November 19, 2025 • 34 mins
In the first hour, Dave Softy Mahler and Dick Fain talk about Michael Penix’s latest injury and Mike Florio joins to discuss that, the Seahawks and more NFL news, then look at Sam Darnold in big games before Fact or Fiction and Kraken coach Lane Lambert joins.
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Go talk to Laye Lambert three forty five Petros at four.
Kevin Harlan's with us at five o'clock tonight, and then
because we had the cracking Red Wings game yesterday we
could not hear from Mario Bailey and Greg Lewis. They
will join us at six pm and talk about what
we saw against Purdue, what's coming up this weekend versus UCLA.
So a lot to get to Seahawks and Titans on Sunday. Obviously,
(00:24):
I don't think Harlan's seen the Titans yet this year
because I think, well, he may have seen him on tape,
he may have seen him against a better team.
Speaker 2 (00:33):
He may have seen him in the preseason.
Speaker 1 (00:34):
I have no idea he does the Packer games for
television for preseason. So, but you're right, I mean, it's
not very often that a premier broadcast guy like Kevin
Harlan is relegated to do in Tennessee Titan games.
Speaker 2 (00:48):
Man, he doesn't get the D game, No, that's the
F game.
Speaker 1 (00:51):
As a matter of fact, he will join us at
five and we'll talk about them.
Speaker 2 (00:54):
Where.
Speaker 1 (00:54):
You know, look, I mean you look at the now
with Peedix being out, and I don't know how much
this would have changed even if Michael was totally healthy,
And I'm super bummed for him, man. I mean, guys,
we got the two best years so far of Michael
Pennix's football life, not close in Washington. I mean, how
lucky are we that this guy stayed healthy for two
consecutive years. Remember the way he was playing at the
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end of the regular season when we all thought he
had a rib injury. He was going over to the
sideline there and sticking his head in the coms box
and the Apple Cup game and sniffing on something that
we thought was to get him through the game. Remember
all that, Remember all those videos we would see on
social media, and then all of a sudden, boom, the
guy goes to Vegas against Oregon the next week, looks great,
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and then takes a month off and looks incredible against Texas.
So maybe he was dealing with some kind of rib
injury at the end of the year. But for this
guy to stay healthy in the two years that we
had him here in Seattle, how don't you use this
term very often? Because I just don't talk like this
at all. It's a blessing, It's.
Speaker 2 (01:55):
An absolute blessing, tech blessed, that's what you're saying. It's
an absolute blessing for Husky fan. And again, I don't
ever talk like that at all.
Speaker 1 (02:03):
I don't even use that word on social media unless
I'm being sarcastic hashtag blushed. But to get this guy
for two years and to not have any major injuries
when that's all he's dealt with his entire career is unbelievable.
Speaker 2 (02:16):
Yeah, it really is.
Speaker 3 (02:17):
And I'm really anxious to see what type NFL quarterback
he is going to be. I thought he would be
a very good quarterback. I still think he's gonna be
a very good quarterback. I don't know if the head
coach quarterback fit is very good in Atlanta right now.
So I think Michael Pennix is sufferings through some of
those growing pains that young quarterbacks have when they have
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defensive head coaches that really don't connect with the quarterback.
And you know, still, he's got a three to one
touchdown interception ratio this year, so it's not like he's
been horrible when he's been in there.
Speaker 1 (02:48):
Well, their offensive coordinator Zach Robinson, and I agree with
you on the whole defensive minded coach quarterback thing that
if you're gonna have a defensive minded head coach, you
better be damn elite on defense. Number one, or that's
the point, right, and then number two, you better hire
a coordinator who knows what he's doing. And I'll tell
you what I might consider doing if I were Raheem
Morris as, I might consider go out getting Ryan Grubb
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to work with Michael Penix again, stick him in there
in Atlanta.
Speaker 2 (03:13):
I mean, I'm not saying he's not enjoying Alabama job.
Speaker 1 (03:17):
I think the NFL is always what people strive for, right,
especially in that business. Would I would think if you're
a coordinator in the NFL, we can talk to Mike
about this because there's I think you agree, not a
lot of hot candidates right now in the NFL like
there was four or five years ago. Ryan Grubb goes
to Atlanta and Michael Pennock stays health and he blows
up in a couple of years, he's going to be
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a candidate for a job. That's just the way this
WORRI mean, look at Clint kubiac well, right, and you
kidding me?
Speaker 3 (03:43):
And Ryan Grubb also has the persona of a head coach,
totally right with some of our other coordinators in this town,
both of the U dub and the Seahawks do not
have well.
Speaker 1 (03:53):
I mean, I would just compare him to Kubiak's personality.
I'd compare him to Steve Belichick and Brandan Carrer's personality
when those guys were here in Seattle. I know Steve's
a defensive guy, but I mean, you know me, I'm
sitting there at those press conferences with Carol and Belichick
a year ago, and I was this close to just
asking both of them, why.
Speaker 2 (04:11):
Are you here?
Speaker 4 (04:13):
Like?
Speaker 2 (04:13):
What are you doing here?
Speaker 4 (04:14):
Right?
Speaker 1 (04:14):
How about not why are you in Seattle? But why
are you having this press conference? How about our guy
proud to be your bush?
Speaker 2 (04:21):
Totally? Of course? Yeah, it did not exactly help you,
got it, coach?
Speaker 1 (04:24):
You gotta be a CEO, right, All right, let's get
to it. Mike Florio joining us right now.
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Speaker 6 (05:25):
I'm doing great today?
Speaker 7 (05:26):
How are you?
Speaker 2 (05:26):
But we are good.
Speaker 1 (05:28):
Dick and I were just talking about this on the
air before you showed up. The Michael Pennocks injury with
his ACL obviously hits home for us. He was here
for two years. He was a Husky legend, went to
the National championship beat Oregon three times, so we're all
super bummed about Mike. And then both of us kind
of agree that, you know, when he's healthy, he might
need better coaching, and I just tossed out, hey, maybe
Rahie Morris goes to Ryan Grubb and says, you want
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to reunite with Michael and be his coordinator in Atlanta
next year. And then Dick asked, what's a better job man,
the offensive coordinator for Alabama or the offensive coordinator of
a team like the Atlanta Falcons.
Speaker 6 (06:00):
What do you think You're assuming that Raheem Morris will
e can be there to make that decision. I think
that between the misguided decision to give Kirk Cousins ninety
million over two years with a ten million guaranteed, and
the next year followed by the decision to draft Michael Pennix,
neither has worked out for the Falcons. I'd be surprised
if Arthur Blank, the owner of the team, doesn't make
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some major changes and has some real accountability for this
disastrous handling and the quarterback position.
Speaker 2 (06:28):
There's no question that Rahee Morris has got to be
on the hot seat.
Speaker 3 (06:32):
Mike Softy and I are both in agreement after watching
a Seahawks team go to Los Angeles and be a
sixty yard field goal away from stealing a win despite
four interceptions from their quarterback, we both feel better about
this team's chances going forward than we did even before
the game, despite the loss.
Speaker 2 (06:47):
Would you agree with that?
Speaker 6 (06:50):
Well, I think it shows that the Seahawks are legitimate.
It was a lost opportunity. There's a rematch coming up
on a Thursday night in a few weeks. That becomes
critical now because if you get swept by the Rams,
they have essentially a two game lead over you actually
go to three games. Everything else hold as it currently is.
So they've got to beat the Rams, and they've got
to otherwise take care of business in the division to
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try to win it. But yeah, the Seahawks glass half full.
They belong glass half empty. They squaddered an opportunity to
steal a game from the Rams that would have made
everyone say, hey, the Seahawks are one of the best
teams in the NFL, and they still are. Right there's
still number six in the power rankings. They didn't move.
Not the power rankings mean anything, but they're one of
the best teams in the NFL right now, and they're
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squarely in the window to be a problem when the
postseason rolls around. The question is the next time Sam
Darnold has a big game, is he going to go
cherot into pumpkin or is he going to keep doing
the things he does in the games that aren't as consequential.
That's the key.
Speaker 1 (07:47):
Yeah, and that's a topic here in Seattle, Mike Right,
I mean, it really is. You know, I think everyone,
I think agrees that going from Gina him was the
right call. But there's a lot there's a lot of
people out there that just wonder if this guy can
hack it when the lights are brightest. And it sounds
like you agree that that's a that's fair analysis.
Speaker 6 (08:07):
Well, look, that's what separates good from great. You have
moments to come along very infrequently. What do you do
with those moments when the chance is there to win
a big game? And I was more troubled by Week eighteen.
It's a troit than I was the playoff loss to
the Rams, because that was a total team failure. The
loss at a troit if Donald isn't putting a little
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too much air on the balls because the moment was
a little too big. They win that game and they're
the number one seed, and who knows what happens the
rest of the way. So yeah, it's fair. It's a
fair criticism, and it's the ceiling that he's either going
to break through or he's not. But you don't get
many opportunities to do it. And the problem with narratives
like that, the more it happens, the more pressure there
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is the next time you have a chance to do it.
So when they have that next big game, whether it's
the one against the Rams or some other regular season game,
it's going to be the difference maker or even in
a playoffs, will he be able to shed the reputation
and change the narrative. There's going to be more pressure
on him until he does it.
Speaker 3 (09:06):
Mike, which team's better the twenty twenty four Chiefs that
won every close game but their analytics said that they
weren't very good, or the twenty twenty five Chiefs whose
analytics are actually better than last year but they lose
every close game.
Speaker 6 (09:20):
Well, you have to win, and they're in a mode
of desperation now that we haven't seen in the Patrick
Mahomes era. Their worst finish ever with Mahomes since he
became the starter in twenty eighteen. Is losing an overtime
of the AFC Championship. They're five and five now, they
may miss the playoffs. That weird play in Jacksonville where
Trevor Lawrence fell down twice and then got up and
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scored the game winning touchdowns. That maybe the moment that
keeps them out, because it may come down to Jacksonville
and the chief Todd head to head for the seventh seed,
and the Chiefs lose out on that tiebreaker, and it's
something that's hard to even say, and it seems inconceivable,
but they may not make the playoffs. They've really got
some work to do down the stretch. Now, are they
capable of finding the das pedle? Do they have the
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institutional experience to turn things around?
Speaker 5 (10:05):
Yes?
Speaker 6 (10:06):
Yes, of any team out there that would be five
and five and on the ropes. They've got the pieces,
and they've got the coaching, and they've got the leadership,
and they've got the quarterback to do it. They just
have to do it. And they've got the Colts and
then they've got the Cowboys on a short week and
the Cowboys at home. Now that they have a little swagger,
and I won't be surprised that they beat the Eagles
on Sunday. The way they're playing right now and what
they fell with that defense, these next two games are
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critical to the Chiefs.
Speaker 1 (10:29):
Do you think they would make any changes of significance
if they missed the playoffs. I mean, it's obviously logical
to say, well, just bring them all back and just
shelve it and whatever. But I guess Travis Kelce more
likely to quit retire as Andy Reid more likely to retire.
Speaker 2 (10:46):
Do you see any changes of significance if the Chiefs
missed the playoffs.
Speaker 6 (10:51):
I don't think Travis Kelsey's coming back in because I
thought he was going to retire if they'd won the
super Bowl, and right after the super Bowl on his podcast,
he was sounding like a guy who was coming to
turn with retirement. Something changed his mind and caused him
to decide to make one last run at a storybook ending.
I'm not sure he comes back. I'd be surprised if
he does. I don't see Reid retiring because look, as
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long as he has Patrick Mahomes, he's gonna have a chance.
We can treat this year as an aberration, But they're
gonna have to to do some work. They're gonna have
to address some deficiencies on both sides of the ball.
They're not where they need to be. Their defense isn't
what it was, their offense isn't what it was. Their
running game is not impressive, and I mean, frankly, they
they don't commit to the run, even when they have
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a great running back. You know, they were trying to
trade for Breese Hall from the Jets, and what would
have happened if the would have had them. They're gonna
run the ball twenty five times. That's just not what
they are. But I think they'll be changes, necessary changes.
But it's not like they're gonna trade Patrick Mahomes and
just completely start over. And I've seen some chatter like
maybe hold one out. Do you think he's gonna want
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out after one bad year. He's committed to that team,
he's committed to that town, and he'll be committed to
trying to fix everything and come back better than ever
next year. We'll just see if he can get the
help around him that he doesn't have right now.
Speaker 3 (12:04):
Mike, you wrote today that the Steelers have yet to
use DK in a way that justifies their investment. That
just sounds like a half a decade here in Seattle,
we've talked about that one thousand times. So now that
it's been two teams, it leads me to ask you
the question, is it the team's not using him right?
Or is DK just not the receiver everybody hopes he is.
Speaker 6 (12:24):
I just think it's the team's not using him right.
Look at what George Pickens has done in Dallas. The
Steelers never used him. He was frustrated and justifiably. The
skills are there. I've seen them in Pittsburgh and they
never were able to design an offense. And we've talked
about this before when DK was in Seattle. There are
things you can do to put the ball in an
elite athlete's hands. You can do jet sweeps and bubble
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screens and all those little tricks of the trade that
will allow you to get a guy who is man
among boys talented into a position where he can have
an impact on the game. So when the Steelers made
an unprecedent and move for them, they've never paid market
value to someone who previously didn't play for the team.
They have a hard time paying market value to people
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who do play for the team. That made me think
they're going to go out of their way to try
to justify this, and they just haven't. And so far,
Pickens is having a much better year in Dallas than
Metcalf is having with the Steels, and a lot of
it to do with the quarterback too. Aaron Rodgers has
to let it rip down the field. It can't be
a bunch of slamp passes a DK Metcalf, which is
what we see more often than not.
Speaker 2 (13:27):
What are the odds Micah Pete Carroll being one and
done in Vegas?
Speaker 6 (13:31):
Well, there's two sides to this. Do the Raiders want
to bring him back? And does he want to come back?
I think he may have thought that that team was
going to be a little better equipped to compete than
it is. Is he really want to come back and
have another bad season on the tail end of his career.
And the guy who really matters in Las Vegas is
Tom Brady because Mark Davis, the owner of the team,
has made it clear that he listens to Brady. One
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of the reasons Brady got a sweetheart deal for a
chunk of the franchise was because of his expertise, So
what Brady wants is what going to happen. And if
Brady wants to go in another direction at coach Mark
Data is going to listen to him and I, Hey,
they started off great. They somehow beat the Patriots in
Week one. It shows you how points week one of
the regular season is. But the Raiders have just been
a disaster and they may be the worst team in
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football right now, even though their record is one game
better than the Titans.
Speaker 1 (14:17):
Yeah, they were three and seven Dick in twenty twenty one.
That's the worst it got for him after ten games.
He's two and eight now. So this is unchartered territory.
Speaker 2 (14:25):
And they're just getting bludgeon too. They're not even close, Mike.
Speaker 3 (14:28):
This is an incredible stat Seven of the top eight
quarterback cap hits are five hundred or worse.
Speaker 2 (14:35):
Right now, does that mean anything? Can we read anything
into that?
Speaker 6 (14:40):
Well, look, this is one of the realities of you know,
you get a quarterback in the draft and you decide
that he's passed over the pats vale line, and so
we need to pay him. There are a lot of
quarterbacks out there making more money than they should, and
they need to be held to a higher standard when
they're not living up to the contract. But it does
put a burden on the rest of the team. And
even I know I'm a big proponent of guys getting
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every last dollar they can, it's it does have a consequence.
And look, I don't know if it's just a short
term thing. I don't know if it's a blip on
the radar screen, but it is something worth paying attention to.
And I wonder when you know the Rams did it well.
They didn't do it with Jared Goff. They did it
after they paid Jared Goff. They didn't do it in
twenty nineteen when they could. I'm waiting for a team
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who has a guy they took in the top ten
who is good enough, but they just say, no, you
know what, We're gonna do something else instead of giving
you fifty million a year, fifty five million a year,
whatever the market's going to be.
Speaker 1 (15:33):
As the cap keeps going up, Mike Florio with us, Mike,
before you go, I got to tell you, this spitting
thing in the NFL has got to stop.
Speaker 2 (15:39):
It's cowardly, it's disgusting.
Speaker 1 (15:42):
We saw Jalen Carter do it, and then we saw
Jamar Chase do it, and I'm wondering if one game
is enough, man, I mean, is one game enough for
these guys that keep doing this crap?
Speaker 6 (15:52):
Well, you know, the president has changed before our eyes
this season. There had never been a true suspension until
this week. The Jalen Carter quote unquote suspension was an
ejection with a fine in the amount of a game
check that simulated a suspension. Right, this is the first
time a guy's been suspended. And I don't know what
the arguments that the appeal hearing were. I saw that
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Chase was going to argue I didn't spit because if
I would have spit, I would have spit in his faith.
I mean, some ridiculous logic like that. The argument should
have been there has never been a suspension for spitting.
You can't just change the precedent like that. But at
the end of the day, it's one hearing officer, Jordy Nelson,
who made the decision. He has full discretion to go
one way or the other. He made the decision to
uphold the suspension, so there can be no doubt going forward.
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And every team needs to explain it to every player.
Every agent needs to explain it to their clients. If
you spit on another player, you will be suspended and
you'll lose the compensation that goes along with it. And
for Tomorro's stath it ends up being over five hundred
thousand dollars.
Speaker 1 (16:52):
Yeah, that's not insignificant. All right, Mike, you're the best,
great stuff. We're talking a week see a man. All right,
but hold Mike Florial with us. We're going to break
factor fiction. We are clinging to a percentage points lead
in this contest. This is big, big day. We gotta
have your perform man on this one. Conferred a clutch performance.
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First of all, Lane Lambert will join us. Belated birthday boy,
turned I believe sixty one. I think yesterday.
Speaker 2 (17:42):
God. The fact that I'm there in nine years from
now is insane.
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very very soon. It's Wednesday, It's Jackson Day. We are
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lead for the overall championship in front of Chuck and Bucks.
Speaker 2 (18:34):
Let's not be stupid about this, Jackson. How dumb can
I be? Look at an injury report? Jackson?
Speaker 1 (18:38):
Hi, Let's put some effort into this one today, Pal,
all right? Was the one he picked a few weeks ago?
The like basically drew one out of a hat or something.
Speaker 3 (18:45):
What was it?
Speaker 4 (18:45):
They I don't know.
Speaker 3 (18:46):
I don't know what you just did one so ram
like your your rationale for it was? I was like
a month, imply Rammed.
Speaker 2 (18:53):
I'm going back through. I know, I'm not sure what
you're referring.
Speaker 1 (18:57):
Well, he won on the Hawks minus the points against
the Manders, he lost on the Colts, he lost on
the under in the Browns game.
Speaker 6 (19:05):
I know what this is.
Speaker 2 (19:06):
I think the game that you are referring to is
the Minnesota Rutgers game, the Dan Wilson game.
Speaker 9 (19:11):
Yes, it was in the middle of the Mariners playoff run,
and I'm like, you know what, We're back in the mirrors.
We're back in Dan Wilson. He's a Minnesota almama. You know,
sometimes the logic is sound.
Speaker 2 (19:20):
You never know.
Speaker 1 (19:20):
Sometimes throwing a dart at a wall and seeing if
you can hit a bullseye is the best approach.
Speaker 2 (19:24):
It's going to be fun and games as long as
we don't lose by one day for your struggling. So
we're gonna who to blame. Your fair share too. You
know who to blame if we do. You know who
to blame if we do.
Speaker 1 (19:33):
How Dune can I be look at an injury report Jackson.
So we'll get that coming up in a matter of
a Minute's going to see a lucky eagle. All right,
here's the deal. So I'm gonna just rip this off
directly from our friend Hugh Mellon. By the way, who
was on with it was Mark James MJ in the
Midday yesterday on the radio program. Hey, I sat this
lie and he's talking about Sam Donald and this impression
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that people have that Sam Donald doesn't show up for games, right,
because he made the point and it's a great line
that Don James told him, people only remember the big
games that you lost, not the big games that you won.
And I went back to last year because you brought
this up on the radio show as well. Do you
think thirteen and two Minnesota versus eleven and four green
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Bay was a big game for those two teams last year? Well,
Sam Donald in that game was twenty thirty three of
forty three for three seventy seven, three touchdowns and a
pick in a two point win twenty seven to twenty
five over green Bay. Going back to Week four at
lambeau Field, Sam Donald twenty of twenty eight two to
seventy five, three touchdowns and a pick. Are those not
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big games against a division rival? How come nobody's talking
about that? How come nobody's talking about those.
Speaker 2 (20:46):
Games already out?
Speaker 3 (20:47):
Because the last two that we saw, yeah, were the
two bad ones. I think that's why I don't necessarily
I mean to say that Don James says, we don't
remember the good.
Speaker 2 (20:56):
I remember a lot of good Don James wins that
we had talking about Hugh Mill.
Speaker 1 (21:00):
He's talking about a quarterback from a quarterbacks perspective, you know,
not not really from a dick and softy perspective that
you know, the people remember the quarterbacks. They will make
much of a bigger deal when you struggle versus when
you don't struggle.
Speaker 2 (21:13):
And look, I get it.
Speaker 1 (21:15):
I'm not stupid over here, well kind of stupid, but
I get why people are talking about Darnald like that
because it was back to back games. It was the
Lion game, and then it was the Ram game, and
then here we are. The biggest game he's played so
far this year was the Ram game. But the Tampa
Bay game was pretty big too, against a really good team,
and he went bananas in that game. You know, made
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a mistake or two, but they scored thirty three points
against Tampa Bay in a lot of ways because of him.
Speaker 2 (21:41):
So I'll just go back to what I Snoria Dick.
Speaker 1 (21:44):
I mean, it may bear out that Sam Darnold if
the Hawks make the playoffs, then they better Dan will
make the playoffs. They're gonna win three in a row,
by the way, and be ten and three. If they
make the playoffs and he struggles in that very first
game and they lose because the quarterback played, it's going
to be almost impossible at that point to fight this back.
Speaker 3 (22:04):
That's why I think those last two games against the
Rams and the forty nine Ers are so important. I
mean the forty nine Ers is almost the JV game
leading up to the varsity game, or it was the
only way around.
Speaker 6 (22:14):
Right.
Speaker 3 (22:14):
We've got the Rams first, yes, and I mean you've
got if you can get that Rams game in particular,
and then you can back it up with a win
against the Niners on the road, right then I think
a lot of this. Yes, people will still say, all right,
he's got to perform in the playoffs, but they're not
really going to have a leg to stand on if
Darnold is great against the Niners and the Rams to
end the season.
Speaker 1 (22:34):
Well, by the way, what I would do if fire
you a little betting advice is if you can do it,
I would parlay the next three games with Seahawk victories
and the under and every single game Titans, Vikings, Falcons.
That's Kirk Cousins, JJ McCarthy and cam Ward. That's who
you will see against the Seahawk defense. I'm not saying
bet it't huge. You know, a couple of bucks, ten bucks,
twenty bucks, whatever. See what it pays, might be paying
(22:56):
for your entire Christmas budget. All right, let's get to it.
Factor fiction right now?
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Speaker 1 (23:20):
All right, I look at the top of the standings
on Factor of Fiction, and I see Chuck Poull percentage
point sixty three point two percent. I see Dick Fane
in second place fifty seven point one percent. I see
Dave Softy mal Or third place fifty two point four percent,
and I see Jackson Felts second from the bottom in
front of Jessemin McIntyre thirty three point three percent.
Speaker 2 (23:42):
That costs. I mean, that's like you move out of
your house.
Speaker 9 (23:45):
I gave you guys the opportunity to send me out
and you didn't do it. So, but I think I
have one more games you want us to shoot you Jackson?
Speaker 1 (23:55):
Yet, when you're a horse, for God's sake, My point
is is that everything's a trend, right, and the trend is.
Speaker 2 (24:03):
You now being on the rise in the final month
or so of the year.
Speaker 1 (24:07):
They only got a couple weeks left of the contest, right,
did three more weeks? Is that right of the contest?
So I think you're gonna end with a bang. Yep,
you're gonna end with a huge boom.
Speaker 2 (24:16):
What do you got Wednesday, Jackson?
Speaker 6 (24:18):
Go for it.
Speaker 9 (24:18):
This is the game I'm most confident about in the
entire year. This is a football team who is pissed off. Okay,
they thought that they should have been in the College
Football Playoff.
Speaker 2 (24:28):
They said, we are going to be the twelve seed.
Speaker 3 (24:31):
We are in.
Speaker 2 (24:32):
We have had that good of a season.
Speaker 9 (24:33):
We've scored almost sixty points in three of the last
four games, dominant offensively, and yet they were left out.
Speaker 2 (24:41):
So now income the Washington.
Speaker 9 (24:43):
State Cougars, I tell you what, boys, James Madison University
is pissed off that they are not. And then you
should see the message boards, the fans, even the players,
they are thinking that right now, this is the biggest
slight that they are not in as the twelve seed.
They are now determined to go out and win this
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game again for the third time in the last four weeks,
by forty plus points.
Speaker 2 (25:09):
The line is.
Speaker 9 (25:10):
Thirteen and a half thirty. They just have to win
by two touchdowns. And it's a team that's dominating offensively.
They're having an incredible season. They all think they should
be the twelve seed. James Madison minus thirteen and a
half against the Cougs.
Speaker 1 (25:24):
Well, they played Louisville and got beat by fourteen earlier
in the year. Wait, outside of that, it's Liberty Georgia,
Southern Georgia State, Louisiana, Old Dominion, Texas State, Marshall and Appstate. Yeah,
Washington State's in that group. That's who's on their schedule,
and they've creamed everybody, all right, so we're given how
many points? Thirteen and a half? Thirteen and a half?
All right, I kind of like it, you know. I'm
not like a yeah, but I kind of like it.
(25:46):
I can already tell Dick hates it, but I like
it minus thirteen and a half. James Madison over the
Cougs and the Coug's are going there?
Speaker 4 (25:53):
Is that right?
Speaker 1 (25:53):
They're traveling to Virginia? Okay, so take James Madison. The
Dukes give the points against Wazoo factor fiction to four, nine,
four or five to one.
Speaker 2 (26:02):
Right now, Hey, Dick, do you like it?
Speaker 8 (26:04):
No?
Speaker 3 (26:05):
No, you know, for me, it's kind of like a
dish when you go to a restaurant I never been
to before and somebody else orders, oh, you gotta try
this right, and they bring it to the table and
you're like, oh, I don't know, man, and then you
take it.
Speaker 2 (26:18):
They're like try it and you take a bite, and
you're like, that's actually pretty good. That's actually pretty good, Jackson.
I kind of like that.
Speaker 3 (26:26):
We've written we've ridden the Cougars a lot this year,
and they've been pretty good to us.
Speaker 2 (26:30):
So now we're going against the court. Why not?
Speaker 1 (26:32):
All right, Well, we're gonna do it because it's done.
Can't take it back now, No take back a good
pick wazoo uh going to James Madison.
Speaker 2 (26:39):
We like the Dukes minus the points. Get your picks
in right now.
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Speaker 1 (27:30):
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Hopefully it'll in with the Stanley Cup Championship someday. The
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Lane Lambert with us right now on the radio program. Coach,
How are you?
Speaker 3 (27:57):
Uh?
Speaker 4 (27:58):
Pretty good?
Speaker 7 (27:58):
Guys?
Speaker 4 (27:59):
Pretty good? Are you? Guys?
Speaker 2 (28:00):
Great?
Speaker 1 (28:01):
It's great to have you back on the radio show.
Appreciate you doing this and agreeing to do this on
a weekly basis. We'll see if you want to stick
with us in a couple of weeks, but for now,
I think it's all gravy. But hey, happy birthday and
the guys didn't get a win for you last night.
Who's getting traded because the guys couldn't get a win
for you on your birthday yesterday?
Speaker 4 (28:20):
Yeah, it shows you.
Speaker 6 (28:22):
It shows you what they think can be, doesn't it.
Speaker 3 (28:25):
What'd you do after the game? He can tell me
you at least got to go out and celebrate a birthday.
And I know you're not in the best mood after
a loss, but did you do something at least?
Speaker 4 (28:35):
No. We we got on a bus, went to the plane,
came to Chicago and here we are where we play
the Hawks tomorrow night. So business as usual. You know,
birthdays are I'm happy they're still coming, but they're not
they're not. Yeah, they're not something that I really make
(28:55):
a big deal about.
Speaker 1 (28:56):
Well, i'll tell you what, man at our age, I
think doing. And then your birthday sounds pretty damn good
to be totally honest with you. Man, So happy birthday
again from everybody here. But let's let's talk about where
you guys are at overall. Right, first time the three
of us have had a chance to converse here on
the radio show first year in nine to five and
five after the first nineteen games of the year, give
(29:20):
us a take, and what you think you have on
your hands.
Speaker 2 (29:22):
With these guys so far after the first few weeks
of the season.
Speaker 4 (29:27):
Well, I think there's you know, there's always things that
you feel like you can improve on, and we certainly,
you know, we certainly have those things, you know, I
think our guys and coming into training camp and the
first you know, like you say, the first almost quarter
of the season, you know, the guys have really embraced
(29:49):
the the changes, the things that we're trying to do
as a team. In terms of how we want to
play and you know, how we want to be to
play against. And you know, they've done a really good
job so far of trying to embrace that and doing
doing their ultimate best. The one thing this team does
is it works and our guys compete. And that's the
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number one thing you know that I asked for coming
into training camp period, is you got to work and
you got to compete. Have we had a couple of
situations where we haven't liked our game, Yeah, we have,
but certainly, you know, there's it's not for a lack
of effort.
Speaker 3 (30:30):
So what does crack and hockey look like under Lane Lambert,
Because certainly it looks like you guys got a good vibe.
Speaker 2 (30:35):
You're just two points out in the in the Pacific
Division from the.
Speaker 3 (30:38):
Lead, and this was a team that largely is back
from last year that really struggled. So what are some
of those tenets that you're pushing in there? Obviously working
in the early going.
Speaker 4 (30:49):
Well, we you know, we felt and when I did
a little bit of a dive into the team, you
know in the past, this pass for me, I kind
of you know, like from day one, I said, we
moved forward. What everybody starts with a clean slate, you know,
all that stuff. But uh, you know, we felt like
we wanted to be better as a hockey team defending
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and and not giving the other team uh so many
opportunities and and certainly cut our goals against down and
put our goaltenders in a better environment to have success.
And you know, that's that's step one, is we we've
we've kind of worked our way from our goaltender out
to try and build that you know, that identity and
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that trust and then you know, from there and and
I've I've done this for quite a few quite a
few years in my career. You know. The the offense
piggys piggybacks off of that, and we do feel like
we've we've got a little ways to go in terms
of our offensive play, you know, and the stuff that
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we continue to work on, and we'll continue to work
on every day. But certainly, you know, I think our
team from an identity standpoint is, uh, you know, we're
hard to play against, and certainly, uh, through our work
ethic and through the fact that we can we can
defend well. Now we have to we have to find
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a ways to score more goals in certain situations.
Speaker 1 (32:16):
Yeah, no doubt right, that's the that's the big key
is putting the putting the puck in the net. And
Lane Lambert's with us and Lane you said you only
had a couple of rules for your team. One of
them was you better work your ass off. Right, Well,
we have a rule on this radio show. Whatever we
ask you, you have to answer on the program. Okay, yeah,
that's just kind of the only rules. So, I mean,
(32:38):
you mentioned scoring, and you're doing all this without Jared
McCann obviously, so what what can you tell people about
his status and when you expect him back.
Speaker 4 (32:48):
Well, yeah, look at Jared McCann and and and you
know Coppocco, two guys that have been out pretty much
the entire regular season for us, you know, and between
those two guys and Freddie Goudreau, who is now back
with us, you know, there goes sixty goals out of
your lineup from last year, and so you know, you
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have to find different ways to win. There's always there's
always a way to win hockey games. And I think
we've done a pretty decent job of doing that, or
at least put ourselves into position. Obviously, the you know,
the five overtime or shootout losses, I think three of
them have been an overtime. We've won three overtime games
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prior to the shootout, and then we've lost a couple
of shootout games. Those are critical points. Would love to
have us, you know, maybe that'd be a two instead
of a five in that call them and have three
more points in the standings. But certainly we're always in games.
I think we've played the league's most overtime games so
far this year. And saying all that, your question was
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about Jared McCann. He's on the ice, he's progressing nicely.
We can't wait to get him bet guys, And you
know he's right now. He's in more or less a
week to week mode. But the fact that he's back
on the ice, I think he should be progressing more
into a day to day mode here pretty soon.
Speaker 2 (34:15):
Got it?
Speaker 1 (34:15):
I love it, all right, man, Listen, great stuff. We're
excited to do this with you every week. We hope
you're as excited about it as we are. Go get
the Blackhawks tomorrow and we'll talk. We'll talk next week.
Speaker 2 (34:26):
Coach, Thanks coaching, awesome guys, Thanks a lot, all right,
Leiea Lambert with us The Birthday Boy We're Gonna Break.
Speaker 1 (34:33):
Petros Papadaka is gonna join next, Curtesius, Sweet James coming
up on ninety three to three KJRFM
Go talk to Laye Lambert three forty five Petros at four.
Kevin Harlan's with us at five o'clock tonight, and then
because we had the cracking Red Wings game yesterday we
could not hear from Mario Bailey and Greg Lewis. They
will join us at six pm and talk about what
we saw against Purdue, what's coming up this weekend versus UCLA.
So a lot to get to Seahawks and Titans on Sunday. Obviously,
(00:24):
I don't think Harlan's seen the Titans yet this year
because I think, well, he may have seen him on tape,
he may have seen him against a better team.
Speaker 2 (00:33):
He may have seen him in the preseason.
Speaker 1 (00:34):
I have no idea he does the Packer games for
television for preseason. So, but you're right, I mean, it's
not very often that a premier broadcast guy like Kevin
Harlan is relegated to do in Tennessee Titan games.
Speaker 2 (00:48):
Man, he doesn't get the D game, No, that's the
F game.
Speaker 1 (00:51):
As a matter of fact, he will join us at
five and we'll talk about them.
Speaker 2 (00:54):
Where.
Speaker 1 (00:54):
You know, look, I mean you look at the now
with Peedix being out, and I don't know how much
this would have changed even if Michael was totally healthy,
And I'm super bummed for him, man. I mean, guys,
we got the two best years so far of Michael
Pennix's football life, not close in Washington. I mean, how
lucky are we that this guy stayed healthy for two
consecutive years. Remember the way he was playing at the
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end of the regular season when we all thought he
had a rib injury. He was going over to the
sideline there and sticking his head in the coms box
and the Apple Cup game and sniffing on something that
we thought was to get him through the game. Remember
all that, Remember all those videos we would see on
social media, and then all of a sudden, boom, the
guy goes to Vegas against Oregon the next week, looks great,
(01:36):
and then takes a month off and looks incredible against Texas.
So maybe he was dealing with some kind of rib
injury at the end of the year. But for this
guy to stay healthy in the two years that we
had him here in Seattle, how don't you use this
term very often? Because I just don't talk like this
at all. It's a blessing, It's.
Speaker 2 (01:55):
An absolute blessing, tech blessed, that's what you're saying. It's
an absolute blessing for Husky fan. And again, I don't
ever talk like that at all.
Speaker 1 (02:03):
I don't even use that word on social media unless
I'm being sarcastic hashtag blushed. But to get this guy
for two years and to not have any major injuries
when that's all he's dealt with his entire career is unbelievable.
Speaker 2 (02:16):
Yeah, it really is.
Speaker 3 (02:17):
And I'm really anxious to see what type NFL quarterback
he is going to be. I thought he would be
a very good quarterback. I still think he's gonna be
a very good quarterback. I don't know if the head
coach quarterback fit is very good in Atlanta right now.
So I think Michael Pennix is sufferings through some of
those growing pains that young quarterbacks have when they have
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defensive head coaches that really don't connect with the quarterback.
And you know, still, he's got a three to one
touchdown interception ratio this year, so it's not like he's
been horrible when he's been in there.
Speaker 1 (02:48):
Well, their offensive coordinator Zach Robinson, and I agree with
you on the whole defensive minded coach quarterback thing that
if you're gonna have a defensive minded head coach, you
better be damn elite on defense. Number one, or that's
the point, right, and then number two, you better hire
a coordinator who knows what he's doing. And I'll tell
you what I might consider doing if I were Raheem
Morris as, I might consider go out getting Ryan Grubb
(03:10):
to work with Michael Penix again, stick him in there
in Atlanta.
Speaker 2 (03:13):
I mean, I'm not saying he's not enjoying Alabama job.
Speaker 1 (03:17):
I think the NFL is always what people strive for, right,
especially in that business. Would I would think if you're
a coordinator in the NFL, we can talk to Mike
about this because there's I think you agree, not a
lot of hot candidates right now in the NFL like
there was four or five years ago. Ryan Grubb goes
to Atlanta and Michael Pennock stays health and he blows
up in a couple of years, he's going to be
(03:38):
a candidate for a job. That's just the way this
WORRI mean, look at Clint kubiac well, right, and you
kidding me?
Speaker 3 (03:43):
And Ryan Grubb also has the persona of a head coach,
totally right with some of our other coordinators in this town,
both of the U dub and the Seahawks do not
have well.
Speaker 1 (03:53):
I mean, I would just compare him to Kubiak's personality.
I'd compare him to Steve Belichick and Brandan Carrer's personality
when those guys were here in Seattle. I know Steve's
a defensive guy, but I mean, you know me, I'm
sitting there at those press conferences with Carol and Belichick
a year ago, and I was this close to just
asking both of them, why.
Speaker 2 (04:11):
Are you here?
Speaker 4 (04:13):
Like?
Speaker 2 (04:13):
What are you doing here?
Speaker 4 (04:14):
Right?
Speaker 1 (04:14):
How about not why are you in Seattle? But why
are you having this press conference? How about our guy
proud to be your bush?
Speaker 2 (04:21):
Totally? Of course? Yeah, it did not exactly help you,
got it, coach?
Speaker 1 (04:24):
You gotta be a CEO, right, All right, let's get
to it. Mike Florio joining us right now.
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Speaker 6 (05:25):
I'm doing great today?
Speaker 7 (05:26):
How are you?
Speaker 2 (05:26):
But we are good.
Speaker 1 (05:28):
Dick and I were just talking about this on the
air before you showed up. The Michael Pennocks injury with
his ACL obviously hits home for us. He was here
for two years. He was a Husky legend, went to
the National championship beat Oregon three times, so we're all
super bummed about Mike. And then both of us kind
of agree that, you know, when he's healthy, he might
need better coaching, and I just tossed out, hey, maybe
Rahie Morris goes to Ryan Grubb and says, you want
(05:49):
to reunite with Michael and be his coordinator in Atlanta
next year. And then Dick asked, what's a better job man,
the offensive coordinator for Alabama or the offensive coordinator of
a team like the Atlanta Falcons.
Speaker 6 (06:00):
What do you think You're assuming that Raheem Morris will
e can be there to make that decision. I think
that between the misguided decision to give Kirk Cousins ninety
million over two years with a ten million guaranteed, and
the next year followed by the decision to draft Michael Pennix,
neither has worked out for the Falcons. I'd be surprised
if Arthur Blank, the owner of the team, doesn't make
(06:21):
some major changes and has some real accountability for this
disastrous handling and the quarterback position.
Speaker 2 (06:28):
There's no question that Rahee Morris has got to be
on the hot seat.
Speaker 3 (06:32):
Mike Softy and I are both in agreement after watching
a Seahawks team go to Los Angeles and be a
sixty yard field goal away from stealing a win despite
four interceptions from their quarterback, we both feel better about
this team's chances going forward than we did even before
the game, despite the loss.
Speaker 2 (06:47):
Would you agree with that?
Speaker 6 (06:50):
Well, I think it shows that the Seahawks are legitimate.
It was a lost opportunity. There's a rematch coming up
on a Thursday night in a few weeks. That becomes
critical now because if you get swept by the Rams,
they have essentially a two game lead over you actually
go to three games. Everything else hold as it currently is.
So they've got to beat the Rams, and they've got
to otherwise take care of business in the division to
(07:10):
try to win it. But yeah, the Seahawks glass half full.
They belong glass half empty. They squaddered an opportunity to
steal a game from the Rams that would have made
everyone say, hey, the Seahawks are one of the best
teams in the NFL, and they still are. Right there's
still number six in the power rankings. They didn't move.
Not the power rankings mean anything, but they're one of
the best teams in the NFL right now, and they're
(07:31):
squarely in the window to be a problem when the
postseason rolls around. The question is the next time Sam
Darnold has a big game, is he going to go
cherot into pumpkin or is he going to keep doing
the things he does in the games that aren't as consequential.
That's the key.
Speaker 1 (07:47):
Yeah, and that's a topic here in Seattle, Mike Right,
I mean, it really is. You know, I think everyone,
I think agrees that going from Gina him was the
right call. But there's a lot there's a lot of
people out there that just wonder if this guy can
hack it when the lights are brightest. And it sounds
like you agree that that's a that's fair analysis.
Speaker 6 (08:07):
Well, look, that's what separates good from great. You have
moments to come along very infrequently. What do you do
with those moments when the chance is there to win
a big game? And I was more troubled by Week eighteen.
It's a troit than I was the playoff loss to
the Rams, because that was a total team failure. The
loss at a troit if Donald isn't putting a little
(08:29):
too much air on the balls because the moment was
a little too big. They win that game and they're
the number one seed, and who knows what happens the
rest of the way. So yeah, it's fair. It's a
fair criticism, and it's the ceiling that he's either going
to break through or he's not. But you don't get
many opportunities to do it. And the problem with narratives
like that, the more it happens, the more pressure there
(08:49):
is the next time you have a chance to do it.
So when they have that next big game, whether it's
the one against the Rams or some other regular season game,
it's going to be the difference maker or even in
a playoffs, will he be able to shed the reputation
and change the narrative. There's going to be more pressure
on him until he does it.
Speaker 3 (09:06):
Mike, which team's better the twenty twenty four Chiefs that
won every close game but their analytics said that they
weren't very good, or the twenty twenty five Chiefs whose
analytics are actually better than last year but they lose
every close game.
Speaker 6 (09:20):
Well, you have to win, and they're in a mode
of desperation now that we haven't seen in the Patrick
Mahomes era. Their worst finish ever with Mahomes since he
became the starter in twenty eighteen. Is losing an overtime
of the AFC Championship. They're five and five now, they
may miss the playoffs. That weird play in Jacksonville where
Trevor Lawrence fell down twice and then got up and
(09:42):
scored the game winning touchdowns. That maybe the moment that
keeps them out, because it may come down to Jacksonville
and the chief Todd head to head for the seventh seed,
and the Chiefs lose out on that tiebreaker, and it's
something that's hard to even say, and it seems inconceivable,
but they may not make the playoffs. They've really got
some work to do down the stretch. Now, are they
capable of finding the das pedle? Do they have the
(10:03):
institutional experience to turn things around?
Speaker 5 (10:05):
Yes?
Speaker 6 (10:06):
Yes, of any team out there that would be five
and five and on the ropes. They've got the pieces,
and they've got the coaching, and they've got the leadership,
and they've got the quarterback to do it. They just
have to do it. And they've got the Colts and
then they've got the Cowboys on a short week and
the Cowboys at home. Now that they have a little swagger,
and I won't be surprised that they beat the Eagles
on Sunday. The way they're playing right now and what
they fell with that defense, these next two games are
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critical to the Chiefs.
Speaker 1 (10:29):
Do you think they would make any changes of significance
if they missed the playoffs. I mean, it's obviously logical
to say, well, just bring them all back and just
shelve it and whatever. But I guess Travis Kelce more
likely to quit retire as Andy Reid more likely to retire.
Speaker 2 (10:46):
Do you see any changes of significance if the Chiefs
missed the playoffs.
Speaker 6 (10:51):
I don't think Travis Kelsey's coming back in because I
thought he was going to retire if they'd won the
super Bowl, and right after the super Bowl on his podcast,
he was sounding like a guy who was coming to
turn with retirement. Something changed his mind and caused him
to decide to make one last run at a storybook ending.
I'm not sure he comes back. I'd be surprised if
he does. I don't see Reid retiring because look, as
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long as he has Patrick Mahomes, he's gonna have a chance.
We can treat this year as an aberration, But they're
gonna have to to do some work. They're gonna have
to address some deficiencies on both sides of the ball.
They're not where they need to be. Their defense isn't
what it was, their offense isn't what it was. Their
running game is not impressive, and I mean, frankly, they
they don't commit to the run, even when they have
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a great running back. You know, they were trying to
trade for Breese Hall from the Jets, and what would
have happened if the would have had them. They're gonna
run the ball twenty five times. That's just not what
they are. But I think they'll be changes, necessary changes.
But it's not like they're gonna trade Patrick Mahomes and
just completely start over. And I've seen some chatter like
maybe hold one out. Do you think he's gonna want
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out after one bad year. He's committed to that team,
he's committed to that town, and he'll be committed to
trying to fix everything and come back better than ever
next year. We'll just see if he can get the
help around him that he doesn't have right now.
Speaker 3 (12:04):
Mike, you wrote today that the Steelers have yet to
use DK in a way that justifies their investment. That
just sounds like a half a decade here in Seattle,
we've talked about that one thousand times. So now that
it's been two teams, it leads me to ask you
the question, is it the team's not using him right?
Or is DK just not the receiver everybody hopes he is.
Speaker 6 (12:24):
I just think it's the team's not using him right.
Look at what George Pickens has done in Dallas. The
Steelers never used him. He was frustrated and justifiably. The
skills are there. I've seen them in Pittsburgh and they
never were able to design an offense. And we've talked
about this before when DK was in Seattle. There are
things you can do to put the ball in an
elite athlete's hands. You can do jet sweeps and bubble
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screens and all those little tricks of the trade that
will allow you to get a guy who is man
among boys talented into a position where he can have
an impact on the game. So when the Steelers made
an unprecedent and move for them, they've never paid market
value to someone who previously didn't play for the team.
They have a hard time paying market value to people
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who do play for the team. That made me think
they're going to go out of their way to try
to justify this, and they just haven't. And so far,
Pickens is having a much better year in Dallas than
Metcalf is having with the Steels, and a lot of
it to do with the quarterback too. Aaron Rodgers has
to let it rip down the field. It can't be
a bunch of slamp passes a DK Metcalf, which is
what we see more often than not.
Speaker 2 (13:27):
What are the odds Micah Pete Carroll being one and
done in Vegas?
Speaker 6 (13:31):
Well, there's two sides to this. Do the Raiders want
to bring him back? And does he want to come back?
I think he may have thought that that team was
going to be a little better equipped to compete than
it is. Is he really want to come back and
have another bad season on the tail end of his career.
And the guy who really matters in Las Vegas is
Tom Brady because Mark Davis, the owner of the team,
has made it clear that he listens to Brady. One
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of the reasons Brady got a sweetheart deal for a
chunk of the franchise was because of his expertise, So
what Brady wants is what going to happen. And if
Brady wants to go in another direction at coach Mark
Data is going to listen to him and I, Hey,
they started off great. They somehow beat the Patriots in
Week one. It shows you how points week one of
the regular season is. But the Raiders have just been
a disaster and they may be the worst team in
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football right now, even though their record is one game
better than the Titans.
Speaker 1 (14:17):
Yeah, they were three and seven Dick in twenty twenty one.
That's the worst it got for him after ten games.
He's two and eight now. So this is unchartered territory.
Speaker 2 (14:25):
And they're just getting bludgeon too. They're not even close, Mike.
Speaker 3 (14:28):
This is an incredible stat Seven of the top eight
quarterback cap hits are five hundred or worse.
Speaker 2 (14:35):
Right now, does that mean anything? Can we read anything
into that?
Speaker 6 (14:40):
Well, look, this is one of the realities of you know,
you get a quarterback in the draft and you decide
that he's passed over the pats vale line, and so
we need to pay him. There are a lot of
quarterbacks out there making more money than they should, and
they need to be held to a higher standard when
they're not living up to the contract. But it does
put a burden on the rest of the team. And
even I know I'm a big proponent of guys getting
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every last dollar they can, it's it does have a consequence.
And look, I don't know if it's just a short
term thing. I don't know if it's a blip on
the radar screen, but it is something worth paying attention to.
And I wonder when you know the Rams did it well.
They didn't do it with Jared Goff. They did it
after they paid Jared Goff. They didn't do it in
twenty nineteen when they could. I'm waiting for a team
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who has a guy they took in the top ten
who is good enough, but they just say, no, you
know what, We're gonna do something else instead of giving
you fifty million a year, fifty five million a year,
whatever the market's going to be.
Speaker 1 (15:33):
As the cap keeps going up, Mike Florio with us, Mike,
before you go, I got to tell you, this spitting
thing in the NFL has got to stop.
Speaker 2 (15:39):
It's cowardly, it's disgusting.
Speaker 1 (15:42):
We saw Jalen Carter do it, and then we saw
Jamar Chase do it, and I'm wondering if one game
is enough, man, I mean, is one game enough for
these guys that keep doing this crap?
Speaker 6 (15:52):
Well, you know, the president has changed before our eyes
this season. There had never been a true suspension until
this week. The Jalen Carter quote unquote suspension was an
ejection with a fine in the amount of a game
check that simulated a suspension. Right, this is the first
time a guy's been suspended. And I don't know what
the arguments that the appeal hearing were. I saw that
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Chase was going to argue I didn't spit because if
I would have spit, I would have spit in his faith.
I mean, some ridiculous logic like that. The argument should
have been there has never been a suspension for spitting.
You can't just change the precedent like that. But at
the end of the day, it's one hearing officer, Jordy Nelson,
who made the decision. He has full discretion to go
one way or the other. He made the decision to
uphold the suspension, so there can be no doubt going forward.
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And every team needs to explain it to every player.
Every agent needs to explain it to their clients. If
you spit on another player, you will be suspended and
you'll lose the compensation that goes along with it. And
for Tomorro's stath it ends up being over five hundred
thousand dollars.
Speaker 1 (16:52):
Yeah, that's not insignificant. All right, Mike, you're the best,
great stuff. We're talking a week see a man. All right,
but hold Mike Florial with us. We're going to break
factor fiction. We are clinging to a percentage points lead
in this contest. This is big, big day. We gotta
have your perform man on this one. Conferred a clutch performance.
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Speaker 1 (17:34):
First of all, Lane Lambert will join us. Belated birthday boy,
turned I believe sixty one. I think yesterday.
Speaker 2 (17:42):
God. The fact that I'm there in nine years from
now is insane.
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clinging as a radio show to a small percentage points
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lead for the overall championship in front of Chuck and Bucks.
Speaker 2 (18:34):
Let's not be stupid about this, Jackson. How dumb can
I be? Look at an injury report? Jackson?
Speaker 1 (18:38):
Hi, Let's put some effort into this one today, Pal,
all right? Was the one he picked a few weeks ago?
The like basically drew one out of a hat or something.
Speaker 3 (18:45):
What was it?
Speaker 4 (18:45):
They I don't know.
Speaker 3 (18:46):
I don't know what you just did one so ram
like your your rationale for it was? I was like
a month, imply Rammed.
Speaker 2 (18:53):
I'm going back through. I know, I'm not sure what
you're referring.
Speaker 1 (18:57):
Well, he won on the Hawks minus the points against
the Manders, he lost on the Colts, he lost on
the under in the Browns game.
Speaker 6 (19:05):
I know what this is.
Speaker 2 (19:06):
I think the game that you are referring to is
the Minnesota Rutgers game, the Dan Wilson game.
Speaker 9 (19:11):
Yes, it was in the middle of the Mariners playoff run,
and I'm like, you know what, We're back in the mirrors.
We're back in Dan Wilson. He's a Minnesota almama. You know,
sometimes the logic is sound.
Speaker 2 (19:20):
You never know.
Speaker 1 (19:20):
Sometimes throwing a dart at a wall and seeing if
you can hit a bullseye is the best approach.
Speaker 2 (19:24):
It's going to be fun and games as long as
we don't lose by one day for your struggling. So
we're gonna who to blame. Your fair share too. You
know who to blame if we do. You know who
to blame if we do.
Speaker 1 (19:33):
How Dune can I be look at an injury report Jackson.
So we'll get that coming up in a matter of
a Minute's going to see a lucky eagle. All right,
here's the deal. So I'm gonna just rip this off
directly from our friend Hugh Mellon. By the way, who
was on with it was Mark James MJ in the
Midday yesterday on the radio program. Hey, I sat this
lie and he's talking about Sam Donald and this impression
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that people have that Sam Donald doesn't show up for games, right,
because he made the point and it's a great line
that Don James told him, people only remember the big
games that you lost, not the big games that you won.
And I went back to last year because you brought
this up on the radio show as well. Do you
think thirteen and two Minnesota versus eleven and four green
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Bay was a big game for those two teams last year? Well,
Sam Donald in that game was twenty thirty three of
forty three for three seventy seven, three touchdowns and a
pick in a two point win twenty seven to twenty
five over green Bay. Going back to Week four at
lambeau Field, Sam Donald twenty of twenty eight two to
seventy five, three touchdowns and a pick. Are those not
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big games against a division rival? How come nobody's talking
about that? How come nobody's talking about those.
Speaker 2 (20:46):
Games already out?
Speaker 3 (20:47):
Because the last two that we saw, yeah, were the
two bad ones. I think that's why I don't necessarily
I mean to say that Don James says, we don't
remember the good.
Speaker 2 (20:56):
I remember a lot of good Don James wins that
we had talking about Hugh Mill.
Speaker 1 (21:00):
He's talking about a quarterback from a quarterbacks perspective, you know,
not not really from a dick and softy perspective that
you know, the people remember the quarterbacks. They will make
much of a bigger deal when you struggle versus when
you don't struggle.
Speaker 2 (21:13):
And look, I get it.
Speaker 1 (21:15):
I'm not stupid over here, well kind of stupid, but
I get why people are talking about Darnald like that
because it was back to back games. It was the
Lion game, and then it was the Ram game, and
then here we are. The biggest game he's played so
far this year was the Ram game. But the Tampa
Bay game was pretty big too, against a really good team,
and he went bananas in that game. You know, made
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a mistake or two, but they scored thirty three points
against Tampa Bay in a lot of ways because of him.
Speaker 2 (21:41):
So I'll just go back to what I Snoria Dick.
Speaker 1 (21:44):
I mean, it may bear out that Sam Darnold if
the Hawks make the playoffs, then they better Dan will
make the playoffs. They're gonna win three in a row,
by the way, and be ten and three. If they
make the playoffs and he struggles in that very first
game and they lose because the quarterback played, it's going
to be almost impossible at that point to fight this back.
Speaker 3 (22:04):
That's why I think those last two games against the
Rams and the forty nine Ers are so important. I
mean the forty nine Ers is almost the JV game
leading up to the varsity game, or it was the
only way around.
Speaker 6 (22:14):
Right.
Speaker 3 (22:14):
We've got the Rams first, yes, and I mean you've
got if you can get that Rams game in particular,
and then you can back it up with a win
against the Niners on the road, right then I think
a lot of this. Yes, people will still say, all right,
he's got to perform in the playoffs, but they're not
really going to have a leg to stand on if
Darnold is great against the Niners and the Rams to
end the season.
Speaker 1 (22:34):
Well, by the way, what I would do if fire
you a little betting advice is if you can do it,
I would parlay the next three games with Seahawk victories
and the under and every single game Titans, Vikings, Falcons.
That's Kirk Cousins, JJ McCarthy and cam Ward. That's who
you will see against the Seahawk defense. I'm not saying
bet it't huge. You know, a couple of bucks, ten bucks,
twenty bucks, whatever. See what it pays, might be paying
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for your entire Christmas budget. All right, let's get to it.
Factor fiction right now?
Speaker 2 (23:00):
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Speaker 1 (23:20):
All right, I look at the top of the standings
on Factor of Fiction, and I see Chuck Poull percentage
point sixty three point two percent. I see Dick Fane
in second place fifty seven point one percent. I see
Dave Softy mal Or third place fifty two point four percent,
and I see Jackson Felts second from the bottom in
front of Jessemin McIntyre thirty three point three percent.
Speaker 2 (23:42):
That costs. I mean, that's like you move out of
your house.
Speaker 9 (23:45):
I gave you guys the opportunity to send me out
and you didn't do it. So, but I think I
have one more games you want us to shoot you Jackson?
Speaker 1 (23:55):
Yet, when you're a horse, for God's sake, My point
is is that everything's a trend, right, and the trend is.
Speaker 2 (24:03):
You now being on the rise in the final month
or so of the year.
Speaker 1 (24:07):
They only got a couple weeks left of the contest, right,
did three more weeks? Is that right of the contest?
So I think you're gonna end with a bang. Yep,
you're gonna end with a huge boom.
Speaker 2 (24:16):
What do you got Wednesday, Jackson?
Speaker 6 (24:18):
Go for it.
Speaker 9 (24:18):
This is the game I'm most confident about in the
entire year. This is a football team who is pissed off. Okay,
they thought that they should have been in the College
Football Playoff.
Speaker 2 (24:28):
They said, we are going to be the twelve seed.
Speaker 3 (24:31):
We are in.
Speaker 2 (24:32):
We have had that good of a season.
Speaker 9 (24:33):
We've scored almost sixty points in three of the last
four games, dominant offensively, and yet they were left out.
Speaker 2 (24:41):
So now income the Washington.
Speaker 9 (24:43):
State Cougars, I tell you what, boys, James Madison University
is pissed off that they are not. And then you
should see the message boards, the fans, even the players,
they are thinking that right now, this is the biggest
slight that they are not in as the twelve seed.
They are now determined to go out and win this
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game again for the third time in the last four weeks,
by forty plus points.
Speaker 2 (25:09):
The line is.
Speaker 9 (25:10):
Thirteen and a half thirty. They just have to win
by two touchdowns. And it's a team that's dominating offensively.
They're having an incredible season. They all think they should
be the twelve seed. James Madison minus thirteen and a
half against the Cougs.
Speaker 1 (25:24):
Well, they played Louisville and got beat by fourteen earlier
in the year. Wait, outside of that, it's Liberty Georgia,
Southern Georgia State, Louisiana, Old Dominion, Texas State, Marshall and Appstate. Yeah,
Washington State's in that group. That's who's on their schedule,
and they've creamed everybody, all right, so we're given how
many points? Thirteen and a half? Thirteen and a half?
All right, I kind of like it, you know. I'm
not like a yeah, but I kind of like it.
(25:46):
I can already tell Dick hates it, but I like
it minus thirteen and a half. James Madison over the
Cougs and the Coug's are going there?
Speaker 4 (25:53):
Is that right?
Speaker 1 (25:53):
They're traveling to Virginia? Okay, so take James Madison. The
Dukes give the points against Wazoo factor fiction to four, nine,
four or five to one.
Speaker 2 (26:02):
Right now, Hey, Dick, do you like it?
Speaker 8 (26:04):
No?
Speaker 3 (26:05):
No, you know, for me, it's kind of like a
dish when you go to a restaurant I never been
to before and somebody else orders, oh, you gotta try
this right, and they bring it to the table and
you're like, oh, I don't know, man, and then you
take it.
Speaker 2 (26:18):
They're like try it and you take a bite, and
you're like, that's actually pretty good. That's actually pretty good, Jackson.
I kind of like that.
Speaker 3 (26:26):
We've written we've ridden the Cougars a lot this year,
and they've been pretty good to us.
Speaker 2 (26:30):
So now we're going against the court. Why not?
Speaker 1 (26:32):
All right, Well, we're gonna do it because it's done.
Can't take it back now, No take back a good
pick wazoo uh going to James Madison.
Speaker 2 (26:39):
We like the Dukes minus the points. Get your picks
in right now.
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Speaker 1 (27:30):
Lead all right, boys and girls, We're back on a beautiful,
all of a sudden, pretty decent Wednesday night right here
on ninety three three KJRFM and Dick, It's time to
welcome in a new star of the show. Baby how
about this every single Wednesday from here until the end
of time, which is the end of the cracking season.
Hopefully it'll in with the Stanley Cup Championship someday. The
head coach of the Kraken, he'll join us every week.
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Lane Lambert with us right now on the radio program. Coach,
How are you?
Speaker 3 (27:57):
Uh?
Speaker 4 (27:58):
Pretty good?
Speaker 7 (27:58):
Guys?
Speaker 4 (27:59):
Pretty good? Are you? Guys?
Speaker 2 (28:00):
Great?
Speaker 1 (28:01):
It's great to have you back on the radio show.
Appreciate you doing this and agreeing to do this on
a weekly basis. We'll see if you want to stick
with us in a couple of weeks, but for now,
I think it's all gravy. But hey, happy birthday and
the guys didn't get a win for you last night.
Who's getting traded because the guys couldn't get a win
for you on your birthday yesterday?
Speaker 4 (28:20):
Yeah, it shows you.
Speaker 6 (28:22):
It shows you what they think can be, doesn't it.
Speaker 3 (28:25):
What'd you do after the game? He can tell me
you at least got to go out and celebrate a birthday.
And I know you're not in the best mood after
a loss, but did you do something at least?
Speaker 4 (28:35):
No. We we got on a bus, went to the plane,
came to Chicago and here we are where we play
the Hawks tomorrow night. So business as usual. You know,
birthdays are I'm happy they're still coming, but they're not
they're not. Yeah, they're not something that I really make
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a big deal about.
Speaker 1 (28:56):
Well, i'll tell you what, man at our age, I
think doing. And then your birthday sounds pretty damn good
to be totally honest with you. Man, So happy birthday
again from everybody here. But let's let's talk about where
you guys are at overall. Right, first time the three
of us have had a chance to converse here on
the radio show first year in nine to five and
five after the first nineteen games of the year, give
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us a take, and what you think you have on
your hands.
Speaker 2 (29:22):
With these guys so far after the first few weeks
of the season.
Speaker 4 (29:27):
Well, I think there's you know, there's always things that
you feel like you can improve on, and we certainly,
you know, we certainly have those things, you know, I
think our guys and coming into training camp and the
first you know, like you say, the first almost quarter
of the season, you know, the guys have really embraced
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the the changes, the things that we're trying to do
as a team. In terms of how we want to
play and you know, how we want to be to
play against. And you know, they've done a really good
job so far of trying to embrace that and doing
doing their ultimate best. The one thing this team does
is it works and our guys compete. And that's the
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number one thing you know that I asked for coming
into training camp period, is you got to work and
you got to compete. Have we had a couple of
situations where we haven't liked our game, Yeah, we have,
but certainly, you know, there's it's not for a lack
of effort.
Speaker 3 (30:30):
So what does crack and hockey look like under Lane Lambert,
Because certainly it looks like you guys got a good vibe.
Speaker 2 (30:35):
You're just two points out in the in the Pacific
Division from the.
Speaker 3 (30:38):
Lead, and this was a team that largely is back
from last year that really struggled. So what are some
of those tenets that you're pushing in there? Obviously working
in the early going.
Speaker 4 (30:49):
Well, we you know, we felt and when I did
a little bit of a dive into the team, you
know in the past, this pass for me, I kind
of you know, like from day one, I said, we
moved forward. What everybody starts with a clean slate, you know,
all that stuff. But uh, you know, we felt like
we wanted to be better as a hockey team defending
(31:09):
and and not giving the other team uh so many
opportunities and and certainly cut our goals against down and
put our goaltenders in a better environment to have success.
And you know, that's that's step one, is we we've
we've kind of worked our way from our goaltender out
to try and build that you know, that identity and
(31:31):
that trust and then you know, from there and and
I've I've done this for quite a few quite a
few years in my career. You know. The the offense
piggys piggybacks off of that, and we do feel like
we've we've got a little ways to go in terms
of our offensive play, you know, and the stuff that
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we continue to work on, and we'll continue to work
on every day. But certainly, you know, I think our
team from an identity standpoint is, uh, you know, we're
hard to play against, and certainly, uh, through our work
ethic and through the fact that we can we can
defend well. Now we have to we have to find
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a ways to score more goals in certain situations.
Speaker 1 (32:16):
Yeah, no doubt right, that's the that's the big key
is putting the putting the puck in the net. And
Lane Lambert's with us and Lane you said you only
had a couple of rules for your team. One of
them was you better work your ass off. Right, Well,
we have a rule on this radio show. Whatever we
ask you, you have to answer on the program. Okay, yeah,
that's just kind of the only rules. So, I mean,
(32:38):
you mentioned scoring, and you're doing all this without Jared
McCann obviously, so what what can you tell people about
his status and when you expect him back.
Speaker 4 (32:48):
Well, yeah, look at Jared McCann and and and you
know Coppocco, two guys that have been out pretty much
the entire regular season for us, you know, and between
those two guys and Freddie Goudreau, who is now back
with us, you know, there goes sixty goals out of
your lineup from last year, and so you know, you
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have to find different ways to win. There's always there's
always a way to win hockey games. And I think
we've done a pretty decent job of doing that, or
at least put ourselves into position. Obviously, the you know,
the five overtime or shootout losses, I think three of
them have been an overtime. We've won three overtime games
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prior to the shootout, and then we've lost a couple
of shootout games. Those are critical points. Would love to
have us, you know, maybe that'd be a two instead
of a five in that call them and have three
more points in the standings. But certainly we're always in games.
I think we've played the league's most overtime games so
far this year. And saying all that, your question was
(33:54):
about Jared McCann. He's on the ice, he's progressing nicely.
We can't wait to get him bet guys, And you
know he's right now. He's in more or less a
week to week mode. But the fact that he's back
on the ice, I think he should be progressing more
into a day to day mode here pretty soon.
Speaker 2 (34:15):
Got it?
Speaker 1 (34:15):
I love it, all right, man, Listen, great stuff. We're
excited to do this with you every week. We hope
you're as excited about it as we are. Go get
the Blackhawks tomorrow and we'll talk. We'll talk next week.
Speaker 2 (34:26):
Coach, Thanks coaching, awesome guys, Thanks a lot, all right,
Leiea Lambert with us The Birthday Boy We're Gonna Break.
Speaker 1 (34:33):
Petros Papadaka is gonna join next, Curtesius, Sweet James coming
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