All Episodes

December 3, 2025 35 mins

In the first hour, Dave Softy Mahler and Dick Fain look ahead to the conversation with Jedd Fisch later today, talk to Mike Florio about all the top NFL stories, then Jackson shares a Fact or Fiction pick before Kraken Head Coach Lane Lambert joins the show.

See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Mark as Played
Transcript

Episode Transcript

Available transcripts are automatically generated. Complete accuracy is not guaranteed.
Speaker 1 (00:00):
Where we go, Jed did the fish will join us
coming up at six pm tonight? I mean, I just
think there's a lot of questions about the Husky football
team that frankly, I don't even know if they've been
answered or asked. You We got sighting day obviously today,
a big press conference over there at you Dub naturally
focusing on the class. So these wide receivers, Jordan Clay,

(00:21):
Tres Davis, Cody Green, the tackle Derek Coleman, Brusa the
edge rusher from Kennedy coming on board. So a really
good class on paper, no doubt for Jetfish. But what
about Denzel Boston? Is he back? What about Jacob Mantu?
What about Tarik Aluta Buddha linebacker? Are these guys back
next year?

Speaker 2 (00:40):
Is he back? Can we put that to bed?

Speaker 1 (00:43):
Is Jetfish going to be coaching these guys next season
without questions? So there's a lot of questions we got
to ask at six pm?

Speaker 3 (00:50):
Man, No, I certainly are.

Speaker 4 (00:52):
And I think now with you know, with those jobs
all filling up, and I think this recruiting class is just,
I mean really unprecedented, right, I Mean, as far as
I'm concerned, I have never heard of a higher recruiting class.
I'm even seeing twelve on the composite, So thirteen on
the two four seven, let's go at twelve. I'll take
twelve at twelve. Twelve twelve is a good number in Seattle.
I mean, just an outstanding job. It's just an outstanding

(01:15):
job by Jedfish. And there's no reason to think anything
other than the trajectory of this football program is heading
straight up. The only question is what's the ceiling? And
I think that's the only answer.

Speaker 3 (01:30):
We don't have.

Speaker 4 (01:30):
We saw a pretty damn high ceiling a couple of
years ago. They finished second in the country. Can they
get back to that type of ceiling with Jed Fish?

Speaker 2 (01:38):
I mean, I think they should.

Speaker 1 (01:40):
That should be the expectation at least right you know,
I don't think anything should change in the Big Ten.
I was talking to a buddy of mine last night
on the way home about the move of the Big Ten,
and he was asking, you know, was it a mistake
to go to the Big Ten? And I said, I
don't think so, but I can see why people would
maybe feel a little nervous about Washington's future and this
confer did they do the right thing? I still think

(02:02):
they did the right thing. They just have to adapt.
They got to recruit different players. I mean, Danny Sprinkle
has to recruit different players in the Big Ten for
basketball than he would if he were coaching in the
Pac twelve. It's a totally different league with a different
you know, approach to the game, a lot more violence,
a lot more physicality. I mean, it's just it kind
of drives me nuts a little bit, Nick, and you

(02:22):
and I have talked about this before that in basketball
and in football, it always seems like the team that
plays the tougher brand of football or basketball is the
one that's able to force the issue for whatever reason,
Right like the high fly and acrobatics of the Pac
twelve on the basketball court and the high fly and
acrobatics of the Pac twelve on the football field, throwing

(02:44):
up forty five to fifty points a game that that
for whatever reason, it's just not gonna translate. It's not
gonna work in the Big Ten. They're gonna slow it down,
they're gonna grind things out, they're gonna punch you in
the face, they're gonna batter you and bruise you.

Speaker 2 (02:56):
And you can't have both.

Speaker 1 (02:58):
So I think Jed Fish and Danny's sprinkler, and not
that they didn't know this, by the way, because Danny
said this to us before Big Ten play even began.
He said, every game is going to be a freaking battle.
He said, he wants practices to be like a war
for God's sake. So I think both those guys are
finding out and they're remembering that they've got to have
a different type of player to survive in this conference.

(03:20):
And I think the recruiting classes are a reflection of that.

Speaker 4 (03:23):
Well, what's encouraging to me is what they've already done
on the defensive side of the ball. They are already
a top flight Now they're not Ohio State. Ohio State
is ungodly good defense, nobody is right, but they are
the next level of defensive team Michigan, Washington, Oregon. They
are at the next tier of defense already in the

(03:45):
Big Ten. Yeah, and that's not going anywhere, especially if
they get guys like Budda back.

Speaker 1 (03:48):
Well, look, they got to get those guys back. I mean,
I'll give you a stat you legol stats are for losers.

Speaker 2 (03:53):
There for you.

Speaker 1 (03:54):
How about the fact that there were only ten teams
in the country last year. And we'll bring this up
with Jed. Only ten teams in there that finished in
the top twenty three in scoring defense and scoring offense,
and Washington was one of them.

Speaker 2 (04:04):
Ten.

Speaker 1 (04:05):
Okay, the difference is the other nine all won ten games,
are more U dub was the only one of the
ten that did not win uh nine or ten or
eleven or twelve games. So they got to figure it out, man,
They got to find out a way and figure out
a way to not just beat those teams that we
talked about, like Ohio State, Michigan, Oregon, but in some
cases even just kind of hang with them, right, I

(04:27):
mean be able to function offensively. I mean, god, that
second half against the Michigan Wolverines was kind of a joke. Offensively,
I think we all agree with that. Defense was fine.
Defense was finding all the games they played. I mean
the hell, they only gave up twenty six points one time,
and that came against the Oregon Ducks in the final
game of the year.

Speaker 2 (04:45):
So Dick, I agree with you.

Speaker 1 (04:46):
I think the defenses at a really, really good spot
if they can get those two linebackers back.

Speaker 2 (04:51):
We'll talk to Jet about that.

Speaker 1 (04:53):
Manu and Buddha that would be a major coup to
get those two dudes back. I do wonder if Buddha
is going to be ready to play in September though,
because he ripped up his knee against the Cougars obviously,
so we'll see if he's back by September. But I
agree with you, man, until I see otherwise. This is
a team that currently is led by their defense.

Speaker 4 (05:12):
Well, their defense is keeping me in every game. And
you look at the teams that are coming here next year.
You don't have Ohio State coming here. Yes you have Indiana,
but you're not gonna have Indiana the same Indiana team
this year with maybe the Heisman Trophy winning quarterback. So
it's going to be a different Indiana team. And you've
got a Penn State team that is nowhere close to
the Penn State team of last year. They're a much
different program right now, still looking for a coach.

Speaker 1 (05:34):
Have you seen where the recruiting class is ranked, by
the way, it's like it's like one hundred and fiftieth
and there's only one hundred and twenty five teams in
Division One. All right, Mike Florio joining us right now?

Speaker 2 (05:44):
It's time for.

Speaker 5 (05:45):
A weekly conversation with Pro Football Talks Mike Florio, brought
to you by Simply Seattle.

Speaker 2 (05:50):
Tired of buying and repping the.

Speaker 5 (05:51):
Same old Seattle sports gear everyone else has. For the
best Storm, Seahawks, Mariners, Kraken, Rainiers, Sounders, and not to mention,
the largest Sonic's collection in the world, check out simply
Seattle dot com now with Mike Florio, here's Softian Dick.

Speaker 1 (06:06):
All right, here we go big thanks to our friends
at simply Seattle dot com.

Speaker 2 (06:10):
They're simply good campaign going on right now.

Speaker 1 (06:12):
They got hoodies for twenty five bucks. You buy one
for twenty five bucks in a portrait of the sales
will go to help the Fred Hutchinson Foundation.

Speaker 3 (06:20):
Man.

Speaker 1 (06:20):
So a great thing that Jamie and his wife are
doing over there at simply Seattle. Get your Christmas shopping
done online. Crack it all out right now use code
KJR fifteen for fifteen percent off anything at simply Seattle
dot com.

Speaker 2 (06:33):
Here he is the.

Speaker 1 (06:34):
King, the undisputed heavyweight champion, baby of the NFL media Corps,
Our friend ProFootball Talk dot com, the NFL and NBC.

Speaker 2 (06:44):
Mike Florio, how are you man?

Speaker 6 (06:46):
What is it too early to say Happy Holidays. Is
it too early?

Speaker 2 (06:49):
No, not at all.

Speaker 6 (06:51):
Okay, I'm not saying it. I'm just curious.

Speaker 1 (06:54):
No, I mean I start saying it after Halloween, to
be honest with you, because you're in November. Thanksgiving is
three and a half weeks away. It's the holiday season
at my house. So I say it's starting on November first.

Speaker 7 (07:06):
Yeah, a long time ago, the day after Thanksgiving was
the start of the Christmas season. But over time, you know,
the commercials start, the decorations go off. You got a
generation of kids who have grown up thinking it starts
November one, So what the hell. It's the time of
the year where everybody in theory is a little bit
nicer for the most part, most.

Speaker 6 (07:25):
People with exceptions.

Speaker 7 (07:27):
Yeah, and you know, it just feels different. It's a
good way to ease into the winter months, having two
months of something different than the usual rough and tumble reality.

Speaker 1 (07:38):
Well, speaking of different, I saw where the Browns designated
Deshaun Watson to come back from the pup list. Is
there a chance that we see him play at all
this season for the Browns?

Speaker 2 (07:51):
This is on my.

Speaker 6 (07:51):
List of things that I need to delve into.

Speaker 7 (07:53):
All that has happened is they've opened a twenty one
day practice window. We've got more and a half weeks
left in the regular season, the Browns have been eliminated
from playoff consideration. This may just be a chance for
him to come back and practice, to come back and
get on the field and spend three weeks and extra

(08:14):
body they're paying anyway without him being.

Speaker 6 (08:17):
Placed on the active roster.

Speaker 7 (08:18):
How it works is after twenty one days, they either
have to put him on the roster or put him
on season ending physically unable to perform less. I think
that's what they're going to do because there's an insurance
angle to his contract, and I think if he plays
this year, I think they jeopardize some of that insurance
money that helps defray the cap charge, the massive cap

(08:39):
charge that they still have to take for his contract.
They've managed to push a lot of these dollars into
future years and they get some cash back, they get
some cap space. But I think one of the keys
is him not playing this year, not being on the
active roster. So I expect he's going to practice for
three weeks and then they're going to shut him down
and he'll be back next year. They won't cut him

(09:00):
because of the cap consequences of cutting him. He'll be
on the roster next year, he'll finish out his contract,
and then he'll leave in free agency in twenty twenty
seven and we'll see if anybody wants to give him
an opportunity.

Speaker 4 (09:10):
Mike, there are ten teams on the top of the
Super Bowl odds board at plus seventeen hundred or better.

Speaker 3 (09:16):
That is unbelievable.

Speaker 4 (09:18):
But are there any teams in your mind that legitimately
look like Super Bowl championship teams that have the least
amount of red flags? Because it just seems like there's
a ton of teams with a lot of red flags.

Speaker 7 (09:30):
Yeah, and every time we think this team is the
best team in the league, something happens.

Speaker 8 (09:34):
The Rams.

Speaker 7 (09:35):
After punishing the Tampa Bay Buccaneers last Sunday Night, Week twelve,
they go to Carolina and they lose to the Panthers,
and that throws everything into flux. The Broncos, they are
the official team that plays with their food every week
but still finds a way to win, much like the
Chiefs of last year did.

Speaker 6 (09:51):
And then you got the Patriots. The thing that impressed
me about the Patriots on Monday night.

Speaker 7 (09:55):
They came out going into their bye week on the
tail end of Thanksgiving Week, and I I submit to
you that for many teams, the Thanksgiving holiday becomes a
problem because it's an important day of the work week
and it's not a full work day, and you have
to manage around that, and guys can lose their focus.
And I think might be able to challenge them to
go out there and send a message on Monday Night

(10:16):
about what they're going to be in the final four
games they come back and play the Bills and Ravens
back to back weeks before they have two winnable games
to wrap things up. The degree of violence that we
saw they hitting, the intensity.

Speaker 6 (10:30):
They have their.

Speaker 7 (10:30):
Foot on the gas pedal and they're not going to
slip their foot off. They are mashing it to the ground.
So I think the Patriots they'll be out of sight,
out of mind for a weekend because this is the
final bye week when they come back for Bill's Ravens,
keep an eye on what they bring to the table
because I think they recognize the one seed is within
reach and they're going to do everything they can to
go get it.

Speaker 1 (10:50):
Mike Aaron Rodgers kind of going after the Steelers wide receivers.
I think it was you that wrote on the website
yesterday that Mike Tomlin has not been asked for his
thoughts on what Aaron Rodgers said about the receiving corps.
How close to a disaster is this turning into in
Pittsburgh in your mind?

Speaker 7 (11:09):
Well, Rodgers met with reporters today and no one asked
him about it. When he comes out and says in
response to the last question posed to him in the
postgame press conference after they lost an embarrassing fashion to
the Bills twenty six to seven, he says, when asked
what can we do to get more consistency out of
the passing game, etc. He says, when there's a film session,
show up. When I tell you to run the right route,

(11:30):
run the right route, and he implied a lot of things.
And think about the storm that it created in Miami.
When to Atonga bay loa unsolicited called out teammates for
either being late to or not showing up for player
only film sessions. It was crying out for further questioning.
But this is what happens with a press conference. You
have a collection of reporters and they all wait for

(11:52):
somebody else to be the jerk that asks the tough
question and then none of them do it, and that
I think is collectively malpracticed. Individually, it's hard to blame
any one person because everybody's staying around with it for
someone else asked the question. But it's embarrassing for the
people who cover the Steelers that there was no follow
up about what should have been the story of the
week in Pittsburgh for Tomlin or for.

Speaker 4 (12:11):
Rogers if they don't win the division in Pittsburgh?

Speaker 3 (12:16):
Is he gone?

Speaker 4 (12:17):
As Tomlin gone? And if so, where do you think
the best fit for him would be.

Speaker 7 (12:22):
You know, I've lived in and around Pittsburgh my whole life.
I'm currently sitting one hundred miles south exactly of Akroschure Stadium,
And over the past ten years, fifteen years, anytime the
Steelers lose two or three games in a row, there's
a chunk of a fan base that starts agitating for
Tomlin to go, and it never gets any traction because
the Steelers.

Speaker 6 (12:42):
Aren't going to fire him.

Speaker 7 (12:43):
That's been the narrative the Steelers, of the team that's
had three coaches since nineteen sixty nine, it's their thing
it's that high school jacket that someone complimented them on
and they've never taken it off, like that is the
thing that makes them different from all the other teams.

Speaker 6 (12:55):
But this year feels different.

Speaker 7 (12:57):
And when you've got the fire Tomlin chant breaking out
at a Steelers game, when you've got booing during their
iconic renegade moment that the Seahawks, by the way, co
opted made their own back in Week two when the
Steelers lost the Seahawks thirty one to fourteen. I believe
the score was at home in their home opener. When
these kinds of things are happening, it feels like it's
just time for a change. And I think what happens

(13:19):
is because it's very rare that somebody stays this long
with one team. You get to a point where I
think you fall into a comfortable rut where you recognize,
you know what, why am I going to get myself
ulcers over this game or that game, or playoff positioning
or this, and that we're going to be good enough,
We're going to win enough games, we're going to cash
our checks, we're going to make our money, and we'll

(13:41):
come back and do it again next year.

Speaker 6 (13:42):
Yeah, And you know they're winning.

Speaker 7 (13:45):
Like every team says our goal is to win the
Super Bowl, the truth is the goal is to be
relevant in December when the stadiums could otherwise be empty,
when the kids are making their Christmas list and they
want jerseys of the local football team. You want to
be competitive every December. And the Steelers all that's a win.

Speaker 6 (14:01):
Whether you make it.

Speaker 7 (14:02):
To the playoffs, whether you win playoff games, that's just gravy.
But as long as you're relevant past Thanksgiving, your winning,
you're making money and you can stave off the mutiny.
What they need to be concerned about this year is
the mutiny. And think of it this way. If they
lose to the Ravens on Sunday in Baltimore, they have
a Monday night game against the Dolphins on the fifteenth
of December. If I'm a season ticket holder of the
Pittsburgh Steels, I'm not going out there and freezing my

(14:22):
ass off on December fifteenth to watch the Dolphins and
the Steelers.

Speaker 6 (14:27):
Ten days before Christmas. I got other things to do.

Speaker 7 (14:29):
I'll watch it at home and I'll finish up the
tree or do whatever else it is I need to do.
And I'm not going out there and.

Speaker 6 (14:36):
Subjecting myself to it.

Speaker 7 (14:37):
And if they have a bunch of no shows that night,
that's a red flag not for my Toma, but the
owner Art Rooney to second, Well, they.

Speaker 1 (14:44):
Haven't won a playoff game with him in almost ten years.
Twenty sixteen, I saw where Ben Roethlisberger and James Harrison
both came out what yesterday or today and said maybe
it's time for a change in Big Ben actually floating
the idea of him taking the Penn State job, which
for Penn State would be a coup kid me to
get Mike Tomlin to coach. Do you think he would
ever step down to go to Penn State? I mean,

(15:04):
you know him better than me. Is he that kind
of guy?

Speaker 7 (15:07):
Well, four years ago he was asked about rumors that
had bubbled up linking him to USC when that job
was open, and he said never say never, but never.
As it relates to coaching in college, I think that
the more likely outcome is he ends up with another
NFL team.

Speaker 6 (15:20):
Andy Reid is the name that gets mentioned the most often.

Speaker 7 (15:23):
You just get to a point where it's time for
a change, and whether it's a trade, it's not really
a trade. Because the coach ultimately controls what happens. Because
the coach doesn't want.

Speaker 6 (15:33):
To be traded.

Speaker 7 (15:34):
If he doesn't want to go to the team that's
trying to trade for him, it can't happen. And I
think at this point, when you consider nineteen years together,
the Steelers should just release him. It should be a
true mutual party. We hear mutual parting all the time,
and we know that it's baloney. The guy was fired,
but they're trying to save some faith. This should be
a true mutual party. He goes wherever he wants to go,
His next team isn't burdened by whatever draft picks they'd

(15:56):
have to give up to get him, and everybody moves
on and starts over. Now.

Speaker 6 (16:00):
I don't know who the Steelers would hire to be
their coach. That's the other side of it, And that's
the thing I've been saying.

Speaker 7 (16:04):
Anytime the fire Tomlin crowd comes out, who are you
going to replace him with? And are you prepared to
go see him do better with another team than his
replacement will do with Pittsburgh.

Speaker 4 (16:17):
Mike, I'll in where you began, and that was with
the Patriots. They've got the best record the Titans have
the worst record. Can you give us a little history
lesson and remind us why the Titans fired Mike Vrabel
despite four winning seasons and three playoff trips in his
six years there.

Speaker 7 (16:33):
Because dysfunctional teams do dysfunctional things, and in Nashville, Amy
Adams Strunk runs that team basically like a real life
game of Thrones, and it's whoever catches her attention, whoever
she thinks at any given moment is the person who
has all the answers, and she gravitates that this person
falls out of favor, this person takes over, that person
falls out of favor, another person takes over. And Mike Rabel,

(16:53):
I don't think cared to play that game.

Speaker 6 (16:57):
I really do think, and I.

Speaker 7 (16:58):
Think the seeds for his fire were planted when he
was put in the Patriots Hall of Fame October of
twenty twenty three, and he said some things that, by implication,
could be interpreted as not looking so great about his
current employer, and that may have been the thing that.

Speaker 6 (17:16):
Pushed her over the age. Look, Mike Grabel's smart.

Speaker 7 (17:18):
And he may have played her into firing him because
he's in a much better spot now. He's got a
young franchise quarterback. He's with one of the most stable
and respected organizations in football with a winning tradition, and
they had just enough bad years that he's not standing
in Bill Belichick's shadow. Drake May's not standing in Tom
Brady's shadow. The shadows dissipated through the back to back
four and thirteen seasons and no playoff wins since twenty eighteen.

(17:41):
It's a new day for a team that could have
slipped into multiple years of dysfunction. They have found the
lifeline and they're pulling themselves back onto the boat and
they're taken over.

Speaker 1 (17:51):
Hey, this is a really pleasant conversation. It must be
the holiday season and you being in a good mood
because of the holiday season.

Speaker 2 (17:58):
Buttholes, great stuff.

Speaker 4 (18:00):
Man.

Speaker 2 (18:00):
We'll talk in a week. Goodbye, see you.

Speaker 1 (18:03):
Mike Florio with us on the radio show Factor Fiction
brought to you by the Lucky Eagle, Lane Lambert Cracking
Coach three forty five on ninety three three kJ IRFM
from the R and.

Speaker 9 (18:16):
R Foundation Specialist Broadcast Studio. Now back to SOFTI and
Dick on your Home for the Huskies, Kraken and the
twelfth Man Sports Radio ninety three point three kJ R FM, and.

Speaker 1 (18:29):
We got Husky basketball coming up tonight, Big ten Big
Ten Caferine showdown between two dick longtime Big ten rivals
Ucla and Washington and Mick Cronin kidding me.

Speaker 8 (18:45):
Please tell me you're kidding me.

Speaker 2 (18:47):
At eight o'clock tonight. Sorry times.

Speaker 3 (18:49):
Has Mick Cronan seen the space needle this year?

Speaker 10 (18:52):
Uh?

Speaker 2 (18:53):
That's good question. Somebody should ask him that.

Speaker 1 (18:55):
We've seen the Eiffel Tower, We've seen the Statue of
Liberty twice. I think Petros does a show with him,
by the way, we should ask him about that when
he comes on with that. Remind me to ask him
at four o'clock, by the way, about the crowning thing
on the air.

Speaker 4 (19:08):
Yeah, they're playing two games here, They're playing Washington and
then they're playing gun Zag in a week and a half.

Speaker 3 (19:14):
Well, they're gonna see the space needle twice.

Speaker 2 (19:16):
How come you, dub is?

Speaker 1 (19:18):
Why are they doing Ucla at home and then USC
on the road on Saturday? How come they're not doing
the home and home thing, or you know, two games
and then go down there. I personally think that if
we're going to do this whole big ten thing with
four teams from the West coast. I would love to
see in football, Washington plays Oregon, Ucla, USC every year. Right,

(19:38):
it's just kind of part of their deal, like Stanford
plays Notre Dame, USC plays Notre Dame whatever every year.
And then in basketball the same thing, right, U dub
has two games at USC, two games of Ucla in
two games with Oregon every single freaking year, and then
throwing a couple of games with the Coupes just for
good measure.

Speaker 3 (19:54):
And we only have that with Oregon. Is that correct?

Speaker 2 (19:56):
I believe so they got the Ducks twice.

Speaker 1 (19:59):
Yes, yes, yes, I mean Oregon is not very good,
by the way, in basketball.

Speaker 4 (20:05):
And Ucla is. Ucla is very beatable. They are very beatable.
Now they're less beatable by the Huskies. If we don't
have Steinbach, we're gonna have to see how healthy hell
healthy the basketball team is going into this game.

Speaker 3 (20:18):
But this is definitely a winnable game.

Speaker 4 (20:21):
And I think you don't wake up some Husky basketball
fans a little bit if they either watch the game
where they get up in the morning and they check
their phone, they're like, hey, we beat Ucla, that's.

Speaker 1 (20:29):
Right, they do They do play UCLA twice, by the way,
and us see it. They got the Bruins here tonight
and then down there in February, and then the Trojans
come here in March. But yeah, we got basketball tonight.
You know, one thing I was gonna talk to Florio about.
I just ran out of time. We might have to
have them on for an extra segment one of these days.
That would cost us an arm and a leg, by
the way, just like you know, to pull that off
for you kidd me if we went to Florio and said, hey,

(20:51):
can you do a full twenty minute segment with us?
Oh my god, do you have any idea the amount
of people we'd have to lay off at this radio
to pay that guy a full segment? Are you kidding me?
Jackson be the only one left if that was the case.
But I wanted to ask him about the Sam Darnold
thing and kind of what the perception is of him

(21:12):
right now.

Speaker 2 (21:13):
And then also I was going to get on him.

Speaker 1 (21:14):
A little bit about you know, our our our mutual
friend Paul Allen, right, the voice of the Minnesota Vikings.
If you missed Ernest Jones yesterday, we actually played Paul's
call of the pick six off of Brozemer for Ernest
Jones yesterday like that, and he loved it. But I
just wonder kind of how much crap the Vikings general manager,

(21:36):
what's Quescia doofo Mensa should be taken? Because he's put
him in a horrible position with their quarterback. And I understand,
you get JJ McCarthy banged up and you draft the
kid in the first round. You want to see what
he's all about. But my god, there's there's a team
in their division, in the Green Bay Packers that for
like a combined I mean, how many years did Jordan

(21:57):
Love sit behind Rogers? Was two or three?

Speaker 2 (22:00):
Okay maybe three?

Speaker 1 (22:01):
And then how many years did Rogers sit behind Farv
At least two? Right, So let's just say low end
combine four years in that franchise where they didn't give
a damn if they had a guy that they drafted
in the first round. Didn't care. So we got, you know,
a guy that's approven commodity. What are we stupid gonna
give this guy up? I mean, the more and more
I think about it, malpractice with the Vikings, did it is?

Speaker 4 (22:23):
I mean, we've been talking about it since since August.
I just don't understand. They were a fourteen win team
last year and the Seahawks have experience here with a
player like that. His name was Matt Hasselbeck, and Mike
Holmbron just kind of let Matt Hasselbeck sit in Green
Bay for a couple of years, and then he sat
for a half a season in Seattle and he just
kind of became a starter. These teams that rush starting

(22:46):
quarterbacks in, they'll work occasionally, I e.

Speaker 3 (22:49):
Drake May, but they don't work.

Speaker 4 (22:52):
They fail probably eight to ten times more than they work.
So you absolutely have to use that system where you
got a maybe he's not your guy forever, right, but
he's a veteran. You can win nine ish games with
him for a couple of years and then get your
young guy ready to be the dude.

Speaker 1 (23:10):
I just think you know you signed Darnold if you're
a Viking fan to like the same deal the Hawks
game in three years, and then you worry about year
three of that deal. In year three and just you know,
worry about what you got now. What you got now
is a pretty damn good quarterback. And now you got
Jack Squat in Minnesota, you got Buppcus all right, speaking
of Buppkus, we have won bupkus on Factor Fiction the

(23:31):
last week and a half. We better get our act together, man.
Factor Fiction brought to you by the Lucky Eagle Casino.

Speaker 2 (23:36):
Where's that to go? Glad you're with us.

Speaker 11 (23:38):
It's your shot at our weekly thousand bucks and the
ten thousand dollars grand prize. It's Fact Door Fiction, probably
presented by Lucky Eagle Casino and hotel where every Day
Feels Lucky. Fact Door Fiction is on Sports Radio ninety
three point three kJ R.

Speaker 1 (23:57):
All right, are we doing the whole pick the opposite
of the morning show deal? We're not doing that yet.

Speaker 2 (24:01):
I don't think. Well, I don't thin we're gonna do
that anymore.

Speaker 3 (24:03):
No, it was it was an interesting call they made
this morning.

Speaker 2 (24:06):
Yeah, I took the Hawks.

Speaker 3 (24:08):
I don't mind the other side of it.

Speaker 6 (24:09):
All.

Speaker 3 (24:09):
Well, it's your pick.

Speaker 8 (24:11):
No.

Speaker 2 (24:11):
Wednesday, Jackson's Day. We got to have a big week.

Speaker 5 (24:14):
Man.

Speaker 1 (24:14):
We've had a couple of games so far. I took
the Commanders minus the points against Minnesota on Monday. I
took the Chiefs minus the points against the Texans yesterday
on the radio show.

Speaker 2 (24:25):
Both of those, by the way, the.

Speaker 1 (24:26):
Audience responding sixty nine percent approval fifty nine on both
those games. We'll see if Jackson can maybe engender a
little more confidence from the audience.

Speaker 12 (24:35):
What do you got, Yeah, I'm not going in Lanta.
I think Kirk Cousin's gonna puke all over himself. Our
run defense is good, and there's no way I'm picking
the Falcons.

Speaker 3 (24:44):
Like a little Bejon in your life there.

Speaker 12 (24:45):
Jackson, I just I think this is gonna stop him
this week. But I've loved the game all week and
I thought for sure this was going to be gone.
Speaking of puking all over himself, I think Caleb Williams
is about to puke all over himself. We picked the
Eagles last week and that didn't work. But the Bears
are not going to finish as the number one seed

(25:07):
at some point. This magical weird run they're going on
is gonna end, and in less than thirty degree temperatures
in frigid Green Bay, I cannot see Caleb Williams having
a remotely decent day. Packers have a decent, pretty darn
good defense, So I'm gonna take the Packers minus six.
I think they win this game comfortably by maybe ten

(25:29):
plus points. So give me the Packers minus six at
home in frigid lambeau Field against the fraud.

Speaker 1 (25:35):
Bears six or six and a half. By the way,
I'm seeing six right here. Okay, that's fine, We'll take six.
Green Bay giving six against Chicago. I'm looking back, going
to two thousand and sixteen. Chicago has two wins against
Green Bay. Only one of them happened at Lambeau. They
won at Lambeau in two thousand and fifteen. They won

(25:57):
at Lambeau last year. I think was that away game, yes,
and like week what they've been brutal. Okay, so outside
of that game they've got I believe it's two wins
at lambeau Field since twenty ten.

Speaker 2 (26:12):
Terrible, terrible, jack.

Speaker 3 (26:15):
I love it.

Speaker 2 (26:15):
I love it.

Speaker 4 (26:18):
Jordan love you know, kind of came out of whatever
weird funk that he was in where he had one
hundred and seventy six yards or less than three straight games.
Last week he threw for two thirty four and four
touchdowns against Detroit.

Speaker 3 (26:30):
They looked solid.

Speaker 4 (26:31):
They look like a team that is becoming an NFC favorite,
like I thought they would be in the beginning of
the season. I picked the Green Bay Packers to go
to the Super Bowl. So I'm a believer in that
football team. And they've just had some weird hiccups the
bizarre loss to Cleveland at the beginning of the year,
they lost to Carolina by three points, but you know,
they've played very solid football on both both sides the

(26:54):
last month. I like him against CHICAGOI you're right, I
mean they're fraudulent. I mean, Chicago's a playoff team, but.

Speaker 2 (26:59):
They're not super Bowl. Yeah. I don't think they're frauds
though they're well.

Speaker 4 (27:03):
They're frauds if you want to consider them like one
seed super Bowl ten.

Speaker 2 (27:08):
That's that's what I mean. I don't think anybody is
assuming that. I mean, if you are, I think you're immortal.

Speaker 12 (27:13):
I think.

Speaker 2 (27:15):
That's that's dumb.

Speaker 1 (27:16):
That's toughly because this is a much better Bears team
than they've had, much better Bears team. I mean, give
beb Ben Johnson's gonna be in the running for the
Coach of the Year. Uh and he deserves it, right,
I mean, we thought they'd be better. We thought the
over on that what was it nine and a half?

Speaker 2 (27:30):
Is that what it was? Dick whatever?

Speaker 1 (27:31):
This year for the Bears play the over and they're
probably gonna get there. But they also got the Packers
twice in the final four games of the regular season.

Speaker 2 (27:38):
So I like it.

Speaker 1 (27:39):
Dick likes it, Jackson, I assume likes it because you
picked it. That may not be good news, by the way,
if all of us love it, by the way, for
this weekend, so we'll see. But if you like to
pick Packers minus the points against Chicago, text in fact
you hate it, text in fiction to four nine, four
to five one. All brought to you by the Lucky
Eagle Casino and Hotel where every day feels lucky. Crack

(27:59):
into my against the Oilers. We're going to break their
three game losing streak. The head coach Lane Lambert will
join coming up and then pet show us at four
on ninety three three KJRFM.

Speaker 9 (28:10):
From the R and R Foundation Specialist broadcast Studio. Now
back to SOFTI and Dick on your home for the Huskies,
Kraken and the twelfth Man Sports Radio ninety three point
three kJ r FL.

Speaker 1 (28:24):
Alright back here on a Wednesday, every week, a chance
to talk some hockey, A with the head coach of
the Seattle Crack and a boys they're going to snap
their three game losing streak tomorrow and Edmonton coming off
a little bit of fisticuffs over the weekend with the Oilers.
We'll see how physical this thing gets tomorrow in Canada
pregame five thirty, face off six pm. Right here on

(28:44):
ninety three three KJRFM and joining us right now. Usual
we'll visit every Wednesday three forty five. The head coach,
Lane Lambert with us on ninety three three KJRFM.

Speaker 2 (28:53):
Coach, how are.

Speaker 6 (28:53):
You goo ahead?

Speaker 10 (28:54):
How are you guys doing?

Speaker 2 (28:55):
Doing great? Doing great?

Speaker 4 (28:57):
You know this I found out this is the first
time in crack and history. Now cracking history hasn't been
that long, but the first time in crack and history, nonetheless,
that you guys have actually been in Seattle on Thanksgiving
Day without a game so you could enjoy some festivities.
And I understand you guys got together at the Stevenson
household with Chandler and his wife.

Speaker 2 (29:18):
How did that go?

Speaker 11 (29:20):
Well?

Speaker 10 (29:21):
They actually it was the players only.

Speaker 8 (29:22):
The last thing that guys want to do is see
me on Franksgiving Day.

Speaker 10 (29:28):
But but you know, kudos to Chadler and his wife
were having the entire team over. You know, and I
think that's a real good opportunity for our guys to
get together and bond.

Speaker 8 (29:40):
And and have the spouses with them and the girlfriends
and all the kids together.

Speaker 10 (29:45):
So really good on the on the Stevenson's for doing that,
and really happy about you know, being here in Seattle
and getting a day off on Thanksgiving. It doesn't usually
happen a lot. You know, my last probably Heaven Thanksgivings,
I've been traveling to another city so that I could

(30:06):
play on on the Friday, and so it was nice
to be home here.

Speaker 1 (30:09):
Coach, you and Chandler Stevenson have a long history, goes
back a while. You know him better than anybody here,
that's for sure. What's the story behind your relationship, man.

Speaker 10 (30:20):
Yeah, Chandler. Chandler grew up in Saskatoon. His parents and
uh and I are good friends. They were our neighbors
way back when. And you know when Chandler was probably uh,
you know, I don't know how old, but you know,
somewhere around four or five years old.

Speaker 6 (30:38):
Uh, he used to just.

Speaker 10 (30:39):
Be bombing around the neighborhood. We we hadn't had the
streets paved at that time, was a brand new neighborhood.
So he wore his uh, he wore his rubber boots
and he was a pile of mud every.

Speaker 2 (30:51):
Day into your house? Do you ever come in with
the my feet.

Speaker 10 (30:56):
One hundred percent? Why do you think I'm talking like that?
He used to come in, say down and asked me
what was what he could have to eat while he dragged.

Speaker 4 (31:03):
Mudd into That's beautiful, cracking head coach Lane Lambert joining us, Well,
you get something unusual this week? You got three practice
days in a row in between games, and in between
games against the same team and Edmonton. Do you do
anything differently when you got a long stretch right like that?
Does it revert back to more like a training camp atmosphere?

Speaker 2 (31:25):
You just preparing for the next game in Edmonton?

Speaker 12 (31:29):
Uh?

Speaker 8 (31:29):
You know what, it's a great question. I think it's
a little bit of both. For me.

Speaker 10 (31:32):
We've had such a heavy schedule here.

Speaker 8 (31:35):
You know, up until this point in time and certainly
through the month.

Speaker 10 (31:38):
Of November that we haven't had a lot of practice time.
So uh, you know, on one hand, you you worry
and you revert back to taking care of your own
game and you know, having some review and practicing some
different things that you need to work on for your team,
and then we'll we'll prepare a little bit for for
Edmonton here, uh, you know, and and and get ready

(32:00):
for that, you know, spend a little bit of time
doing that for the rematch. But there's certainly, uh, there's
certainly you know, adjustments and things that we would like
to see, uh made for the game tomorrow night.

Speaker 2 (32:15):
Coach back to back with the Oilers.

Speaker 1 (32:17):
We saw things get a little rough in the last game,
especially in the second and third period. Do you like
these back to backs, especially when you're going up against
a team that you just kind of got a little
a little physical with.

Speaker 10 (32:31):
Well, playing a team back to back is never a
bad thing.

Speaker 8 (32:34):
You know, the the emotions of the game and and
you know, the intensity level of the game have a
have a tendency to pick up and there's nothing wrong
with that.

Speaker 4 (32:44):
Cracking head coach Lane Lambert joining US coach the The
injury bug has just bit you guys all season long,
all the way back to training camp. You did get
Jared back, though, how does McCann look that he's had
a couple of games back.

Speaker 10 (32:59):
He's getting his feet under him a little a little
more each with each you know, Shift really to be
honest with you, and it was good to get him back.
He certainly provides us with an element of you know,
an element element of offense that we you know, that
we sometimes are searching for here.

Speaker 8 (33:17):
So it's good to get him back.

Speaker 10 (33:18):
And I feel like, you know, as he came back,
he hadn't played much. He was hurt through most of
the training camps, so he's just getting his feet under
him here.

Speaker 8 (33:27):
As we move forward.

Speaker 1 (33:28):
Lane Lambert with us right here on ninety three to
three kJ IR FM Weekly Visit with the Kraken coach
Jayden Schwartz going to be out for a little bit.
What's the prognosis on him and who do you see
stepping up in his absence?

Speaker 10 (33:42):
Well, I think you know, I've said it as soon
as Schwartz went out, I knew that was a big
loss for our hockey team because he offers and provides
us so much from a leadership standpoint, not only with
his game on the ice, but also you know, with
his presence off the ice. So you know, you're not
going to have one guy replace him necessarily. It's going

(34:03):
to have to be a group, and we you know,
we need some of our older players and some of
our leadership guys to continue doing what they've.

Speaker 8 (34:08):
Been doing all year long and and being those leaders
and stepping up and you know, taking some of the
some of the Schwartz load and spreading it around. So certainly,
you know, we we we will miss him. We don't
know a timeframe on that necessarily, but certainly he's a
big hole for our team.

Speaker 4 (34:27):
Talk about one of your youngsters, Berkeley Cat, and he
was a guy that you guys made the decision like, Nope,
we're not gonna leave him in the miners. We're gonna
we're gonna play him up here with the big club.
He's got you five assists, but he's still looking for
his first goal.

Speaker 2 (34:38):
How would you evaluate his progress thus far?

Speaker 8 (34:42):
I like his.

Speaker 2 (34:43):
Progress a lot.

Speaker 8 (34:43):
Actually, you know, he wants the puck. He's not afraid
to make place.

Speaker 10 (34:50):
And what I'm really impressed with Berkeley, to be honest with,
is his ability to learn the game away from the puck.

Speaker 8 (34:57):
Because at the end of the day, if he can't
play the game away from the can't play the game
without the puck, you're gonna have a hard time, you know,
staying in the league or playing the game.

Speaker 10 (35:06):
You you literally only have the puck on your stick if
you're a really top end player, you know, for.

Speaker 8 (35:11):
A minute or so of a sixty minute game.

Speaker 10 (35:14):
So what are you doing the other fifty nine minutes
or what are you doing the other twenty four minutes
that you're on the ice.

Speaker 8 (35:18):
And he's adapting well to those situations. He's adapting well
to the defensive side of the game. And I just
feel like, once he gets.

Speaker 10 (35:28):
The goal here, I think you know they're gonna come
in bunch us coach.

Speaker 1 (35:33):
Listen, man, appreciate this. Go get them on Thursday. Go
get back in the win Colum. And we're talking a
week man.

Speaker 8 (35:39):
No worry.

Speaker 1 (35:40):
Thank you so much, Lane Lambert, coach of the Crack,
and his weekly visit with us on the radio show
We're Gonna Break. Petros Papainaka is gonna join next on
ninety three to three KJRFM.

Dave 'Softy' Mahler and Dick Fain News

Advertise With Us

Popular Podcasts

Dateline NBC

Dateline NBC

Current and classic episodes, featuring compelling true-crime mysteries, powerful documentaries and in-depth investigations. Follow now to get the latest episodes of Dateline NBC completely free, or subscribe to Dateline Premium for ad-free listening and exclusive bonus content: DatelinePremium.com

Are You A Charlotte?

Are You A Charlotte?

In 1997, actress Kristin Davis’ life was forever changed when she took on the role of Charlotte York in Sex and the City. As we watched Carrie, Samantha, Miranda and Charlotte navigate relationships in NYC, the show helped push once unacceptable conversation topics out of the shadows and altered the narrative around women and sex. We all saw ourselves in them as they searched for fulfillment in life, sex and friendships. Now, Kristin Davis wants to connect with you, the fans, and share untold stories and all the behind the scenes. Together, with Kristin and special guests, what will begin with Sex and the City will evolve into talks about themes that are still so relevant today. "Are you a Charlotte?" is much more than just rewatching this beloved show, it brings the past and the present together as we talk with heart, humor and of course some optimism.

Stuff You Should Know

Stuff You Should Know

If you've ever wanted to know about champagne, satanism, the Stonewall Uprising, chaos theory, LSD, El Nino, true crime and Rosa Parks, then look no further. Josh and Chuck have you covered.

Music, radio and podcasts, all free. Listen online or download the iHeart App.

Connect

© 2025 iHeartMedia, Inc.