit.

Speaker 5 (26:20):
I did three movies and then slept and I woke
up like an hour before landing, so it was actually
pretty good.

Speaker 2 (26:26):
Well, well, we'll get Mario on the air with us
hopefully on Saturday. We're heading out there with the Delta
Venue Kings for the game. But right now a little
fun with audio slash. Hey did you hear that?

Speaker 1 (26:34):
Ay, Dick? Did you happen to hear? What's that? Dick?

Speaker 2 (26:38):
Let's start with number six. Let's go backwards here, all right.
On a Fox College Football show last Saturday, Bruce Feldman
made it crystal clear he does not think the Oregon
Ducks are going to make the college football Playoff.

Speaker 8 (26:52):
I got one for you. Oregon's number six in the country.
Dan Lanning's done an amazing job there. But they got
two really tough road games at Iowa at Washington. You
know how tough it is to win a Husky stadium.
I don't think the Ducks are going to make the playoffs.
That's my bold prediction. Mike Wow that no playoffs for

(27:12):
the organ does.

Speaker 1 (27:13):
So it sounds like he thinks they'll lose twice. Is
that right?

Speaker 2 (27:16):
They'll lose it, Kennick, and they'll lose to U double.
If they're a three loss team, they're done forget it.
So here's what I want. Here's my perfect scenario. Okay,
I want both teams to have a shot, and then
I want the Huskies to knock the Ducks out and
they take their spot in the playoff.

Speaker 1 (27:30):
That would be Would it be better?

Speaker 3 (27:32):
Yes?

Speaker 5 (27:33):
Would better if the Ducks were a two loss team
coming in and we knocked them out, or because it
would be a more impressive win. Would be better if
the Ducks were like ranked third in America and we
beat them before, But that would give us a better
chance of getting in.

Speaker 2 (27:47):
I'm not into the whole we look better because thing
I'm having that conversation with a buddy of mine about
Toronto and the Dodgers in the World Series. Whatever scenario
you have to paint that gets the Huskies in with
a win against Oregon and the Ducks out with a loss,
That's what I want to see happen.

Speaker 5 (28:04):
Okay, I'm just saying you have a better chance of
getting in if you beat a one loss duck team
versus a two.

Speaker 1 (28:09):
Loss p Well.

Speaker 2 (28:10):
Yeah, but I think if they go ten and two
the Huskies and Oregon is a three loss team and
you've got Ohio State in Indiana as the only other
two Big ten teams, I.

Speaker 1 (28:21):
Think Dub's gonna go. They're gonna make it, They're gonna
move up the rankings.

Speaker 2 (28:25):
I mean, Dick, the year Ohio State won the championship
when the first CFP rankings came out, they were sixteenth
when the first rankings came out, and they won the
whole friggin thing.

Speaker 1 (28:35):
You know what you dubbed did four years ago in twenty.

Speaker 2 (28:38):
Twenty two, they were unranked and they finished eighth in
the country. Dude, these next four weeks, the Huskies could
go from twenty fourth to a tenth in America easily
just by winning. So I would love to see that happen. God,
that'd be marvelous, man, But I don't know. I got
a funny feeling that Feldman's gonna be wrong. That sounds
like a hot take. By the way, right, let me

(28:59):
throw this at you and then If it doesn't happen,
nobody remembers it. But if it does happen.

Speaker 1 (29:03):
He'll entire war.

Speaker 2 (29:04):
Yeah, all right, all right, hey, Dick, did you happened
to hear that?

Speaker 3 (29:09):
What's that?

Speaker 1 (29:10):
What's that? Dick?

Speaker 6 (29:11):
Uh?

Speaker 1 (29:12):
Like?

Speaker 2 (29:13):
One? Two?

Speaker 1 (29:13):
Let's go back and he'll won one.

Speaker 2 (29:15):
Blake Snell and Tyler glasnow we're both on the Tampa
Bay Rays when they lost to the Dodgers in the
twenty twenty World Series, but both they're now in LA
and after their Game seven win in Toronto last Saturday, admitted,
if you can't beat them, join them.

Speaker 8 (29:30):
It's unbelievable. But we chase this in twenty twenty. We
lost it.

Speaker 1 (29:34):
Oh yeah, and I'll be honest, scene, I know it's incredible.
Didn't you join them?

Speaker 3 (29:39):
Baby?

Speaker 2 (29:40):
Well look, I mean it's not like the Tampa Bay
Rays wanted to re sign Blake Snell because they had
an opportunity to do that. He signed a free agent
contract for thirty million dollars a year whatever it was,
and then the Rays traded Glas. Now they got rid
of them. They sent them to the Dodgers in December
of twenty twenty three. So it wasn't like these two

(30:01):
guys like wanted to go back to Tampa Bay. Uh,
and they just said, you know, what the hell well
that we're gonna go just glob onto the Dodgers. One
guy was denied a contract by them and became a
free agent, and the other guy got traded.

Speaker 1 (30:14):
So what are you going.

Speaker 5 (30:15):
I'm just glad Blake Snell was able to perform in
Game seven because he had a four gettable World Series
other than that inning a third where he struck out
two yeah, two games where gave up five runs.

Speaker 2 (30:28):
Yeah, Well, he was marvelous in the NLCS, though against
Milwaukee he was phenomenal. So uh look, I mean that's
what makes that team so damn good. They can have
guys like that that don't pitch to their best of
their ability and they still find a way to freaking
win because they got Yama Marino.

Speaker 1 (30:44):
All right, Hey, Dick, did you happen to hear that?
What's that?

Speaker 3 (30:47):
Dick?

Speaker 2 (30:47):
The Blue Jays nearly one game seven, of the bottom
of the ninth on the ground out to second base
where the runner was from third was out by an
inch or two at home plate. You guys saw that
play with Kiner Faloffel. The game was also being played
in the jumbo trying at the Oilers game in Edmonton,
where the players, fans in broadcasters were all watching the
baseball game instead of the hockey game.

Speaker 1 (31:06):
Reminds me of the Seahawks and the Texans.

Speaker 3 (31:08):
Right.

Speaker 2 (31:08):
Oilers broadcaster Jack Michaels on Sports Net reacted with the
crowd to what they thought was the game ending.

Speaker 4 (31:18):
The Blue Ts have just won the World Series.

Speaker 1 (31:25):
They're calling him out the home How could he do that?
Oh my god, how could he do that? He just
watched the play and he said, we won the World Series.

Speaker 4 (31:34):
Do you look at the umpire.

Speaker 1 (31:35):
Within like a half a second, the home played umpire
called him out. Yep, what is he doing? It's so dumb?
That is absolutely was that on TV?

Speaker 3 (31:43):
Is that right?

Speaker 1 (31:44):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (31:44):
So people that are watching the Oilers game on TV.
I mean, I don't know how many people actually were
watching that versus the five JS. Well maybe more at Edmonton.
I don't know how big a Blue Jay fan. I
know one guy from Edmonton, by the way, hates Toronto.
Hates everything Toronto. There's probably there's a lot of Candians
that think that Toronto is as arrogant as Bruce arians is,
and they think they're the center of the country and

(32:04):
they root against We've found that so but that is
a horrific mistake. Mistake, awful, just awful. I mean, god, dude, time,
all you gotta do is just watch the umpupy. Yeah,
let me hear it again one more time, one more time.
Come on, I want to hear it again.

Speaker 1 (32:22):
The Blue Tas have just won the World Series. Cut
it there. That's terrible.

Speaker 2 (32:27):
From now on, Jack Michaels will forever be known as
the guy that said the Blue Jays won the World Series.

Speaker 1 (32:31):
When they did not. I mean, you'd be you walk
into traffic if you couldn't.

Speaker 4 (32:35):
I just I would never forgive myself.

Speaker 1 (32:37):
Can we get that as a drop?

Speaker 4 (32:39):
Because that should be a fun drop.

Speaker 1 (32:42):
We got time for one more, all right.

Speaker 2 (32:44):
Greg lewis going to join Talk Some Dogs next on
ninety three three KJRFM.

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