December 5, 2025 • 28 mins
In the second hour, Dick Fain and Hugh Millen listen and react to a conversation earlier this week with Huskies Head Coach Jedd Fisch, then dive deep into the Dawgs, Jedd’s play-calling against Oregon, Demond Williams’ year, and dynamics with paying players.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
All right, let's roll in the four o'clock our a
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lot to get to. We're going to switch our focus
from Husky or from Seahawks to the world.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
Of the Huskies.
Speaker 1 (00:06):
A couple of days ago, Softie and I had a
lengthy twenty four minute chat with the head coach of
the Washington Huskies, Jed Fish, to which Jackson has pared
down to the greatest hits. Got it down to about
ten minutes and hopefully we hit everything that the listeners
wanted us to hit. But we start this conversation with
Softie asking Jed flat out, I mean, how much money
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do you have.
Speaker 2 (00:30):
To work with for these players?
Speaker 3 (00:32):
Just a couple of weeks ago, I think you and
I were talking on a Monday or a Thursday that
you're not where you got to be with the nil budget.
How much of your daily grind is spent convincing people
to help get you where you need to be financially
to be on that level where you can recruit the
old fashioned way with a great sales job, but also
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have the war chest, as Dick talked about, to get
the players you're looking for and the players you have.
Speaker 4 (01:02):
Yeah, it certainly takes up a good amount of time
as we're continuing to try to, you know, create the
program that we want to create. You could see really
throughout the last two weeks, there's been a lot of
reports of programs, you know, trying to get to ten
million dollars out above above revenue share, you know, and
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most of these programs that we've heard about on Twitter,
and you know, that's what you're looking to do. And
I think that the top twenty five rosters next year
will probably cost somewhere between twenty to thirty million dollars.
And you know that those are going to be the
teams that are going to be competing the CFP annually.
And it's going to be our goal to be able
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to get our revenue share plus our community behind a
great third party program and be able to put ourselves
in position to have that type of process.
Speaker 3 (01:53):
Well, let me just let me just jump in then,
because you mentioned between twenty and thirty million. Where are
we at? I mean, I'll just ask you flat out,
are we spending on football?
Speaker 2 (02:01):
It's here.
Speaker 4 (02:02):
Yeah, We're gonna have to We're gonna have to find
a way to get to that number. We're gonna have
to find a way to get to you know, between
twenty and twenty five million dollars, and we're gonna work
really hard over the next you know, six months to
get there, and I think we can get there, and
I believe if we can get there, we'll be able
to put ourselves in a position that there won't be
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as big of a gap as there as there was
this season in terms of some of the some of
the teams and some of the rosters that we played.
I think we all can see the way the gaps work.
Some programs that we we had a big gap on
that we played our team a lot more than their team,
and you could see the scores, and there's other times
that you could see some of the programs that paid
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their guys a lot more than what we were able
to do, and you can see the scores. And we're
proud that all of our games that we didn't win
was the one score game in the fourth quarter for
all four games. We feel we're one quarter away, and
we feel like that quarter is a quarter of depth,
and we got to be able to pay for depth,
and that's gonna be the key for us to be
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able to get to that next spot.
Speaker 3 (03:08):
You mentioned Denzel Boston, he did walk for the Oregon game,
but he's got one more year if he wants it.
Speaker 2 (03:14):
Uh, you think Denzel's coming back next year?
Speaker 4 (03:19):
I don't know. You know, there's a lot of conversations
about it. There's a lot going on in his head.
There's a lot of people that are, you know, giving
him a lot of information. I'm a big believer that
you have to you have to make He has to
make that decision because I don't want to be in
a situation where he has to regret one way or
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the other who had supported one hundred percent of their way.
There's great arguments for both. You know, there's always opportunities
now that there never were before to come back, get
paid and give your chance and self a chance to
rise in the draft. And then there's other opportunities to say, hey,
I feel good where I'm at and it's time for
me to go. So We're gonna continue to have those
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conversations here, but I'm gonna, you know, leave it up
to him to make that final call. Certainly, I've had
a lot of players that have returned in my past,
and they've all benefited from that. But again, you know,
you just.
Speaker 2 (04:14):
Never know, no doubt Jed fish with us and Jeed
tell you what you know?
Speaker 3 (04:18):
Dick and I mentioned the other day we're gonna have
you on and the text line just blows up with
questions for you, right, I mean, we gotta have Ja,
we gotta have you come down here over the offseason
like he did last summer and sit in the studio
and just stare at the text line for about an hour.
All right, just see what people are asking, What the
questions they want to know, the answers they want to know.
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I can I pull a couple off the text line
from the audience for you here? Do you mind before
you take off? Is that all right?
Speaker 4 (04:46):
Sure? Go ahead?
Speaker 2 (04:47):
All right?
Speaker 3 (04:47):
So this one's for the two five three. Ask Jed
why he didn't run the ball more against Oregon. Mohammed
was the hot hand, and he took him out of
the game too early. What do you say to people
who have that take on the game with the Ducks?
Speaker 4 (05:02):
Yeah, I mean I think we ran it thirty three times.
We probably could have kept running some more. I think
there were some opportunities that you know, that we probably
could have given them the ball a few more times.
I also think that we had some great opportunities there
to hit out some passes that we didn't and then
we hit on some that we needed to. So the
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last seven plays of the game or five were passes
because we were down by twelve. Other than that, I
think we we ran the ball pretty decent. I love
the fact that we outgained them by sixty yards. It
tells me that we went from you know, a year
ago they outrushed us by over o one hundred yards.
A year ago they had eleven more first downs than
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we did this week. This year, we had one first
down more than they did, and we outgained them by
sixty So we're getting there. But yeah, we got to
keep running the ball and keep doing a great team
that can do both.
Speaker 2 (05:53):
Yeah, I love it.
Speaker 3 (05:54):
And this is from the eight oh eight area code.
I think that's Hawaii, Dick, if I'm not mistaken. We
got a lot of people to in from Hawaii.
Speaker 2 (06:01):
Softy.
Speaker 3 (06:01):
I'm considering buying season tickets for next year. I love
the group that's potentially coming back. Can you please ask
Jed if he can guarantee he'll be coaching Washington in
twenty twenty six.
Speaker 4 (06:13):
Respond to that, I will be coaching Washington in twenty
twenty six, he should buy his tickets. Okay, they should
buy their tickets. There was a there was a lot
of articles and a lot of rumors about me now
coaching Washington, but that those never came from me. And
I really one hundred percent to leave in this team.
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I believe in the jump that we made from year
one to year two, and I had zero interest in
seeing anything other than the jump we're gonna make from
year two to three. And it would be very nice
to one day have a ten year at a place
that people can look back on and say, Wow, that
was one hell of a run. So that's where I
see it.
Speaker 5 (06:53):
Good.
Speaker 1 (06:54):
Was that a distraction at all for your kids in
your locker room this year, all those articles you talked about.
Speaker 4 (07:01):
You know, I hope not, but I'm sure they were
at some point. You know, I'm sure at at some
point kids start thinking and talking their kids, they're you know,
everyone's talking a little bit about what's true, what's false,
what does it look like, what it doesn't. But in
the end, I thought that the last few weeks of
the season, our guys played some of our best games
of football against Purdue in Ucla, which were two games
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that the rumors were hot and heavy, and you know,
I look back at the Oregon game and I say,
you know, you look at our team and it's nineteen
to fourteen with eight minutes left in the game. A
year ago he lost by twenty eight points and it
wasn't even that close. So I felt like our team
has really taken a big stride of being able to
put distractions, you know, aside. And I thought, we came
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out ready to play this whole month of November, and
we're gonna do the same thing for the Bowl.
Speaker 3 (07:48):
Well before you go, jed to get to that point
you want to get to, and yeah, look, you know,
I think all of us see a bright future starting
obviously this offseason, you know, heading in the next year.
Speaker 2 (07:58):
But Demand the season and he had.
Speaker 3 (08:00):
I think if you were to have told people at
the start of the year that Demand would have the
year he had. Numbers wise, especially against the big boys,
right Ohio State, Michigan, Oregon.
Speaker 2 (08:10):
I think a lot of folks would have been disappointed.
Speaker 3 (08:12):
You know, twelve sacks, five picks, two touchdowns in those
games and you went oh and three. So how do
you assess from your perspective of the year that demand
just had.
Speaker 4 (08:22):
Yeah, I mean I talked to our team a little
bit about it, you know, and I said, you, guys,
when you look at last year, we were one hundred
and fourth in the country and scoring. This year we
were twenty third, We were one hundred and first and
third down this year we were seventh. We were seventy
fifth in the red zone this year of fourteen and
we were ninety seventh in touchdowns and this year a fifth.
So when you look at that type of jump, you
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got to look at a twelve game You got to
look at a twelve game schedule, just like we did
a year ago. When you look at games against some
of the teams that were the better teams, I would
say that, you know, statistically, it wasn't much different than
you know, a guy that might have been taking in
the first round against teams like Michigan and Ohio State.
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There's some really good defenses. I think Ohio State had
the record for the greatest defense in college football this year,
and I think they let up one hundred points or
less than one hundred points all season long. These guys
are elite, and we're working to become elite. But demon's
nineteen and when demon's twenty, he's going to be better
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than when he was nineteen. And I think that it's
easy to get so excited about the mom when we
score fifty and sixty and seventy points in games that
we forget about the challenge when you start playing teams
like Michigan, Oregon, Wisconsin in the snow rain, whatever, and
we get real disappointed in certain outcomes and we forget
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the fact that all we're going to do is get better.
And I believe that when you look at what he's
done overall, I thought he's had an elite year for
where he was as a true freshman. This was his
first year ever as a starter now as a true sophomore,
and he didn't red shirt when he got here. He
played right away, and we're his receivers were too true freshmen.
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He was playing with two true freshmen out of three.
He was playing with a true sophomore tight end. He
was playing with a true freshman at tackle, a true
sophomore running back when Jonah got hurt, and a true
you know, and really with no backup behind him, that
were the two true freshmen that were behind him. Both
got hurt. So you know, as I look at what
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we've done and how we've done it, I think that
he's done some great things. And I can't wait to
watch what Demand does next year when now you're playing
against those teams and you have a year of experience. Uh,
those teams are really really good on defense, and that's
been proven across the country.
Speaker 1 (10:48):
A lot to get to their great stuff from Jed
Fish hell of a job by the interviewers too, I thought, Jackson,
I mean, really really excellent job.
Speaker 2 (10:57):
Hugh, what jumped out there?
Speaker 1 (10:59):
I've got to few notes that I took re listening
to that again, what's the what first and foremost jumped
out to you?
Speaker 6 (11:07):
Well, I think that in my assessment, certainly, I'm not
anti Jed. I think that the path of where we're
going seems right. If you were going to bicycle from
Seattle to to Los Angeles, you're okay if you're if
you go by Portland, you're not okay if you're in Spokane.
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But just because you're at Portland doesn't mean you're getting
to LA. And I think they're saying there's some things
that were misleading that I think are essential to what
how they need to get to the next step to
keep on going the right path, He said, you gotta
look at the twelve game schedule. I think the way
I look at it, I say, in conference, if you
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take all the Power forward teams and say we're only
going to talk about their in conference games, got me.
Speaker 5 (11:57):
Because we don't care.
Speaker 6 (11:58):
About UC Davis, we don't care about Eastern Michigan, we
don't care about playing Chattanooga.
Speaker 2 (12:04):
They skew all the nuns.
Speaker 6 (12:05):
They skew all the numbers, and so last year they
So you take the sixty seven Power four teams and
then rank them defensively in terms of points allowed, Okay,
got me. Last year the Huskies played six teams that
were in the top five twenty five defensively. Okay, we're
focusing on the Husky offense now. This year they only
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played four. Last year, they played one team that was
in the bottom twenty five. This year they played five,
which were all five of their big ten wins. And
in fact, they weren't just bottom twenty five, they were
bottom twenty out of sixty seven. So if you just
again go conference play against those good teams, you went
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in scoring. I'm going to use the four stats that
he cited in scoring, you went from thirty eight to
you fell to sixtieth. In third down convert you went
from thirty first best you fell the fiftieth. Red zone
you went from forty first vers you fell to forty eighth.
And touchdowns you went from forty two, fell to fifty sixth.
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As far as the just then, so there's no evidence
to me that in a material sense that they improved
offense from offensively certainly defensively. In fact, his hire of
the defensive coordinator may have been his best single act
of coaching. So we're just talking about the offense. But
he's the head coach and he's the play caller. If
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you then go again focusing on just conference play, that
the not twenty five teams, Huskies averaged forty point two points,
that's fourth out of sixty seven. But against the top
twenty five they they felled a nine point two They
went from fourth to sixty fourth first, and the drop
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of thirty one points is second mode out of sixty
seven teams. Okay, the average drop is nine point one points.
The Huskies fell third, drop thirty one points. When the
difference between the bad teams and the good team yards
per game, they four hund seventy yards a game in
conference against the not top twenty five, that's seventh out
of sixty seven. But against the top twenty five they
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ranked sixtieth. So their drop of two hundred and sixteen
yards a game was the second biggest drop out of
sixty seven teams. The average drop is sixty six yards.
They dropped two hundred and sixteen yards. Say similar for
and then when you go non conference, they they had
the biggest drop, uh in all of Power four teams,
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biggest drop in points per game, biggest drop in yards
per game going from the non conference to the good
teams in the conference. So I I just look and say,
that's their They they better not fool themselves to think
like when he starts talking about those numbers of how
they vaulted from last year, I hope that there's an
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all hands that deck. If you tell me that's happening
behind closed doors, then great.
Speaker 5 (15:14):
But that that's that's going to be the next step.
Speaker 6 (15:17):
And uh, and they have to identify where these problems are.
Speaker 1 (15:20):
Well, we'll have a macro discussion later on about you know,
his play calling as a whole. I will ask you
when we come back, though, if you liked his defense
of when he was asked about his play calling in
this particular game.
Speaker 2 (15:34):
We'll ask about that.
Speaker 1 (15:35):
I want to ask you also that you know he
had that comment there where he said, I hope to
have a tenure at a place where people can look
back and say that was a hell of a run.
I want to get Washington, I want to get your take.
I want to get your take on that as well.
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Speaker 6 (15:53):
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Speaker 2 (16:00):
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Speaker 6 (16:06):
Hugh is here.
Speaker 1 (16:07):
We are chatting about what we heard from the Jedfish
conversation that Softing and I had a couple of days ago.
If you've got some thoughts what jumped out at you
four nine four five to one, and the text line
will read them off in the next segment. I got
about three or four things I want to rifle with
you here in the next ten or twelve minutes. Here
you first of all, did you like his defense of
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the play calling in that particular game.
Speaker 6 (16:36):
Well, he went uh kind of macro for the whole game.
I thought, I think it was a decent defense. I
think your eyes kind of told you that that maybe
there was a little bit more with Adam Muhammad. But
you know, I think he's looking at the gross numbers,
how about you?
Speaker 2 (16:54):
Yeah, I think so. I think so. I think that it.
Speaker 1 (16:57):
For me, My only issue with the play calling in
that game was the first down play calling. At some
point when you see I mean, there's got to be
somebody telling there's got to be an analytics guy in
his ear. That's just like, listen, here's what has happened
on first down when you drop back in pass. Here
is what's happened on first down when you have run
the ball. And the numbers say seven and a half
yards per carry, and the numbers say two for eight
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with two interceptions and two sacks on those two things.
Speaker 5 (17:23):
I mean, and.
Speaker 1 (17:24):
That's that's what really kind of got me, because the
only reason I checked those numbers is because middle of
the third quarter, I'm just thinking, God, it doesn't seem
like we've done anything throwing the ball on first down,
and it seems like when we run, we're facing second
and three every single time. So I went and I
looked at the stats, and the stats bared out what
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my eyes told me as I was watching the football game.
So that's the only reason you know, I had an
issue with the play calling the Demon Williams. How about
his how about his analysis there of Demon Williams.
Speaker 6 (18:01):
Well, I think that demon similarly while the offense has
as we said, the drop between against the top twenty
five versus not top twenty five was the second most
in all of Power four, and the drop from the
top twenty five to the non conference was the most
in both points and yards. So you could say the
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offense as a whole had the biggest disparity between how
they played against good teams and bad teams. Literally that
statement can be proven with those facts and Demon Williams.
Demon went two things regarding a quarterback old school passer rating.
Demon's drop of seventy two point seven call it seventy
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three points is the number two drop in all Power
four conferences and his drop of EPA the new emerging
His drop of point seven is the number one drop
of all Power forward the different.
Speaker 5 (19:00):
Between the good teams and the bad teams.
Speaker 6 (19:01):
The combination of those uh is the he has the
biggest drop with those quarterback statistics, and when Jed said, well, uh,
you know, first rounders might do that. If you look
at ESPN and all the whether it's mel Kiper or whomever,
there's four quarterbacks who are thought to be first rounders,
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Fernando Mendoza, Dante Moore, Ty Simpson and Leonora's Sellers. You
average those and their EPA drop goes to point one,
two five. As I said, Demond has the biggest drop
of point seven. That's almost six times time, okay. And
then the passive the passer rating those guys when they
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play good teams versus the bad teams, there's drops three
point four points in the passerating that's almost nothing, whereas
Demond is dropping seventy three. So the combination and then
the pass yards are similar. We can literally summarize it
like this. The Huskies offense and their quarterback have the
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biggest drop in all of power for football in terms
of their of what they do against bottom twenty five
and non conference teams versus what they do against the
top twenty five defenses. And by the way, they had
an easier schedule, actually much easier schedule, at least in
that column the column of just points per game by
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the defense within Power four games.
Speaker 1 (20:33):
We here's what I want to do next week when
we have you on Monday and Tuesday. It's at some
point because.
Speaker 2 (20:38):
What you just told us was the what.
Speaker 1 (20:40):
Here's what Demand Williams does against good teams and bad teams.
We don't have time to break it down. Now we
want to break down the why. So we'll we'll spend
a good we'll spend a good chunk of time either
Monday or Tuesday. Yeah, of having you breaking down the
why of the what you just mentioned.
Speaker 6 (20:58):
And he's look, he's nineteen. I get that right, And
Jed says says, hey, you'll be twenty. And as I
want to embrace that concept. It's logical, passes the sniff test.
But we would have said after the Louisville game, hey
he's eighteen, wait.
Speaker 5 (21:14):
Till what we see as nineteen?
Speaker 6 (21:16):
Right, And so his next step is now, okay, that's great.
You put up big numbers against Ucdves and Wazoo and Purdue,
but now we need to have better games against the
better teams.
Speaker 1 (21:30):
Next point that I wanted to chat about from that interview,
he says, we can all see the way the gaps
work you can see the scores of the games where
we paid our players a lot more than the opponent.
You can see the scores of the games where our
opponents paid the players more than we did. To me,
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and I want to see if you got the same
vibe to me, that kind of devalues.
Speaker 2 (21:56):
The importance of coaching, doesn't it.
Speaker 1 (21:58):
I mean, it almost just seems like, Okay, if you
pay players X, you're gonna win this amount of games.
If you pay your players, why, you're going to win
this amount of games. But I don't think it really
works that way, does it?
Speaker 2 (22:10):
In college? For a sudden, it really doesn't work that way?
In baseball?
Speaker 1 (22:13):
Hell, the Mets don't make the playoffs and the Mariners
go to the Alcs with one hundred and fifty million
dollars less.
Speaker 6 (22:19):
Yeah, well, there's clearly correlations between more talented rosters and
winning championship courts, right, And and yet there are teams
that are better. Take Indiana, right, like, like you get
a really white hot coach like Signatty and he's done
it for two years now, Like that's that's no accident.
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What's happening there? And so I think on the one
I have mixed feelings because on the one hand, it
strikes me as a little bit of an excuse making
you know in advance. But on the other hand, it
strikes me as as just pragmatism, Like I think that's bad,
Like this is the reality of now football. Yes, that
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you got you as a fan base have to decide.
Speaker 5 (23:08):
How much this is.
Speaker 6 (23:09):
Important to you. And it's important to Ohio State in
the Michigan and h Oregon, and and of course Oregon
has a unique booster. But but then Wisconsin, they're a
top twenty five defense. You know, you'd like to think
moving forward, that's going to be an aberration that you
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that you have that bad of a game in Wisconsin
probably is comparably compensated.
Speaker 5 (23:34):
But at any event, I see your point.
Speaker 6 (23:37):
I think he's just he's just trying to deal in cold,
hard facts. It can be a little off putting, but
on the other hand, it's you know, it can be refreshing,
you know, because he's because he's speaking reality.
Speaker 1 (23:49):
Yeah, And I didn't have a b And that's why
I didn't have a big problem with I was just like, ah,
that's kind of interesting that that's how that's how he
phrased it, and then about his future. He's gonna be
at Washington next year, and then he says, I hope
to have a tenure at a place where people can
look back and say that was a hell of a run.
And that to me can be seen in two ways.
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I mean, you can say, you can say, hey, he
really wants to be somewhere for a long period of time.
He doesn't always want to be two years and gone,
two years and gone, two years and gone like he
has been his entire career. He wants to be someplace
for a long period of time. But I didn't hear
him say Seattle in that sentence. I didn't hear him
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say the University of Washington in that sentence, And I
think that would have been a perfect time for him
to add that point.
Speaker 4 (24:36):
I can't.
Speaker 6 (24:38):
It startles me how people can't think through and parse
the words that coaches say. And now, I granted they're
in a tough position, but back in what October or whatever,
that conference, he never expresses commitment, even though that was
the headline he said. He spoke for a minute and
forty two seconds, and he's basically, if you had to
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sum it up in three seconds, a minute and forty two,
you'd say Jetfish loves Washington or likes Washington, doesn't say
anything about commitment. And then in this interview you guys
had two days ago when he says the rumors didn't
come from me.
Speaker 5 (25:12):
Of course they didn't. They never have, they never have.
Speaker 6 (25:15):
It was Nick Saban, They never came from him, Jim,
you know Brian Kelly when he left, So you don't
expect the rumors to come. And then a tenure at
a place. Look, he's being cantid. He'd like there to
be a place where the ten years out of place.
I mean, you know, but he's not saying whether it's Washington,
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and so I just take nothing out of it.
Speaker 5 (25:41):
I think he's saying what he needs to say.
Speaker 6 (25:44):
But as far as taking any comfort about oh, the
rumors didn't come for me, Oh, that tells me nothing.
What you said six weeks ago tells me nothing. And
by the way, I don't hold that against you, because
coaches have to answer it the question how you did,
how you did?
Speaker 5 (25:58):
What I'm actually.
Speaker 6 (26:00):
Expressing is explain to me how you can glean anything
from those comments. I don't think you can, because because
the real question would be are you interested? In other jobs.
My son plays at Florida for the last two years,
got to know people there. I am not reporting anything
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because I don't know. But there are people, not just kids,
but adults in that program who are of the belief
that Jed had conversations with Florida and that shouldn't surprise anybody. Again,
I don't know enough to I'm not submitting any reports.
The real question for whether it's not Jed whether you
love Washington, it's if somebody offered you how many schools
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or teams in the NFL, right, But let's just restrict
it to school. How many schools would you leave Washington
for if if you had a better contract, even a
dollar more? And nobody can ask them that he shouldn't
answer it. Only he knows and the people that he's
close to if he's divulge that. But as far as
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gleaning anything out of comments, I think it's a fool's Errand.
Speaker 2 (27:11):
I like Jed Fish.
Speaker 1 (27:13):
I think he's leading the program in the right direction.
I certainly think this recruiting class is exceptional. And that's
you know, partially on him, partially on the finances that
the Huskies have, but really on him right now, and
I really have no super tangible complaints other than nitpicky
here on play calling in there, and we can go
into that a little bit more. It's if his coaching
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resume said Weaber State head coach for ten years and
Colorado head coach for seven years, and he then came
to the University of Washington, I'd be thrilled, and I
think we'd have a guy for a decade plus. He is,
but he is saddled by the history of his constantly
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jumping to other jobs. On one hand, I think that's
unfair because until until now, he's never had a top
twenty coaching job in America.
Speaker 2 (28:06):
But on the other hand.
Speaker 1 (28:07):
I think it is fair because there's been no concrete
indication that he or his family want to stay here
for a decade plus. And I think Husky Nation deserves
to have a football coach that wants to be in
Seattle for a decade plus.
Speaker 2 (28:20):
I thought we had it a couple of years ago
in Kaitlin de Boor.
Speaker 1 (28:22):
And maybe there's nobody that exists in America in today's
college football environment.
Speaker 2 (28:29):
Maybe there's no person.
Speaker 1 (28:31):
That exists that will stay at a place for ten
plus years.
Speaker 2 (28:36):
Maybe that's just the facts of the matter,
All right, let's roll in the four o'clock our a
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lot to get to. We're going to switch our focus
from Husky or from Seahawks to the world.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
Of the Huskies.
Speaker 1 (00:06):
A couple of days ago, Softie and I had a
lengthy twenty four minute chat with the head coach of
the Washington Huskies, Jed Fish, to which Jackson has pared
down to the greatest hits. Got it down to about
ten minutes and hopefully we hit everything that the listeners
wanted us to hit. But we start this conversation with
Softie asking Jed flat out, I mean, how much money
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do you have.
Speaker 2 (00:30):
To work with for these players?
Speaker 3 (00:32):
Just a couple of weeks ago, I think you and
I were talking on a Monday or a Thursday that
you're not where you got to be with the nil budget.
How much of your daily grind is spent convincing people
to help get you where you need to be financially
to be on that level where you can recruit the
old fashioned way with a great sales job, but also
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have the war chest, as Dick talked about, to get
the players you're looking for and the players you have.
Speaker 4 (01:02):
Yeah, it certainly takes up a good amount of time
as we're continuing to try to, you know, create the
program that we want to create. You could see really
throughout the last two weeks, there's been a lot of
reports of programs, you know, trying to get to ten
million dollars out above above revenue share, you know, and
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most of these programs that we've heard about on Twitter,
and you know, that's what you're looking to do. And
I think that the top twenty five rosters next year
will probably cost somewhere between twenty to thirty million dollars.
And you know that those are going to be the
teams that are going to be competing the CFP annually.
And it's going to be our goal to be able
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to get our revenue share plus our community behind a
great third party program and be able to put ourselves
in position to have that type of process.
Speaker 3 (01:53):
Well, let me just let me just jump in then,
because you mentioned between twenty and thirty million. Where are
we at? I mean, I'll just ask you flat out,
are we spending on football?
Speaker 2 (02:01):
It's here.
Speaker 4 (02:02):
Yeah, We're gonna have to We're gonna have to find
a way to get to that number. We're gonna have
to find a way to get to you know, between
twenty and twenty five million dollars, and we're gonna work
really hard over the next you know, six months to
get there, and I think we can get there, and
I believe if we can get there, we'll be able
to put ourselves in a position that there won't be
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as big of a gap as there as there was
this season in terms of some of the some of
the teams and some of the rosters that we played.
I think we all can see the way the gaps work.
Some programs that we we had a big gap on
that we played our team a lot more than their team,
and you could see the scores, and there's other times
that you could see some of the programs that paid
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their guys a lot more than what we were able
to do, and you can see the scores. And we're
proud that all of our games that we didn't win
was the one score game in the fourth quarter for
all four games. We feel we're one quarter away, and
we feel like that quarter is a quarter of depth,
and we got to be able to pay for depth,
and that's gonna be the key for us to be
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able to get to that next spot.
Speaker 3 (03:08):
You mentioned Denzel Boston, he did walk for the Oregon game,
but he's got one more year if he wants it.
Speaker 2 (03:14):
Uh, you think Denzel's coming back next year?
Speaker 4 (03:19):
I don't know. You know, there's a lot of conversations
about it. There's a lot going on in his head.
There's a lot of people that are, you know, giving
him a lot of information. I'm a big believer that
you have to you have to make He has to
make that decision because I don't want to be in
a situation where he has to regret one way or
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the other who had supported one hundred percent of their way.
There's great arguments for both. You know, there's always opportunities
now that there never were before to come back, get
paid and give your chance and self a chance to
rise in the draft. And then there's other opportunities to say, hey,
I feel good where I'm at and it's time for
me to go. So We're gonna continue to have those
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conversations here, but I'm gonna, you know, leave it up
to him to make that final call. Certainly, I've had
a lot of players that have returned in my past,
and they've all benefited from that. But again, you know,
you just.
Speaker 2 (04:14):
Never know, no doubt Jed fish with us and Jeed
tell you what you know?
Speaker 3 (04:18):
Dick and I mentioned the other day we're gonna have
you on and the text line just blows up with
questions for you, right, I mean, we gotta have Ja,
we gotta have you come down here over the offseason
like he did last summer and sit in the studio
and just stare at the text line for about an hour.
All right, just see what people are asking, What the
questions they want to know, the answers they want to know.
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I can I pull a couple off the text line
from the audience for you here? Do you mind before
you take off? Is that all right?
Speaker 4 (04:46):
Sure? Go ahead?
Speaker 2 (04:47):
All right?
Speaker 3 (04:47):
So this one's for the two five three. Ask Jed
why he didn't run the ball more against Oregon. Mohammed
was the hot hand, and he took him out of
the game too early. What do you say to people
who have that take on the game with the Ducks?
Speaker 4 (05:02):
Yeah, I mean I think we ran it thirty three times.
We probably could have kept running some more. I think
there were some opportunities that you know, that we probably
could have given them the ball a few more times.
I also think that we had some great opportunities there
to hit out some passes that we didn't and then
we hit on some that we needed to. So the
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last seven plays of the game or five were passes
because we were down by twelve. Other than that, I
think we we ran the ball pretty decent. I love
the fact that we outgained them by sixty yards. It
tells me that we went from you know, a year
ago they outrushed us by over o one hundred yards.
A year ago they had eleven more first downs than
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we did this week. This year, we had one first
down more than they did, and we outgained them by
sixty So we're getting there. But yeah, we got to
keep running the ball and keep doing a great team
that can do both.
Speaker 2 (05:53):
Yeah, I love it.
Speaker 3 (05:54):
And this is from the eight oh eight area code.
I think that's Hawaii, Dick, if I'm not mistaken. We
got a lot of people to in from Hawaii.
Speaker 2 (06:01):
Softy.
Speaker 3 (06:01):
I'm considering buying season tickets for next year. I love
the group that's potentially coming back. Can you please ask
Jed if he can guarantee he'll be coaching Washington in
twenty twenty six.
Speaker 4 (06:13):
Respond to that, I will be coaching Washington in twenty
twenty six, he should buy his tickets. Okay, they should
buy their tickets. There was a there was a lot
of articles and a lot of rumors about me now
coaching Washington, but that those never came from me. And
I really one hundred percent to leave in this team.
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I believe in the jump that we made from year
one to year two, and I had zero interest in
seeing anything other than the jump we're gonna make from
year two to three. And it would be very nice
to one day have a ten year at a place
that people can look back on and say, Wow, that
was one hell of a run. So that's where I
see it.
Speaker 5 (06:53):
Good.
Speaker 1 (06:54):
Was that a distraction at all for your kids in
your locker room this year, all those articles you talked about.
Speaker 4 (07:01):
You know, I hope not, but I'm sure they were
at some point. You know, I'm sure at at some
point kids start thinking and talking their kids, they're you know,
everyone's talking a little bit about what's true, what's false,
what does it look like, what it doesn't. But in
the end, I thought that the last few weeks of
the season, our guys played some of our best games
of football against Purdue in Ucla, which were two games
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that the rumors were hot and heavy, and you know,
I look back at the Oregon game and I say,
you know, you look at our team and it's nineteen
to fourteen with eight minutes left in the game. A
year ago he lost by twenty eight points and it
wasn't even that close. So I felt like our team
has really taken a big stride of being able to
put distractions, you know, aside. And I thought, we came
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out ready to play this whole month of November, and
we're gonna do the same thing for the Bowl.
Speaker 3 (07:48):
Well before you go, jed to get to that point
you want to get to, and yeah, look, you know,
I think all of us see a bright future starting
obviously this offseason, you know, heading in the next year.
Speaker 2 (07:58):
But Demand the season and he had.
Speaker 3 (08:00):
I think if you were to have told people at
the start of the year that Demand would have the
year he had. Numbers wise, especially against the big boys,
right Ohio State, Michigan, Oregon.
Speaker 2 (08:10):
I think a lot of folks would have been disappointed.
Speaker 3 (08:12):
You know, twelve sacks, five picks, two touchdowns in those
games and you went oh and three. So how do
you assess from your perspective of the year that demand
just had.
Speaker 4 (08:22):
Yeah, I mean I talked to our team a little
bit about it, you know, and I said, you, guys,
when you look at last year, we were one hundred
and fourth in the country and scoring. This year we
were twenty third, We were one hundred and first and
third down this year we were seventh. We were seventy
fifth in the red zone this year of fourteen and
we were ninety seventh in touchdowns and this year a fifth.
So when you look at that type of jump, you
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got to look at a twelve game You got to
look at a twelve game schedule, just like we did
a year ago. When you look at games against some
of the teams that were the better teams, I would
say that, you know, statistically, it wasn't much different than
you know, a guy that might have been taking in
the first round against teams like Michigan and Ohio State.
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There's some really good defenses. I think Ohio State had
the record for the greatest defense in college football this year,
and I think they let up one hundred points or
less than one hundred points all season long. These guys
are elite, and we're working to become elite. But demon's
nineteen and when demon's twenty, he's going to be better
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than when he was nineteen. And I think that it's
easy to get so excited about the mom when we
score fifty and sixty and seventy points in games that
we forget about the challenge when you start playing teams
like Michigan, Oregon, Wisconsin in the snow rain, whatever, and
we get real disappointed in certain outcomes and we forget
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the fact that all we're going to do is get better.
And I believe that when you look at what he's
done overall, I thought he's had an elite year for
where he was as a true freshman. This was his
first year ever as a starter now as a true sophomore,
and he didn't red shirt when he got here. He
played right away, and we're his receivers were too true freshmen.
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He was playing with two true freshmen out of three.
He was playing with a true sophomore tight end. He
was playing with a true freshman at tackle, a true
sophomore running back when Jonah got hurt, and a true
you know, and really with no backup behind him, that
were the two true freshmen that were behind him. Both
got hurt. So you know, as I look at what
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we've done and how we've done it, I think that
he's done some great things. And I can't wait to
watch what Demand does next year when now you're playing
against those teams and you have a year of experience. Uh,
those teams are really really good on defense, and that's
been proven across the country.
Speaker 1 (10:48):
A lot to get to their great stuff from Jed
Fish hell of a job by the interviewers too, I thought, Jackson,
I mean, really really excellent job.
Speaker 2 (10:57):
Hugh, what jumped out there?
Speaker 1 (10:59):
I've got to few notes that I took re listening
to that again, what's the what first and foremost jumped
out to you?
Speaker 6 (11:07):
Well, I think that in my assessment, certainly, I'm not
anti Jed. I think that the path of where we're
going seems right. If you were going to bicycle from
Seattle to to Los Angeles, you're okay if you're if
you go by Portland, you're not okay if you're in Spokane.
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But just because you're at Portland doesn't mean you're getting
to LA. And I think they're saying there's some things
that were misleading that I think are essential to what
how they need to get to the next step to
keep on going the right path, He said, you gotta
look at the twelve game schedule. I think the way
I look at it, I say, in conference, if you
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take all the Power forward teams and say we're only
going to talk about their in conference games, got me.
Speaker 5 (11:57):
Because we don't care.
Speaker 6 (11:58):
About UC Davis, we don't care about Eastern Michigan, we
don't care about playing Chattanooga.
Speaker 2 (12:04):
They skew all the nuns.
Speaker 6 (12:05):
They skew all the numbers, and so last year they
So you take the sixty seven Power four teams and
then rank them defensively in terms of points allowed, Okay,
got me. Last year the Huskies played six teams that
were in the top five twenty five defensively. Okay, we're
focusing on the Husky offense now. This year they only
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played four. Last year, they played one team that was
in the bottom twenty five. This year they played five,
which were all five of their big ten wins. And
in fact, they weren't just bottom twenty five, they were
bottom twenty out of sixty seven. So if you just
again go conference play against those good teams, you went
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in scoring. I'm going to use the four stats that
he cited in scoring, you went from thirty eight to
you fell to sixtieth. In third down convert you went
from thirty first best you fell the fiftieth. Red zone
you went from forty first vers you fell to forty eighth.
And touchdowns you went from forty two, fell to fifty sixth.
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As far as the just then, so there's no evidence
to me that in a material sense that they improved
offense from offensively certainly defensively. In fact, his hire of
the defensive coordinator may have been his best single act
of coaching. So we're just talking about the offense. But
he's the head coach and he's the play caller. If
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you then go again focusing on just conference play, that
the not twenty five teams, Huskies averaged forty point two points,
that's fourth out of sixty seven. But against the top
twenty five they they felled a nine point two They
went from fourth to sixty fourth first, and the drop
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of thirty one points is second mode out of sixty
seven teams. Okay, the average drop is nine point one points.
The Huskies fell third, drop thirty one points. When the
difference between the bad teams and the good team yards
per game, they four hund seventy yards a game in
conference against the not top twenty five, that's seventh out
of sixty seven. But against the top twenty five they
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ranked sixtieth. So their drop of two hundred and sixteen
yards a game was the second biggest drop out of
sixty seven teams. The average drop is sixty six yards.
They dropped two hundred and sixteen yards. Say similar for
and then when you go non conference, they they had
the biggest drop, uh in all of Power four teams,
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biggest drop in points per game, biggest drop in yards
per game going from the non conference to the good
teams in the conference. So I I just look and say,
that's their They they better not fool themselves to think
like when he starts talking about those numbers of how
they vaulted from last year, I hope that there's an
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all hands that deck. If you tell me that's happening
behind closed doors, then great.
Speaker 5 (15:14):
But that that's that's going to be the next step.
Speaker 6 (15:17):
And uh, and they have to identify where these problems are.
Speaker 1 (15:20):
Well, we'll have a macro discussion later on about you know,
his play calling as a whole. I will ask you
when we come back, though, if you liked his defense
of when he was asked about his play calling in
this particular game.
Speaker 2 (15:34):
We'll ask about that.
Speaker 1 (15:35):
I want to ask you also that you know he
had that comment there where he said, I hope to
have a tenure at a place where people can look
back and say that was a hell of a run.
I want to get Washington, I want to get your take.
I want to get your take on that as well.
Right after a timeout on ninety three point three KJRFM,
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Speaker 6 (15:53):
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Speaker 2 (16:00):
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Speaker 6 (16:06):
Hugh is here.
Speaker 1 (16:07):
We are chatting about what we heard from the Jedfish
conversation that Softing and I had a couple of days ago.
If you've got some thoughts what jumped out at you
four nine four five to one, and the text line
will read them off in the next segment. I got
about three or four things I want to rifle with
you here in the next ten or twelve minutes. Here
you first of all, did you like his defense of
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the play calling in that particular game.
Speaker 6 (16:36):
Well, he went uh kind of macro for the whole game.
I thought, I think it was a decent defense. I
think your eyes kind of told you that that maybe
there was a little bit more with Adam Muhammad. But
you know, I think he's looking at the gross numbers,
how about you?
Speaker 2 (16:54):
Yeah, I think so. I think so. I think that it.
Speaker 1 (16:57):
For me, My only issue with the play calling in
that game was the first down play calling. At some
point when you see I mean, there's got to be
somebody telling there's got to be an analytics guy in
his ear. That's just like, listen, here's what has happened
on first down when you drop back in pass. Here
is what's happened on first down when you have run
the ball. And the numbers say seven and a half
yards per carry, and the numbers say two for eight
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with two interceptions and two sacks on those two things.
Speaker 5 (17:23):
I mean, and.
Speaker 1 (17:24):
That's that's what really kind of got me, because the
only reason I checked those numbers is because middle of
the third quarter, I'm just thinking, God, it doesn't seem
like we've done anything throwing the ball on first down,
and it seems like when we run, we're facing second
and three every single time. So I went and I
looked at the stats, and the stats bared out what
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my eyes told me as I was watching the football game.
So that's the only reason you know, I had an
issue with the play calling the Demon Williams. How about
his how about his analysis there of Demon Williams.
Speaker 6 (18:01):
Well, I think that demon similarly while the offense has
as we said, the drop between against the top twenty
five versus not top twenty five was the second most
in all of Power four, and the drop from the
top twenty five to the non conference was the most
in both points and yards. So you could say the
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offense as a whole had the biggest disparity between how
they played against good teams and bad teams. Literally that
statement can be proven with those facts and Demon Williams.
Demon went two things regarding a quarterback old school passer rating.
Demon's drop of seventy two point seven call it seventy
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three points is the number two drop in all Power
four conferences and his drop of EPA the new emerging
His drop of point seven is the number one drop
of all Power forward the different.
Speaker 5 (19:00):
Between the good teams and the bad teams.
Speaker 6 (19:01):
The combination of those uh is the he has the
biggest drop with those quarterback statistics, and when Jed said, well, uh,
you know, first rounders might do that. If you look
at ESPN and all the whether it's mel Kiper or whomever,
there's four quarterbacks who are thought to be first rounders,
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Fernando Mendoza, Dante Moore, Ty Simpson and Leonora's Sellers. You
average those and their EPA drop goes to point one,
two five. As I said, Demond has the biggest drop
of point seven. That's almost six times time, okay. And
then the passive the passer rating those guys when they
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play good teams versus the bad teams, there's drops three
point four points in the passerating that's almost nothing, whereas
Demond is dropping seventy three. So the combination and then
the pass yards are similar. We can literally summarize it
like this. The Huskies offense and their quarterback have the
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biggest drop in all of power for football in terms
of their of what they do against bottom twenty five
and non conference teams versus what they do against the
top twenty five defenses. And by the way, they had
an easier schedule, actually much easier schedule, at least in
that column the column of just points per game by
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the defense within Power four games.
Speaker 1 (20:33):
We here's what I want to do next week when
we have you on Monday and Tuesday. It's at some
point because.
Speaker 2 (20:38):
What you just told us was the what.
Speaker 1 (20:40):
Here's what Demand Williams does against good teams and bad teams.
We don't have time to break it down. Now we
want to break down the why. So we'll we'll spend
a good we'll spend a good chunk of time either
Monday or Tuesday. Yeah, of having you breaking down the
why of the what you just mentioned.
Speaker 6 (20:58):
And he's look, he's nineteen. I get that right, And
Jed says says, hey, you'll be twenty. And as I
want to embrace that concept. It's logical, passes the sniff test.
But we would have said after the Louisville game, hey
he's eighteen, wait.
Speaker 5 (21:14):
Till what we see as nineteen?
Speaker 6 (21:16):
Right, And so his next step is now, okay, that's great.
You put up big numbers against Ucdves and Wazoo and Purdue,
but now we need to have better games against the
better teams.
Speaker 1 (21:30):
Next point that I wanted to chat about from that interview,
he says, we can all see the way the gaps
work you can see the scores of the games where
we paid our players a lot more than the opponent.
You can see the scores of the games where our
opponents paid the players more than we did. To me,
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and I want to see if you got the same
vibe to me, that kind of devalues.
Speaker 2 (21:56):
The importance of coaching, doesn't it.
Speaker 1 (21:58):
I mean, it almost just seems like, Okay, if you
pay players X, you're gonna win this amount of games.
If you pay your players, why, you're going to win
this amount of games. But I don't think it really
works that way, does it?
Speaker 2 (22:10):
In college? For a sudden, it really doesn't work that way?
In baseball?
Speaker 1 (22:13):
Hell, the Mets don't make the playoffs and the Mariners
go to the Alcs with one hundred and fifty million
dollars less.
Speaker 6 (22:19):
Yeah, well, there's clearly correlations between more talented rosters and
winning championship courts, right, And and yet there are teams
that are better. Take Indiana, right, like, like you get
a really white hot coach like Signatty and he's done
it for two years now, Like that's that's no accident.
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What's happening there? And so I think on the one
I have mixed feelings because on the one hand, it
strikes me as a little bit of an excuse making
you know in advance. But on the other hand, it
strikes me as as just pragmatism, Like I think that's bad,
Like this is the reality of now football. Yes, that
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you got you as a fan base have to decide.
Speaker 5 (23:08):
How much this is.
Speaker 6 (23:09):
Important to you. And it's important to Ohio State in
the Michigan and h Oregon, and and of course Oregon
has a unique booster. But but then Wisconsin, they're a
top twenty five defense. You know, you'd like to think
moving forward, that's going to be an aberration that you
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that you have that bad of a game in Wisconsin
probably is comparably compensated.
Speaker 5 (23:34):
But at any event, I see your point.
Speaker 6 (23:37):
I think he's just he's just trying to deal in cold,
hard facts. It can be a little off putting, but
on the other hand, it's you know, it can be refreshing,
you know, because he's because he's speaking reality.
Speaker 1 (23:49):
Yeah, And I didn't have a b And that's why
I didn't have a big problem with I was just like, ah,
that's kind of interesting that that's how that's how he
phrased it, and then about his future. He's gonna be
at Washington next year, and then he says, I hope
to have a tenure at a place where people can
look back and say that was a hell of a run.
And that to me can be seen in two ways.
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I mean, you can say, you can say, hey, he
really wants to be somewhere for a long period of time.
He doesn't always want to be two years and gone,
two years and gone, two years and gone like he
has been his entire career. He wants to be someplace
for a long period of time. But I didn't hear
him say Seattle in that sentence. I didn't hear him
(24:29):
say the University of Washington in that sentence, And I
think that would have been a perfect time for him
to add that point.
Speaker 4 (24:36):
I can't.
Speaker 6 (24:38):
It startles me how people can't think through and parse
the words that coaches say. And now, I granted they're
in a tough position, but back in what October or whatever,
that conference, he never expresses commitment, even though that was
the headline he said. He spoke for a minute and
forty two seconds, and he's basically, if you had to
(24:58):
sum it up in three seconds, a minute and forty two,
you'd say Jetfish loves Washington or likes Washington, doesn't say
anything about commitment. And then in this interview you guys
had two days ago when he says the rumors didn't
come from me.
Speaker 5 (25:12):
Of course they didn't. They never have, they never have.
Speaker 6 (25:15):
It was Nick Saban, They never came from him, Jim,
you know Brian Kelly when he left, So you don't
expect the rumors to come. And then a tenure at
a place. Look, he's being cantid. He'd like there to
be a place where the ten years out of place.
I mean, you know, but he's not saying whether it's Washington,
(25:39):
and so I just take nothing out of it.
Speaker 5 (25:41):
I think he's saying what he needs to say.
Speaker 6 (25:44):
But as far as taking any comfort about oh, the
rumors didn't come for me, Oh, that tells me nothing.
What you said six weeks ago tells me nothing. And
by the way, I don't hold that against you, because
coaches have to answer it the question how you did,
how you did?
Speaker 5 (25:58):
What I'm actually.
Speaker 6 (26:00):
Expressing is explain to me how you can glean anything
from those comments. I don't think you can, because because
the real question would be are you interested? In other jobs.
My son plays at Florida for the last two years,
got to know people there. I am not reporting anything
(26:20):
because I don't know. But there are people, not just kids,
but adults in that program who are of the belief
that Jed had conversations with Florida and that shouldn't surprise anybody. Again,
I don't know enough to I'm not submitting any reports.
The real question for whether it's not Jed whether you
love Washington, it's if somebody offered you how many schools
(26:45):
or teams in the NFL, right, But let's just restrict
it to school. How many schools would you leave Washington
for if if you had a better contract, even a
dollar more? And nobody can ask them that he shouldn't
answer it. Only he knows and the people that he's
close to if he's divulge that. But as far as
(27:07):
gleaning anything out of comments, I think it's a fool's Errand.
Speaker 2 (27:11):
I like Jed Fish.
Speaker 1 (27:13):
I think he's leading the program in the right direction.
I certainly think this recruiting class is exceptional. And that's
you know, partially on him, partially on the finances that
the Huskies have, but really on him right now, and
I really have no super tangible complaints other than nitpicky
here on play calling in there, and we can go
into that a little bit more. It's if his coaching
(27:36):
resume said Weaber State head coach for ten years and
Colorado head coach for seven years, and he then came
to the University of Washington, I'd be thrilled, and I
think we'd have a guy for a decade plus. He is,
but he is saddled by the history of his constantly
(27:58):
jumping to other jobs. On one hand, I think that's
unfair because until until now, he's never had a top
twenty coaching job in America.
Speaker 2 (28:06):
But on the other hand.
Speaker 1 (28:07):
I think it is fair because there's been no concrete
indication that he or his family want to stay here
for a decade plus. And I think Husky Nation deserves
to have a football coach that wants to be in
Seattle for a decade plus.
Speaker 2 (28:20):
I thought we had it a couple of years ago
in Kaitlin de Boor.
Speaker 1 (28:22):
And maybe there's nobody that exists in America in today's
college football environment.
Speaker 2 (28:29):
Maybe there's no person.
Speaker 1 (28:31):
That exists that will stay at a place for ten
plus years.
Speaker 2 (28:36):
Maybe that's just the facts of the matter,
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